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How are you doing? Living theDream? Living the Dream? And Darbo
Kingpin Morrow King What a good SarahLiving the Dream. Uh, I'm so
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glad to be uh with you guysthis week because a lot has been going
on. Um and I don't know, I think Joe Biden is the new
Nero. He's fiddling while the whileRome burns. But he is so full
of himself. Um. And justsome of the comments that he's made in
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his uh his speech to the tothe to the was it the Joint Session
or that was just yeah, yeah, it was yeah it technically it wasn't
technically the State of the Union,but yeah, it wasn't the yeah,
but it was. It was.It was interesting how uh he started off
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virtual signaling right off the river.Um. He said that he inherited a
nation which is in crisis and it'skind of interesting because we know that he
tries to compare himself to uh presidentof Barack Obama, and he thinks,
in his own mind it some way, some shape he is better or more
accepted. He also said that wehad the worst attack on democracy since the
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Civil War, talking about the runon the Capitol. What does he think
Portland? Was that? An?Oh? Nothing? I mean, they
they act like it didn't exist.I mean, my my issue with what
he said was the worst attack onthe country since the Civil War? Did
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we not? Did we forget aboutnine to eleven or the World Trade Center
attack in nineteen ninety three or PearlHarbor? Yeah, I mean, come
on, man, come on man. He also said, um, this
was the worst economic crisis since theGreat Depression. We just had the worst
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economic crisis in the two thousands,called the Great Procession. What does he
do it? I mean, obviouslythese guys, this guy's not a historian
or his speech writer is not ahistory And that's what and this and this
is what you're not even talking aboutstuff that was like a honey years You're
talking about fifteen twenty years ago hewas at office. Well yeah, well
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this is this is this is whathappens when you're not in school for a
year. Right, I mean,this is this is this is the COVID
brain, you know, the COVIDmind. Here, um he now he's
talking. He was talking about economicrecovery. Now here's what happens. If
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I take the food off of yourtable and say that, you know,
we're doing this because we're doing thisbecause it's for health reason, it's for
it's for public health. And thenI give you a chicken nugget later on,
and then I say, hey,look how I'm feeding you. That's
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crazy because of course, if youif you take, if you take everyone's
ability to create a lifestyle for themselves, and then you slightly open things back
up, and then you're talking aboutall this growth, that's crazy. I
don't I don't understand what what alternateuniverse some of these people live in or
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they've come from. What are yourthoughts about that idea? Askedly, is
that you know we're talking about youknow how how the economy is roaring back
at six percent? But when youwhen you you created the economic crisis by
shutting everything down. But now youwant to come back and say that you're
that you're the great liberated the greathero of the economy. What are your
thoughts about that? Yeah, Imean, first of all, you described
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it perfectly. Second, it's actuallyjust kind of sickening how the media is
just fawning over Biden and and howhe's given us all these vaccines and he's
like saving us from from the Trumpeconomy, and it's like such a lie.
I mean, every time a Democratis in office, any problems are
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explained by, oh, he inheriteda crisis. It was it was the
Republicans fault that came before him.Well, as you said, Joe Biden
has been in government for like fiftyyears. But like, I mean,
that was one thing I definitely agreewith Trump on during the debate when he
said, well, Joe Biden standsup here and tells us, you know,
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oh, when I'm president, Ido this. Well, he was
in the Senate for decades, hewas vice president for eight years. So
I don't I don't see how theycan now turn around three months into his
administration and act like he is savingthe world. And I thought the attack
on democracy comment was very inappropriate becauseI know he qualified with it's an attack
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on democracy, but that's not howmost people are gonna see it, and
I mean, to compare one they'recalling it one six Now to put it
on a level with nine to eleven, they act like that's on level with
nine to eleven and UM and PearlHarbor and all that is just absurd.
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There is no response like that.I mean, it's I agree. I
mean, it's like I'm not I'mnot downplaying the significance of what happened on
January sixth, But to say thatit's anywhere near the level of a nine
to eleven, which changed all ofour lives forever, right, I mean,
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especially if you look at you know, Ashley and I we are both
millennials, and we were coming ofage when that happened. Like our lives
from nine to twelve was completely differentthan it was on nine ten, you
know what I mean, Like itchanged everything forever. So to say that
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the incident, that the riot onJanuary sixth, as bad as it was,
and I'm not downplaying how bad itwas, but to say that it's
on the same level, that it'sanywhere in the stratosphere of a nine to
eleven, is just ridiculous to me. Yeah, I just and I think
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words are important, and and Darby, you've said this upon many occasions that
words are important because you know youyou are a world smith, a wordsmith.
So yeah, man, that's oneof the few comments of actually I'll
take them when I can get them. Yeah, COVID brain Okay. So,
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but the way in which they're usingthese words, and the way in
which the the the brainwashing mechanism thatthat that the Democratic Party uses, they
they they play these things down andthey and they give they don't even ask
tough questions of this president. Andso when this person says we're revitalizing democracy,
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how are you revitalizing democracy when yousay that the the bill that was
passed in Georgia, you call thatworse than Jim Crow and most people have
never read it. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, look, Joe Biden
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has been known for hyperbole. Toput it that's an understatement, to put
it lightly. I mean this,this is what he does. He you
know, made the whole put youback in chains comment and all of that.
