Ep. 197 - Social media censorship, extremes controlling the police reform debate, YBD and more

Social media censorship, extremes controlling the police reform debate, YBD and more

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usual. Let's start off with around table. Um. I want to
talk about President Biden, and Ijust think that, uh, he comes

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across as being, you know,an elder statesman, but I believe that
he has a very good way ofmisrepresenting the truth just about every time he
speaks. And I think it's aI think it's a it's a it's a
it's a skill. He's been apolitician for almost a half century, and

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he's very skilled at saying, uh, talking about things that he may not
know a lot about, but hetakes He definitely believes that the American public
has no idea what he's saying.And I think, for the first time
that I that I can recall withhim, a newspaper has basically given him

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four out of five pinocchiosum, whichis stunning. The challenge is that that
that's amazing to me is that themainstream press or the mainstream media has not
called him out on any of thism and so I just don't know if
we should call the mainstream press journalistanymore, because they don't seek out the

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truth. They've become a sounding boardin a sense, to basically continue propaganda.
What are your thoughts? Actually,yeah, absolutely, I mean I
was just reading something. I don'tknow that. If you're familiar with James
o'keeth, he's the one who doesProject Veritas in the undercover videos. He

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has also been banned from Twitter andalso Facebook is stopping people from sharing the
story about the BLM protester or BLMfounder who just went and bought like a
five million dollar mansion in California.So it is total propaganda. They're definitely

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flexing their muscles to help Biden out. And I mean they basically journalists have
come out and said, we don'twe don't believe we should have to be
objective anymore. We have to havea moral mission or moral clarity. So
that's exactly what they're doing. Yourresponse, so, um, the the

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BLM co founder that actually mentioned evenmembers of BLM are questioning where she got
the money from the body's three houses, right, So I think it's absurd
that Facebook and Twitter are punishing peoplefrom sharing that article, and they're punishing
people under the auspices of uh,it could allow people to figure out where

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she lives. They don't. Theydon't have any problem when when conservatives get
docked. But nevertheless, um,I think fundamentally the issue. The issue
is that you have these big techcompanies colluding with big government, and the

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bigger problem is that you don't haveenough conservatives doing something about it. And
part of the reason why you don'tis because a lot of the big tech
companies give money to them. Tothat's something that they don't really talk about,
but a lot of a lot ofRepublicans in Congress have received a lot
of money from the big tech companies. So the end part of the issue

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is that conservatives, some conservatives,not all. Some conservatives confuse corporatism with
capitalists. So when you see thesebig companies operating in a way that is
unhelpful to the American people, youdon't want to do anything about it because

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you believe that that interfering in thefree market system. Corporatism is not the
free market system. Corporatism. Whenyou have the collusion of big big business
with big government, that's corporatism.That's not capitalism, that's not a free
market. So conservatives, even thoughthey're complaining a lot about it, if

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you're if you're going to actually dosomething about it, it's time to actually
put put pen to paper and makethe rubber meet the row. Stop taking
them checks. Stop saying oh,well, we would well, we're we're
against this, but we can't doanything about it because it's a private company.
When a private company is doing thebidding of the government, it's not

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functioning as a private company anyport.So understand the difference between capitalism and corporatism.
Well, and and you you Iwas agreeing with you up until a
point when you said capitalism and freemarket. You lost. And here's what
you're picking your your your nitpicking phrases. Well, the most human beings use

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capitalism and the free market interchangeable.And a lot of people for a thousand
years thought the world was flat.Okay, so let me let me how
we're going to go in a rabbithole in the next three minutes on.
I'm not that's tangential to the point, but contin if you would allow me
to speak, this could have beenover a lot. This, this could
have been painless. Okay, it'snot tayless. Never payless when you go

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down the rabbit hole. But continue. The term capitalism is a socialist concept
and idea that was created by calMarks. Okay, cal Marks and his
trying to describe the free market systemuse the term capitalist. And so when
you have conservative people using the wordcapitalism, they're really they're really talking from

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the socialist platform. Free market simplymeans that people have the ability to make
choices and decisions on their own andgovernment is limited. So when you try
to combine the two. And toyour point, when you combine businesses or
corporations and now they do the biddingof the government, that is socialism.

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That that that's that's that's a formof socialism. So you're you're absolutely right.
What has to happen is that wehave to have limited government, but
we also have to have corporations outof politics. And if that doesn't happen,
this is what we get. Weget the at this particular point,
if you ask a question right,you can be canceled simply for asking a

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question. Right. When we havechildren and our children say hey, and
children start asking a bunch of questions, they're doing that because they're trying to
find, you know, knowledge andinformation. They're trying to grow, they're
trying to have some understanding. What'shappening now is that media, big,
big corporations. They're typically saying,listen, you can't question anything. You

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just simply have to do what thegovernment tells you or what bureaucrats tell you.
Now, here's the problem with withwith with the system that we've now
find ourselves in because uh, youknow, when when when Trump was there,
they didn't like Donald Trump because DonaldTrump didn't listen to anybody, right,
and he was voiceous about it.Joe Biden listens to people, but

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he listens to unelected officials. Helistens to bureaucrats, and so a lot
of his policies or a lot ofthe things that he wants to do,
even saying that that amendments are notyou know, cast in stone, they're
not. They're not I forget theexact word that he used. Um,
you can help me out with that, because I'm on my rant and my
mind went blank with that. Ornot absolute, that's what he said.

