Ep.404 Breaking Down the Iran-Israel Conflict: What You're Not Hearing

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---------------------------------------------------- Dr. Keith Rose delves into Israel's effective use of cyber and intelligence tactics to neutralize Iran's air defenses, highlighting a successful strategy despite initial expectations. It questions the viability of using bunker busters on deep underground facilities, noting concerns over effectiveness and US involvement risks. The episode critiques political leadership in Israel regarding security breaches and praises President Trump's preference for negotiations over military conflict. Emphasizing peace through strength, it also raises issues with US intelligence failures and calls for transparency to prevent global tensions. ------------------------------------------------- Dr. Keith Rose discusses Israel's successful military actions against Iran, employing cyber and drone tactics that proved more effective than initially expected. In contrast, the US military-industrial complex and Biden administration took a different approach, which may have been less strategic. Iran responded with limited missile attacks, revealing vulnerabilities exposed by Israel's operations. The potential use of a bunker buster weapons is questioned for its effectiveness against such a deeply underground facility and the risks of revealing US involvement. The host critiques political dynamics within Israel, particularly leadership issues near Gaza. President Trump is praised for preferring negotiations over war, aligning with a peace-through-strength strategy. Intelligence failures regarding Iran's nuclear capabilities are highlighted, linked to concerns about a "deep state" undermining Trump, suggesting reforms in national security. ---
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
Welcome to the Scalpel. This is doctor Keith Rose. We're
gonna talk about Iran today. We're gonna talk about Israel
to day. It's not gonna be long, but I'm gonna
give you my take on what's going on because there
seems to be a lot of people seeing a lot
of different things, and I'm just going to try to
make it a little more coherent. Maybe it'll help, maybe

(00:49):
it won't, but I pray it does, and I pray
that you will see the larger picture because the situation
with Iran and Israel shines a spotlight on the deficiencies
not only of the Iranian military, but our current military

(01:13):
industrial complex. It all started when Iran attacked Israel. I
don't know if everyone knows this, but according to our
military leaders, and this is pre President Trump said that
if we were to go to war or attack Iran,

(01:35):
it would take a full three weeks of non stop
bombardiment to soften up their anti aircraft sites. That it
would be too dangerous just to fly straight in and
do anything or any direct attacks, but we would have
to spend three weeks attacking their air defense. That's what

(01:56):
our military leaders said during the Biden administration. Interestingly enough,
Israel didn't get the memo because over two hundred jets
flew multiple sorties into Iran, and my understanding is they
didn't lose a plane the first day, except maybe I

(02:19):
think there's some reports of a mechanical but they flew
in undetected because the Israelis understood something. They understood you
can't just have good signals intelligence. You have to have
human intelligence, and you have to utilize all your intelligence
and subversive capabilities. So they attacked their air defense systems

(02:42):
through cyber attacks, through human attacks, through drone attacks, and
they actually built a drone base inside Iran. And before
anyone goes that's amazing, Look, we we know how to
operate in Iran, but Israel actually operates Iran. Israel's been
doing it for a long time, and they're really good

(03:05):
at it. So they went in basically unopposed, and they're
kicking the stuffing right out of the Iranians right now.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Now.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
The Iranians have responded with several missile attacks, but by
all reports, their missile supply is limited, and while they
do have some much bigger missiles that they haven't used
and could be devastating to places in the region, I
believe Israel's been strategic enough and relentless enough that they

(03:40):
have Iran on their heels. That's the good news. The
news I'm concerned about is a lot of people are
calling for us to jump in the fray. They're saying
to get FODAW. One of the most secure bunkers, whether
they're keeping nuclear information or actual Centrifugia's or nuclear material

(04:03):
is deep in the ground, and so clearly they say,
let's just use one of our GBU fifty seven's one
of our bunker busters. And you're seeing lots of people
talk about it, well, let's just go in there and
hit it with a bunker buster. But you're not seeing
a lot of accurate information on said bunker buster. Because

(04:28):
I've spoken with people that have been involved with that
program that we're out during the testing of it, and
it does work if you drop it, and it hits
perfectly on a quote flat surface because it is dropped

(04:50):
from a B two bomber. It's dropped from fifty thousand
plus feet and it has to reach terminal velocity, and
it basically has fans on the back of it, a
guidance system, and it will guide it and it will
drill a hole and it goes down by most reports
one hundred plus feet, and some of that may be
classified as to the exact depth. I don't know. You

(05:13):
can read different things. But what no one's talking about
is that ford Ow is a twenty five hundred mile
area of uneven steep terrain. And from all the people

(05:35):
I've spoke to in my contacts, they believe that there
is a pretty much zero percent chance that a bunker
buster would be effected there at least effective in destroying
whatever they want to destroy, because by some reports, this
hardened facility is over three hundred feet in the earth. Now,

(05:56):
if we did drop a quote bunker buster, one thing
we could be sure of is it would most likely
have hitting at an angle a malfunction, and there would
be debris that would identify the United States of America.
It would identify through the parts in the guidance system.

