76. The Deaths of Glenn Turner & Randy Thompson

Better late than never! This week Talysa covers some terrible cases of the flu. Or is it kind of a Sarah case?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hey, I'm t Lisa and I'm Sarah. Welcome to the
Shit Show that's True Crime podcast. Hi, Hello, welcome. God
that's gonna be a gross sound. We're after hours right now.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Yeah, this is overtime.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Normally were recording in the morning after we've had coffee.
We're recording in the evening after we may have had
a drink. I've had a drink and a gummy.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Listen, it's been it's been a week, all right. It's
also we normally record on Mondays and it's currently Friday.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
So it's been a whole week.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
And I think that's all I can legally say about that.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Okay, Well, I'll tell you about one thing, one funny
thing that happened to me this week. So on Wednesday,
we took Connor to a doctor's appointment, and you know,
like the nurse brings you back and does the blood
pressure and the weight and heighten all of that. So
she did his weight and then had him go over
and do his height, and then he looked over at
me because he's like four to eleven now and I'm

(00:59):
I'm five to three. So he looked over at me,
and I looked at the nurse and he's like, can
you measure my mom? She's a short queen. The nurse
and I just both started like we just died. And
then she's like, he made my entire week. And I'm like,
he's never said that to me before, but I mean
it's true. I am saying, short queen. I've only heard
it from men I know, dame, so I don't know
if that's a thing now or if he just made it.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
I think he made it a thing. I'm gonna go
with that.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
But now now all week, I like, it keeps popping
up into my head and I just keep chuckling to
myself because I'm a short queen. You are, But yeah,
he's he's a funny kid. Now I have a new title.
I can't remember what Riley said this week, but.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
I just I turned around. I looked at her and
I was like, I'm so glad I made you funny.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yes, I mean they obviously did it from us. We
we are the funny parents.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
I am one funny parent.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah, my husband wouldn't say that, but.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
I mean, I mean they can disagree. I guess, I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
I think I'm for sure the funny parent.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
That's I mean, everyone listening, thinks we're hilarious.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
That's true, so I mean the red extent. Plus he's
our biggest fans. You think he obviously thinks I'm funny.
He's our largest fan. Listen. I still to this day,
I'm never gonna be able to live it down. I
think one of these times, like once we hit like
a certain amount of follows or whatever, we should bring
our largest fan on.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
I'm fine with that, but that was the funniest the
look on your face when you realize what you had said. Immediately,
I immediate regret. You're like, and I have a microphone
right in front of my face.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yes, erace, delete the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
I did it done. No, I immediately went home and
made it into a clip and I sent it to you.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
It's fine. I immediately showed him.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
I was like, is this good to post?

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Or yeah? No. I immediately is like, so you know,
I like to use the wrong words something, and not
that I liked it. My brain just likes to.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
I can't help it.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
So just so you know, here you go, just watch this.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
I publicly called you our largest fan.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
So all your when I die, I'm sure that's going
to be in like my obituary.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
We can cut this, but on his headstone it can
say our.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Largest, this ship show's largest. Oh so, also, I I
am a nosy neighbor.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
I am very much a nosy neighbor. Like out vacuuming
your driveway. When cops around the.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Corner, I saw that they were parked next to the
neighbor's mailbox. Is I don't even remember what day was
had been, maybe it was yesterday and I just I
had to go check my mail. So I went and
checked my mail, and then I stood in my garage
and opened my.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Mail, and I'm going to read this right here.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, I don't know. I'm not entirely sure what was
going on, but.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yeah, you texted me and what I pictured was you
and kent just like peeking over a fence.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Okay, that was us last weekend. So oh maybe that's
an ye yes, Okay, So they've we've lived here probably
ten in the toun Is, probably ten years something like that.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Well, we've been Facebook friends for ten years, and I
think you've lived here the whole time.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yeah, yeah, so we've been Yeah, so a ton of years.
We've lived here on and off, like over the years,
Like the cops have popped up next door. The mom
and the daughter don't seem to get along very often,
but for quite a few years the daughter was like
moved out, but like recently she's back, and over the
last three weeks the cops have probably been there like
three or four times. So like I was slately nosy

(04:18):
yesterday so I could try to figure out what was
going on over there.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
It just do not pull up the cut this because
I sound like a creep. Do you not pull up
the nine on one log?

Speaker 1 (04:27):
I did. I don't remember what I said, like disturbance
or something like that. It was enough details, No, there
was not enough details, And I pull up the broadcast
by where you can listen to the Yeah, I do that,
Like literally we are creepers because Kat will pull up
one and I pull up the other. But he wasn't home,
so I just like I went out and then I
could hear her, but like I don't know, she needed help,

(04:50):
and I do think she got it because like a
few hours later, a white van came and picked her up.
So hold hold on two steps b words, just a
white van. Well, now there was like there were also
two white subs. I don't know, did they have logos
on the side, like I didn't cow any sheriff. No,
I didn't see because white.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Vans pulling up to take somebody places sound scary.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
No, the explorers were or like on mark sheriff vehicles.
And when I did, what I did hear her say
is that I don't care where I go. I just
want to get out of here, like I'm trying to
find a place to go. So yeah, so I do
really very much hope that she's getting whatever help she needs,
because it clearly seems like she needed it. But yeah,
I I am just that nosy neighbor.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
I mean I am too. Yeah, I mean it's do
the same thing. Yeah, being on the receiving end of
right having the craps at your house is Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
So that's why I like, I feel bad sometimes. But
then also I just I need I'm for my brain.
I need to know what's going on.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
I think it's also good to just be aware, no,
take note of like what's going on in case something
happens and you might need to be the one to
call to get help over there or whatever.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
So that's kind of how I was thinking about it
the other day when I was listening because I like,
you can tell by the way like the police are
responding to different people and like how they talk, like
how they're receiving and whatnot. And then I was kind
of like grasping what was maybe really going on over there.
So I'm like, okay, so noted if I hear anything
going on, like, I'm just gonna go ahead and dial
up nine one one and not get involved.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
I don't know why I went off on that tangent,
but I did.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't really have anything fun
to share this week. We're doing a lot of kids sports,
a lot of everything.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Should be wrapping up pretty soon though, right.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
I think I had two more weeks of spring sports
and then Anthony's lacrosse games start, which is fine, but
then we only have one thing, not a big deal,
but just doing that and working. And we've had some
personal stuff, which is why I'm we're recording Friday instead
of Monday and at night instead of in the morning.
And yeah, it's fine though, no whatever, and that's why week, right,

(07:01):
it'll be when this comes out. Last week will be
a re release of something to be determined, because I
have not given it a single thought.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Same, Yeah, it'll be fine.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
So it'll be fine. We're here doing this so that.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
I feel like we have a good base now of
people who still listen even when we need to re release,
and who like us.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
And I don't mind re releasing because we always pick
like a lesser known, unsolved thing to re release. And
I think, I mean we tried to.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah, we tried to. There were have been a couple
times said I'm like, remember this crazy thing.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah, I think the last one was remember that one. Well,
it's my turn.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
It is, yeah, it is your It is your turn,
because I don't. I don't have anything. And I told
a really shitty case last week, so.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
I well you did a good job. First of all,
thank you. But the case was infuriating. It was when
Sarah sent me the graphic that we share on social media,
and I immediately was like, fuck Stamford, right, his name
was standard, that was yeah, the book Stanford in his mustache.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, I know. I don't know why. Sometimes I forget to,
like I get so like deep dive into like just
the backstory and like all of that that sometimes I
forget to look at pictures. I very much wish I
had looked at.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
We could have had so much mustache.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
I know, we listen. It was a missed opportunity on
my part because we would have had great conversation about
how they both.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Looked next time.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Yeah, So next time, I just need to remember, like
if I have one of those cases like he fuck face,
look at the pictures.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yeah, I don't. I mean for the old ones. So
it's hard to find. Yeah, just find the pictures in
the the articles and whatever. I specifically look for him.
It's not like for a recent case where you're watching
a dateline or yeah or whatever. Full disclaimer. I researched
this case before a family emergency. Yeah, so this will
also be brand new information to me.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
It's all typed out. I spend a lot of time
on it.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
I don't even I have no even inkling of like
what you might be doing.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
I don't have it named or anything. I'm not sure
exactly how I want even the episode name to be, okay.
Julia Lynn was adopted by the Walmack family shortly after
her birth, and her mother gave her up. She went
by Lynn for her whole life, So that's what we're
gonna call her. The Walmack's divorced when Lynn was five,
and her mom, Helen, got custody of her. Shortly after that,

(09:20):
Helen remarried, but Lynn never got along with her new
stepfather and his name and all of the articles are
is D. L. Gregory And I'm just not realizing I
didn't put her birthday in here, but it's not really
super I think I did later on. She was born
in the sixties, Okay, hell d L. Look at this.

