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Speaker 2 (03:00):
The next episode of the Scalpel starts.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Now, if we had a normal society, when Colbert would
be the actual material that late night comedy people would
make fun of you.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yes, I mean he would be a skit on Saturday
Night Live. I'm the subject of a skit that he
would be in it. But we've lost our ability to
have comedy. I mean, if you want good comedy, you
have to go twenty years ago. Yeah, that and when
comedians were funny, because if you look at it, in politics,
(03:35):
there's a new rule like tell me one time someone
made fun of Joe Biden. Think about that one for
a second. They couldn't make fun of him directly because
they were told they couldn't. These aren't comedians, these are
these are basically gestures in the court that are told
who and who they cannot and what they're allowed to
make fun.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Apparently, and apparently it was Barack Obamaba and the puppeteer,
as we're are now finding out with all the Russia
Russia Russia hosts.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
This is not new news. I've been talking about. Well, no,
I'm not saying.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
But we've got verification and validation.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Well, you know, we a lot of US conspiracy. Yeah,
a lot of US knew about those meetings they had
before Trump came into office. In fact, I was part
of a team that wrote up over over a thousand
pages of material and hand delivered it to Bill Barr's
people of the actual documents, and magically enough, no one
(04:32):
did anything with disappointment, sir, when we realized Bill Barr
the only thing that he did successfully was hit the
Chinese buffet continually in d Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Yeah, he's a very very.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
All you can eat well he's he's a man that
lacks any integrity and and and I say that with
all no respect. The thing is he everyone's such a
good guy. The guy has the Bible says you know
them by their fruit. This guy's had bad fruit, so
bad fruit, bad route. I mean, he came from a
(05:04):
bad place. And it's sad because we should self correct.
And what happens now is we are on very tenuous
ground and in a new world. As far as the
fact that I don't believe the American people have deteriorated
(05:25):
as much as the American government has, no one trusts them.
They've lost the confidence in the trust of the American people.
President Trump hasn't, but the government has.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
So this has always been my deal. You know, people
scream for term limits, term limits, term limits. They sound
great and on the surface, I don't disagree with term limits. However,
if you're not going to clean house below the elected,
then you're never going to a term limits are in effect, Well,
(06:00):
they're in an effective tool. You should not be able
to work for the government for more than whatever.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
One hundred percent. Well, the thing is Turnlamits just term
limits only applied to the president. So what that means
is you grow an organism deep and the president keeps
getting changed out. Now, the founders Madison Jefferson Washington, Franklin,
(06:29):
all those, all the founders, I mean, if you read
their writings, they had an over arching theme. I mean,
there are literally just just Google Founders quotes on virtue.
And what the founder said essentially was if you lost virtue,
and for the audience, virtue meaning the ability to self govern,
(06:51):
govern yourself with morals. Not that you were priggish, not
that you were like this overly pious person, but someone
that understood good, that right is right and wrong is wrong,
and especially as it pertained to our government. And they said,
if we lose those and I'm just I'm just summarizing here,
(07:13):
if we lose virtue, we're not going to be able
to govern. This system will not work for an unvirtuous,
immoral people, correct, And so we have become an unvirtuous,
immoral people in Washington, d C. Washington, d C has
literally become the island of misfit toys. Now they don't
(07:34):
understand that, but the rest of the American people do.
And that's why we had President Trump get elected by
such an overwhelming margin, even when they tried to cheat
and do everything else. What you're going to find out, though,
as you found out about Barack Obama. As you're finding
out about Comey, as you're finding out about John Brennan,
you're going to find out that the cheating and the
twenty sixteen election went way past our twenty twenty election,
(07:58):
went way past what most people in stand. You got
someone like Tina Peters, who's in prison right now for
pointing out the obvious, a gold star mom in Colorado
who should be released immediately.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
Well that's the thing, and that that was gonna be.
My next point is none of this means anything if
something doesn't happen to John Brennan, James Comey, Peter struck
lesa page, the rest of.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Let me let me throw us some more names for you.
Well you know, okay, whom Abdeen, Michelle Forna, Victoria Neiland, Yes.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
All those people, if we don't hold them accountable, When
Steve Bannon rotted in prison for what six months whatever?
When uh Paul Maniford, all the rest of us, all
the rest of them, and if we're going to do
one for one, if I'm telling you, if nobody goes
(08:55):
to jail over any of this stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Well, let me let me explain something to your audience,
because is number one, you will never ever see John
Brennan on trial. I'm going to tell you why John
Brennan was the Director of Central Intelligence. No DCI will
ever be brought to trial because they have too much
information on the country. You can't. But there are remedies
(09:21):
to John Brennan, John Brennan, the President has certain remedies
for these bad state actors, right and these guys have
committed from what I understand and what I have seen,
treason what I know, and there's ways that the President
(09:41):
and their remedies under Title fifty, under Title eighteen of
the espionajack to deal with that. Because what I hope
everyone understands is we are at an inflection point in
history like the likes we've never seen. There's I remember
when I first started my career in intell just decades ago,
(10:02):
and one of my mentors said, if you stay in
this long enough, you're gonna learn things you wish you
never learned. You're going to understand things that are gonna
really challenge you as far as just keeping your sanity. Now,
if it wasn't for my faith in Christ, I would
I would be in a rubber room right now with
(10:24):
what I've understand and know, but I want to encourage
people because right now I don't see a way forward
in our nation unless we go back to first principles,
and that's going back to God, that's going back to truth,
that's going back to morality. My boss, God rest his soul.
(10:46):
Dewey clarities to say, sunshine is the best disinfectant, and
we need a lot of light to bring to this
situation because what you're seeing, the Russian collusion, that is
the kid of the iceberg. That's not even that's not
even the iceberg that's like a floating chunk of ice
(11:07):
in the sea. There's a bigger iceberg. And I believe that,
and this is my personal opinion. I believe President Trump
is a one in a century man and was created
for this time. I agree he The trouble is he's
not getting all the information he needs to govern effectively
(11:31):
because I believe that there are people even in his
inner circle, that do not have the focus of his
agenda in his best interest, and that's a tough thing
to deal with. I think the President probably intuitively understands
that and knows that.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
But oh I think he learned that lesson in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Well, I think there's still people know, but there's still people. See.
Here's the thing. When President Trump was attacked with lawfare.
In intelligence and military, you have orders of battle, you
have you have the same thing in what we call
covert action or espionage or information operations or what you
(12:14):
want to call it. And first of all, you have
first order effects. That's what it is primarily intended to do.
And so the lawfair against President Trump first order effects
were to keep him busy, during him financially, try to
try to not only bankrupt him, but if they get lucky,
you put him in prison. Use that law fair, try
(12:34):
to degrade his public, the perception the public has of him.
Those are first order effects. Second order effects and third
order effects are put him on his heels. And then
you don't know if you can beat him because they've
never been successful against you. I mean someone has to
sit back and go, man, doesn't matter what we throw
(12:55):
at this guy, he always beats us. And so what
you do is you insinuate people in his inner orbit.
