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Speaker 5 (03:19):
I have a quick question. Sure, the president from Syria
is going to be sitting in the White House today.
What are you thinking about that?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I think it's terrible.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
President Siria a Jelani is a former ISIS member. He
was backed up to Aubakhar back daddy. He he may
be communicating with other leaders in this nation. He may
be calling certain newly elected mayors in New York City
and talking to them, which is really really when that's
(03:53):
not known, it's really damaging. That's I don't trust the
Syrian president. I believe that we have multiple it may
not multiple like numerous. I don't want cells terrast cells,
whether they're Al Qaeda, whether they are a mixture of different,
(04:17):
you know, different groups. And I believe that president is serious,
probably in the middle of it. And we don't know
that because when I say we as a nation, because
our intel services are so corrupted and so diminished. But
I would be very shocked if we make it the
(04:38):
next sixty days without an attack, that makes nine to
eleven look like a child's tea party. And I don't
and I don't say that lightly. So yeah, it's not
It's a time we need to be doing a lot
of praying, and it needs to be accountability. I wouldn't
let the love fest with Algielani is a fool's errand
but I don't blame the president because the president is
(05:01):
getting information from his DCI, Director of Central Intelligence and
Director of Essential Intelligence. While he may play golf with
the president doesn't have the president or the country's best
interest because I believe he's totally controlled by I don't know, say,
former Director of Central Intelligence. And we're getting ready to
(05:22):
head down a dark path in this nation, and you know,
people are upset because corpus the leadership's bad. Well, the
nation could head down that path through not because of
President Trump, but because of some people that are not serving.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Him well around him.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
I think I had this discussion with my brother this weekend.
I think we also have to go back to the
fact that we have the facts that mom Dommy got
elected overwhelmingly by children. It's eighteen too. Let's say forty
(06:02):
tells me that we have two generations that do not
know the history of this the real history of this country.
That they don't know civics, they don't know government, they
don't understand uh, economic policy.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
No, it was by design, this is no.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
I know this is all by design. But it doesn't
bode well. And I told my brother, I said, you
and I aren't going to live it. We'll live it
for a short time if but our kids are going
to live the hell whole that this country will become.
Our kids and our kids' kids, our grandkids, they'll live it.
(06:50):
They're going to turn into what a little great Britain
with no go zones. And you know, all.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
These streets done Britain. It's not going to recover.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
So you so now we're down the walking down the steate.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
We're we're on the edge we have we're going to
be able to make a choice. We're gonna have choices
in nation. We you and I grew up and arguably
the greatest time of prosperity, and that was the eighties
and the nineties.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
It was a great prosperity.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
But the problem was during that prosperity, the big evangelical
church writ large decided that they would go from an
ascendant God to we just need to keep more tendance
and we need more butts in the seat instead of
calling sin by a first name. So what they did
(07:42):
is they they traded truth for tolerance, and they said,
you know, we is just it's all about love. It's
all about you know, acceptance. And while God is very loving,
very accepting, he also hates sin. And and we stopped
talking about it as a church. And when we stopped
(08:03):
talking about it as a church, the church became weak.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
It became kind of warm.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
And as it says in Revelation, I think it was
a church of late to see the Lord talks about
spitting them out.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
They're warm. They're neither cold nor hot. They're warm.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I spit them out and What happens is when you
have this moral relativism where you no longer call bad bad.
You say, well, it's maybe not the truth, but it's
your truth, so I'm just going to go with it.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
And when you have that on top.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Of insidious march through the institutions that started in the
nineteen thirties, dumbing down education, turning strong institutions into indoctrination.
We went from education to indoctrination in just the way
you started it, erasing history. We no longer hold up
the great heroes of the past, you know, George Washington,
(09:02):
Thomas Jefferson, Gosh, there are just so many great true heroes,
people that did amazing feats of courage to further our nation.
We allowed a radical left to make them out of
their slave owners. They tried to define them by something
that was the culture at the time. It wasn't that
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they were like some vicious, evil slave owner. It's just
that's the culture at the time. Same way, you know,
you have to look at the time in which they lived.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
They didn't look at their.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Personal characteristics, their traits, their honor. These guys pledged their honor,
their fortune, their fortunes is their honor.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
And everything.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Their lives are fortune and their sacred honor to you know,
grow this nation. They don't talk about how less than
three percent fought in the Revolutionary war to build this nation.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
They don't talk about that. They talk about the evils.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
But what they can't square, the circle they can't square,
is that why are people coming from socialists and communist
nations on rafts to the US. Why do they want
to come here? I mean, they're not coming here because
of socialism or communism. They're coming here because of opportunity.
And so what New York is going to learn is
(10:16):
that socialism or communism does not provide opportunity. It provides
slavery because anything the government gives you, the government can
take away from you and people. If you want to
understand just a brief glimpse into what that looks like,
look at Obamacare and where we are right now healthcare.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I mean, it's healthcare.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
And I said this back when Obama I went to
DC for the Obamacare rally, when back when Mark Levin
spoke there and a lot of other guys, and they
were on point. They were like, look, we can't do this.
When they voted for Obamacare, what they did, and the
American people just fell in to it is they subsidized
(11:03):
insurance companies. So they said, look, our insurance is cheaper
because of this bill. No, your taxes went up, your
deficit went up, the quality of care went to the basement.
And so now what's happening is they're not subsidizing to
the same degree the insurance companies.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
So premiums a rising. You know the whole.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
If you like your doctor, you can keep it. Your
health care will not go up one dime. They were
all lies. They weren't his truth. They were lies. And
then the American people is like a battered girlfriend or wife.
They keep going back to the same guy that beats
the living.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Staff out of them. Yeah, and so.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
You see that in the Democrat Party, which is no
longer the Democrat Party of my grandfather, is the Democrat
Party of these radical socialists. And so you asked me
about New York. This is a long way around to
get to there. New York is going to live its consequences.
It's going to become a hellhole. Companies are already leaving,
people are going to rent. Control is going to happen.
(12:02):
It's gonna turn into Gotham city. It's gonna look like
a Batman novel, and it's going to do what pretty
much no one paid attention to the Canary in the mine,
and that was Michigan. What happened in Detroit when Detroit
elected all these good idea.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Fairies and just ran it in the ground. And so.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
You're going to see a lot of consequences. You're you're
going to see their red states become stronger or red
states become weaker if the politicians try to bring in
all these other people and think they're going to change it.
