June 28, 2021 • 51 mins
200th episode, Candace Owens controversy, "You Big Dummy"
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This is the FCB Radio Network.Come of the best personalities, and we're
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welcome to the Todd Allen Show.As I'm getting cussed out by my producer
because I did not hear a cutewelcome. Welcome, I'm your host,
Professor e Con Todd Allen, andI'm in studio remotely with Ashley. Herzog
asked, how are you. I'mgood, I'm enjoying this beautiful day.
Well, greats. That is fantastic, and I would like to say hello
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to our producer, Darbo Kingpin MorrowWest of good Sir, I am doing
breaks. I am in a moodtoday. I want all the smoke and
I got time today, so let'sget it. I'm ready. Well,
usually Ashley, he always says thatI'm going to say things that get him
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in trouble. But today he's gotall the smoke, so that should be
interesting. And folks, if you'rewondering where Khalid is, we are as
well. He should be. Heshould he should make an appearance at some
point before the end of this ofthis fine radio program. That's at some
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point and in one way shape orfashion, Right, Okay, this is
our two hundredth episode. Yeah,And I will say this that I am
so appreciative of you listeners that havebeen following us for these many episodes.
And I'm so appreciative of the peoplethat I have the pleasure and the honor
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of working with. And I alwayssay that in order for an individual to
become laser focused and razor sharp,you have to be around people who are
smarter than you. And I willsay that these two individuals who I am
on the radio with currently are certainlytwo of the brightest people that I've ever
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had the pleasure of knowing. AndI will say three, but he's he's
not here yet, but khalide aswell. I want to I appreciate Cleed
and Cleed and I go way backlike two flats. Um and uh,
I'm I'm, I'm, I'm humbledto to have the honor working with you
guys. Thank you so much.So I just want to say that you
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are absolutely correct and you and youare welcome. I happened two hundred episode
job to uh. This show hasseen a lot, done a lot,
been through a lot, uh,through the ups and downs and everything.
So UM, absolutely, congratulations onyour two hundredth episode and uh, here's
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the two hundred more. Yes,And I also want to thank Ashley personally
for for putting up with our ourantics and shenanigans, and putting up with
uh, with Darvio's bad attitude,and putting up with les attitude. That's
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for sure, man. I wishhe was here to hear that. Yes,
but thank thank you as um.You know, I want to do
a quick I want to do aroundtable. And I say, speaking of
bad attitudes, I want to doa round table and and and two people
in particular. I want to startwith Joe Biden and I kind of want
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to endo Canda someones. Um,but let's start with with with Joe Biden.
Um, once he understands that hewas actually talking to Putin and not
talking to hum Trump. Um,that was that was That was good.
But have you ever as opposed sinceJimmy Carter, I should say, have
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you ever seen a weaker president internationally? I'll start I'll start with you Ashton.
Um. No, I think Bidenoverall is very weak. I mean
I didn't even want to watch thecoverage of his meeting with Prutin because It
just annoys me too to hear lobalsdefend everything if he does. I've taken
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to watching MSNBC and CNN at thegym just to see what they're saying,
and it's all Biden, we cando no wrong everything, you know,
any faults that you might have isbecause he has to clean up after Trump,
and I just know, I thinkhe's very weak. I think he's
the new Jimmy Carter. Yeah,yeah, your thoughts, you know what.
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I want to touch a little bitmore on what Ashley was saying about
the media, because I do thinkit's at a certain point you're doing a
disservice to your audience, Like forgetthe rest of the country. You don't
care about the rest of the country, but you're not even serving your audience
properly when you do this kind ofstuff. Man, anybody who's who's listened
to this show, and it's beenlong time listeners on this show, they
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know that on this show, anybodycan do. We've talked about Trump,
you talked about Biden, We've talkedabout any and everybody can get it,
which is how it's supposed to be. And we talk about each other too,
right, Yeah, But anybody canget it. That's how it's supposed
to be. But when you whenyou present this sycophantic view of what's going
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on with with Biden, it hurtsyour own audience because there's things that are
happening that they're not even being madeaware of. And I think it's shameful.
I think it's shameful behavior by themedia. Instead of just calling balls
and strikes and doing like what wedo, making sure that anybody can get
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it there, they are completely totallywhitewashing coverage and setting narratives. It's just
it's just really bad. Can youcan you say whitewashing now? All right?
Anyway, one of the one ofthe things that I see and and
and for for our listeners. I'mcurrently um in an in another location geographically,
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and so I'm looking from a asa social scientist looking back at the
at the United States, and oneof the things that I've noticed is the
rise in just blatant, unadulterated violencein cities such as Chicago. And yet
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the I don't know if we shouldeven call her the mayor, but the
person who's sitting in an in anoffice of authority basically saying the same tired
UH talking points about gun control whenher city is basically burning to the ground.
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We just saw some people that thatwe're celebrating UH the Puerto Ricans Puerto
Rican Day, and the car runsinto the back of them, and in
long behold, the guy gets shotin the head and the girl gets shot
in neck. For what what isgoing on? And how is Joe Biden
dealing with or what is he possiblygoing to say or do about the increasing
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violence in the United States. Hecannot blame all of this on on white
supremacis because I don't think there's enoughwhite supremacis to go around doing all this
violence. Actually, what are yourthoughts? Um? No? And honestly,
a lot of the violence we sawthis weekend, like a mass shooting
in Oakland, shooting in Chicago,they have not been done by white supremacists.
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We know who the people are they'redoing it, and I mean,
if they know it doesn't fit thenarrative that they're putting out there. I
think it's a couple of things thatare probably going to make this more violent
summer. I do think that somany people being out of work for so
long has played a role in itand just a national sense of frustration and
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the things aren't getting better. Wagesare still very low, the cost of
livings going up. But also Idon't think there's any doubt that a lot
of this anti law enforcement, kindof anti police rhetoric has emboldened some people
and they feel like, you know, that kind of the public sentiment is
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more favorable to them right now,and they're more likely to be seen as
victims of their circumstances and the policeare evil. So I think it is
encouraging some of this violence that we'reseeing your thoughts, Yeah, so there's
a lot. There's a lot atplay when it comes to why we're seeing
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the violence. One thing that oneof the guys from the Fraternal Order Police,
who I don't sight very often becausethey're a lot of times they're not
very honest when it comes to theissues of police misconduct. But one thing
that he said that was absolutely accurate. He said, people are talking about
new gun laws, we're not evenenforcing the ones that we already have the
booked. I believe that that's athat's a big part of it. We
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already know that statistically, the vastmajority of gun crimes are committed by people
who were not legally supposed to havea gun in the first place, whether
they were convicted felons, whether thegun was stolen, whether the serial number
was scratched off, whatever is right. So we already know that most gun
crimes are committed by people who arebreaking the law just by having that gun
in the first place. I thinkthat's part of it. Now, the
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issue with the rhetoric. I dobelieve that Ashley is right in this regard,
but part of it is what drivesme nuts about this debate. And
we talked about this before on thisshow. Right where now you go from
wanting to talk about issues of policebrutality and police mixed conduct, which acts
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absolutely hoppens, there's no doubt aboutthat. But now we go from that
to people on one side of theargument saying abolish the police, and then
you have people on the other side, on the on the far end of
the other argument, saying, well, nothing, this, this doesn't happen.
This is a myth, like Iheard somebody say on Fox the other
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day, which is complete and totalbs. So again it's another example of
the extremes controlling the argument. Theextremes controlling the debate. I do believe
that that has an impact on thestreets. But also I actually made another
point that I don't think people aretalking about enough, and that is the
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after effects of everybody being up withCOVID. We are from from COVID.