I would run attorneys into his orbit that help him
be successful during those law fair times, right, I would
run in people to support him through his darkest days,
so he really trusts them, He'll lean on him and
(13:17):
make them successful. May make make them successful through well,
we have the cat in the studio, Yeah, the cat.
We are we are completely animal friendly here. That makes
them successful in the as far as he would trust
(13:38):
them and lean on them because he's been attacked by
so many people. So then you have these people that
are essentially access agents into the president. And then when
he if he is successful, he's going to trust these
people and you can use them to undermine him later
once he's in the oval office. And I can probably
identify a few of these people and people that he's appointed.
(14:01):
And that's not on President Trump. He is brilliant, but
no one can pick out these people. That's why you
have to have what Ronald Reagan had. And I've talked
about this several times. I believe the president needs a
kitchen cabinet. Ronald Reagan had one. No one ever hears
about it because you shouldn't. And a kitchen cabinet is
a group of people, usually old timers or older guys
(14:25):
from the intelligence services that come back that don't want
to be known, that tell the new president, sir, this
is Title fifty. That's a foreign intelligence Act. These are
your authorities, this is what you can do. These are
your abilities. At the same time, they give him the
(14:48):
questions to ask, because President Trump needs the questions to ask,
and they can tell him, sir, this is how the
system works. You can bring the system, the US government
to heal if you understand the processes and how it works.
It's like this with every new Congressman when they come out. Yeah.
But the problem is if you get managed, meaning someone
(15:10):
gets you, and what they do what we call in intelligence,
they mushroom you, which means they put you in the
dark and they feed you poop. Doesn't matter who you are,
you're not going to ask the right questions, you're not
going to understand the processes, and it takes you a
while to get your bearings and be able to govern.
And now President Trump has gotten a ton of stuff done.
But if you had a kitchen cabinet, see, the system won't.
It's a lot of people will hesitate to actually lie
(15:32):
to the president, but they won't hesitate to not tell
him right, the truth, the liable, the live of omission,
it's omission or comission, and you have to watch that.
So I think that is where President Trump could really
use his authorities.
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believe and understand.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
And I'm fascinated by go ahead, manday anything you got
over there.
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That you see lead.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
I need new glasses.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
It's really gotten really bad. It's gotten really bad. I
need new glasses.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Let's see.
Speaker 6 (16:59):
I think one of the major issues of government, and
I don't know how you can fix it, is it
wasn't supposed to be a full time job. You were
just supposed to go every once in a while, kind
of like in Texas.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Well it is. And the thing is, government attracts two
types of people. And let me step back for a second.
If people want to understand our government, you need to
understand what it's supposed to look like and what it's
supposed to do. That's when I'm going to segue back
(17:28):
to where I talked about the kitchen cabinet. Unless you
understand how things are supposed to work, it's really hard
to make them work. And so you get guys inside
a government, state government, local government. They get their feet
on the ground and they get time to what I
just call metastasize into the different positions and they know
(17:49):
how to manipulate the process. And if they don't have
virtue and they're not there for altruistic reasons, then it
can become a tool of very self serving people. Though,
say like people get on the council so they get
more business for their title companies, or they get you know,
they they get in a certain position so they can
(18:11):
get contracts and you know, get their friends' contracts to
build schools that we desperately need. Maybe not sort of,
but who knows. I don't know, but you take it
to a larger level in a national level, and you
get people inside of Congress who the only way you've
become successful in Congress is you have to make deals.
(18:33):
You have to you have to be a tool of
k Street. And so the way that you fix these
problems is a root and branch action. You have to
tear it out by the roots and the branches. And
I do believe President Trump is that guy. But the
way you do that is you catch them where they've
(18:55):
overstepped like never before and by God's grace, and that's
literally what it's going to take to fix these problems.
You have so much dysfunction and moufeasance inside the Beltway
that you literally it's like shooting It's like shooting fish
in a barrel. You're going to have to have to
(19:16):
pick and be strategic and how you're going to take
care of these folks, and you know that that takes wisdom,
and we're going to need a lot of wisdom to
deal with that.
Speaker 6 (19:27):
Yeah, And I think what my mom was getting at
earlier too, is even if you let's say we talk
about different people that you elect into government that then
go and they're there for the wrong reasons and you know,
to get business for their own companies. Then the problem too,
those if you get the right person in office, you
still have the same staffers applying for the same jobs.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Well that's that goes back to the intelligence side of this.
They're managed assets. Most congressmen are managed assets. They get
in and they are told, this is going to be
your chief of staff, this is going to be who
you are, who you get Oh wait wait, I'm going
to show you how we do it here. Yeah. So
congressmen get in and they're they're completely surrounded and managed.
(20:13):
I made a recommendation a while back. I think that
there should be an off site weekend for incoming congressmen
where they learn literally it's an intense weekend. You take
them out to a resort, you take them out somewhere fun,
let them bring their wives, spend time with their families,
and you start explaining to them how Washington works, this
(20:36):
is what and it's literally an intelligence weekend to educate
them on this is how you're going to get played,
this is how you're going to get attacked.
Speaker 7 (20:43):
This is what it would fare right into the orientation
because they have I remember when Dad first got elected.
They have all sorts of orientations been on by all
sorts of people. I sat in on the Heritage Foundation one,
but it was you know, how to be a constitutionalist
and things like that. Nothing about, like you're saying, the
inside game and how it works.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
But this is a thing. Yeah, they basic stuff. Don't
go to Cafe Milana, where there's more internal mics than
anywhere on the planet that every intelligency in the world
has micd up. I wouldn't go there, probably to have
it there serious conference. But this is.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
A my my concern with that. I think that's an
excellent idea, but it's who's running it, because most of
the people running those things have their own agenda anyway,
and they're pushing they're pushing the pavelot again.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
That's where he comes in. The kitchen cabinet. Yeah, now
I didn't make that. I'm not the genius that came
up with I'm not a genius. First, everyone knows that
who lives in Corpus CHRISTI. The person that came up
with the kitchen cabinet happens to be one of the
guys that I used to work for, and so I
understood the kitchen cabinet, because the first kitchen cabinet was
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used with Ronald Reagan after he came in after Jimmy Carter.
Now wasn't as bad as coming in after the people
that stood up Joe Biden because I don't really say
Joe Biden, because Joe Biden didn't even know that he
was president, probably, But the kitchen cabinet came in and
gave Reagan the questions to ask. And that's why you
(22:15):
see these great videos of Ronald Reagan with people in
his office and he's asking him these questions and he's
just I mean, there's like a library of Reagan videos
of him and people are like, gosh, that is so
much common sense. Well, he had his kitchen cabinet. I
happened to know several people that were on that kitchen cabinet,
and I'm not at liberty to say, but I can
tell you that they were all patriots. They didn't want anything.