(06:17):
The big fan on the back or the big tail
of the back would show that, yes, this is from America.
And while some of you think that may not be important,
it may be. In addition to that, it has to
be delivered by the B two stealth bomber. Now everyone

(06:38):
thinks that that's just real high speed technology, and it is,
and it was back in nineteen eighty nine and nineteen
ninety when it was developed and really started to be
used around two thousand. But folks, it is twenty twenty
five and the skin of the B two is very good.

(07:01):
Being invisible to radar, there's no question. But radar has
become more advanced over the past twenty five years, and
my understanding from several sources in the field is that
while you can't see it on radar, you can follow
the quote unquote blank spot that it puts out with
the newer generation radar equipment. So while you may not

(07:26):
be able to exactly see it, it's possible that Iran
could see it. And having and with the possibility of
Iran possibly seeing the B two, they could even potentially
shoot up enough rockets to knock it out of the sky.
Then we would have a crashed plane in Iran. Now
it has a very sophisticated ejection system, so then they

(07:48):
might have two pilots captured in Iran. So the flippant
hey let's just drop a bunker buster on ford Al
and helped the as Raelly's is not as simple as
everyone would like to say, and we need to pay
attention now. In full disclosure, I am a passionate supporter

(08:11):
of Israel. I believe biblically we have to support Israel.
But it doesn't say biblically we have to support all
of Israel's decisions in a secular government, and it doesn't
say we have to accept their government's decisions if we
don't see that it aligns with certain principles that we understand.

(08:39):
I think there's a lot of questions to baby nn
Yaho's administration right now, and I'm a supporter of Nen
Yahu in the past, I really am, and I'm not
against Prime Minister Nyaho. I think he's done amazing things
for Israel. But I also believe in truth and I
believe in asking questions. One question that hasn't been answered adequately,

(09:02):
and it's something my brother Charlie Kirk brought up the
other day, is that no one has been able to
explain why Israel was so exposed on October seventh, and
the excuses and explanations we've heard don't pass the smell test.
I've been to Israel multiple times. My father made over

(09:24):
fifty trips to Israel. He was a tour guide there,
he led groups over there, and I guess you could
say I literally grew up going back and forth to Israel,
and Israel is a very safe country. In fact, my
dad would always say, you're safer walking in downtown Tel
Aviv than you ever are walking in downtown New York City.

(09:48):
Israel knows that it's a small state. You can literally
fly across it in a helicopter in less than an hour.
You can get to most places really fat. And it
doesn't make sense that they left an area close to Gaza,

(10:10):
bordering Gaza where twelve hundred plus people could just cross
over and cause mayhem and kill as many people as
they did and disrupt the Israelis like they did again.
I believe in truth, and truth be known before October

(10:32):
seventh I believe the Kennessett, the ruling body of Israel,
was getting ready to take a vote they were gonna
oust net Yahoo or they were really having a problem
with them, and there was a lot of political turmoil
and it wasn't looking good for Prime Minister net Yahoo.
And I say this with no joy because I'm a
huge supporter of him. But somehow there was a raid

(10:55):
in Gaza that wasn't responded to, that ended tragically, and
it was a human tragedy, and the whole nation appropriately
got behind their leader with emergency powers. I'm not for
or against what happened. Mean, I'm totally against what happened

(11:22):
with Hamas coming into Israel, but I do believe we
need to pay attention to the surrounding circumstances. And no
one has adequately answered the question why I didn't Why
was it so easy? Because Israel's never been one of
those nations to be incompetent, and the quote lapse of

(11:47):
security on their border does not line up with the
absolute precision an execution of the attack on Iran doesn't
line up up. So it leaves some question marks. And

(12:09):
that's why I'm thankful we have President Trump as our president,
because President Trump isn't someone who just has knee jerk
reactions to emotional events or events that have the potential
to threaten our national security. He actually looks at things differently,

(12:33):
I would say, from a non political eye. Victor Davis
Hansen had a tweet the other day and it was
brilliant and I'm gonna mention several things he touched on
in that tweet, and I give him all the credit
because he writes Trump prefaced war as a nonsensical wastage

(12:56):
of life at staggering human cost that supposedly more humane
and more sophisticated critics never even mentioned too much. At best,
one could say Trump really did lament the horrific loss
of life, and that, at the least as a builder
in quote deal maker, wars for him rarely made any

(13:16):
practical business since seems wiser to build things and mutually
profit than blow them up and impoverish everyone involved. And
that's what Trump's doing right now. He's a vi Iran.
It seems in line with what he has said and
actually done what he has said about keeping America first.

