78. The Springfield Three

This week, Talysa cover the disappearance of The Springfield Three. Who else would like to get some ground penatrating radar on that hospital parking structure?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hey, I'm t Lisa and I am Sarah. Welcome to
the Shit Show a half That's True CRAM podcast. It
only took us twenty minutes to set up today. Yeah. Well,
I don't know what's happening. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
For some reason, my camera is zoomed in more than normal.
No clue what setting got changed or how We're just
we're going with it.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Yeah, it's fine. I meant to put allergy medicine in
my car to take after work on the way here,
and I forgot.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
I meant to set it out on my kitchen counteror
so you just grab it when you came in, and
I also forgot.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
It's been great allergic to all the cats.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Yeah, I was thinking about earlier when I was thinking
about putting the medicine up for you, and I've come
to the conclusion that we're just gonna like microdose you
with cat until you get used to it.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
I think that only works with kids for the shot.
And I like that you said microdose. It's like little doses.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
And then maybe someday my cat that hates anybody that's
not in our family will sit in your lap.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
She's already I kind of tried to sit in my lap.
I don't understand. What do you mean? She doesn't like anyone.
She's like, Hi, you, I want to be I next
to you. Okay. It's like she can sense that she's
about to kill me. See everybody says she's so bitchy,
but she's she's not why she's trying to kill me?
What do you mean, Well, I mean only because you're
allergic to her. She doesn't know that. I think she
can sense it. I had to take her to the

(01:19):
bat on Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Wednesday, they called me and they're like, hey, do you
still have Gaba Patton from hershmallow? We see she has
an appointment coming up on Friday, and I'm like, yeah,
I still do.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
I'm not sure how much.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
And then she's like this is a vettech and she's like, oh,
actually the doctor put in a prescription for trasodone for her.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
She's a fucking saying.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Because I was gonna say it's to knock her out, right, yeah, okay.
So she's like it's fifty milligrams. It's higher than she's
had in the past because she's had to have trasadone
to go to the VAT in the past, and it
was just a yearly check up. Because they prescribe her
food they really good to higher dose than normal, so
she might be a little more like out of it
than normal. I'm like cool, whatever, give her the meds.
Two hours before the appointment, like I was supposed to

(02:01):
get there, she's already like fucking kissing at everybody as
soon as you walk through the door. And then they
finally take us back into the room, which this place
is usually like like you have an appointment you're in
at that time, like when I'm with Remy always and
immediately fucking sitting there with my cat who hates everybody.
We were there for like forty five minutes past to
our appointment.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Oh, they probably had some kind of emergency, right well,
it wasn't busy in there, so I wasn't like whatever, yeah,
because there was only like one other person in the
lobby with me at the time, and she was just
waiting to pay her bill, like she didn't have her
pet with her, Like she's like cute cat, you psycho, Well.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
She's like, oh pretty cat, she all white, and then
she has stood of ma yep, and she's evil and
she's drug right now and she's still this way, So
we take her back into the room. They're like, are
you sure you're gonna be okay handing her or whatever?
TECH ask like, oh, you gave her a chasm tresdone?
What time to give it to her?

Speaker 1 (02:51):
How she doing with it?

Speaker 2 (02:52):
You know? Do you think it's helping her? I'm like,
she's definitely sleepy, but she's definitely still extremely moody. She's like,
thank you for being honest with me. I'm like, you're
I see you in two seconds. Anyway, I'm gonna lie
to you and be like, no, she's totally fine. So
we ended up the vat tuck, which I could have
helped her just fine. They stressed out, like like the
first time we ever took Marshmallow there, she's swatted at

(03:12):
me when I was trying to put her reck in
the crate and the veat started freaking out and like
it was like trying to use her stuff the scope
to stop her from swatting at me. And I'm like,
I just cut her nails yesterday, Like she's she's she's
I think there's some liability thing or maybe I'm like
because I know at my vet, I don't have a cat,
because I I'm allergic to them, but they like don't
want me handling my dogs.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Like oh, they're like, you know, like poor Rudy gets
stressed out when she's there or whatever. And if she's
I need to get her a equoyment for her shots anyway,
like if I'm trying to hold her mind to you
or whatever, they'll be like, Nope.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
We don't really see they always have us help hold Chris.
Remy's sucking a ginormous dog too, Like I don't know.
I just assumed it was some kind of like, oh,
I don't know if they have us helped hold Remy
when he has to get shots and everything, which she's fucking.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
He's fine, the.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Seventy seven pound dogs, fine, it's the eleven pound cattle,
tiny cat.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yeah, So she checked out well as much as they could.
They couldn't really give her like a full exam. She
hasted the doctor as soon as she came in the room,
and she's like her teeth look really nice and think
that's the only time we're gonna see O. But yeah,
so she's she checked out, She's fine. She's still a
moody little asshole. I was.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
I almost just said, she's still a cat. She's still
a cat. But yeah, that was quite the adventure taking
her to the vat Friday. Yeah, and then just I
don't know it.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
I guess like in those moments, I'm just like my
fight or flight is like, why are we We're in
a traumatic situation right now? Why is everybody freaking out?
Is that a traumatic situation? Well for them for everyone else.
But yeah, she's she's fine, she's on. She just had
to have her like gravy shot and whatnot on. But
then like the most basic things that like they'd ask

(04:46):
questions and it's like, oh, yeah, we do this, Like
every time I go, there's like, oh, you're a really
great pet or yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Pet parent, and I'm like, am I not? Like do
people not do these like this show?