(09:41):
Don Donald.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
Would be in R for Richard.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
So she didn't get along with her her stepdad, and
as a teenager, Lynn took to some substance abuse and
was actually admitted to a clinic in Atlanta, Georgia for
drug problems. Also another quick side note, I'm two sentences
into this, but I have a new laptop and it's
not a touchscreen, so meldown.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
We might struggle a little bit.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
It's fine, so I smash this thing. By the nineties,
Lynn was working as a nine one dispatcher for Cobb County, Georgia.
She had attempted to become a police officer, but failed
the psychological exam. So would I probably, but I don't know.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
I also thought you had to pass one of those
to be a dispatcher.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Maybe there are different levels.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
I probably that.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Maybe in the nineties it was different standards.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Oh you know what we're going. Absolutely, there's no maybe
it Absolutely it's different standard. I'm surprised there was a
psyche bell for police were the nineties?

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yeah, not that that was that long ago, because I'm
so young and super weird, so old, and I don't
ache if I sleep on the couch.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
That's a fucking life.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
So I think before she was a dispatcher, she was
like a legal secretary, like an adjacent yeah to a
police business.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
However, so sometime in nineteen ninety one, Lynn was out
with some friends just having a good time. She was
really described as being the life of the party and
super easy to get along with, like she was always
down for a good time. Not me, like I'm down
for good time all the time, but Sarah is like,
I'm down for a good time in my own home.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yes, I don't like leaving home. I don't like wearing pants.
I put pants on for.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Y'all, thank you.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
I built I did build a bar though, So like
she doesn't have to leave.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
So while she's out, she meets Maurice Glenn Turner who
went by Glenn because no one in the story likes
their first name. Marris, Maurice, Maurice, Maurice, Glenn Turner, he
goes by Glenn, So we're calling him Glenn the whole time.
We're calling her Lynn the whole time. It's their middle names.
I don't understand how two people who only go by
their middle names ended up connected.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
I thought about going by my middle name because there
were about twenty Sarah's in my class, but like I
obviously didn't. I just too lazy for that.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
So Glenn was born on September twenty fifth, twenty three.
Growing up, he had always wanted to be a police officer.
He went through all of the training and eventually became
an officer for Cobb County. So that's the same county
that she's a dispatcher in a show that I watched
for this. His family said that he was really just
a gentle giant, and his nicknames were fat boy in
Buddha stop it. But he wasn't fat, like I looked

(12:15):
at pictures. Yeah, right, obviously they have the show and whatever.
He's like six feet tall and around two hundred pounds, like, so,
just a big guy, and then I wrote, I don't
know the nicknames her my feelings, but I'm sure they
were said with love. Like his sister was the one
that said.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Right, it's like the one fat What was it fatty? Yeah? Yeah,
like it's just it's it doesn't don't don't call me fat.
Cry I know, I think it seemed like it was
said with a lot of love. But I was like, okay,
but it always starts out of like he was being
picked on when he was a kid, and his sister
just then it stuck.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah, I mean whatever, so really just gentle giant wanted
I don't want to I'm not going to jump off
from okay. Literally my next sentence is what I was
you go for that? So when Glenn, Glenn and Lynn meet,
Glenn is twenty eight, and he had always told his
family that he wanted to settle down by the time
he was thirty. He wanted to get married, have kids,

(13:12):
the whole thing. It sounded like he and his buddies
spent a lot of time like out at bars, you know, like, yeah,
you're in your twenties, and and whenever it was like
either bars or one of the people described like this
apartment building that a lot of the police officers lived at. Okay,

(13:34):
so it was like, if there wasn't a group going
out to whatever the local bar is, they would be
starating in someone's apartment. I scrolled too far and I
can't fix it very quickly because I don't have a
touch screen. Okay. So he meets Lynn and they start dating.
It seemed like they really didn't have a ton in
common besides police work and their love for Nascar and
working on cars. That's what one of Glenn's friends said.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
It all like base, I think things that you guys
like and you could do together police work. I mean,
we do police work every week together. We don't get
paid for our please work, but we are solid.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
I swear to God, someday I'm gonna selve the case.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Did I send you that?

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Sorry? Yes you did, Okay, and I'm like, that is
the fucking dream, right. So Glenn's sister said quote she
liked to do things he liked to do. She would
ride a motorcycle just like him. I mean, she'd pop wheelies.
She was a girl that could do guy things.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Gross. But okay, I don't have anything nice to say.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Okay, but it seems like when they started dating, Glenn
kind of stopped hanging out with his friends and family
as much as they did before, which I know is
somewhat of a normal common thing.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
I mean, it depends to what severity it seems like
to a pretty high severity. Okay.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
His family said that Lynn made no effort to get
to know them or even be friendly. Right off the bat,
Lynne started buying Glenn all kinds of expensive, flashy gifts
cowboy boots knew, like rims for his truck. Those are
the only two examples that I put in here, but
there were others. There were, I mean, new rims for
any vehicles, an expensive thing.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
I was thinking about Cowboy and the Cowboy that extensive too.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yeah, And like Glenn was just over the moon. He's like,
this is the fucking best.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
So I'm hearing love bombing. Yeah okay, yep.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
So he's, you know, dazzled by the gifts. He's flattered
by her like chasing him like I'm trying to pursue you.
But he was apparently blind to what all of his
buddies thought was obvious about Lynn, that she was a
world class flirt, Glenn's best friend. Don't get offended. I
see your face. Just wait. Glenn's best friend Don said

(15:42):
that one time Lynn came over and sat on the
couch next to him and then laid down and put
her head in his lap and looked up to him
and said something like I wonder what it would be
like to kiss you. And he was like, get the
fuck off for me.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
That's beyond flirting.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
They said, world class flirt and then and that was
one of the examples. And I was like, scenes like flirting.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
I can't say what flirting is.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
I don't know how My flirting is just being aggressively sarcastic.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Ohkay, saying so yeah, that's that's our that's our love
language is like we are.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
She's gesturing to her and our biggest fan.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yes, he's upstairs right now. Yeah. Like literally, my flirting
is He'll say something and then I turn into a
sexual in the window and then just ad a bad joke,
yes and whatever move. Never would I consider laying my
head in a man's lap gives me the.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Dick, To be honest, We'll file all that under things
that will never happen, right, And it.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Does drive me straight to the mental hospital because something
is wrong. There's a tumor or something happening up there.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
If that happened, Sarah needs to be what was it
in the twenties, the Baker Act, She needs to be
Baker Acted.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
So another friend who is Mike, Mike Archer, said that
Glenn told him that he was going to propose to Lynn.
So this is like in an interview, he's speaking or
whatever and he goes, I was like, are you crazy,
don't do it? And he said that he could think
of at that time five or six guys that Lynn
was probably dating, but he didn't. I think in this

