Ep. 195 - Border crisis, Black men trending conservative, "You Big Dummy" & more

Border crisis, Black men trending conservative, "You Big Dummy" & more

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welcome. You're listening to the ToddAllen Show. I'm your host, Professor
Econ Todd Allen in Sequestered Studios withAstley Herzog. Astley, how are you
doing. I'm good. I'm inSouth Carolina this week, outstanding, Darvill
King, Benmorrow? How are you, sir? I'm good. I'm at
home this week. So you're athome in Cleveland. You're not in the

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shelter in San Francisco, right,No, that is not on. And
Khaledamar is on assignment where we don'tknow, but we want to give a
shout out to kalid Um wherever heis. I'm sure there's probably dancers and
chicken. M oh, we knowchicken. I can't wait until he hears

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that, right. I'm sorry,I just amadio Row. How have you
been, Ashley Um, I've beendoing pretty well. Good good. So
what's happening down there in North Cacilaki, South Carolina, South Calila. I'm

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just down a family trip with myparents and my sister and her family.
So Were you just in South Carolina? Were you in North Carolina to at
any point? I was in NorthCarolina. We stayed overnight at my aunt's
house. She lives like an hourfrom Charlotte. Um, we drove down

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here, so uh so yeah weuh we did kind of a road trip.
We drove through the Blue Ridge Mountainsand stuff. Right, so he
was in North Takilaki. Okay,yeah, I was you you were you
weren't anywhere near the border crisis,thank god? Oh no, no,
no no, so yeahs though.Yeah, well let's talk about let's do

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a round table, let's talk aboutsome of the things that are going on
the I don't know, I don'tknow. Sleepy Joe Biden. I think
that that was when when Trump calledhim sleepy Joe. I thought that was
very appropriate. And we see itnow, Um, Sleepy Joe Biden has
a problem that he just does notwant to admit he has down at the

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southern border. They pooh pooed thewall, but yet they build a wall
in Washington, D C. Andnow, uh, you know, Joe
Biden's letting and everybody coming across.And I think you were right, Darbio
when you said that you know hereit is that we're trying to do things
the right way. Trying to geta visa from my wife to come from

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Columbia to the US. Why notjust you know, let her, let
her go to Mexico and walk acrossthe border. I mean, the right.
They saved me a lot more money, right, Um. I mean
the thing that's unfortunate to me aboutthis whole thing is, does anybody in

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our political system actually give a damnabout those kids down there? You have
a historic number of unaccompanied minors nowlarger than that anytime during the Trump administration.
We're not hearing nobody talking about kidsand cages and all that kind of
stuff. Now, even though theproblem is worse now, you know what

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I mean, And I mean it'speople think that they're being compassionate. And
I'm pro immigration, I'm not antiimmigration. But people think they're being compassionate.
But what you're really you're subject You'resubjecting people to horrendous conditions. A
lot of people die on the wayto that trip. Some of them have

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been brought in by the drug cartail. Some of them are being raped.
There's human trafficking going on, There'sall sorts of stuff going on. We
cannot And everybody talks about all weneed to address immigration in a humane and
compassionate way, we can't do thatif the border is not secure. The

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only time that the American people willhave an appetite for doing anything about the
Dreamers, about asylum seekers or anythinglike that is if the American people feel
like the border is secure. Youcannot have stuff like this continuing to happen

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year after year, no matter whoseadministration it is. And now it's worse
because they've interpreted Joe Biden's comments aswell. The doors wide open. So's
so let's get on in there.You know, you can't. They talk
about wanting to address to fix theroot causes of this, you can't do
that until you do border security hasto come first before we can do anything

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with the immigration system. Well,I think they don't really understand what the
root cause is. The root causesthis that these people are coming from countries
where they don't feel safe and there'sno financial opportunities. I say financial opportunities,
and a lot of people say,well economics, Well, economics the
study of choices, right, Sothey've made the economic choice because they need

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financial Some sorts of financial stability.They need stability for person and they want
some stability from from a financial perspective. And so America with the the people
who are in charge now asifically sayinghey, you come here, you're gonna
get free healthcare and you're gonna geta chet. So it's like, hey,

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sign me up to cross the border. But one thing that you need
when you cross the border is thatyou need a kid. Now, this
is kind of interesting. There aremany people that are here from we see.
I see this firsthand Venezuela, right, A lot of Venezuelans in Colombia
right now, right, A lotof them are here without papers. Okay,

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I see many of them in thestreets and they're begging or there,
or they're selling trash bags. Youknow what. Every last one of them
has a kid. And what Ifound out is that in many instances they
rent the kid. It's not theirchild, and so they're on the street
begging with a kid that's not theirs. Why because they want people to give

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them more money. Actually, whatare your thoughts, um, I mean,
I think that that's been proven tobe true when they did some DNA
testing or or somehow looked into whethera lot of these people are related to
the children they brought with them.They found that many of them weren't.

