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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I apologize for the lighting. It's just I'm having the
worst lighting issues right now. I don't know this is
the best. The best is going to be For those
of you guys who are watching me Hi's the SS
Show with Jameson Junior, I'm the super organizer. It is Tuesday,
January twenty eight, twenty twenty five. It's my grandmother, Vincy's birthday,
and I want to start with thanks and gratitude to her.
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She eschewed roles which were going about today and was
a working woman who took care of herself, took care
of her own left to America, wasn't the greatest and
worked it out herself, went across country and did it.
He did it her way. You go on, miss Vincy
in heaven. I remember you. I see you. I had
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strong grandmothers. She was one of them. So I have
your birthday to her. That's my thanks and gratitude for
her today as I talk to you all, and all
thanks of gratitude to the rain that just happened. We
had rain in La I'm so happy. Thank you Mother,
Thank you Mother nature. Something in my face other nature
this episode. I just want to talk about the changing
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of roles in the home, the changing of the home,
the changing of language in our society and how that
affects the basics of sometimes of our organizing stuff. My friend, colleague, talented, smart, beautiful,
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fellow organizer, doctor Regina Lark, and I met up which
we like to do and have breakfast and we always talk.
She is really big in the emotional labor space. And
you think, what's emotional labor? What does that mean? Go
to her? Would you know lark dot com. I think
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it's it's coming out shortly or she hasn't a clear
path that's her business. She's on LinkedIn, or just look
her up, doctor Regina Lark l A r K. I
put it in the description too. She has books, she
has ten talks and everything you can show will you
will find out what emotional labor is. But the basics
of it are involve gender roles in the home when
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you take care of everything, and she is kind of
the place where it's mostly women. It's almost always been women.
It's mostly women who run the homes, who run households,
and the emotional labor and emotions behind that. How don't
you remember everything and organize everything and multitasking? I always
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say women are the stronger sex anyway, So I'm allgured
to all them, but our mothers and aunties and grannies
and you know, everybody who's godmother's who is running the households,
and so much of her work has been about that,
addressing that, the history, and she's also a history person,
the history and just all that, all that stuff, and
how the professional organizing business, the professional organizing business was
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started by women for women, started for women. I started
for men by women either way, women not even when
you say that word, it becomes controversial in some circles.
Was about that in a second. But this is what
back in the eighties were when it started. That's how
it started. Even I acknowledged that. I remember that, and
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I remember during the pandemic and still here. I have
a playlist on this channel, JAILJ Media. It's only video.
There's no if you're listen. If you're listening to this,
Hi listeners, you guys are great. Guess listen to me
as a podcast. This was only This is a video
only series I did during the pandemic in twenty twenty.
It was called you Know, My Life as a professional
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organizer as a male in pressure organizing business, and I
have a bunch of episodes and they were very popular.
I had a good time because I had people ask
me questions while being a man in the business. We're like,
what five percent, maybe ten I don't even know what
ten percent? I think like five percent of the business.
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It's still out of statistics for sure. And also some
women in my business gave me attitude for being an organizer,
so it was my way of talking to people. I
always take criticism or transuy. I try to turn around
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as something teachable. That's just how I am and shareable.
So that's kind of what it grew and it became
a popular series. We loved it, and I'm glad you
could check those out and when I did them, but
it was just then five years later, there's different language
for stuff and different things going on and regime, and
I took her a little bit, but I'm still I
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still back her for what she's saying and what she's
and what and what her research and stuff is for.
It is mostly for women. We all, I mean, it's
just a facts. All the world is mostly women who
run the households. Should not say they all do because
they because they don't. They don't. There are exceptions, So
let's talk about that a little bit. My stepdad ran
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the house. He cooked and cleaned, to carry the bills
or he ran the house, not my mother. And I know,
I know men like him and you know, and they
take care of the manuchia. She she went out and worked.
He worked, but he took care of all that stuff.
He knew where everything was. We needed something to ask him,
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you know, he needs some more ketch up. He knew,
like that's all that stuff that was him. Myself, I lived,
my brother, I held everything in the house. I have
to remember to clean the floors, everything to be cleaned,
you know, wash out the washing she once a month.
He would never think to do that. Cle outer the microwave.