Texas has been pretty resistant to that on the most part.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
We have.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
I'm very worried about Texas. I'm well, I mean, you know, look,
you've got san Antonio, san Antonio Texas literally telling Greg
Abbott go pound sand We're not getting rid of our
pride painted streets in our black lives. We're not san
Antonio Texas.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Now here's the insidious truth. This is not organic. So
where are they getting the money.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
To do this? Well, yeah, oh, you've Antonio.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
You've got Houston, You've got Dallas, you've got Austin, you've
got San Antonio. Now, I mean, what's going to happen?
We talked. I talked about this this weekend with my brother.
Texas is like, we're you already see Houston and Austin
voting all Democrat. Dallas is going to be next, San
Antonio is going to be next, and then the rest
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of us are going to get screwed.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Well it's a good chance.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
But if people look, you were living the consequences when
they say, you know, elections have consequences. What the American
people don't understand are the consequences we're living right now.
We're living the consequences of eight years of Obama in
four years of Biden.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
How what does that look like?
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Well, when President Obama came in his first term, he
brought John Brennan into the National counter Terrorism Center.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
He couldn't get him in through Congress at the time.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Because he had a just too crazy pass voting for
Gus Hall for communists. As President, Obama didn't have enough
stroke to get him through confirmation in the CIA, but
he put him in the intelligence community and from that
moment on, Brennan essentially controlled the promotion process throughout ice
what we call the intelligence community for those eight years.
(14:27):
He had a hidden hand behind Trump. When Trump was
there Trump didn't know it, but Brennan was still working
behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
That's how you got Russia Gate.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
That's how you got Comy and everyone working against him,
Crossfire hurricane.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Now you have, and then he had four years of Biden.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
So twelve years hard, four years soft of controlling all
the promotions inside the intelligence community. Now, for all your
listeners that are listening, that's a kind of a double
play on there for everyone this actually paying attention. The
intelligence community has black budgets. The intelligence community has money
(15:08):
that they can get to almost in an unlimited fashion
and dole it out accordingly.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
The intelligence community.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Has access to the tools of their tradecraft and state,
which is spying. And what they did is they turned
the nssay, they turned a lot of the major abilities
of the intelligence community in on itself on this country. Now,
when you control promotions, it means you got all the
(15:34):
senior people to leave that would not bow to you.
My understanding is Brennan had people sign a letter of
commitment to him, not the agency to him. People signed
a letter of support to him. It's how you get
fifty one signers on the Biden laptop that just lied
through their teeth and we kind.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Of gaff it off and laugh it off, But it's
not that way.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
These guys control a lot of the banking, the social media,
they controlled the mainstream media. They control a relationship with
their counterparts in other countries which they can have problems
happen or not have problems happen. They have worked their
people into the border, patrol, into ice, into all areas
(16:21):
of government. That's why you're running these trillion dollar deficits.
Why is this money disappearing? Why is there no accountability?
Those just scraped the tiniest edge to show that there
was mass corruption. You don't have to look at some
random country in Africa, you just have to look here.
(16:44):
So when you have that, and then you have politicians
with all the moral courage of a cheese stick as
far as you know, voting their principles. Now they vote
for who principally suppor courts them. And that's across the
board for most of them. Yeah, and so what you
(17:05):
have is you have the perfect the perfect storm. Now,
we had an open border during Biden, twelve million people
came across.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Those are our best estimates.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
And millions of those we don't know who they were
based on the chatter that we're seeing in the intelligence
community that unfortunately, I don't.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Believe it's being even reported to the president.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
You have hundreds of cells of terrorists that are coordinated.
You have cartel logistics lines, you have Cuba, Venezuela, Iran,
all working very closely together.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
You know, the enemy of my enemy is my friend
kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
And you have an intelligence community with some really good
people in it, but have never had the high up
level access and experience to fight a a well developed
rear guard insurgency inside this country is what we have
(18:07):
going on right now. You have an insurgency in the government.
We call it the deep state, call whatever you want.
It's being led by John Brennan. Don't kid yourself. And
this is a question that everyone should be asking themselves.
We're talking about, Well, they're going to indict Brennan on
Russigate and they may have already done it. You know
what he did back trying to undermine President Trump back
(18:28):
in twenty sixteen seventeen. That's all good and fine, it's
not what he did back then. Ask yourself this, what
are they doing now? Yeah, these people are still out there.
They're not stopping the ratchet only goes in one direction.
For the radical communist left, it only goes in one direction.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
And what are they doing now?
Speaker 3 (18:50):
And I don't believe President Trump has the right people
around him giving him the right information. I think I'm
not saying they're bad people, they're not the right people.
They want to do the right thing, but they don't
have the right information. And if you don't have the
right information, how do you fight it?
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Right?
Speaker 3 (19:06):
I mean, information is keen And if they're too afraid
the president they might tell the president something wrong, they
prevent people from telling the president something that is right.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
So do you think you know that we have a
more of a cold war problem now than we ever have?
I mean, I don't know how to well, how to
say it?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
You have a civil war problem.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
We're being infiltrated unlike we were before.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Well, the problem is it's a what do you I mean,
it's it's it's an infiltration, but it's a it's an
invited infiltration.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
It's being assisted by there's.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
When you and I kind of alluded to this in
the past, when the church had the breakdown in the
eighties and nineties and stop having that strong moral stance
it's it's the same thing in government. We know because
it's been shown without question that the State Department has
been involved in human trafficking people and Department of Homeland
(20:10):
Security have been involved in human trafficking. We know that
the Border patrol guys down on the border, a lot
of those are taking money from the cartels. And you know,
and I understand that's it's it's it's a difficult problem.
That's it's something I'm thankful I don't have to deal
with where you know, they're they basically tell them like
we're gonna shoot.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
You, give you money, or kill your family, you know.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
And there's no there's no consistency over time building trust
inside the major institutions because you have these sea schedule hoppers,
these political appointees, and so you have this amorphous deep
state that has been formed under strong, corrupt leadership of
John Brennan, of James Comy, of other people that you
(20:54):
wouldn't recognize their names. You might, you know, Victoria Newland,
whom a abd Michelle Florinoy. These people are working together
to undermine the United States of America. And here's the thing.
It's so insidious and it's so hard to believe that
you everyone's oh, it's a conspiracy theory. It's a conspiracy theory. Now,
(21:17):
if people understood history, they would understand that conspiracy theory.
That whole term came from the CIA. It was invented
by the CIA to throw people off understanding actual events.
