God's Assignment for Each of Us: Embracing Purpose and Responsibility

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Speaker 4 (02:25):
Welcome to the Scalpel. This is doctor Keith Rose.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
If you've been following the last several podcasts I've done,
you will see an overarching theme of real concern for
our nation. I have been, i guess, on a journey
the past several years, working seeing what's going on, trying
to help where I can, but also trying to identify

(02:49):
the root cause of why we are suffering as a nation.
As I've gone along this road, I've also been having
a lot of trials and tribut relations in my own life,
and ironically enough, a lot of my closest, dearest friends
have been going through a lot of just you know,
life's difficulties and trials. One person in particular I look

(03:14):
at as a second father. He is definitely my spiritual
father to both me and my wife is a gentleman
by the name of Kevin Leal. Kevin is a international speaker.
He is a prophet, He's a pastor. He's someone who's
very prophetic and someone that has walked with the Lord
for over fifty years. And as the Bible says, you

(03:37):
know them by their fruit. I've had the real blessing
of knowing Kevin now for over seven years. And I
will tell you that when I met him, I didn't
want to meet him. I heard he was speaking somewhere
and I was like, I'm not going to go listen
to that guy. And I remember God just grabbing me
saying you're.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
Going to go.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
And when I walked in and I heard him speak,
I can honestly say that my life, the life of
my family was changed, not from Kevin directly, but from
God working through Kevin. And he has amazing gifting. So
when I run into these problems that I'm seeing in
our nation, I'm seeing in my own personal life and
I'm seeing in others, I know that there's a movement

(04:23):
inside our country and inside and around the world right
now where we're under attack.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
Where I really believe that.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
This nation is under attack, and a lot of it
is pretty much our own fault. But we have you know,
we've had the death of Charlie Kirk, the death of
Vodie Bachmann, the death of a lot of great speakers
and leaders, and we've seen a lot of running shepherds

(04:53):
in the opposite direction, dropping their staffs as far as
church leadership.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
In my opinion, so so.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Right now we're at a point in our nation's history
where we're going to go one of two directions. We're
going to go in authority, in power, and in truth,
are we're going to go in tolerance, in narrative, and
in a state that could not only create our nation,

(05:21):
but it's really caused the entire world to course correct.
So with that light opening, welcome Kevin.

Speaker 5 (05:29):
It's good to be with you. It's always a pleasure
to be on your podcast. And one thing I really
admire that you're trying to blend the Kingdom of God
into holistically your business, your life. Like I tell people,
I said, I do not want an anointed ministry, and
of course Christian, look at you, the word annoying means empowered.

(05:51):
I don't want an anointant ministry. Wise, I wanted an
anointed life. And so the Hebrew people would never think
of this separation that I'm good over here, but I
can be medial careher. It's a holistic life. We're all
called to do one hundred percent. And so today it's
my pleasure to be with you, and I think that

(06:11):
if you're listening today, and I'm gonna encourage you to
share this with somebody, you know, God designed that we
have to receive ministry. Nobody has it all alone. You
have to receive ministry, and the inability to receive correct
ministry dooms you to stay a ministry midget, a moral midget,
an emotional midget. You have to receive ministry. That's why

(06:33):
we were born and placed in a home. And you
receive ministry supposedly from your father and your mother. And
God designed that you have a glorified father, a glorified mother,
and the word glorified just means more in the image
of God. So you have a glorified father, glorified mother,
and it produces glorified children. The opposite is demonized mother,

(06:54):
demonized father, demonized children. So we're seeing a lot of
the latter. And so the way that you change is
by receiving ministry. So today we want to receive some ministry,
want to release some and receive some and it's something
that will change your life forever, just change you. And
when you talk about seven years ago when you received

(07:14):
the ministry, yeah, God uses vessels and we're going to
talk about that today. And so a lot of people
are paralyzed because they don't know what God had designed
and how he had designed them to receive power and authority.
You as an individual were designed by God to move
in power, spiritual power and authority, spiritual jurisdiction. And the

(07:38):
failure to do that means you can have the answers
but never use them. And so we're going to talk
about receiving the ministry of power and authority this afternoon.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
Go ahead.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Well, that's fascinating you say that. I was on a
national podcast the other day, Untamed with Joel Altman, and
he's great guy, Joe Oltman, and we were talking and
I made the comment that I felt the president has
amazing powers and authority in our government, but I wasn't

(08:10):
sure that he had even been told all of his
powers and authority. And that had to do a lot
with foreign intelligence and his powers under Title fifty Kevin,
but also it had to do with the fact that
and I used this example, I said, if you are
the wealthiest man in the world, you have a billion
dollars in the bank, it's yours, it has your name

(08:33):
on it. But if you don't know where the bank is,
you don't know the account number, and you don't know
the password to get the money out. While technically it's yours.
You can't access it.

Speaker 5 (08:48):
Yeah, access is huge. You know, Jesus had a guy
that came up to him and asking what was the
most important scripture, And of course he answered the guy.
The guy answered the question. He says, to love the Lord,
your God with all your heart, mind, soul and strength,
and your neighbor as yourself. And so those are three commands.
The first one is love God, second one is love yourself.

(09:12):
Number three is love your neighbor. And the problem is,
if you don't love yourself the way God loves you,
you will love yourself incorrectly, and you will always treat
your neighbor incorrectly. And so when you look at the
ten commandments, it's designed the same way. The top four
or vertical get right with God, get right with man.