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Amendments are not absolute. A lotof the ideas that he's coming up with
are given to him by bureaucrats,which are non elected officials. And so
what happened is what has happened isthat the government has become bigger and more
bureaucratic, and it is basically theideas are coming from those people who are
elected, who are unelected officials,who are basically systematically changing the culture and

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the values and the ideologies of theAmerican population. But once again, here
goes, I've been saying this formonths when it came when it came to
Trump, and this is why conservativesand Republicans lose the argument because Republicans generally
became sucked at communicating. Okay,you have Donald Trump. Where I was

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saying before it didn't and people weretelling me, all it doesn't matter how
he speaks. Yes, it does, because that's what people here. People
don't like that. Even when youlook at polling, when you look at
polling about a lot of his policies, some of his policies were still popular
even when he wasn't even going intothe election. He was down on every

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category except for the economy, sopeople. So that means that people still
thought that Donald Trump would be abetter president for the economy than Joe Biden,
and they voted against it anyway,Which means the way that you communicate
to people, the way that youtalk to people, the way that you
talk about people, it matters,like it or not, whether you accept

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it or not, whether you thinkit's a good thing or a bad thing,
it matters. And part of thereasons why Republicans lose, and we'll
be talking about this a little bitlater on another topic, part of the
reason why they lose is because theysuck at communicating. Yeah, Ashley,
what are your thoughts about Darvio sayingthat Republicans lose because they don't communicate.

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Well, if we're talking about Trump, I think it is very relevant.
I mean, some people love theway Trump municated and they liked that he
was willing to just call people losers. He has since called Mitch McConnell a
stone cold loser, so he's gettingyou know, specific now, But I
think that turned a lot of peopleoff. I say he started losing during

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the first debate against Biden when hecalled Biden stupid and said that Biden should
never talk to him about being smartand kept interrupting. And yes, it
does. I mean, you canstill have some fire and you don't have
to be boring. You don't haveto be a get Bush without just coming
across as as a blowhard and aboy. And I think he did.

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So, yes, how you communicatedoes matter. The question is I mean,
and again if if if someone speakslike Joe Biden and then they get
covered. But then if someone ispassionate about this, I mean, I
don't know. I think communication isimportant, but but how you say something

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is really going to resonate with someand everybody's not going to like the way
that you talk about things. Butyou know, I think we're gonna talk
about it later in the sec inthe segment in the show, I should
say, we're gonna talk about howpeople have to be able to talk to
people and meet them at their culture. And I think that that's important.
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he's on assignment doing doing some researchsomewhere. Don't know where yet, but
we'll find out when he comes back, he'll give a report on the research
that he's been doing. Ashley,Ashley, you wanted to talk about the
abolished the police movement, Let's talkabout that. Um. Yes. So,

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after another black man was shot inMinnesota by the police, it was
allegedly, according to the officer involved, news an accident. She meant to
reach for her taser instead of agun. I don't know how you confuse
it too. Obviously not okay.She has since resigned because she's otherwise going

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to be fired, and obviously they'relooking into what happened. But we all
agree that these type of incidents shouldnot happen, and also that there is
bias in policing, as there iseverywhere in life that needs to be addressed.
But people like Rashida's Leave, whoobviously, as a member of Congress,

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has personal security at all times,including art and security, went on
Twitter to say that this was definitelynot an accident and that all police in
prisons should be abolished. I'd loveto ask her what she wants to do
with Derek Jovin if he's convicted,if we're not going to have any prisons.
But this whole thing is so I'mnot sure if these people are serious

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or if they're just trying to soundlike they're, you know, hip to
the I hate to use the wordwoke again because it's gonna come to cliche,
but I mean, does anyone reallybelieve in the idea of abolishing the
police? As I posted on Facebookyesterday, the only field promoting this idea

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are people who do not worry abouttheir own safety because they have security around
them at all times, either whetherthat's alarms and engaged communities, security guards,
you know, capital police officers.Those are the only people that think
this is a good idea. Surveyskeep showing that people who actually live in

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neighborhoods where they can be victimized bycrime want more police and better police,
and not no police. So Iwas just hoping to get your guys thoughts
on it. I'll let you gopolice first. Oh I'm sorry, darb,
you don't cuss at me like that. So actually is absolutely right,

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particularly on the Poland Polling of AfricanAmericans in particular, like specifically African Americans
show that most African Americans want morepolice in their community, not less.
They just don't want to have toworry about being shot at by the police.
I said on my Facebook page Facebookdot com slash darview by the way,

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that this is a perfect example ofwhy nothing gets done on this issue,
because you have an elected member ofCongress on the one hand, Rashida
to Lee, talking about abolishing thepolice, and then you have Senator John
Kennedy on the other side talking aboutbasically, if you criticize a police that

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means you hate cops in your sidingwith the crackheads, you want the crackheads
to patrol your neighborhood. It's essentiallywhat he said, almost verbatim, And
so both of these positions are soextreme and so unseerious that we can never
have a legitimate conversation about things thatcan actually be done to improve the relationship

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between the police and the community.You can criticize the police without actually hating
the police. And if you criticizepolice actions, that also doesn't necessarily mean
that you want no police to absolutelyridiculous and assinine binary choice that people are

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trying to make. People are tryingto put the average person in the position
of either saying back the blue nomatter who never questioned the police ever,
or saying we should have no police, and I guess we should all just
be patrolled by a bunch of guysand biker shorts in flashlights. I don't

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know, Like, what the hellit's It's just unbelievably ridiculous. Neither one
of these positions are serious, anduntil the country gets serious on addressing this
issue, it's just going to continueto get worse. Well, and I
agree with you. I think thatpoliticians speak with forked tongues. And as

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you said, I mean, theydon't want a wall on the southern border,
but they put up a wall orin Washington, DC offense. You
want to abolish the police, butat the same time, you don't want
to have gun You want to abolishguns. You want gun control. So
wh Who's going to protect who?How are people going to protect themselves?