I mean it's really unhelpful. Um, because you come in saying that
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you're going to bring the temperature downand then you do things to turn the
temperature up. Um. I justand for the same time you say you
want to unite the country. Youknow they um, I mean, Joe,
let's space it. Joe Biden isa nice guy. I mean I
would I would have, you know, a hot chocolate milk with the guy
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before bed, you know what I'msaying. I mean, I would,
I would do that. He's anice all right. However, I think
one politic one one question, thetoughest question he had so far, as
they said, Joe, don't youthink that if they're systemic racism in America,
since you've been in politics for fiftyyears, shouldn't you be held accountable
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for that? Hmm? Well,I mean he wrote. I saw doctor
Cornell West said the other day thatJoe Biden has blood on his hands.
And I mean he wrote a lotof those laws. He wrote a lot
of those He wrote a lot ofthose laws. Yeah. And and the
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sad thing is that if you wereto put these types of things on social
media, asking these tough questions,you might get banned. Yeah. Yeah,
I mean, but yeah, atthe end of the day, man,
It's the unfortunate thing about it iswhen it comes to issues of race
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particularly, people are more interested inthe issue than in solving the problem.
No, they're not issued Yeah,they're absolutely and they're not interested in solving
the problem exactly. It's it's it'smore they get and I'm talking both sides
here, they get more use ofit as a weapon than to actually solve
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the problem. And the issue thatI have because I see both sides do
it, But the issue that Ihave is the hypocrisy where people on the
left will call out the right fordoing it, which they right do do
it, but then they turn aroundand do the same damn thing and act
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like what are you talking about?It's what do you what do you?
What do you call it? Tide? Throw a stink bomb and hide your
hands? That irks me, Thatirks me like it drives me nuts.
Well, I'm gonna and again,both both sides are are guilty of this.
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They don't want to solve the problemfor two reasons. Number one,
if they solve the problem, therewould be no need for them right And
number two, the Democratic Party wantsto be the party of the poor and
disenfranchise. So if you're no longeror poor and no longer a disenfranchise,
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you have no need for that party. So it's so bureaucracies basically exist to
perpetuate themselves. And this is exactlywhat we have. We have both political
parties that do things and that saythings only to perpetuate themselves and to remain
empower empower. They do not wantto empower the people. They say,
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oh, this is democracy. Butat the same time, okay, and
this is what one thing that hurtsme to say that a black person needs,
or any person needs an idea inwhich to vote, and then you
say that a disenfranchise just brown,poor black and brown people. That's a
line because many poor black and brownpeople, if they are poor, they
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need to an idea in order toget a welfare check. Now, am
I missing something? No? Ithink the issue with the Georgia Law is
it has been so politicized to thepoint where you can't even have a rational
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conversation about it. You can haveissues with Georgia Law. There there can
be things in the Georgia Law thatyou have a problem with. But to
say that it's Jim Crow two pointzero, to say, in other words,
merely saying it's an equivalent to JimCrow is offensive. Well alone,
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saying that it's that it's worse thanJim. I mean, I think,
can I add something? And youknow I'm I'm white, so I do
you know, I always take Iknow that there are issues with the bill,
but um, in general, thisbill is not about black people.
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This bill is not about suppressing theblack vote. It's about the illegal immigrant
vote. It's about allowing non citizensand people who can't get ideas because they're
not supposed to be here. Isabout letting them vote. It has nothing
to do with black people. Imean, um, in some ways,
because I actually did sit down andread the whole bill, it actually uh
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cracks down on voter suppression, makesit easier to report the whole thing about
oh it forbids. Giving water topeople in lines that they all go home
is a complete lie. You canbring your own water people who work.
You can't have recognized h the firstmillions giving people water in line and promising
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them stuff. But you know theLharis water bottle, which is like that
in most states, including ours,partisans Partisans can't give people stuff. Yeah,
but they're trying to play on blackpeople's motions. They know that there
are a lot of elderly black peoplein Georgia who still remember what it was
like under Jim Crow. It's aboutthe illegal immigrant vote. It's about people
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who aren't supposed to be voting forwhatever reason. That's who they want to
vote, and they don't want themto get caught, and that's all they
care about. Yeah, And theissue that I have, and I know
we have a mental left, butthe issue that I have is when you
compare it to a period of timewhere African Americans had dogs sicked on them,
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had fire hoses turned on them,were being glinched, people were blowing
up churches and killing black children.You know what I mean, people getting
shot on the street for registering peopleto vote. To conjure up all of
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that and say that this bill islike that is offensive and what it is
is playing on our trauma, andthat's the thing that bothers me the most.
You can have issues with the Georgialaw. I'm not saying that you
have to love the Georgia Law,but to say that it's Jim Crow two
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to talk about something that I wantto introduce to listening audience, something that
we talked about off air during thebreak and we were talking about a comment,
Dearbia, that you made about thetwo parties. Why don't wet we
start with you repeating what you said. Yeah, so I said, and
I've said this multiple times. Theconundrum that black people find ourselves in when
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it comes to politics is that wehave a choice between two parties, one
that ignores our issues and the otherone that exploits it. And that is
the unfortunate situation, the unfortunate placethat we find ourselves in where you have
one party ignoring you and the otherparty exploiting it. And one of the
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things that I said, I thinkone of the reasons why the Democratic Party
is the one that typically ignores issuesof the Republican Party. The Republican Party.