From the shutdowns. We already knowthat there have been there have been more
incidents of road rage, There's beenmore incidents of people getting killed on the
highways, accidents and stuff like that. We know that drug use is up,
we know that alcohol abuse while drivingis up. We know that all
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of these things are up as aresult, as a partial result, and
I think it's twofold one. Thereare people who are still either unemployed or
underemployed, who lost their jobs asa result of the shutdowns, who have
not been able to get them backin the government never really did what they
should have done as far as takingcare of the people. They borrowed one
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point four trillion dollars to give theAmerican people fourteen hundred dollars. So I
don't know. I don't know howthat math works. But also, human
beings are not where we are communalcreatures. We're not knick to be shut
off from the rest of the worldfor as long as we were, and
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I do believe there's a there's amental aspect that's being at play as well.
And you know, and I hearwhat you're saying, um I,
and I agree with a lot ofwhat you're saying. But I think that
the people that were that that shouldbe held accountable for the lockdown and for
a lot of this violence and fora lot of this are not being even
talked about. H Faucium being one. I think that because we see new
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information that's coming out and now wesee that those people who support him basically
want to run interference for him.The fact is that he knew a lot
of things, and I think thathe ingratiated himself. It appears that he
ingratiated himself UM in a lot ofthis UH instituting a lot of this these
things. And then those people whoare basically empower UH governors of different states
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UH that were acting in in intheir little dictatorial manner UM. At the
end of the day, I thinkall of this has a contribution to it,
But at some point people still haveto be responsible for their individual actions,
period and for them to not haveconsequences basically has has caused the country
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to go at this particular point whatappears to me to be a tailspin starting
from the lies and the abject thieveryof a lot of things that basically took
place and was a cover up.So, uh, Derby, I know
you want to have a response towhat I said. Yeah, So obviously
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you'd have to be a crazy personto think that there shouldn't be any consequences
for your actions. And there's athere's there's several crazy people out there who
believe that. So, I mean, we're not talking about unicorns here,
but I do believe that the situationis more complex than that. So when
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we look at, for example,if we talk in these if we talk
about crime in these big cities,and it's not just a black cities either.
Portland don't have a lot of blackpeople in it that that don't play
for the Portland trailblazers, and theircrime is extremely high, right, And
they're not they're not conservatives either,No they're not. But there's there's crime
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that has been raising that has beengoing up in some conservative cities as well.
It just so happens that most Republicansdon't run most big cities because Republicans
don't show up in elections in bigcities. But that's another conversation for another
day. Having such a part ofthe issue, you have people, we
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already know that studies show that peoplewho are in violent communities or in violent
neighborhoods have the same characteristics as PTSDvictims. We already know that we never
addressed we never addressed the mental partof this. We never addressed the mental
health part of this at all.Ever, So if we are but if
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we already know that, what doyou think that did you think that made
that better? Or that made thatright? Probably made commissense will say that
having the extended lockdowns, and I'mnot somebody who doesn't believe we should have
did them. I do believe itmight have went a little too long.
But at doing that, you thinkthat exacerbated the situation? Of course it
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did, and it also taking kidsout of school exacerbated the situation because the
crime rate among young people has skyrocket. I wonder why you're telling them for
a lot of kids. And thenwe got to go to break tide.
If you want to pick this backup, what we can you're telling a
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lot of kids who go to schoolto get away from their environments that you
can't go to school, So I'mmusa send you back in your environment all
day. You know what I mean? So I know we gotta get a
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Daro at d the Kingpinn everywhere.That's dt, GK and GPI, and
I would also like to welcome ourwayward guest. Wait, Colleen, how
are you? I am well goingto be back in uh congratulations on two
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hundred, two hundredth episode here atthe Todd Allen Show. How can our
listeners follow you? Well, firstof all, I couldn't have done it
without you all. Well, waita minute, wait a minute, did
they not pay the heat bill inhades or what is going on? Go
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ahead, Colley, colle namor umFacebook and Kale Lamor on Twitter. Yeah,
thank you for that. He wasactually nice that that was That was
pretty good. Thank you. I'mI'm in shock. I don't know where
to go at this point. Soyeah, well, uh w the last
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segment, you said something which wasvery very correct and precise, is that
we give it to people on theleft, we give it to people on
the right, and while a lotof people don't believe it, I think
at this particular point in time,this would be a great opportunity for us
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to talk about some of the infightingor hand fighting that takes place within conservative
radio talk etcetera, etcetera. AtNauseumm okay, yes, this is.
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This is a person who is notan a end of the show. We've
actually mentioned this person before and wecompared this person to a myriad of other
people. But let's talk about therigamarow and the unruffling of feathers that Candice
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Owens is now involved in. UM. And I'm gonna I'm gonna let you
start, and I'm gonna ask Ashleyto to come in because I know that
you are, uh, you're you'rereally with the smoke today. So take
it away, kingmin. All right. So for those of you who are
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not aware, UM, there wasseveral dust ups on social media between Candice
Owens and several prominent of other prominentblack conservatives are very young Pure Davis as
part of the FC be Ready anetwork being one of them. Candice said
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some things about Junie Teenth that alot of people, include myself, had
a problem with, and when peopleresponded in kind, she went off.
So another person that she got intoit with is a woman by the name
of Kim Klayson. He probably aremade aware of her. You probably know
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who she is, if not,she is the one who was running for
Congress in Baltimore, walking the streetsof Baltimore install acts right now. But
also the thing about Kim Kayson,which I've learned, you know, just
through this whole smoke, Kim themoney that she's raised, because basically now
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Candice is accusing Kim of being agrifter, she's accusing Kim of using people's
money for a race that she hadno chatty in, et cetera, et
cetera. Well, I've turned outthat Kim Kimberly actually a lot of that
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money that she raised and did thingsin the community that she was talking about
to help that community, which issomething that blecks it never does or rarely
does. Bless it is Candice owensuh nonprofit organization where she said she is
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going to be leading, leading thelittle darkies out of the Democratic Party to
the Republicans. Now, anybody whoknows people knows that Candice's approach not not
been very not She's not real popular, she's not real popular with the brothers
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just saying no and no. Andin fact, in fact campaign understood that
as well. That's why if younoticed he was nowhere to be found during
the RNC, because the Trump campaignwas actually trying to win black votes and
understood that putting Candyslans there with alienatepeople so and to there, which and
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it's really interesting too because we've talkedabout the browning of the Republican Party.
You talked about how Trump is,how Trump improved his numbers across the board
among minorities, but particularly black people, in particularly black men, where it
got around twenty percent of black men. It's very funny to meet that black
said, and Candy Sowans strives totake credit for that, but I digress.
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I'm not trying to be messing.So, you know, the thing
that's that's real interesting to me iswhen people when when there's tips like this
and people respond, you hear allthat, you see all of these comments
of oh, you should be workingtogether to be unified against the left.
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Just then the third right. Kiamade a very very very good point,
she said, doing on social media. She also said this on her show
Just Listen to Your To Yourself withKara Davis, which you can find on
the FCV Readio network on all podcastsand platforms. But she said, she
said, I find that really interestingbecause you never hear them say that when
it's white conservative versus white concernatives.How many the Conservatives are always fighting with
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each other. That's what conservatives do. So so it's just it's very interesting
to me that when it's black femaleconservative versus black female conservative, it's no,
you need to work together. No, sometimes you have disagreements, and
sometimes those disagreements need to be airedout, and if it's going to be
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for the benefit of what you're tryingto do, sometimes it's not in your
best interest to keep that stuff tothe side. So now Candice has been
on the mission to try to teardown Kim Clayson, and Kim ain't having
it. She's fighting back, andI'm sitting in the back like the Michael
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Jackson Jeff with him eating popcorn.So I find it to be the whole
thing has been very entertaining. Ithink everybody knows my stance on campus arms.