(09:33):
And if you don't obey the top four, you cannot
obey the bottom six. And so many people have right desires,
but they have no authority and power to do the
right thing. I'm going to say that again, many people
have the right desires. Morally, you have the right desires.
Philosophically you got the right desires. Even politically you got
the right desires, but you have no power inside of

(09:56):
you to do the right thing, because you got the
sequence of loving, go loving yourself, loving your neighbor out
of sequence, and so Jesus told him that's the right answer.
And then he said this, you're not far from the
Kingdom of God. And I would say that many of
your listeners today, they're not far from the Kingdom of God.
Usually just a few adjustments, a few steps will cause

(10:18):
everything to change. Where you're not far from the Kingdom
of God and you're in the kingdom. So hopefully that
there'll be something that will illuminate them today.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Kevin, you we've talked offline, and I've told you some
of my frustrations right with the work I do and
trying to get to the decision makers and influence them
and empower them. And it seems to be a lot
of times when you work at a certain level, people

(10:49):
will block you from getting the right information to the
right person. And I don't necessarily think it's from nefarious means.
Sometimes it is, but sometimes it's just they feel like
they know what's best and where our country sits right
now at this moment in time. I've seen a lot

(11:11):
of things that are that could happen and none of
them are good. And I always go back to scripture.
I always go back to the Bible because I was
taught that. I was taught that by you, I was
taught that by my father. And when I accepted Christ,
and I died to me, and I'm continually dying to me.
We talk about that a lot. I want to be

(11:31):
able to empower people, to get to people, but sometimes
you just feel like there's a blockage.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
What do you do? Well, it could be anything, and.

Speaker 5 (11:39):
Yet, well, one of the things that the scriptures say,
and let me just say this. If you're listening to
this podcast and you're thinking, oh, brother, they're talking about
the Bible, let me say the Bible is full of
God's immutable principles. Immutable means they can't change. When he
wrote in the Ten Commandments on stone, that means he's
a signal. These are not breakable commandments. They cannot be broken.

(12:04):
And so the way it works is we live in
a world system that's a design. So I want to
say something and I want you to echo it in
your head. I'm a design in a design, in a design.
In a design, God is a designer, and so God
has set these laws in the spirit or relational laws,

(12:25):
and he set the laws in the natural you know,
like gravity, and you know all those of their laws. Well,
you don't break God's laws. God's laws break you. It
just takes longer in the spiritual. And so one of
the big things that God tells you in the Book
of Proverbs is with all that you're getting, get understanding,

(12:46):
and then get wisdom. So he links understanding and wisdom together.
Wisdom must have understanding, and understanding must have wisdom. I'm
going to say it again. With all you're getting, get
understanding and wisdom. Wisdom can only operate an understanding, and
understanding requires wisdom to make the correct decisions. And so

(13:07):
no matter where you are, if you don't have understanding,
you don't have wisdom. You're going to be paralyzed to
some degree. And even though you have activity, it won't
turn out the way supposed to. God always works with wisdom.
And so if you want to elicit God's help, you
want God's angelic help, his power help, his financial help.

(13:28):
We've got to do it the way he does it,
which is I need your wisdom. Because God always works
in wisdom, and so he'll share his wisdom the Bible
says he will share his wisdom. And so you talk
a lot about politics, and a lot about government, a
lot about the frustrations. Well, there is a wise answer.
There is a wise answer, but it requires understanding. And

(13:51):
one of the things is when you have a lot
of understanding, which you do because of your background, but
if you don't have today's wisdom, then you're going to
be frustrated. And this is not the kind of wisdom
you can store up because there's there's an actively organic,
dynamic movement of nations and people. They're always changing. So

(14:12):
God can't give you a wisdom that has formula. A
lot of people have why sings. Those are formulistic. They
are what happened in the past, and why sings are
like a broken clock, they're write twice a day. I
don't want just why sings. I want on time, prophetic
wisdom of what to do right now with this person,

(14:34):
and it can change in twenty four hours. What he
tells me to do twenty four hours in the past
may not work right now because, like they say, you
never stand in the same river twice. Events are moving,
things are changing, and so the cry is I've got
to get understanding of current situations and divine wisdom. I'm
going to seek after what he's going to do, and

(14:56):
so he will do that to us, and so to
Some of the stuff I'm going to talk about today
is power and authority. And one of the biggest things
that makes you feel hopeless is who you feel powerless.
I just feel hopeless. But you're not powerless if you
have access. Like he was talking about the guy with
the money, he had it, but he didn't have access

(15:16):
to it. And what gives us access to God's power
and authority Number one is a relationship. Jesus doesn't have power,
he is power. Jesus doesn't have authority, he is authority.
Jesus doesn't have righteousness, he is righteousness. And I can
have accepted Christ in my life, but if I don't

(15:37):
have understanding of how He designed things to work, I'm
going to be helpless. I'll feel hopeless and helpless without
power authority. I will say it again, I will feel hopeless.
I will feel helpless. God always has wisdom, and some
of the wisdom of God is so amazing. Let me
tell you a wisdom story from God. I had a

(15:57):
pastor one time true story. I knew that I was
on the situation. He was trying to buy a piece
of property and there was a small congregation under three
hundred and they were trying to buy a piece of
property that was way beyond their means, but it was
ideal for where they wanted to be in the community,
and so and so forth. So he went to this

(16:17):
guy and he had eighty acres of this property. So
I like to buy ten acres of your property. We
want to build a church, and a guy laughed at him.
He says no. He said, I want to build a
hotel and a golf course and some houses, and I
have no desire to sell part of it. And he
laughed at him in the face. He said, well, if
you were going to sell it, how much you'd you
sell it for? And he said, if I was going

(16:39):
to sell that piece of property, it would be X
number dollars And a guy said, well, that's ten times
over our budget. So he says, well, I wasn't going
to sell it to you anyway. So they start praying
for God's wisdom and power. He gets a call from
this guy several months later and he says, hey, a pastor,
are you still interested in that proper, he says. He said,

(17:01):
I might be, but not at that price. He goes, well,
just let's come in and talk. So he is, what
made you want to sell this property? Guess what happened?
And we know that eagles are in dangered species. Somehow
on the corner property where he wanted to buy, two
eight eagles came and made it on a tree, and

(17:23):
it made that whole property where you couldn't build because
it was because of the presence of the eagles having
a nest there. It changed the zoning of the property
by you can't mess up with eagles. He said, well,
I'd sell this property to you. And he said, well,
because the pastor only needed a small portion, the eagles
couldn't see.