But again, so you have to have courage of conviction
and leadership at all levels. You know, we've had whistleblowers
come out and then get pillared.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
You don't.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
You have congressmen that are more concerned about being reelected
than concerned about finding and digging out the truth. And
so what happens is you provide this environment of moral
relativism and no country, nation, or society has ever survived
(22:02):
in that. We always talk about Rome falling apart, but
the United States think about this. We have the greatest
nation in the world, not but because of our founding.
It is because of our founding, but it's also because
look at what we have. We have the most defendable
borders of any country in the world. We have the
most interconnected waterways, the most natural resources, we have everything.
(22:26):
Yet we struggle as a nation with massive deficits, with shortages.
Why these are man to steal something from the environmentalists.
These are man made problems designed to subjugate a society.
So when you have when you do that, then you
(22:46):
set yourself up for the rise of radical Islamism. You know,
where I'm not saying all people that are or Muslim
are bad. Some of my dearest friends, you know, I
stay at their homes, but they don't even like radicals.
But you have radicals here. You have a lot of
people that are working to undermine our nation. And the
(23:06):
real insidious thing is you have the major teaching institutions
telling people America is not great, nor is she good,
and that's just a lie.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
That is so. And so when you have.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
People that are with that more relativism where you're you're
transing young kids. We could go into the COVID thing
where you gave out that vaccine, which we know is
just horrific and is now there's no question, yet they're
still pushing it at all the major pharmacies and things
like that. When you have a medical system that is
they're not paying doctors, the insurance companies are deliberately slow
(23:40):
walking doctors and cratering the system. When you have all
of these things happening. A society will not survive unless
someone stands up and shows true strength. And President Trump,
I know, wants to do the right thing and will
do the right thing. But again, if he's not, if
they can keep him from getting the right information, then
(24:01):
they can keep him from leading.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
The nation in the right direction. And that's my concern
right now.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
So one of my other questions this weekend of my
brothers was who's next? Like, you look at the elections,
and I get they were in blue states, right, Morks, Okay,
But Trump endorsed some of those some of those people.
(24:29):
Trump does not have a great record on endorsement, But
Trump as a candidate is consistently elected, which defies like, right,
don't you think it defies?
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Well, some of those places that the wrong candidate was elected,
there were so many just think pulling stations shut down.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
I mean there were and again, but.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
This is my question, We're going to ask, So who's next?
Who's next? Because if Trump Trump Trump only has these
four years? J D, is he? I don't think so.
I like JD. Don't get me wrong, I like these people, JD.
I don't see there is no Trump. Trump is a
generational president. That's what scares you. Does that scare you, guys?
Speaker 3 (25:16):
It doesn't well, it's it doesn't scare me. But here's
the thing. Trump has a generation I believe annoying. I mean,
the same thing you want three He's there for a reason.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
Yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
But at the same time, I've met with j D.
He's a good guy, wants to do the right thing.
I'll tell you who's impressed me. And I used to
not be a fan, but I will tell you I'm
impressed right now.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Marco Rubio.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Oh my god, that's what I said.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
I will tell you I have never I've seen Marco
grow as a statesman. I've seen him, I've seen him mature.
And I'll just tell you I think if I were
to do a presidency, I would hear me, I would
Rubio vance. Yeah, and then you get Vance a few
more years to step in to understand the system. But
(26:11):
I think Rubio there's something about him. I mean, there's
a thing. This is what I told my brother this weekend.
I said, you look at Marco Rubio behind Trump everywhere.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
He is a sponge. He is soaking it all in.
He's learning, he's understanding, he's getting it. He's keeping his
mouth shut unless he needs to be spoken, unless he
needs to talk, and he is. You can see it
all over his face.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah, I agree with you. I mean, that's that's my
personal opinion.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
That's my opinion. You can see it.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
You can see there's a there's a level of growth
and maturity. And Marco understands the Senate. Yes, he's been
a let me tell you something, he's been an amazing secretarist,
not a good word, amazing And and and he's you know,
I I and and this is not a slam on JD.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
JD's a brilliant guy.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
And you know, my friend Charlie Kirk loved JD and
really promoted pushed him. But here's the thing, No one's
going to be successful unless we start getting people that
have their allegiance to truth, to God and integrity before
(27:30):
their allegiance to party and the crap that goes on
in DC. And I don't I mean, I never would
say this before. I think we'll make it as a nation.
But I'm not one hundred percent on that. I agree
with you, knowing what I know right now.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
So you have a question in Morgan, No, you're just
listening to taking ruby. I'm listening and.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Well, the thing is, the thing is we have do
you think we're going to have?
Speaker 5 (27:58):
Because my brother said it's time for the civil war. Okay,
it's time. Do you I mean, do you?
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I pray we don't. Look.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Look, I've been in war and there's nothing good about it.
It's not romantic, it's not fun.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
He's talking about picking up guns. He's talking about well,
we're already in a cold civil war. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
But you have groups out there, some very strong militia
groups that you know, they see the way the country's going.
I'm not a member of any of these militia groups,
and I don't support fracturing this nation.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
Right, That's what I said.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Well, the problem is this.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
When you have your elected officials that are intentionally beating
on the American people twenty four to seven. Look, let's
take the shutdown. We've had shutdowns before by Democrats. When
the Democrats shut down, you notice how we don't have
any aviation problems. The problems that you're seeing are deep
state push problems. They are problems that they go to
(28:59):
who have where they want and they say, okay, we're
going to cut this, this and this We're going to
make it hurt for people. They want to make you
hurt so that they get their way. We can't keep
funding Obamacare.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
You can't. No, it was not You.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Should have never worked in the It wasn't designed to work.
It was designed to fail and create the nation. So
you're what we're experiencing, those of us that saw this
in two thousand and eight to today, twenty two years later.
What you're seeing are consequences of people not paying attention
to what a lot of us saw were happening. What
(29:33):
you're seeing right now and what you're going to see
over the next ten to twenty years are the consequences
of the vaccines and of the way we treated COVID.
It's people are either going to wake up or they're not.
And again I go back to faith. When you have
people preaching truth, it takes a supernatural understanding of the
world through a moral lens that God gives you to
(29:57):
understand truth. You have to be honest with yourself because
you have we have so much confirmational bias because people
want this to be true. They I mean, look at
all these people out on social media about the EBT cards.
You have these people holding a fourteen hundred dollars phone.
They're nails done, tattoos, and these women that weigh driving
(30:18):
an escalade, driving an escalade, weighing about two hundred and
eighty pounds, five foot six, going I'm starving, they're taking
my I mean, come on, we are our poor people
live better than eighty percent of the people in the world,
and no one even understands that because again, no one's
paying attention at the actual facts.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
I was sitting in Kentucky yesterday. We were at a
barbecue place for brunch with my family, and I guess
this barbecue place has a kitchen pantry that poor people
can come into and get canned goods and whatever it was.