I don't believe that she has beenvery helpful. If you are someone
that believes it's in black people's intereststo diversify their political vote, which I
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do, I don't believe it's Ido not believe it's in the interest of
black people to have all of ourpolitical capital in one party, because it
allows one party to ignore you andallows the other party to exploit. So
I'm firmly believe that I'm not sayingall black people should be Republicans. I'm
not saying all black people should beDemocrats. I'm saying that we need to
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make both parties compete for our votelike every other group does. We're the
only group that gets told that weshould not I have competition for our vote,
which I think is bs. Havingsaid that my views on Canvas are
clear, she's not very helpful inthat cause because she says very outlandish things,
and most of the things she sayshas no love in it at all
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whatsoever. And she's not she can'treally take criticism very well because anytime somebody
pushes back, she tries to destroytheir career. So that's what's happening right
now, and I'm here for it. Ashley your thoughts. I'm with Derby
on this, and I am nota fan of candas Owens. I believe,
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first of all, this is notthe first time she's done something like
this. I believe she is allabout profit. She knows what to say
to basically tell white people who aremaybe not actually racist but want to ignore
racism and hear that it's not aproblem. She tells them what they want
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to hear, and it's lucrative forher. I think that she is disingenuous.
She posted something on Twitter a whileago and a liberal responded by saying,
here you dropped this and including apicture of it KKK hood and she
went ballistic and said that the guyhad threatened her and was like threatening to
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kill her and everyone knows that.No, he never should have said.
It was an idiotic thing to say. But he was basically calling her a
racist, which I do believe aspossible for people of any color to be
racist or anti black. We knowthat people can internalize that kind of thinking.
So he was saying that she wasmaking a racist point. He was
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not threatening her with KKK imagery andshe knew it. I just feel like
she's totally dishonest, and I'm nota fan. Kale. Do you have
any thoughts that you'd like to share? Honestly, I don't. Wow think
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it took us two hundred episodes toget to them. I'm just kidding,
my friend, go ahead. No, I just think it's all just all
of this Twitter stuff personality wars.I think that some people, including Canvas,
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including some mothers, don't have tocomment on everything. Some things you
just should not even comment on,and I think that sometimes gets hurt into
trouble and others just sometimes you justdon't have to comment everything. But I
think also, um, when itgets to the point where people get so
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big and their personality get so bigand their careers get so big, then
you're gonna have all this fighting,this arguing going on between people who were
battling for position. You know,these are two people who basically became sort
of overnight sensations in a way thatcan replace it. You know, just
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a year ago, nobody would knowwho she was, and then she ran
for Congress and then this ad campaignthat she had on online went crazy and
actually at tea Pack about a yearago, I was talking to her assistant,
I don't know a few later,Derby or we were trying to connect
with her and didn't didn't get achance to connect with her. And that
was before this stuff blew up.Oh really so now yeah, yeah,
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yeah, I've talked to her assistantbecause I've been following her on Twitter the
last couple of years and wanted totalk with her, but I couldn't connect
with her. We had a lotof stuff going on that weekend. So
and then I knew I was gonnawasn't gonna get the shot when that ad
Campain came out and it just wentberserk, got millions and millions and millions
of hits where she's walking through theghetto in Baltimore and instilltos, you know
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Instilltos. Yeah, yeah, Yeah. She didn't win her seat, of
course, but she put herself outthere. So I don't think it's helpful
to anybody. It's just a lotof silly stuff. So I don't leak
there. Yeah, I think thatif you want to look at the distinction
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or say, if someone has said, what's the difference between Al Sharpton and
Candice no Ones, what would yousay, darby the audience, I mean
at the end of the day,and this is some people aren't gonna like
this, but I have said thispublicly before and so it is what it
is. Um, I don't reallyand there's I've evidence to prove that that.
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I don't know if everything that shesays is genuine, if she actually
believes a lot of the stuff shesays. There are times where she says
things that are clearly targeting the lowestcommon denominator in our audience. And I
believe that there's no difference between whatshe does or on the right and what
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a lot of black commentators on theleft that we talk about, where you
are basically presenting a message to pimpunsuspecting white people out of their money.
And that really bothers me. Itreally bothers me, because it's it's one
thing, if you're genuine, ifthis is what you actually believe, we
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can we can debate and go backand forthfall day long. But when you
tell people that raycism doesn't exist.She just said this last week is again
when you tell people that racism doesn'texist. But we know she said what
Yeah, she said, yeah,she said she has said racism doesn't exist,
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because I'm here. She also saida variation of the same thing last
week. But when you say that, and we know that you got a
big settlement working with the Connecticut INAACPfrom high school, someone some height,
some white boys saying the day wastreating you to raise the stuff, how
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you can then turn around and say, oh, racism doesn't exist. I
have a hard time believe, likethere are some people who believe that and
we can disagree and argue all day. But I have a hard time believing
that you believe that when I knowthat you had a major lawsuit in Connecticut
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working with the Connecticut NAACP because ofsome racist incidents that happened to you and
to white dudes I was in yourschope. I have a hard time buying
that. I have a hard timebuying that you are against cancel culture when
one of the first things you didwhen you started to become famous was to
create a website designed to adopts peoplewho said things, who said things that
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people didn't like on the Internet.That is the definition of cancel culture.
That's exactly what's going on in socialmedia now, and she created a whole
platform to do. Yet you know, she presents herself as this big defender
of presidential Trump. She was againstTrump at the beginning. So there are
so many different things in her entirebiography that don't match the rhetoric that comes
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out of her mind. And sowhen I see that, that's different than
saying, all right, I justdisagree with you. We have a different
point of view. That's when thatkind of looks like drifting to me.
People may be mad about that.Sorry if you're mad about that, but
that's just that's just half. Actually, would you care to follow Dario's tribe?
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Uh? No, I think thatwas beautiful? Yeah, yeah,
I think you're absolutely right. Dar. I think that the only difference is
the audience. And I think thatCandice, uh, you know, she
certainly makes a living by by sayingum, a dog signaled to certain groups
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of people. And if if herum, if her idea is that she's
actually bringing a lot more blacks tothe Republican Party, I need to see
the numbers because I just don't believeit. Folks, we are right back.
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Welcome back, folks. Now wecome to a very very very special
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part of the show. You bigdummy, I'll spell it fight du m
m stupid. The reason that badthings happened to you, it's because you're
a dumba. Okay, um,I am going to completely admit at the
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at the beginning of this that Iam putty flicted as to whether I should
even call this a dummy or notbecause what they what they did is something
that has brought us so much jotum. You in particular this as we
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we talked about this before, youare going to understand exactly where I'm coming
from when I read it's who who? Who are you? Who? Who
are you referring to? When yousay you kaled kale is you? You
relate to? You relate to?But this is definitely going to touch Kaleede's
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hard. Okay uh from tmz Ikiais under fire after one of its stores
in Atlanta allegedly listed fried chicken andwatermelon as menu items for its employees to
supposedly honor June team. Oh mygoodness. The furniture giant reportedly sent in
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two employees last week alerting them thatquote to honor the perseverance of black Americans
and acknowledge the progress yet to bemade. It was also going to roll
out a special menu. Now here'sthe menu, Okay. The menu includes
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fried chicken, watermelon, mac andcheese potato salad. At the greens and
Kathie oh m Gee story. Whois this? Ikea in Atlanta, Okayanta
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posted this story. I posted thisstory because I posted that. This is
why I am against corporate pandering,because they will almost always look like morons
when they do this, because there'sthey're they're too ignorant. You're being polite
when you say mon here. So, of course, back to the TMZ
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article, and that's where Ikia droppedthe ball big time because the so called
special menu, again for a holidaycommemorating the end of slavery, included fried
chicken, watermelon, and mac andcheese. Some of those items, of
course, perpetuate racial stereotypes. Anemployee who wished to remain anonymous, told
CBS forty six quote, you cannotsay serving on melon called June teeth is
a soul food menu when you don'teven know the history. They used to
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feed slaves watermelon during the slave time. The outrage led to twenty employees calling
off the work. Word that workerswere furious quickly began to spread at the
store, and it ultimately reached thestore manager, who sent out another internal
email apologizing the menu was Ultimately themenu was ultimately altered to include cornbread,
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maso and meat long. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I forgot the corn
and none of us employee replies.He said none of the co workers who
sat down to create the menu wasblack, but we reached out to Ikea
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and the spokesperson refused that, sayingthere were black co workers involved, but
it offered no further details. Thespokesperson added, we value our co workers'
voices and change the menu after receivingreceiving feedback that the foods that were selected
are not reflective of the deeply meaningfultraditional foods historically served as probably meaningful.