Speaker 4 (17:44):
He ended up buying the property.

Speaker 5 (17:46):
And as soon as he bought the property, guess what,
the eagles had their their eggs hatched the eglist and
the mother eagle they flew away. God said, an eagle,
some unbelievable simple thing. But it changed the term directory
of all had this guy was planning. And so there's
always some kind of situation like that that God rezones.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
He changes.

Speaker 5 (18:09):
He he does things to our advantage and the problem
Keith is that God is not proud. He many times
does things in this low level. You really got to
look to see it. God moves into fine prince sometimes
not bold headlines, and it's because he wants to get
the glory for that. And so I don't know who
you are today or where you are today. You may

(18:31):
feel helpless and hopeless because you feel powerless. You don't
have wisdmen. I feel the Holy Spirit coming. You may
feel hopeless and helpless, but you have access to divine
understanding and divine authority and divine solutions.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
You know.

Speaker 5 (18:52):
The one of the ways when I go to churches,
I say, most of you are listening to this teaching
without faith, because the way that you know you have
faith when you listen to Bible teaching is it immediately
moves you to seek, to ask, and to knock. It's proactive.
Christianity is proactive. I must seek, I must ask, I

(19:13):
must knock. Why the way that God designed us to
be on the earth, It demands us to seek, It
demands us to knock it. It demands us to ask.
And then people say rather unintelligent things and unwise thing
like well, God is sovereign, yes, but he has limited

(19:34):
his sovereignty. God has decided in his sovereignty he will
not do it without us, and we cannot do it
without him. God has decided in his sovereignty his plan.
He will not do it without us, and we cannot
do it without him. That means there's a partnership. And
so a lot of people understand why Jesus had to

(19:55):
come to the earth.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
Let me give an example.

Speaker 5 (19:58):
I want to read a couple of scriptures and I
want to bleed over to this hot topic called Christian nationalism.
And we have a lot of people that are you know,
they're decrying that, especially white people. They're Christian nationalists. Just
full of full disclaimer. I'm part black, I'm part white.

(20:20):
Part of my family traces its origins to a plantation
on the East Coast. I'm mixed, and so I did
my DNA test. I'm forty percent gone West African, I'm
forty percent European, and then I'm twenty percent whatever, and
so I have a mixture. So I'm not talking from
a position of race. I'm talking from a position of revelation.

(20:43):
I'm not talking from a position of race. I'm talking
a position of I have revelation about God's design, and
so in the scriptures, I'll just paraphrase it. In Genesis
chapter one, it says God said, I will give you
the is what he told Adam, I will give you dominion,
which means rule, authority, positional authority. He gave Adam the

(21:08):
position of authority, like you're my governor. And you found
that when Jesus came, there was a guy named Herod.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
He was the.

Speaker 5 (21:17):
Governor of the Romans. The Romans placed this non Roman
in the position of authority to take care of this area.
And so he said, Adam, I'm going to give you
authority to take care of the earth, you and your descendants.
And so when Adam sinned, if you know the Bible story,
he ate from the tree of the knowledge of good

(21:38):
and evil. Now remember it was good and evil. So
many times which you think is good turns into death
because the penalty was if you eat it, you will die.
What does death mean? I'm living against life. Death means
I'm living against life. So he ate the fruit. But
God never took back to the authority defective disease. Adam

(22:02):
and Eve now have authority of the earth. Is God
still sovereign yes, but he has already made a deal
with humanity that he's going to do it with them,
and we can't do without him. So fast forward, when
Jesus came. Why did Jesus have to come? And why
was he born quote unquote of a virgin. Well, we

(22:24):
know that when the father and the mother get together,
the nature of both of them or in that child.
So Mary carried the Christ. But the father was Father,
was Father God, And so Jesus is born.

Speaker 4 (22:39):
Why did he have to come to the.

Speaker 5 (22:40):
Earth because someone of the earth had to take authority.
He had to have the authority because he was a
son of Adam.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
It was the design.

Speaker 5 (22:51):
It was a design. And so when you get born
again you enter into the same thing. But whether you're
born again or not born again, you have this creation
mandate inside of you. Now go back to Genesis chapter one.
Just explain a lot of the things that are happening
in the earth, which is Adam and Eve were given
dominion or mankind was giving dominion. But dominion was only

(23:15):
designed to be exercised in the nature of God with
the glory. So when Adam and Eve's sin, they did
not lose the desire for dominion. They just lost a
character to exercise it.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
So they wanted dominion, but they're not under the glory
of God. It wasn't that it had to be a
flesh dominion.

Speaker 5 (23:37):
Still it became domination. And so if you look at
the history of the world, communism, socialism to talerentarianism, war lords,
they had this creation mandate to govern the earth. They
just and they still have the desire for dominion without
the capacity to exercise dominion the right way. One of

(23:57):
the big problems with socialism and communism is that they
somehow think human nature's changed. The problem with socialism, like,
you have this non wise person right now in New
York running and they are trying to say, I'm a
democratic socialist. Well, here's a problem with socialism. Number one,
it breaks five of the ten commandments at least. So

(24:21):
you can't break the ten commandments and have it be
God's will. Thou shall not covet no other gods before me,
don't steal, don't lie. Socialism does all that. It does
all that, and so God is not going to break
a commandment to fulfill the commandment. He doesn't do that,
so it can't be God. But the thing about socialism

(24:41):
communism is utopian and its desires, but it hasn't resolved
the issue of human nature. They haven't resolved the issue
of human nature. What I'm going to say today resolves
the issue of human nature. I must be born again.
Men are not born good, they're born bad. Babies are
born innocent, but they're born bad. Their nature has been corrupted.