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He would never do that or think or think of
doing that. And you know, there's all things in the
house that I have to Eammbrige. You now, you both
kind of do the bills. He does something, Idy do some,
but I oversee kind of everything. So there are there
are men out there who are in charge. There are
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house husbands that stay home and the wives go to work,
and they have everything at home too. You know. Back
in the day is portrayed as the mister Moms and
the three men in the Babies, itsys, it's all for
comedy and oh my god, manager so helpless and worthless
at home, and that those things were fun and funny.
But I'm glad that those tropes are going away. But
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sometimes people still think what I either do a wall
isn't organizing women's work. And I'm just like, no, it
isn't organization. Used to be cleaning, used to be that.
But no, anybody can do it. It's not gender specific, Like
I don't think I need to learn how I mean,
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it's just it is what it is, right, So that's
and so I you know, we talked about that. So
emotional labor is kind of squeezing over to some men.
Now people ask, well, what about same sex relationships when
it's two women or two men. I always say that
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it leans into one person house the emotional labor or
the other. Doesn't. I feel like it just kind of
transfers into it's you know, one person heavily does this,
maybe some of the other person does all the outside chores,
Like there's always a distribution of roles and chores and
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and but it goes on in the house. Does shift
and like I said, straight but also in those same
sex then yat language that may be controversial to some.
But there are some folks who identify as non binary.
They're fluid, so they're not using the male female roles
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or they feel both. They accept the masculine and feminine
in them, and so they don't but they don't go specimically.
And this is women's works, is men's work. It's just
like it's work. And so there's like so it's a
question for those of us who are teaching, those of
us who have subjects who want to teach to you
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out there, and that's that's that's also for coaches, organizers
and stuff. You know, you guys to make a choice.
Do you accept new language? Maybe you don't, maybe maybe
your area And there's no reasons except that there's nothing.
It's it's homogenized. You don't really have that. There's trends
of course, other thing too, like how does that you know,
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how does that work? Or does it change anything? You
know or it's not you know, don't know. But I
noticed that there's links I know in our I know
in our business even in the last five years, you know,
even maple change, there change part of their name, you know,
and now being you know, Nation Socially Depression Organizers, n
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Association of Productivity and organizing. We should say time management.
We don't really say that anymore. It's now productivity. You
know this productivity management, organizational management, like they don't. We
don't say time because in essence, you can't release or
you can't manage time, candy or organize time. I don't know,
but but there's words that have changed. But in every field,
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language is changing and evolving, and that goes for slang,
casual terms to professional. I like the word management. I
like the word productivity. It does kind of it makes
it elevates things a bit, a little bit in the
in the just the wording. Uh, I mean that's important.
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But people you know here organizing, I think we're just
doing closets and garages, which so fars aren't. But there's
so much more to this organizational world. And I love
when people learn this. They get excited and go what
you can do? They can do? They are dancing about
virtual organizing with a client. So I can offer that to you.
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What if you Oh my god, Like I've tended some
things virtual, I've done some organizing virtual you can, you
can nowadays we have newer things that we can do now,
newer words. So it's just it's so go back to
that it's emotional labor, or to just gender roles. Are
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they still important? You still have them when it comes
to your kids, what are you teaching them? And how
are you teaching them? Are there ways to teach them
all of this actually without using using gender? You know,
and I know some folks are like, you know, I
want I want my boys to cook too. I want
to know how to clean their room. Also it's I'm like,
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so I'm not gonna specifically go okay, well now you
girls know how to cook and crochet, and you were.
I wish someone had taught me how to sew he
saw a button. I can't do it in my life.
And my grandfather was a tailor at one point. So
there are men who did do some of these states
and did so and crochet and then also back in
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the past, you know, it's like, you know, make shoes,
all the kinds of stuf cobbostoners. So like there's things
that you know, we look at women doing kind of
like no men do it. You know, men does not
male designers there's a show called The Bold and the
Beautiform where it's male designers mostly. I mean like it's
a lot of or straight. So there's all these stereotypes
of things. I mean, we have to break those down too.
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But is there some kind of truth in the stereotypes?
Is there some kind of truth in the new language?
What does it mean? And I know it depends. I
don't know the statistics of our I wanst say constituency,
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our colleagues ship. I don't know how many folks in
the industry are gay or lesbian, or trans, or buy
or tribe. I have no idea. I don't know how
many percentage are black or white, or Muslim or Catholic.