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You know, candas owns wasn't onthat committee, got it wrong, and
we sincerely apologize. All right,so obviously, oh corporate corporate candoring is
the big dogs. This is thegreatest of all time. This is this
is the grow greatest of all times. This trumps every person that we've ever
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had from Florida. But here's thething. Here's the thing, though,
I am conflicted because I'm a chicken'sdelicious and watermelon is delicious. I am
conflicted. Now. Now here's apoint that Khalide made and I would love
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after finished this soliloquy, I wouldlove for us to go to college so
he can elaborate on this point.But yes, Kalide is absolutely right.
This is the problem with corporate pandering. It's actually it says a lot in
one thing. Because number one,if I kid is telling the truth and
black people were participants in creating thismenu, then for other black people to
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be offended by that menu, youprobably shouldn't have did it. But on
the other hand, if it wasonly white people that created this menu,
that's worse. But on top ofthat, on top of that, this
is all stuffy because no group ismonolithic. But this is all stuff that
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most black people actually eat. Weeat this stuff. So so the whole
thing like what you said when whenthe person that they quoted was talking about
old when they gave the slaves watermelon, stop it, stop it, stop
it because we've been eating watermelon eversince. Don't nobody care about how we
started eating watermelon. We still eatingwatermelon a day, and we still eating
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watermelon because it's delicious. You arenot going to cancel watermelon. I don't
get the damn what you say.Well, you know what the rule is,
right, but telling the rule cleatelling the rule. The rule is
when it comes from watermelon chicken,we like it, but don't offer it
to its exactly. You know mygrandmother used to do is that she would
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buy it, but she would hideit right, she wouldn't know she was
carrying it from the store. Now, please take a little bit of time,
just a couple of minutes, toelaborate on why when corporations who have
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no real they ain't no ideas inthe hood, they have no real right,
they have no real connection with blackpeople, how come corporate pandering usually
doesn't turn out very well because usuallythe fact that you're out of touch,
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the fact that you are culturally ignorant, you're gonna go to that that stereotypical
place in your brain that you thinkis reality, and you're gonna do something
or say something or print something stupidwhen you haven't answer for black people.
You know, is this a goodidea to have that black person somewhere to
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say hell to the null? Youneed you need to have that hell to
the null black person on staff thedepartment of Hell to the Null. I
need to tell you don't don't don'tdo this, dude, that they need
that woke person right. I believeyou make an excellent point because I tell
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my wife friends this all the time. I tell them, any question you
have about black people, I don'tcare how crazy it sounds to you,
how offensive it may sound to you, ask me, because I would rather
you ask me and I can getyou, get you together, then for
you to go out in the worldand say something stupid to get punched in
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the mid Right, I'm like,don't worry about it, because if I
know you coming from a good place, don't worry about offending me. Whatever
question you have about black people,ask me. Don't go out in the
world and gon't do something stupid becauseyou was too afraid to ask. You
need to ask the question. Hey, you know what we want to We
want to do this menut with Juneteam. Should we put her chicken and
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watermelon on there? Well, youknow they couldn't have. They couldn't not
they couldn't have. I mean,how come they couldn't have watercress and cucumber
sandwiches, you know what I'm saying, And how you know, and being
salad with no taste? You knowwhat I'm saying. And the only thing
they was missing was red cool eggnow I have to ask before we go,
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I have to ask, as Iwant your opinions on this. Okay,
So, because I've heard a lotof white people say, I don't
understand how that became a stereotype.Chicken and watermelon is delicious, right,
And they're right, They're absolutely right. It should not be a stereotype.
Like Dave Chappelle said, if youdon't like fried chicken and watermelon, it's
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something wrong with you, would ain'tsomething wrong with us. But does this
you're thoughts of the story in general, and the fact that we have black
people get stereotyped by the food,does that make any stance to you at
all? Actually, not to injectsomething serious into a humorous segment, but
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I think it's important to note thatfried chicken in the past was back when
people were poor and meat was aluxury. Meat was treated a lot differently
one hundred or two hundred years ago. It was not something that people ate
every day. It was considered kindof like extravagant, and fried chicken was
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actually like a Southern um, likea I don't know, not a delicacy,
but it was considered kind of afancy dish like we would consider lobster
some high end sea through today.And because of their history of being made
to cook for rich white Southerners,black people knew how to prepare it,
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they knew how to cook it,and a lot of poor Southern whites did
not. They not only could notafford it, they did not know how
to make fried chicken. They didn'tknow how to cultivate watermelon. Actually,
one of my teachers in high schoolexplained this to me because she said,
growing up poor in the South,she said she remembers eating stale bread out
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of the box like they did nothave meat. So a lot of the
stereotypes or negativity about black people supposedlyliking fried chicken is literally just resentment on
the one of poor I'm gonna sayit, poor white rednecks being resentful that
Black people were eating while and theyweren't. And it was because Black people
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have been taught how to cook andfarm and things like watermelon. The kool
a. I don't know where thatcame from, but well, I mean
there's nothing, there's absolutely nothing.Obviously chicken. The price of chickens much
lower. Now we have fried food, we have a fast food that serves
things fried, but back in theday when this whole thing started, it
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didn't, but I knew as soonas they made it an official holiday,
I knew Juneteenth was gonna be anopportunity for white people to embarrass themselves.
One of my friends posted. Oneof my friends posted the other day,
white people are gonna start treating Duneteenth like sink on a mile. They're
gonna be showing up to the barsand the sheeties and stuff in more balder
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terms, And he is absolutely right. It's why I didn't say much about
junetoons because I feel like I needto know more about it, but like
they just can't help themselves. It'slike and it's so bringe worthy and no,
you should never like celebrate a holiday, uh for African Americans without any
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input from them. I don't know. It amazing to me at first,
I thought, at first, theonly defense is that he is a Swedish
company, and Swedish people might notunderstand that this whole thing has a negative
connotation because of racial stereotype. It'slike they might have liked looked on the
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Internet and thought, oh, it'slike saying that Google, what do black
people eat? Right? But theydon't be if you're not from this culture,
you don't really understand it. Butapparently this is a local thing in
Atlanta. Like they can go andask a black person. There are funny
of black people in Atlanta, andit's just ridiculous topically. So next,
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we don't see a bunch of whitepeople walking around and up kids say clothes.