(25:05):
What Jesus did not have that nature, and so he
could exercise dominion without the sin nature, so to speak
of the father, because God was his father. And so
today in this room, today, as you hear me, here's
the promise. If you feel hopeless and helpless, God has authority,

(25:26):
He has power, He has insight for you. Your life
can literally change with one prayer meeting, your life can
absolutely change. People buy lottery tickets. Could they want instant change? Well,
you can have instant change by connecting and have access
to the power, the wisdom and authority that God has

(25:47):
for you. And so we're just like Adam. We've been
given authority. Now we may not have as much authority.
You know, you may be over authority of your family,
authority over your own body, authority of your business. If
you're an elected official, you may have greater authority, but
you have some authority, and God designed that if you
use the authority that you have correctly, it increases.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
That's interesting you say this because if you go back
to the socialism and communism, the way they exercise their
dominion is by force.

Speaker 5 (26:18):
They promise, well, socialism promises no force, but it ends
up being forceful. Like this last administration. They lied, but
they were manipulating the social media companies. They were manipulation.
They were doing it by stealth, they were doing it
by deception. So socialism works by deception, where communism works

(26:39):
out by outright force. And socialism won't do it by
deception until it doesn't work, then they will go to force.
Then they'll go by force. But it starts off with
the dream. And Satan always comes to a person's dream,
and there's always a substitute for it. And so if
you're listening to me today and you say it, I
feel hopeless, I feel helpless, you'll have to if you

(27:02):
just learn how to access God's understanding, in God's wisdom,
and you get his power and his authority.

Speaker 4 (27:10):
And so I was going to.

Speaker 5 (27:11):
Just talk a little bit about Christian nationalism. I'm going
to read a scripture. It's in the Book of Acts,
and that's how God says that he designed humanity to live.
That there's in Acts, chapter seventeen, verse twenty six, and
twenty seven. It says, when I say he, I'm talking
about the Creator. He's a creator, He's a king. He's

(27:33):
a judge in the Old Testament. And he has made
from one blood every nation that were nation as Ethnos,
people groups to dwell upon the face of the earth,
and as determined. He has determined their pre appointed times
and boundaries of their dwellings, so that they should seek
the Lord in the hope that they may group for

(27:54):
him and find him, though he is not far from
each of us. So that tells me if he you
were born in America, you're in the design of God,
no matter how you got here. Americas are nations of immigrants, slaves,
people that came here against their will or by the will.
A lot of them got here missed many different ways.

(28:17):
But you're here now. So if God has you in
this nation by design, that you're here by design, He
has a purpose for you in this nation by design.
And so you hear the term Christian nationalism, Well, let's
just talk about nationalism before we put the Christian on it.

(28:37):
Just don't put the Christian on. Let's put the new
ord nationalism. Every nation when you go to the Olympics
and if they were a gold winner, silver winner, medal,
every nation when they pay play their national anthem, there's emotions.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
Why it's my nation, it's my nation.

Speaker 5 (28:59):
There's something in us that God designed for nationalism. I
tell you the family portrait in heaven. Every tribe, every tongue,
every race, every nation. You're going to know the national
identity of people when you get to heaven. It's how
God designed that. It was his plan. He likes diversity.

(29:20):
But God likes diversity. With meritocracy, you don't get a
past because you're a certain color. Everything is around meritocracy.
You can't have half holiness. He wants you to be holy.
He wants you to do it his way. And so
every single person has to have a nation. And so

(29:41):
here's what the left, or i'd say the devil in
that way, if I can make you hate the nation
that God puts you in, you have nowhere to originate from,
and it forces you to be in a tribe, not
a nation.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Right really hits you at your identity as far as
one of the anchors of your identity.

Speaker 5 (30:06):
Yeah, I am an American. It's a cultural thing. Like
whenever I lived in Europe, they could see I was
an American by just the way I walk, the way
I talked.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
They just when I was in Afghanistan, they could see
the way you sat in the car. Yeah, they didn't
have to see you. They could see your silhouette, the
way you were saying. Yeah, how you weren't European, you
were American. I mean, it's part of how God designed it.
And so first of all, God wants us to love
our nation and to glorify that nation, and to work
to make that nation the best it could be. And

(30:40):
so let's add the Christian element, whatever religion you are.

Speaker 5 (30:47):
I mean, I have no doubt that the Chinese loved
their nation. But there may be atheists, or the Japanese
loved their nation, and they may be Buddhist, but a.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
Lot of different gods in Japan.

Speaker 5 (31:02):
Yeah, in the saying, but what I'm getting to the
point that they love their nation because it's a cultural thing.
It's how they do things. God designed cultures. He designed those,
It says right here, he put them in predetermined places. Well,
if I happened to be a Christian, and many of
the founders and architects of of our founding documents were

(31:23):
a Christian, the great proportion of them are a Christian.
They came to America to find religious freedom.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Well, eleven hundred references to scriptures, eleven constitutions in the scriptures,
or I mean they looked at John Locke, and they
looked at creation, the separation of powers.

Speaker 5 (31:39):
They saw that in the scriptures.

Speaker 4 (31:41):
But what I'm.

Speaker 5 (31:42):
Saying is that this is an attack against your identity,
to make you not proud in a good sense, to
not stand up and be who you are, to take
away all your authority, to make you hopeless and helpless
and shut your voice. So I'm going to be an American. Like,
let me give an example how this works. My only

(32:04):
son in law is from Brazil. He's from the southern
part of Brazil. He marries my daughter, you know, twenty
five years ago almost, and so he was going back
and forth to Brazil trying to do a business. And
one day I said to him, I said, let me
ask you a question, are you more American or more Brazilian?

(32:26):
He had been here like twelve or thirteen years. I said,
do you dream in English or do you dream in Portuguese?
He said, I'd dream in English now. And so he
would say I am a Brazilian American. I said, no,
you have hit the tipping point. You're an American Brazilian.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (32:45):
We have black people of which I'm a part of.
They say I'm African American.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
No you're not.

Speaker 5 (32:51):
You've never been to Africa. You're an American African. If
you went to Africa, you.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
May not like it. It's a little lifent culture.