Speaker 2 (04:54):
So people don't think sucks if you tuck, I want
your pet, give me your pets, right, not apparently not
cats though, by doing the basic bare minimum, I'm like
gold Star and I'm like, okay, you can keep telling.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Me that, right, I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yeah, But that was my eventful Friday. Oh I saw
you Friday too, Oh that was Friday.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
That was Friday. Yep. Yeah, and got a couple of drinks.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
You and Kenton had beer and I had not Han
Cranberry because I don't like I panics when she first asked,
because like I didn't even get a chance to look
to see like what else they had, So like I
just went to my like a good, good grameber.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Like I would just like a beer because I'm a
normal person. Theater is the most disgusting. That's a lie.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
I was gonna say, I'd rather take a shot at
bad because that's no completely, I would rather take zero shots,
not that person that was your.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Friday from the vet to beers with me.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yeah, and Kent and I went to a really nice
dinner prior to that. That tweets the ruined for me
that I.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Can't say why sorry, I've never been there.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
So the food is really good, it is really it
is expensive, yeah, which we this is our second time there,
and the first time we went, Sony bought me a
gift card for my birthday so late, so it was
the second time we've been there.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
It is. It is a nice restaurant.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
The food is good, but it is definitely not something
that I would like go too often because it like
I'm a cheapest fuck persons.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
I hope everyone is enjoying this restaurant review from Central
New York. Without the name of the restaurant, You're quite welcome.
So I'm just still thinking about the scallops because they
were good. I don't have much of an f D.
I don't know spring sports are done through the school.
We still have Anthony, like one kid, and a sport
is not a big deal, not one. You normally have
three and right different places coordinate everyone's shit. So we

(06:36):
have a nice little break from that. And I also
had a nice Friday.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yeah, because you guys to go have beers something, because
I had beers with Sarah.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah, that's I. Yeah, a nice weekend. So I'm going
to cut all that. Before I was going to jump
right into I was like getting ready to pull my
thing out.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Yeah okay, so before Tisa gets into her case, we'll
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We're not drugging my cat. This sounds Yeah, that sound dude.
We are exposing Lisa to my cat. No way, no wait,

(07:40):
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I'm mildly funny. Okay, So this week I'm going to
be covering the Springfield three. Okay, have you heard of
this case?

Speaker 2 (08:00):
I feel like I need more information before I can
say yes, Okay, but I feel like, yes, I think
this is one, Like it's I feel like it's kind
of well known.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
I feel like I always say that though, because like
I've consumed so much true crime that I feel like everything,
like everybody must know the same things as me. Yeah. So,
Cheryl Levitt and her daughter Suzanne Streeter in the seventh Nope,
seventeen hundred block of East Delmar Street Street. I'm dying
in Springfield, Missouri in nineteen ninety two. So Suzanne had

(08:28):
just graduated from Kickapoo High School during the evening of
June sixth, nineteen ninety two, and I left when I
saw that too.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
I would have canceled whole case just based off that.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
I couldn't listen this. I don't know if this needs
to stand. But I looked at a million cases like
you did. I almost did, like Richard Chase, and then
I didn't because there's like a child murder. Yeah. The
first case that I was going to do, I had
it all pulled up and ready to go, and I
was like, that is actually a horrific child murder. Yeah,
And I didn't realize it.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
TI.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
I had like four pages written and I was like, well,
fuck this, I don't want to do that this week.
So I had to stick with this, even though there
was a silly word right off the bat. Okay, great,
so we'll allow it, thank you. So okay, like I said,
she graduated on the evening of June sixth, nineteen ninety two.
She spent the early part of her of her evening
having dinner at home with her mom, Cheryl, So Suzanne

(09:20):
and her friend Stacy McCall planned to spend the night
at a hotel in Branson, Missouri. They decided to stay
at another friend's house in Battlefield, Missouri instead, and Suzanne
had called her mom at like ten thirty to discuss
those plans. I don't they were like graduation party hopping. Okay.
So their original plan was to go stay in this
hotel because they were going to go to an amusement

(09:41):
park the next day. And they were like, you know what,
just kidding, we want to hang out their friends and
we'll still go to the water park. I think it
was a water park the next day with some friends.
I'm gonna go with six flags, that's my guest. I
think they have it in here. I don't really eat
six flags. So Cheryl called a friend at around eleven
fifteen that evening and she was painting I think a dresser,

(10:04):
but the articles and I don't know if this is
the Midwest thing. A chest of drawers, that's just a dresser, right, yeah, Okay,
So she's painting a chest of drawers and gave no
indication that anything was like wrong inside her house or
just a regular evening. You know, my daughter's out with
her friends. She just graduated, like.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Whatever, we're in the nine, So like parents question, nothing
right well, and like Susannah just called it ten thirty
and said, change of plans.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
I'm sleeping over at this person's house.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
So it seems like mom clearly probably trusts her because
she's comfortable enough to be like, hey, just kidding, we're
actually doing the sight instead of.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah, but you know, let me know what being in
the I have a braind up, being of a field
drum persing, Yeah, I wouldn't know anything about that life.
So Suzanne and Stacy actually ended up coming back to
Cheryl's house at approximately two fifteen in the morning. They
decided that their friend's house was too crowded because they
were hosting their own graduation party and had like out
of town family friend. They're like, I'm not sleeping on

(11:02):
the floor. Let's just drive back, right. People at that
party overheard Suzanne talking about how she was excited to
show Stacy her new king sized waterbed. That is the
most nineties thing I wrote, the most nineties sentence. It
is literally the post nineties thing, So they planned to
meet their friends at Whitewater Amusement Park in Branson later

(11:23):
that day, on June seventh, the girls drove their separate
vehicles to Cheryl's house and then neither they or Cheryl
were ever heard from again.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Okay, So they drove to back to her mom's house yep,
and then disappeared.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
And then the three of them disappeared into thin air.
Yeah okay. Neighbors said that they didn't hear anything suspicious
around the home in the overnight hours, and then one
of the girls and girl's friends and her boyfriend, I
think it was the one that they were originally planning
to stay at their house, or it was the overcrowded house,
Like one of those two called the house I think
to be like, hey, are we still on for the

(11:58):
Euston Park. I mean, we were all up till two
fifteen in the morning.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
I don't like, have I been up all night and
then still functioned all day the next day?

Speaker 1 (12:08):
I don't know how I ever did that. Okay. So,
like one of those two friends and they ended up
actually going to the house because they were like, that's
so weird that no one is there, No one's answer. Yeah,
I wrote, and I'm not sure if this is completely
true that they went there several times during the day
and in an attempt to locate the three women, but
I will say and probably say this after I scroll

(12:30):
down a little. Multiple people came to the house looking
for them. Okay, but mom wasn't there. Mom wasn't there either,
So it's the mom and the two teenage girls. Okay,
that's right, that's the three there. Stacy's family ended up
calling the police about the disappearances by the evening of
June seventh. She also reported to police that the glass
lampshade on the porch light was shattered, but the light