Yeah, did I say the Democrats? Yes, you did? Okay,
Well, the Democrats are a partyof slavery, so that they believe
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that they know more about black peoplethan anybody else anyway, God um,
oh, God, go ahead.So the Republican Party was the party that
was founded by abolitionists, so theyso historically they have to believe of equality.
But we know that politics that havereared their ugly head. But I
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believe that the original premise of theRepublican Party was equality right, But then
you know, so they weren't necessarilybread to think about individual racial issues because
at that particular time point in time, the issue of slavery and the issue
of race was was was prevalent whenthe when the when the party was no
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longer the bull Loose Party but becamethe Republican Party. That's not the pigs,
the Whigs. I'm sorry, yeah, that's not to excuse their current
behavior because at this particular point,and I'm only saying from experience when I
have been in some of these meetingsas an official and walking into the meetings
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and then feeling as though that Ihave an eye in the middle of my
head because of the way in whichI was treated or ignored. And I
think it comes because they just don'tknow how to talk to black people.
They just don't know how to comeacross as being genuine to black people.
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Because you would be amazed at howthe vernacular changes, how the attitude changes.
They may not want to talk toyou at all. Now, there's
a difference between being a Republican andbeing conservative, because for the most part,
blacks have conservative values. They havethey have values of family, they
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have values of faith, they havevalues of a sense of fairness. So
I don't understand why the Republican Party, for some unknown reason cannot talk to
black people or are afraid to goin areas where black people live in order
to talk to them. Oh Iknow. So, So my thing is
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is this, if we're going tolook at the history of the Republican Party,
I disagree with the beginning assessment thatit's because they see things, you
know, they don't they view thingsin terms of Equaliye, if you look
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historically at the Republican Party, evenafter as as early as Reconstruction, you
had forces in the Republican Party whowere trying to move the party away from
black people. So if you ifyou ever look up the history of the
Republican Party, look up lily whiteRepublicans or the lily White movement and black
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in tans. So basically, historicallythere was a battle in the Republican Party
between the people who were the lilywhites, who wanted the Republican Party to
be a lily white party, whowanted to move away from being the party
of the negro in order to appealto white people in the South. And
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then you had the Black Tans,and again that's why I said the politics
ridis I they had, I wouldagree, right, And then you had
the black in Tans, which werethe African Americans and the white allies in
the party who did not believe theparty should go in that direction. We
had the brown paper bag too.No, that's a totally different Yeah,
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that's a totally different conversation. Ultimately, obviously, the Black and Tans ultimately
lost, especially culminating with nineteen sixtyfour and Barry Goldwater SOT. Part of
the issue that the Republican Party hadhistorically and then had even after that,
you know, up until the seventiesand the eighties and is that a lot
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of their alienation of African Americans wasdone deliberately, was done on purpose,
whether you're talking about the issue betweenthe lily whites and the Black and Tans,
or you're talking about the Southern strategyin the late sixties and early seventies,
which was a thing. Republicans liketo pretend that it wasn't a thing.
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It was a thing. The creatorof it, who ended up becoming
a R and T chairman, admittedthat it was a thing. So we
can't fix stuff until people start acknowledgingthe truth. The Southern strategy was a
thing. Now did the parties switchlike liberals used to say that, Like
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liberals like to say that the party'sflip. It's more complicated than that.
It wasn't. The fact that itwasn't. You can't just say that the
parties quote flip because Democrats were stillwinning elections in the South as late as
the nineties and early two thousands,So you can't just say that the party's
just flipped. It's a little morecomplicated than that. But there was there
was absolutely a strategy that the Republicanshad to deliberately alienate black folks to cater
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to white voters. It's only beenwithin the last ten to fifteen years that
the Republican Party has been like,ah, you know what, that probably
wasn't the best idea. So nowthey recognize, they recognize the issue.
They recognize that they cannot continue tobe a viable party in America without diversifying
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the tent. They understand that.But now you have the issue of going
back to what you said, Ido believe that this part is this part
is accurate. You have people whodon't know how to talk to black folks.
That is true, you also havea section of people. I don't
even believe it's a majority of theRepublican Party, but it's it's it's a
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section that's large enough to make noiseof people who don't want you to appeal
to black folks. The thing thata lot of people have been talking about
with the George Floyd cases, thatpoll that came out that showed fifty something
percent, I forget the exact total, fifty something percent of Republicans agreed with
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the verdict and forty something percent ofRepublicans didn't. And of course the media
was focusing on effective or forty somethingpercent of Republicans didn't agree with the verdict.
To be I'm looking at it like, well, over a majority of
Republicans do. So that means that, okay, well there is some change
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happening because it's not a majority.That there's not a majority that's like Derek
Charvin should go free. And ofcourse people will focus on the on the
forty something percent and not the factthat there's a clear majority of the party
who agree with the vertict. Sodo you have you still have that inner
battle inside the Republican party. Butthe party people who are conservative or center
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riot or lean Republican or vote Republicanor whatever, have to be honest about
the fact that the Republican Party hasgotten themselves into this mess mostly of their
own making, and if they actuallywant to fix it, they have to
put the work in to actually fixit. You're not going to fix sixty
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seventy eighty years of neglect overnight,but at some point you need to start
or the problem is going to continueto get worse and worse. And too
ill in on this and to hiscredit for what anybody want to say about
President Trump, and there was alot of things to say about you,
guys know I've said it on thisshow. He actually did put effort in
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to get to get African American voters. I have not seen a Republican president
or presidential candidate do as much totry to get black voters as he did,
and he got and he increased hispercentages among black men and black women.