Well, they already already do itat the Capitol. But Nancy Lucie
needs somebody to help her get offher knees touching that comment fole. Now
it is time to wrap. AndI don't mean rap news white people,
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Khale. Do you have any lastwords? No, I'm just listen,
um. And this is I saythis with a bit of sarcasm, but
actually it's so it's true. I'mnot looking forward to more celebrations every year
which black people, you know,can shoot each other. So we got
June teeth to add other absolutely anyfound words white people just you know,
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I think twice about Juneteenth, andI know that a lot of these white
people just had no capacity for embarrassmenton this front. But really, like
it's not that hard, it's notbeing completely toned off and just idiotic.
I knew it was coming any finalcomment, Yeah, if you're making a
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menu to celebrate a Black holiday,you should probably check with black people first
and make sure that that menu isokay. And I will say that,
if you're going to make a menuon a Black holiday and you apologize,
please don't include the corn bread afteryou, folks. That's different. Todd
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welcome to the Todd Allen Show.As I'm getting cussed out by my producer
because I did not hear a cutewelcome. Welcome, I'm your host,
Professor e Con Todd Allen, andI'm in studio remotely with Ashley. Herzog
asked, how are you. I'mgood, I'm enjoying this beautiful day.
Well, greats. That is fantastic, and I would like to say hello
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to our producer, Darbo Kingpin MorrowWest of good Sir, I am doing
breaks. I am in a moodtoday. I want all the smoke and
I got time today, so let'sget it. I'm ready. Well,
usually Ashley, he always says thatI'm going to say things that get him
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in trouble. But today he's gotall the smoke, so that should be
interesting. And folks, if you'rewondering where Khalid is, we are as
well. He should be. Heshould he should make an appearance at some
point before the end of this ofthis fine radio program. That's at some
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point and in one way shape orfashion, Right, Okay, this is
our two hundredth episode. Yeah,And I will say this that I am
so appreciative of you listeners that havebeen following us for these many episodes.
And I'm so appreciative of the peoplethat I have the pleasure and the honor
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of working with. And I alwayssay that in order for an individual to
become laser focused and razor sharp,you have to be around people who are
smarter than you. And I willsay that these two individuals who I am
on the radio with currently are certainlytwo of the brightest people that I've ever
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had the pleasure of knowing. AndI will say three, but he's he's
not here yet, but khalide aswell. I want to I appreciate Cleed
and Cleed and I go way backlike two flats. Um and uh,
I'm I'm, I'm, I'm humbledto to have the honor working with you
guys. Thank you so much.So I just want to say that you
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are absolutely correct and you and youare welcome. I happened two hundred episode
job to uh. This show hasseen a lot, done a lot,
been through a lot, uh,through the ups and downs and everything.
So UM, absolutely, congratulations onyour two hundredth episode and uh, here's
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the two hundred more. Yes,And I also want to thank Ashley personally
for for putting up with our ourantics and shenanigans, and putting up with
uh, with Darvio's bad attitude,and putting up with les attitude. That's
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for sure, man. I wishhe was here to hear that. Yes,
but thank thank you as um.You know, I want to do
a quick I want to do aroundtable. And I say, speaking of
bad attitudes, I want to doa round table and and and two people
in particular. I want to startwith Joe Biden and I kind of want
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to endo Canda someones. Um,but let's start with with with Joe Biden.
Um, once he understands that hewas actually talking to Putin and not
talking to hum Trump. Um,that was that was That was good.
But have you ever as opposed sinceJimmy Carter, I should say, have
(04:40):
you ever seen a weaker president internationally? I'll start I'll start with you Ashton.
Um. No, I think Bidenoverall is very weak. I mean
I didn't even want to watch thecoverage of his meeting with Prutin because It
just annoys me too to hear lobalsdefend everything if he does. I've taken
(05:03):
to watching MSNBC and CNN at thegym just to see what they're saying,
and it's all Biden, we cando no wrong everything, you know,
any faults that you might have isbecause he has to clean up after Trump,
and I just know, I thinkhe's very weak. I think he's
the new Jimmy Carter. Yeah,yeah, your thoughts, you know what.
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I want to touch a little bitmore on what Ashley was saying about
the media, because I do thinkit's at a certain point you're doing a
disservice to your audience, Like forgetthe rest of the country. You don't
care about the rest of the country, but you're not even serving your audience
properly when you do this kind ofstuff. Man, anybody who's who's listened
to this show, and it's beenlong time listeners on this show, they
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know that on this show, anybodycan do. We've talked about Trump,
you talked about Biden, We've talkedabout any and everybody can get it,
which is how it's supposed to be. And we talk about each other too,
right, Yeah, But anybody canget it. That's how it's supposed
to be. But when you whenyou present this sycophantic view of what's going
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on with with Biden, it hurtsyour own audience because there's things that are
happening that they're not even being madeaware of. And I think it's shameful.
I think it's shameful behavior by themedia. Instead of just calling balls
and strikes and doing like what wedo, making sure that anybody can get
(06:39):
it there, they are completely totallywhitewashing coverage and setting narratives. It's just
it's just really bad. Can youcan you say whitewashing now? All right?
Anyway, one of the one ofthe things that I see and and
and for for our listeners. I'mcurrently um in an in another location geographically,
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and so I'm looking from a asa social scientist looking back at the
at the United States, and oneof the things that I've noticed is the
rise in just blatant, unadulterated violencein cities such as Chicago. And yet
(07:30):
the I don't know if we shouldeven call her the mayor, but the
person who's sitting in an in anoffice of authority basically saying the same tired
UH talking points about gun control whenher city is basically burning to the ground.
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We just saw some people that thatwe're celebrating UH the Puerto Ricans Puerto
Rican Day, and the car runsinto the back of them, and in
long behold, the guy gets shotin the head and the girl gets shot
in neck. For what what isgoing on? And how is Joe Biden
dealing with or what is he possiblygoing to say or do about the increasing
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violence in the United States. Hecannot blame all of this on on white
supremacis because I don't think there's enoughwhite supremacis to go around doing all this
violence. Actually, what are yourthoughts? Um? No? And honestly,
a lot of the violence we sawthis weekend, like a mass shooting
in Oakland, shooting in Chicago,they have not been done by white supremacists.
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We know who the people are they'redoing it, and I mean,
if they know it doesn't fit thenarrative that they're putting out there. I
think it's a couple of things thatare probably going to make this more violent
summer. I do think that somany people being out of work for so
long has played a role in itand just a national sense of frustration and
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the things aren't getting better. Wagesare still very low, the cost of
livings going up. But also Idon't think there's any doubt that a lot
of this anti law enforcement, kindof anti police rhetoric has emboldened some people
and they feel like, you know, that kind of the public sentiment is
(09:43):
more favorable to them right now,and they're more likely to be seen as
victims of their circumstances and the policeare evil. So I think it is
encouraging some of this violence that we'reseeing your thoughts, Yeah, so there's
a lot. There's a lot atplay when it comes to why we're seeing
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the violence. One thing that oneof the guys from the Fraternal Order Police,
who I don't sight very often becausethey're a lot of times they're not
very honest when it comes to theissues of police misconduct. But one thing
that he said that was absolutely accurate. He said, people are talking about
new gun laws, we're not evenenforcing the ones that we already have the
booked. I believe that that's athat's a big part of it. We
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already know that statistically, the vastmajority of gun crimes are committed by people
who were not legally supposed to havea gun in the first place, whether
they were convicted felons, whether thegun was stolen, whether the serial number
was scratched off, whatever is right. So we already know that most gun
crimes are committed by people who arebreaking the law just by having that gun
in the first place. I thinkthat's part of it. Now, the
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issue with the rhetoric. I dobelieve that Ashley is right in this regard,
but part of it is what drivesme nuts about this debate. And
we talked about this before on thisshow. Right where now you go from
wanting to talk about issues of policebrutality and police mixed conduct, which acts
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absolutely hoppens, there's no doubt aboutthat. But now we go from that
to people on one side of theargument saying abolish the police, and then
you have people on the other side, on the on the far end of
the other argument, saying, well, nothing, this, this doesn't happen.
