A Chat with Jason INBERG ~ When life hands you lemons

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Hey, hey, hey, it's your boy, Ken White, host of
the South Side Unicorn Show, and we have another interesting
guest with us today. You know, that seems to be
the theme of the show lately. We might have to
reconsider how we do things. Normally, it's just me and
some ad hominem and a couple things here and there,
But lately we've had the honor of some really interesting guests.

(00:35):
So today we have Jason Ingberg with us. Jason Ingber
is an esquire. Jason Ingberg is an I you know
how you do your show prep. I'm sitting here and
I'm thinking to myself. The gentleman we have on the
show today is the white Johnny Cockle. That's right, I
said it. He's got this incredulous look on his face.

(00:55):
Ladies and gentlemen, but do your homework on him. He
is the type of attornity that likes take on challenges.
He likes to take on the big cases, not the
little stuff, the big cases. And as you know, as
with the water issue in Michigan and things like that,
those lawyers who have the grit to take on the
big cases also taking on big corporate They're taking on

(01:18):
powerful forces and so they're taking a great risk. Jason
Ingber is one of those people that doesn't have a
problem taking a great risk for the people. In fact,
I think one of his models of his business is
we don't deal in cases, we deal in people. That
should give you the idea of what type of attorney

(01:39):
Jason Ingbar is. So without any further ado, we're gonna
just dive right into it. As you know that the
topic of today's show is We're lifehand you Limits, So
you know we're gonna be talking about something dealing with limits,
perhaps the limit laws, things like that, cars that don't
exactly do what they say they're going to do, snake
oil salesman, things like that. But did you know that

(02:02):
he's also a podcaster like yours? Truly, he has a
podcast so too. Now, some people have egos, you know,
egos get in a way because I'm in the game
and I'm better than you. Anything you can do, I
can do better. You know that routine. Well, Jason isn't
that type of person, and neither is yours, truly, So

(02:22):
one fellow podcaster to another, Jason, welcome to the show.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Wow, thank you so much for illustrious introduction. You ought
to come with me to court and just be my
hype person as I take the podium every time. I
think the jurys would love that. I really appreciate the
work that you've done. Also, like you said, you are
a podcaster, and I know that you want me to
sort of take the reins and carry this episode for you,

(02:48):
and I will. I have no doubt that I have
enough fodder. We can do a ten hour episode. But
don't worry, We're going to keep it concise.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Everybody the run, Joe will get out of business right.
The thing that.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
I ought to have done research and I'm sure it's
somewhere out there, but I have to ask, where did
the term unicorn? I know you grew up on the
South side of Chicago, but is unicorn just a fanciful
item in the show name? So this way you flag
to people that you are indeed very unique or is
there some deeper meaning behind it.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Well, imagine being a young man on the South side
of Chicago, and you may or may not know this,
but I kind of lean right. I've always leaned right.
And when you lean right on the South side of Chicago,
that would make you about as rare as a unicorn.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
It's very very cool and hopefully you'll indulge me and
we can get a little bit into your trajectory. I
do podcast myself and may as well plug it since
you brought that up as part of my introduction. I've
had very notable attorneys on the podcast. OJ Simpson's lawyer
comes to mind, Carl Douglass. He was the youngest member
of the Dream Team. Alan Dershowitz, who was part of

(03:56):
OJ's appeal team. I've had some folks that aren't legal
eagles themselves, but they have legal issues or some kind
of legal adjacent things. For example, I had a guy
named Ari Nagel on the show. He's a professor out
in CuNi in the East Coast, and he has fathered
two hundred children, typically by bringing the sperm samples to

(04:21):
people that want to use them. And he was banned
from certain countries from fathering more kids. And he's had
some interesting paternity suits as well, mostly.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Trying to take Abraham on a task, like, you know,
Abraham was supposed to be the father of many nations.
What's up with this guy?

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah, yeah, he's He's had quite a fascinating run as
a father. I've had some folks that recently a woman
that's a PI attorney and the different cases that she's
had to deal with, and podcasting has been an interesting
way to build my own name, gain credibility, learn from people,

(05:02):
have in depth conversations. I know that you have some
interesting stuff that I maybe we ought to do either
across over episode. But I'm going to ask you this
right now, like, what was it like you were a
police officer? Is that where you developed some of your
right leaning esthetic in your profile?

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Oh? When it comes to that part of me, because
you know, we can be political beast if we choose,
and we can be into politics if we like. But
I would like to believe that none of us are
all about our politics. We're more multi phasic than that.
But to answer that question, no, law enforcement was a

(05:44):
result of my right leaning mindset which I picked up
as a ten year old on the South side of Chicago.
Do I would yael you with the story or is
that enough of an ass.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
If you have a story from your form from your
formative years, I would love to hear it. If you
can articulate that your political leaning started from being a
ten year old, it sounds like you're running for public office.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Almost no, No, okay, have you ever seen the cartoon Boondocks? Yes, okay,
you've seen Riley, right, sure, I was Riley before Riley
was Riley. Okay, And this is back in the nineteen
seventies on the South side of Chicago. So real quick,
because again this is about you and some of the
things that you're doing. So I'll indulge here we go.

(06:33):
Imagine a certain night on the South side of Chicago.
My mom had left the home to hang out with
her friends. I was what you would call a latchkey kid.
It was a term from the nineteen seventies where you
were I'm a latchkey kid. There must have been twelve
locks on my door, you know, the latch here, twist here,
slide there, as if it was a scene from Get Smart.

(06:54):
You know. That was the door to my little apartment
that I lived in with my mom. Now, this particular night,
it was extremely violent, and I googled it now as
an adult. The month and year that I'm talking about
was listed as one of the most violent summers or
seasons of Chicago in nineteen seventy four. So there I

(07:16):
am a young man at home alone and the repeats
of the gunfire, pa pa pa, pa, pa pa pa pa,
the screams of the women, the sounds of the sirens. Woo.
You know, this is what's in my ten year old brain,
and it's just it's smothering me. So I slammed down
the window because I couldn't take it no more. I
felt like I was in Afghanistan before I even knew

(07:38):
what Afghanistan was, and so I turned on it. A
chanced to turn on the TV and there was this
guy named Johnny Carson. Johnny Carson said, ladies and gentlemen,
I'd like to introduce you to the governor of the
state of California. It was a gentleman named Ronald Reggae. Well,

(07:58):
I had to focus my attention on something. I had
to drown out my community. I myopic. I just focused
on Ronald Reagan in that tan suit and the brown
and dark brown striped tie, and this man everything that
came out of his mouth resonated to me. He wasn't

(08:20):
talking about death, dystopia, the world's coming to an end,
the sky is falling, you're black and they don't like you.
He wasn't talking any of that. He was talking about life,
the future and a shining city on the hill. And
my imagination back in those days was hyper so I
could actually see the shining city on the hill, and