Speaker 5 (32:59):
And so I was talking to our friend Louise, who's
running for Congress, and I said, I said, are you
more American or you more Mexican? Because he was born
in Mexico. I says, quit saying you're a Mexican American.
Say you're an American Mexican. And he just started laughing.
He says, it's funny, I'm an American Mexican. You flipped

(33:21):
the script. You've identified this nation.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Well, it's interesting you say that, because the night before
Washington crossed the Delaware Right, and this is documented, he
had a conversation with his prayer partner, Benjamin Rush, who
was a surgeon. He was one of the sensors of
the designers, but also an officer in the Continental Army.

(33:45):
And he told him that night, he said, and they went,
and you could see in his letters afterwards he discussed this.
He said, put no one on watch tonight, but true Americans.
Washington went on to explain later in his writings that
he was telling Benjamin Russia's they were all identified as Americans,
but when he said true Americans, he wanted people that

(34:07):
understood that America was spiritual, not just a land mass.
Because remember they were birthing a nation. These guys didn't
have a long There was no American identity. It was identity.
Their identity was in Christ. Their identity in the founding
was the preaching of George Whitfield. Was the people that

(34:28):
where they realized that a small group of people, a remnant,
could take on the biggest machine in the world militarily
and defeat them, not with their might, but with God's providence.
And so what he was saying is, I want someone
on watch tonight that's not just going to be looking
for bad guys, but it's going to be praying for victory.

Speaker 5 (34:49):
Well, America and Israel have a lot in common because
Israel was started by God with one man. He was Chaldean,
but he he crossed over. The word Hebrew means he
that crosses over. And so it was a nation that
was created by God. Covenant nation, a covenant. They made
a covenant with God. Same thing with America. And that's

(35:13):
why they felt such a strong alliance and allegiance to
the model of how God started each I mean the Israel.
And so they came out of Egypt, they went into
seventy slaves, and they came out as about two and
a half million people. And it's amazing how how Moses
was was formed. He had an edict of death on him.

(35:35):
They put him in the basket and he was picked
up by the pharaoh's sister daughter or sister and pharaoh's daughter,
and he went to Faredro school till he was forty.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
He had basically a bachelor's administration administrative to nation building.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
Ah.

Speaker 5 (35:51):
The pharaohs were the governors. They were phara Of course
we had the top Favroe, but it would be like
a governor. And he was trained in government. He went
to a government school. Why God was going to use
him to birth a nation into wilderness. And so you
can have secular training with a spiritual purpose, right, And

(36:13):
let me just same with your your background. You would say,
well this background, no, no, no, but you are also going
to create something. And here's the hope of America. America
is not a race, it's an idea. If you go
back to nineteen forty one, the handbook that they gave immigrants,
same thing. It's a they say, America is not a race.

(36:37):
A color is an idea, color creed like Hebrewism, just
like the Israelites. It was an idea, it was an idea.
And so when they came out of Egypt, it wasn't
all pure bred Jews because those guys were sexual slaves.
So there was a lot of in bread. There was
a lot of breeding from the all kinds. But when

(36:59):
they came there, they made a covenant with God. They
were connected by covenant. And so what has happened in
America there's a type of connection by covenant to the
American ideal.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
And let me interject your segue two seconds, because right
now there is a huge controversy going on because in
Israel there's factions like here every place has and people
are like, well, I support Israel, but I don't support
Israel's government, And then you have churches going all in
say whatever Israel says, we do, and no one is

(37:33):
making the clear distinction.

Speaker 4 (37:35):
And this is what I tell people.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
When Joe Biden was President of the United States, I
did not support Joe Biden. I supported the United States
as a covenant nation, but I didn't support I mean,
I didn't go against him, but I did not support
the laws that he was passing, the decisions he was making.

Speaker 4 (37:51):
I thought they were poor. Same thing in Israel.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
You can have an Israeli government that is not following
a righteous path but still support the nation of Israel.
Without you don't have to say their government's great. And
we are so linear in our thinking or so unspiritual
in our thinking, and that's.

Speaker 5 (38:09):
Spiritual and we're unhistorical.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
Bingo.

Speaker 5 (38:11):
Yeah, because if you look back, we've had a lot
of bad presidents, We've had a lot of bad governors,
a lot of bad leaders. But the idea of the
nation is greater than the temporary reign of one person.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
It has been because we've been a covenant nation. But
I will say that I believe because of the failings
of the church in allowing sin not to be called out.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
We're suffering, isn't it.

Speaker 5 (38:37):
You know what I don't in this conversation. I know
sin is a big part, but where there is no vision,
people perish.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
That's true, they give up.

Speaker 5 (38:47):
We need to have the idea of the original idea
of America, the idea of what it was meant to be,
how it was meant to be formed of people that
wanted to live quote unquote free. But freedom takes responsibility.
Now I got to do something with my freedom. And
so if I don't hear the story, I mean, that's

(39:09):
why the Hebrew people have lasted so long, because they
have the Passover story they recited. They see, when you
become a Jew, you got to join the story. Even
if you're born in the Jewish faith, you're not a Jew,
yet you have to join the story. We have to
have people that join the American story.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
And that's one of the reasons that the left, the socialists,
the communists want to destroy our history. Because if you
can destroy the history, you can't if you don't know
the story, you can't.

Speaker 5 (39:41):
Join the story. Great line, if you don't know the story,
you can't join the story. And so like our friend
Lewis is running for Congress. He says, I have chosen
to be an American Mexican. I don't diminish my Mexican history, race, parentage.
But I've found that to be an American enhances my

(40:03):
Mexican history. It doesn't diminish my Mexican history because in
the American design I can become the best person I
could be on the earth because I have more opportunities
on and so forth. They want to destroy capitalism, which
is I mean, let me just say this, God's a capitalist.
How do you know that the foundation of capitalism is

(40:25):
the ownership of private property. When the Hebrews went into
the Promised Land, every family got family property in perpetuity
if they had lost it by mismanage it every fifty years,
there was a clause that says, your jubilee is going
back to the original landholders. So if I bought a
piece of property, I had to buy it pro rated.