(17:18):
is not in my notes, so sorry Mike if this
is not completely accurate. I'm pretty sure he said that
like he didn't want to get involved really in which
like I understand you don't want to get involved in
someone else's drama, but that he didn't really like, tell
Glenn it is so crazy, which is weird because I
thought Broko would be right, tell Lynn or tell Glenn.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Sorry, it is very amusing. Excuse me, yeah, I did.
Even back then. I thought it was like, I don't know,
I was just a baby same. I don't know though,
because but guys are very much I'm my my, I'm
keep my my own business. I don't I didn't see anything,
I didn't hear anything, like you guys are also that way.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
But even though Buddy was like, Hi, hey, yeah, is
that what we want to do, Glenn proposed and Lynn
said yes, and they set their wedding date for August
nineteen ninety three. They got married at a church in
Maryett to Georgia and Linda, Glenn's sister, said she didn't
even want to go to the church to attend the wedding,
but her mom told her that she had to. You know,

(18:19):
she was like, that's your brother. You're gonna have to
get used to Lynn being around. Yeah, that type of thing.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yeah, because I mean they're they're going to do what
they want to do either way, Like there is it
going to hurt them that their sister's not there? Yes,
but they're still.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Gonna get married and you still want Glenn to be
like you still want your brother to be in your life, right,
so you're just kind of suck it up and go right.
Glenn's mom said that the wedding was super weird and
that they didn't get any pictures with Lynn, like she
just wasn't around when they did the family pictures with

(18:52):
his side of the family, like, you know, I'm picturing
like they do the bride and groom and then like
the bride's family, and then they do the bride and
groom and the groom's family. She was like, I will
not be there for those pictures again. Icky. Also, they
did a candlelighting ceremony, you know where you like, what
is it like the unity cam.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah, I almost did this.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
And they couldn't get the candle to light, and Linda,
Glenn's sister, was like, that's for sure a fucking sion,
except she didn't swear because I think she's a better
person than me.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
And they were in a church that for sure, I'm
a bad person.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
But whatever. So seven days after the wedding, they got
home from their honeymoon and Glenn immediately called his mom
to talk about honeymoon stuff and whatever. But then he
tells her that he needed to change the beneficiary on
his life insurance to Lynn and like, I'm not really
sure if he called her, Like, I don't think he
called her just for that, but that came up in
conversation and everyone was like, you get back from your

(19:48):
honeymoon and that's like your immediate god, although I'm not
really I think I have this in her later. I
don't know, if you, like, when you have a spouse
that's a first responder or has a dangerous job, if
that might be kind of higher up on the list
of things to do after so that if something happened,
you could still stay in your house. And I'm like, yeah,

(20:09):
if you're relying on that, I'm not. I don't. I
don't really know. But it was noted that it was
very weird that yeah, seventiethh after your wedding, that's like weird.
I focused on I probably still.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
To this day wouldn't even ask Hi about it. One
day he came over ward, He's like, oh, yeah, I
did this, like maybe his beneficiary for seven Like, okay, cool,
I never would have thought about it.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Great things.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Thanks for not leaving me with nothing if you die,
because I had no clue.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Okay, So fast forward a year and it seemed like
Lynn had no interest in Glenn and she's like barely
of her home. In January of nineteen ninety five, he
tells his sister that things are really rocky at home,
and one of his best friends tells him that Lynn
is seeing other police officers.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
How was that?

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Like, howe it in neighboring?

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Okay, sense I think maybe not within the same department,
all right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Or I mean if it's a really big department, maybe,
but like you know, like those people talk people talking
about like everybody knows everything, right.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
So Mike Archer, the friend from before, he's also who
he's also a police officer with cob County. I don't
know if I remember if I said that or not,
but I just assumed, Okay. He took Glenn out for
dinner and drinks around this time because he was concerned about,
you know, like his mental state and everything that's going on,
and he said Glenn was obviously upset and like tearing

(21:33):
up when they talked about how things had been. Glenn
said that he had literally worked three hundred and sixty
five days with no days off to pay off all
of one's credit card debt. Jesus Christ remember all the
fancy gifts, yes, okay, And he said that she was
just running him into the ground. So he's a police officer.
He also had several part time jobs. Okay, he's filling

(21:54):
in time with wow. But then with all of this
stress and being overworked, Glenn came down with the flu.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
No the fuck he didn't.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
It was he called into work on a Tuesday, and
then again on Wednesday, and then again on Thursday, March second.
He it was noticed on that day that Lynn also
called out of work. The lieutenant at the department told
Mike Archer to swing over to their place and check
on them, like during his shift, but the department got

(22:24):
really busy, so Mike was really busy and he didn't
get a chance to go over to Glenn's house. And
then towards the end of the shift, Glenn actually called
Mike and said that he had been that he had
never been so sick. He said he had gone to
the er and he was shaky, he could barely walk
or talk. The er said they, yeah, it's probably the
flu like that's going around. It's that time of year.

(22:46):
They gave him some meds and some fluids and send
him home. On this call, Glenn told Mike that he
was feeling a little better, probably thanks to the fluids,
and that he would let him know if he was
going to be at work or stay home the following day.
So this is a Thursday, he was expected to go
to work on Friday. But the next morning, Mike Archer
got a phone call from his I think one place
said co sergeant. I'm not really sure how that works.

(23:08):
They're both sergeants, so they call each other co sergeants
because they don't outrank each other. This is literally like
Mike talking right when I wrote it down and I
wrote a question mark, now I need to know. But
the next morning, Mike Archer got a phone call from
a coworker to notify him that Glenn Turner was found
dead in his bed early that morning. Glenn's family is

(23:29):
notified and is obviously shocked because, Hi, he just had
the flu.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
And he's twenty something. He's like maybe early early thirty. Ly.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yeah, Also, Okay, at this point in the show that
I watched, which I cite it in my sources, they
just randomly went was Glenn so depressed that he took
his own life?

Speaker 1 (23:49):
What the fuck? And I was like, how do we
go from him being so sick with the flu to
a random did he convince? Well?

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Because I think that they took like Mike taking him
out to dinner and be concerned about like his mental
state with stuff going on. I was like, huh, Okay, yep,
noted that makes sense, and then all of a sudden
too this and I was like, I don't think so, No,
we haven't. That's not has not been an option this
whole time. I don't think.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
No yet, which granted he can be sad about his relations.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
But in granted, you never know what somebody's got going on.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Like I mean, yes, but.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
I think that the show threw that in there for
like drama, because we will find as this case goes on,
there's little to no mystery. But I wanted to put
it in there that I thought that was really shitty
of the show.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Just be like, I want to know which show, but
we can It'll be.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
I haven't listed down there. I'm not scrolling all the
way down there. And then back this key. Okay. Cobb
County Homicide Detective Charles mess Oregos went to Glegg's hot
and I was so focused on Maso. Cobb County Homicide, Okay.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Delete this whole episode, Nope.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Cobb County Homicide Detective Charles master Rago's went to Glenn's
house to investigate. He said that he saw like in
the report, he saw Glenn on his side on the
bed obviously deceased, but nothing else in the house was
on this. There was no signs of a struggle. There
was like nothing to indicate that Glenn's death was anything

(25:32):
but natural causes. Just a really unfortunate and devastating case
of the flu. Probably Mike, though from the jump, was
like all caps, Lynn did something to him.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
We're friends, Mike, unless it turns out Make did it,
We're no longer friend.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Lynne said that a few hours before he died, Glenn
was hallucinating, acting like he could fly and was going
to jump off the back porch, and that he tried
to drink something that looked like gasoline, but she took
it away from him and like tucked him into bed.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Let's take him to the fucking hospital.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
They just got home from the fucking hospital, Sarah.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Okay, but if the homeboy's a fucking hallucinating and trying
to drink gasoline, don't yell at me. So sorry, I'm
yelling a Lynn, so sorry. I can't speak calmly because
she's a fucking idiot. Why would you not take him
to the hospital, Like, that's not that's beyond flu symptoms.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
I don't know. I think like if you have a
high enough fever, you can.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Okay, then his brain is frying and he needs to
to the hospital.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Okay, I mean, I agree, I'm just playing Devil's advocate
or whatever. It was noted that overall she did seem
very upset and concerned. She told the detective that they
went to the yar that night, then they came home.
She made him some jello, and that earlier that morning,
she went out to the store and she came back