This is a myth, like Iheard somebody say on Fox the other
(11:37):
day, which is complete and totalbs. So again it's another example of
the extremes controlling the argument. Theextremes controlling the debate. I do believe
that that has an impact on thestreets. But also I actually made another
point that I don't think people aretalking about enough, and that is the
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after effects of everybody being up withCOVID. We are from from COVID.
From the shutdowns. We already knowthat there have been there have been more
incidents of road rage, There's beenmore incidents of people getting killed on the
highways, accidents and stuff like that. We know that drug use is up,
we know that alcohol abuse while drivingis up. We know that all
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of these things are up as aresult, as a partial result, and
I think it's twofold one. Thereare people who are still either unemployed or
underemployed, who lost their jobs asa result of the shutdowns, who have
not been able to get them backin the government never really did what they
should have done as far as takingcare of the people. They borrowed one
(12:43):
point four trillion dollars to give theAmerican people fourteen hundred dollars. So I
don't know. I don't know howthat math works. But also, human
beings are not where we are communalcreatures. We're not knick to be shut
off from the rest of the worldfor as long as we were, and
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I do believe there's a there's amental aspect that's being at play as well.
And you know, and I hearwhat you're saying, um I,
and I agree with a lot ofwhat you're saying. But I think that
the people that were that that shouldbe held accountable for the lockdown and for
a lot of this violence and fora lot of this are not being even
talked about. H Faucium being one. I think that because we see new
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information that's coming out and now wesee that those people who support him basically
want to run interference for him.The fact is that he knew a lot
of things, and I think thathe ingratiated himself. It appears that he
ingratiated himself UM in a lot ofthis UH instituting a lot of this these
things. And then those people whoare basically empower UH governors of different states
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UH that were acting in in intheir little dictatorial manner UM. At the
end of the day, I thinkall of this has a contribution to it,
But at some point people still haveto be responsible for their individual actions,
period and for them to not haveconsequences basically has has caused the country
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to go at this particular point whatappears to me to be a tailspin starting
from the lies and the abject thieveryof a lot of things that basically took
place and was a cover up.So, uh, Derby, I know
you want to have a response towhat I said. Yeah, So obviously
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you'd have to be a crazy personto think that there shouldn't be any consequences
for your actions. And there's athere's there's several crazy people out there who
believe that. So, I mean, we're not talking about unicorns here,
but I do believe that the situationis more complex than that. So when
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we look at, for example,if we talk in these if we talk
about crime in these big cities,and it's not just a black cities either.
Portland don't have a lot of blackpeople in it that that don't play
for the Portland trailblazers, and theircrime is extremely high, right, And
they're not they're not conservatives either,No they're not. But there's there's crime
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that has been raising that has beengoing up in some conservative cities as well.
It just so happens that most Republicansdon't run most big cities because Republicans
don't show up in elections in bigcities. But that's another conversation for another
day. Having such a part ofthe issue, you have people, we
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already know that studies show that peoplewho are in violent communities or in violent
neighborhoods have the same characteristics as PTSDvictims. We already know that we never
addressed we never addressed the mental partof this. We never addressed the mental
health part of this at all.Ever, So if we are but if
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we already know that, what doyou think that did you think that made
that better? Or that made thatright? Probably made commissense will say that
having the extended lockdowns, and I'mnot somebody who doesn't believe we should have
did them. I do believe itmight have went a little too long.
But at doing that, you thinkthat exacerbated the situation? Of course it
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did, and it also taking kidsout of school exacerbated the situation because the
crime rate among young people has skyrocket. I wonder why you're telling them for
a lot of kids. And thenwe got to go to break tide.
If you want to pick this backup, what we can you're telling a
(16:53):
lot of kids who go to schoolto get away from their environments that you
can't go to school, So I'mmusa send you back in your environment all
day. You know what I mean? So I know we gotta get a
break, Folks, will be rightback. You're listening to The Todd Allen
Show. Do you feel like everyoneis yelling at each other but no one
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is listening to each other or themselves. I'm Cura Davis post of Just Listen
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Daro at d the Kingpinn everywhere.That's dt, GK and GPI, and
I would also like to welcome ourwayward guest. Wait, Colleen, how
are you? I am well goingto be back in uh congratulations on two
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hundred, two hundredth episode here atthe Todd Allen Show. How can our
listeners follow you? Well, firstof all, I couldn't have done it
without you all. Well, waita minute, wait a minute, did
they not pay the heat bill inhades or what is going on? Go
(18:44):
ahead, Colley, colle namor umFacebook and Kale Lamor on Twitter. Yeah,
thank you for that. He wasactually nice that that was That was
pretty good. Thank you. I'mI'm in shock. I don't know where
to go at this point. Soyeah, well, uh w the last
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segment, you said something which wasvery very correct and precise, is that
we give it to people on theleft, we give it to people on
the right, and while a lotof people don't believe it, I think
at this particular point in time,this would be a great opportunity for us
(19:33):
to talk about some of the infightingor hand fighting that takes place within conservative
radio talk etcetera, etcetera. AtNauseumm okay, yes, this is.
(19:56):
This is a person who is notan a end of the show. We've
actually mentioned this person before and wecompared this person to a myriad of other
people. But let's talk about therigamarow and the unruffling of feathers that Candice
(20:18):
Owens is now involved in. UM. And I'm gonna I'm gonna let you
start, and I'm gonna ask Ashleyto to come in because I know that
you are, uh, you're you'rereally with the smoke today. So take
it away, kingmin. All right. So for those of you who are
(20:42):
not aware, UM, there wasseveral dust ups on social media between Candice
Owens and several prominent of other prominentblack conservatives are very young Pure Davis as
part of the FC be Ready anetwork being one of them. Candice said
(21:04):
some things about Junie Teenth that alot of people, include myself, had
a problem with, and when peopleresponded in kind, she went off.
So another person that she got intoit with is a woman by the name
of Kim Klayson. He probably aremade aware of her. You probably know
(21:26):
who she is, if not,she is the one who was running for
Congress in Baltimore, walking the streetsof Baltimore install acts right now. But
also the thing about Kim Kayson,which I've learned, you know, just
through this whole smoke, Kim themoney that she's raised, because basically now
(21:49):
Candice is accusing Kim of being agrifter, she's accusing Kim of using people's
money for a race that she hadno chatty in, et cetera, et
cetera. Well, I've turned outthat Kim Kimberly actually a lot of that
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money that she raised and did thingsin the community that she was talking about
to help that community, which issomething that blecks it never does or rarely
does. Bless it is Candice owensuh nonprofit organization where she said she is
(22:30):
going to be leading, leading thelittle darkies out of the Democratic Party to
the Republicans. Now, anybody whoknows people knows that Candice's approach not not
been very not She's not real popular, she's not real popular with the brothers
(22:52):
just saying no and no. Andin fact, in fact campaign understood that
as well. That's why if younoticed he was nowhere to be found during
the RNC, because the Trump campaignwas actually trying to win black votes and
understood that putting Candyslans there with alienatepeople so and to there, which and
(23:17):
it's really interesting too because we've talkedabout the browning of the Republican Party.
You talked about how Trump is,how Trump improved his numbers across the board
among minorities, but particularly black people, in particularly black men, where it
got around twenty percent of black men. It's very funny to meet that black
said, and Candy Sowans strives totake credit for that, but I digress.