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That means, like, where arethey coming by these children? They're I
mean they're kidnapping them in a lotof instances, not all. I mean
some are definitely, you know,and it was a problem that kids are
being separated from their parents. Ithought it was a cruel policy. I
spoke out against it in the beginning, but I mean, we can't ignore
the fact that a lot of thesekids are being trafficked. Some of them

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are boys who are in their teens, who are being recruited by gangs and
drug cartels because they're desperate and it'squick and easy money, and so that
it brings that to the US.It's it's definitely a crisis, and I
agree with Darbio that nothing is goingto get better until they figure out how
to to stop the flow of peoplecoming in illegally. And I'm not against

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legal immigration, just like Darbio said. And you know, it's almost become
like, you know, people wantedto use it as a measure of compassion,
like, oh, look, howmuch we care about these kids from
El Salvador and Honduras because you know, we just want to let them all
in. Their conditions have not changedone bit since Trump was in office there,

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they're still being kept in these detentioncenters. Um in very I think
from from what we've seen very uhstart conditions, nothing has changed. It
is the only changed Yeah, sinceI mean since Biden's been in office.
Um, the fact that Biden hasnot made it more humane. They're handling

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them the exact same way. Andhonestly, this all started under Obama anyway,
so it's not a surprise. Theonly changes the way the media has
covered it. Again, the onlything that has changes the way the media
has covered it, well that thatstarted with Obama. Oh yeah, oh
yeah it did. It started withObama. Yeah, pages and the you

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know, the sleeping well now theyhave them in shipping crates. So it
isn't that wonderful. Yeah, Imean that's an improvement. Yeah. No,
no, no, Darby, letme ask you this. No,
let me ask you this as well. Actually, is the United States the
only country that doesn't have that,that does not protect its borders to Yeah,

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as far as I know, yes, as I would say, the
one of the only countries, oneof the only First world countries who have
the ability to protect their borders andjust choose not to. That's us because
I mean, and for some reason, you know, people believe that it's

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the compassionate thing to do when it'snot. You. You're in a situation
where we're never going to be ableto address the dreamers, people who were
brought here illegally by their parents aschildren through no faults of their own,

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which I do believe should be aseparate case of separate situation. We're not
going to be able to address legitimateseekers of asylum because what's happened now to
people who don't know Folks are goingto the border seeking asylum, whether they
have a legitimate case or not.Because basically what happens in the old system

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that Trump got rid of and nowBiden is bringing back basically, you come
in, you seek asylum, andthey give you a court date and they
even hold you there or they letyou into the country and it's on the
buddy system as to whether you showup for court or not. Well,
the issue is and look, weunderstand that, like like Todd said,
people are coming for better lives,for better financial situations. We understand them,

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and the country generally speaking is compassionate. We let we bring in a
million legal immigrants a year, Soit's not like the country generally speaking is
anti immigrant. I'm not anti immigrant. I want many people who want to

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come here and be Americans, notjust live in America. But if you
want to come here and be anAmerican, I want you to come here.
I believe that it's too easy toget here illegally, and it's too
hard to get here illegally. Wehave that backwards. So I believe that
there's some that that that we needsome reforming immigration system. But you can't
do that if you have fifteen,twenty thirty, forty fifty thousand people crashing

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into the border like you can't.You can't have that. So, no
matter how compassionate people may think they'rebeing, you're holding up the process by
allowing the border to just be widlGo ahead, time. Well, I
see I see that producer you saidwe only had we had less than amenity.
Yeah, I stretched it a littlebit, So go ahead, you

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get. I yield what they say, I yield the balance of my time
to the gentleman in Colombia. Well, I just wanted to say this that
without a coherent policy immigration policy,this ultimately affects and negatively impacts those individuals

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who who have been poorly under whohave been underrepresented in the past. And
what I mean by that is it'sgoing to hurt blacks that if they don't
have a a policy that makes sense. Ultimately, it's going to hurt those
people who are who have been historicallyat the lower end of the financial and
the economic totem poe. And withthat, I yield back my time.

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We were talking about unfeathered immigration andhow it impacts typically it's going to it

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impacts more than others black black Americans. And actually, and I say that
because in many immediate instances, thereare there are many people who are underrepresented
in their low income and unskilled labor. And so when you have a unfettered

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group of people who come here illegally, typically they will take those jobs that
unskilled labor typically has access to,and so that ultimately hurts many of the
constituents who voted for this current administration, black and brown people. Your thoughts,

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well, Yeah, a new polejust came out and I am looking
for it right now. Maybe wecan post it on our Facebook page,
basically stating that the lowest support forillegal immigration is among the working class obviously,
and this has always been true throughoutAmerican history. The more low wage

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laborers without college degrees, everything fromconstruction to working in fast food, the
more people you have willing to workfor very low wages, the more competition
there is for jobs. And alsoit obviously drives down wages, which is
why wages have not gone up naturallydue to the market forces, and why

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they're now agitating to raise the minimumwage fifteen dollars, which I think that,
I mean, that is what theminimum wage should be. And but
we have artificially depressed wages so much. As for black and brown people voting,
I mean, yes they did,but you can tell the Democrats are

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really freaking out that actually higher numbersthan ever of Latinos and black voters actually
wanted for Trump this time. AndI think that it is because of his
Because Trump was a populist, forall his faults and for what a buffoon
he is, we all know whoDonald Trump is. He did finally take
on these issues that other Republicans willnot address because they want that donor money,

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and they want that endorsement from theChamber of Commerce, and they want
the Koch brothers to back them.They do not talk about these issues that
affect the working class. Actually,neither party does. We know that Democrats
have basically become the party of therich and a big tech and still con
Valley and all that. So Imean, yeah, it's I think it's

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going to become an even bigger issueand moving forward in twenty twenty four thoughts.
Yeah, so so, first ofall, I agree that when you
have unfettered illegal immigration, it negativelyimpacts not only blacks, but a negative

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impact impacts blacks, Hispanics, andworking class whites because, like Ashley said,
there are more competition for those jobs. Now, when you add when
you have a situation like that,the reason why you can't do a fifteen
dollars in our minimum wage is becauseof events like this. You can't have

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an increase, a huge increase incompetition for the labor market without the level
of job increase to match it,and then have a fifteen dollars in our
minimum wage on top of that.Because what's going to end up happening is

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you're going the people at the lowkind who are supposed to be helped by
this, are going to end uplosing their jobs. Fast food restaurants are
not going to be paying their minimumwage workers fifteen dollars an hour. I'm
sorry, it's not gonna happen.What's gonna end up happening is that machines
are going to flip your burgers.Machines are going to take your order burgers,