(30:59):
It was shoved in a corner, and this family walked
in and you literally described the wife, but then the
little boy was even larger than the wife. And they
(31:19):
were in that pantry, which was no bigger than maybe
two of these closets here that it was tiny, and
they just I don't know how many bags of stuff
they took out of that pantry, and I was like, really, really, well, you.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Know, Debbie's here's my take on it.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
But they're the poor. They're poor.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Now, I will tell you the way we've done food.
I mean, growing up, you didn't see a lot of
people overweight. No, I think that I have a lot
of people that come into my practice that are overweight
that and I'll sit down and go over what they're eating,
and they're not eating large amounts. I believe it's the food.
I believe it's the seed oils. I believe it's the
(32:05):
thing it's designed to. It's it's making people bigger than
they should be. And you know, I've our practice, you know,
my practice in plastic surgery. We have a wellness bin
on it too, because I want people not only to
lose weight or when we do li like bo or
Tommy Tucks or whatever, but we want them to keep
it off. And so we're working with them on understanding
(32:26):
the entire thing. And I've gone down this rabbit hole
because now that I'm older, you know, my joints can
hurt things like that. But I've never been overweight or big.
But I caught myself a few years ago, especially during COVID,
going well, I'm gaining weight, why I'm not eating a lot?
But it wasn't It wasn't how much I was eating.
Was what I was eating right, And so I've really
(32:48):
been studying this, looking at it, and I think there's
better ways to live. The mere fact that we push
people into poor foods. A lot of our food ingredients
are or outlawed in Europe. Yeah, And I like what
what Robert Kennedy's doing. I think he's doing a good
job with it, is trying to get a handle on
all this. But what you see, if you're going to
(33:10):
be honest with yourself, and if you were from another
planet and you came and you looked at the United
States and you got to see the entire history in this,
you would see that as government got bigger, people got
less healthy, poor, more enslaved. I mean, you don't the
taxes now are I mean we were billed over a
(33:33):
tax on tea. Now we're taxed on the money we make,
the money, we spend, the money, we save, the money,
we inherit, the money you.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Have when you die.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
We're taxed on the gasoline we put in our car.
And then we're taxed on the roads we're driving on
that have already been paid for in our taxes. And
then if you own anything, you're paying property taxes, so
you really own nothing.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
And especially and this is the bug.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
In my bonnet down here in Nuez's County is our
property taxes are insane. Oh yeah, they're insane. It's because
of poor governance. And until people start rising up and saying,
you know what, we're not gonna do this anymore. I
think Warren Buffett had it best. He said, you know,
as soon as the deficit, as soon as the deficent
rises above two percent or something three percent, he said,
(34:20):
then you just you you you. Everyone that's in Congress
can't run again. I mean as soon as if they
have bad outcomes, they can't run again. Someone else has
to run. I mean, that would stop it. There's no consequences.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
So true.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
So the Pavlovian response in Washington, d C. Is to
what the lobbyist wants, and you'll get money and then
will hire the public relations people to make your constituents
think you're doing the right thing when you're clearly not.
Speaker 5 (34:48):
Yeah, that's it. Larry Larden, Texadent. It will be like Michigan.
Wayne County votes Democrat carries the whole state when the
rest of the state votes Republican. That's what makes you
elect college so important. And having been born in Wayne County,
grown up in Wayne County. All my people are from
(35:09):
Wayne County. Well, let me tell you something I've seen Texans.
Then we're Texans, and Texans can come back. But we
have to start being responsible. We have to start holding
people accountable. Here's the thing we don't do anymore. We
don't publicly shame anybody. That's so true.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
I mean, I think that if someone does a bonehead thing,
you start buying billboards and putting it up everywhere they
and their family drive.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Hey, you want that, you want the spotlight, We'll give
you the spotlight. Do the right thing. If you don't
do the right thing, we're going to bring it home.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
I think though, I think Republicans shame their own. I
don't think Democrats shame any p Plain John corn into me.
What what has John Cornan done morally?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
It's not morally. What has he done right?
Speaker 5 (35:59):
Well, I'll tell you what I think John Cornyn is done,
probably in his mind right is he's played the game
so that he is in leadership. Which it's a game, Keith,
it is a game, but it's a game.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
And he's supported John when he first ran. But I've
seen him work hand in hand with Cocaine Mitch. I've
seen him go along with he's.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
By the way, Cocaine Mitch is gone.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
He is.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
And you know who's running against it, who's running for
that seat? Because I was just in Kentucky, Andy Barr,
who was a congressman from I think the sixth district,
who was a friend of ours, like Blake. Andy's a
good guy. Trump's do an ads for him good because
I was watching. Here's the thing is I look at people,
so I think that's going to change.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
I guess is what I look.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
If John does the right thing, I'll be the biggest
fan of John. But I want to see you do
the right thing. He did something, he went against the
Second Amendment. Why and they did a lot of the
real sketchy stuff. But again, if they do the right thing,
I'll applaud them. If they don't, I won't. I would
just tell your listeners this, and I'm you can take
(37:14):
this for what it's worth. We're not in any other
time in the history of our nation like we are
right now. This is not the eighties, this is not
the nineties, is not even the early two thousands. We
are on the precipice. And I believe that we're going
to have an absolute terrible event before the end of
(37:40):
the year. I agree, and I pray we don't. I
pray that it's stopped. But if we continue along the
way we are, I don't see how we don't, and
it's going to shake the conscience of the American people.
Have said this on your show before. My boss in
the intelligence world was Dewey Clericge and you don't look
at what the press says about him, but look at
(38:01):
what he actually did for the country, which was amazing
do He was a deputy director of Operations and he
was a special assistant to the special assistant to the
President when Bill Casey was at the CIA. And Dewey
told me this. He said, I have two rules that
you have to operate by. Number one, never do anything
(38:22):
that you know is morally unconstable that you can't live with.
He goes, it's nothing worth that. You just don't do it,
you know, just walk away.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
He said.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
The second rule is never do anything that not if
but when it is known, becomes known by the American public,
it would shock the conscience of the nation. And he paused,
and he looked at me, and he said the nation
takes a lot to shock him.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
But if it does.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
That, he said, you don't know what's going to happen
after that, and I will tell you this with what
I know, and that could happen. If it happens, it
will shock the conscience of this.