(12:51):
bulb itself was intact. So the friend in the friend's
boyfriend that went to the house, the boyfriend actually helped
sweep up the broken glass off the porch, which police later.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Said was like potential evidence, like we would have liked
to see how it was. Yeah, but he said that
he swept it up because his girlfriend was barefoot. Oh well,
and also like that your friend something you know, when
you're going to get to it, you're not thinking, oh
my god, they're missing.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
I need to preserve all of this evidence because I'm
a teenage police officer. Yeah, but the light bulb was
not broken. It was like the shade thing that goes
around it, which is kind of weird. I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
I've been a kid and have broken a glass light
shade thingy a time or two. How what I don't know,
turn balls in the house or swinging, but that that
I shouldn't be swinging in the house. Actually, that was
my cousin that did that one, so it's not my fault.
But oh okay, So I'm just saying like it is
possible depending on how it was hit to like, because

(13:49):
that thing they're still fudging, fudging, so fragile.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah, from now on, we're not swearing on this podcast.
We're staying fudging, fucking I don't know what happened there. Yeah,
liked it.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
I mean they're so fragile, like the but I would
have taken like the light bulb would break too. But
I think it just depends on how it was hit.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Honestly, fair my opinion on childhood. I didn't know that
you were an expert on that. Nigel Kenny, a coworker
and close friend of Suzanne, said that she was a
creature of habit and was really particular about parking her
vehicle in the same spot of the driveway every day,
he or she Nigel, I would say, they they believe

(14:29):
that because her car was not in her normal spot,
that somebody else may have parked the car in the
driveway and when she and Stacy arrived in the middle
of the night, but I would argue, like, they've been
at eleventy billion parties, right, I'm sure they were drinking.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Absolutely, Yeah, yeah, that's because I am very much a
creature of habit.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Or what if somebody else was parked in her spot?

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Right?

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Those what I was Thinking's like, but then who would
that be?

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Right?

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Right? I like, how I just agreed with myself. Okay,
all of the women's personal belongings were discovered inside the house.
Their vehicles were parked at home, although I guess not
in the exact right configuration Cheryl's. Okay. All of the
articles say Cheryl's bed appeared to have been slept in
during the previous night, And I'm like, how the fuck
would you know? Right, I don't make my bed, so

(15:15):
I generally don't like my bed right now is not made.
Sometimes I'm like, like, if I change the sheets that day.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
I fully make my bed, but like in general.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Maybe they just meant like because it wasn't made. Like,
let's say Cheryl always made her bed, so friends and
family could say, well, then she definitely was in bed
at some point, right, So, Cheryl's eyeglasses were beside her
bed and a book was turned over like she was
sitting up in bed reading and then got interrupted. The
family's Yorkshire terrier named Cinnamon was still inside the house

(15:47):
but appeared to be really anxious. All of Cheryl's belongings
were untouched and the TV was turned on. There was
no sign of struggle in the residence besides that porschlight.
Which is that a sign of struggle or is it
just Sarah with a bad who knows? No additional physical
evidence was discovered at the scene. Okay, so remember the
friend and the boyfriend that were at the house. You know,
they went into the house. That door was unlocked. They

(16:09):
go in, find the dog, find all their the women's stuff, Yeah,
that they should have left with. And the friend answered
a strange and disturbing call from an unidentified male who
made quote unquote sexual innuendos. She hung up immediately. She
no She hung up and immediately received another call of
like what was called sexual nature, and again hung up
the phone. She said the calls were jarring, but she

(16:32):
remembered Suzanne complaining about prank calls at the residence since
they had moved in in the spring of nineteen eighty two,
so they just moved in earlier that year, it sounds
like they had been getting these print calls from some weirdo.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Print calls were just a really big thing in the
nice like I don't know, but the sexual nature of them.
But like I was gonna say, I don't think you
need to see like but like just it was usually
like you call your friend's house in a weird voice
annoy their dad, Like.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Yeah, which I was.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
I'm trying to think, I don't have a ton of
memories making friend calls. But then I also just remembered
that I just don't like making.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Vocals making phone calls to begin with it. According to
the Springfield Police Departments, I don't know if that's chief
of police. I think I just left out his whole title.
The guy's name is David Asher. He said the calls
were quote obscene. The individual would not identify himself. They
were using the F word and several other words, and
she just hung up the phone. The friend described the

(17:27):
caller as teenish, so like not sounding like a grown man.
I just thought it was funny. The cop was like,
he used the F word, yeah, fudging. I just tried
really hard not to so, with no sign of her friends,
that friend and her boyfriend decided to go to the
local water park, Hydroslide in Springfield instead of white Water
and Branson. I think just it was closer, and they're like, well,

(17:49):
we've spent most of our day sweepy mp glass and
trying to fight. They obviously made other plans because, like
you said, you don't ever think like right, well, and
like my friend was kidnapped from here, you think, well
they left with her mom's friend or something like right,
keep hitting the table.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Well, and we were in a timeframe of like you
wait by a payphone for twenty minutes to see I
your friend's gonna call you back or not like right,
Like it's not like today where you can text or write,
track their location or you know things like that. You
just had to kind of be like, oh, I guess
they made different plans and then move on with your life. Yeah, Okay,
So the friend leaves goes to the other water park.

(18:26):
Several hours later, Stacy's mom, Janie, also visited the house
as her daughter failed to answer her calls like all night.
Because apparently when your kid or friend doesn't answer your
text or anything, you go to that last place that
they were seeing.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Correct at six o'clock in the morning. Guys, I didn't
communicate effectively with Sarah and she may have panicked and
like almost showed up at a place that I was at. Yeah,
because she's a good friend, but it almost happened. And
we've learned from this experience. What if we learned that
t Lisa's bad at texting back communication is key? Okay.
So us had friends who knew some employees at the

(19:03):
Whitewater Amusement Park and she became really panicked after they
confirmed that the girls had not been seen there. Okay,
So she goes inside the residence. The family dog, Cinnamon,
she said, was like barreling towards her, like freaking out.
I'm like he was probably like, where the fuck are
my people?

Speaker 2 (19:20):
And also you're now the third renal person just walking
into my space?