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they're going to hand they're gonna wrapday. Already, there's a restaurant
in California right now that is almostcompletely controlled by robots, and there's only
people like two people there to makesure that the robots work. Now,
let me ask you something. Doyou think those people who are who are
at that fast food place to mannimalrobots? You think they got a college

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degree. I can pretty much almostguarantee that they do. So. Now
as you push in a fifteen dollarsminimal wage plus increase competition in the labor
market without a growth in jobs tomatch, and we don't have a growth
in jobs to match. Why becausewe still have taxes, tax situations that

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are not competitive. We still allowthe China, for example, to be
deemed as an emerging developing market fromthe World Trade Organization, which means there
are so many restrictions that Americans haveto face that China doesn't because they're still
considered a developing market when you andI and all three of us know,

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good damn well, they're not aquote unquote developing market, but they use
that for trade manipulation. And asa result, what does that mean,
Well, that means that you can'thave more manufacturing jobs. You can't have
more of the jobs that you wouldneed to be able to facilitate and increase

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in low skilled in a low skilledworkforce and an increase in a low skilled
workforce. You can't do it.You can't do them both. So you're
not going to be able to getto it. So during a fifteen dollars
in our minimum way, with allof those conditions still being in place,
it's only going to lead to morepeople getting fired. You're you're right,
and and you know, one ofthe things that people don't understand, how

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do I do, professor? Howdo I do? Economics? Professor?
That I do? I mean,I mean that's what happens when you sit
at my feet and you listen.That was very that was very well done.
We're very well said you you youtalk good. Yeah. One of
the things that people fail to realizeis in order for a business to pay

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higher wages, they have to sella commensurate amount of goods and services to
be able to support wages. Theydon't just they just don't pull wages out
of a magic hat. So whatwhat many people on the left want is
for the business to lose their margins, right to have a reduction in their
profits. But what they don't understandis that the reason why people, you

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know, workers and other people thathave four o one ks or that they
have other types of retirement vehicles investin these companies is because these companies grow
and they pay dividend, they payincome right to people that are that are
retired or people that that invest inthem. So there has to be a
requisite increase in sales or in markets. Now, here's what happened COVID.

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COVID hit and then the government wenton they're spending money like drunken sailors.
Okay, so they're spending money thatdoesn't belong to them. There's no such
thing as a government program. It'sa taxpayer funded program. So where do
you think that these taxes supposed tocome from. They're supposed to come from
businesses, They're supposed to come fromindividuals, Right, Individuals work and businesses

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you know, get getting money fromtheir profits and sales. And so what
they're trying to what they're gonna dois they're going to increase taxes, right,
they have to increase taxes. Butthey're going to do all that.
And the markets have not grown becausebecause they've been shut down for such a
long period of time, a lotof businesses went out went out of business.
Right, So, I mean,politicians are not economists. The only

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job of politician has is to winthe next election. They're not our best
and brightest. Joe Biden is anexample of that. Right, They're not
our best and brightest. And whathappens and many times, is that they
do things for political clout, notwhat's in the best interest of the American

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people. With Donald Trump in allhis warts, okay, I mean the
guy, the guy was incredibly challenged, Okay, but what he did for
the country did not harm us.It up until Corona, I mean coronavirus,

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the economy was doing going by gangbusters. The only thing that saved the
Democrats and helped them win this electionwas COVID. Everybody on this, everybody
on this and hearing the sound ofmy voice knows that that if we did
not have COVID, Donald Trump wouldhave Donald Trump could have been in his
basement much like Joe Biden and wonthe election. You'll back the rest of

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my time, Thank you, sir. So I wanted to talk briefly.
You mentioned the COVID build and Ijust want to get my philosophy to this
and put it on the table.And actually I'd love to hear your thoughts
from you two time. So forme, I am not opposed to the

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idea of the COVID build. Andthe reason why I say that is this.
This is we had a pandemic andthe government said stay home, don't
go to work. Right. I'mnot saying that they should not have done
that. I'm not saying that itwas the wrong thing to do. But
what I'm saying is if you're gonnatell people not to work, then it's

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your obligation to cut the check.So I ain't ad at that. My
issue with the COVID bills is thatthey take these bills, and this is
a Washington practice that is as oldas the day is long. They take
these important bills that have things thatthe country needs, and then they loaded

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with a bunch of crap that hasabsolutely nothing to do with the issue at
hand itself, and then when peoplesay something about it, they say,
oh, you don't you don't wantto help the American people. Washington plays
this game all the time, likeall the time. On an almost any

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major piece of legislation that has passedin the last like thirty years, I
can almost guarantee you ninety of ithad some bs in it that had nothing
to do with the problem at hands. And that's the issue that I have
when you look at how people willstill struggling. I'll give you a perfect

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example. Former President Trump told theRepublicans in December, pushed for two thousand
dollar checks to the American people.They decided, no, we're not gonna
do that. We're gonna push forsix hundred dollars checks. And guess what
they ended up losing. They endedup losing the two Senate seats in the
state of Georgia, where the votersin that state said a lot of them

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said that those two thousand dollar checkstwo thousand versus six hundred, was a
big factor in them deciding who theyvoted for. Well, guess what happens.
They got the six hundred dollars checks. Biden them getting office, Biden
said I'm gonna send out two thousanddollars checks on day one they got Biden
got in office. They still ain'tgetting the two thousand dollar checks. So
the Republicans committed political suicide for whatfor nothing. Don't tell me about fiscal