(08:41):
I was like, I'd rather live in a shining city
on the hill than this damn crappy ghetto that I'm
in right now. And so my mind told me, whatever
this man is, I want some of that. I want
to be some of that. And it. You know, there
are times in our lives where something can be absolutely transformative,

(09:04):
and it can happen just like that, that show, that
Johnny Carson show. The there that night while I was
watching the show changed my life. I've been a Republican
ever since I was ten years old. There was no
way I could abscribe to the Democrat Party because I
lived it firsthand every day what was happening to me
in my neighborhood. And I was like, cause, and then
I'm gonna have to stop and make the show about

(09:26):
you again. I had the wonderlust when I was a kid.
There were two times that the police actually brought me
back home because I got lost. Even as a child,
I would because in Chicago you got long blocks that
just go on forever, and so I would just walk,
and I would walk so far as to walk into
other communities that didn't have broken windows, that didn't have

(09:48):
brown grass or whiskey bottles on the ground, and the
people were nice. They talked to me, hello, young man,
what are you doing? Basically, young black boy, what are
you doing here? You know? And I was like, I'm
just looking around, you know. So I had the ability
to see the differences, and I'm like, something is wrong

(10:09):
over here. Everything's right over here, No pun intended when
I say right, but and so that's that's pretty much
the genesis story of the South Side Unicorn.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
I love that, and I promise I will take the reins.
I will tell you some interesting court stories. And the
most interesting case that got me on this show the
hydrogen car situation where Toyota, the most reputable brand, is
just absolutely screwing customers over left right in the center
in California. Something though.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
That's striking stories. But that'll hopefully we'll get into it
in the next segment.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Right, yes, yes, yes, that to my podcasting era and
that I'm still on. It's a journey. I've been podcasting
for over five years now. One of the people that
edited my podcast he edited about twenty podcasts. His name
is Bumdogoris Bumdog is a homeless man, career homeless man.
He just recently got housed during COVID. It was a

(11:04):
little too difficult for him to stay on house. But
Bumdog was an unhoused person for decades in the community
where I grew up.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
How he challenged.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
He's a fascinating individual and I became very good friends
with him. And he's a photographer street photographer. On top
of having an interesting story himself and something that he
mentioned to me, so he edited my podcast. Again, I
got a homeless guy to be editing my podcast, which
I think is pretty novel, and he did a beautiful job.
His particular episode on YouTube didn't do so well, but

(11:37):
the shorts that I cut up on Instagram just absolutely
popped off. I'm talking about like, you know, thirty forty
thousand views and thousands of likes. People you know, really
ate him up on Instagram. Fascinating individual. Something that he
taught me, which was that, you know, I went to
UCLA Law School. It's probably one of the most liberal
schools in the in the country, you know, top ten

(11:58):
liberal school in the country for sure, or uh and
then when I left UCLA, I kind of formulated my
own thoughts, and the pendulum for me swung back to
the middle, where I think everyone should be. But something
that I had thought when I was developing my own
line of thought was that racism isn't real.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
It's dead.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
It's not really a thing anymore in the United States
of America. It's more of a classism thing. It's more
it's just it's not race anymore, it's class. And he
really articulated to me that I was just wrong. I
was just wrong about that. That in principle, maybe think yeah, yeah,
I can see you, I can see you reacting to it,

(12:39):
which is where I'm getting at. Like, the the reality
is that maybe there is no fundamental difference between races,
and that is a good point of debate. But to
say racism is dead and it's only about class.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Is just wrong.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
And I'm curious your perspective, Like, did you ever experience
racism as a black man? What are the unique challenges
to black America that you could educate myself and explain
to me, to articulate this exact, this point of contention
that I think a lot of people deep down think

(13:16):
they think Oh, racism is dead. Nothing in this country's
holding black people back. What would you say to counter
that that note.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
It's it's it'. That's a wow. That almost will consume
the entire show. Brother, You know, that's pretty slick what
we're gonna have to do. It looks like we're gonna
end up cutting up the next segments to get into
a lot of stuff. You know the routine. Jason. It's
time to get some chips up in the house. So
we got to take a station break. But I'll be
happy to answer you a question when we come back.

(13:45):
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Speaker 1 (16:01):
Hey, hey boy, knt white Horse at the south Side
Unicorn Show and I'm here with an attorney named Jason Ingbar.
Now I feel like I'm about to get you know me,
ladies and gentlemen. I love using the word vor dye,
but now I feel like I'm the one that's under
a voor dye right now because my man, Jason, he's
just taking me through it. He's asking me these questions.
And when we left off in the last segment, we

(16:23):
were just about to talk about the notion and the
idea of racism. You could consume. Joe Rogan could fill
up a whole show on that subject because everybody is
going to see it from a different perspective. There's a
song called That's just the way it is. Some things
will never change, and the guy in the song said,

(16:46):
get a job, but he didn't understand all the things
that this young man was going through the irony of life.
So Jason, I'm gonna try to tackle your questions, you know,
as quick as I can, and let us segue into
some other stuff. Yes, I have been the recipient of racism,
point blank in my face, the one that will never

(17:07):
leave me. And this is again when I told you
about my sojourn at ten years of age. Let's go
back to nine years of age, when woolworks still existed
on the south side of Chicago. Woolworks would be equivalent
to Target or There or anything like that. It's your
local department store. But Woolwork was world famous for their bright,

(17:31):
shining chron seats with the red leather topping on them,
and the deli, the diner, and that dinero. They could
cook up some food up in there, and so while
you're shopping, you smell those grilled onions, you hear the
sizzling of the burgers, and I'm a kid. Kids love cheeseburgers. Right. Well,

(17:52):
for whatever reason, my mom's life was doing pretty good
that season. You know, some months were great, some months
were not so great. But this was a good month.
My mom had some extra coins in that purse. You
could hear him rattling, you know, And so I'm like,
oh wait, I'm gonna get me a cheeseburger today, and
my mom obliged. She got me a cheeseburger.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
I'm sitting there.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
I can't, you know, imagine a little ten nine year
old black boy sitting there in front of a counter,
just mouth watering for a cheeseburger. Well, when the cheeseburger came,
I took it out the brown paper bag that it
was headed to my mom, and my mom was handed
a brown paper bag with it already in there. I
pulled it out and I sit down at the counter,
get my elbows ready, and I'm oh, I'm about to

(18:34):
bite off into this cheeseburger. But I looked to my left.
I'm reliving it even as I'm telling you this. I
looked to my left and there's this big, fat, white
guy and he's looking at me with a look that
scared the hell out of me. He looked at me
with a look that made me feel ashamed. He looked
at me with a look that I felt I wasn't safe,

(18:55):
that at any minute something real bad was gonna happen
to me. You can into it these things. And I
look up at my mama, and mama and she snaps
for me up, said, boy, get away from there, and
she pulled me off to the side. See, because that's
where I was supposed to eat my brother. Because off
by the side, I couldn't. I couldn't sit at the

(19:16):
at the little leather seat and enjoy my burger and
the white man next to me. That my little nine
year old But understand that real quick. I've always had
a thing about cheeseburgers. Even when I was in the Philippines,
whenever we come back to base, I always go back
to the base restaurant and reward myself with a cheeseburger.