Showed that if you actually try totalk to people, you might see
an you might see a different result. And I've never seen a Democrat president
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or a Democratic candidate tried less toget black votes than white it was a
unique situation. I do think weneed to I do think we need to
point that out too. You hada maybe well maybe not your lifetime time,
because the Democratic Party was definitely differentas you were growing up. Yea
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or this is there was still segregate. There were still open segregationists in the
Democratic Party as you were coming ofage. So so it's different. But
I will say, in my lifetimeand asked the lifetime, we've never seen
a Democratic presidential candidate who was asuniquely weak on issues of race as Joe
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Biden and still is. Yeah heis. I mean I forget what the
issue was, but someone posted ameme over the summer that said, uh,
washed them asked Biden about this andhaving respond with some racists. And
I think that's why they put KamalaHarris out front to address the George Floyd
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verdict, because they're afraid of whathe was going to say. So he
was just making follow up comments afterher. The guy. Yes, he's
extremely I mean he took the blackvote totally for granted. I mean he
said, if you don't vote forme, you're not black. I think
it's absolutely true that Republicans ignore blackpeople's issues. Acting like we're just a
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colorblind society now and everyone is equalopportunity and racism is a non issue is
totally foolish. They're also wrong,I mean, and I think that Trump
got a higher percentage of black votersbecause he did talk about issues that that
other Republicans wouldn't touch. I mean, there's a higher percentage of black men
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in jail are on parole, andhe was talking about prison reform and the
First Step Act. And when Republicanstalk and try to listen to black people
and address their special concerns, theydo get response. But I feel like
a lot of Republicans have just completlywritten them off as voters and said we're
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not gonna get it. So whyeven bothered? Yeah, yeah, you're
right. And part of the issuetoo, actually is it shows their own
lack of understanding and their own ignoranceabout black people. Now you've been around
black people, you know how generallymoderate to conservative black people really are in
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real life. Right, And ifyou look at PU research, did the
studies on this pure research polled blackdemocrats. We're not talking about Black Republicans
or Black independence. They pulled Blackdemocrats and only twenty nine percent of Black
Democrats self identify as liberals. Everyoneelse identifies as either moderate or conservative.
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That tells you right there that theissues that the Republican Party has with black
folks, it's not because black peoplejust love free stuff, because they don't
know how to talk to black people. And I here's the here's the thing,
here's the thing that And I thinkmany Republicans or kind of missed the
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boat on black people historically have donebetter when the government is small. Well,
I think I'm sorry now, Ithink this is where the Republicans missed
the boat. They have a goodargument, but their presentation is pissed bull
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yep. Well, and I thinkpart of the issue, part of the
part of the issue is is this, and Kara Davis um our system at
work always talks about this, thatRepublicans do not understand the language of race.
They don't understand how to speak thelanguage of race, and we speak
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the language of race for black people. Race and culture are intertwined with one
another. So so hot sauce inher first that's not the way to talk
to black folk. And she gotand and in fairness she got some criticism
for that, but here's the issue. Republicans are never in the Republicans are
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never in the position to have themoral authority to address stuff like that,
because they do stupid stuff too,and that becomes part of the issue.
Part of the issue is no one'slistening to Republicans when they call Democrats out
on their bigotry, because the Republicansdon't typically don't deal with the issues in
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their own house, so you don'thave a moral authority, and that becomes
and that becomes the issue. Butthe truth of the matter is they both
do it. If we're gonna behonest, why did they both do it?
We black people get used as apolitical football by both parties, all
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Welcome back, folks, to listento the Time Down Show. Ashley.
We wrapped up really quick. Iwant you to just to address,
if you would, what I saidabout being a political football at this particular
point in time as well. Yeah, I don't think that women's issues are
as much of a political football.I think a lot of it has has
turned a race. But again it'sit's the Democrats exploiting people. I mean,
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there I remember, I forget whoit was, but it was one
of those liberal celebrities told a crowdof people at a campaign event. And
this is one of the George Bushis running against John Kerry that Underbush,
rape would become legal. And it'slike, they say such nonsensical things to
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try to play on people's fears,and they're doing it deliberately, Like as
we discussed in the last segment aboutliberals just kind of exploiting the black boat.
I mean, research has shown thatthat self described liberals actually change the
way they talk when they're speaking toblack people. They dumbed down their language.
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They start using less complex ideas andwords. Um. So they know
absolutely, and that's what they thinkthe black people, they think they're and
they think they're gonna fall for ittoo. Um. I think I think
most things with the left is exploitation. Um. I mean with the women's
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you know, with the Women's March, actually, like Trump's gonna you know,
take away the right to vote andwomen are going to die in illegal
abortions. Like none of it happened. Um, it was never a real
threat. It's just baseless hysteria.Yeah. And and what they do is
they they they incite, try tocite emotion, and then when they cite
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emotion, they try to connect andand and this is a classic psychological tool
that they've become very adept at doing. The unfortunate part is that Republicans don't
know how to excite, and thenthey don't know how to connect. And
that disconnection is the thing that ultimatelyhurts black people. I'm not I'm not
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an advocate for and it ultimately hurtsto women as well. I'm not an
advocate for bigger government. I don'tthink that your life improves because government gets
bigger and bigger and Violet, let'stalk about an example. It's almost an
absurd example of how Joe Biden wantsto expand government when it comes to cigarettes.