(26:51):
and she found Gwen dad what was in the jello,
the ingredients to jello. So she found him deceased, and
that's when she called them. One the Cobb County Medical
Examiner did an autopsy and they ruled out foul play.
They determined the cause of death to be natural causes
because Glenn had an enlarged heart. But I don't know

(27:12):
if like the flu, you feel like COVID does heart stuff.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Yeah, I have pods.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
No, you know, not that it's my heart.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
Minds not the point.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
It's a whole it's a whole, separate thing. Mike was like,
absolutely not. She had to have poisoned him or something. Yeah,
He's like, there's no fucking way. He was assured that
the department would look into it, and was asked not
to accuse another employee of the department.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Of murder because that looks bad because they hired her.
We would like that bad reflection on her.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
In the end, he accepted the results of the autopsy.
It was just like, no, myke, you know, he's like,
my gut feeling, is this all of the gut But
everyone's saying it's not this, and it's all his coworkers
and stuff were saying, we've investigated it.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
They did, it's whatever, Okay, we're here, or so something
else happened.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
We're talking about on this podcast, and I need to know,
like right now, Okay. So then I get to the funeral.
Lynd's in a great mood. She's laughing, joking, really soaking
up the attention. Remember earlier when I said she was
like the life of the party, always whatever, the flirt, the.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
Life of the funeral.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
That is not something I ever want to be called.
I know everyone grieves in different ways and all of that.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
But yeah, I just have a feeling I know what's
going to be coming of this case.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
So yeah, it was said that she sat very close
to another officer and was even holding his hand like
very flirty, touchy feely, and Glenn's family was like, what
in the actual fuck is happening over there? Right? I like,
like you can't keep it together at the funeral.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
I don't know, well, okay, good. I am heavily judging
because she was said to our to be dating other
officers before, so like that's where the judgment's coming from,
because she was like guarded cheating right like prior to
his death. But yeah, that's really gross behavior. Again, you

(29:11):
can't judge how somebody else's else mourns. I'm sure at
some point in some way she did have some sort
of feelings towards him, But I just have respect for
his family as well. Like, it's not yes, it was
your husband that you murdered by his family's stitt there.
He died of the flu That's that's what he said.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
That's how we flu in a large heart.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Yeah sorry, that's yeah, yes, yeah, just like it's there
are lots of people mourning him, and like you should
have some respect for his family.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Right, Like that's not funeral behavior, right. So from the
church to the gravesite, Lynn called the life insurance company
to start the process of collecting on the policy.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
I don't. I don't regret any judgment, regret zero judgment. Bitch,
be fucking cray. She deserves all of the judgment. That
is a wild time to be worried of, Like you
can't wait till the next day, You can't wait until
he's in the fucking ground.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
No, it was from the church to the gravesite. Then
after the funeral, Lynn left Cobb County and didn't tell
Glenn's family where she was going. She was like peace out.
I mean not that she has to tell them anything,
but just like she was immediately like we're done contacting
each other, right, goodbye forever. Glenn's family visited his gravesite
every year to celebrate his life, but Lynn never reached

(30:22):
out to them and obviously never showed up for the celebrations.
She was goodbye, gone.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Because she didn't care about him.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
In that show. And I think at least one article
that I read it said that she would receive about
eight hundred dollars a month from Glenn's pension and one
hundred and fifty four thousand dollars from his life insurance policy.
So the life insurance policy one fifty four in today's
money is about three hundred and twenty eight thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Okay, that was so not a small sum of money.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
So the eight hundred dollars a month she was receiving
from his pension was about one hundred dollars.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Yeah, so that's a decent little some of them in
each month too.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
It's not no kids.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Yeah, she can pay her credit her debt, Lynn and
her credit her debt, fucking a different toy and buying
him things. Sorry, I'm really judgmental tonight.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
Anyway, So a few years after Glenn's death, Mike Archer,
here's your rumor that Lynn was pregnant with Randy Thompson's
baby in Forsyth County, Georgia. And that's a really weird
way to word that. I'm sorry, I'm.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Going to assume another officer in a different county. We
will get into it, okay, please hold.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
He was also told that Lynn started dating this guy
like right after Glenn's death, and I think.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
At the funeral. Sorry, i think I've been here.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Like, turns out she was dating him before Glenn died, right,
But get in line. I don't know. I couldn't find
a ton of background information on Randy. Like Glenn's family
was interviewed for multiple shows, but Randy's family didn't participate
in that.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Which is are you telling me Sarah case?

Speaker 2 (32:00):
No, okay, just that he was also involved with Lynn,
so there was not like a ton about this guy, okay.
Randy was born on June twelfth, nineteen sixty eight. He
had been a deputy sheriff and then later became a firefighter.
His sister said that he brought the party wherever he went,
like these these people are all about partying.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
I have way more energy than me.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
I know, what was it like six o'clock tonight. I
was like, hey, I can come over and record a
case if you want. But like, I know, it's kind
of late six o'clock on a Friday.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
Listen, I do not leave my house. And if we
do leave our house and go on a date, we
are by six o'clock on a briding.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Okay. But she also said, you know he married young
and had a son and then got divorced, so he like,
I don't want to say I had some baggage. That's
really be the same maybeased experience. Yeah, Like I guess
he wasn't really looking into looking to get into like
a serious relationship, right, because he had just gone through
all of that. He was really working a ton to

(33:01):
pay for child support. Oh and then I wrote he
wasn't really looking to date anyone. I should just read
my notes. So when Lynn popped up into his life,
she made it really easy for him to like drift
into a relationship. They're both fun, outgoing, life of the
party type vibes. She liked to be out on the town,
and she started buying in presents really for no reason,

(33:23):
like a leather coat or a pair of snake skin
boots that cost eleven hundred dollars in nineteen ninety five money.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Well that was her one or once a month paycheck
from her dead husband.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
It seemed like both of Randy's sisters clocked her weird
behavior and immediately didn't like her.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
It's a weird theme among these sisters of just being
able to tell, oh my, oh, my accent's going to
come out, oh oh oh.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
No, Sara's had a half a drink and one gummy.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
I got two gummies and two drinks.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Oh. Both of Randy's sisters said that Lynne just kind
of loved the chase, and they thought that once she
had him, she wouldn't want him anymore. Randy and Lynn
lived together for like four years. They had two kids,
a daughter that was born on January thirtieth, nineteen eighty six,
and a sun on June eighteenth, ninety eight. At the
beginning of the relationship, she did really a lot of

(34:19):
the same things that she did with Glenn, a lot
of expensive gifts, to the point his family was actually
uncomfortable with the level of presence that she gave, Like
on the first Christmas that they were around, and Lynne
told them that she had gotten an inheritance from her
grandmother or something like that, and that her late husband
had died in the line of duty.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
Lynn, why are we lying about how our husband died
because it was the flu? It's a flu. Not heroic
enough you well, also, you can look that up.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Hold on, Okay, because that first Christmas, Lynn was still
married to Glenn, he was still alive, and she was
saying he died in the line of duty. She's too stunned.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
To speak, I am this bitch.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yeah, So she's married to Glenn, and his family said
it was really weird that she just chose not to
go to his family gathering like that was the plan
for them to get together for Christmas or whatever. Yeah,
and so she just went to her boyfriend's family's house
and said that Glenn was dead and he was still alive.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Fucking wild And to come up with like that, because like,
that's something that's going to be in the news.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Well, I mean in the nineties, it's not like you
just pull up fucking Google or I.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Feel like it'd be in like all of the local
newspapers that Raby had to delivered to the door every morning.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
I don't know, but that could also be something that
people just didn't well, yeah, you ask follow up questions,
and well it was never going to get their word too, right,
not now somebody tells me something weird and I'm like,
hold on a.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
Second, yeah, exactly, believe nothing, believe nothing.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
So eventually, so after the kids, they've been living together
for four or five years, their relationship started breaking down.
Lynna was spending money like crazy, and Randy really wanted
the relationship to work, but it was just not happening.
He unfortunately ends up in the hospital twice for taking
too many sleeping pills. His family said that it was

(36:10):
just to get Lynn's attention and that he wasn't actually
trying to commit suicide. But and I really like, you
never know what someone's going through in their head. And
I think this might be why they tried to tye
in that show, tried to tye Glenn into this or whatever.
It seemed like Randy. They might have actually whether it
was fully full attempt or like a half hearted thing,

(36:33):
which is really really sad, because it seemed really I mean,
you're in a ton of debt, you got two kids,
You're not happy with your relationship.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Right you feel trapped that and you can't really do
anything your spouse that's sposed to bear you know, there's
like fuck you, I'm doing still doing whatever I want.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Yeah, yeah, okay, So we're jumping to two thousand and one.
Randy actually moves out of their home. They were like
breaking up. He gets his own apartment, but it's still
like like together, but like living separately. Then at this
around this time, remember Mike Archer, yes, your best friend.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
We are besties, and left he bucks up, we're besties
right now.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
He left the police force and started working at some
car dealership, and he got a call asking about a
car rental for a funeral. He does some digging and
he finds out that the funeral was for Randy Thompson.
Then he finds out that Randy died and Lynn was
the last person to see him alive. And this was
about six years after Glenn's totally not suspicious at all,

(37:32):
natural death.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Okay, how do you die?