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yeah, the fuck are you? Yorkshire Terriers? Are really little,
aren't they. Yeah, they're little. They're not the white ones. No,
that's a Westie. I don't know an thing about little dogs.
They're cute, they're little.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Originally, when we first got a dog, I wanted a
Yorky because we live in an apartment.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
So I'm like a small dog or a small So
you compromise and got a German shepherd. Yes, okay. Janie
noticed that all three women's purses were sitting on the
floor of Suzanne's bedroom. Cheryl's purse still had a cash
deposit of over eight hundred dollars from her work at
a hair salon, as also saw. Janis also saw her
daughter's clothing need folded from the night before in the

(20:01):
bedroom as well. It's the only clothes that Stacy had
with her, like she didn't bring a change of clothes.
There were recently used makeup wipes from the girls found
along with their jewelry and keys. Cheryl and Suzanne's cigarettes
were left inside the house as well, which was considered
unusual because I guess Cheryl's friends and family said that
she was a chain smoker.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
I just chuckled a little bit because as Cheryl and Suzanne,
who was the eighteen year old, her own back of
cigarettes still was left home. I think, I mean yeah
back then, Yeah, once she turned eighteen, you could legally smoke, and.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Everybody was it's eight still eighteen, No, it was twenty one. Now, okay,
I'm sorry, it's not funny.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
That's good. We should be right not letting children smoke.
I just love that I didn't know. Oh I knew
because my grandpa used to send to me with a
note to buy his cigarettes.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Right when I wasn't eighteen yet. Oh my gosh. Okay.
There was an unfinished can of coke found next to
Suzanne's pack of cigarettes. On her headboard.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
There was a book Oh the Place Steal Go by
Doctor Seuss. Because she just graduated. I need to pull
Connors out and send it to school.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
The lights were off in Suzanne's room and her TV
was showing snow, which suggested that they had watched a
movie the night before but never turned the TV off
after it was finished. Do you know what I'm what
I mean? You were looking at me.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Like, no, I just live all of these things that
are popping up that are from our childhood, Like it's.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
The waterbed, the childhood cigarettes in my head of water.
But yeah, yeah, so when I say the TV was
showing snow, I mean like stanstatic.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yeah that but fact not that it matters to any slightest.
That's how I explained my nerve bean to Kenton when
like my they're on fire, and that's what I pictured
my brain. That's why I mean nerves are doing.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
They're like shut us off basically. So Jannis called the
police from the homes telephone and reported the through them missing.
After placing the call, while checking the phone's answering machine,
she listened to what was described as a strange, strange message,
but it was accidentally and it was common for like
voice messages in the nineties to delete after only being

(22:06):
played once. That could be.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
A depending on what were like setting or whatever. So
I keep thinking about how all three persons were in
the same room and how that like that, but like
all that money was still left in Cheryl's That's what
I'm yeah, Like I keep going back to like they
were all left in the and sus answer and he said,
or anyway, whatever room they were all three together.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
I don't remember if it was Susans or if it
was Cheryl.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Either way, they were all taken to a room somebody's bedroom,
all left there untouched. But like if it was just
the girls doing it, they wouldn't have you know what
I mean, Like they wouldn't have all put their purses
in mom's room.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
No, they would have put their purses in Susann's rum.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Right, So I don't know what that part really is,
like stuck in here like that's yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Police were obviously very interested in the call and the
or not the call the message and believed that it
may contain a clue, but they also didn't believe that
it was connected to the prank calls that the friend
had received earlier when she was there. I don't know
if it was just drastically different. Maybe Janice described it
as being like sounded like an older man, where the

(23:09):
friend described it as a younger. But I think it's
weird that they would say that they're not connected.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah, because you can't really make that assumption without having
more information, right.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Authorities later admitted that the crime scene had possibly why
do I writ possibly probably definitely was tainted by the ten
to twenty loved ones that visited Cheryl's house after the
disappearances are we back in.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
The early nineteen hundreds, where we just had a fucking
party when somebody died and everybody gets to walk through it.
I forgot about so many other people going through it.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
No one realized the seriousness of the situation until nearly
twenty four hours later. Officers left a note on the
door of the house asking her to call the police
department to cancel the missing person's report. When she and
the girls returned home.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
The tracks it sounds very much of the time.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, but like I don't know, they're like, oh, they
all just they graduated yesterday. They're probably out celebrating. They
were already planning on leaving for right yesterday. There's no
cell phone, it's not.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yeah, nobody got a hold get a hold of you.
Nobody knows what's going on. They we just need to
make sure you're okay, all right, Which, since you're telling
me this case, I'm going to assume that they're not
okay anyway.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
So Cheryl had a doctor's appointment scheduled on Monday, June eighth,
nineteen ninety two. She was also scheduled to work later
that week at the hair salon. Acy was scheduled to
work on June eighth as well at the Springfield Gymnastics Center,
and Susanna was scheduled to work at a local movie
theater on Tuesday at four pm. And none of the
women would arrive for these dates. An extensive search of

(24:40):
surrounding areas produced no clues about where they could be.
They looked into this guy named Robert Craig Cox, who
was a convicted robber serving time on some unralliated charges
in a Texas prism. He was identified early on as
a possible suspect in the case because he had been
convicted of murder in Florida. His conviction was reversed and

(25:01):
then he went back to Springfield, and so he was
in the area at this time. Sure, I'm going off
my notes. Cox lived in Springfield at the time, as
I just said one second ago, and he had worked
with Stacy's father at a local car dealership. He like
initially told investigators that he was not in Springfield in
the Springfield area on June seventh, but later recanted this statement.

(25:22):
He told a journalist much later on. Years later, he
told a journalist that he knew the woman had been
murdered and buried near Sheryl's home, but he claimed that
there remains would never be discovered. Sarah, how can you
say I know that but you weren't. Authorities are uncertain
if Cox was involved in the case or if he
was seeking attention by issuing false statements. He's never been

(25:42):
charged in connection with the disappearances. Just maybe he was
a fucking shad sounds like it. I mean, he definitely
is a fucking chad.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
I mean he possibly murdered another person and was then
again in prison for robbery.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
So I think I looked up. So he's still in prison,
but he was like a for parole in twenty twenty five.
Just kidding, We don't think you're a shit. I'm not joking,
like in the process of like his parles being reviewed
or something. Anyway, may this podcast never find him?

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Witness reported seeing a woman matching Suzanne's description driving an
older model moss green Dodge van later during the day
on June seventh. This witness claimed that the woman appeared
to be terrified as an unseen male voice told her quote,
don't do anything stupid. The witness didn't contact investigators with
this account until several days later. So, like I don't

(26:33):
know if the van like rolled up to a stop
side and right, I'm like, how did do the window
was open?