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responsibility that you didn't want to givethe American people two thousand dollar checks in
the name fiscal responsibility, but yousent billions of dollars in the same bill
overseas all some stuff that ain't gotnothing to do with. That's exactly what
people. Yeah, exactly, youcan't don't. You can't have it both

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ways. Don't talk about cyscal responsibilitywhen it comes to money get going to
the American people. But at thesame time, in the same bill,
you're sending more than the two thousanddollars checks would the cost overseas. And
I'm not saying that what the moneythat they spent overseas the stuff that they
shouldn't have did. What I'm sayingis that it ain't have a damn thing
to do with the COVID bills,and that it shouldn't have been in the

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COVID bill. That's that's that's theissue that I had with these big bills.
Not that they did it, becausethey should have done it, but
the issue is that they loaded upwith all of this crap and then say,
look at what we're doing. Goahead, as I agree with you
completely. I think that when MitchMcConnell said, oh, we're you know,

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are not going to settle for socialismas a temporary fix. But they
sent trillions of dollars it just purenonsense to other countries. Um. People
were just very like infuriated by that. They saw right through it. I
mean six hundred dollars. Yeah,I mean it's gonna it helps us some
things, but I mean for mostpeople that's not even a month's rent.

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That's that's not even I mean what. I don't want to say that it
doesn't help, because it does.But they could have done so much more.
And yes, I mean that isexactly why Republicans are losing. That's
what Ann Coulter said right after.That is exactly why they lost those Senate
seats. That they had gotten thattwo thousand dollars out and showed that they

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could do it. Um, theywould have gotten more votes. But a
lot of people said, what's thepoint, why should run out and vote
for these people? They don't youknow, they don't give a if you're
going, if you're gonna caught fiscalresponsibility response, Be fiscally responsible all the
way. Don't talk fiscally response.Don't talk fiscal responsibility to the American people.

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But you're spending You're spending money likedrunken sailors in a strip club overseas.
I yield the balance of my timeto mister Tide Allen to close us
out. Brother talking about the COVIDbill again, Um, it's gonna be
six trillion dollars. Now, ifyou divide the population of the United States,

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which I think is about three hundredfifty million and into six trillion,
it ain't two thousand dollars. It'smuch exactly. So you know, it's
like you know, and and thething is that this is this is the

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amazing thing. Darbio. Hey,I'm gonna give you two thousand dollars And
you're like, oh, okay,cool, But guess who's money it is.
I'm just giving you back your ownmoney. That is true, I
mean, but this is this is, this is how they've pulled the wool
over the American public eyes. I'mgiving you two thousand dollars of your own

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money back, and then the restof this is going overseas. But it's
not money. It's not money thatthat that has any value. It's the
money of the American people. Soif I give you, if I give
you a twenty thou if I giveyou twenty dollars loan and you say,
hey, man, I'm gonna giveyou two dollars back, just go leave

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it right there, I'm like,just leave it right there. How are
you doing on time? Go aheadto close us out? You know?
I mean, I mean, here'sthe thing. The politicians think we're stupid,
and if we continue to vote forthese these people that we have in
power, they're right. We arenot bright. We need to wake up

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discussion here with Ashley and Darvio dYou wanted to make you want to make
a point. I actually made apoint about black and brown, in black
and brown people and in minimum wage. I think you wanted to make a
point regarding Nan as well. Yeah, so, actually I made the point
that there was an increa of blackand Hispanic voters who voted for President Trump

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for former President Trump, which istrue. Um, he got almost twenty
percent of black men um, hegot almost forty percent of Hispanics and a
higher number of black of Hispanic menum, which pretty much equals out to
the highest minority vote for any Republicansince the nineteen sixties when they were actually

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trying to get black Well well,I mean, Biden was right if if
if you know you ain't black,well one out of every three black men
in the Midwest voted for Trump.So that's a lot of black men that
he would consider ain't black. Nevertheless, um, what does black lives matter?
Thing? Well, I wanted torevisit let's let's someone. I wanted

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to revisit this um for a coupleof reasons. One, obviously, you
know the rap against President Trump fromPresident Trump was you know, he's a
racist. It's that the third andpeople looked at that vote, who said,
oh, well, this shows thatpeople didn't believe that that's not necessarily
true. Okay, you have tounderstand the psyche of black men in order

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to understand how they could vote forsomeone who even they may consider to be
a racist, because most black menof a certain age believe that every white
man over the age of seventy yearsof racist anyway, right, And my
lines are, so if you believethat Trump is a racist and you believe

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that Biden is a racist, nowyou're voting based off of policy. It's
like, all right, well they'reboth racist, so so let me look
at their issues. And a lotof a lot of black men did just
that. A lot of black menlooked at the choice and said they both
racist. So let's let's move thataside for a second and let's look at
the policies. That's number one.Number two. Astletely brought up the point

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about Trump being a populist, andI do believe what I've been saying to
people as far as the direction thatthe Republican Party needs to go in,
it is populism with a little lessa hole. That's really because if you
really look at the issues that mostpeople had with Trump, most of the

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time policy never came up. Itwas his personality. People didn't like him
because he was an a hole.So populism, his populist policies, for
the most part, were pretty popular, and it's still pretty popular. Even
when he lost the election, hestill was leading into posed and who would

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best handle the economy. He peoplestill believe that, even when they voted
against him, they believe that hewas the best suited to handle the economy.
So that's to tell the Republican Party, even though some people still don't
get it, that going to amulti cultural populism with the A hole turned

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down a little bit is probably thebest direction to go. But now you
have people in the party that aresaying well, no, you know,
how we broaden the tent, Weneed to go back and start talking about
taxes, And it's like, areyou serious right now? Basically, the