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Speaker 5 (03:19):
I have a quick question. Sure, the president from Syria
is going to be sitting in the White House today.
What are you thinking about that?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I think it's terrible.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
President Siria a Jelani is a former ISIS member. He
was backed up to Aubakhar back daddy. He he may
be communicating with other leaders in this nation. He may
be calling certain newly elected mayors in New York City
and talking to them, which is really really when that's
(03:53):
not known, it's really damaging. That's I don't trust the
Syrian president. I believe that we have multiple it may
not multiple like numerous. I don't want cells terrast cells,
whether they're Al Qaeda, whether they are a mixture of different,
(04:17):
you know, different groups. And I believe that president is serious,
probably in the middle of it. And we don't know
that because when I say we as a nation, because
our intel services are so corrupted and so diminished. But
I would be very shocked if we make it the
(04:38):
next sixty days without an attack, that makes nine to
eleven look like a child's tea party. And I don't
and I don't say that lightly. So yeah, it's not
It's a time we need to be doing a lot
of praying, and it needs to be accountability. I wouldn't
let the love fest with Algielani is a fool's errand
but I don't blame the president because the president is
(05:01):
getting information from his DCI, Director of Central Intelligence and
Director of Essential Intelligence. While he may play golf with
the president doesn't have the president or the country's best
interest because I believe he's totally controlled by I don't know, say,
former Director of Central Intelligence. And we're getting ready to
(05:22):
head down a dark path in this nation, and you know,
people are upset because corpus the leadership's bad. Well, the
nation could head down that path through not because of
President Trump, but because of some people that are not serving.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Him well around him.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
I think I had this discussion with my brother this weekend.
I think we also have to go back to the
fact that we have the facts that mom Dommy got
elected overwhelmingly by children. It's eighteen too. Let's say forty
(06:02):
tells me that we have two generations that do not
know the history of this the real history of this country.
That they don't know civics, they don't know government, they
don't understand uh, economic policy.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
No, it was by design, this is no.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
I know this is all by design. But it doesn't
bode well. And I told my brother, I said, you
and I aren't going to live it. We'll live it
for a short time if but our kids are going
to live the hell whole that this country will become.
Our kids and our kids' kids, our grandkids, they'll live it.
(06:50):
They're going to turn into what a little great Britain
with no go zones. And you know, all.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
These streets done Britain. It's not going to recover.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
So you so now we're down the walking down the steate.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
We're we're on the edge we have we're going to
be able to make a choice. We're gonna have choices
in nation. We you and I grew up and arguably
the greatest time of prosperity, and that was the eighties
and the nineties.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
It was a great prosperity.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
But the problem was during that prosperity, the big evangelical
church writ large decided that they would go from an
ascendant God to we just need to keep more tendance
and we need more butts in the seat instead of
calling sin by a first name. So what they did
(07:42):
is they they traded truth for tolerance, and they said,
you know, we is just it's all about love. It's
all about you know, acceptance. And while God is very loving,
very accepting, he also hates sin. And and we stopped
talking about it as a church. And when we stopped
(08:03):
talking about it as a church, the church became weak.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
It became kind of warm.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
And as it says in Revelation, I think it was
a church of late to see the Lord talks about
spitting them out.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
They're warm. They're neither cold nor hot. They're warm.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I spit them out and What happens is when you
have this moral relativism where you no longer call bad bad.
You say, well, it's maybe not the truth, but it's
your truth, so I'm just going to go with it.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
And when you have that on top.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Of insidious march through the institutions that started in the
nineteen thirties, dumbing down education, turning strong institutions into indoctrination.
We went from education to indoctrination in just the way
you started it, erasing history. We no longer hold up
the great heroes of the past, you know, George Washington,
(09:02):
Thomas Jefferson, Gosh, there are just so many great true heroes,
people that did amazing feats of courage to further our nation.
We allowed a radical left to make them out of
their slave owners. They tried to define them by something
that was the culture at the time. It wasn't that
(09:24):
they were like some vicious, evil slave owner. It's just
that's the culture at the time. Same way, you know,
you have to look at the time in which they lived.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
They didn't look at their.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Personal characteristics, their traits, their honor. These guys pledged their honor,
their fortune, their fortunes is their honor.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
And everything.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Their lives are fortune and their sacred honor to you know,
grow this nation. They don't talk about how less than
three percent fought in the Revolutionary war to build this nation.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
They don't talk about that. They talk about the evils.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
But what they can't square, the circle they can't square,
is that why are people coming from socialists and communist
nations on rafts to the US. Why do they want
to come here? I mean, they're not coming here because
of socialism or communism. They're coming here because of opportunity.
And so what New York is going to learn is
(10:16):
that socialism or communism does not provide opportunity. It provides
slavery because anything the government gives you, the government can
take away from you and people. If you want to
understand just a brief glimpse into what that looks like,
look at Obamacare and where we are right now healthcare.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I mean, it's healthcare.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
And I said this back when Obama I went to
DC for the Obamacare rally, when back when Mark Levin
spoke there and a lot of other guys, and they
were on point. They were like, look, we can't do this.
When they voted for Obamacare, what they did, and the
American people just fell in to it is they subsidized
(11:03):
insurance companies. So they said, look, our insurance is cheaper
because of this bill. No, your taxes went up, your
deficit went up, the quality of care went to the basement.
And so now what's happening is they're not subsidizing to
the same degree the insurance companies.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
So premiums a rising. You know the whole.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
If you like your doctor, you can keep it. Your
health care will not go up one dime. They were
all lies. They weren't his truth. They were lies. And
then the American people is like a battered girlfriend or wife.
They keep going back to the same guy that beats
the living.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Staff out of them. Yeah, and so.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
You see that in the Democrat Party, which is no
longer the Democrat Party of my grandfather, is the Democrat
Party of these radical socialists. And so you asked me
about New York. This is a long way around to
get to there. New York is going to live its consequences.
It's going to become a hellhole. Companies are already leaving,
people are going to rent. Control is going to happen.
(12:02):
It's gonna turn into Gotham city. It's gonna look like
a Batman novel, and it's going to do what pretty
much no one paid attention to the Canary in the mine,
and that was Michigan. What happened in Detroit when Detroit
elected all these good idea.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Fairies and just ran it in the ground. And so.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
You're going to see a lot of consequences. You're you're
going to see their red states become stronger or red
states become weaker if the politicians try to bring in
all these other people and think they're going to change it.