Speaker 2 (26:37):
And then you heard which is I mean that is
a possibility if they were stop by a stop signing something.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
But then maybe a couple days later, she was like,
those girls went missing. Okay, but let's normalize calling in
sketchy shit because right, what did the guy say, again,
don't do anything stupid? Yeah, and she looks horrified, like,
what listen, maybe it's her stepdad teaching her how to
drive a stick. Be talking that way. I agree with you.
Did you know that when my steffdad tried to teach

(27:04):
me how drive a stick? He was screaming at me,
and so I just pulled the car over and I
walked home.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
I didn't know that. No, Kenton tried to teach me
how to drive a stick. I didn't kill it. I
didn't kill it, but I can't do it. Additional witnesses
reported seeing the Dodge Fan in different areas of Springfield
after the disappearances. A man told authority that no authority,
just the one told authorities he saw a blonde female
sitting in the driver's seat of a similar vehicle in

(27:28):
the parking lot of the groceries of a grocery store.
Why am I just the one and only groceries, just.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
The one in the town. This guy said that he
wrote down the van's license plate number on a newspaper
as the vehicle seemed a little suspicious. Unfortunately, this man
threw the paper away before contacting investigators. The should be
noted Cheryl and Susanne were both blonde, and I believe
Stacy was like a brunette. Okay, I just assumed one

(27:53):
of them was.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
We were getting closer to doing the right thing as
I stand there some witnesses not quite there again.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Okay, but remember we're and then so law of law
enforcement officials agreed to hypnotize the man, but he was
only able to provide the plates first three digits, and
authorities have been unable to determine if a van was
involved in this case at all.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
But just that is a wild fucking leap. It's straight
to hypnotism. I could imagine being like, oh, yeah, you
can for sure do some hocus pocus on me.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
I think in the eighties and early nineties like that
was just a thing that happened.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
All I can think of I keep going inside tangents.
I do apologize, but is ninety day Fiance the last resort?
They hypnotized some of them in one of those episodes,
and one guy came out saying that his past life
was lived as a leprechaun.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
So that's all I can think. I've never I've never
had the pleasure of watching Actually, I don't say. I
don't want to say I've never had the pleasure because
it doesn't sound like something i'd want to watch at all.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Trash reality TV. It's anyway, and they talk about love
and things like that.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Probably was so not for me. No murder, nothing, no, no,
just me falllessly with my dogs watching Criminal Minds every night.
Maybe throw in a couple episodes. A server at George's Steakhouse,
one of Cheryl's favorite Springfield restaurants, worted seeing the women
in the restaurant between one and three am on June seventh.

(29:15):
The employee claimed that Cheryl, Suzanne, and Stacey arrived and
left together. She said that Susanne appeared to be intoxicated
as the group left the restaurant, and Cheryl was attempting
to calm her down. Investigators have never confirmed the sighting,
and it's not clear if the women actually visited the
restaurant before their disappearances. I'm wondering if it was like
a different night. Maybe, but that is so fucking late.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
But I was also thinking, like maybe Cheryl thought like
she knews Susanne was a little drunk, so like maybe like,
let's go get some food.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
I'd be like, din our food. It's fucking wam, go
to bed. Yeah, here's some toasting.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
That's all I can think is like maybe she was like, oh,
we'll get some food and I'm get them home in
bed or something.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Again, I don't know. I'm trying to make glade where
there isn't any Yeah, or the girls came home after
being at all those parties and they're like, hey, mom,
can you drive us to I don't know, we want
to keep celebrating, Like yeah, I don't know. Other witnesses
reported hearing a woman's screams and the sweale of tires
in eastern Green County, Missouri, during the early hours of
June seventh. Officials searched the area, but no evidence related

(30:19):
to the case was found, and also like, so they
searched the area but not probably not till the eighth right,
because the seventh was when twenty people were in the
house sweeping up evidence, and then they left the note
on the door, so it was like a full twenty
four hours later before it was really searched. There was
also a composite sketch of an unidentified man that was

(30:41):
released days after the disappearances. I think it was a
homeless man. This is somebody who was allegedly spotted near
Ryl and Suzanne's residence early in June. Authorities don't know
if the man was involved in the case, just a
neighbor probably was like, oh, there was this strange man
walking through the neighborhood a few days ago. There was
also so Cheryl had a son. I believe he was

(31:04):
older than Suzanne. So his name was bart And you know,
this is so weird. I talk about this later. I
must have broke that and then decided to move it
and not pretend I didn't say that. Okay, well, it's fine.
Bart was looked at and then not was whatever head
and alibi. But he was like a strange from his
mother and that's.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Why, Okay, because she named him Bart.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Maybe his full name was Bartlett. Who you know, is
that a thing. I think, So I am, hey, if
your name is Bartlett right in.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
I'm convinced that that mother did not want to stop Bartlett.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Oh my god, that's a name. Look it up. I
fully believe you.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Just I think my high school history teachers bart something Simpson.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Anyway, Sorry, the name is wild. I think the reason
that he was looked into was because he was a
strange from his mom and sister and Suzanne and Stacey
weren't supposed to be at the house. So if he
was going to like confront his mom about something, she
would be the one that the only one that would
be home. Yeah. I think that was like kind of
that theory. But he had an alibi and like he

(32:09):
just didn't want to talk to his mom, which is fine.
There was an anonymous caller that phoned America's Most wanteds
hotline after the program profiled the case in late December
of nineteen ninety two. The caller was disconnected before he
could speak to Springfield investigators. So I think that, like
I was the switchboard operator. Hi, I'm a thousand years old.

(32:29):
I mean, it would like they had like the hotlines
where you, yeah, like it would be like a switchboard
type thing, and then they're trying to connect this person
with this tip to the police department and just got disconnected.
Whatever they said. Though before they got disconnected, authorities believed
that that person held vital information connected to the disappearances.
There were many public pleas for assistance and like asking

(32:50):
the individual to come forward, but they never contacted the
authorities again. So hey, man, if you're listening to this
right now, pick up the fucking a phone. Don't call us,
call the police.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
I don't answer my phone.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Ye, Like they must have said something to the Americans
most wanted, I know tip line that really made police
believe that. I know.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
It was so like you were like you felt confident
enough in whatever information you had to call.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
I just call again. Phone calls got disconnected all of
the time. Just just boo boop, say go back, boo boop.
How do What was it? Star?

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Is the start eighty six where you just it redials?
I can't remember what was it? Six' seven was hide
your phone?

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Number And star six' NINE was i meane to hide your? Phone,
number well one of them was to be able to
get the. Phone number they just called you because you
didn't HAVE caller Id, Before, Yeah hi i'm. So old BEFORE,
caller id you could, hit sticks snope STAR when i
just say star six whatever and it costs Money nine

(33:55):
star six' nine or star six seven one hit your
phone number and one you could look up or not
look call and it would tell you the last number.
That called you.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Star six seven is to, hide Your number and star
six ninety is to call, that number back the last Number, that,
called yeah yeah?