(22:38):
Because you don't know the members of the kitchen cabinet,
there's no you get no benefit for being in the
kitchen cabinet. You're giving the president the questions to ask
to bring the system to heal. Right, Now here's the
challenge we face in our nation. The biggest root cause
of what's going on right now. All the problems we're
seen in Washington, DC are coming from rogue members of
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the intelligence community, former and current. And this is why
the intelligence community is the link to any type of
financial resources, I mean big financial resources. The agency has
more banking relationships, more black money pots. I mean, you
could do a year shows on that, but then you'd
(23:21):
probably be put in jail for breaking not disclosures. Second
thing is the intelligence community has They are trained and
understand personalities and covert action. So these are the folks
that are setting you up. And they also have the
links to other intelligence agencies around the world, so they
can talk to other nations spy services, and they can
(23:47):
coordinate international covert action. So let me give you one
small example of what I just said. You had Barack Obama.
This is all now now using John Brennan, who was
his second term. John Brennan was the Director Essential Intelligence
(24:08):
first term. They knew they couldn't get John Brennan pass
confirmation until Obama seeded the government with his people. So
John Brennan was in the I believe this in that
he was working for the Department of Homeland Security. But
what Brennan did is Brennan had eight years of eight
years of Obama to run out every intelligence professional that
(24:33):
did it he didn't like or wouldn't go along with
what he wanted, and he seeded the entire intelligence along
with General Hayden, along with James Clapper, the Seal because
he just flaps his hands. These guys have the ability
to get in there and just completely seed and destroy
the intelligence community. Then, I mean, and I can tell
(24:58):
you they did from being told this community from being
an effective tool to keep this nation safe, and they
turned it to an internal mechanism to keep and maintain
personal power and ideological power for whoever they deem they
want to do that. They also built up relationships with Russia, China, England,
all these other intelligence communities, and the one with England.
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They used England and they used the GHQ, I mean,
which is the essay part of England. I believe you're
going to see if it ever comes out, that they
used these relationships and then they created an intelligence product here.
But they had the folks the intelligence community in England
quote discover said intelligence product that we created. That's what
(25:43):
it's called circular intelligence, and then they report it back
to us. So then we're just coming in and Koumi's
just coming in and reporting this is what we're hearing
from our foreign people. That's like giving them a picture
and then them calling us and go, we discovered this
picture in one of our intelligence collections when we were
we're monitoring Russia. Oh no, we handed you the picture,
(26:03):
and you're telling us what we want to hear, right, So,
and that's an oversimplification, but that's what they do. They
do circular reporting. They have all the relationships with the media.
Don't forget Operation paper Clip. Everyone go up and educate
yourself on all these things as far as what they
do and how they control the propaganda. And so you
have guys that really specialize in covert action doing it
(26:24):
on American soil, which is sedition and treason. But that's
a problem, and that's where I think President Trump has
not been effective yet. He has to get control of
the intelligence community. He has Tulsi, but Tulsi was never
an intelligence boss now and they need to get someone
in there that's been an intelligence boss. Those guys are
all retired, but I know someone would come back and
(26:47):
that know how to can give him the kitchen Cabinet report.
And they need to put someone in the office next
to him so he knows what's happening and how it's happening.
But John Brennan had unfettered access to promotions, built up
a cabal of people literally, and they are using it
to undermine the president. And also here's a bigger problem.
(27:08):
John Brennan voted for the Communist Party in like seventy six.
Gus Hall, who was a prominent member of the Communist Party,
I remember it, and you know there when we caught
you had Aldert's aims, you had Nicholson, these Russian spies,
but there was still another man out there. Is it
possible John Britton Is that other man? I don't know,
(27:30):
But they need to bring someone back like John Maguire,
who I can't go into great detail, but John was
a senior SIS, senior Intelligence Services guy that worked under
Dewey clerics that knows the system. It would be these
guys' biggest nightmare and would support the president. That's what
I would do. I mean, I put John in the
(27:51):
office next to him, and John w J mister president.
This is how you do it and the president all
he needs to know is his options, and John give
him a whole list of options, and then they could
play some serious whack the mall and ultimately I think
that would end up with completely dismantling the agency and
building something new in a new Oss type model, which
(28:14):
is what we need in the beginning, because anything that
grows too big becomes ineffective, right, and that's pretty much
our entire government. But you know, you got to start
somewhere in the and the thing that keeps everything going
is the intelligence agency, and that brings you back to Epstein.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
Well that's why I was just gonna go, oh my gosh,
heat great minds. I was gonna go to Epstein talk
about it. They don't talk about it.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Okay, what are your thoughts on that? Okay, I'm gonna
say something that may be controversial, but that's a shock. Yeah,
the cat does not like Epstein. This is clearly anti
Epstein cat the intelligence community. I mean, Epstein is the
scalpel with dodgers. I know a lot about Epstein. To
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Speaker 1 (29:27):
That involved with Epstein, you're gonna have a lot of
intelligence services, a lot of our ally intelligence services. This
is just my thumbnail. I mean my you know, licking
my finger and stick in the wind. I imagine it would
affect over half of Congress from the Senate in some way.
I'm not saying with children, but relations they may, they
(29:50):
may some We may have a lot of Congressmen, even
Republicans that made it to the island to go mess
around with girls that they should enough. But it's gonna
President Trump is already fighting a guerrilla warfare with the
intelligence community and the deep state. He's right fighting a
rearguard action now, and he doesn't really have a lot
of ic people helping him. If you open the Epstein
(30:12):
can of worms, then he's going to be fighting with
guys either from embarrassment fear of exposure. I mean, you
and I both know that there's not a lot of
angels in Congress. There are a lot of people with perception.
And then then you're going to start seeing. It just
opens up a lot of problems. It opens up problems
with your allies. Right, it opens up and it doesn't
(30:33):
mean you don't deal with it. But there's a lot
of crossover between Epstein and the current dysfunction of the
intelligence community and the sedition we're seeing. And if President
Trump wanted to, there's some issues that he could bring
to focus that would have the same effect of holding
those really bad people that are responsible for Epstein as
(30:55):
well as taking care of the people that are being
seditious traders. So you get a two fer and then
you quietly deal with what you know. It's not it's
it's the thing is this he you don't you don't
throw out you need this nation needs healing and which
is the only where this nation is going to be
healed by God. But it needs accountability. We need to
(31:20):
see accountability. And but you also have to explain to
the American people, look, we're in we're not blowing smoke here.
But at the same time, you don't destroy the nation
in the quest for to save the nation? Right, And
I think that you know, how do he's he's he's
one branch of three branches, right, And I can tell
(31:42):
you that. My guess is the legislative branch is probably
pretty deep in Epstein, and even probably some of the
judicial branch, at least the hey guy, I don't know,
but so you have to you have to. It's Gordian
Nott and and you need a lot of wisdom with it.
But you also need a lot of transparency with the
American people. And again this goes back to the kitchen cabinet.