(40:47):
So if I said I'm going to buy your property,
you can only buy it for the extension of the
time to the jubilee hit. So if I've been there
twenty five years, I could only buy twenty five years worth.
Because in twenty five years, the Jubilee kicks in. So
we know that God is a capitalist, that people got
their own property.

Speaker 4 (41:05):
And Heaven is meritocracy.

Speaker 5 (41:08):
You got it. It's a heaven is a gated community.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
It's the truth. And the thing is this.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
A lot of people, even believers, will hear this and
they're like, is that true.

Speaker 4 (41:18):
Well, it's because you didn't hear the story.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
They don't have to understand the original story that you
have to know is the Bible. If you understand the
story of Jesus, if you understand the story of the
Old Covenant, the Old Testament, the New Covenant of the
New Testament, then you understand your first truest identity in Christ.
And then people that understood that identity could form an

(41:44):
idea a nation that we have today that is literally
the greatest or has been the greatest nation in the world.
We have the one of the youngest nations.

Speaker 5 (41:56):
You know, we're only four percent of the world's population.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
But our institution has been there over two.

Speaker 4 (42:01):
Hundred almost two years.

Speaker 5 (42:03):
And in the average constitution gets changed every sixteen years.
Sixteen years, okay, it was around twenty years. So I'm
going to go to Luke chapter nine, verse one. I
want to talk about if you feel helpless and hopeless,
how to get out of that. In Luke chapter nine,
verse one, he called his twelve disciples, and I want
to say, who's ever listening here? I don't want you

(42:25):
to answer as a Christian, but as a disciple. Are
you a follower? A disciple, follower of Jesus. These are
the people he gave this to, not the pew sitters,
those that are proactive disciples. And he gave them power
and authority over all demons and the cure diseases. Described
disciple someone who has picked up their cross, and he said,

(42:48):
I will crucify anything in my life that God says
to crucify. The cross is not an ornament you wear.
It's a weapon that you use against your own self.
There are two crosses in the kingdom. Number one the
cross that Jesus dies on that takes me to heaven.

(43:09):
The cross I die on brings heaven to earth. I
have to crucify my animal nature. I've got to crucify
anything that's anti kingdom. I've got to bind it. I
got to crucify it. And so he says to then,
he said, I give you power and authority. The Greek
word for power is the word dunamus. It is a
spiritual power is the root of it. We like we

(43:33):
would say dynamite. It's explosive, supernatural power to cause supernatural
things to happen in the earth realm. This dunamous power
the blind to see the demons. It is a supernatural
ability that God gives a man. The next thing is
the word authority is the Greek word exusia. It means

(43:55):
to have a privilege, to have jurisdiction.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
To be born as a king, to.

Speaker 5 (44:00):
Have authority that's transferable. So he gives us these two things.
The mind power that can change earthly things. By spiritual dynamics,
power authority together that commands every disciple, you can change

(44:20):
your situation. And without that you can change your situation.
Now you can move and be a political Christian, you
can be a manipulative Christian. But God's best way to
change everything is he gives you power and authority. And
he said to those who who know the scripture says
that don't leave Jerusalem until you receive the power on high.

(44:45):
It's called the gift of the Father. And so you've
got to have this spiritual power. Most Christians have no power.
They just have philosophy and they don't know their jurisdiction.

Speaker 4 (44:57):
And that's why they get run over in DC.

Speaker 5 (45:00):
Yeah, so this is an individual thing. So for me
to have power means I got a spiritual dynamic in
my life that can change things. And then you have
the authority or the jurisdiction. Well, if I don't know
my jurisdiction where the Kingdom of God allows me to
be a disciple. So if I hear that you guys

(45:22):
are white nationalists, well I may be white, I may
be brown. And if you're brown or black, they say
you're you know that you're an Uncle Tom or you
know you're an Oriole black on the outside, white on
the inside, even though there's nothing about that that. I'm
just trying to be a godly Christian. I mean, why

(45:43):
would God say, pray for the leaders of your nation.
That's universal, That's not only for Americans. It's pray for
the leaders of your nation. And so when you understand
this next scripture, you'll understand why if I don't understand,
I've been given this authority and that God expects me

(46:03):
to do something with it and being proactive in your Bible.
Psalm chapter one, fifteen, verse sixteen. It's often quoted, but
very seldom understood. It's often quoted, but very seldom understood.
He says, it says that the heavens and the heavens
are the lords, but the earth he has given to

(46:23):
the children of men. He has given the authority to
the children of men. So we're expecting God to do
things that he's expecting us to do in communion with him.
So when I rail at the churches that the church, no, no,
it's individual Christians. It's individual Christians and government in the

(46:47):
educational system. You have access to power and authority. Are
you taking it? And we're waiting for God to do
something that God is waiting for us to say, Father,
what do I do?

Speaker 4 (47:00):
Seek? Ask and knock? Why?

Speaker 5 (47:04):
He's given us power and access, But he has given
the earth to the chrodren of men. That's why Jesus
had to come as a man. He could not exercise
divine authority without becoming a man because He's given it
over to men to govern into rule. And so many
times we don't pray. Prayer is a force that changes

(47:27):
earth to heaven. We have to declare things we have
to speak things. Christianity is a voice activated belief system.
I got to speak things into the earth. If Jesus
came and he never spoke to things, nothing would have changed.
And so we have people that are in positions in

(47:47):
this one truth. I have access to power, divine authority,
and you must have power experiences. The people who don't
have power experiences will never access that power. You've got
to have the memory of power experiences. Just like David
saw the Goliath and he remembered a power experience he
had with a lion.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
And in the story Yeah of the Bible is a
series of power experience.