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Right? It's amazing how we cantalk about privilege. Right, And I'm
not going to say, you know, color privilege or anything like that.
I'm just going to talk about privilege. Those people who are in privileged positions,
they constantly talk about things that reallydo not impact or affect their lives.

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They have private security, they've gotdrivers, they have all these different
things that other people that that thatregular people like you and I don't have.
But yet they want to talk.They want to create policies that don't
impact them, but they impact uson a day to day basis, and
that is very hypocritical. But yetthese are people who are supposed to be
quote unquote public servants, but theonly people that they're really serving is their

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own pocketbook. And I think thatthat is just plane out ridiculous. You
cannot say that you you you area public servant when all you're really doing
is ingratiating yourself and you're basically drinkingat the public truth on a day to
day basis. So how much timewe have here? I'm looking at the

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we have about five minutes. Okay, So um, here's my question.
What what district is shean? Idon't recall. I don't know. Do
you know Ashley? She is inMichigan. I am not sure exactly she's
in the Detroit area. I knowthat, Okay, Um, I want

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to say, do your more area, but I don't want to assume somewhere
in the great in Detroit area.Well that that that makes sense because you
know those people up north, theynorth of Ohio, they have their own
issues right. He meant those peopleas far as in Michigan. Don't take
it any other way. Folks,don't can't sorry to them people as as

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far as Michigan because for those ofyou who don't live in the state of
Ohio where Ohio there's a rivalry betweenOhio and Michigan. That's what he meant,
don't don't cancel them. But Ithink, but but I think we
can give Toledo to Michigan. HuhNo, I'm just kidding. That's a
joke that, Yeah, Toledo usedto belong in Michigan. Yeah, not

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a war over Yeah, we haveo Hioway Michigan paut of war over it.
Right, So yeah, a littleOhio history there. Um. You
know, I just I just thinkthat politicians nowadays, they're they're no longer
statesmen. They just want to havea thirty seconds sound bite, the you
know, thirty seconds of fame tokeep their name in the press, and
the press is basically um being veryamenable to them, to let them,

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to let them get these these ridiculousideologies out there. Um. Through there
there are some by bad police officers, but not every police officer is bad.
So what you want to do isyou want to abolish the police,
the police force, and put allthose people on the unemployment line for what

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because of a few bad police officers. We should get rid of the bad
police officers. Uh, this oneyea. And part of the reason why
you have such a hard time gettingrid of the police of the bad police
officers are the police unions. Butnobody wants to talk about that because the
police unions spent a lot of moneyon people's political campaigns. But I digress.
You can always follow the money.Yes, yep, yep, So

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I mean so, so, whatwould happen if you took corporate money out
of or union money out of politics? How would what would happen? What
do you think would happen? Dariancorporate money, union money or both both?
If you took them both out,you'd see a massive collapse of the

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Republican and Democratic party. Well that'sexactly why special interests, as they call
it, have so much power,and why issues that are popular with the
public do not get any say inwashingtons. They tend to not be very
popular with corporations or with unions.And when those people have the first strings

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and you have to answer to them, you're going to do what they want.
This was in about like twenty twelve, I think, um as I
was going to with with the groupthat I was with, and they were
taking me to different um different electedofficials offices. I kept seeing all of
these groups from for different issues.It was like, you know, this

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group was here for immigration, thisgroup was here about something else, and
this one was here about something else. And they were all just going door
to door, you know, lobbying. So I'm looking at I'm looking at
this and I see all of thesepeople, right, I see all of
these people, and I'm like,first of all, somebody paid for this,

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right, Like somebody paid for allof these people, because I wasn't
really I was more like, youknow, in a group that was having
conversations with elected officials. I wasn't. We weren't like Field. I was
grown. I was an adult,so it wasn't filter. But um like

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these we weren't official, you know, official lobbyists, right, like these
other people were like official lobby Likethis these were group. You could tell
this is what they do. Theyall had matching shirts and all of this
stuff. Right, And so thefirst thing I'm like, yo, like
how much money is somebody spending tofund all of this. The second part

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was, damn if you're a regular, average Joe with no connections or anything
like that, you don't stand achance, not a chance. How do
you cut through all of this?Well, there's a saying that money talks

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and BS runs a marathon. Right, Yeah, so that's that's Unfortunately,
that's the system that we run.And and and I think you know a
lot of people don't like our formerformer president, but that was one of
the reasons that he was different becausehe did he couldn't be bought, he
had his own money. And sowhen you how can you take a person

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this broken riding the subway? Right, he becomes president, he wins a
Nobel he wins a Nobel Peace Prizefor something before he even takes the oath
of office. Right, and thenhe retires eight years later, and he's
living in a gated house. Ijust ask questions, folks. Folks you're

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to folks. You're listening to theTodd Allen Show, Darbo. I want

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to talk about this on this topicbecause it kind of impacted you, um,
this week, and you kind ofgot it from both sides, both
the the liberal community and also theconservative community, which normally which normally happens
to me. But yeah, right, because you're a chameleon, I mean

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you could play both sides of theboth sides of the field. I mean,
you're you're what they call a fivestar player in baseball, right,
you mean you can you can hitfor average, you can run, you
can throw, you can catch.You know, you can do it all
right, So let's talk about yourweek if we can. So. Obviously,

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what was on a lot of people'sminds were um, these these two
police incidents. One and this wasprior to there was another one that happened
recently that I'm not even that familiarwith on all the details, so I
won't talk about that without getting moreof the details. But um, obviously
there was the incident where the womanaccidentally shot and killed the guy in Minnesota.