Speaker 1 (34:12):
Old as fuck why did? Say eighty six oh? That's your,
voicemail you're like it's.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Gonna Bother me but i've never felt MORE old than. I, Just,
aged listen sarah we've had to explain what a payphone
is on. This podcast before so. Just reference one and you. Just,
REFERENCED one okay i do?

Speaker 1 (34:31):
YOU know what i. TAKE it back i don't like
doing a nineties case or hearing nineties so it makes me. Feel.
So old sorry several officials said that the former chief
of police was impeding their investigation into the case in.
The late nineties others dispute that contention and said that
there was no evidence available. TO show that i THINK
just maybe i don't know if it was someone got

(34:51):
but hurt or. Not or whatever but that was a
drama in the late nineties. Surrounding the case.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Well just think about like how like in the like back,
in my day they did like departments didn't communicate like they,
Do do now like YOU know, What i mean, like
it was if something happened in, this department's jurisdiction then they.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Are the only ones with any.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Information about it if it, happened over here if those two,
cases were linked nobody's finding out because.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Nobody fucking talked well look at even what was THE
last Case I did lynn turner within, one, Police Department
Right like mike, archer, was, like hey guys something's going,
on over here and, they, were like no please start. Talking,
about that, yeah, so. Yeah. Yeah exactly okay one of
the original investigators theorized that the women's Assailant maybe took

(35:34):
cinnamon out of the yard during, the overnight hours and
then to get access, to their residents maybe the attacker
knocked on the door pretending to have rescued the dog after.
It wandered away then you pushed, into the, door. Ball
BLAH whatever but, i don't know like if they always
left their door unlock it it sounded like when the
friend went over and the, door wasn't locked that that wasn't.

(35:56):
A BIG deal and i think if, that's the case
you would just knock on the door and then push. Your,
WAY in anyway i don't think you need to like,
steal a dog although that would be, A good ploy
like you definitely open the door if somebody had your dog, and,
was like oh your dog just ran out, into the.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Street and that's why you need a full size dog
that nobody.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Could pick up? That's MY dog did? I tell you
i'll probably cut this. Because it's irrelevant monty broke through
his Fence, like in december this is, a While ago
and russ was home and went out and tried to
get him and pick him up to get him out,
of The road and monty like hunkered down and wouldn't
move to. Pick him up russe.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
THE heaviest shit, i, was like hey it's like sixty
five or seventy pounds and not wanting, to, move right
yeah and. Like.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
Being terrified whatever cheryl's, background was investigated but it didn't.
Really lead Anywhere she and suzanne Moved to the springfield
area in Nineteen, Eighty, From seattle Washington cherald of cheryl divorced,
Her first HUSBAND BRENT B R E. N, T, t
yeah brent.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
What do?

Speaker 1 (36:54):
You, Mean, ME yeah brent i don't Know there was
brent with Two.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
TEAS like brett a couple agreed, ahead Of me so
i'm not quite sure how.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
They spilled it but like you're all fucking been out Of.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
SHAPE about, BART i MEAN i know i, dislike both
names if that makes, you FEEL better but i have
Heard of. A, brent.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
Before okay whatever So, she divorced brent which is a,
totally normal Name shortly after. Suzanne was born she Told
friends that brent believed that they should divorce and, continue
living together and this Plan would allow cheryl to.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Qualify for welfare brent sounds like. A. Solid guy sarcasm if, nobody, Picked.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Up okay cheryl decided to end, The, relationship Instead okay.
Because cheryl's smart she moved into an Apartment complex in
seattle and Stayed home With, suzanne and bart which is also,
a normal name for Six months. After SUSANE'S breath So
i think suzanne was like a. Little, tiny baby, Yeah
you know cheryl actually received free free rent while they

(37:58):
lived in this apartment complex because she did some repair work.
Around the building but, SHE was like i, don't. EVEN
know MAN I mean i i can't do anything with,
any POWER tools but i can well with, our one
life we can figure. It out perfect i'm gonna need
you TO hang my tv in. MY new house i
have a. MAN for that i think they'll. Do it

(38:18):
Though so Then cheryl and suzanne moved into Their Home On.
East DELMAR street and I feel like i missed a, part, in.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
This yeah because they Like booped from seattle apartment, to
hold on let me read.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Ahead a little, oh never mind it's literally. The Next
sentence But cheryl and suzanne moved into Their Home On
east Delmar street in april, of nineteen ninety two months.
Before THEIR disappearances, like i said they moved there, in,
the spring Yeah and in june. They went missing cheryl's
nineteen eighty nine divorce from, Her Second husband don levitt,
impacted her finances and she decided to relocate to the

(38:53):
smaller residence. With her daughter don's Creditors began asking cheryl
to pay his debts, after their divorce and she hired
a lawyer, to locate him but, was not successful, So,
he's like hi. Here's, my debt. Yeah goodbye forever, but
also like did we try to find him we as,
in the police did we find.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Don right or did he do this and now just
out there. LIVING his life i mean he would still,
have the debt but if he's like living, under, another
name yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
WORKING for her i didn't see anything at all about
THEM finding don.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
I feel like they had they found him and went and,
or questioned him it definitely would have. Been.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
In there so cheryl was Employed At the new attitudes
Hair Salon On west Sunshine street in springfield in. Nineteen
ninety two she had two hundred and fifty clients at
the time of her disappearance and was considered. A model
employee her family members described her as a private person
who had a close relationship with her. Daughter fifty. CLIENTS
she's busy i need to text. MY hair lady i

(39:52):
need to, know like it like what? THE normal is i.
HAVE no idea. I don't either i will Be Asking
that man industries received tip that the women's bodies were
buried in the Foundation Of the south Parking Garage at
cox hospital in two. Thousand and Seven I'm reporter Kathy Baird,
invited rick, norland mechanical engineer to scan a corner of

(40:13):
the parking garage with the. Ground Penetrating radar rick norland
found three anomalies roughly, the same size that he said
were consistent with a. Quote gravesite location two of the
anomalies were parallel and the other. One was perpendicular did
we dig? Up the? ANOMENA the lilies i can't say
the word. Of parrothe nope why is this? Like, FINDING
nemo well i, Say it. AGAIN i'm Not, i damn god. Damn,