(32:04):
I think if President Trump had the advisors telling him, sir,
this is everything you have, this is what my recommendations
is how I would bring this out to the American people,
Because I think the American people still trust President Trump
and they love him. He's something that what my boss
said before he passed, and he thought President Trump was
(32:25):
going to be elected, he died before he was. He said,
President Trump has something that only probably two other American
presidents have ever had, or three. He said three. He said,
he's the fourth president that has the trust of the
American people. He said the first one was George Washington,
(32:46):
the second one was Abraham Lincoln, the third one was
Ronald Reagan, and the fourth one is President Trump. There's
only been four that have had the trust of the
American people like, this guy's not here to screw me.
To make you know, President Trump is the only president
that's entered office that actually came out poorer than when
(33:07):
he went in. Every other president comes out.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
I will say Blake Farenthal came out poor if he
wasn't president.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
But I don't disagree.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
I mean, you can't not come out.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
I don't know, Well, that's a whole Ansley knows he's
making a lot of money in Congress.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
No, if you're if you're if you're an honest person, yes,
and that.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
You don't have a patch over one eye and become
a great stockpicker. I don't know how it works whatever,
But no.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
You know, I I think everybody knows that there's a
lot to the Epstein.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Staff, right.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
I think people with rational intelligence also understands that at
least that it's complicated.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
That Epstein is not is not about sex. Epstein's about power, power, manipulation, influence, operations,
money moving. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
It's complicated, it's far grand or.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
I'm just gonna guess. I would say that Epstein probably
has a lot to do with women taking millions of
dollars and going and sleep with I don't know, generals
in the Pentagon. Yeah, and handing them money and sleeping
with them. Ergo, that gets taped and then said person
becomes compremis your puppet, you know it. I mean, can
(34:30):
you imagine if they had a congressman that visited the
island multiple times and they and he was filmed, and
then he gets placed at a very high level position,
like have some intelligence network or something, you know, and
then they then he's owned. I mean, I'm not saying
that happen, it is theoretically as possible. That's so, I know,
(34:54):
it's so. It's the thing is this, there are a
lot of women out there that are still around that
make a lot of people nervous because the Epstein thing
goes deeper. It goes deeper because everything is tied to
the financial system. They're tied to black Rock, They're tied
to Banguard, Banguard. But no, but I'm talking to leaders.
(35:18):
Oh yeah, and they're also these women know about a
lot of shenanigans that went on in the financial industry
because they weren't stupid and they were there. And so
you have that again, think about the president. You've got
leaders of vanguard leaders of black rot, people that own
all the companies, that control all the money to all
the donors. So think about this. You're literally taking on everything.
(35:41):
So how do you do it? Because if you just
dump everything, you've got Congress against you, the judiciary against you,
because they're scared and they're compromised. A lot of them,
the money against you, and probably some of your closest
friends that you don't even know about, are compromised. And
so then it becomes and it becomes a distraction to governance.
(36:04):
Now there's ways to deal with it quietly and with
and with prudence and im And I'm not saying anyone
gets to pass, because I think it's pure evil. But
we need to understand us in nation. We have fallen.
We have lost our moral compass, like the Founders talked about,
like I brought up in the beginning, and if we
don't get back to virtue, and that's not puritanical virtue,
it's virtue and understanding right and wrong. It's you know,
(36:28):
Alexander Datokville, when he came to the US after the
revolution in France, where literally everyone got their heads cut
off after the revolution, he wanted to understand he's a sociologist.
He wanted to understand why we didn't kill everyone after
our revolution and he and I'm just paraphrasing here, but
his he wrote two books, Democracy in America, two volumes,
(36:49):
and they all were centered around the power in America's
preached from its pulpits because there are moral people and
America is great. Because America is good. They have laws
that tell him what they can do, and they have
morals that tell them what they can't do. The problem
is Washington is like a magnet for people without morals. Yeah,
(37:10):
I mean, like literally, you know, if you don't have
ear polarities, Jack Morley, you're attracted because.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
It attracts people who want power.
Speaker 7 (37:18):
I have ego and you know, but.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Which is a problem.
Speaker 6 (37:24):
I mean, I think in every country.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
But you know, you're right.
Speaker 6 (37:26):
Historically America has been insulated from that.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Because because they've had a basic moral backbone. But we're
living off the grace of the people that came before
us because we haven't been more. I mean, think about this, DeBie.
You and I grew up where you grew up in
the eighties. Okay, arguably the greatest that there's decade ever,
best music, best everything, just saying yeah, rock. But but
(37:51):
here's the thing. You remember something they called the moral
Majority that was very popular. Oh, yes, they watched the
movie with Tom Hanks and he's just a total slimeball.
But Charlie Wilson's war. Yeah, Now, I spent over a
decade in Afghanistan, So I met and worked with a
lot of people that worked in Afghanistan in the eighties.
(38:12):
And my boss was involved in a lot of that,
and he would tell me Charlie Wilson was just a
crazy man from East Texas. But he said Charlie Wilson
was fearless. He said he didn't owe anyone anything, was
afraid of nothing. In Congress said Charlie Wilson had one
fear his constituents. He said, the moral majority. He said,
(38:33):
you never upset the moral majority. He says, whatever you
do behind closed doors, you do behind closed doors. But
you don't do anything that pushes that forward and upsets
the moral majority. So by definition, it kept a lot
of these congressmen in check that. You know, there were
some guys that were at least attempting and pushing on
the righteous side. But what happened is we lost our
(38:56):
culture was captured. As Yuri Besmanov talked about, we were
just completely subverted through the institutions, the schools, everything, and
then you have fast forward to today. Can you imagine
being in the eighties and someone telling you that a
girl was a guy and a guy was a girl.
Now and I can't even I mean they were an
(39:16):
eight year old. Yeah, I mean, aren't baby god guys.
And here's the thing, we're going to lose that institutional memory.
I mean, when I went to school, you didn't have
kids fighting screaming at teachers because you got your butt
lit up with the paddle that was sitting by the
teacher's desk had holes cut in it, thick wood and
would literally leave blisters on your ass. And you would
(39:38):
go home and your parents wouldn't go, oh, I'm gonna
yell to the teacher. They would paddle with you again. Yeah,
I mean it. So it was like there was discipline
and it was an abuse. Kids are dying for discipline today,
I agree. And then you say you don't have any
disciplined kids, and then you have people in college looking
for safe spaces. Went back in nineteen forty two, you
(39:58):
had kids that were like lying about their age not
to go drink, but to go fight overseas. They got
they're gonna die.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Yeah, But now you have kids that are eighteen that
that completely come and glued if you use their wrong pronouns, right,
my pronouns are I don't give a crap. So you know,
it's we've become a nation that has been completely captured
by the culture. And it's not our national it was
not our founding culture. So that's why you get in
(40:29):
and you have to destroy statues, you have to tear
down history, you have to rewrite history. Chinese did it.
It's a famous communist thing. They Chinese call it the
Four Olds. I mean Stalin did it, Mao did it.
But both of those communist leaders ended up with millions
of people dying. And I don't believe America is there yet.
(40:52):
But I believe that if we don't have a serious
return to first principles, I don't think we will be
probably sooner or later, cutting down.