Texas has been pretty resistant to that on the most part.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
We have.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
I'm very worried about Texas. I'm well, I mean, you know, look,
you've got san Antonio, san Antonio Texas literally telling Greg
Abbott go pound sand We're not getting rid of our
pride painted streets in our black lives. We're not san
Antonio Texas.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Now here's the insidious truth. This is not organic. So
where are they getting the money.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
To do this? Well, yeah, oh, you've Antonio.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
You've got Houston, You've got Dallas, you've got Austin, you've
got San Antonio. Now, I mean, what's going to happen?
We talked. I talked about this this weekend with my brother.
Texas is like, we're you already see Houston and Austin
voting all Democrat. Dallas is going to be next, San
Antonio is going to be next, and then the rest
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of us are going to get screwed.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Well it's a good chance.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
But if people look, you were living the consequences when
they say, you know, elections have consequences. What the American
people don't understand are the consequences we're living right now.
We're living the consequences of eight years of Obama in
four years of Biden.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
How what does that look like?
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Well, when President Obama came in his first term, he
brought John Brennan into the National counter Terrorism Center.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
He couldn't get him in through Congress at the time.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Because he had a just too crazy pass voting for
Gus Hall for communists. As President, Obama didn't have enough
stroke to get him through confirmation in the CIA, but
he put him in the intelligence community and from that
moment on, Brennan essentially controlled the promotion process throughout ice
what we call the intelligence community for those eight years.
(14:27):
He had a hidden hand behind Trump. When Trump was
there Trump didn't know it, but Brennan was still working
behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
That's how you got Russia Gate.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
That's how you got Comy and everyone working against him,
Crossfire hurricane.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Now you have, and then he had four years of Biden.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
So twelve years hard, four years soft of controlling all
the promotions inside the intelligence community. Now, for all your
listeners that are listening, that's a kind of a double
play on there for everyone this actually paying attention. The
intelligence community has black budgets. The intelligence community has money
(15:08):
that they can get to almost in an unlimited fashion
and dole it out accordingly.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
The intelligence community.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Has access to the tools of their tradecraft and state,
which is spying. And what they did is they turned
the nssay, they turned a lot of the major abilities
of the intelligence community in on itself on this country. Now,
when you control promotions, it means you got all the
(15:34):
senior people to leave that would not bow to you.
My understanding is Brennan had people sign a letter of
commitment to him, not the agency to him. People signed
a letter of support to him. It's how you get
fifty one signers on the Biden laptop that just lied
through their teeth and we kind.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Of gaff it off and laugh it off, But it's
not that way.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
These guys control a lot of the banking, the social media,
they controlled the mainstream media. They control a relationship with
their counterparts in other countries which they can have problems
happen or not have problems happen. They have worked their
people into the border, patrol, into ice, into all areas
(16:21):
of government. That's why you're running these trillion dollar deficits.
Why is this money disappearing? Why is there no accountability?
Those just scraped the tiniest edge to show that there
was mass corruption. You don't have to look at some
random country in Africa, you just have to look here.
(16:44):
So when you have that, and then you have politicians
with all the moral courage of a cheese stick as
far as you know, voting their principles. Now they vote
for who principally suppor courts them. And that's across the
board for most of them. Yeah, and so what you
(17:05):
have is you have the perfect the perfect storm. Now,
we had an open border during Biden, twelve million people
came across.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Those are our best estimates.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
And millions of those we don't know who they were
based on the chatter that we're seeing in the intelligence
community that unfortunately, I don't.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Believe it's being even reported to the president.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
You have hundreds of cells of terrorists that are coordinated.
You have cartel logistics lines, you have Cuba, Venezuela, Iran,
all working very closely together.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
You know, the enemy of my enemy is my friend
kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
And you have an intelligence community with some really good
people in it, but have never had the high up
level access and experience to fight a a well developed
rear guard insurgency inside this country is what we have
(18:07):
going on right now. You have an insurgency in the government.
We call it the deep state, call whatever you want.
It's being led by John Brennan. Don't kid yourself. And
this is a question that everyone should be asking themselves.
We're talking about, Well, they're going to indict Brennan on
Russigate and they may have already done it. You know
what he did back trying to undermine President Trump back
(18:28):
in twenty sixteen seventeen. That's all good and fine, it's
not what he did back then. Ask yourself this, what
are they doing now? Yeah, these people are still out there.
They're not stopping the ratchet only goes in one direction.
For the radical communist left, it only goes in one direction.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
And what are they doing now?
Speaker 3 (18:50):
And I don't believe President Trump has the right people
around him giving him the right information. I think I'm
not saying they're bad people, they're not the right people.
They want to do the right thing, but they don't
have the right information. And if you don't have the
right information, how do you fight it?
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Right?
Speaker 3 (19:06):
I mean, information is keen And if they're too afraid
the president they might tell the president something wrong, they
prevent people from telling the president something that is right.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
So do you think you know that we have a
more of a cold war problem now than we ever have?
I mean, I don't know how to well, how to
say it?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
You have a civil war problem.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
We're being infiltrated unlike we were before.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Well, the problem is it's a what do you I mean,
it's it's it's an infiltration, but it's a it's an
invited infiltration.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
It's being assisted by there's.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
When you and I kind of alluded to this in
the past, when the church had the breakdown in the
eighties and nineties and stop having that strong moral stance
it's it's the same thing in government. We know because
it's been shown without question that the State Department has
been involved in human trafficking people and Department of Homeland
(20:10):
Security have been involved in human trafficking. We know that
the Border patrol guys down on the border, a lot
of those are taking money from the cartels. And you know,
and I understand that's it's it's it's a difficult problem.
That's it's something I'm thankful I don't have to deal
with where you know, they're they basically tell them like
we're gonna shoot.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
You, give you money, or kill your family, you know.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
And there's no there's no consistency over time building trust
inside the major institutions because you have these sea schedule hoppers,
these political appointees, and so you have this amorphous deep
state that has been formed under strong, corrupt leadership of
John Brennan, of James Comy, of other people that you
(20:54):
wouldn't recognize their names. You might, you know, Victoria Newland,
whom a abd Michelle Florinoy. These people are working together
to undermine the United States of America. And here's the thing.
It's so insidious and it's so hard to believe that
you everyone's oh, it's a conspiracy theory. It's a conspiracy theory. Now,
(21:17):
if people understood history, they would understand that conspiracy theory.
That whole term came from the CIA. It was invented
by the CIA to throw people off understanding actual events.