Speaker 2 (37:36):
We're about to get into it.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
I need you to dive deep right now because it's
finally Okay.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
So January nineteenth, two thousand and one, Randy goes to
Longhorn Steakhouse with Lynn and the kids. Okay, Then the
following day, he felt like, man, I'm really not feeling all.
I think I have the flu, like the worst flu.
Some friends went to check on him, and he was,
I guess, totally out of it. They were worried that
he might be overdosing on something again, and like in

(38:04):
one article, it sounded like they debated taking him to
the hospital because like it would look bad for work purposes,
and I just want to say, like, just take them,
right It sorted out later, yep, absolutely just take them.
But they actually called Lynn and she said that they
should take him to the hospital, but she couldn't because
she had to take care of the kids. So the

(38:25):
friends call an ambulance and then they toss or flush
any of the medication in the that's in the apartment.
I think that never mind, told on it's in two sentences.
The emergency room doctors thought Randy had some kind of
stomach virus, and they gave him some fluids and a
prescription for something, and Randy actually started feeling better and

(38:48):
bitched at his friends about tossing all of his meds.
So he had had a sinus surgery a few months
before and it had turned into a staff infection, so
he had like some pain meds and some some other
it's like yeah, for that reason. So he was like,
my fucking face hurts, you assholes, Right, I just have
the flu.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
And not and I had staph infection and now the
flu in my faes.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Yeah, poor guy. So the EIR trip was a Friday night,
and on Sunday, Lynn called these same set of friends
again and said she was really worried because she had
stopped into his apartment with some prescriptions that she filled
for him, and he was super out of it and
he was hyperventilating, and she just she asked the friends
to go check on him and the friends tried to

(39:33):
call Randy's phone, but the line was busy. For any
younger listeners on a landline, if you were on the
phone and someone tried to call you, it would just
be like a busy signal. I don't really know, but amusing,
like it would just beep at you.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Yeah, you couldn't. You just couldn't get like, it wouldn't
get the call through, Like the line, you couldn't get
through to that line because it was already being taken up.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
And then and later on they made call waiting.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
Yeah, then it would just beep if you're on the phone.
So weird to think that we lived when there was
not call waiting. I never put that into thought. Thank
you for winning my night.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
I'm one hundred years old and it hurts me very
much to sleep.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
On the couch anyway.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
Okay, then Monday, Randy's truck was parked where it usually is,
but no one was answering his phone. Still, no one
was answering the door, so firefighters have to break into
his apartment and they find Randy dead on his couch.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Okay, so we waited, We're called and told he was
hyperventilating and left alone and then couldn't get a hold
of him, so we waited.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
I don't know exactly what the friends had going on,
or if they were like, well, he's on the phone, okay,
and then they went to bed or something okay.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
Yeah, because yeah, because when somebody's phone was busy, assumed
that they were just on the other lane.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
You don't assume that they're dead, right, I might, But
the medical examiner determined that had died from a heart attack,
totally natural causes.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
This is sounding more and more like a Sarah case.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
It's not, though, they just it's a sad story of
the flu and a heart attack, any arsenic and those
heart attacks, and I can full hardly say no, what's.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
The other one? I can anything of it.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
There's no rough on rats, it's not old enough for that.
No cyanide side, no said either. Randy's funeral was held
and Lynn kept to herself. Maybe learned a few things.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
I don't know, not to be fucking her next boyfriend
in the front feel right.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
I didn't seem like it was less dramatic maybe, But
as cars were leaving the services, one of Randy's friends
got a phone call from Lynn, and I think this
was one of the friends that Lynn had called when
Randy was exactly and there's so the friend said, Dylan said, quote,
guess what you're going to hear next, And the friend's
like what, and she said, You're going to hear that

(41:54):
I killed Randy in that it seems a lot like
my ex husband's death. You don't believe that, right, just
random like as cars were leaving the services, she called
him and was like, Hey, the next thing you're going
to hear is that my ex husband died kind of
just like this, but I totally didn't have anything to
do with it.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Not suspicious at all.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Imagine getting that phone call being like.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
No, it's imagine I would love to know how In
her mind she rationalized like, oh, no, I need to
go ahead and do this because then it is it
going to absolve me of anything. They're not going to
think that if I already tell them.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Yeah, it's like it's free over explaining, right, Yeah, Okay,
back to Mike Archer at the dealership. Yes, because Mike
got that information and was like, Hi, this is a
red flag. He's like, what are the chances of having
two husbands in their thirties die in the middle of
the night after falling ill, throwing up that whole deal,
and he said, it's like lightning striking the same spot twice.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Yes, but don't think happens very often.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
So he calls the Forsyth County investigators to tell them
about Glenn, and he's like, you need to steal off
the apartment. Really take a look at what's going on,
look at Lynn. And they assured him that they would
look into it. But the death was ruled to be
natural causes and Lynn was just super unlucky.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Did they do an autopsy? Yeah? I thought, yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
For sure. Mike reached out to investigators in Cobb County,
where Glenn had died, and was basically told that he
was watching too much TV.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Imagine, and that's how they responded to another officer, Well,
he's no longer, but.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
So don't worry about it. You're just you're being paranoid.
It's just really unfortunate.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
I will it's very shitty of me, but it is
slightly funny that a man's being told something that's usually told.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
I thought you were gonna say something that I was
gonna make a joke about, like doctors or ever whatever.
You're just being paranoid. You just have anxiety. So Glenn's
family also worked to get his case reopened. After Randy's death,
they were told by the medical examiner that the office
had done their job and nothing could be done without
exhuming Glenn's body. I read in one article that it

(43:57):
would be about ten thousand dollars to do that, and
the family couldn't afford it.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
Right, Yeah, that's a lot. I didn't realize it would
be so expensive. I mean, just to dig somebody up.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Yeah, but you gotta pay for the equipment and the
equipment officers that are there. Then you have to pay
for the medical examiner to re examine the body, like
to do another autopsy. Glenn's mom, Kathy, decided that she
was just going to figure it out on her own,
all right, Kathy. I like Kathy. She found a copy

(44:30):
of Randy's obituary and in that had the names of
people and his family, so she called one of his sisters.
But the sister was not really interested in hearing any
of this, which is understandable, Like she's grieving and it's
probably like, what the fuck are you talking about? You're
just person. I'm trying to process this or whatever. Kathy
was determined to talk to someone so and like I think,

(44:53):
with the phone call being like not perceived very well,
she decided to write a letter to Randy's mom explaining
the whole thing, okay, and I think she sent it
to the funeral home where randy services were okay. So
I don't know that it took the family four months
to process it and answer it, but or if the

(45:14):
funeral home had it and then had to get to
get it to them. But four months later, Randy's mom
called Kathy and the two families got together to compare notes. Okay,
So both men were police slash firemen. Yeah, some sort
of first honor. Both were with Lynn at the end
of their lives. They both had the flu, and that's
how they found out that Lynn dated Randy while she