(19:38):
I still do it to this very day, because I
have a right to eat a cheeseburger, not with some people.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
If you know what I'm saying, Jason, it's very powerful.
It's a very powerful story. Do you do you do
you have hope for America now? Or the devisive times
kind of not give you hope. It's you have such
an interesting vantage point in society because you're successful black
entrepreneur that's Republican, that's experienced racism at a time when

(20:08):
the Republican Party is in power. Yet there's certainly, as
an attorney, I can tell you there's a lot of
moves that the president is making that are just unethical, unconstitutional,
and he knows it. What is your sense now?

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Now you know you took us into some undiscovered territory
my whole life, I've said that as a black man
in America, which, to be honest, Jason, I try not
to abscribe to the to the construct using the matrix
as my ideal, I try not to abscribe to the
construct of the word black man, because there's too much

(20:47):
in it. It's like reading the code of the Matrix.
There's a lot that's attached to me acknowledging that I'm
a black man. That that shackles me, It headlocks me,
it does a lot of things. So I try not
to even speak in those terms. I look at the
Constitution of the United States of America as my saving grace.

(21:08):
The Bible in one hand, the Constitution in another. Unlike
what Baracko Saint Obama said, he said, I got a
Bible in one hand and a gun in the other.
Now Bible in one hand, Constitution in the other. So
I checked myself against the Constitution all the time, and
anybody who tries to lead me, I checked them against
the Constitution. With all due respect. I wish I had

(21:30):
a woman named Devil Paul. She's at Esquire too. I
wish she was on this show. We might have to
come back around you and I and her and see
if we can't get her to come on. She's a
constitutional attorney and I had the honor of having her
on the show for Memorial Day. Pardon me, Jason. It

(21:52):
would be contentious and somewhat opinionated. I don't see where
President Trump is actually walking outside the guidelines of the Constitution.
In fact, he's had to go to court numerous times
only to have the courts hold his position. So I
don't know where that's where that's coming me.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
I'll respond to two things. That one and then but
the first thing that you said, you know, I was
like calling you a black man. And it's so funny
you say that, because I hate when people call me
a Jewish person, because it also is so loaded and
one dimensional, like I don't. I hate the labels, and

(22:32):
it's all social constructs and it doesn't really So I'm
like offended for you for the way that I'm bringing
that up. And it's narrowing and not helpful. It's more
to tease out your personal narrative and which you were.
You enriched me with some of that, but.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
I recognize you heil from the Jewish household. Allow me
to say, become.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Told, thank you, thank you. I'll respond to the unconstitutional nature.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
You're right.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
A good counter to the fact that we're not actually
living in a tyranny, we're not actually living in a dictatorship,
is the fact that once the court says something that
Donald backs off. He's not trying to go outside the bounds.
He's playing within the rules. But for me as an attorney,
the time when he was writing executive orders, this was

(23:21):
in the very first couple of weeks of his presidency
where he was writing forty seven, where he's writing executive orders,
I actually voted for him the second time, not the
first time or the second, but you know, I just
did not think that Kamala Harris was was a good

(23:41):
option for us.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Come on, Jason, give be aasist man.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
No, she's very shady. And when she was the district
attorney out in San Francisco, in California, where I'm from,
and I remember, I don't remember this, but I've followed
her career enough and looked into it, where she was
prosecuting true on see, So she was prosecuting the youth
that didn't make it to school, probably because they're just
having wanderlust and they're good kids otherwise, and you're gonna

(24:11):
put them in jail, and you know that just to
boost her numbers. To me, that seemed like enough of
a reason to not trust this person. And he never
really gets straight answers out of her she's very clearly
just regurgitating things. And there's something about the fact that
mister Trump does not read off of scripts. He's very
much off the cuff. There's something authentic.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Man, I interject real quick on this. Kamelaur, Kamala Harris.
You know, there's a lot of names that people have
for them, all projuratives speaking of blackism or blacks. Right,
Kamala Harris was obliged to put a black mom in
jail because her daughter had sickle cell anemia and had
to recoup at home, and Kamala Harris promptly put the

(24:54):
mom in jail for her child not appearing in school.
That's how robotic Nazist Marxist Kamala has is. And so
when she tries to chucking job on a stage with
people like Meg the Stallion to Garne a vote, I'm
absolutely appalled and disgusted at her. You know, on one end,

(25:16):
black people say a means to an end, but once
she has power, like Kuella Deville or someone, once she
has power, it's a wrap.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Yeah, that's a very specific, nuanced story that's horrible that
you know, articulates what I was just getting at. But
to go with Donald when he was in office this
forty seventh and he writes executive orders against law firms,
revoking security clearances and pulling government contracts against the law
firms like Paul Weiss for doing things and representing people

(25:49):
that he did not agree with that and then once
the court struck the executive order, he obliged. But before that,
the law firms actually bowed to him and settled and
gave a billion dollars worth of free legal work for
things that he thinks are important. And that to me
was a really, really horrible thing. And that's what I'm

(26:11):
talking about when he violates the constitution, that's what I'm
talking aout when it's unethical, because the most fundamental thing
in this country, the thing that's the backbone what makes
America great, is the judicial system. You go to China
and you invest in China and you open a business there.
If you're really successful, eventually the Chinese government will kick
down the door and say we'd like to be partners

(26:32):
with you. And then you say, well, I don't want
to be partners with you. And then they say, well
family again, Yeah, you'll never see your family again. Oh,
I guess we are partners. And that's the reason why
the investments in countries like Russia, China, you go further
down the line, are less and less because it's unpredictable,
whereas in the United States of America, it's very predictable.
The laws are enforced by the sheriff, so anybody can

(26:55):
have something that they feel.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
No, Jason, I mean, I hear what you said about why,
and I remember him as I said, I'm a fiend
for the Constitution and understand your your your faith in
the justice system of America. You're an officer of the court.
But when you say Weissman, I say Hunter Biden, and
Hunter Biden.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
I was saying Paul Weiss, I was saying, Paul Whits's
the law firm. Uh there there, there were the law
firm that Trump first targeted in his executive order. That's
what I was getting at. And when you threaten who
someone could represent, that's when you really start to attack,
Like you brought up Johnny Cochran. Imagine if people would
have been able to get Johnny Cockran disqualified. He cannot

(27:38):
represent O. J. Simpson. It's so reprehensible. I mean, that
would just be anti ethical to the entire notion of
what this country is built on.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
And I'm gonna have to go on both side'na split
myself in two. One part of me totally agrees with you,
and the other part of me says that the bidens,
the left and the passionate socialist or whatever, they made
this personal with President Trump. They went after his entire
absolute life, and they violated cat in Law too, just

(28:08):
to get at him. So I think it's only human nature.
I'm not defending it. That's why I say I have
to split myself in two, because I have to agree
with you, and I can understand where President Trump is
coming from. You imagine, Jason, somebody wore you out like
an old kung Fu movie. You remember that. Back in
my day when I was a kid, on Saturday mornings,
we get up and go watch the kung Fu movies.