(40:36):
Fuck anomalies Nope I'm Quite The springfield police Department Spokespersut,
in lisa cox which is weird because that's. The hospital Name,
lots Of.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Cox unintentional cox it's a moment of.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
Silence for the end. Of this podcast so she said
that the person who reported the tip provided no evidence
or logical reasoning behind this theory at the time. Or
since then she also said the parking garage Construction began
in september of, nineteen eighty three over a year. After
the disappearances she said digging up the area and subsequently
reconstructing the structure would be extremely costly and without any

(41:10):
reasonable belief that the bodies would, Be located there it's illogical,
to do so and, for THOSE reasons the spd does
Not intend to investors have determined this lead to. Not
be credible.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
But like the, newsperson did it could they not just
hand over whatever they? RECORDED that day, i don't know, Maybe, They,
DIDN'T okay well i wonder why the news person would
have the authority to invite somebody to somebody ELSE'S property to.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
I don't know i think maybe it's just the parking lodge,
of parking lodge parking garage. Of a hospital it's not
like going. Into someone's house But. The form nope the
former Assistant At The green county prosecutor's office said that
they said, That, this tape yeah said that this tip

(41:54):
came from somebody who either quote claimed to be a
psychic or claimed to have had a dream or vision.
About THE case so i don't know if the news
person had a. Dreamer of vision if somebody called the
news station with, their dreamer vision but the news station
went and did the ground penetrating radar and still, Found
the anomalies, I'm gonna right so like something like was clearly,

(42:17):
Recorded there right but like, the police said it would
be super costly to. Tear, down this okay it's been
standing for maybe it's time for it to. Come down
anyway so here, as some suspects because there's not really
much more known. About The case dustin recla was a
Former Boyfriend. Of susie streeter he Broke into a springfield
mausoleum a few months before the women vanished and stole

(42:40):
thirty dollars worth of gold fillings. From a skull Police
looked At dustin because susie had given investigator's a statement
about them, masleum break in and it was rumored that
she could be a witness against. Him in court dustin
and two of his friends that helped in the mausoleum
robbery were known to be together and in the area

(43:00):
that the. Woman went, MESSING but, like i think doing
really stupid teenage stuff is completely different than, kidnapping, three,
women murdering, murdering because yeah that's.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
What.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
We're assuming yeah so Then There's The robert craig cox
Guy so many Well. That's another, cox last name must
be just a big last name. In, the area yeah
but that's THE one that i said Present. He's, from
springfield left, was very, shitty came back, was still, shitty
left again. And left again and in, Nineteen Ninety seven

(43:32):
craig cox was In prison in texas as a Convicted
kidnapper and robert and the Suspect of. A florida murder
this is when he told the journalists that he knew
the three women had been murdered and that they would.
Not be found in, nineteen eighty two he Was living
in springfield and when interviewed then he told investigators that
he was with his girlfriend at church the morning after,

(43:53):
the women disappeared and she. Corroborated, that story.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
Okay, the morning after it is a the night of
like it was in my. Bed last night that doesn't
mean A minute to maybe they went to church at.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Two o'clock, in. The, morning okay however the girlfriend later
recanted her statement and said that he had asked her, to,
say that okay and even actually. Go, to, church jason
listen some people aren't cut out. For non school robert
also said that he was at the home of his
parents the night of the disappearance and they. CONFIRMED his
alibi i think having your only alibi be your mom
and your, girlfriend or right. IT'S not great i don't

(44:28):
think that counts, as an. Alibi but whatever and then
with him saying they were all murdered and their bodies
on reef whatever like that also COULD just be i,
WANT some attention i. Look. At me yeah he also
told authorities and journalists that he would disclose what happened
to the three women after his, mother had died, And
he obviously robert's not gonna. Say what happened he's about
to go, out, For parole right so that's an that was.

(44:51):
A gross sound i'm just. Trying to think as soon,
AS it started, i was like but he's not gonna say,
it after either because. That's. Possibly INCRIMINATING right but i
wonder If he said. I'LL tell you i don't know
if he said that and then he thought he was
just going to spend the rest of his. Life in,
jail oh well he. Still Might happen stephen garrison. Is
another suspect he was a member of a motorcycle gang
at the time, of the disappearances and he told police

(45:13):
in nineteen eighty three that he knew what happened. To
the women he offered more information if investigators would help
him get, out of jail where he was being held on.
Unrelated weapons charges he claimed that he overheard somebody confess. To,
the killing nope confess to killing the three women at.
A drug party he said their bodies were taken to
a Hog Farm In. West webster county police said that

(45:36):
Police said that garrison had information that. WASN'T public, knowledge
i mean.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
We let people walk through the crime scene for a
whole day before. Closing that up.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
So what do we know? Is public?

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Knowledge exactly right somebody came home told her wife some shit.
About the case wife spilled the. Tea, to somebody also
what is.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
Ryl in those? Two, girls doing like What.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Would they they're not at? A, Drug party no like
they probably Weren't Even at georgia's steakhouse or whatever the fuck.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
It, was called.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Yeah that's a guarantee that they were not at a
friggin drug party unless they were forced.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
TO be, there, I guess, RIGHT oh well, i mean.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
Yeah that's yeah that's another way to, look at it
is if they were kidnapped and forced. To go, THERE
but like, i don't know it seems, the two men and.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
We've tracked down some of the other people there were.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
At this party like it seems too messy of a
possibility because there's, no. OTHER information right A judge, lowered
garrison's bail and police actually put him up, in a
hotel where he promptly. FLED in surprise a, few days
later he broke into a Woman's apartment in springfield. And
attacked her she survived and. Testified against.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Him Good for in september of, Nineteen eighty five Garrison
Told the springfield newsleader that police had questioned him as
a suspect in the. Missing, women's, Case, like obviously hi
you put yourself, in, That, Situation right currently garrison is
serving forty years in, prison, for, rape sodomy.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
Burglary And, robbery jesus christ there are some real winners.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
On the suspects look. What is, HAPPENING that's, redless i
mean and that's REALLY all. THAT i, could i mean
there were some like random blogs and stuff that had
other suspects just like this was a shitty person that lived,
ten minutes away that. Type of thing and then we
Already Talked about bart's we Did. Talk, ABOUT bart thanks. I.
Hate it Sorry cheryl and suzanne's relatives had them both.