(45:36):
was still with Glynn, but told Randy that she was
a widow of Gush. I cannot even I am just
I am not.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
I can't lie. I don't like, I can't even tell
like little white lies. So I couldn't imagine like my
husband's dead and going to.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
Just be like, oh, my husband's a widow very Christmas,
or my I'm I'm a widow my husband's dead. He
died in the line of duty. Right, I'm a widow,
and he's.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
Actually just sitting at home because that's where he left.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Now, he's at his mom's house for Christmas.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
This is right without you because you wanted to go
to your boyfriends instead of your husband's fucking wild.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
They also realized that on February eighteenth, nineteen ninety five,
and went to the Daytona five hundred and left Glenn
behind because he had to work to pay off all
of the credit card debt. Lynn went to the Daytona
five hundred with Randy and it was not long after that,
like just a couple of weeks, that Glenn got the
flu and passed away. They also discussed how Lynn was
in the relationship with the crazy like lavish gifts and

(46:38):
or the gifts at the beginning, and then how she
was like kind of cold and uncaring and controlling one
of them. I think it was Glenn, Like she gave
him an allowance.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
He's working three sixty five and she's giving him an allowance. Yes,
woo okay.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
Wild. Also, at the beginning of her relationship with Randy,
she paid for the super fancy cruise in and when
they got back, like they docked and all that or whatever,
they had a limo drive them home to their apartment,
which is like weird as fuck to me, But whence
you feel silly?

Speaker 1 (47:10):
Hey drive me to my apartment complex. See, I don't.
I do not think that I could comfortably sit in
the back of a limo. I think it would give
me so much anxiety because then I can't see what's happening.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
Yeah, I mean I get carsick in the back of cars.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
Oh, I don't get carsick, like not like I get
anxious if I can't fucking see what's happening.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Right, Okay, the two families are on the same page.
They go to the police of their concerns, and also
Glenn's police buddies back them up to push for answers.
They lobby for the Forsyth County to do a second
autopsy on Randy. The medical examiner agrees to take a
second look. And I'm not sure if they exhumed his
body or if they just looked at some tissue samples

(47:50):
that they saved, but they did find oxolate crystals in
Randy's liver and kidneys, and a quote from the show
is those are not used to be there, thank you.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
I'm just assuming that the narrator of the show was
a man that I don't know.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
I think it was the Emmy or one of the
detectives breaking on the Keys River. They were just like, yeah,
we found the oxolate crystals and those were not supposed
to be there.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
And one more guests on Anna freeze.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
I don't know it was the fluw NoHo the fuck up?

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Yeah, that created othoalate crystals.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
So if you waited for one more sentence, oxolate crystals
are the result of your body trying to process ethylene.
Guy call which is sand and freeze?

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Listen. I had tend to make the guests.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
Here is where my googling got me that get help
warning about poisoning yourself. I was like, how many times
can this morning pop up? Before? Like I was just
my computer calls the police on me.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
It's it's like, should we just have like a goal,
like each month, how many times we could get in
or for different things like a bingo card.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
Yeah, signs of ethylene got gwycll. Poisoning depend on like
the time of ingestion. So there are three stages. Different
things happen at different stages, but they don't always like
you don't always get to stage three, you know what
I mean? So Stage one is like thirty minutes to
even twelve hours. This consists of neurological and gas dro

(49:15):
intentional gas s dro intestinal symptoms, Oh my god, very intentional, guest,
and it kind of looks similar to alcohol poisoning. You
might appear to be intoxicated, dizzy, no coordination, drooling, slurred speech.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
Am I being poisoned?

Speaker 2 (49:32):
We've joked about this before. Your stomach might be irritated, nausea, vomiting,
all that stuff. Stage two is twelve to thirty six hours,
where the signs of alcohol poisoning appear to kind of
go away, and some underlying severe internal damaging is damage
is happening. You might have an elevated heart rate, hyperventilation, decrease,

(49:53):
breathing effort, dehydration, blood pressure problems.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
Is our largest fan poisoning.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Can we get him down here right now?

Speaker 1 (50:02):
Possibly?

Speaker 2 (50:03):
I don't know if anyone's picking up or we're putting down,
but Sarah has pots and these are all symptoms of that.
And we joked on some episode with Judy one O
or whatever it was. It was a made up name,
so it doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
Yeah, it's made up. It was very made up.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
And during that one with the arsenic poisoning, we were like,
maybe Sarah's being.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
Just the only poisoning that I do to myself with
bada okay.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Stage three is twenty four to seventy two hours later,
and that's when kidney failure can happen. In cats, this
stage actually occurs twelve to twenty four hours after consuming
any freeze, and in dogs is thirty six to seventy
two hours. Probably depends on the size of the dog. Right,
That makes sense, which is why in humans it takes longer.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
Now also makes sense. Thank you for bringing animals into
it to make it click in my brain.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Google did it for me. Side like a real creeping
like symptoms of freeze poisoning. During this stage you have
severe kidney failure and then this like you've got more
crystals forming on the kidneys because of that, severe lethargy, coma,
vomiting seizures, drooling, red blood cells in the urine. These

(51:18):
are all medical terms. I can say. It does sound painful,
so we.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Can surmise and say that it's just really bad.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
It sounds really bad, really confusing, and really fast. Dare
I say from a Tuesday through Thursday or over a weekend? Yeah, okay.
A new cause of death is announced and this finally
becomes a homicide investigation. Although finally for Randy's death becomes
a homicide investigation, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation. The GBI

(51:53):
gets involved in. Lynn is kind of their main suspect.
I know, you're probably shocked.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
I cannot believe that they would even consider her.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
She was just a really unlucky widow. They start by
talking to Randy's close friends at the fire station, and
they said basically, Randy was super happy in the beginning
of their relationship, but as time went on things fell apart.
Mike Archer, in that the show I watched, said that
if Lynn married Randy, she would lose the pension death
benefits that she was receiving from Glenn. So that's likely

(52:23):
why they never got married. There it is.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
I was wondering, but I.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
Didn't know that's how that worked. Yeah. Earlier in their relationship,
Lynn insisted that Randy get life insurance with a high
payout and that she was the beneficiary. Obviously, they wrote
red flag. Yeah, so this is where I said, But
I'm sure they're framing it, like both of these men
have dangerous jobs or whatever. With Randy, it's like kids.
They've got kids and all that.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
But I mean, like, okay, bitch you too. If I'm
doing it, you're doing it.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Dah, you gotta get one too. So, like I said,
as time went on, things kind of broke down, Randy
spending more time sleeping on the couch or the fire
station and eventually moved out. Lynn had a ton of
maxed out credit cards, and one of Randy's sisters said
that they went shopping and she had like a stack
of credit cards with a rubber band around them, and

(53:14):
like went to pay for something and was like shuffling
through them. And Lynn had told I don't know if
it was a bank or if it was one of
the credit card places, like she was over her spending
limit or needed to make whatever payment, and she was
just like, don't worry, I'll take care of it soon.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
Don't worry, I'm going to kill my boyfriend.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
So on January next, two thousand and one, Randy had
plans to go out with some friends but called to
cancel because Lynn wanted to go to Longhorn Steakhouse with
the kids. Yes, okay, he went to her house and
then they went out to dinner and returned to his
apartment where he started to really not feel well. You know,
then we know what happened. He felt really sick, He
got the flu, he had a heart attack, and then

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he died.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
That had crystals that don't belong there.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
Right, okay, So they then they go to the er.
They come home and apparently Lynn had made him some
tea and a grilled cheese over the course of the weekend.
She stopped in, called his friends to stop in and
check on him, and then on the twenty second, he
was found dead in his apartment. The GBI also opened
a homicide investigation in Glenn's death because yes, at the table,