I don't I mean, I just know that we have
a we have a bunch of I'm seeing more diversity
now because they're organizing, and I know what's I know
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what's faithful organizers. They have a language too, because they're
including sometimes scripture, they're including their faith in sometimes in
their business, in their business plan, model, mission, and sometimes
on site. So the really depends. So things are changing
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a bit. I am starting to get less of Oh,
I thought just women organize. I'm getting that in the
five years. It's actually has changed a bit. Maybe it's
also because I'm very visible. I recognize as I celebrate
ten years doing this show this year, but sixteen years
in the business, I'm an old timer now. So I've
been around for a while. I will admit that. So
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I've been and I'm in the media, so I've been
out there pushing this the narrative that organizing is great.
I've been kind of a face for some people, and
there's a there's a bunch of us out there men Edward,
you know, Matt Patton doing it for years, Matt Paxton,
you know, my girl, Jarlen Thomas. And I'm seeing other
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folks actually start to get you know, on TV shows,
getting segments because there's somebody like picture organizing and this
or I love. I love seeing more people. Please get
on these show, bring them on from hot topics. I
love this stuff. We have knowledge, we have such knowledge
that's a whole other you know, I get about that today.
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Love our industries. It's like what different days. But I
think when it comes you have changing language. I know,
like in a medical field we would get changing language
there too, which is very important when you're working on
somebody in the insurance where we are changing language. I mean,
just every industry can think it's things start changing, and
I guess maybe it depends on where you are how
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much change really does happen. But I personally am not
saying this. There are some things that I know are
traditionally men women, I'd like to see just broken down
just human. These are these are things that humans do
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in their homes. This person just leans heavily into doing
most of the work. This one leans heavily into taking
care of the bills, or this person cooks all the time,
but this person always just laundry. I think it's and
I encourage every household to set up the way things
they want to set them up. Ass where everybody is,
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you know, pulling their weight, so to speak, whatever you
call yourself. Whatever the situation could be a big family,
it could be a marriage. It could be simplying that
my brother, could be you know, mother daughter, I mean, whatever,
what does matter what it is, Hopefully you have something
where you each are kind of putting in the time.
But we're going to continue. This is one of those
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continuing subjects we're going to continue to talking about, which
has been said it's changing the role changing language. When
I hear new stuff, I'll share with you, Guys, I
always do fascin me. I love words. I'm a wordsmith.
I'm a two time spelling be champion. So I love,
I love, I like where I like. I like hearing
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things evolved. Sometimes there's some words I'm like, I don't
care about that. But in some words I don't understand,
like what does that mean? He why the ending and
stuff in there? But I understand evolution. I understand each
generation different. The gen zers are not mean Gen X
or the millennials that you got Gen Alpha coming up
there and Gen Beta who knows degue thinking, So I
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know for them, they're viewing the world differently than we
are too. We're all walking the world differently. Of course,
it's mind you as you as I as I clear out.
Some things are cultural to you, so we have cultural
thing that happened also where certain roles are just desired
tall you know, it happens and accepted. So now that's
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changing to you. As certain generations are are coming away
from the mother in hand or the fatherland, they don't
have the connections as you know. Maybe my generation was
the last generation and maybe felt we had our grandparents gres,
we were, we were, we felt wherever they came from. Well,
now my grandkids have no idea what my grandmother and
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the did they have. They have their fourgerations later, they
have no connections. So it's so it's very interesting. I'm
doing a show, a podcast called Really have a Great
I'm really really I'm a Caribbean great grandparent, where I'm
doing every week I talk about my family. I'm learning
about my past. So my family these past, so I'm
digging back and I'm like, I'm learned about my grand
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great great great grandparents and great great grandparents and I
didn't I didn't even know them. So we are. We are.
Subduations are getting farther and further and moved, and each
generation is viewing commerce and you know, buying and selling
very differently. Sentimentality is changing each h each generation is
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like getting less sentimental. People are collectors, are some collect
certain things, some don't anymore? As technology changes, and for me,
you know, I know it's for a while. If I
was going you know, Spotify, Apple, you know their music. Well,
now I go, I go record shopping every couple of
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weeks and there's the record stores are at people are
buying physical media again, so there's that. So as just
every everything is ever involving, it's not evergreen. I'm James
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you started. Everyone have a great week. For those of
you are across the country, please be careful with all
the the snow and the ice in the rain. Here
in l A. All my friends in the family and
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fellow colleagues, I'm with you when it comes to all
the fire recovery and damage. If people are getting to
go back home now. I am here if you need anything,
and everyone take care of the Touch next