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And there was the incident that we'rejust now finding out about it a
few months ago. But we're justnow finding out about it because he's suing
where a lieutenant in the Army waspulled over because they couldn't see his his
plates on the car. He justbought even though when the cops approached the

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car you see in the in thebody cab that you can see the plate
right in the back, and theypulled their guns out on them, ordered
them out of the car. Hewas not resisting at all, had his
hands up. Um, he wasextremely professional. I also thought, as
an aside, I also thought howinteresting it was to watch the conduct of

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someone who's a lieutenant in the armyversus the conduct of police officers. We've
talked about this on this show beforea two tide that it just it feels
to me that the military is alittle more professional that I don't know,
maybe they're having maybe them having alittle more training and being a little more

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serious and rigorous. You think Imight have met might have something to do
with it. You think just sayingthere's never there's never been a rap song
called the military you Nevertheless, youhave you have eighteen year olds who are
in country who have greater discipline withwhen the disarmed there, when they can
discharge their firearm than the police.Absolutely no doubt, eighteen year olds with

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that, with more discipline than someforty at the fifty five year olds.
Right, So obviously, you knowthose were issues that had a real huge
impact on me as someone who hasbeen racially profiled by the police, who
have been ordered out of the carseveral times, who's ended up in handcuffs.

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I don't have a criminal record,I barely have parking tickets. So
I know that it's real because Ihave experienced it. So I talked about
it, and and the fact ofthe matter is they told the in Virginia
when the when the lieutenant in thearmy said he had his hands up the
entire time and said he was afraid. One of the cops said, you

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should be. Are you sick?What do you think? Are you thinking
in an action movie or something like? Is this are you pretending to be
dirty? Harry? You know whatI mean? Like, oh, you
should mean? What the hell isthat? And the guy he's in uniform,

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like he's sitting in the car andit's the whole uniform. And they
got pissed because this is what hedid. When they they turned the sirens
on, he moved instead of stoppingright then and there, he went to
a well lit area he was in. He was on a street looked like
a rural area where there wasn't alot of lights. So he was like,

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let me pull over to a welllit area, which that's what they
tell you to do. Now I'mnot if I'm not mistaken. Actually,
I don't know if you remember whenthere was like these dudes that were going
around or some guy that was goingaround pretending to be a cop and had
his own like his own he wasusing that to like pull over women and

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he was sexually assaulting them and rapingthem and stuff like that. What did
they tell those women to do ifthey if they saw flashing lights behind them
but they thought it was suspicious?What did they tell those women to do.
They actually passed a law in Arizona. From what I remember, I
think it was Arizona um that allpeople had a right to drive to somewhere
that was well let a well litarea exactly that you didn't have to pull

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over. I mean, obviously haveto be a reasonable about it, but
no, you don't have to pullover in the middle of nowhere on the
dark road. Absolutely, And I'msure that this guy is a member of
military knows all this, right,when you're talking about a lieutenant. This
is a guy who's been able tobecome a lieutenant in the army, right,
so amazing has a college degree too, very good point, very good

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point. So the fact that theypulled. But you don't help to have
a college degree to be a policeofficer, that is correct. You actually
have to have more more It takesmore training and more credit hours to become
a barber than it does to becomea police officer. But I digress.
So they pulled, they put theypulled their guns out on this dude.

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They pull their guns out on thisdude and was ordering him out of the
car. He was asking them whatdid they pull him over for? They
didn't even tell him what they pulledhim over for, and said they got
him out of the car and puthandcuffs on. Then you have the situation
in Minnesota where you have the copwho in the heat of in the heat
of the moment, pulled out whatshe thought was her taser and it ended

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up being a gun and she shotand killed the dude. Now, I'm
not one of the people who havethe conspiracy theory that she did it on
purpose. After watching the video,I do not believe that she did it
on purpose. Doesn't mean that Idon't think she should still be held accountable.
She shouldn't, but I don't believeshe did it on purpose. But
that also shows me that part ofyour job is to be able to handle

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situations like this under distress. That'spart of your freaking job. If you
can't do that in the heat ofthe moment, in the heat of the
conflict, if you don't know thedifference between your gun and a taser,
you are not qualified to be acrossing guard, let alone a police officer.