But again, so you have to have courage of conviction
and leadership at all levels. You know, we've had whistleblowers
come out and then get pillared.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
You don't.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
You have congressmen that are more concerned about being reelected
than concerned about finding and digging out the truth. And
so what happens is you provide this environment of moral
relativism and no country, nation, or society has ever survived
(22:02):
in that. We always talk about Rome falling apart, but
the United States think about this. We have the greatest
nation in the world, not but because of our founding.
It is because of our founding, but it's also because
look at what we have. We have the most defendable
borders of any country in the world. We have the
most interconnected waterways, the most natural resources, we have everything.
(22:26):
Yet we struggle as a nation with massive deficits, with shortages.
Why these are man to steal something from the environmentalists.
These are man made problems designed to subjugate a society.
So when you have when you do that, then you
(22:46):
set yourself up for the rise of radical Islamism. You know,
where I'm not saying all people that are or Muslim
are bad. Some of my dearest friends, you know, I
stay at their homes, but they don't even like radicals.
But you have radicals here. You have a lot of
people that are working to undermine our nation. And the
(23:06):
real insidious thing is you have the major teaching institutions
telling people America is not great, nor is she good,
and that's just a lie.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
That is so. And so when you have.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
People that are with that more relativism where you're you're
transing young kids. We could go into the COVID thing
where you gave out that vaccine, which we know is
just horrific and is now there's no question, yet they're
still pushing it at all the major pharmacies and things
like that. When you have a medical system that is
they're not paying doctors, the insurance companies are deliberately slow
(23:40):
walking doctors and cratering the system. When you have all
of these things happening. A society will not survive unless
someone stands up and shows true strength. And President Trump,
I know, wants to do the right thing and will
do the right thing. But again, if he's not, if
they can keep him from getting the right information, then
(24:01):
they can keep him from leading.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
The nation in the right direction. And that's my concern
right now.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
So one of my other questions this weekend of my
brothers was who's next? Like, you look at the elections,
and I get they were in blue states, right, Morks, Okay,
But Trump endorsed some of those some of those people.
(24:29):
Trump does not have a great record on endorsement, But
Trump as a candidate is consistently elected, which defies like, right,
don't you think it defies?
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Well, some of those places that the wrong candidate was elected,
there were so many just think pulling stations shut down.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
I mean there were and again, but.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
This is my question, We're going to ask, So who's next?
Who's next? Because if Trump Trump Trump only has these
four years? J D, is he? I don't think so.
I like JD. Don't get me wrong, I like these people, JD.
I don't see there is no Trump. Trump is a
generational president. That's what scares you. Does that scare you, guys?
Speaker 3 (25:16):
It doesn't well, it's it doesn't scare me. But here's
the thing. Trump has a generation I believe annoying. I mean,
the same thing you want three He's there for a reason.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
Yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
But at the same time, I've met with j D.
He's a good guy, wants to do the right thing.
I'll tell you who's impressed me. And I used to
not be a fan, but I will tell you I'm
impressed right now.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Marco Rubio.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Oh my god, that's what I said.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
I will tell you I have never I've seen Marco
grow as a statesman. I've seen him, I've seen him mature.
And I'll just tell you I think if I were
to do a presidency, I would hear me, I would
Rubio vance. Yeah, and then you get Vance a few
more years to step in to understand the system. But
(26:11):
I think Rubio there's something about him. I mean, there's
a thing. This is what I told my brother this weekend.
I said, you look at Marco Rubio behind Trump everywhere.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
He is a sponge. He is soaking it all in.
He's learning, he's understanding, he's getting it. He's keeping his
mouth shut unless he needs to be spoken, unless he
needs to talk, and he is. You can see it
all over his face.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah, I agree with you. I mean, that's that's my
personal opinion.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
That's my opinion. You can see it.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
You can see there's a there's a level of growth
and maturity. And Marco understands the Senate. Yes, he's been
a let me tell you something, he's been an amazing secretarist,
not a good word, amazing And and and he's you know,
I I and and this is not a slam on JD.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
JD's a brilliant guy.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
And you know, my friend Charlie Kirk loved JD and
really promoted pushed him. But here's the thing, No one's
going to be successful unless we start getting people that
have their allegiance to truth, to God and integrity before
(27:30):
their allegiance to party and the crap that goes on
in DC. And I don't I mean, I never would
say this before. I think we'll make it as a nation.
But I'm not one hundred percent on that. I agree
with you, knowing what I know right now.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
So you have a question in Morgan, No, you're just
listening to taking ruby. I'm listening and.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Well, the thing is, the thing is we have do
you think we're going to have?
Speaker 5 (27:58):
Because my brother said it's time for the civil war. Okay,
it's time. Do you I mean, do you?
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I pray we don't. Look.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Look, I've been in war and there's nothing good about it.
It's not romantic, it's not fun.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
He's talking about picking up guns. He's talking about well,
we're already in a cold civil war. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
But you have groups out there, some very strong militia
groups that you know, they see the way the country's going.
I'm not a member of any of these militia groups,
and I don't support fracturing this nation.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
Right, That's what I said.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Well, the problem is this.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
When you have your elected officials that are intentionally beating
on the American people twenty four to seven. Look, let's
take the shutdown. We've had shutdowns before by Democrats. When
the Democrats shut down, you notice how we don't have
any aviation problems. The problems that you're seeing are deep
state push problems. They are problems that they go to
(28:59):
who have where they want and they say, okay, we're
going to cut this, this and this We're going to
make it hurt for people. They want to make you
hurt so that they get their way. We can't keep
funding Obamacare.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
You can't. No, it was not You.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Should have never worked in the It wasn't designed to work.
It was designed to fail and create the nation. So
you're what we're experiencing, those of us that saw this
in two thousand and eight to today, twenty two years later.
What you're seeing are consequences of people not paying attention
to what a lot of us saw were happening. What
(29:33):
you're seeing right now and what you're going to see
over the next ten to twenty years are the consequences
of the vaccines and of the way we treated COVID.
It's people are either going to wake up or they're not.
And again I go back to faith. When you have
people preaching truth, it takes a supernatural understanding of the
world through a moral lens that God gives you to
(29:57):
understand truth. You have to be honest with yourself because
you have we have so much confirmational bias because people
want this to be true. They I mean, look at
all these people out on social media about the EBT cards.
You have these people holding a fourteen hundred dollars phone.
They're nails done, tattoos, and these women that weigh driving
(30:18):
an escalade, driving an escalade, weighing about two hundred and
eighty pounds, five foot six, going I'm starving, they're taking
my I mean, come on, we are our poor people
live better than eighty percent of the people in the world,
and no one even understands that because again, no one's
paying attention at the actual facts.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
I was sitting in Kentucky yesterday. We were at a
barbecue place for brunch with my family, and I guess
this barbecue place has a kitchen pantry that poor people
can come into and get canned goods and whatever it was.