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Speaker 4 (03:02):
Now, if we had a normal society, when Colbert would
be the actual material that late night comedy people would
make fun of you.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yes, I mean he would be a skit on Saturday
Night Live. I'm the subject of a skit that he
would be in it. But we've lost our ability to
have comedy. I mean, if you want good comedy, you
have to go twenty years ago. Yeah, that and when
comedians were funny, because if you look at it, in politics,
(03:35):
there's a new rule like tell me one time someone
made fun of Joe Biden. Think about that one for
a second. They couldn't make fun of him directly because
they were told they couldn't. These aren't comedians, these are
these are basically gestures in the court that are told
who and who they cannot and what they're allowed to
make fun.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Apparently, and apparently it was Barack Obamaba and the puppeteer,
as we're are now finding out with all the Russia
Russia Russia hosts.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
This is not new news. I've been talking about. Well, no,
I'm not saying.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
But we've got verification and validation.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Well, you know, we a lot of US conspiracy. Yeah,
a lot of US knew about those meetings they had
before Trump came into office. In fact, I was part
of a team that wrote up over over a thousand
pages of material and hand delivered it to Bill Barr's
people of the actual documents, and magically enough, no one
(04:32):
did anything with disappointment, sir, when we realized Bill Barr
the only thing that he did successfully was hit the
Chinese buffet continually in d Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Yeah, he's a very very.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
All you can eat well he's he's a man that
lacks any integrity and and and I say that with
all no respect. The thing is he everyone's such a
good guy. The guy has the Bible says you know
them by their fruit. This guy's had bad fruit, so
bad fruit, bad route. I mean, he came from a
(05:04):
bad place. And it's sad because we should self correct.
And what happens now is we are on very tenuous
ground and in a new world. As far as the
fact that I don't believe the American people have deteriorated
(05:25):
as much as the American government has, no one trusts them.
They've lost the confidence in the trust of the American people.
President Trump hasn't, but the government has.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
So this has always been my deal. You know, people
scream for term limits, term limits, term limits. They sound
great and on the surface, I don't disagree with term limits. However,
if you're not going to clean house below the elected,
then you're never going to a term limits are in effect, Well,
(06:00):
they're in an effective tool. You should not be able
to work for the government for more than whatever.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
One hundred percent. Well, the thing is Turnlamits just term
limits only applied to the president. So what that means
is you grow an organism deep and the president keeps
getting changed out. Now, the founders Madison Jefferson Washington, Franklin,
(06:29):
all those, all the founders, I mean, if you read
their writings, they had an over arching theme. I mean,
there are literally just just Google Founders quotes on virtue.
And what the founder said essentially was if you lost virtue,
and for the audience, virtue meaning the ability to self govern,
(06:51):
govern yourself with morals. Not that you were priggish, not
that you were like this overly pious person, but someone
that understood good, that right is right and wrong is wrong,
and especially as it pertained to our government. And they said,
if we lose those and I'm just I'm just summarizing here,
(07:13):
if we lose virtue, we're not going to be able
to govern. This system will not work for an unvirtuous,
immoral people, correct, And so we have become an unvirtuous,
immoral people in Washington, d C. Washington, d C has
literally become the island of misfit toys. Now they don't
(07:34):
understand that, but the rest of the American people do.
And that's why we had President Trump get elected by
such an overwhelming margin, even when they tried to cheat
and do everything else. What you're going to find out, though,
as you found out about Barack Obama. As you're finding
out about Comey, as you're finding out about John Brennan,
you're going to find out that the cheating and the
twenty sixteen election went way past our twenty twenty election,
(07:58):
went way past what most people in stand. You got
someone like Tina Peters, who's in prison right now for
pointing out the obvious, a gold star mom in Colorado
who should be released immediately.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
Well that's the thing, and that that was gonna be.
My next point is none of this means anything if
something doesn't happen to John Brennan, James Comey, Peter struck
lesa page, the rest of.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Let me let me throw us some more names for you.
Well you know, okay, whom Abdeen, Michelle Forna, Victoria Neiland, Yes.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
All those people, if we don't hold them accountable, When
Steve Bannon rotted in prison for what six months whatever?
When uh Paul Maniford, all the rest of us, all
the rest of them, and if we're going to do
one for one, if I'm telling you, if nobody goes
(08:55):
to jail over any of this stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Well, let me let me explain something to your audience,
because is number one, you will never ever see John
Brennan on trial. I'm going to tell you why John
Brennan was the Director of Central Intelligence. No DCI will
ever be brought to trial because they have too much
information on the country. You can't. But there are remedies
(09:21):
to John Brennan, John Brennan, the President has certain remedies
for these bad state actors, right and these guys have
committed from what I understand and what I have seen,
treason what I know, and there's ways that the President
(09:41):
and their remedies under Title fifty, under Title eighteen of
the espionajack to deal with that. Because what I hope
everyone understands is we are at an inflection point in
history like the likes we've never seen. There's I remember
when I first started my career in intell just decades ago,
(10:02):
and one of my mentors said, if you stay in
this long enough, you're gonna learn things you wish you
never learned. You're going to understand things that are gonna
really challenge you as far as just keeping your sanity. Now,
if it wasn't for my faith in Christ, I would
I would be in a rubber room right now with
(10:24):
what I've understand and know, but I want to encourage
people because right now I don't see a way forward
in our nation unless we go back to first principles,
and that's going back to God, that's going back to truth,
that's going back to morality. My boss, God rest his soul.
(10:46):
Dewey clarities to say, sunshine is the best disinfectant, and
we need a lot of light to bring to this
situation because what you're seeing, the Russian collusion, that is
the kid of the iceberg. That's not even that's not
even the iceberg that's like a floating chunk of ice
(11:07):
in the sea. There's a bigger iceberg. And I believe that,
and this is my personal opinion. I believe President Trump
is a one in a century man and was created
for this time. I agree he The trouble is he's
not getting all the information he needs to govern effectively
(11:31):
because I believe that there are people even in his
inner circle, that do not have the focus of his
agenda in his best interest, and that's a tough thing
to deal with. I think the President probably intuitively understands
that and knows that.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
But oh I think he learned that lesson in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Well, I think there's still people know, but there's still people. See.
Here's the thing. When President Trump was attacked with lawfare.
In intelligence and military, you have orders of battle, you
have you have the same thing in what we call
covert action or espionage or information operations or what you
(12:14):
want to call it. And first of all, you have
first order effects. That's what it is primarily intended to do.
And so the lawfair against President Trump first order effects
were to keep him busy, during him financially, try to
try to not only bankrupt him, but if they get lucky,
you put him in prison. Use that law fair, try
(12:34):
to degrade his public, the perception the public has of him.
Those are first order effects. Second order effects and third
order effects are put him on his heels. And then
you don't know if you can beat him because they've
never been successful against you. I mean someone has to
sit back and go, man, doesn't matter what we throw
(12:55):
at this guy, he always beats us. And so what
you do is you insinuate people in his inner orbit.
I would run attorneys into his orbit that help him
be successful during those law fair times, right, I would
run in people to support him through his darkest days,
so he really trusts them, He'll lean on him and
(13:17):
make them successful. May make make them successful through well,
we have the cat in the studio, Yeah, the cat.
