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in a court of law. Welcomeback to the swede an A project after
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an extended holiday break. Was goingto be back a couple of weeks ago,
but I fell ill really wasn't ableto record or do anything else for
that matter. But we are backon track and on schedule. Today's episode
is going to be a little bitdifferent than the other ones. I'm going
to put Pamela Woodring and Tanya Hookinto the same episode. And the pure
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reason I'm doing that is because PamelaWoodring, the amount of information is so
limited. If I did a singleepisode on her, it would only be
like maybe five minutes long, soI put her and Tanya Hook together.
My co host was unable to joinme, so I will be flying solo
on this episode. So let's talka little bit about Pamela Woodring. She
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was born on February fourteenth, nineteensixty nine, in Boise City, Oklahoma.
At the time of her death,she was thirty four years old.
She was from Guymon, Oklahoma,and had recently moved to Lawton after being
released from jail in December of twothousand and two. Woodring had also been
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arrested already a few times in Lawton. She was a known sex worker,
and just like the other women,she worked the streets of Cash Road and
was known to have a drug habit. She went missing sometime between May second
and June second, two thousand andthree. Were not exactly sure when her
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body was found on June fifth,two thousand and three by farm workers partially
under a bridge in a creek bedin southeastern Kiowa County, Oklahoma, and
where she was found was about twomiles north of the intersection of Highway fifty
four and forty nine. Now,the one thing about Pamela that is a
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little bit different is she was theonly victim to be found west of Lawton.
All the other victims were found eastor little bit south. Now,
also, like the other victims,she was found nude, She had no
outward signs of trauma on her body, there were no personal belongings located at
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the scene. The OSBI said thather body had been there for only a
few days, and of course hercause of death was undetermined, and in
an article from the Oklahoma they wenton to say, early indications have led
the OSBI to suspect that her deathcould be linked to the slayings of four
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other women whose bodies were discovered inor around Lawton. And like I had
previously mentioned, you know, justin conversation with my co host on earlier
episodes, Pamela wood Ring, whenshe was found, this was the breaking
point for OSBI and a lot oflaw enforcement because she was the one who
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actually brought every bloody together and determinedthese first five women were more than likely
killed by the same person or persons. So it was a very important case
at the time. And in thenext episode, I'll be talking about when
the agencies all got together from likefour different states to sit down and determine
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that there were actually five or sixother victims that are more than likely connected
to these first six victims. So, like I said, Pamela Wooding was
kind of the catalyst for all that. Now, it should also be known
that Pamela was the mother of threekids and sadly, her daughter passed away
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in two thousand and eight at theage of twenty years old. So there
you have it. Like I said, there's not that much information on this
case, unfortunately, but we stillcover it. We're still trying to get
attention on these cases. So whetherit was five minutes or an hour,
we still got to bring attention toit. Stayed a couple of sources.
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We have OSBI dot ok dot govcold case Pamela Woodring, we got KSWO
dot com, we got the Oklahomandot com. We also got some information
from find a Grave as well.So let's move on to the death of
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Tanya Murray Hook. She was seventeenyears old at the time of her death.
Tanya was born in Germany in nineteeneighty six, and she moved with
her mother to the United States afterher mother got married to a soldier who
was stationed at Fort Sill. Itwas a pretty hard transition for Tanya.
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She had ran away from home multipletimes, and that is according to one
of her neighbors. She was alsoa sex worker or believed to be a
sex worker living with her boyfriend atthe time. She was also working the
streets of Cash Road, using themotels on that road. She was last
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seen getting into a black pickup withan older white male. She was reported
missing on June thirtieth, two thousandand three by her mother. Neighbors say
Tanya's mother was absolutely determined to findher daughter. This neighbor said she always
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looked for her and asked us tohelp find her and put flyers out you
name it. The mother left nostone unturned to find her child. Now
an Tanya was still considered a missingperson. The case was worked by Detective
Brian Ball. He would actually revisitthe case from time to time, no
matter what was going on or whetherthe trail went cold or not. Now,
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on August twenty ninth, about twomonths after Tyn You went missing,
the remains of a teenage girl werefound in a ditch about a half mile
north of State Highway seventy four Balong May Avenue, about one hundred and
fifty feet from Walnut Creek. Now, this is near the town of Coal
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in northern McLean County. This istwo counties away from Lawton and This is
a pattern that we've been noticing andthat you guys have been probably noticing as
well, as that these bodies areoften found in other towns, other counties,
and as we progress and move forwardwith this season, there are also
bodies found in other states that authoritiesbelieve are related to these cases. And
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the thing was, they didn't knowthe girl's identity. She was a Jane
Doe and the cause of death wasalso unknown. It was classified as undetermined
because they he had been exposed tothe elements. Now, nobody really connected
this case with the previous five.Detective Brian Ball said, we would routinely
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get a lot of missing persons casesas the years went on. I would
think about the case from time totime and would have someone run her social
Security number through the system to seeif it popped up anywhere, but we
never got any hits. One day, a call comes in from a Texas
investigator, and this call turned thecase. Here's what Detective Ball said.