(28:28):
In the kung Fu movie, the hero in his infancy
would always get beat up by the bad guys. I
mean that was just inevitable. He's you know, he got
his butt whooked right, and then he went off into
the mountains or whatever, and he stuck his hands in
some hot sand and practiced awhile, you know, and he
came back base, and he came back with a white
gee on and his hair looking gray, and he whooped

(28:51):
everybody's butt. Well, forty five was the infant Trump, and
he didn't know how treacherous things could get, so they
kind of whooped his butt. They got at him. You know,
this is Trump forty seven, and they've come after Ivanka.
They went after the son. You see what what's his

(29:13):
youngest son's name? By Trump? Baron Trump Baron, young baron
Trump walked up to Joe Biden and he said something
to him that made his butt pucker. I think I
figured out what it was. But again they took and
when I say they, I'm talking about the powers that
be on the left. They went a little bit too far.

(29:33):
So if Trump in the pendulum swing went a little
bit too far too, we got to understand. Somebody tried
to blow his head off, and the Secret Service was like, oh,
were we supposed to protect you? So you know what
I mean, I think he has the right to be
a little yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
I mean it's very easy for me. It's very easy
for me to judge. I have no idea what it's
like to be under that kind of pressure and to
make those kind of moves and to get drunk on
that level of power, and who knows. I don't think
with the.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Word drunk on power in there if Trump won't if
Trump was drunk on power. Brother, Okay, fine, we're gonna
hide this conversation. It looks like this is where we are,
So here's where we are. Look honestly, and this is
this is This is not me advocating violence. I wouldn't
do it, but since we're in this area, I'm gonna
say it. Jason, I have no doubt in my mind

(30:21):
that if Donald J. Trump walked up to the National
Forum with all the cameras at array. Uh, I got
something from my mother. Okay, watch this. If Trump walked
up to a to a podium today, lied and said, America,
we've tried it, and these people are just no damn good,

(30:43):
They're crazy. It's over. I'm telling all Americans to go
get their weapons, get your houses ready. Law enforcement is
going to be on every corner, and those of you
who are willing to fight, you simply need to show
up tonight because we've had it. My friends, if Trump
said that, fifty million people would show up on every
corner of every street, in America. No, he's very restrained,

(31:07):
and he does believe in the Constitution because he wields
a power that I don't think we actually into it.

Speaker 7 (31:12):
Yet.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
He has the power to do a whole lot more
than what he's doing, and yet he's in the guidelines.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Up.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
I'm the president for a limited time, so I'm gonna
get as much done as I can, as fast as
i can.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
End. Yeah, I think that him not balancing the budget.
He bankrupted casinos and he knows how to file bankruptcy
better than anybody else, So I don't know if it
was reasonable to expect it, but him not balancing the
budget so many other things that he's doing.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Said, wow, okay, because you brought us into the weeds,
as we both call it in the podcast game. But
thank god I have Connie. Connie's telling me it's time
for a break, So you're good for segment three. Let's
do it, baby, out standing ladies into you know what
time it is, and hey, somewhere in here, we just

(32:03):
might talk about some cars. We might, but if we don't,
we're still having a good time. We gotta take a
station break, ladies and gentlemen, I'm thinking you don't want
to miss segment three because Jason's taking us on a ride.
Ladies and gentlemen, We'll be right back after these messages.
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Speaker 1 (33:44):
Hey, Hey, it's a boy. Ken White hosted The south
Side Unicorn Show and this is the third segment of
a show with Jason ingbar A attorney at law, a
man who is very laser focus. I'm getting that. I'm
sure if you've listened to one and two you're getting
that too. This is a fun ride for yours, truly,
the South Side unicor on because my my mind, that's

(34:07):
that's the essence of our country, that's how it's done.
Jason Is, I don't know if he's a Republican. I
wouldn't say that he is. I think he's a highly
intelligent man who is intuitive that Kamala Harris was just
not the move. I don't care how much you're like that.
I don't care you know how many rap stars she

(34:27):
bought on the stage. She just wasn't the move. And Jason,
you make me breathe a breath of fresh air, brother,
because we can be diametrically opposed on a lot of things.
But it's sort of like, uh, what was that movie?
Gosh darn it, I can't even remember the name of
it now. It's got Chris Rocket, not Chris Rock. I'm

(34:48):
gonna forget the whole name of the movie. But it's
a Chinese guy and a black guy that cops Rush Hour.
There were scenes in Rush Hour where when they were
fighting the bad guys, they had to cooperate, and they
would he would hold his hands and you know, he'd
kicked one of the bad guys in the face and
he flipped over his back and punch the other guy.
There are times when Americans, whether you're left wing or

(35:10):
right wing, we gotta fight like the guys in Rush Out.
I'm gonna hold your head if Jason knocked that fool out. Man.
So you not voting for Kamala Harris as a person
who would normally especially let me get this straight. I'm
not being racist, That's not what I'm doing. But man,
I got you now. You are a Jewish attorney from

(35:31):
Los Angeles. You graduated from UCLA. Woo. You should have
told me that before we started talking. But you know
what I'm saying, For you to be on that side
of the house and for me to be on the side,
I am for you to be white for me to
be black. And so it's a it's a serious ying
yang that we're dealing with here. But I wanted to
give you, you know, props and recognition that at the

(35:54):
moment it mattered the most. You couldn't drop the hammer
for Kamala Harrison.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Thank you for that, I voted for Hillary. But to
pull it back to some of the lawsuits that I've
been getting involved in. The two main lawsuits that I'm
focused on the most activity right now is against Toyota.
Fascinating case. So Toyota created a car that runs not

(36:20):
on gas, not on electric, but on hydrogen. Hydrogen H
two oh so H two is an element that's the
most abundant in the universe. Hydrogen can be made through water,
Hydrogen fuel can be made through water. But the way
that ninety nine percent of hydrogen is made nowadays is

(36:42):
by steam reforming methane. So you take methane, which is
the exact fossil fuel that's killing the environment, you heat
it up enough and you can isolate the hydrogen elements
of it, and then you can convert that to use
it as fuel. And Toyota has fallen in love with
this idea since the late nineties, and they pushed for
California to build infrastructure around this fuel and they were