We are we are completely animal friendly here. That makes
them successful in the as far as he would trust
(13:38):
them and lean on them because he's been attacked by
so many people. So then you have these people that
are essentially access agents into the president. And then when
he if he is successful, he's going to trust these
people and you can use them to undermine him later
once he's in the oval office. And I can probably
identify a few of these people and people that he's appointed.
(14:01):
And that's not on President Trump. He is brilliant, but
no one can pick out these people. That's why you
have to have what Ronald Reagan had. And I've talked
about this several times. I believe the president needs a
kitchen cabinet. Ronald Reagan had one. No one ever hears
about it because you shouldn't. And a kitchen cabinet is
a group of people, usually old timers or older guys
(14:25):
from the intelligence services that come back that don't want
to be known, that tell the new president, sir, this
is Title fifty. That's a foreign intelligence Act. These are
your authorities, this is what you can do. These are
your abilities. At the same time, they give him the
(14:48):
questions to ask, because President Trump needs the questions to ask,
and they can tell him, sir, this is how the
system works. You can bring the system, the US government
to heal if you understand the processes and how it works.
It's like this with every new Congressman when they come out. Yeah.
But the problem is if you get managed, meaning someone
(15:10):
gets you, and what they do what we call in intelligence,
they mushroom you, which means they put you in the
dark and they feed you poop. Doesn't matter who you are,
you're not going to ask the right questions, you're not
going to understand the processes, and it takes you a
while to get your bearings and be able to govern.
And now President Trump has gotten a ton of stuff done.
But if you had a kitchen cabinet, see, the system won't.
It's a lot of people will hesitate to actually lie
(15:32):
to the president, but they won't hesitate to not tell
him right, the truth, the liable, the live of omission,
it's omission or comission, and you have to watch that.
So I think that is where President Trump could really
use his authorities.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
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us about this morning, which is something I completely completely
believe and understand.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
And I'm fascinated by go ahead, manday anything you got
over there.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
That you see lead.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
I need new glasses.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
It's really gotten really bad. It's gotten really bad. I
need new glasses.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Let's see.
Speaker 6 (16:59):
I think one of the major issues of government, and
I don't know how you can fix it, is it
wasn't supposed to be a full time job. You were
just supposed to go every once in a while, kind
of like in Texas.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Well it is. And the thing is, government attracts two
types of people. And let me step back for a second.
If people want to understand our government, you need to
understand what it's supposed to look like and what it's
supposed to do. That's when I'm going to segue back
(17:28):
to where I talked about the kitchen cabinet. Unless you
understand how things are supposed to work, it's really hard
to make them work. And so you get guys inside
a government, state government, local government. They get their feet
on the ground and they get time to what I
just call metastasize into the different positions and they know
(17:49):
how to manipulate the process. And if they don't have
virtue and they're not there for altruistic reasons, then it
can become a tool of very self serving people. Though,
say like people get on the council so they get
more business for their title companies, or they get you know,
they they get in a certain position so they can
(18:11):
get contracts and you know, get their friends' contracts to
build schools that we desperately need. Maybe not sort of,
but who knows. I don't know, but you take it
to a larger level in a national level, and you
get people inside of Congress who the only way you've
become successful in Congress is you have to make deals.
(18:33):
You have to you have to be a tool of
k Street. And so the way that you fix these
problems is a root and branch action. You have to
tear it out by the roots and the branches. And
I do believe President Trump is that guy. But the
way you do that is you catch them where they've
(18:55):
overstepped like never before and by God's grace, and that's
literally what it's going to take to fix these problems.
You have so much dysfunction and moufeasance inside the Beltway
that you literally it's like shooting It's like shooting fish
in a barrel. You're going to have to have to
(19:16):
pick and be strategic and how you're going to take
care of these folks, and you know that that takes wisdom,
and we're going to need a lot of wisdom to
deal with that.
Speaker 6 (19:27):
Yeah, And I think what my mom was getting at
earlier too, is even if you let's say we talk
about different people that you elect into government that then
go and they're there for the wrong reasons and you know,
to get business for their own companies. Then the problem too,
those if you get the right person in office, you
still have the same staffers applying for the same jobs.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Well that's that goes back to the intelligence side of this.
They're managed assets. Most congressmen are managed assets. They get
in and they are told, this is going to be
your chief of staff, this is going to be who
you are, who you get Oh wait wait, I'm going
to show you how we do it here. Yeah. So
congressmen get in and they're they're completely surrounded and managed.
(20:13):
I made a recommendation a while back. I think that
there should be an off site weekend for incoming congressmen
where they learn literally it's an intense weekend. You take
them out to a resort, you take them out somewhere fun,
let them bring their wives, spend time with their families,
and you start explaining to them how Washington works, this
(20:36):
is what and it's literally an intelligence weekend to educate
them on this is how you're going to get played,
this is how you're going to get attacked.
Speaker 7 (20:43):
This is what it would fare right into the orientation
because they have I remember when Dad first got elected.
They have all sorts of orientations been on by all
sorts of people. I sat in on the Heritage Foundation one,
but it was you know, how to be a constitutionalist
and things like that. Nothing about, like you're saying, the
inside game and how it works.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
But this is a thing. Yeah, they basic stuff. Don't
go to Cafe Milana, where there's more internal mics than
anywhere on the planet that every intelligency in the world
has micd up. I wouldn't go there, probably to have
it there serious conference. But this is.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
A my my concern with that. I think that's an
excellent idea, but it's who's running it, because most of
the people running those things have their own agenda anyway,
and they're pushing they're pushing the pavelot again.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
That's where he comes in. The kitchen cabinet. Yeah, now
I didn't make that. I'm not the genius that came
up with I'm not a genius. First, everyone knows that
who lives in Corpus CHRISTI. The person that came up
with the kitchen cabinet happens to be one of the
guys that I used to work for, and so I
understood the kitchen cabinet, because the first kitchen cabinet was
(21:54):
used with Ronald Reagan after he came in after Jimmy Carter.
Now wasn't as bad as coming in after the people
that stood up Joe Biden because I don't really say
Joe Biden, because Joe Biden didn't even know that he
was president, probably, But the kitchen cabinet came in and
gave Reagan the questions to ask. And that's why you
(22:15):
see these great videos of Ronald Reagan with people in
his office and he's asking him these questions and he's
just I mean, there's like a library of Reagan videos
of him and people are like, gosh, that is so
much common sense. Well, he had his kitchen cabinet. I
happened to know several people that were on that kitchen cabinet,
and I'm not at liberty to say, but I can
tell you that they were all patriots. They didn't want anything.