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So I went off about it onFacebook and essentially, in a more
condensed version, said basically exactly whatI just said. So I got hit
by someone who is a back theblue no matter who, I don't I
don't know what the police would haveto do in order to get this guy

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to criticize him. It's one ofthose type of people. And I don't
understand there is no perfect person inany profession. How in the world can
agents of the state be looked atas they do nothing wrong. I don't
understand people who consider themselves a conservative, which suspicion of the government is part

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of conservatism, and you don't questionthe agents of the state who have the
power to kill you. So Imade another post saying that essentially like,
don't call yourself a conservative if youthink a mass mandate is infringing upon your
rights, but getting pulled over becauseyou have a a tree air freshener in

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your car isn't, which is literallyone of the reasons why they pulled the
guy over in Minnesota that ended upgetting shot and killed. I'm not joking.
So then when I made that post, I got hit by a liberal
who said, well, this iswhat conservatism is. That conservatism essentially conservatism

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is hatred, hatred of minorities,etc. Etc. So I'm like,
dude, you get it, youget it coming and going. There are
so and this goes back to theto the segment before uh, we're actually
talking about Rashida's leaving and when Ibrought up what she said and what John
Kennedy said and spanned twenty four hours. People are so extreme on both sides

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of these issues that it makes itimpossible to get anything done. I agree
completely, And it's it's really ruiningthis country. There's a I mean,
I don't know how else to putit. It's ruining this country. Only
extremists are getting their way because firstof all, when someone tries to speak

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up with a nuanced point of viewlike Jarbo has or like all three of
us have, you get shut downimmediately. The only people that are feel
confident and are willing to, youknow, make their demands known are the
people that are so extreme. Andit's very much you're with us or against

(37:52):
us type mentality, and it's it'sruining everything. Yeah, you get those
very people that want to be voidboastress on both sides, and they and
they and they try to make ita moral argument, and they try to
make their arguments based on moral grounds, but they trample on the freedoms,

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and they trample on the thoughts andideas of diverse, diverse points of view.
For someone to say, well,that's what conservativism is, that it's
hating. They had to learn thatfrom somewhere, because certainly they had to
learn that from from someone that's ontheir side, that only has one particular
point of view. And then onthe conservative side, it's it's constantly that,

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well, if you don't agree withme, then something's wrong with you.
They're they're both equally disingenuous and intellectuallyvacuous. This country was supposed to
be designed for diversity, and youare supposed to also protect minority viewpoints because
they have because those people have rightsas well. But what happens and many

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instances is that if there's a minorityviewpoint, whether it's a minority viewpoint from
the right or minority viewpoint from theleft, they are shut down. And
that is that's just absolutely horrible,no question. And also, you know,
I think people misunderstand or confuse valuesfor partisanship. So well said,

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so if you're somebody and you area conservative because that you have conservative values
or you have liberal values, thoseare those are the things that you believe
in. Those are different than partisanship. Partisanship makes people stupid because partisanship takes

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what we consider to be values andturns it into a team sport. So,
if you have something that is acore value and you stick to that
core value no matter what side ofdefense, right, if you believe in
limited government, that means you believein limited government, whether you're talking about

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whether you're talking about taxes or you'retalking about the police. The police,
right, you know, you knowwhat I mean. And people, partisanship
makes people hypocrites at the end ofthe day, because you cannot be a
conservative and have un and never everquestioned agents of the state who have the

(40:37):
power to kill you. And alsoyou can't you can't. How can you
call yourself a liberal and you wantto shout down anyone who disagrees with you.
That's not liberal by the day,that is illiberal by definition. So
partisanship turns value, turns of valuesystem into a team sport, and it

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makes everybody stupid. Well said youyou you you you? You did a
good job with that man you youread? Did you talk? Thanks?
Thanks? Yeah, yeah, you'reyou're I'm gonna call I'm gonna call your
mom and thank her, because rightyou know, one of the things that

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people identify with is they talk aboutdiversity, and they want diversity. But
diversity is not just simply black,white, yellow, pink poking out of
future. Diversity is also diversity ofideas, diversity of of of thought.
And you cannot call yourself an openminded person if you shut down people that

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don't think like you. We'll beback. You're listening to The Todd Allen
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Allen Show on the FCB Radio Network. Welcome back, folks, listening to
the Todd Allen Show. Uh darbio. This is UH talking about politics and
culture many instances. I mean,it raises my blood pressure in sometimes because
I'm not I no longer understand theworld in which we live in. And

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and we talk about a lot ofthis stuff off the air, because you
know, if we were to saya lot of this stuff on the air,
who knows who be coming after us? And trying to cancel us.
But that's not to say that we'renot brave, because we just have to
figure out a way which we cansay some things very tactfully and uh and
be able to defend our positions.It's not it's not saying we're not brave,

(42:53):
but it is saying we're not stupid. There's a difference, right,
there's a difference. You know.Um, you know, we don't mind
going into a burning building, butyou know, we want to look for
a door or something that's not burning, right, we'll just run head first

(43:13):
in the fire. So let's let'slet's change things up a little bit.
Um, let's do a non politicalif you know what's give me some non
political topic. Okay, So Idon't know if you all, um are
familiar with this guy. Um,some of the listeners may be. Some
of the listeners may not be.UM. Guy by the name of Derek

(43:35):
Jackson. And Derek Jackson yes,yeah, yeah. Derrek Jackson is a
social media influencer and he's a relationshipexpert, and he was a relationshipship How
do you become a relationship expert?People just either you call yourself a relationship

(43:59):
expert, you give enough peoples adviceand they call you and they deemed you
a relationship expert on one or theother, or you just got you had
a lot of failed relationships expert,possibly because it can make you an expert
on what not to do, whichis very valuable. We just very valuable

(44:19):
skill to have. So so GarrickJackson um the relationship expert. And he
was a guy who was very veryhard on that. I'm not saying that
we don't deserve it sometimes, buthe was. It was too the extreme,
right, like always saying, youknow, a real man doesn't do