(30:59):
It was shoved in a corner, and this family walked
in and you literally described the wife, but then the
little boy was even larger than the wife. And they
(31:19):
were in that pantry, which was no bigger than maybe
two of these closets here that it was tiny, and
they just I don't know how many bags of stuff
they took out of that pantry, and I was like, really, really, well, you.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Know, Debbie's here's my take on it.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
But they're the poor. They're poor.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Now, I will tell you the way we've done food.
I mean, growing up, you didn't see a lot of
people overweight. No, I think that I have a lot
of people that come into my practice that are overweight
that and I'll sit down and go over what they're eating,
and they're not eating large amounts. I believe it's the food.
I believe it's the seed oils. I believe it's the
(32:05):
thing it's designed to. It's it's making people bigger than
they should be. And you know, I've our practice, you know,
my practice in plastic surgery. We have a wellness bin
on it too, because I want people not only to
lose weight or when we do li like bo or
Tommy Tucks or whatever, but we want them to keep
it off. And so we're working with them on understanding
(32:26):
the entire thing. And I've gone down this rabbit hole
because now that I'm older, you know, my joints can
hurt things like that. But I've never been overweight or big.
But I caught myself a few years ago, especially during COVID,
going well, I'm gaining weight, why I'm not eating a lot?
But it wasn't It wasn't how much I was eating.
Was what I was eating right, And so I've really
(32:48):
been studying this, looking at it, and I think there's
better ways to live. The mere fact that we push
people into poor foods. A lot of our food ingredients
are or outlawed in Europe. Yeah, And I like what
what Robert Kennedy's doing. I think he's doing a good
job with it, is trying to get a handle on
all this. But what you see, if you're going to
(33:10):
be honest with yourself, and if you were from another
planet and you came and you looked at the United
States and you got to see the entire history in this,
you would see that as government got bigger, people got
less healthy, poor, more enslaved. I mean, you don't the
taxes now are I mean we were billed over a
(33:33):
tax on tea. Now we're taxed on the money we make,
the money, we spend, the money, we save, the money,
we inherit, the money you.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Have when you die.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
We're taxed on the gasoline we put in our car.
And then we're taxed on the roads we're driving on
that have already been paid for in our taxes. And
then if you own anything, you're paying property taxes, so
you really own nothing.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
And especially and this is the bug.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
In my bonnet down here in Nuez's County is our
property taxes are insane. Oh yeah, they're insane. It's because
of poor governance. And until people start rising up and saying,
you know what, we're not gonna do this anymore. I
think Warren Buffett had it best. He said, you know,
as soon as the deficit, as soon as the deficent
rises above two percent or something three percent, he said,
(34:20):
then you just you you you. Everyone that's in Congress
can't run again. I mean as soon as if they
have bad outcomes, they can't run again. Someone else has
to run. I mean, that would stop it. There's no consequences.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
So true.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
So the Pavlovian response in Washington, d C. Is to
what the lobbyist wants, and you'll get money and then
will hire the public relations people to make your constituents
think you're doing the right thing when you're clearly not.
Speaker 5 (34:48):
Yeah, that's it. Larry Larden, Texadent. It will be like Michigan.
Wayne County votes Democrat carries the whole state when the
rest of the state votes Republican. That's what makes you
elect college so important. And having been born in Wayne County,
grown up in Wayne County. All my people are from
(35:09):
Wayne County. Well, let me tell you something I've seen Texans.
Then we're Texans, and Texans can come back. But we
have to start being responsible. We have to start holding
people accountable. Here's the thing we don't do anymore. We
don't publicly shame anybody. That's so true.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
I mean, I think that if someone does a bonehead thing,
you start buying billboards and putting it up everywhere they
and their family drive.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Hey, you want that, you want the spotlight, We'll give
you the spotlight. Do the right thing. If you don't
do the right thing, we're going to bring it home.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
I think though, I think Republicans shame their own. I
don't think Democrats shame any p Plain John corn into me.
What what has John Cornan done morally?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
It's not morally. What has he done right?
Speaker 5 (35:59):
Well, I'll tell you what I think John Cornyn is done,
probably in his mind right is he's played the game
so that he is in leadership. Which it's a game, Keith,
it is a game, but it's a game.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
And he's supported John when he first ran. But I've
seen him work hand in hand with Cocaine Mitch. I've
seen him go along with he's.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
By the way, Cocaine Mitch is gone.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
He is.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
And you know who's running against it, who's running for
that seat? Because I was just in Kentucky, Andy Barr,
who was a congressman from I think the sixth district,
who was a friend of ours, like Blake. Andy's a
good guy. Trump's do an ads for him good because
I was watching. Here's the thing is I look at people,
so I think that's going to change.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
I guess is what I look.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
If John does the right thing, I'll be the biggest
fan of John. But I want to see you do
the right thing. He did something, he went against the
Second Amendment. Why and they did a lot of the
real sketchy stuff. But again, if they do the right thing,
I'll applaud them. If they don't, I won't. I would
just tell your listeners this, and I'm you can take
(37:14):
this for what it's worth. We're not in any other
time in the history of our nation like we are
right now. This is not the eighties, this is not
the nineties, is not even the early two thousands. We
are on the precipice. And I believe that we're going
to have an absolute terrible event before the end of
(37:40):
the year. I agree, and I pray we don't. I
pray that it's stopped. But if we continue along the
way we are, I don't see how we don't, and
it's going to shake the conscience of the American people.
Have said this on your show before. My boss in
the intelligence world was Dewey Clericge and you don't look
at what the press says about him, but look at
(38:01):
what he actually did for the country, which was amazing
do He was a deputy director of Operations and he
was a special assistant to the special assistant to the
President when Bill Casey was at the CIA. And Dewey
told me this. He said, I have two rules that
you have to operate by. Number one, never do anything
(38:22):
that you know is morally unconstable that you can't live with.
He goes, it's nothing worth that. You just don't do it,
you know, just walk away.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
He said.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
The second rule is never do anything that not if
but when it is known, becomes known by the American public,
it would shock the conscience of the nation. And he paused,
and he looked at me, and he said the nation
takes a lot to shock him.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
But if it does.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
That, he said, you don't know what's going to happen
after that, and I will tell you this with what
I know, and that could happen. If it happens, it
will shock the conscience of this.
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