(37:05):
successful in getting hundreds of millions of dollars. And you
living in California, me living in California, we all paid
for it because DMV fees got hiked up by three
bucks a year, so you don't really feel it, but
that revenue.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Wait, wait, wait a minute, adjacent, I don't own a
hydrogen car and I'm paying for it.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Yes, sir, oh, you can thank the Democrats of California
for falling for this absolute just nonsense. And I have
sued Gavin Newsom as it relates to this case because
he's the one right now that's approving the legislation budgeting
on this, giving literally hundreds of millions of dollars that
just benefits these Asian companies to Yoda and Hyundai, they're

(37:49):
the only ones that got in the game at all.
And the reason that he's doing it is because they
are just very successful at lobbying. They have a lot
of jobs. Until twenty seventeen, Toyota was headquartered out in Torrance, California,
so southern California. Now, the way that they're making the
hydrogen is actually worse for the environment, So California is

(38:11):
no business helping them subsidize this because they're polluting the
environment with this methane created hydride.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
I thought Captain Slickhair was the king of ecology. I
thought he was mister green Man. You know, Captain Planet
so you're telling me that because of the lobbyist aka
the Bibers, this man is falling into a pit. That's
worse than say, taking care of Willistar mammoth and doing
some construction.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Absolutely, they are polluting the environment. It pollutes the environment
like by tenfold. I'm not exaggerating of gas or electric cars.
These hydrogen cars and they sold about twenty five thousand
of them over the years between Toyota and Hyundai. And
that's not a small amount of people to affect because
you think about the families that the main thing is
these cars don't work. So if it was just this

(39:00):
green thing, I probably wouldn't have sued Toyota because I'm
not such a good person and I probably pollute the
environment too. I don't use paper straws. I drive a
gas car myself, so I'm not this like saint of
a human being when it comes to the environment. Myself,
I wouldn't be chance. It's a bulble, it's a bulbos
to that I don't know what it is, but these

(39:20):
cars do not work. Now, the reason they were doing
it was because battery electric vehicles were growing in popularity
and Toyota did not want to become battery electric dependent.
Because Toyota out over there in Japan has huge holdings
in liquefied natural gas, so it's very important for them
to figure out a way to keep LNG still relevant.

(39:44):
And they saw hydrogen as a way to keep it relevant.
And they've bet on this numerous times. They've done this
in Germany, Norway, Scandinavia. It's always failed. They gave to
the Canadian government forty five Maris. You know, I'll tell
you the story how I got it.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
You pronounced the day. Thank you for that, because I was.
I was curious. Mariah, you know, did they name it
after Mariah Carey? What's going on here?

Speaker 2 (40:06):
No, it's Mariah, which means future in Japan, and the
future is bleak for Toyota if they don't shape up
their act. This woman calls me in twenty twenty three
February and she's like, Jason, this car that Toyota sold
me is cooking my ass. It's cooking my ass. And
I'm like, what is she talking about? What is she saying?
Cali Williams, she was the first client out of this.

(40:27):
I went up and met her in Northern California when
we did a protest at City Hall in the Capitol.
And the reason was, in the first generation of this car,
the seat heaters would not turn off, so they would
randomly turn on, and you can imagine in California how
horrible that would be. She had to start putting towels,
double layer towels on the car so I wouldn't cook

(40:47):
her butt. And I.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
What you said, I thought, she said, the car is
kicking my ass.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
It's cooking, yes, sir, cooking her ass. And the whole
thing sounded so bizarre to me. She's like talking about
hydrogen and when she goes to fill up at the pump,
hydrogen has to be chilled below zero, so often the
fuel pump will freeze onto the car and it will
just stay stuck. You'll stay stuck there. Aside from the

(41:15):
many electrical problems that these cars have experienced, and everything
she was saying sounded so bizarre to me. I didn't
even want to take the case because I thought, for
sure Toyota, at the very least would make you sign
a waiver, like when you go skydiving or skiing. It's
like if I die, I can't sue you. You know.
I thought Toyota would give her some kind of form
she could sign. Nope, they didn't give her anything. They
sold it to her like it was a regular car,

(41:35):
and it looks like a Lexus. It's built on the
Lexus frame, So.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
I've gotten a look at it esthetically. It's a nice car.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
It's a beautiful car, and it drives really well when
you can get fuel and when it doesn't have electrical issues.
But the parking sensors are too sensitive. People have had
times on the freeway where it just stops. There's some
real issues with this car, and there's.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
A life change injuries. Has has death resulted?

Speaker 2 (42:02):
As they used There haven't been any injuries. You got
to give credit to the Japanese. They engineered a car.
I mean, hydrogen is easily the most flammable thing you
could fuel a car with. So the fact that these
cars aren't blowing up, that's the reason why I have
the case. If the cars are blowing up, it would
have gone to way more prominent attorneys. I'm a young
man in the game. I've only been an attorney nine years,
so I got lucky that it's kind of this odd

(42:25):
in between thing where it didn't cause any personal injury
to people. But the cars do not work. So I
represent about a thousand people that bought these cars and
they are suing the hell out of to Yoda, and
Toyota does not seem to give a damn about these people.
They are pretending.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Washing real quick. You know, when I hear what you're saying,
it sounds like that ye old word. And I'll say
ye old word because it's kind of old. The class
action lawsuit. Has this thing reached the levels with the
court has said, okay, you can so enjoying these cases
or are you doing an individually case by case.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Asking all the right questions. I initially filed it as
a class action in federal court, and then Toyota said, well,
there's an arbitration clause and every single thing that you.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Go right there when you said they didn't make them
sign a waiver. Arbitration is a form of waiver.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Arbitration is a form of waiver. Everything in America, from
a credit card to a cell phone, you cannot sue
on a class basis. And I said, perfect, you want
to go to arbitration, good arbitration, And I initiated one
hundred and fifty arbitrations. I said, I'll beat you anywhere.
I'll will beat you. In a house, I will beat
you with a mouse like I don't care what you

(43:42):
where you want to try this case, I'm going to
beat you. And then we started filing them individually in
state court. I sued only the manufacturer because against the
manufacturer there's no arbitration clause. You only have an arbitration
clause with the dealership that's who you did the deal with.
So I only sued the manufacturer. I said, the manufacturers,
the ones putting it on the road, and a court

(44:04):
agreed with me. So we have just hundreds of people
in an individual case against Toyota, the manufacturers.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
I about one hundred and fifty individual clients that you're
working for in this regard.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
One hundred and fifty in arbitration, and five hundred and
eighty in the Stakehore case, where it's all in an
individual basis, and the judge agreed with us that it
will stay just as an individual class action. Now, typically
if you want to sue as a class it takes
two three years in order. You brought up the water case.
I have a water case in Southgate, California, Southgate, Los Angeles.

(44:37):
Actually there's some water that was killing people. I filed
that as a class. You can fight for two or
three years if that's going to become a class or not.
The other case that I was telling you about the
solar panel, I didn't tell you about it. But well,
to back up a second, these these companies were getting

(44:59):
tax credits because of the Biden administration. They passed the
Inflation Reduction Act. The oh we gotta we gotta take
a break. I can see, I can see from I was.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
Just asking, is it time to take a break? Is
it a break? Let's let's see, because she she kind
of keeps me, Like I said, she keeps me on
the railers because I don't want to produce a show
that they won't take this out. Probably Connie, didn't you
take a break under one minute forty five seconds?