(13:37):
Now it doesn't profit most people, wore, but it does
profit some people. This is me talking now. It profits
a large military industrial complex that I'm sure was very
excited about three weeks of bombing it owns anti aircraft sites,
because those bombs cost money, and that's how the military

(14:00):
industrial complex makes money. But back to Victor David Hanson,
he does he knows President Trump sees Israel entrants in
neutering the nuclear agenda with a thuggish and dangerous Iran
as strategically similar similar to our own and our allies.
No one wants a nuclear Iran, especially with their current leadership.

(14:31):
But while we all don't want a nuclear run, the
way to go about it may not necessarily and even
tactically in every instance be identical. I agree with Victor
David Hanson when he says Trump wants I Ran a
nuclear threat taken out by Israel. Israel should in isorial can,

(14:52):
and if we need to help them with logistics and diplomatically,
that's what we should be doing. And Trump is even
willing to talk to the Iranians, so he's not even
insulting all their leaders right now. He wants to show
them that he prefers exhaustive negotiations to preemptive war, so

(15:17):
Iran's fates in its own hands. It can either be
a non nuclear rich state analogous to the Gulf States,
or it can be a rogue terrorist regime that threatens
the West with nukes. And there are a lot of
solutions on the table. And if you add all this up,

(15:42):
there's a reason Putin didn't invade Ukraine during Trump's first term,
while for the first time in nearly fifty years, the
Middle East had some chance at normality with the demise
of Idan Shia, Crescent of Terra getting rid of ISIS.
And why are European and Asian allies may be more
irritated by Trump than by Obama and Biden. But also

(16:10):
Trump is more likely to defend our shared Western interests
in the extremists, and that will lead us to a
far stronger, more deterrent West than our previous leaders have
led us to, and one that will prevent war by
assuring others that it is suicidal to attack the US.

(16:33):
So there's nothing wrong with peace through strength. And President
Trump knows that. President Trump is not ideological isolationist, and
he's not an interventionist. He is a nationalist populist, and
he looks at cost benefit and everything. Now, I will

(16:57):
tell you this. I think Israel was more successful than
we would have been initially because Israel has better intelligence
services than the Americans do. Right now, because we have
allowed our intelligence services to be degraded, we have let
strategic and comprehension infiltrate most of our intelligence services. You

(17:22):
can see that when Tulci Gabbert, who was given an
inaccurate assessment, This is not Tulsi's fault. This is the
intelligence people that gave her the assessment, which I believe
was the CIA under John Radcliffe on March twenty fifth,
when she told Congress that the assessment of the intelligence
community is that Iron did not even have a functional

(17:44):
or near functional nuclear program, and clearly that was wrong.
Tulsi understood that, understands that now, and she probably understands
that she was set up by an incompetent and I
pray non malevolent intelligence community leadership.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Now.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
I'm a big supporter of Tulsi because I think she's
the only one actually getting things done and she scares
the quote unquote deep state. And if you want to
understand who the deep state is outside of John Brennan,
Victoria Neulan, whom I have adeem michaufflor annoyance mothers. I
don't know, just saying out loud, it's probably people, rogue
actors that are using the intelligence community and their relationships

(18:32):
and their banking relationships and their black money to undermine
this president and the will of the American people, thinking
that the elites know better of how to lead a
nation and of course how to enrich themselves in others
that are in their ideological circles. But my prayer is

(18:55):
that President Trump will use wisdom discernment and get people
around him that have wisdom and discernment, Get people around
him like Reagan did that can tell him the correct
questions to ask, because Trump needs someone leading the intel community,

(19:16):
or at least someone as the national at the National
Security Council, who will tell him the truth and filter
out all the military industrial machine and the deep state
profit plan. We'll just go in and say, sir asked
his question, what about this? And those people are out there,
and I hope everyone's praying that President Trump finds them

(19:40):
and puts that group to work. Hint, hint, nudge, nudge.
We pray he does, because I can tell you, unless
we get a handle on understanding what is out there
and what is going on, understanding the human component, the

(20:00):
electronic component, the cyber component, the signals component, everything. It's
going to be very difficult for our leaders to make
good decisions and not be driven in a certain way
with a certain narrative that pushes this nation down a
dangerous path that could ignite global conflict. So I pray

(20:29):
it doesn't happen. I pray that Israel takes care of
Iran the way they're doing it, and I pray that
the Mullas are overthrown and that the Iranian people, the
most part of the Iranian people, are great, intelligent, wonderful people.
I pray that they can get their freedom back, just

(20:53):
like I pray we are getting our freedom back, and
it started with the election of President Trump. But it
can only be continued and solidified by taking back and
bringing to heal a rogue deep state, a rogue national
security apparatus, rogue intelligence community that decides what they want

(21:13):
to do and tell the president what they want him
to know. I guess I'm throwing a few flames out there,
but if you put enough flame out there, it brings
light to the situation. And I believe that is the
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