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people who ran the Republican Party intothe ground in the first place now see
it as an opportunity. Well thisis how well, this is how well
I'll reach. You're not reaching.You're not reaching out to black people and
Hispanic people and working class white peopleby talking about stuff that doesn't appeal to
them. There was one article actuallyin the New York Times, and they
were the question was by are somany Hispanics voting Republicans? And one they

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had a quote in there from aHispanic guy who basically said he went to
an army recruiting or something like that, and there was a voter registration and
he asked the person who was doingthe vote registrating, well, what's the
difference between the two parties? Andthe lady who was doing it said,

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well, the Democrats are for thepoor, the Republicans for the rich.
And he said he decided to beto be a Republican because he wanted to
be rich. Right, So,so, you know, people look at
the party from an aspirational perspective,and that's something that the party should lean
more into, not going backwards ifyou think going back to the ways of

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the old party is what's going tohelp you that wasn't working for you in
the first place. Last time Ichecked six percent of black folks voter from
Mitt Romney six. Wow, Ididn't realize it was that low six which
wasn't which actually, Ashley, wasan increase from two thousand and eight when

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John McCain got three. Did hereally well that is a surprise, maybe
his first black president and everything threepercent, Mike, I mean, yeah,
I mean that's a rounding error that'ssurrounding here. Like so, so
going back to that mold of theparty's probably not going to help you very

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much. Well, the thing is, and as you said that Donald Trump
was was a catalyst for a lotof people to hate. But one thing
that he did was he did morefor Black Americans than any other president,
including the first black president that wehad in Barack Obama. But what a

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lot of people don't realize, orif they forgot, is that a lot
of black men, rappers, entertainerslike Donald Trump liked him anyway. Yeah,
right, yeah, So so hehad some level of understanding. I
mean, even if I mean peopledidn't like his show, but when you
look at the people that were onhis show, blacks, black men that

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were on the show, they didquite well. They did quite well on
his show on The Apprentice, right, and they liked Donald Trump. So
a lot of blacks liked Donald Trumpbefore the media said how much of a
racist he was, right, Butthen a lot of policies that he did
funding hms. Historically black colleges universities, right, I mean, they would

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have to go to Congress every yearwith they had with their hat, hat
in their hand. But under DonaldTrump, they don't have to do that
anymore. Right. And the onlything that this current president is doing is
undoing the stuff that President Trump did. He's not he doesn't have any I
mean, think about it. Everybodysaid, oh, we passed, we
passed this, uh, this twothousand dollars you know, or you know,

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two thousand dollars attack bill to getto the COVID built to the American
people. Whose idea was it tobegin with? It wasn't a Biden idea,
It was a Donald Trump idea.That the that the Republicans didn't get
behind, So he doesn't. Sothis current president doesn't have an authentic idea
in his head. And needless tosay, he's calling his vice president president.

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So I don't know, folks,I mean next, Yeah, it's
not the first time he's done that. No, No, not at all.
I mean, and she's the onethat's that's actually talking the heads of
steak so wild. I don't knowif he's grooming her or what's going on.

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And and and here's the thing thatthat really bothers me. Don't say
that you support blacks, right whenat the same time you you're you're basically
tearing down the statue of Martin LutherKing Junior, who said, don't judge
me by the color of my skin, but the content of my character.

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And every point moment that you aredoing is either based upon someone's gender identity
or someone's color. Take down thestatue, you tore down every other statue,
you might as well take down MartinLuther King statue now, because that's
because what you're doing is you're goingagainst his dream. And I have a
problem with that anything. Um,I think actually that's a good transition to

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the next topic you want to talkabout. Yes, let's talk about this,
this whole idea of hey, let'sjust come together. Meanwhile, we're
gonna have separate graduations. We're gonnahave Yeah, there's some college, I
forget which one, but they're gonnahave like six different graduations. I think
that's all based on race. Andyeah, I mean, here's okay,

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hey, we're all we all needto come together, we need to unify.
But at the same time, let'slet's let's segment ourselves and and uh,
you know, by by grace orcolor or gender or whatever it is.
Okay, how would that go.Let's let's talk about this. They
said, well, you know theseare voluntary. Okay, here's what we're
gonna do. Now, we're gonnahave a new policy. If you're white,

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you sit over on this side ofthe restaurant. If you're black,
you sit on this side of therestaurant. However you identify gender wise,
you're gonna sit in a separate,separate part of the restaurant. But then
people say, oh, well,it's voluntary. How does that go that
we're gonna separate. We're gonna separateyou, but it's voluntary. Now,
you and I both know that thatdoesn't work that you cannot have your cake

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and eat it too, that youcan't say, hey, we're gonna be
separate, but we're all gonna beone. How does that work? Last
I knew, you know, Ithought we I thought we discovered a long
time ago that's separate but equal isinherently inequal like wasn't was because because because

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we know, we know that oneside of the restaurant is gonna get gonna
get uh you know, they're gonnaget a different They're gonna get a different
grade of meat, right like weyou know, separate but equal is inherently
and unequal. This, this isan unbelievably stupid idea to me. And

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I'm sorry for whoever I may offend, But this I'm not a separatist,
you know what I mean. Ithink cultural identity is important. Um,
I am proud of my cultural andethnic identity. That doesn't mean that I
think I need a separate college graduation. Like, we're getting to the point

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I'm a separatist. I don't wantto be around stupid people. We're getting
to the point where we have absolutelynothing that brings us together anymore. But
and that is, this is beingwoke. This ain't woke to me,
this is pretty sleepy if yeah,okay, okay, this this is this

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is for my people in East Cleveland. The term is awake. Yeah no,
this is I mean this this isHow does this help? Because and
here's here's the issue that I havewith stuff like this. Okay, as
someone who is a black man whosympathized last I checked um, who sympathizes