(44:44):
this, and a real man doesn'tdo that, and ladies, if this
man is doing this to you,you need to leave him alone, and
and all these sorts of things.And he built his career, built an
entire career out of this. Hehas hundreds of thousands of followers and obviously
the women, and they're all women, definitely women. Right, what this

(45:08):
issue with mister Jackson, Because itrecently came out that mister Jackson got caught
keating on his wife? Did hereally? Yes, he did time,
miss Jackson. So the word,well, I'll put it like this,

(45:29):
We'll we'll go old school. Theletter of the day Kids is h for
hypocrisy. Here you have a guywho has built his entire career, his
entire image on telling women that menain't ish and then you cheating on your

(45:52):
wife. Well, he knows,he's an expert on Sunday one. It
is. You know, It's thesad part about it is, I think
in many ways in relationships today,men and women are really really far apart.

(46:19):
You know, there's a lot ofdistrust between men and women. Women
don't trust men, men don't trustwomen. And then you have a guy
again going back to what's been thetheme of the show essentially is people manipulating,
manipulating folks for their own purposes andagendas. Here you have a guy
who's exploiting that divide between men andwomen and our culture today to make himself

(46:45):
rich and then come to find outhe is a philanderer and a cheater.
So not only sounds like a politicianexactly, he'd be great in Washington,
Whitney. So not only that,but then he him and his wife did
these videos um to kind of addressthe issue. And if you watch the

(47:08):
video, and I'm not I'm notgonna question this woman's agency because I don't
know whether she did this willingly ornot, but they looked like hostage videos
like they He looks incredibly uncomfortable,she looks like she doesn't want to be
there. He's Oh, it mightas well have been like they did it

(47:32):
themselves. They put the camera upand all that he was squeezing the hell
out of her hand like it was. It was uncomfortable to watch because it
looked like she didn't want to bethere. But of course he probably was
like, hey, look like wegotta keep this money going, Like,
yeah, I need you to getup here and tell and tell people that

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I'm not as big of a piecepiece of ass as. I love that
you want that you want that supportpayments, right, So I would love
to First of all, obviously Idon't want to hear your views on this
too, but I personally think weshould start the commentary now that I've kind

(48:19):
of set the table for what we'retalking about here, I would love to
hear Ashley's views on this. First. I don't know who this guy is.
I mean, I do just formemes mostly, I've heard of him.
I don't watch this stuff. UmIt, I guess I can say
it really doesn't surprise me. Um, A lot of people who build themselves

(48:47):
experts and you know, want thisbig following, and actually they're they're the
ideal man. They can tell youhow to live, they can you know,
they're like like the like the idealman. I've had boyfriends who have

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acted like this and who have turnedout to be the biggest scumbags. Are
dated always actually like they're better thanyou know. They're not like the other
guys. They're exactly like the otherguys. And I don't know what it
is. It's a weird psychological thing, obviously. I don't know what drives
people to lecture others on the rightway to conduct themselves and relationships and when

(49:32):
they're like the works to the works, but it seems to be a really
common thing. Your thoughts. Also, if you guys can check the group
chat real quick. We have ashow group chat for those of you don't
know where we share certain things indifferent notes. I just sent a picture
from the video of what I wastalking about in the group chat. Now

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tell me if that woman looks happyor not. I'm going to it now
assually, your mica, Oh,she looks like she would like to shank
him to be honest, and Iwouldn't blame her. I don't know's it
seems to be part of like beinga narcissist and getting off on I'm fooling

(50:23):
people and pretending to be someone you'reclear that you're not and getting away with
this double life. It's really creepy. Yeah, absolutely, And you know
what, um and I want toget your I want to hear what you
think about this. As I've talkedabout this amongst male friends of mine and
I've gotten some women opinion and theyagree with this too. But I think

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in the Derek Jackson situation, andin a lot of these situations that you
see, whether it's celebrities or politiciansor stuff like that, when they have
infidelity issues, there are the womenwill tolerate a lot of mests from some
dudes. There are some women,not every woman, but there are some
women that are even tolerate you cheatingon them. What the average woman will

(51:10):
not tolerate you doing is embarrassing.And when you have cheated on your wife
or your girlfriend in a public mannerwhere everybody gets to see, whether it's
whether it's people in your own likecircle of friends or your neighbors or whatever,

(51:30):
or whether it's just a celebrity andnow the whole country is talking about
you cheating on your wife or cheatingon your girlfriend. Usually, when you
bring that level of embarrassment and shameto a woman, most of the time
she gonna leave your ass. Postof the time. It's because the level

(51:52):
of the level of disrespect. It'sone of the reasons why I don't believe
in cheat, because I think it'sdisloyal and disrespectful, and to do it
in in such a public manner,and you know what's going to get everywhere
because you failed yourself up as arelationship expert. I just I don't think
that there's a nine percent of womenwill never tolerate you embarrassing them in such

(52:17):
a public in such a public mannerlike that. What's your thoughts on that
assum I've honestly, I've never beenin this type of position. I mean,
not since like high school. Butwell, actually no, that's not
true. I didn't find out aboutit so after the fact. But I

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mean once once the person clearly doesn'trespect you anymore and thinks you're just going
to stand by them while you looklike a fool. I mean, yeah,
you either have you either accept thatposition or I think most women at
that point the relationship it's over.They might stay in it for a while