(23:37):
I'm not trying to be messing.So, you know, the thing
that's that's real interesting to me iswhen people when when there's tips like this
and people respond, you hear allthat, you see all of these comments
of oh, you should be workingtogether to be unified against the left.
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Just then the third right. Kiamade a very very very good point,
she said, doing on social media. She also said this on her show
Just Listen to Your To Yourself withKara Davis, which you can find on
the FCV Readio network on all podcastsand platforms. But she said, she
said, I find that really interestingbecause you never hear them say that when
it's white conservative versus white concernatives.How many the Conservatives are always fighting with
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each other. That's what conservatives do. So so it's just it's very interesting
to me that when it's black femaleconservative versus black female conservative, it's no,
you need to work together. No, sometimes you have disagreements, and
sometimes those disagreements need to be airedout, and if it's going to be
(24:49):
for the benefit of what you're tryingto do, sometimes it's not in your
best interest to keep that stuff tothe side. So now Candice has been
on the mission to try to teardown Kim Clayson, and Kim ain't having
it. She's fighting back, andI'm sitting in the back like the Michael
(25:10):
Jackson Jeff with him eating popcorn.So I find it to be the whole
thing has been very entertaining. Ithink everybody knows my stance on campus arms.
I don't believe that she has beenvery helpful. If you are someone
that believes it's in black people's intereststo diversify their political vote, which I
(25:33):
do, I don't believe it's Ido not believe it's in the interest of
black people to have all of ourpolitical capital in one party, because it
allows one party to ignore you andallows the other party to exploit. So
I'm firmly believe that I'm not sayingall black people should be Republicans. I'm
not saying all black people should beDemocrats. I'm saying that we need to
(25:53):
make both parties compete for our votelike every other group does. We're the
only group that gets told that weshould not I have competition for our vote,
which I think is bs. Havingsaid that my views on Canvas are
clear, she's not very helpful inthat cause because she says very outlandish things,
and most of the things she sayshas no love in it at all
(26:15):
whatsoever. And she's not she can'treally take criticism very well because anytime somebody
pushes back, she tries to destroytheir career. So that's what's happening right
now, and I'm here for it. Ashley your thoughts. I'm with Derby
on this, and I am nota fan of candas Owens. I believe,
(26:38):
first of all, this is notthe first time she's done something like
this. I believe she is allabout profit. She knows what to say
to basically tell white people who aremaybe not actually racist but want to ignore
racism and hear that it's not aproblem. She tells them what they want
(27:00):
to hear, and it's lucrative forher. I think that she is disingenuous.
She posted something on Twitter a whileago and a liberal responded by saying,
here you dropped this and including apicture of it KKK hood and she
went ballistic and said that the guyhad threatened her and was like threatening to
(27:25):
kill her and everyone knows that.No, he never should have said.
It was an idiotic thing to say. But he was basically calling her a
racist, which I do believe aspossible for people of any color to be
racist or anti black. We knowthat people can internalize that kind of thinking.
So he was saying that she wasmaking a racist point. He was
(27:48):
not threatening her with KKK imagery andshe knew it. I just feel like
she's totally dishonest, and I'm nota fan. Kale. Do you have
any thoughts that you'd like to share? Honestly, I don't. Wow think
(28:10):
it took us two hundred episodes toget to them. I'm just kidding,
my friend, go ahead. No, I just think it's all just all
of this Twitter stuff personality wars.I think that some people, including Canvas,
(28:36):
including some mothers, don't have tocomment on everything. Some things you
just should not even comment on,and I think that sometimes gets hurt into
trouble and others just sometimes you justdon't have to comment everything. But I
think also, um, when itgets to the point where people get so
(28:57):
big and their personality get so bigand their careers get so big, then
you're gonna have all this fighting,this arguing going on between people who were
battling for position. You know,these are two people who basically became sort
of overnight sensations in a way thatcan replace it. You know, just
(29:23):
a year ago, nobody would knowwho she was, and then she ran
for Congress and then this ad campaignthat she had on online went crazy and
actually at tea Pack about a yearago, I was talking to her assistant,
I don't know a few later,Derby or we were trying to connect
with her and didn't didn't get achance to connect with her. And that
was before this stuff blew up.Oh really so now yeah, yeah,
(29:49):
yeah, I've talked to her assistantbecause I've been following her on Twitter the
last couple of years and wanted totalk with her, but I couldn't connect
with her. We had a lotof stuff going on that weekend. So
and then I knew I was gonnawasn't gonna get the shot when that ad
Campain came out and it just wentberserk, got millions and millions and millions
of hits where she's walking through theghetto in Baltimore and instilltos, you know
(30:17):
Instilltos. Yeah, yeah, Yeah. She didn't win her seat, of
course, but she put herself outthere. So I don't think it's helpful
to anybody. It's just a lotof silly stuff. So I don't leak
there. Yeah, I think thatif you want to look at the distinction
(30:37):
or say, if someone has said, what's the difference between Al Sharpton and
Candice no Ones, what would yousay, darby the audience, I mean
at the end of the day,and this is some people aren't gonna like
this, but I have said thispublicly before and so it is what it
is. Um, I don't reallyand there's I've evidence to prove that that.
(31:04):
I don't know if everything that shesays is genuine, if she actually
believes a lot of the stuff shesays. There are times where she says
things that are clearly targeting the lowestcommon denominator in our audience. And I
believe that there's no difference between whatshe does or on the right and what
(31:27):
a lot of black commentators on theleft that we talk about, where you
are basically presenting a message to pimpunsuspecting white people out of their money.
And that really bothers me. Itreally bothers me, because it's it's one
thing, if you're genuine, ifthis is what you actually believe, we
(31:52):
can we can debate and go backand forthfall day long. But when you
tell people that raycism doesn't exist.She just said this last week is again
when you tell people that racism doesn'texist. But we know she said what
Yeah, she said, yeah,she said she has said racism doesn't exist,
(32:14):
because I'm here. She also saida variation of the same thing last
week. But when you say that, and we know that you got a
big settlement working with the Connecticut INAACPfrom high school, someone some height,
some white boys saying the day wastreating you to raise the stuff, how
(32:38):
you can then turn around and say, oh, racism doesn't exist. I
have a hard time believe, likethere are some people who believe that and
we can disagree and argue all day. But I have a hard time believing
that you believe that when I knowthat you had a major lawsuit in Connecticut
(33:00):
working with the Connecticut NAACP because ofsome racist incidents that happened to you and
to white dudes I was in yourschope. I have a hard time buying
that. I have a hard timebuying that you are against cancel culture when
one of the first things you didwhen you started to become famous was to
create a website designed to adopts peoplewho said things, who said things that
(33:27):
people didn't like on the Internet.That is the definition of cancel culture.
That's exactly what's going on in socialmedia now, and she created a whole
platform to do. Yet you know, she presents herself as this big defender
of presidential Trump. She was againstTrump at the beginning. So there are
so many different things in her entirebiography that don't match the rhetoric that comes
(33:52):
out of her mind. And sowhen I see that, that's different than
saying, all right, I justdisagree with you. We have a different
point of view. That's when thatkind of looks like drifting to me.
People may be mad about that.Sorry if you're mad about that, but
that's just that's just half. Actually, would you care to follow Dario's tribe?
(34:17):
Uh? No, I think thatwas beautiful? Yeah, yeah,
I think you're absolutely right. Dar. I think that the only difference is
the audience. And I think thatCandice, uh, you know, she
certainly makes a living by by sayingum, a dog signaled to certain groups
(34:38):
of people. And if if herum, if her idea is that she's
actually bringing a lot more blacks tothe Republican Party, I need to see
the numbers because I just don't believeit. Folks, we are right back.