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Yeah, I think, and Italked about this on social media.
I think this is ridiculous for anumber of reasons that I'll explain in just
a second. But basically, theBiden ministration announced that they are looking to
ban menthol cigarettes, and they're ofcourse using it as a health thing,
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a public safety thing, as faras public health and so on them so
far. So this the issue thatI have with this. And I'm not
a cigarette smoker. I'm an occasionalcigar smoker because that's what bosses do,
but I am not a cigarette smoker. I don't like cigarettes. I've never
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liked cigarettes. The issue that Ihave with this proposed ban on menthol cigarettes
in the name of public health andin the name of what they call health,
health justice or whatever the phrase isnow, is that we are currently,
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at the same time having conversations aboutpolice reform. We are having conversations
about changing the laws to prevent policecuting and killing black people. Well,
in a world where Eric Garner waschoked out, choked to death by the
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police on a from an incident thatwas started by him selling loose cigarettes and
by and in a world where theentire George Floyd incident was started by George
allegedly having a counterfeit twenty dollar billto buy cigarettes. I think it's a
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stupid idea to now band menthol cigarettes. You're gonna have to if you put
in a band that you're gonna haveto enforce that band, and who's going
to enforce that band, law enforcement. You're creating more opportunities for interactions with
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the police. You're creating more situationsthat could potentially go really bad. You're
creating more possibilities for incidents to escalateand for black people to die at the
hands of the police. Because everybodyknows that black smokers buying large smoke menthol
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cigarettes. So when you ban mentholcigarettes, you are directly banning something back
that many black consumers, that cigaretteconsumers use. And here's the issue.
Just because you ban something does notmean that the demand is going to go
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away. As we've seen over theyears, usually it doesn't. So you
banned menthol cigarettes the demand is stillgonna be there. You're gonna have people
selling Lucy's or the street. You'regonna have people selling bootleg cigarettes, and
you're gonna have more incidents with withEric Gardner or George Floyd, and you're
gonna have more more situations. Atthe very same time you're talking about police
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reform, you are causing more problemsby having more things for the police to
do. Can I say black market? Is that racist? If I say
black market, will I have tosay I don't understand the logic of legalizing
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drugs, including heroine in some states, infentinel, which is extremely deadly.
But they're gonna ban cigarettes. Letme looking in my grandparents. My mom's
parents both died from smoking cigarettes.Um, my grandfather is also exposed to
asbestos, but they both smoked heavily, so I understand it. I hate
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cigarettes. I don't smoke. Uh, I don't want to be around it.
But it's not anyone else's fault ifyou get addicted to smoking, and
people have the right, Like ifwe're going to say that people have a
right to smoke, to ruin theirlungs with marijuana, which there's not much
I mean, I can't understand howcigarettes can be so bad for your lungs
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or marijuana smoke campy, I thinkit's all the same thing. Yep,
what is the logic there? AndDarbia's absolutely right, the nanny state,
big government. Anytime you give thepolice and the courts and law enforcement more
opportunities to meddle in people's lives,that black people are going to suffer because
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because of income disparities where they live, they make easier targets. Um And
I, I mean, yeah,it's ridiculous. I don't know what else
to say. It's something I don'tunderstand, right. The thing I don't
understand is this, how can yousay, how can you have an argument
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that says that it's my body,it's my right to choose. At the
same time you want to take awaythe rights of people to choose what they
do with their bodies. That isbizarre. That's that's a bizarre position for
me, right, and and andit can go into a whole lot of
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other things. And you say,well, it's a it's a public health
issue, okay, we we.I don't want I was gonna go and
I was gonna go to another anothertopic. But but but well, let
me let me in defference to myproducer, I won't do let me jump
in here because because because I dowant to say something about uh, the
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direction you were going before you gotsidetracked. Um, the issue to me
when you say, okay, it'sa public health thing. If we're honest,
you could say you could say thatabout anything anything. So shout out.
Shout out to the homie Jeff Charles, who has a new show on
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the Network of Fresh Perspective with JeffCharles. He wrote a satirical article in
Red State saying that the Biden administrationis getting ready to ban fried chicken and
purple drink and that that would begreat for our listeners. So, but
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the point, it's very funny article. I recommend you go read it.
But the point is to show theabsurdity of this. The fact of the
matter is it. Ashley brings upa great point. You at the same
time you have the people who aretrying to ban menthol cigarettes pushing the legalistation
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of hard drugs. What are youdoing? What are you talking about?
And if we're gonna follow trying toa gateway, and if we're gonna follow
the science, let's let's go togo to marijuana. I'm not a marijuana
smoker. I don't like marijuana,never never liked. Marijuana has as much
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cancer causing agents in it as tencigarettes. Marijuana has tar in it.
Marijuana has a lot of the samethings that cigarettes do. Particularly now,
like this is not like remember ofKat Williams did a joke where he said
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he had to tell the weed salesmanwhen he wants weed, he means regular
weed. It's like, I don'twant anything with a nickname, not thriller,
killer, Salmanilla, none of that, right, because the current because
the stuff that they're selling on thestreets, it's not regular weed. It's
not it's not the pot that youthink of from like the sixt Yeah,
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Like it's this is this stuff thathas high THC content in it, some
of it has, some of it'smixed for PCP, like some of it
has. One of the things that'sbeen happening is there's been with the issues
with fentting. All fitting all hasbeen getting mixed in all kinds of drugs,
whether it's we eat a cooke orlike finol has been getting mixed.