(22:38):
Because you don't know the members of the kitchen cabinet,
there's no you get no benefit for being in the
kitchen cabinet. You're giving the president the questions to ask
to bring the system to heal. Right, Now here's the
challenge we face in our nation. The biggest root cause
of what's going on right now. All the problems we're
seen in Washington, DC are coming from rogue members of
(23:00):
the intelligence community, former and current. And this is why
the intelligence community is the link to any type of
financial resources, I mean big financial resources. The agency has
more banking relationships, more black money pots. I mean, you
could do a year shows on that, but then you'd
(23:21):
probably be put in jail for breaking not disclosures. Second
thing is the intelligence community has They are trained and
understand personalities and covert action. So these are the folks
that are setting you up. And they also have the
links to other intelligence agencies around the world, so they
can talk to other nations spy services, and they can
(23:47):
coordinate international covert action. So let me give you one
small example of what I just said. You had Barack Obama.
This is all now now using John Brennan, who was
his second term. John Brennan was the Director Essential Intelligence
(24:08):
first term. They knew they couldn't get John Brennan pass
confirmation until Obama seeded the government with his people. So
John Brennan was in the I believe this in that
he was working for the Department of Homeland Security. But
what Brennan did is Brennan had eight years of eight
years of Obama to run out every intelligence professional that
(24:33):
did it he didn't like or wouldn't go along with
what he wanted, and he seeded the entire intelligence along
with General Hayden, along with James Clapper, the Seal because
he just flaps his hands. These guys have the ability
to get in there and just completely seed and destroy
the intelligence community. Then, I mean, and I can tell
(24:58):
you they did from being told this community from being
an effective tool to keep this nation safe, and they
turned it to an internal mechanism to keep and maintain
personal power and ideological power for whoever they deem they
want to do that. They also built up relationships with Russia, China, England,
all these other intelligence communities, and the one with England.
(25:20):
They used England and they used the GHQ, I mean,
which is the essay part of England. I believe you're
going to see if it ever comes out, that they
used these relationships and then they created an intelligence product here.
But they had the folks the intelligence community in England
quote discover said intelligence product that we created. That's what
(25:43):
it's called circular intelligence, and then they report it back
to us. So then we're just coming in and Koumi's
just coming in and reporting this is what we're hearing
from our foreign people. That's like giving them a picture
and then them calling us and go, we discovered this
picture in one of our intelligence collections when we were
we're monitoring Russia. Oh no, we handed you the picture,
(26:03):
and you're telling us what we want to hear, right, So,
and that's an oversimplification, but that's what they do. They
do circular reporting. They have all the relationships with the media.
Don't forget Operation paper Clip. Everyone go up and educate
yourself on all these things as far as what they
do and how they control the propaganda. And so you
have guys that really specialize in covert action doing it
(26:24):
on American soil, which is sedition and treason. But that's
a problem, and that's where I think President Trump has
not been effective yet. He has to get control of
the intelligence community. He has Tulsi, but Tulsi was never
an intelligence boss now and they need to get someone
in there that's been an intelligence boss. Those guys are
all retired, but I know someone would come back and
(26:47):
that know how to can give him the kitchen Cabinet report.
And they need to put someone in the office next
to him so he knows what's happening and how it's happening.
But John Brennan had unfettered access to promotions, built up
a cabal of people literally, and they are using it
to undermine the president. And also here's a bigger problem.
(27:08):
John Brennan voted for the Communist Party in like seventy six.
Gus Hall, who was a prominent member of the Communist Party,
I remember it, and you know there when we caught
you had Aldert's aims, you had Nicholson, these Russian spies,
but there was still another man out there. Is it
possible John Britton Is that other man? I don't know,
(27:30):
But they need to bring someone back like John Maguire,
who I can't go into great detail, but John was
a senior SIS, senior Intelligence Services guy that worked under
Dewey clerics that knows the system. It would be these
guys' biggest nightmare and would support the president. That's what
I would do. I mean, I put John in the
(27:51):
office next to him, and John w J mister president.
This is how you do it and the president all
he needs to know is his options, and John give
him a whole list of options, and then they could
play some serious whack the mall and ultimately I think
that would end up with completely dismantling the agency and
building something new in a new Oss type model, which
(28:14):
is what we need in the beginning, because anything that
grows too big becomes ineffective, right, and that's pretty much
our entire government. But you know, you got to start
somewhere in the and the thing that keeps everything going
is the intelligence agency, and that brings you back to Epstein.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
Well that's why I was just gonna go, oh my gosh,
heat great minds. I was gonna go to Epstein talk
about it. They don't talk about it.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Okay, what are your thoughts on that? Okay, I'm gonna
say something that may be controversial, but that's a shock. Yeah,
the cat does not like Epstein. This is clearly anti
Epstein cat the intelligence community. I mean, Epstein is the
scalpel with dodgers. I know a lot about Epstein. To
(29:00):
the skeletons and the people, as everyone thinks, the episodes
of the skis.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
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Speaker 1 (29:11):
For whatever Rose talking about scalpel Edge dot com. But
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Speaker 2 (29:24):
Rose, because Jacksonville, I believe.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
That involved with Epstein, you're gonna have a lot of
intelligence services, a lot of our ally intelligence services. This
is just my thumbnail. I mean my you know, licking
my finger and stick in the wind. I imagine it would
affect over half of Congress from the Senate in some way.
I'm not saying with children, but relations they may, they
(29:50):
may some We may have a lot of Congressmen, even
Republicans that made it to the island to go mess
around with girls that they should enough. But it's gonna
President Trump is already fighting a guerrilla warfare with the
intelligence community and the deep state. He's right fighting a
rearguard action now, and he doesn't really have a lot
of ic people helping him. If you open the Epstein
(30:12):
can of worms, then he's going to be fighting with
guys either from embarrassment fear of exposure. I mean, you
and I both know that there's not a lot of
angels in Congress. There are a lot of people with perception.
And then then you're going to start seeing. It just
opens up a lot of problems. It opens up problems
with your allies. Right, it opens up and it doesn't
(30:33):
mean you don't deal with it. But there's a lot
of crossover between Epstein and the current dysfunction of the
intelligence community and the sedition we're seeing. And if President
Trump wanted to, there's some issues that he could bring
to focus that would have the same effect of holding
those really bad people that are responsible for Epstein as
(30:55):
well as taking care of the people that are being
seditious traders. So you get a two fer and then
you quietly deal with what you know. It's not it's
it's the thing is this he you don't you don't
throw out you need this nation needs healing and which
is the only where this nation is going to be
healed by God. But it needs accountability. We need to
(31:20):
see accountability. And but you also have to explain to
the American people, look, we're in we're not blowing smoke here.
But at the same time, you don't destroy the nation
in the quest for to save the nation? Right, And
I think that you know, how do he's he's he's
one branch of three branches, right, And I can tell
(31:42):
you that. My guess is the legislative branch is probably
pretty deep in Epstein, and even probably some of the
judicial branch, at least the hey guy, I don't know,
but so you have to you have to. It's Gordian
Nott and and you need a lot of wisdom with it.
But you also need a lot of transparency with the
American people. And again this goes back to the kitchen cabinet.