(43:39):
with some of the issues that peoplehave been talking about, the issue that
I have with stuff like this isit's so ridiculous and it's so absurd that
when people see the absurdity of stufflike this, it traces them away from
the whole movie. Right, Soas a result, nothing gets done,

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and now you're just talking to yourselvesin an echo chapel. This is why
I don't think it's a good ideato be having separate graduations college graduations.
It's why I don't think it's agood idea to tell every white person in
America that they're racist just by virtueof their birth and there's nothing they can
do about it. This is thosethings to me, if you are really

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committed to the cause of justice andequality, those things are not helpful.
That's not helpful because all it doesis it alienates people, and it chases
people away who would otherwise be onyour side. It was a saying that
I learned a long time ago.Do not make an enemy out of an

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ally, and I think that iswhat happens in a lot of these cases.
People say, well, yeah,I'm gonna gast police brutality, but
what is this crap? Right?People say, oh, yeah, I'm
gonna gainst racism, but what thehell is this? I'm gonna geist you
know what I mean? And italienates people and it makes it makes the
cause of justice and equality harder,not easier. Let me ask, Let

(45:07):
me ask this question, and actuallyyou can. You can. You can
be the first one to answer thisquestion, if you will. If a
person disagrees with you, does thatmake them a racist? Now? Like
by definition, no, but that'swhat the left has tried to turn it

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into. Exactly if you disagree withher, if you did, if you
disagree with with a black person,or if you disagree with a woman,
you're you're in trouble. You're introuble. You're gonna be a labeled a
racist or a missigynists or or orsomething that it's very difficult for you to

(45:51):
defend yourself against and and and andand and we talk about justice that's injustice
at it's very and it's very corethat if you don't agree with my ideology,
you're a racist or if you don'tagree with I mean, we're not
gonna be able to speak out againstKamala Harris. Why because she's a black

(46:12):
woman, right And if there wasa hierarchy of victimhood, I'm just saying,
where where would that fall? Thoughts? Oh, lord, you go
to me after that. Uh,you're welcome. My thought. My thoughts

(46:34):
are we have two minutes left,and so I'm going to yield back the
balance of my time out of SouthCarolina. I mean that that is what
they're doing, and they're not doingit because they really believe it. They
know that if you accuse someone ofbeing racist or sexist, that's basically impossible
to disprove. Like it's it's likebeing called a witch. The only way

(46:59):
to put if you're not a witchis to have them to tie you up
and throw you into a lake.And if you drown, then you're not
a witch, but you're also dead. You can't prove to anyone what's going
on in your own head and whatyour motivations are. So if you disagree
with someone like kamal Oh, youjust have a problem with her. She's
a black woman. Um you know, she's a she's a woman of color.

(47:22):
So U to hear her speak outand to see her in such a
position of power, you know thatjust that just agitates your interracist. They
know it's very effective because how canyou can't argue back against that. It's
uh, you can't. You can'tprove a negative, as they always say,

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And that's exactly. It's a it'sa power move. It's a it's
manipulation, is what it is.And I think it's very, very sinister,
and unfortunately it's working for them.I think that there is going to
be a backlash against it eventually.People are gonna if you call everyone a
racist, Like basically the left isturning on their own now. So like

(48:07):
even the most liberal people like DianeFeinstein, as we were talking about during
the break, they want to renamea high school that was named after her
in San Francisco. She's probably oneof the most liberal senators in recent history.
But something she said decades ago offendedthe woke police, so they're going

(48:29):
to rename it. Well, Imean, at some point, if everyone's
a racist, then no one's aracist, Like it'll start not meaning anything.
So I think there will be abacklash, which is also kind of
unfortunate because real racism does exist.So I mean, they're really just exploiting
it for their own purposes. Whenwe come back, I know we have

(48:51):
a few moments, and when wecome back, I want to ask the
question racism versus prejudice, and Ijust want to get your guys thoughts and
that folks were right back. You'relistening to The Todd Allen Show. Hot
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(49:13):
get your podcast today. That's theOutlaws Radio Show, The Todd Allen Show
on the FCB Radio Network. Welcomeback, folk, you listen to the
Todd Allen Show. I think weshould have a segment where someone can listen
in. People can listen in onour conversations at breaks. I would find

(49:39):
that entertaining, but of course wewould have to be Todd Allen after dark.
So yeah, But but I wantto ask this question Ashley, and
I want to want you to chimein as well, Daro. And this
is just my own philosophy. Ithink that words matter, and what has

(50:00):
happened is that the awake culture wecall woke and in the left, I
won't even say that, I won'tsay I will say left. I won't
say liberal because John F. Kennedywould be considered a Republican today, right,
But so so I'll just I'll justsay the left. The idea of

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racism versus prejudice, I think thatthere's been a blurring of the line.
I believe that a racist is aperson who believes that their race is superior
to others, right, But Ialso believe that we all have some level
of prejudice or prejudgment. But Ithink that if you disagree with someone,

(50:45):
they want to say that they wantto If you disagree with someone that's a
different color than you are, Idon't want to say that you're a racist,
or blame it on being racist,or blame it on being having some
sort of an advantage because of thecolor of your skin. I think that
as a culture, as an Americanculture, we have blurred the line and

(51:06):
blurred what words mean to the pointwhere the words just don't have the same
they don't have a real, true, valued, real true meaning anymore.
What are your thoughts, Ashley andDarbyan? Yes, I mean well,
I totally agree that words are losingtheir meaning because people throw them around around

(51:31):
his weapons so often that they startlosing their effects. And people just they
hear it and they say whatever,We've heard this so many times before.
It means nothing. Racist is definitelyone. I agree that all or the
vast majority of people have some formof prejudice. I think it's very and