Speaker 5 (48:13):
Every great man had a power at the burning Bush,
Joshua saw the Angel. There's always stories where people have
a power encounter. And here's what I would tell if
you're listening to this podcast, ask your God, your creator
for a power experience you will not use which you
don't know, you will not attempt to do what you

(48:35):
don't see is possible. And I can go back fifty
three years, hundreds and thousands of power experiences. Some of
them are so unbelievable in the natural. But we have
this authority because God has given the earth to the
children of men. When you get elected as an officer

(48:58):
of government, or you're a teacher, or whatever your authority is,
or whatever the realm of position, God has positioned there.
He's pushed you there unless you're actively rebelling against the
leading of God. If you're there, God expects you to
use your kingdom influence of parent authority. So I will
not let you take my nationalism away. I'm an American.

(49:21):
I was born in Louisiana in nineteen forty nine. You
cannot take my nationalism. Well, your government started with this
and had Okay, I will redeem it.

Speaker 4 (49:31):
I will be the.

Speaker 5 (49:32):
Generation that restores it. Well, it started with slavery. Okay,
I'm part slave. I will be the one that redeems it.
We got to think as redeemers, not that we're going
to hold it accountable for sins of two hundred and
fifty four hundred years ago. I will refer back to
the original American dream. I will restore the American dream.
I've got See, if I don't believe in it, I

(49:53):
can't restore it. I happen to be a Christian. And
the beauty of the American dream is that the best
idea winds the religion with the most power winds. But
if you neutralize me through multiculturalism and you say all
cultures are equal.

Speaker 4 (50:09):
No they are not. No they're not.

Speaker 5 (50:12):
In Exodus, Modses stands of us said there's only one
God on the earth. The rest of you guys are junk.
He basically says this is the only way. Well are
you Christians saying yes we are. And out of that
culture that he created. He said in Abraham, will all
the families of the earth be blessed? All cultures are

(50:35):
not good. All cultures have not the same value system,
the same moral systems. And so when I come to Christ,
if there's anything in my culture, this anti kingdom, I
got to kill it. Anything this for the kingdom is
kingdom neutral. I can let it live, food items and
dressing and so on and so forth. God wants different nations.

(50:57):
But if there's anything in the American culture, sure this
anti kingdom, which is a lot any laws or anti
kingdom like abortion, it got to go. It's got to go.
And so we've got to purge our nation from anti kingdom.
And it's only going to be kingdom people to do that,
and only if they get power and authority. I can

(51:19):
change the law, but I can't change your mind. They
made abortion of law, but it hasn't changed my mind
about abortion right.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
And the thing is we have lawmakers now making laws
that they themselves don't have the power to keep.

Speaker 4 (51:33):
No, personally, they don't.

Speaker 5 (51:34):
They don't, you know. Let me just say this, why
there's such a hateful spirit in politics our friends on
the left, the ones that believe in abortion. Let me
ask you a question. The Bible says to hate is
to murder. If I have hatred that British is the
spirit of murder. If you believe in abortion, do you

(51:58):
have to hate your unborn child to kill it? If
you hate abortion, if you pro abortion, do I have
to hate my unborn child to kill it? I mean,
you killed it. You killed it, so selfish killed it?
He said, this is an inconvenient time. So if I

(52:20):
committed an abortion, what spirit have I embraced?

Speaker 4 (52:23):
Murder?

Speaker 5 (52:25):
So if I will kill my own child, what will
I do to you? If I disagree with you this?
I disagree with being pregnant at this time, so I
kill it. If I disagree with your political opinion, but
I'll kill my own child, I'll kill you. It's a
spirit of murder all the way through this stuff. So

(52:46):
there's no way these people are ever going to be nice.
As long as I believe, I will kill my own child.

Speaker 4 (52:52):
How can I not.

Speaker 5 (52:53):
Transfer that hatred to anything else you disagree with? This
child came out an inconvenient time. I will kill it.
This child will not allow me to do what I
want to do selfishly, I will kill it. So if
I if I pass a law. That's why they hate
Christians so much. They hate Christians because Christians are against

(53:13):
their lifestyle and.

Speaker 4 (53:15):
They hate them.

Speaker 5 (53:16):
That's why they killed Jesus because of hatred. It was
a political murder. It was they said, he will take us,
he will take away our place in our nation. They
were going to be replaced. That's why they killed him.
And so knowing that, we have to realize what's the
spirit this behind this political hatred? A lot of it

(53:38):
is the spirit of murder. And you know what, cancel
culture is murder. Cancel culture is murder. I'll murder your reputation,
I'll murder your financial ability, I'll murder your relationship. I'll
murder your ability to make a money in a certain entry.
I will kill it. That's what it's a spirit of murder.

(53:59):
They can culture is a spirit of murder and operation
just not physical.

Speaker 4 (54:04):
There's no grace.

Speaker 5 (54:06):
They're not extending the same mercy that they want when
they have an issue. But it's a spirit of murder.
That's a spirit. It's the same spirit that came in
through canaan Abel.

Speaker 4 (54:18):
It's the same spirit. You know.

Speaker 5 (54:21):
I want to remove you.

Speaker 4 (54:22):
You're not going to replace me.

Speaker 5 (54:24):
And so we have people that are listening to me
today and God is saying, if you're hopeless and helpless,
there's a way out. You're not paralyzed, if you'll seek
and you'll ask, and you'll not I believe doctor that
God is going to release dreams in the night. Anytime
people are in darkness and they can't see the way forward,

(54:45):
God releases dreams in the night. It's an oxymoron that
God will talk to you. He will talk to you
in the night to help you live in the daytime.
It's his little joke. And so when you sleep tonight,
the creator who made you, I need a dream. I
need to find out my position. I need to have
an understanding and wisdom so I can change my world.

(55:10):
And if you were raised to hate your nation that
was the evil nation. Then we can change it. We
can change our nation, but we have to have an
ideal of what the nation was supposed to be. You know,
when they wrote the Constitution and the amendments, it was
in search.

Speaker 4 (55:28):
Of a better way. They came out of.