(32:04):
I think if President Trump had the advisors telling him, sir,
this is everything you have, this is what my recommendations
is how I would bring this out to the American people,
Because I think the American people still trust President Trump
and they love him. He's something that what my boss
said before he passed, and he thought President Trump was
(32:25):
going to be elected, he died before he was. He said,
President Trump has something that only probably two other American
presidents have ever had, or three. He said three. He said,
he's the fourth president that has the trust of the
American people. He said the first one was George Washington,
(32:46):
the second one was Abraham Lincoln, the third one was
Ronald Reagan, and the fourth one is President Trump. There's
only been four that have had the trust of the
American people like, this guy's not here to screw me.
To make you know, President Trump is the only president
that's entered office that actually came out poorer than when
(33:07):
he went in. Every other president comes out.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
I will say Blake Farenthal came out poor if he
wasn't president.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
But I don't disagree.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
I mean, you can't not come out.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
I don't know, Well, that's a whole Ansley knows he's
making a lot of money in Congress.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
No, if you're if you're if you're an honest person, yes,
and that.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
You don't have a patch over one eye and become
a great stockpicker. I don't know how it works whatever,
But no.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
You know, I I think everybody knows that there's a
lot to the Epstein.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Staff, right.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
I think people with rational intelligence also understands that at
least that it's complicated.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
That Epstein is not is not about sex. Epstein's about power, power, manipulation, influence, operations,
money moving. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
It's complicated, it's far grand or.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
I'm just gonna guess. I would say that Epstein probably
has a lot to do with women taking millions of
dollars and going and sleep with I don't know, generals
in the Pentagon. Yeah, and handing them money and sleeping
with them. Ergo, that gets taped and then said person
becomes compremis your puppet, you know it. I mean, can
(34:30):
you imagine if they had a congressman that visited the
island multiple times and they and he was filmed, and
then he gets placed at a very high level position,
like have some intelligence network or something, you know, and
then they then he's owned. I mean, I'm not saying
that happen, it is theoretically as possible. That's so, I know,
(34:54):
it's so. It's the thing is this, there are a
lot of women out there that are still around that
make a lot of people nervous because the Epstein thing
goes deeper. It goes deeper because everything is tied to
the financial system. They're tied to black Rock, They're tied
to Banguard, Banguard. But no, but I'm talking to leaders.
(35:18):
Oh yeah, and they're also these women know about a
lot of shenanigans that went on in the financial industry
because they weren't stupid and they were there. And so
you have that again, think about the president. You've got
leaders of vanguard leaders of black rot, people that own
all the companies, that control all the money to all
the donors. So think about this. You're literally taking on everything.
(35:41):
So how do you do it? Because if you just
dump everything, you've got Congress against you, the judiciary against you,
because they're scared and they're compromised. A lot of them,
the money against you, and probably some of your closest
friends that you don't even know about, are compromised. And
so then it becomes and it becomes a distraction to governance.
(36:04):
Now there's ways to deal with it quietly and with
and with prudence and im And I'm not saying anyone
gets to pass, because I think it's pure evil. But
we need to understand us in nation. We have fallen.
We have lost our moral compass, like the Founders talked about,
like I brought up in the beginning, and if we
don't get back to virtue, and that's not puritanical virtue,
it's virtue and understanding right and wrong. It's you know,
(36:28):
Alexander Datokville, when he came to the US after the
revolution in France, where literally everyone got their heads cut
off after the revolution, he wanted to understand he's a sociologist.
He wanted to understand why we didn't kill everyone after
our revolution and he and I'm just paraphrasing here, but
his he wrote two books, Democracy in America, two volumes,
(36:49):
and they all were centered around the power in America's
preached from its pulpits because there are moral people and
America is great. Because America is good. They have laws
that tell him what they can do, and they have
morals that tell them what they can't do. The problem
is Washington is like a magnet for people without morals. Yeah,
(37:10):
I mean, like literally, you know, if you don't have
ear polarities, Jack Morley, you're attracted because.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
It attracts people who want power.
Speaker 7 (37:18):
I have ego and you know, but.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Which is a problem.
Speaker 6 (37:24):
I mean, I think in every country.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
But you know, you're right.
Speaker 6 (37:26):
Historically America has been insulated from that.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Because because they've had a basic moral backbone. But we're
living off the grace of the people that came before
us because we haven't been more. I mean, think about this, DeBie.
You and I grew up where you grew up in
the eighties. Okay, arguably the greatest that there's decade ever,
best music, best everything, just saying yeah, rock. But but
(37:51):
here's the thing. You remember something they called the moral
Majority that was very popular. Oh, yes, they watched the
movie with Tom Hanks and he's just a total slimeball.
But Charlie Wilson's war. Yeah, Now, I spent over a
decade in Afghanistan, So I met and worked with a
lot of people that worked in Afghanistan in the eighties.
(38:12):
And my boss was involved in a lot of that,
and he would tell me Charlie Wilson was just a
crazy man from East Texas. But he said Charlie Wilson
was fearless. He said he didn't owe anyone anything, was
afraid of nothing. In Congress said Charlie Wilson had one
fear his constituents. He said, the moral majority. He said,
(38:33):
you never upset the moral majority. He says, whatever you
do behind closed doors, you do behind closed doors. But
you don't do anything that pushes that forward and upsets
the moral majority. So by definition, it kept a lot
of these congressmen in check that. You know, there were
some guys that were at least attempting and pushing on
the righteous side. But what happened is we lost our
(38:56):
culture was captured. As Yuri Besmanov talked about, we were
just completely subverted through the institutions, the schools, everything, and
then you have fast forward to today. Can you imagine
being in the eighties and someone telling you that a
girl was a guy and a guy was a girl.
Now and I can't even I mean they were an
(39:16):
eight year old. Yeah, I mean, aren't baby god guys.
And here's the thing, we're going to lose that institutional memory.
I mean, when I went to school, you didn't have
kids fighting screaming at teachers because you got your butt
lit up with the paddle that was sitting by the
teacher's desk had holes cut in it, thick wood and
would literally leave blisters on your ass. And you would
(39:38):
go home and your parents wouldn't go, oh, I'm gonna
yell to the teacher. They would paddle with you again. Yeah,
I mean it. So it was like there was discipline
and it was an abuse. Kids are dying for discipline today,
I agree. And then you say you don't have any
disciplined kids, and then you have people in college looking
for safe spaces. Went back in nineteen forty two, you
(39:58):
had kids that were like lying about their age not
to go drink, but to go fight overseas. They got
they're gonna die.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Yeah, But now you have kids that are eighteen that
that completely come and glued if you use their wrong pronouns, right,
my pronouns are I don't give a crap. So you know,
it's we've become a nation that has been completely captured
by the culture. And it's not our national it was
not our founding culture. So that's why you get in
(40:29):
and you have to destroy statues, you have to tear
down history, you have to rewrite history. Chinese did it.
It's a famous communist thing. They Chinese call it the
Four Olds. I mean Stalin did it, Mao did it.
But both of those communist leaders ended up with millions
of people dying. And I don't believe America is there yet.
(40:52):
But I believe that if we don't have a serious
return to first principles, I don't think we will be
probably sooner or later, cutting down.
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