(53:02):
just because it's you know, it'seasier than trying to get worse, but
eventually, you know, it's justlike the Clintons. I mean, do
you ever see those two together,Hillary and Bell? I mean, look,
they love each other. Oh,I mean she she definitely went and
did her own thing and stopped defendinghim, and I mean he's I guess

(53:23):
they're still legally married. But yeah, I think obviously it's the death of
the relationship. I don't know howyou sit back and tolerate that. Yeah.
Absolutely. And the thing that madethis worse is he was on social
media. People, because you knowthe Internet, they have recepeats. He

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was on social media killing women thatbut men to not to look out for.
Wow, he was cheating on hiswife at the same damn time he
was he was given he was droppingthe science U. So you know what's

(54:07):
once once trust has gone, it'sreally hard to gain back, you know,
Just like you know, you reallyhave to be careful what you say,
because once that words put out therein the universe, you can't take
it back in a person. Theycan forgive, but it's very difficult for
them to forget. And so youknow, if if a person has been
talking about you know, relationships andthis, and and you know, part

(54:30):
of part of that whole thing inmy mind is what's the reason he was
doing that? Not just to getthe bag right, but to get the
bag as well right? Because ifif most of his followers are women,
that basically has put him in inin like the alpha male position where he
could just basically pick and choose whateverwoman he wants. That right, very

(54:52):
good? Uh, you know,and anything. Yeah, I mean,
so you know a lot of timesyou gotta talk about the motivation. And
so, just like the Clintons,if you will to use him as an
example, sometimes you have relationships asas a as a political ploy in order
to have a certain type of Look, we know that President Obama did that.

(55:13):
If you read his book or youknow, you you'll know that.
Um, although you know, werespect the relationship that he's in now,
we also know that the relationship thathe had before that was actually he actually
let it go because of you know, the way they looked politically. So
you know it need needless to saythat we have we don't even see our
vice president in that situation. Butanyway, I digress. Um, it

(55:36):
could have been political expediency for himto do that and basically enhance his career,
and he could have been just basicallyfront and so that he could be
in a position where he could justbe the alpha male. So yeah,
he just you know, he throwinga salt on everybody else. See your
wife. And once again for peoplewho have not seen the video and Ashley,

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does his wife look happy in thatdamn video? Um? Yeah,
that they shouldn't not. They shouldhave waited for another picture. Um.
And here's my question too, whydidn't Why does she look like she's in
a prison prison outfit man? Becauseshe probably didn't want to do the damn

(56:21):
thing in the first place. Sweatpants, all right, I'm gonna do it,
but don't ask me to do nothingelse. I ain't dressing up,
I ain't doing right right. Sheprobably had the bags back behind the sofa
when they were doing it. Interestingstory, all right, folks, will

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be right back here. Listening toThe Todd Allen Show. The Todd Allen
Show on the FCB Radio Network.All right, welcome back on it is
time for all of our favorite andprobably our most top segment known as you
Big Dummy, And I think Darbiohas dummy for us. I'll spell it

(57:07):
fight you d you m M periodstupid. The reason that bad things happened
to you, it's because you're aDUMBA. Yes, I do, and
thank you for introducing me. Actuallywe should, we should make that happen
more often. I enjoy you introducingme more than Todd. All right,

(57:30):
um, so, of course,like my brother Khalida Mars says, we
are not picking on Florida, butFlorida has a sch Morgess board of dumb

(57:51):
has a cornucopia of the dumb assery, and so you have very interesting things
that happen in Florida. People dovery very um odd things. And this
seems like a really really Florida thingto do. Now you've heard people.

(58:16):
You know, when you're a kid, you played make believe, you pretend
to be cops and robbers, youdo all those sorts of things you normally
don't do, certain things you normallydon't play pretend. As an adult,
well, this guy decided that hewould impersonate a doctor, and I'll just

(58:37):
read the headlines from Fox thirty fivein Orlando. The headline reads, Florida
man arrested for allegedly impersonating doctor,injecting boat tops while drinking. A Florida
man is charged with impersonating a doctorand alleged injecting botox while drinking last month,

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according to local authorities, The JacksonvilleSheriff's Office said Nelson Turn forty seven
hostess Okay, second, all right, this is the Jacksonville Sheriff's office said
Nelson Turn forty seven hosted a boattoxand bubbles event at Hey Local Business Wow

(59:31):
launched by the investigators. Said hedescribed himself as an oral surgeon on social
media flyers. According to Fox thirty, Turn was allegedly drinking four locals oh
my god when he operated on hisunsuspecting victims. The news station reported that

(59:52):
he charged three hundred and fifty dollarsto inject lips, chins, and cheeks,
and that he allegedly tricked the staffa local spot into thinking he was
a licensed doctor. The sheriff tweetedthat Turn is charged with several crimes,
including practicing medicine without valid medical license. And possessing of legend drugs without a

(01:00:13):
prescription. Legend drugs, that's interesting. Legend drugs are prescription drugs approved by
the US Food and Drug Administration.According to local authorities, turn was released
on bond. A new court datehas not been assigned. Authorities released the
video screenshots, saying it shows Turningallegedly injecting one of the victims, along

(01:00:36):
with his mug shot. Authorities releasedpictures of the flyers bows and a folk
and a video of him injecting ofa victim they believe was part of his
operation. Turns defense attorney told themedia outlet that Turin maintains his innocence.
Now Here is something sad that theyactually have to put in this article.
The American Council on Science and Healthurges people to check a doctor's dentials before