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And that's why you've been having alot of people having accidental overdoses and stuff
like that because they're they're getting they'regetting street drugs, not realizing that it
had fitting all in it, youknow what I mean. Like, So,
at the same time, you havepeople pushing and I think and I
think either an Oregon or Washington State, one of them they pushed. They
either pushed to or they already legalizehard drugs. Hard drugs. We're not
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talking about wacky Tobacci. We're talkinghard drugs. And you're gonna ban menthol
cigarettes for public health like this is, and you're talking about police perform at
the same time. That's the issue. I saw somebody say this on Twitter
once, man, and and Iwas like, damn, that's a really
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good point. They said, wespend so much time discussing law enforcement,
but we don't talk about the peoplewho write the laws. Well, the
people that the people who write thelaws are non elected individuals, the bureaucrats.
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They're bureaucrats and and the many,and they're they're they're there to push
your particular agenda. Because trust me, even though they want to ban menthal
cigarettes, there's a profit motive somewherebehind that for somebody. So don't get
it twisted. Don't think that peoplethe politicians want to do a lot of
things because they care for people,right because because they speak with four tons
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and they're very hypocritical. But there'sa profit motive somewhere for somebody for this
band. I mean, let's let'sjust just beyond this. You know,
you know we're living in the worldnow that I just don't understand. This
is a different America. This isa different America than that I grew up
in. And yes, America hasits issues, Don't get me wrong.
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America has its issues. And forthe very for the people to talk about
and rise up and talk about systemicracism. Look to your president who has
been in office for over fifty years, and as we said, no one
of the segments, as Cornell Westsaid, he has blood in his hands
and he's not taking accountability for anyof that. Folks me right back.
You're listening to the Todd Allen Show. Hot topics, celebrity news, in
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depth interviews, and a whole lotmore. It's the Outlaws Radio Show.
Listen on the iHeart Radio app orwherever you get your podcast today. That's
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to the Todd Allen Show, oneof the things that I want to make
clear for our listeners is that eventhough that this is a conservative talk show,
and even though that we do havea very eclectic group, I want
the listeners to know that I,as Professor Kanton Ellen, and very pro
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black. There has been some questionbecause you know, sometimes we say some
conservative stuff and we we we wewe hammer both sides. But I want
people to know that the views thatI have and the things that I say,
they come from a place in myheart for the love of people that
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look like me. I love allpeople, just as God loves all people,
but I am particular for people thatlook like me because we have our
own we have our own issues.But at the end of the day,
one thing I will not stand foris hypocrisy. And what many people do
is, as Darbia said, thatthey play on our emotions and even from
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the standpoint of of when we havewhen there's someone who is it says things
in our best interests. Talking aboutTim Scott, that the people, the
very people they say that they're behindblack issues will ignore him because he had
because he's a because he's a Republican. And then later on when the issue
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that he talks about would solve theproblem and the things he talked about will
solve the problem, they don't wantto talk about it at that time because
they're being very strategic and they don'twant other people to get the credit for
it. With that being said,DARBYA, will you talk about mister Tim
Scott in his response to our Democraticpresident the other night? So I thought
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Tim Scott, who I am afan of m I think he's one of
the best senators in the Senate.He's a decory Booker, He's a decent
person. Everybody, even people whodisagree with him, like Corey Booker,
say that he's a decent person.He's a good he's a good human being.
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I have a lot of respect toTim Scott, and I believe that
he did a very good job onthe rebuttal to the State of Union,
and he said one of the thingsthat he said that caused a lot of
controversy was saying that America was nota racist country. He didn't say racism
didn't exist. He acknowledged his ownexperiences with racism in that speech, and
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people went off of him on Twitter, Uncle Tim was trending Twitter. It
was trending on Twitter for ten hoursbefore Twitter pulled it down. There were
people saying all sorts of racist andhateful things to Tim Scott. But the
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very next day, Kamala Harris,Vice President Harris, was posed that very
same question whether America was a racistcountry, and she said America was not
a racist country. Now, ofcourse, she added qualifiers about having to
deal with our issues and stuff likethat, which Tim Scott essentially said the
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same thing. So for all agentsof purposes, Vice President Harris said the
same thing that Tim Scott said,and you don't hear a thing. And
the issue that I have with thisfundamentally, though, is it's not even
about whether you agree or disagree withTim Scott's assessment that America's racist country.
That's not what I want to getcaught up on because we can kind of
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go down to rabbit hole on that. My issue is this, you cannot
say that you love black people ifyou are going to give white people pass
to say ray this stuff to blackpeople you don't like it. You cannot
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say that you love black people,but you sit there and you let those
white folks, those white progressives,those white liberals who were trashing him,
calling him Uncle Tim, calling himUncle Ruckus, making him the dude from
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Django unchained. Anybody black who satby and allowed them folks to get that
off without checking them. You can'tsay you love black people because you don't,
because at the end of the day, whether you agree with Tim Scott
or not, that is still ablack man. And for for people,
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first of all, for white folksto feel white people calling Tim Scott and
Uncle Tom, who the hell doyou think you are? What position were
you in to even be able tojudge another black man's blackness? Who the
hell are you? Joe Biden?First of all, that sitcho ass back
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have several seats because you are topocket. And any black person that allowed
these white folks to talk about TimScott like that is out of pocket too.