Speaker 2 (45:31):
You want to know?

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Oh yeah, yeah, let me just put it in there
and then we'll come back at it. Because I could
see that you were saying that it was by the time. Jason. Yeah, man,
you you're a hell a guy. You got how old
are you?

Speaker 2 (45:42):
Like?

Speaker 1 (45:42):
Thirty five?

Speaker 2 (45:44):
Thirty three? Sir?

Speaker 1 (45:45):
Yeah, you make me wish I was a young man again.
I'd go partying with you. Uh ladies and gentlemen. We
will be right back after these messages. Go know where.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
When I see a new broadcast from the south Side Unicorn,
I can't wait to listen to it. You just never
know what he's gonna say.

Speaker 4 (46:19):
Step why train the people only to consume Step two.
Infiltrate adults with the news. Step three, and doctor Nathan
children through the schools and the music and the apps
on the phones that they used.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
Step four.

Speaker 4 (46:30):
Separate the right from the left. Step five, separate the
white from the black. Step six, separate.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
The rich from the poor.

Speaker 4 (46:37):
Use religion, then the quality to separate a more.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Step seven.

Speaker 4 (46:40):
Fabricate a problem, made a lie. Step eight, put it
down the news every night.

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Step nine.

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When people start to fight and to buy, take control
of This is called situational design.

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Speaker 1 (47:12):
Hey, Hey, it's your boy, Ken White, host of the
south Side Unicorn Show, and we are back for the
fourth and final segment with Jason Ingbar. You know, I
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all ears man. I mean, normally I'm the one running
my mouth and saying but I love that. But I
really want to know more about this car. I do

(47:55):
see some issues here that I'm sure my audience wants
me to ask you. When they did the test on
this vehicle, Okay, they didn't see these eras, the seats
that don't stop heating, the sub zero fueling system locking
to the car. Don't they have a recall program.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
Not for this car. This was a pet project by them,
and they turned their eyes. They fudged a lot of
the testing too. I have an insider that signed a
sworn affidavit to this effect that they would cook. Yeah,
they would fuel the car. They would fuel the car
differently before they went to get it tested by the EPA.

(48:42):
They would fuel it differently than it would be fueled for.
Then would the people be fueled, be fueling the car.
But one thing that Donald Trump did do in this
big beautiful bill was he coulbas a tax credit that
these hydrogen makers were getting, so hydrogen makers were getting
paid by the government to make this nonsense fuel, and

(49:03):
he kubash that. Another case that I'm dealing with is
solar panel fraud. Solar panel fraud is a big deal
because there was a big federal tax credit also given
by the Biden administration in his Inflation Reduction Act that
Trump cabashed, and that tax credit created so much fraud
in the solar panel industry. There are really people hurting.

(49:25):
So in both instances, there was definitely a lot of
democratic politics that created and nurtured this fraud that Toyota's
perpetuating on its customers. I think that in a big way,
these companies like Toyota and Hundai are the only ones
that sell these cars. They sold such a small amount
of these cars. I told you in the third segment
that they sold twenty five thousand of these cars. That's

(49:48):
not a lot of cars. They sold twenty five thousand.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
You can find twenty five thousand cars in a junkyard.
If you find one big enough, you know.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Yeah. To put it in perspective, they sell three hundred
and seventy five thousand a year each, Toyota and Hundai,
So in the span that they sold the twenty five
thousand hydrogen cars, they sold millions of regular cars. They
knew what they were doing. They knew if they sold
a small enough amount of the cars, it wouldn't affect
their brand and they would be able to withstand the
litigation and not really think much of it. And that

(50:17):
is what's going on, and it's really unfortunate to watch
that this.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
With the deep pockets that both of them have, the
exposure you're about to give them the punch to the
eye that's in your fist, you would think they'd just
be writing checks and saying, give us back the car.
You know, here's eighty percent of your money back. My bad.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Yeah. Hyundai told me to go f myself multiple times
in loyally ways. Of course, Toyota is more interested in
trying to come up with the consumer way of dealing
with this customer friendly way of dealing with this, and
hopefully we were able to bring the leaf to people
soon on that front. But it's definitely fast. I used

(51:00):
to represent Hyundai, I used to represent car manufacturers. I
did Lemon law defense for Audi and Volkswagen, and so
I have a sense of these companies and this is
truly bizarre behavior by them. They gave people free hydrogen
fuel in order to lure them into this car, and
then they fuel.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
What do you mean?

Speaker 2 (51:19):
They gave them a debit card of fifteen thousand dollars
in order to buy the fuel, which sounds all sweet
and everything. And similar to the McDonald's case, that woman
that had the coffee in between her legs and she
burnt herself, and back in the nineties, the New York
Post and many other nationally syndicated papers were blasting this

(51:41):
woman saying, oh, you're sue McDonald's is a cash grab,
ambulance chasing type deal. But they neglected to mention that
this woman had written a letter to McDonald saying, please
just pay my medical bills, and.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
Why she actually had meat coming off of her right.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
She had meat coming off of her She needed to
get skin graft surgery in the nineties. Yet in our heart,
these brands do such a good job at marketing that
it's like, ah, you want to sue McDonald's like for
some reason, even the little guys are like, don't sue McDonald's.
And it takes a lot of unearthing the details. McDonald's
knew that the coffee was being boiled at two hundred degrees.

(52:17):
They didn't even deny it the trial. They had thousands
of complaints that people were burning themselves.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Yeah, yeah, down your coffee in and do both at
the same time.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
So similar, similar with this thing. They are getting the
complaints by the thousands, and they just don't seem to care.
And yet even when this woman called me in my heart,
one of my first cars was a Toyota Corolla was
a great car. I didn't want to sue to Yota.
It's an amazing thing out These brands really infuse you
with a sense of loyalty to the point that you
don't want to go to war with them. And it
took a lot to unveil how much frauded deception to

(52:52):
Yota put people through in order to get a little
bit of profit and push this ridiculous hydrogen pipe dream
on people. And one of the things was this free
fuel card, which makes it sound like pretty reasonable, like
a good deal. In twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three.
It costs you about fifty bucks to fill up your car,
this hydrogen car, so you get a fifteen thousand dollars

(53:14):
fuel card. That's a lot of phillips.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
Yeah, and let me let me put this in there.
You know, to the credit of Toyota and Hewd, you
gotta you gotta give them this much. The mariih broke
the Guineas Book of World Records with an impressive eight
hundred and forty five mile trip with zero emissions. So
when the car works, it works pretty damn good. Eight