(54:23):
they exzuom his body and find that he also has
oxolate crystals in his system. So weird. His cause of
death has changed to ethelene glycol poisoning. And I bet
Mike was, like, I fucking told you so.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
I wasn't watching too much TV, you fucking asshole, right,
Like I get.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
To open hands slap everyone in here.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
Also, a whole other person is dead now because you
wanted to tell me. I was watching two Munch TV.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Right, yep, okay, but really they just have like it's circumstantial.
There's no like we can prove that you you were
the one that put this in to any of their
food or drink. Both men head eat or drink something
from shortly before their deaths. Remember the jello for Glenn
and the tea and grilled.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
Cheese for Randy. Also and grilled cheese. Oh wait, we're
in it's sweet tea. Never mind. I was thinking like
a hot tea and a grilled cheese because I live
in the north. Now.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
I really love that you just jumped to it's gotta
be sweet tea there in Georgia. I think it was
in the show. They had a picture.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
Yes, yeah, either way, it was not hot tea. It
was iced tea, is what I'm getting at. Yeah, I
think you're iced tea is not a common thing down.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Because it's always cold as fuck. It's almost fucking June
and it's like fifty degrees outside.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
It's true. I'm just saying from my experience from living
in southern Illinois.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
Do you want to hear something about me living in
New England? I really enjoy unsweetened iced tea.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
Okay, that's where my grandma used to make up. And
then whoever went into sweeten it just added sugar.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
Okay, because I was like, I'm from the opposite.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
No, so my grandma and my dad's side, she would
because my grandpa didn't look it sweet, so she would
always make a huge picture of sweet and tea, and
then whoever wanted it sweeten just added sugar. My mom,
on the other hand, she had like a fucking twelve
pounds of sugar to sweet tea.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Anyway. In both cases, right after the funeral, Lynn called
the life insurance companies to collect on the policies, but
in Randy's case, she was told that the policy actually
wasn't valid because Randy had missed some payments. Oh no,
she wouldn't get the two hundred thousand dollars that she
was expecting. Instead, a smaller thirty five thousand dollars policy

(56:30):
would pay out.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
It's almost like she shouldn't have been spending so much
money so he couldn't make payments.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
Yeah, or like, if you're super depressed and whatever about
your life falling apart, maybe your life insurance premium is
in top priority.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
That too, I just picture it because she's spending so
much money that he couldn't keep up.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Yeah, it could be that, like you got all this. Yeah.
At this point, Lynn hired a lawyer and was not
cooperating with the investigation.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
Weird, which like always hire a lawyer, I mean, yes,
obviously always lawyer.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
But like the case went to a grand jury and
they indicted Lynn, they got a warrant for her arrest,
but she actually surrendered herself. The prosecution didn't seem super
confident in their case, and in that show they also
said like that she had the two best defense lawyers
in the area, so they were like, it's a circumstantial case.
We don't have any like solid evidence.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
You told me she gets off on this dirty what
it's a dirty it's a get off because that's a child.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
I have to it's Sarah's bedtime, the okay. The trial
of for Glenn's murder hinged on whether or not the
judge would allow the prosecution to bring up Randy's death
to establish a pattern of behavior. The judge took several
days and wrote a lengthy order that allowed Randy's death
to be brought up in trial. During the trial, Lynn
was taking notes the whole time whispering to her lawyer.

(57:51):
Everyone said that she was very cool, calm and collected,
not stressed out at all. There's one picture, and maybe
that's the one that I'll use for the graphic, that
she's like at a table and she's got her How
do I discribe this for people just listening, She's like
leaning on her elbow with her face in one hand
like this, like she's bored, and like her faces look sad.

(58:11):
She's not crying, she's not whatever. She just like looks
bored annoying.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
Wow, if I were sitting watching somebody else's trial, I
would still be so anxious that I couldn't sit and
look bored, like I couldn't imagine doing that at my
own trial.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
The prosecution brought in a vet tech as a witness.
This tech said that Lynn had come into the clinic
and asked how they euthanized animals, Like, what kind of
drugs do you guys use?

Speaker 1 (58:38):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (58:38):
The tech said that they use an injection and that
you have to have a license to get the drugs
that are in that. And then Lynn asked if Annie
freeze would kill a cat like it would kill a dog.
Imagine somebody saying that too. I would be like, Hi,
give me your pets.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
I'd be Hi, I'm following you home and calling the
police so they can remove you.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
Give me your pets. Yes, right now, you can't have that.
I'm allergy to cats. But I'd be like, I'll give
Sarah this cat.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
I yes. It's like she knew you were coming. She
literally was in Connor's room all day sleeping. Five minutes
before you got here, she came out. She was walking
around the house. She was sitting on the calendar.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
Let me dander. That's all.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
I think they're waiting for you too. I think we've
mentioned her before.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
I think we have. I don't know if I ever
cut it, but I have to take allergy medicine to
come over.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
Literally as soon as I saw her come out, I
just sat the allergy pills on the counter and take this.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
Yeah, she knows I'm not adult enough to take my
own allergy massine. Okay. They also actually made Andie Frieze
jello to prove that it would set up and present
like regular jello. Who tested it the medical examiner he
ate it, he put I okay, that's the loudest Arrah's
ever bent on this. Okay, So he didn't eat the jello,

(59:48):
but he put some anti freeze into some tea and
swished it around his mouth to see if it tasted off.
Its fucking wild and then he like stood out and
they were like, what precrassious did you take? And he
was like, I rinsed my mouth out after.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
I don't know that I trust his Okay, all right,
He's like, you know what, what if I just let's
not invalidate him now, Jesus Christ, I guess that's how
science moves forward. And somebody's gonna tousk.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
He's like, I can't give it to anyone else ethically.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
I mean, he's not wrong. He could not give it
to anybody else. He's like, I guess I'm doing it.
The defense was.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
Like, okay, guys, it's not weird that Lynn left Lee alone.
Remember she went out to the store the next morning.
The air said it was the flu. Also, if she
was as smart and calculating as you imply, how do
you explain some of these facts that make her look
just like stupid, like the insurance she walked away with
only thirty five thousand dollars. After Randy died a smarter

(01:00:42):
killer would have maybe checked on that before it lapsed,
before she killed him.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
She was too busy finding her next fucking boyfriend. Sorry
I'm jumping ahead and Sleeza's notes.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
No, I don't know. Okay, So with the HI, why
does she look so stupid if you think she's so calculating?
What about like how she didn't destroy any of the evidence,
like the jello or the tea that was still there
when police came after the men died. I mean, at
the end of the day, the thing that was left
was that both men had the crystals in their system.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
Oh, and they both were very focused on having a
life insurance policy left to just.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
Her, that's totally normal. Don't bring that up for Glenn's
murder death, the defense said, well, you know, for crystals
in his body. Lynn said that he was hallucinating and
tried to drink something that looked like gasoline. But what
if it was any freeze and not gasoline and he
drank that instead, then.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
She still should Then she still didn't do I think
due diligent.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
I think even if he drank even a tiny bit
of gasoline, right, that's her.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
You call someone, right, and that's like that's her duty
as his spouse, who somebody is clearly not a sound
of sound mind like that is your role is to
like make sure they're they're okay and not harming themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
They also said, could it have come from embalming fluid
after his stuff? But is this in the next sentence
before I jump ahead? Yes? Okay, So prosecution brought on
someone who said that the type of embalming fluid used
in Glenn's and can't I make it? Hold on, they
brought on a witness that said that the type of
embalming fluid that the funeral home used did not contain

(01:02:23):
ethylene glihol. But I guess the records from the funeral
home had been destroyed.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
Not really sure, Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
How or why? Yeah, So they were like, Glenn died
in a large heart and if he had ethelyn guy
call left in his body, They're really just like it's
got to be from the funeral home. Records were destroyed.
We can't prove yes or no on that. We're rambling that.
And then for Randy, the defense said that he probably
drank the interfreeze in a third suicide attempt.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
Okay, I don't believe that he had any suicide attempts.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
You think she poisoned him? All I did. I think
that from what I remember, because remember I did this
before a crisis, it seemed like he admitted to taking
the sleeping pills.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
Maybe okay, all right, well then I will retract that.
But either way I to switch to something that like,
it's not a peaceful exit with Anna Freeze, and I
just don't see. No, it's taking awful right, it's brutal
like so I couldn't imagine somebody purposely choosing that route,