Speaker 5 (55:30):
A horrible political situation, the wars in Europe, all these
nations have been fighting for centuries. They said, we think
there's a better way. It's a promise, it is not
a formula. It is a promise of what can be
if the men submit themselves. And they had this sense
God has given us this time, this season, that the

(55:53):
earth has been given to men, and so as we
submit ourselves under the authority of Jesus Christ, true self government,
true self government. If you don't have self government, Christianity
and de mockery does not work.

Speaker 4 (56:10):
It will not work.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
And you say, I don't have anything to say, because
it's truth. We were at a point in time and
history where if we forget our past, will never secure
our future because of our story.

Speaker 5 (56:29):
But they want to take away our future. They want
to take our heroes away. They want to I mean,
everybody knows that all of our founding fathers had flaws, they.

Speaker 4 (56:39):
Had and they were human.

Speaker 5 (56:40):
But the problem is they want everybody to be perfect
in the past, else they cancel them. And if we
put an X ray machine on their life, they will
be disqualified. How did Nancy Pelosi get all this money
that she has, She's got millions and millions inside our trading.

Speaker 4 (56:59):
She had to have done that. Well, I mean, look
at all the congressmen.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
I mean they're all They go in there and they
come out wealthier, and there is They had something the
other day on social media where one congressman was he was,
you know, one hundred and sixty percent on every trade
he made.

Speaker 4 (57:14):
Right.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
And so what it's doing is again they're passing laws
that they don't keep.

Speaker 5 (57:21):
Or they're voting for projects that are going to benefit
for them.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
Well, it's insider trading, but it's legalized. So they think, well,
I'm not breaking the law because I'm allowed to do
this as a member of Congress. They won't regulate their
own behavior. Again, they don't self govern. Okay, it's good
enough for THEE, is not good enough for me.

Speaker 4 (57:38):
So insummation.

Speaker 5 (57:41):
If you're helpless and hopeless about the way forward, God
has understanding. God has wisdom for you. God has spiritual
power and God has a jurisdiction. Let me just say this,
My jurisdiction doesn't work anywhere I wanted to work. When
God said Joshua to the Promised Land, he gave them

(58:02):
a geographic map. He said, in between these borders. Right,
I don't get to use the jurisdiction where I feel.
I got to go to my assignment. I've got to
be in my assignment. Then I can use jurisdiction. Then
I can begin to call upon God and he won't
answer me because He's assigned me this jurisdiction. I have

(58:24):
the ability because this is part of my assignment.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
And I think that's the key word here. If you
feel hopeless, if you feel powerless, if you feel helpless,
you get your power and authority through Christ in your assignment.
And you know what that is. Because that's going to
be put on your heart. You're not going to be
able to push it aside.

Speaker 5 (58:46):
Let me give everybody this hearing this podcast some hope.
In the ordinary. When Moses was given this extraordinary command
to deliver the people of Israel from the most powerful
nation at that time, which was the Egyptians, they were
the superpower of their day. And he said, I want
you to deliver them. And Moses said, how am I

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going to do this? How am I going to possibly
do this? And he asked him a question. He says,
what is in your hand? And he says, a shepherd's rod.
And for the last forty years Moses had been a
shepherd in a wilderness. From the age of forty to
the age of eighty, he had been a shepherd. Edie says,
this is going to be your scepter. And then he

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put that shepherd's rod in the dirt and it became
a snake. That tells me, Keith that as long as
I keep my authority and my gifting that God gave
me out of human nature and keep it in divine nature,
it works as a scepter. But if I put it
on the ground and my human nature, it turns into
a serpent. So it's either a scepter or serpent. And

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so why is this so important? Moses had this staff
in his life for forty years, and recognize the potential
there's something in your life that God's about to do
to that ability, that training, that understanding in the natural.
He's going to put his power on it. He's going

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to give you an assignment around it. And every single
one of us has things in our life that we
think are just ordinary. But when we come in the
presence of God, he will turn your ordinary to extraordinary.
He will make it something it could have never been
without his enhancement. All of a sudden, your life changes.
All of a sudden, everything can change. Why God will

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anoint your ordinary, He will empower your ordinary to make
it extraordinary. That's exactly what he did with that scepter.
There was a staff. He made it extraordinary. And so
many times we get so frustrated because we're looking for
solutions outside of ourselves, outside of our history, when God
has already given us something, but only coming into his

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presence will it be illuminated. Oh that's what it is.
I see it for the first time. If you're helpless
and hopeless, maybe it's because your scepter had become a serpent.
Come back to the Creator. You cannot break the laws
of God they break you. Come back into his design.

Speaker 4 (01:01:16):
Thanks for spending time with me today. Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
I'm more out of this than probably anyone listening. I
needed it. Stand your design, Listen to the Lord. Get
true vision, seeing for the first time what you've known
a long time. That's true vision. Yeah, seeing for the
first time what you've known about for a long time.

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And you get that from the Holy Spirit moving in
your life. You get that from God. So I pray
you guys have great dreams tonight. Yeah, I pray that
you see. I think we're going to have some tough
times ahead of us, but he is also We're in
these times because God designed us for these times. He
designed us to be born.

Speaker 5 (01:01:59):
In this there's heroes about to listen. That's right, heros, Yeah, heroes,
and she rose. And let me just say that God
makes everything start at morals. You lose your morals, you
lose your mind. You find your morals, you find your mind.
You lose your morals, you will lose your mind. God
made it so simple that everything in his kingdom works

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with a moral frequency.

Speaker 4 (01:02:22):
And outside your design, you're outside your mind.

Speaker 5 (01:02:24):
If you're outside of your design, you're outside of your mind.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
And if you're outside your design, you're outside your morals
because you were not designed to live immrally.

Speaker 4 (01:02:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:02:32):
And so when we make a moral command on somebody,
it's to bring them back into their design. That's how
God designed it. Thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 4 (01:02:40):
I appreciate it. Brother.

Speaker 5 (01:02:42):
Share this with somebody else, I'm sure to help them.

Speaker 4 (01:02:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Please pass us around with your friends. Remember life Wave
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and most importantly, everybody. Let's trust God and keep freedom rolling, cutting.

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