(51:55):
that's across the board, white,black, anyone, um, you know,
and we all that's something we allhave to work on. But um,
to basically go around as the leftdoes, everyone's racist if they're not
totally on board with your agenda.Everyone realizes what they're doing that it's a
it's a it's a an ace card, it's something they can pull out when

(52:22):
you know they need the upper hand, and so it does start losing its
meaning. As I said in thelast segment, that is really too bad
because there is genuine racism, aswe saw with this horrible shooting that happened
in Atlanta. Um, we're notsure exactly. We know it was racially
motivated, We're not sure exactly whatthe guys thinking was. It's something about

(52:45):
he feels tempted by Asian and itsecs at it, which I don't believe
specks addiction is a real thing.But yes, I mean it was racially
motivated, and like we can weshould be talking about that. Um.
But I mean when everything is calledracist and everyone's a racist, including our

(53:07):
president Joe Biden, his own vicepresident Kamala Harris basically uh two years ago,
if you remember in the debates,basically accused him of being a racist,
it's like it's some at one point, everyone just starts tuning it out.
And I think that's unfortunate, areyou? Um? Yes, So

(53:29):
first, just just for just likea clarity, um, because the police
in Georgia did do a I believeit was a press conference Heather today or
yesterday, UM, that said thatthey don't they believe that it was a
case of that the shooting in Atlantawas a case of this guy being who

(53:49):
was who had went to rehab forsex addition addiction, um, being a
sex addict, and according to himand his twisted, depraved mind, that
the own way that he could stophimself was to kill or shoot um what
he deemed as temptations of his Now, I'm not going to cycle in analyze

(54:13):
the dude, because who the hellwants to get in the mind of that.
But you know, just just forthe just for the same clarity purposes.
According to the police, that's whatthey believe the situation was there.
Having said that, UM, Ido believe that there's a difference between racism
and prejudice. I agree with that. UM, I'm not sure if I

(54:35):
believe it's as pronounced as as Todddoesn't. Maybe I'm just saying that because
Todd talks about this um twice amonth for the last five years. Nevertheless,
with that being said, I dobelieve that there is a difference between
president prejudice and racism. And Ido believe that every person, every being

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on the face of the earth hassome level of prejudice to against someone,
some group, whatever whatever the casemay be. And I think in these
situations, in situations of prejudice versusracism, people can easily point out the

(55:21):
prejudice and others well I'm not likethat. How many times you see people,
you know what I mean, yousee someone that says that, may
look at someone that has a problemwith alcoholism, for example, and say,
oh, look at that person there, an alcoholic. I don't have
to deal with that. Yeah,and then you go home and snort coke
everynow, right, Like it's youcan look at You can look at other

(55:45):
people's issues when you don't have themand say, oh god, I'm not
like that person, but you don'tlook at your own issues. And there's
enough room to go around when itcomes to the prejudice conversation, because everybody
has some level of prejudice against somebody, some group, some political persuasion,

(56:06):
whatever, whatever you want to callit. Everybody has prejudice in some way,
shape or form or another. Youknow, racism is I would largely
largely. I may have a quibblehere and there, but I'm not going
to be like Khalid and spend tenminutes on a on a quibble dispute.
But I largely, I largely agreewith the definite with your definition of racism,

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and I do believe those two aretwo different things. Okay, but
this this kind of leads me intothe idea of cancel culture if if,
if, if you want to cancelanother person because you don't agree with their
values or beliefs, you're really settingyourself up as being over them, as
being better than And it's just likewhen you said, oh, I'm not

(56:53):
that guy. I mean, I'mnot that lady. I'm not that person
because they have this issue of thisproblem them, or I'm going to cancel
doctor SEUs because of a book thathe wrote and I think that that book
is racist, where doctor SEUs wasprobably one of the one of the very
people that were speaking that was speakingout against racism. I mean the books

(57:15):
that he has and to talk aboutthat like the differences of I forget what
the character's name was, but youhad some that had stars and some that
didn't have stars. And the wholepremise was that they're all one. They're
all the same being whether they havestar or not, they're all contribute to
society and they're all the same.But you want to cancel doctor SEUs because

(57:37):
you think that it's racist. It'snot that doctor SEUs has the issue.
You have the issue, but nobodywants to. But you don't want to
look at your own issue. Justlike you said, Darbo, I mean
this is getting beyond bizarre at thisparticular point, that that you would actually
put yourself I mean not talking aboutpeople here, but just in general,

(58:01):
that a person would put themselves aboveother people as they are the arbiter of
understanding what somebody else is thinking orwhat somebody else is doing, and so
that they should be the ones.Hey, I'm going to stop this right
here and now. But you know, just like the scripture says, you
want to point your finger at whatother people and look at the beam,

(58:22):
the the the the speck in yourneighbor's eye, but you're not looking at
the beam in your own eye.You got a whole You got a whole
pole sticking out your Yeah, Imean definitely. And I think a lot
of people that are getting involved inthis or seeing that, like you know,

(58:44):
you're they say people live in glasshouses, shouldn't throw stones a while,
A lot of people that are runningaround trying to get people canceled.
You know, someone digs up anold tweet of theirs and it's like just
as bad or worse. You know, none of us are perfect. And
it I mean with doctor SEUs,yes he did do some racist drawings earlier.