(01:01:00):
undergoing an operation DUH, saying thatdoctors are legally required to display their credentials
in their office. The Council alsosaid doctors should wear the badges in a
manner that can be easily viewed bypatients. It also reminded patients that a
doctor's credentials can be verified with thestate's medical board, but actlet he was

(01:01:28):
not in his office. He wasif you go to the doctor to get
the operation and drinking four logo.Can we I'm so glad you brought that
up. Can we talk about thatfor a second. For people who got
good who don't know what four localis. Four local is essentially drinking flavored

(01:01:51):
gasoline. It's caffeine water like mixedwith like cherry sir up and alcohol.
It's the most disgusting thing. Actually, it was like it was so dangerous
they're actually just trying to specifically banthat because like like it was kool aid.

(01:02:17):
Oh my god. Well if peoplemay not remember this, um,
but I know when I around thetime that I became twenty one, four
locals was very popular in our generation, and this was the original for locals.
The original for a local had hIt was an alcoholic energy drink.

(01:02:39):
So essentially, essentially we were tryingto kill ourselves because you basically take it's
like take it's like taking red Bulland Colt forty five. That's the Locals
originally was. It is probably inmy top two of most disgusting drinks I've

(01:03:02):
ever had. But you and youhad a ton of them, right,
I didn't have a ton of thembecause I wasn't totally stupid, but I
had I had enough, asked me, I'm glad you brought that up because
I wanted to go back to thatbecause I was like four loco. So

(01:03:27):
he's drinking four loco and then he'sinjecting people. I didn't even know that
anyone to legal drinking age. We'restill drinking logo, right. That is
the worst, and that's the worstdrink that you can that you can have
when you're trying to operate on good. So here's my question. It must

(01:03:52):
be very very affordable. You knowwhat. It's been a very long time
since I've had for local. It'sit's one of those those canned alcoholic beverages.
They sound it's like a couple ofbooks, last gas stations. Yeah,
yeah, so so so here here'smy question. If you go to

(01:04:15):
an event and you see a doctordrinking a low budget alcoholic drink like Milwaukee's
Best or whatever, I don't haveto see your credentials. I already know
you can't be Actually I am.I am thirty four years old. I'd

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have to go back to my twentiesto remember the last time I went to
a party that even had for Localin it. I don't think I've ever
been to a party to head forlocal. It was like one of those
I don't even want to admit tosome of the situation. Is that better
involved for logo? But like itisn't. I mean, yeah, I

(01:05:06):
was one of those things. Likewhen I was in college and I was
a senior when it first became popular, it was just like embarrassing to drink
that was like drink right, stealit from gas station. So if you
got the doctor and the doctor's drinkingit, it's probably a sign to leave.
Well yeah, I mean, wereyou gonna roll pennies to be able

(01:05:28):
to buy right? So? Ohmy goodness, it was. It really
just gave It's funny too because itreally just gets because this was like a
millennial drink. So it really justgave me flash bets because it Ashley is
is completely accurate. It is extremelydisgusting, like the one, and you

(01:05:49):
might as well go outside, goto your local gas station, go pay
to go, pay for this fromgas, take the gas and nozzle out
and put in your mouth. Sodid the article talk about how many people
were at this event, this thisbotoxin botoxin. I don't you know what.
Let me go back and look.I don't think it did, but

(01:06:12):
let me look and see. Didit say Let me try to look at
the screen shot here. Uh,it doesn't say how many. But I
am going to send you this picturebecause I mean, this is screen I
want to be the person or theor the person or any of the people

(01:06:33):
that uh that this guy operated on, you know. And and here's the
other question. Here's the other question, because we've we've talked about how disgusting
for local is and how what kindof dun I that's just a bad idea
to operate on anything. You shouldnot operate heavy machinery drinking for local,

(01:06:55):
let alone operating on somebody's face.However, who the hell thought it was
a good idea to let the doctorcut on them seeing them drinking for a
loco? Why did they? Whydid they think that was Hey, that
sounds a great idea. Oh you'redrinking because when it when it said botox

(01:07:17):
and bubbles, that makes you thinklike champagne, right, like wine or
champagne or not? No damn forlocal? Well, why would I mean,
why would you go to an eventlike that? Anyway? If you
haven't surgery, and then I meanI'm looking at looking at the I mean,
this is like a two for one. If this is the only patient
that he had during that night,then we got to include this person too,

(01:07:40):
because I think, I think anybodywe can take a vote, I
think the doctor and would close itlike this. The doctor is a dummy,
obviously, but anybody who allowed thisfood to operate on them, knowing
he was sitting up there drinking fora local is a dummy too. Here
here I agree. Do we allagree on that? Yes? And whoever

(01:08:03):
whoever sponsored this event is well takeus our own Todd. Any last words,
Ashley, I think I've already saidmore than once, check your doctor's
credentials. And if you go totheir office and they're drinking anything, especially

(01:08:24):
about a can of four logo orthat cheap champagne or the gas station vodcast
runs um running from anybody who stilldrinks four local. Absolutely, and folks,

(01:08:45):
we appreciate you listening to the ToddAllen Show, and I just want
to leave you with these words fromthe late great Muhammad Ali. Service to
others is the rent you pay fora room here on earth. Take care
of one another, folks, you'relistening to The Todd Allen Show. B

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