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He said he had a burnt bodyof a Jane Doe and it matched Tanya's
description. So I contacted Tanya's mother, who was now living in California,
and hunted down her daughter's dental recordshere in Lawton, so they do the
dental records, and Tanya's dental recordsdid not match the Texas Jane Doe.
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But detective Ball turned to a DNAdatabase administered by the Universe City of North
Texas in Denton, and Tanya Hook'smother and father, who were now living
in Georgia, submitted DNA swabs inJanuary of two thousand and eight. About
five months later, in May twothousand and eight, the University lab reported
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a hit on the McLean County JaneDoe. Dental records were then reviewed to
make one hundred and ten percent sureand then that's when the McClean County Jane
Doe was identified as Tanya Marie Hook, almost five years after she had gone
missing, and after this Jane Doebody was found. Unfortunately, Tanya's mother
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never received the news about her daughter'sidentity and the fact that her daughter had
passed away because she was terminally illwith cancer when she submitted the DNA sample
and she ended up passing away beforeshe ever learned of the results, which
is pretty damn said in my book, to be honest with you now,
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I do have questions why didn't wethink about this beforehand? Why wasn't their
dental records done long before two thousandand eight. I'm not a detective,
I'm not a cop, but itjust kind of makes sense. You know,
if you have those things available toyou, why not try it?
Same thing with a DNA sample.I know DNA has progressed like massively in
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the last ten years. We're solvingcases left and right. We're identifying Jane
Doe's left and right. Actually,there was one, you know, just
a couple months ago, and itwas a missing woman that we were going
to cover on this podcast. Theyidentified a Jane Doe that we were going
to cover on this podcast, andthen it was the same person. So
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I guess I don't know what tookso long to get all that stuff in
there. Like I said, notlaw enforcement, but you would think you
find an unidentified teenage girl's body ina ditch two months after a teenage girl
goes missing, And I understand there'sprobably lots of missing persons cases, and
actually it's not even a probably.I shouldn't even say that because I literally
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have an entire list of them alongwith these cases. So I get that,
But at the same time, howmany of them were teenage girls?
How many of these Jane do bodiesmatched that description? You would kind of
think it would make sense to maybego the dental records route, or even
DNA for that matter, but nottrying to be critical, but at the
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same time, seems like an obviousroad to take. I know, hindsight
is always twenty twenty. I getthat, But at the same time,
I work with the case breakers.Now I'm a member of that group,
so learning a lot from them.They're the same way. And these people
are ex retired FBI and some ofthem are still active detectives and private investigators
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and stuff, and the hindsight isn'treally a factor to them, because you
know, kind of makes sense rightoff the bat. But anyway, let
me stay some sources real quick.We have kfoer dot com, the Oklahoman
dot com, KSWO dot com,and OSBI dot ok dot gov. So
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ways you can contact the podcast ifyou have any information you would like to
be interviewed. If you are arelative or friend of any of these victims,
you are more than welcome to comeon the podcast anytime. You can
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want to. If you don't wantto deal with authorities and you would rather
submit a tip to us here atthe Sweet Anna Project, we are totally
fine with that. We will keepyour anonymity. That is not a problem.
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The email is Sweetie Anna Project atgmail dot com. So with that
behind us, it's glad to beback reporting on these cases again. Thanks
for joining us, and we willbe talking to you here again soon on the