(59:06):
It was like in the nineteen thirties. So the other thing is when
we're evaluating historical images or things thatpeople created, like a hundred years ago,
they have to consider how would theyhave known any better, Like what
what would what would be their informationthat they're getting that said this is wrong?
They usually didn't have any So thefact that he actually came out of

(59:30):
that and changed his ways and becamean anti racist is like a success story.
So to be attacking him and actuallylike nobody should be reading doctor SEUs
now, I mean that's that's likethe opposite of what we should. I
do not like green eggs and him. I do not like them, Sam,
And I am well ahead, goahead, go ahead. I was

(59:54):
gonna wrap it up, go ahead. Yeah, no, I'll just I'll
just say this is briefly, Soif if the things that doctor Sis said
the racist the racist comments that hesaid were made, as Ashley mentioned,
in the nineteen thirties, we're talkingwhat seventy years after the Civil War roughly

(01:00:17):
like this is I mean, yougotta really and it's not to excuse anybody
or give anybody a pass. Ijust want to make that clear, But
you really do have to take intoconsideration the time in which some of these
people live. It's it's very difficultto take our twenty twenty one values today
and retro fit them two people whomay have even been alive when the country

(01:00:45):
or their parents or grandparents were aliveand the country still owned slaves. Yeah,
these are these are the same peoplethat will be running after the ice
cream truck when they hear the jinglefrom the ice cream Man. And we
know that that jingle was a racistgingle very true on that note, be
right back. You're listening to theTodd Allen Show, The Todd Allen Show

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on the FCB Radio Network. Welcomeback, folks, you're listening to the
Todd Allen Show. Now we cometo one of our segments that we really
like you big them. I'll spellit fight d you m M period stupid.
The reason that bad things happened toyou, it's because you're a dumba.

(01:01:35):
Okay, so um, obviously wetalked earlier in the show about the
stimulus check. You guys know what, I think that that the American people
should have got to two thousand dollarschecks from the start. Um. And
not six hundred, you know,in December, and then fourteen hundred three
months later. But nevertheless, Um, there are some people who have not

(01:02:01):
been able to get their stimulus check. You know, it doesn't always hit
at the same time, and youknow, there are some people who are
still waiting. And he normally makespeople upset. I don't know if they
normally do this, though. Accordingto Newsweek, Florida man angry he didn't

(01:02:23):
receive stimulus check through a smoke bomboutside Trump's Marlock, Florida. Minimal a
Florida man upset with former President DonaldTrump's administration, was arrested on Sunday for
throwing a smoke bomb at Marlago,the former president's residents. Stimulus checks started

(01:02:47):
going out over the weekend as partof President Joe Biden's one point nine trillion
dollar relief package, and not receivingone reportedly hurt Paul Rawls, Junior,
at Palm Beach resident While driving bythe former president's home, he threw a
smoke bomb out of the window andlater admitted to it. During a conversation

(01:03:09):
with Palm Beach Detective Christopher Barbara,raw spoke of his financial struggles and disdain
for the former administration because he hadnot he has not received his stimulus check
from the government this weekend, Rawlsreportedly told Barber, so it seems like

(01:03:30):
he doesn't know who the president currentlyis. Newsweek reached out to the public
defender listed for Rawls. Of course, he has a public defendive for comment,
but did not receive a response intime. Publications. As part of
the American Rescue PAN Plan, whichpassed after trump Laugh office, eligible individuals

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with incomes below seventy five thousand dollarsand joint followers with incomes below one hundred
fifty thousand dollars. We're received fourteenhundred dollar payment. Payments started being issued
via direct depositive over the weekend,and millions of Americans are expected to receive
a full or reduced payment over thecoming weeks. A military a military veteran,

(01:04:15):
Rawls also spoke with Barbara about thestruggles he had since being discharged and
told the detective he knew he wasthere because he threw a smoke bomb.
It's all on video. This isthis is what happens when you don't read
right. This is I don't knowthis. There used to be a program

(01:04:35):
called reading as fundamental. We calledit the rift program. This is this
is what happened. This is whathappens when you know, you don't do
your homework, you don't read,you're not up on current events. Um,
I don't know, is was heasleep the past years? I mean,

(01:05:00):
is it is this guy like RipVan Winkle? I mean, what
is what's the like? I don'tknow if he was asleep, but it
just appears to me. And thisis just a shot in the dark that
maybe he was under the influence leavethe weed alone. It's just the thought.

(01:05:25):
But but you know, he's justhe was just following suit. They
want to blame Donald Trump for everything, and so now you can't blame him
that you know that that he doesn'tget his And this is and this is
just an example of of how manyAmericans, not just this one, how
many Americans think that the president controlsso much that he doesn't the things that
he doesn't control. You ain't giveme my chick? Where's my chicken?

(01:05:53):
It does, mister Rowles, norelationship to lou Rose. You are the
big dummy of the week. Congratulations. Yeah, we also we all should
give him the rip Van Winkle Award. Hey, how many you want the
I Ain't Woke Award? How aboutthat? You want to bet that he's

(01:06:15):
definitely not gonna get that stimulus check. Now he's gonna have to play lawyer
fees. Oh he's not. Hegot a public defender. They're just gonna
take it from na take it fromhim. Yeah, yeah right. And
if it was, if it wasthe Obama administration to have the i RS

(01:06:35):
looking into it too. So yeah, money, Oh my goodness, Oh
my gosh. So that is umhow much time we got left on this
one? This is it is timeto go, time to go. Well,
you know what, it's always apleasure. I know that we have

(01:06:56):
uh we we we haven't had anopportunity to chat like you and I I
usually do. I see, youknow on the group chat, you're talking
to Khalid all the time, andI guess you kind of forgotten about about
me. But that's fine, folks. Folks, that's because it takes todd
about three two to two to fivebusiness days to respond to a group tax.

(01:07:17):
Well that's because I'm busy, youknow. I mean, you're you're
a younger statesman in this group,and you used to you know, communicating
with your thombs. Saod night time. My vc I R still blinks twelve

(01:07:43):
Any last words, No, SA, good night time, Good night Todd.
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