(53:37):
hundred and forty five miles on.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
A fillip can I can I cuss on this show.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
I would ask that you not, but go ahead.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
Then I will not. I will say that that is
complete bogus that.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
I just wanted to say. I know what you wanted
to say. The bulls wouldn't be too happy, But that's okay.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
That is complete bogus that that never happened that undred
mile radius. Part of the reason why I'm suing also
is that I have a thousand people. They're all walks
of life, you know, mister White. They come from every
area of California. These people are not corroborating their stories
before they call me. They're Latinos, they're working class, their attorneys,
they're doctors, they're school teachers. From every part of the state.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
They as they identify that way that's cold and black.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
They only yes, they and they only sold this in California,
but it's been up and down the state. People tell
me the same thing. They don't get more than two
hundred miles on this car.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
Oh with the fifty bucks, I mean, okay, they put
fifty dollars worth of the hydrogen into the car and
they only get in two hundred miles, Yes, sir, so,
then Guinea's Book of World Wakers got a problem.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Yes, they're they're fudging that. They're fudging that. There's a
different there's a different prototype that they're using for that thing.
It is not the car that you're seeing on the streets.
But Toyota's brilliant with their marketing. Now hydrogen has quadrupled
in price, so it's now closer to two hundred dollars
in order for people to fill up this car fifteen dollars.
Fuel card eats up real quick, and people are hurting

(55:04):
because now they cannot afford literally to fuel up this
car where the fuel stations are always down the field
stations are always broken. These fuel stations. You know when
you go to Philip Gas, there's an odorant in the
gas at a stove at a gas station. It smells
something funky to put.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
That put in there, so to octane and all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Yeah, precisely. So you know, if there's a leak, hydrogen
needs to be so pure that they cannot even put
an odorant in it because that would break the machines down.
That's how finicky these hydrogen machines are.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
So it wasn't ready for prime time when they did this.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
There you got wish you were on the jury.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
There you go, well, you know, hey, because I see
where you're going with this, and so, with all due respect, Tony,
let me let me ask you this real quick, because
you hit me with so much my brain is going,
that's not compute. Okay. Do you have at least five
heartbreakings stories from these people that you could start to

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promote so that you turn the hearts of the people
against hynd You know what I'm saying, because they're full
of crap right now. I'm from filling for these people.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
How much what is the average cost of one of
these cars sixty thousand dollars MSRP. They're given rebates. I
have tons of heartbreaking stories, really heartbreaking stories. One guy
comes to mind, Zachary Graham. He's a military kid, active
in the military, and they lied to him about this car.
He bought it. He got deployed out of state. He

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went back to return it because he thought he could
return They said, no worries, if you get deployed, just
come back and return it. Then they denied him his
ability to be able to return it, and he had
to take a loan out in order to pay it
off because he couldn't use it where he got deployed.
I mean, the stories are heartbreaking. And kat Lly five
just did a piece where they talk actually to mister
Graham and a number of other folks. K t Elly

(56:56):
five was really.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
Good to have that. Yeah, it's that time. You know
what you're telling me brings back to and you know
you got especially in the black community. You know, we
have the minstrel men and the you know, the buck
dancers and all that people that just didn't do people well.
And what I'm reminded of with your story right now,

(57:17):
Jason Is the eighteen nineties, the eighteen forties, there was
a type of person called the snake oil salesman. The
snake oil salesman would go through town and they'd give
you these elixirs and they'd swear that that snake oil
would cure, you know, crisis, They would cure whatever ails.

(57:38):
You take two SIPs of this at night, and when
you wake up in the morning, I promise you'll feel
like a new man. And by morning they were already
off to another town, and you still had your problems
in this bottle of bull I can't I almost made
me curse this bottle of bull juice. You know that
you couldn't do nothing with. What I'm hearing is these

(57:59):
these these guys are modern day snake oh salesman. They
sold these people something that actually has no efficacy. Good
to it.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
It's a lot worse because snake oil. At least if
you're drinking something that's really orange juice and not an elixir,
no harm, no foul. This you're trapping someone in a car.
It's a car centric state, California. You really need a
car under the lids. And if you're stuck in a car,
you can't use and you're someone that can't afford to
just go get another car. I mean, people are crying
to call me every day and I don't blame them,

(58:29):
and Toyoto's pretty.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
Hard because the economy of the car. There was the pitch. Right.
If Guinea's Book of World Records is telling people you
can get I'm gonna go snake all salesman right now.
You can get over eight hundred and fifty miles in
this car, Ladies. I'm telling you. On fifty bucks, y'all,
you can go eight hundred and fifty miles well to
a person that's trying to commute, because that's what California
is without a car in California. You and Deep Kimchi,

(58:54):
so I see what you're saying. But now one more question.
Are you saying that this car was secifically sold in
the state of California? Is it not sold anywhere else?

Speaker 2 (59:04):
It is not because you go try and convince text
the state of Texas to give one hundred million dollars
to an Asian company, they'll say no, thank you, sir.
You know, and no other state besides California was dumb
enough to allow this, and for some reason, California is
the only place where they planted hydrogen stations. We can
get into a whole lot more. They put the stations

(59:24):
in low income, in rich neighborhoods, but they sold the
car to low income folks. I mean, it's really pernicious
what they've what they've done, really disheartening and it should
really destroy their brand. I'll tell you something else, you know,
I think you.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
Got the grit in the time. You're a young man,
you're a smart man. I think over time, because you're
not going to give up. I don't see that you're
going to give up.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
All right, No, no, no, I'm not going to give up.
But I have to thank you for having me on
because the South Side Unicorn Show. Maybe it's not the
international sensation yet, but it is. It is. It is
a widely listened to show, and it's independent media that
they cannot control. And they care a lot about this.
I know they care a lot about this because they're lawyers.

(01:00:06):
I went on some woman's show, she's a really sweet
lady out of Florida, Voices for Justice, Jen Hardy. They
only had a few hundred views and they were emailing me,
stop doing media, stop doing so they care. They care
about this coverage. You put something in the show notes
about how Toyota there's allegations of fraud, those things bubbling
up in the Internet algorithm. They hate it. They're watching.

(01:00:29):
You'll see Toyota Comm's people are gonna be watching the show.
I don't know if you could tell the analytics, but
there will be people in Japan watching this show. They're
watching this right now, and they should be ashamed of
themselves what they're doing. Because people watching.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Let me, let me, let me give them a word
in my broken Korean that I like to use sometimes,
don't you know, not by yosa an. You got it right, Conny,
you know what I said.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
How are you so familiar with with Korean culture?