(47:22):
Declared legally dead in, nineteen ninety seven five years, after
their disappearances a bench was dedicated To Them In victim's
Memorial garden In Springfield's. Phelps grove park, that Same Year stacy, is,
mom SAID quote until i know one Hundred percent that,
STACY is deceased i will never. Declare her dead they're
going to have to find some REMAINS somewhere before i call.

(47:44):
Her legally dead it's not for any reason OTHER than
if i do and, she's not dead think of how
mad she'd be when. She gets back she said that
she still talks about her daughter publicly because she hopes
that what she says will one day prompt someone who
knows something. To, step forward yeah there is a reward
fund of forty three thousand dollars established for the location
and prosecution of the person or people responsible for the

(48:08):
abduction of. The three women anyone with information into the
disappearances is requested To Contact The springfield police department, or
crime stoppers and the number for crime stoppers in that
area is four one seven eight. Six' nine, TIPS you,
can also I guess because the fbi, was involved in
THIS contact, your local fbi office which where do we

(48:30):
have that that would have To be. A quick google
Search they know where i'm. At all the time. I'll
just let, them you can also like if You look UP,
the springfield three fbi like they have a page for,
that with a link and you can anonymously leave. Any,
tips or, anything yeah but Yeah. My Sources were wikipedia
the charlie project had like a ton, of reformation on

(48:52):
it which usually only has like a. Little Bit Four
Sentences the springfield daily citizen Had An article BY ron,
davis and ky three, a local news station followed the
story and. Had one.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
Billion articles clearly somebody it's hard because it wasn't, somebody
that they knew because they were able to get all
three women without much of a, fight inside the HOUSE you?

Speaker 1 (49:12):
Know what i mean like there was like? Who was
The target like? Was cheryl the target and the girls weren't?
Supposed to be home and then it would have to
be somebody who knew the girls weren't, Supposed to be
Home like who did cheryl call at Eleven thirty to
say i'm home all alone painting my chest of drawers
or whatever. The fuck it's called or if it was
somebody who followed the girls home from, one of the

(49:34):
parties because think about they've been party hopping and could
have pretty, easily been followed home and then it doesn't
take a, lot to overpower through like you just, have
to scare them not to sound. Like a humongous creep
that sence coming into my mouth is like you're.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
But you're, not wrong you know like you think, of
fight or flight, but THERE'S also freeze and i think
that's a very very common response.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
To something, like, that.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
So yeah well and THEN you think that i want
to do whatever this person is TELLING me so, that i,
can extend you know.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
My chance to right my thing is like the money
in the. Purses not BEING taken, THAT'S what i. Like
i said earlier i'm hung. Up on the bike it.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
Wasn't a, home, like a robbery no but they did
collect the purses to, put, them all together right but.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
They didn't.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
Take anything that's, right i'm hung up like there's something
weird about like.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
That ASPECT of it and i want to know when
the parking structure or whatever was actually built with it
not till nineteenny, three or you know.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Was it doving the, groundwork, the year prior right which. Is,
in most cases yeah they've already started.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
And then it so then let's look at what company
was contracted, to do that groundwork and then can we
track down who was working on on. The cruise or
whatever because even if that parking garage wasn't completed until sometime,
in nineteen eighty three that absolutely does not mean that
they weren't pouring the footers or right exactly. Or, ANYTHING
like that yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
I don't like it it is while the lack of,
really information for it like and that they just weren't,
Able to find anything and, it makes me wonder is
it because It's like smaller town. MIDWEST police might not
i WAS gonna say then i want to jibble in
those Situations on what to but then you also have
the alleged police chief or the police chief allegedly impeding an,

(51:24):
Investigation even years later?

Speaker 1 (51:25):
Like for? What reason why not why can't we look
into this and follow? Up, on this lead yeah that's
honestly a good like did he have a son police
being put a police officer? Have? Been involved in right
because there was. ONE of the parties i think the
last of the graduation parties was. Broken, UP by police
okay i mean. Thinks, THEY hate it, sorry, i Just

(51:47):
think like, LIKE cecy's mom said i like sharing THE
unsolved ones because i just think the more, people talk
about it the more likely maybe somebody listens to, this
and they're, like you know what remember this had my
ex boyfriend. And or said this you know my, uncle
said something, weird you know whatever and then.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
Just any information anywhere your weird uncle told, you a
weird story and you, think it sounds familiar. And send that,
in send it, in because guess what it doesn't hurt anything, to.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
Send.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
IT in right yeah i hate on SOLVED cases because
it's i always feel, Frustrated for THEIR families but obviously
i do think it's a very important thing to continue
covering those types of cases so that more eyeballs can
be on it and maybe we can talk the hospital into.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
Leveling, THEIR parking.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Grud Hey i think you hay did. A new perking grad,
i THINK it's time but i. Don't know how long
the last doesn't sound like they. SHOULD last that, long i, don't, Know, but.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
YEAH yeah so as i, WAS typing this, UP i
Was like i know sarah's, going to hate it but
the only way our podcast is going to have any
unsolved cases ON it is, If i cover.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Them, i've covered a Few, they're, definitely my again.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
Like it's just because it's so frustrating and you on
IT to be like i want. IT to be solved
i want the families to know, where THEIR daughters are
and i want whoever did it, to have to pay
they have to answer.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
FOR what they did i think THAT'S more LIKE when i,
say i hate them it's because it kills me that
the families are still left wondering and, may never have
answers and that the person who did commit whatever crime
is just walking around most likely not they're most likely
probably went on, to commit different crimes but like they
could possibly still be free, Out there, and right IT'S

(53:29):
yeah THAT'S why i, say i hate THEM because.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
It Also i really appreciate stacy's mom saying imagine, if
like she's like imagine how mad she would be that
it's such a like mom of a teenage daughter thing to.
Think ABOUT and say, WHEN i read, that, i was
like yeah? That's?

Speaker 2 (53:43):
Is, it true yeah. YEAH yeah, that sucks i say
teared on the fucking parking garage so we could maybe.
HAVE some, more answer i say what if we.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
Do the ground. Penetrating, radar thing again, yeah with better.
Tech with, better technology now yeah like what's. THAT or
it doesn't i mean. It probably costs money somebody with
that technology. Can donate their time so.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
There are there are programs that go across the country, who,
will be like oh we can come do that for.
You and, for, free, yeah okay thanks sorry we.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
Did, A good job thanks we already did all of.
That stuff we did what do we do? To say,
the end, Yeah right all right well that's my unsolved.
Case for this week but that's all we. Have for this,
week thanks. For listening kay bye