(01:03:28):
I guess, is what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
On May fourteenth, two thousand and four, after five hours
of deliberations, the jury came back and Lynn was found
guilty and sentenced to life in prison.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
Those jurors, what I said, praise those jurors, the first
say that you're saying, praise the Jesus. No, the jurors.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
Yeah. Glenn's family was obviously relieved, but his sister said that,
you know, it was a wide range of emotions, and
she was also thinking about Lynn's two kids that have
now lost both of their parents.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
Yes, but I imagined that she was that great of
a parent when she was so focused on being out
and spending money and being the life of the party
for other.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
People, right. I think that it's also like thinking about
the kids, like they should have they should have had better. Yes,
you know, like obviously Lynn should be in jail. Yeah,
Randy shouldn't be murdered.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
But yeah, I mean obviously it's in the end.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
That's all I think, just thinking like that's all stuff
that unfortunately those kids are all going to have to process.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
Yeah, But from another perspective of it is I also
couldn't imagine like if I were those kids and growing
up my whole life with my mom there, but then
later on finding all that she murdered my dad, because
then that taints everything everything else.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
The trial for Randy's murder was basically the same as Glenn's.
I mean, those two relationships were like copy paste. Yeah,
she had an m Yeah. Lynn was also found guilty
of his murder. Praise those jurors as well, Praise all
the durors. On a thirtieth, twenty ten, and was found
dead in her prison cell. She had overdosed on her

(01:05:05):
blood pressure medication. I didn't mean to laugh at that.
I'm laughing at Swar's reaction. That second O was like.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
I'm just saying I take blood pressure medication, so I
can't like I'm thinking like symptoms that I have from it.
But like that means she made herself feel like shit
because she obviously wasn't taking them, she was cheating them
and then collected enough to like take them all at
once and then so that, you know what, I don't
feel bad for.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
Detective Charles Mesaregos, who initially investigated Glenn's death, apologized to
the families on the show that I watched and said
that he learned a lot from the case and can
do better. I think knowing that someone else died because
how Glenn's death was investigated, like really wait on him. Yeah,
and also just like if Glenn's family hadn't been so
persistent and his mom hadn't reached out to Randy's family,

(01:05:50):
she would have gotten away with it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
And possibly did it to somebody else.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
Yeah, I will say I can appreciate that he was
able to see that he missed something and able to say,
like to acknowledge, right, because you know, sometimes people are
just like.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
When you try to So he's interviewed on the show
and when he said that at the end, I was
like genuinely surprised because you don't often you know, law enforcement.
You got good, good and bad with all of it
or whatever. It's very rare that you have anyone Yeah
who acknowledges, Yeah, acknowledge like, oh I could have it,

(01:06:27):
could have done better publicly, I mean publicly. Yeah whatever,
good for him. Yeah, But that's that's my case for
the week. It's a Sarah case in the nineties. It's great,
it's not arsic. It's a Sarah case, but it's in
the nineties, and that's when people used in a freeze.
That's my second in freeze.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
I was gonna say, I thought you had done another
in a freeze on It's that was like in Syracuse,
wasn't it, or somewhere around somewhere out Yeah, fucking wild.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
I think it's crazy that even in the Knees, you
could be in the same state, like literally just a
couple of counties away and do the same exact thing,
and literally Glenn's mom or Mike Archer, right, if people
just gave up or just just took it out, whatever,
if they didn't connect the two, if if Glenn's mom

(01:07:16):
didn't write that letter to Randy's mom.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
Yeah, because the sister wrote her off. The sister was like, no,
I'm grieving, I want nothing to which I understand why
I do not blame this is say that that's a
reasonable response, you know, because some random person is contacting you.
But yeah, had she not reached out, and.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
Had they been persistent with it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
And had they not reached back out and be like yeah, okay,
let's do this, yeah, then like like I yeah, it's
great that they were able to like see beyond and
connect and figure the fuck out because law enforcement wasn't
at the time. And then that the fact that they
did get law enforcement to look back into it, I'm
really surprised.

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
That law enforcement wasn't more persistent with it, being like
he's whatever, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
It's it's so weird. I don't know, it's it's just
so weird. You're what's the word. I don't know. I
don't even know how to say what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
I don't know. I can't read your mind.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
I don't want to say profession Like, it's just the
connections are weird. It's almost as like we're just gonna
make sure everything is it looks peachy, key to the public. Okay,
you know what I mean, I'm trying to word that
and I cannot cause my brain.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
So so looking into Glenn's death would have made the
department looks bad.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
Right because they both worked for the department, right, and like,
we can't we don't want to acknowledge that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
I guess I would just assume that the bros would
be like, she murdered our buddies.

Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
But you got to think beyond regular patrol officers, which is, yeah,
it goes higher ups or whatever, and then they have
higher ups telling them what to do, you know what
I mean, Like there's the chain of command and you're
following whatever the top tells you to.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
Yeah, that's why Mike when he was reassured and reassured.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
Right, So it's you know, it's kind of like that
if the top is saying, no, we're we're gonna do
the bare minimum here, then you're doing the bare minimal
because that's what you were told to do.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
Yeah, that's not my brain works.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
Same good luck, tell me to do the bare minimum
because my brain will not allow Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
So my sources were so it's a show called Charmed
to Death and the episode was titled dispatched.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
I hate it. I hate everything about that, everything about it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
I will say that they had the good thing about
that show was that they had instead of just like
a talking head, it was people who knew like Glenn okay, yeah, okay,
and knew Lynn. So there was a lot of information
coming from the people who knew who knew them directly.
The way that they framed it the whole thing. I
was like, not a huge fan of ye sorry, Charmed

(01:09:44):
death hashtag not whatever. There was also some Wikipedia. I
don't know if I really pulled from that. That's one
of the first things I looked at, though. There's an
episode on the Crime Library. And then there was an
NBC article from two thousand and six by Dennis Murphy
where he in reviews families from both sides, and I
told heavily from there with stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
So wow, all right, you got me with a semi
Sarah case.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
It was like a you do old timey Sarah cases
A minor knew tiny the nineties. Listen, it just happened yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
I was born just yesterday. Yeah, that was that was
an interesting I don't know how I've never come across
that one. I don't know. I haven't really looked at
many Georgia cases though.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
So that I didn't specifically look at.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
Well, no, I know. I'm just saying like, I'm just
thinking like that portion of the country. Not really Now
I'm gonna have to see.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
You any you know what I think. Like a month ago,
I was looking for a Sarah type case, but not
old timey because I've.

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
Covered it was so this was Yeah, that was an
interesting one. I've never heard that one before. Fucking Lynn
and Julia that was her legal first name. Oh, why
would you do I Lynn instead of Julia. I don't know,
especially being a party girl. I don't know. In my head,
Julia sounds more of a party girl than Lynn.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
I'm saying, Okay, if you are Julia or Lynn, weigh
in on.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
Whether you're We're going to have so many lins being like, listen, bitch,
I'm the life of the party.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
And you also use Dana Freeze. Please don't please don't
do that. We do not condone any violence.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
Zero violence.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
All right, I've rambled enough you can find. Yeah, we
do this. I don't know, is this is what I do?

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
We were supposed to do it earlier tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
Yeah, we forgot again, all right. So you can find
us on Facebook at The Ship Show, a true crime podcast.
You can find us on Instagram, Twitter, X whatever the
fuck it is.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
It's X three years.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
I'm never I just can't. It's not in your's. It
started Twitter, It's going to always be Twitter anyways. That's
at the Ship Show, Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
I was like, where did you leave off? I truly
wasn't paying attention. You can email us at Shit SHOWTCP
at gmail dot com case suggestions, tell me how I
was wrong today. Please, I need somebody else to tell
me how I was wrong. At least make it funny.
I don't know. Please please subscribe and review on Apple Podcasts.
That just helps push us out to more people. More

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people need to know what it were funny yeah obviously,
And on Spotify you can like and comment obviously, share
us with your friends. And I think that's all we
have for this fucking week. Thanks for listening. Bye kay
bye