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Well, because remember that ten year old boy I told
you about. Yes, he grew up and he had to
get out of the South Side of Chicago because the
gangs tried to beat him up and make him join
a gang, and he intoited. I'm not going to join
a gang. My mama would kill me. So if I'm
going to die, y'all just need to go ahead and

(01:01:17):
do it. So make a long story short. When I
graduated high school at sixteen, I was a member of
the Greatest Chicago Area program for gifted children. But there
was no money back in those days. Back in the seventies,
there was no money. You weren't getting like they showing
the podcast shows and stuff, these young fortunate blacks who
were getting twenty and thirty and forty scholarships. You know,

(01:01:39):
I grew up on the South side of Chicago in
the seventies. That kind of stuff didn't exist. In fact,
if you were an intelligent black human being, you had
a bullseye on his back. You know what I'm saying.
They weren't trying to help you. They're trying to take
you out. And so my only way out was to
join the United States Air Force. And at the age
of seventeen, I said, Mama, sign here, sign here, Sign here,
Sign here. She's like, she's like, boy, what am I signing?

(01:02:02):
You sign him for me to go into the Air Force.
She's like, what you're gonna do with that. I'm like,
listen to me, Mama. I would rather get paid to
get shot at than to get shot at for free.
And so, you know what I mean, I'm gonna get
as a black man, or one that is identified as
a black man, I'm gonna get shot at one way
to the other. That's just see as a white man.
You know, even when I'm telling you this, it sounds alien.

(01:02:23):
But I don't like him. But there was a black
congressman who was just on major TV saying that racism
is causing health problems for blacks. I don't like him.
He pulled the fire plug and so he can kiss
my hand anyway. I don't like him, but I believe
he touched on a little bit of something. There is
an incredible different type of stress that exists for the

(01:02:45):
black man that the rest of the world will never know.
And so my familiarity with Korean and papunyin Yolano, all
these different languages is when I joined the Air Force,
I was a Pacific Air Force person, so I was
in Korea, Japan, Guam, and I love people. So you know,
when I would get off off duty, I put on

(01:03:07):
my civilian clothes. I got a picture I would love
to show you. It's a picture of a Korean child
in a taxi next to mine who had never seen
a black human being before in their life. And because
I was always taking pictures, that picture is priceless because
that kid was like, but I didn't take offense to it.
I thought it was funny, you know, because I knew
he had never seen a black person. So make a

(01:03:28):
long story short, I endeavored to learn the languages of
the countries that I was in.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
This is beautiful. What did that? I interrupted you? What
does that phrase mean that you oh.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
Junction in not by yo, Sadam. That means you are
a very bad person. And I'm talking to you, Toyota
and hoyotan day. I'm talking to both of you. Guys.
We're gonna be coming at you. I'm gonna go ahead
and try to make this show go viral, because okay,
what did a doctor Martin Luther King Jr. Say? He said,
injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. You guys

(01:04:02):
did wrong. You got twenty five thousand people out there
that you hustled. You got big pockets, big bank. My
boy with the greasy hair, he got some money. Looks
like the state of California got some money because Texas
would have told you get out of here with that snake,
oil boy, but you got lucky. You came in here
and you ran your little experiment. Have a heart, can't

(01:04:22):
we all just get along. Get them people back their money,
damn it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
Yes, sir, yes, sir, I would vote for you for president.
I'll tell you that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
Well, there's a story. County's laughing already. There's a story
behind that. I'll give it to you real quick. Ever,
ever since I was a child, I was enamored with
the number forty four my bedroom. If the bedroom still existed,
but it got sold after my mom passed away. My
bedroom all was speckled with the number forty four. When
I'd give my homework to my school teacher, in the

(01:04:55):
upper right hand corner, in addition to my name, I'd
have forty four in there. One day, as a fifteen
year old, I went into a tantrum and all I
kept saying was forty four, forty four, forty four, And
I couldn't shake it. And my grandmother, who was part
of Indian she looked at me with those deep black eyes,
and she said, don't join the Air Force. You go
to the University of Illinois and you get that law

(01:05:16):
degree you always talked about, and you will become the
first black president of the United States of America. My
cousin Sheryl fell back in a chair because she's like Kenny,
you always wrote forty four on your papers. And Barack
Obama became the forty fourth President of the United States
of America out of Chicago. Life has these you know

(01:05:37):
what I'm saying. If you look at the algorithms of life,
things do some weird stuff. So all I am is
an apple seed that fell on concrete and then fall
in the dirt. I fell in concrete.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
That's beautiful. That's beautiful. It's really really cool. I appreciate you.
I appreciate you. You're understanding the plight of these drivers.
It's been quite a row. They absolutely knew what they
were doing.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
They failed.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
They gave, like I said, forty five Maris to the
Quebec providence in Canada, and the government gave it back
after just nine months. Wow, you ever heard of that?
You ever heard of that someone giving back forty five
free cars. And the reason they said that was because
two out of three times it would fail to get
fuel at the pump that they had installed for them,

(01:06:25):
because the pump would break down, the pump would freeze
onto the car. So the Quebecian government actually gave back
these Maris and it was one Hundai car too, which
they gave back, so they have the data. They know
this car is not reliable.

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
Did that occur before they started proliferating these cars in California.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
During during but by now it's twenty twenty five, It
definitely happened years ago, and they're still selling the car.
You can go to Toyota Santa Monica and buy one
of these Marais. You can go to Toyota of Longo
and buy one of these Marais.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
One of these people that have been so injured by them,
I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
Come on, I think we froze up on mister White here.
But to answer your question, what you're saying, what you
were getting at was none of these people got injured

(01:07:21):
so much. And people did get injured. People are complaining
and they're just putting their heads in the sand. The
problem with this as a story is that it's kind
of anti climactic because people are just in a situation.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
Yeah, disconnected from the Internet for a minute. The Morai
is a mirage, is what I was going to say.
Just make the posters and go out front of Toyota.
The Morai is a mirage.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
Yeah, we protested out in city Hall and Sacramento and
Los Angeles. That's what KATL five did some coverage. You
can go see it. There's a YouTube clip has like
thirty thousand hits of just us protesting the marai is
a lie. The marai ist is a lie.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
Yeah, do not buy the Morai a lie. Oh I'm
being told that I really went over. I want this
show to produce on the cable station. Looks like we're
gonna have to get together again. There's another attorney that
I know. Her name is Deva Polly. She's a constitutionalist.
Would you care to endeavor and let us all come

(01:08:18):
back together.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
I would be honored to come back to your show.
I had a hell of a time. I have a
bunch more questions. I restrained myself. I don't want to
get scolded by you. I restrained myself from peppering you
with more questions about your very interesting life and journey.
And I'm very grateful for the work that you do
in the world and for having me on the show.
And I'd love to come back if you would have me.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
Thank you so much. Jason Ingbar attorney at law, A
man who has compassion, a man who works for the people.
I'm honored to have met you too, so I hate
that we have to go, but ladies and gentlemen, you
know what time it is, So here's the signature clothes. Hey,
listen to me. There's no place I'd rather be. There's

(01:08:57):
nothing more I'd rather do than being right here doing
this show for you. I'm your host, Ken White with
attorney in law Jason Ingbar and we are out.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
You're welcome, brother. That was that was wow