And that's it. That's it.I'm done. It's no different than
the BLM movement that was hijacked bywhites that go into black communities and tear
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down Black communities and then go backto their own community. But they say,
but they're doing something, and we'veseen and we've seen the videos of
of of of those very whites talkingabout blm right in there, and they're
in they're defacing black businesses. Butbut but again, and you had blacks
that were lockstep with them tearing uptheir own community. So you're absolutely right,
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Darby. I mean, it's justI don't I don't know if well,
I'm not gonna go there because againin deference to my producer, I
just don't get it. Because whenwe look at other groups, they're both
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Republican and Democrat. No one particularly, no other group is all one political
party like black like black like theblack group is right, and then those
who are not. Okay, youdon't have to you don't have to agree
with with policies, right. Butat the end of the day, Corey
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Booker and Tim Scott look the sameto many people in America. The only
difference is if they have an Ror a D by their name. You
can have a black person that hasa D by their name and their policies
are absolutely garbage, and people willfollow them, absolutely garbage. That and
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their policies do not help the constituent, they do not help the people that
they look like, but people willfollow them because they have a D.
By their name. And as yousaid, Tim Scott was the one.
He was the one that came upwith the plan, the the the the
the police reform. The police Democratstanked last year by using the filibuster that
they call racist. Now exactly,they did it because they didn't want the
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Republicans to get credit for it.It's not that it's not that they didn't
the issue. It's pure politics becauseTim Scott's bill, because let's let's let's
get this, get this this outreal quick. Because people say, oh,
well, the Democrats objected Tim Scott'sbill because it was inadequate. That's
bs eighty percent of what the Democratsproposed in their bill was in Tim Scott's
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bill. They rejected that bill forpure partisan politics, which goes back to
the point that I made earlier.So part of the problem, and I'm
gonna I'm gonna let you get inon this ass because you've actually read some
of the bills that the House isthat the House is trying to pass.
Part of the problem is that thatthat people people don't do any research for
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themselves. They don't read No,they don't read no, they hear the
media spin actually very opinionated media theway they interpret it, and that's how
issues get propagandaized. Nobody actually goesand reads the bill. So it's I
think he's a huge problem. Yeah, it's um. There was when I
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was growing up Darbo and actually therewas this program called Reading as Fundamental.
We called it RIFF for short.And what happens is that you have politicians
that get up there and and manyof them I don't really believe that they
read their own legislation that they're passing, right, because if you look at
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a lot of these bills that werepassed, and someone in Biden get up
there and he talked about his hisbill that was going to create jobs,
infrastructure, to use Obama's phrase,shovel ready jobs and all that stuff.
Those bills that they passed, andfor the amounts of money that they have
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listed, it's like very very verysmall percentage of those bills go to it
those things that they're talking about inpublic, that there are so much pork
in these bills, but they onlywant to talk about one or two talking
points. It's a thirteen hundred Ifthere's a thirteen hundred page bill, they
only talk about one or two points. But most people, oh, Okay,
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well, yeah, I think thatthat's a good idea, but they
don't go back and they don't andthey don't read it. But as you
say, Darbio in the past,I mean, only the only people that
read that stuff are nerds like us. So how can we fix that?
Um? Well, I don't know. I don't know how you I don't
think you can create more nerds.I think, well, what you're saying
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is ignorance is bliss right. No, I think that the issue that Republicans
have generally speaking, um, theysuck at communicating. Conservatives in general suck
at communicating. So if you can'ttake complex issues and distill them in a
way that people can understand, you'regoing to loose. Because if you're,
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like like I said once before,if you're explaining, you're losing. Like
that's the that's the rule. Becauseand it's not necessarily because but don't read,
even though a lot of people don't, it's partially because people have lives.
They got families and jobs and andall kinds of stuff like these are
complex, complicated issues. People don'thave the time to keep up with all
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this crap. So so that putsit even more so on folks to be
able to explain and distill issues ina way that people can understand. Because
people there's too much. Because theaverage person has regular life going on,
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they have real life stuff. Theydon't have time to follow the stuff.
And and here's my question though,for both of you and I get that
we all have you know, weall have lives and we want to to
to live free, to to raiseour families and in the manner which we
think is deemed necessary. So atwhat point do you think that government got
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out of control that now government wantsto enter every phase of our lives and
people are okay with that. Whendid this? When did this take place?
So I think the issue is government. Government always tries to expand itself,
right like it that is the naturalextension of government. And when you
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have part of the issue is thatgovernment gets involved in things that we don't
really realize that they're getting involved inuntil we really sit and think about it.
So, for example, going backto the cigarette thing, when people
hear it, at first, it'slike, oh, well, yeah,
you know, cigarettes are bad foryour health, like, you know,
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we shouldn't want anybody smoking cigarettes,until you break down, like, yo,
this is going to cause more somebody'sgoing to have to enforce these laws,
and they're going to be law enforcement, and it's going to cause more
bad interactions with police. And youknow, Eric Gardner was killed selling loose
and George Floyd had a faith aflenty dollar bill allegedly to buy to buy
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cigarettes. Like you you know,when you when you break that down,
then people start saying, oh,hold on, wait a minute, that
that doesn't sound so good. Andpart of the issue that Republicans have when
they make the case for limited governmentis they make the case for they don't
make a proper case. So thereare issues that need to be dealt with,
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and sometimes there is a role forgovernment in some of those issues.
The problem is the Republicans typically donot make an accurate, clear argument for
a limited but active government. Alot of times when they make the argument
(01:01:50):
of limited government, they make itas leave me alone, stay over there,
and that that's just not where thethat's not where the average American is.
It's just not the average American isnot a libertarian, you know what
I mean, Like, that's justnot that's not where the country is.
So you have to learn how tomake better arguments you have to learn how
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to make your arguments in a betterway. You have to learn how to
use your philosophy and apply them toreal world issues, and to show people
how your philosophy can positively impact themin a real world way. Republicans are
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really bad at that. Well,let me ask you this, actually,
do you really do you think thatpeople would rather be told what to do
than to make their own choices anddecisions. Well, I would. I
used to say they'd rather be leftalone, But I mean I started to
think, especially with the total COVIDthing, a lot of people I want
(01:02:57):
to be told what to do.They I don't. I don't know.
There's definitely a mentality out there that, you know, everything is someone else's
problem and government needs to step in, but only where you want them to.
You know, they want people tothey want the government's label alone when
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they're smoking their marijuana, but youknow they want their so But I think
Darbio is right. Their Publican Partydoes not know how to talk about limited
government. They are horrible at messaging. I will give them that. No,
most people are not libertarians. That'smy view on it. Yeah,
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I just think that it's it's umit is it has become sad state of
affairs where people seem to be moreconcerned about, um, not being adults
and not making your own decisions,but lying on someone from a totally that
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has no connection to you at allto determine what's in your best interests.
I think that the best person todetermine what's in your best interest is you.
Now, I'm not saying that,you know, be a libertarian to
say, you know, hey,you know, you do whatever you want
to do as long as you knowyou don't gore my eyes. I'm not
saying that at all. What I'msimply saying is that I think that the
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responsibility of raising children should be inthe hands of the parents. I think
that the responsibility of governing your lifeis should be in your in your hands.
Why because it's your life and theycall it, you know, self
esteem and individuality. And I thinkthat those are the very principles that the
country was found in the part.Now again, I think that when especially
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for black people, when the governmentis very large and now you have to
have more interactions with the police,we have seen that in many instances that
does not turn out well. UM, And so I think that The best
way to do that is not todefund the police, but it is to
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to limit your interaction with government,and that that is by having limited government,
I believe. So we'll be rightback. You're listening to The Todd
Ellen Show. The Todd Allen Showon the FCB Radio Network. Welcome back,
folks for listening to the Todd AllenShow. UM, I apologize from
my rent to my producer. UM, he had some interesting remarks, but
(01:05:40):
at this particular point of the show, we want to go to you big
dummy. I'll spell it fight dumperiod stupid. The reason that bad things
happen to you, it's because you'rea dumba. All right, So once
(01:06:03):
again I feel like I have tosay this a lot. We're not picking
on Florida. UM, I thankyou. They provide us with such great
material, So shout out to Florida. You are the real MVP. But
(01:06:28):
UM, so, you know peopleusually try to you. You hear about
people in jail that try to sneakthings into the jail that they shouldn't have,
and you know, stuff like that. That's that's not unheard of.
We've heard that before. But fromthe New York Post, this is a
This is a new one as faras I'm aware of. Florida man accused
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of trying to smuggle drugs into jailusing process sthetic leg. A Florida man
allegedly tried to smuggle drugs into jailusing his prosthetic LEGO reports said. Keith
Adams, thirty seven, is accusedof using the artificial limb to try to
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sneak in a gram of sitting aland some Zanex pills into a Penellas County
jail on Saturday, The Smoking Gunreported, citing police, Adams was taken
to the lock up after an arrestfor allegedly possessing cocaine and resisting arrest earlier
in the night near Largo, TheOutlet reporter. Before being transported, police
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asked him if anything was concealed inhis prosthetic leg, but he said no.
The drugs Adams allegedly hid landed himto additional charges. According to the
report, Keith Adams is the bigdummy of weeks. You have a prosthetic
(01:08:04):
leg, don't that'd be one ofthe first places they look, don't you
think, Captain obvious? I actuallythought it was gonna be worse. Yeah,
obvious. Yeah, let me Igot a fake leg here. Let
(01:08:30):
me put this in here. Askyour thoughts on this. I'm just wondering
if he even needs the prosthetic lagor therefore it would be hilarious if he
didn't even neither, I wouldn't putit fast certain people I don't know.
Well, And if you see this, this guy's picture, I'm going to
(01:08:51):
um. For those of you whowant to see the picture, just google
Florida Man Drugs, New York Postsand you'll see it. But I'm gonna
send this in our group chat soyou can, uh, let me take
a look at it. Take alook at this guy. Let me take
a look at this genius. Thisgenius. Oh yeah, he looks exactly
(01:09:14):
like you think he would. I'mtrying to pull it up now. Let
me see here. Oh yep,yeah, oh my makes all the sense
in the world, doesn't it.Lady and gentlemen, Well, yeah,
(01:09:41):
makes all the sense in the world. It's like I mean, I mean,
you just look at the guy andbe like, Noah, let me
look at that leg. Bro,I'm I'm not gonna believe anything that you
said, you know what I mean. Thank you once again to the State
of Florida had take us home.Thank you, folks for listening to todd
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Ellen Show. And I would liketo close this out by saying from saying
from the Great, the late GreatMuhammad Ali, don't count the days,
Make the days count. You're listeningto the todd Ellen BFCB Radio Network,
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