You listened to the time I wouldshow hot topics, celebrity news,
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Listen on the iHeart radio app orwherever you get your podcast today.
That's the Outlaws Radio Show, thatTodd Allen show on the FCB Radio network.
Welcome back, folks. Now wecome to a very very very special
(35:22):
part of the show. You bigdummy, I'll spell it fight du m
m stupid. The reason that badthings happened to you, it's because you're
a dumba. Okay, um,I am going to completely admit at the
(35:47):
at the beginning of this that Iam putty flicted as to whether I should
even call this a dummy or notbecause what they what they did is something
that has brought us so much jotum. You in particular this as we
(36:10):
we talked about this before, youare going to understand exactly where I'm coming
from when I read it's who who? Who are you? Who? Who
are you referring to? When yousay you kaled kale is you? You
relate to? You relate to?But this is definitely going to touch Kaleede's
(36:30):
hard. Okay uh from tmz Ikiais under fire after one of its stores
in Atlanta allegedly listed fried chicken andwatermelon as menu items for its employees to
supposedly honor June team. Oh mygoodness. The furniture giant reportedly sent in
(37:00):
two employees last week alerting them thatquote to honor the perseverance of black Americans
and acknowledge the progress yet to bemade. It was also going to roll
out a special menu. Now here'sthe menu, Okay. The menu includes
(37:21):
fried chicken, watermelon, mac andcheese potato salad. At the greens and
Kathie oh m Gee story. Whois this? Ikea in Atlanta, Okayanta
(37:42):
posted this story. I posted thisstory because I posted that. This is
why I am against corporate pandering,because they will almost always look like morons
when they do this, because there'sthey're they're too ignorant. You're being polite
when you say mon here. So, of course, back to the TMZ
(38:04):
article, and that's where Ikia droppedthe ball big time because the so called
special menu, again for a holidaycommemorating the end of slavery, included fried
chicken, watermelon, and mac andcheese. Some of those items, of
course, perpetuate racial stereotypes. Anemployee who wished to remain anonymous, told
CBS forty six quote, you cannotsay serving on melon called June teeth is
a soul food menu when you don'teven know the history. They used to
(38:28):
feed slaves watermelon during the slave time. The outrage led to twenty employees calling
off the work. Word that workerswere furious quickly began to spread at the
store, and it ultimately reached thestore manager, who sent out another internal
email apologizing the menu was Ultimately themenu was ultimately altered to include cornbread,
(38:51):
maso and meat long. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I forgot the corn
and none of us employee replies.He said none of the co workers who
sat down to create the menu wasblack, but we reached out to Ikea
(39:15):
and the spokesperson refused that, sayingthere were black co workers involved, but
it offered no further details. Thespokesperson added, we value our co workers'
voices and change the menu after receivingreceiving feedback that the foods that were selected
are not reflective of the deeply meaningfultraditional foods historically served as probably meaningful.
(39:39):
You know, candas owns wasn't onthat committee, got it wrong, and
we sincerely apologize. All right,so obviously, oh corporate corporate candoring is
the big dogs. This is thegreatest of all time. This is this
is the grow greatest of all times. This trumps every person that we've ever
(40:04):
had from Florida. But here's thething. Here's the thing, though,
I am conflicted because I'm a chicken'sdelicious and watermelon is delicious. I am
conflicted. Now. Now here's apoint that Khalide made and I would love
(40:29):
after finished this soliloquy, I wouldlove for us to go to college so
he can elaborate on this point.But yes, Kalide is absolutely right.
This is the problem with corporate pandering. It's actually it says a lot in
one thing. Because number one,if I kid is telling the truth and
black people were participants in creating thismenu, then for other black people to
(40:53):
be offended by that menu, youprobably shouldn't have did it. But on
the other hand, if it wasonly white people that created this menu,
that's worse. But on top ofthat, on top of that, this
is all stuffy because no group ismonolithic. But this is all stuff that
(41:15):
most black people actually eat. Weeat this stuff. So so the whole
thing like what you said when whenthe person that they quoted was talking about
old when they gave the slaves watermelon, stop it, stop it, stop
it because we've been eating watermelon eversince. Don't nobody care about how we
started eating watermelon. We still eatingwatermelon a day, and we still eating
(41:36):
watermelon because it's delicious. You arenot going to cancel watermelon. I don't
get the damn what you say.Well, you know what the rule is,
right, but telling the rule cleatelling the rule. The rule is
when it comes from watermelon chicken,we like it, but don't offer it
to its exactly. You know mygrandmother used to do is that she would
(42:00):
buy it, but she would hideit right, she wouldn't know she was
carrying it from the store. Now, please take a little bit of time,
just a couple of minutes, toelaborate on why when corporations who have
(42:21):
no real they ain't no ideas inthe hood, they have no real right,
they have no real connection with blackpeople, how come corporate pandering usually
doesn't turn out very well because usuallythe fact that you're out of touch,
(42:44):
the fact that you are culturally ignorant, you're gonna go to that that stereotypical
place in your brain that you thinkis reality, and you're gonna do something
or say something or print something stupidwhen you haven't answer for black people.
You know, is this a goodidea to have that black person somewhere to
(43:07):
say hell to the null? Youneed you need to have that hell to
the null black person on staff thedepartment of Hell to the Null. I
need to tell you don't don't don'tdo this, dude, that they need
that woke person right. I believeyou make an excellent point because I tell
(43:30):
my wife friends this all the time. I tell them, any question you
have about black people, I don'tcare how crazy it sounds to you,
how offensive it may sound to you, ask me, because I would rather
you ask me and I can getyou, get you together, then for
you to go out in the worldand say something stupid to get punched in
(43:52):
the mid Right, I'm like,don't worry about it, because if I
know you coming from a good place, don't worry about offending me. Whatever
question you have about black people,ask me. Don't go out in the
world and gon't do something stupid becauseyou was too afraid to ask. You
need to ask the question. Hey, you know what we want to We
want to do this menut with Juneteam. Should we put her chicken and
(44:14):
watermelon on there? Well, youknow they couldn't have. They couldn't not
they couldn't have. I mean,how come they couldn't have watercress and cucumber
sandwiches, you know what I'm saying, And how you know, and being
salad with no taste? You knowwhat I'm saying. And the only thing
they was missing was red cool eggnow I have to ask before we go,
(44:40):
I have to ask, as Iwant your opinions on this. Okay,
So, because I've heard a lotof white people say, I don't
understand how that became a stereotype.Chicken and watermelon is delicious, right,
And they're right, They're absolutely right. It should not be a stereotype.
Like Dave Chappelle said, if youdon't like fried chicken and watermelon, it's
(45:01):
something wrong with you, would ain'tsomething wrong with us. But does this
you're thoughts of the story in general, and the fact that we have black
people get stereotyped by the food,does that make any stance to you at
all? Actually, not to injectsomething serious into a humorous segment, but
(45:24):
I think it's important to note thatfried chicken in the past was back when
people were poor and meat was aluxury. Meat was treated a lot differently
one hundred or two hundred years ago. It was not something that people ate
every day. It was considered kindof like extravagant, and fried chicken was
(45:49):
actually like a Southern um, likea I don't know, not a delicacy,
but it was considered kind of afancy dish like we would consider lobster
some high end sea through today.And because of their history of being made
to cook for rich white Southerners,black people knew how to prepare it,
(46:13):
they knew how to cook it,and a lot of poor Southern whites did
not. They not only could notafford it, they did not know how
to make fried chicken. They didn'tknow how to cultivate watermelon. Actually,
one of my teachers in high schoolexplained this to me because she said,
growing up poor in the South,she said she remembers eating stale bread out
(46:35):
of the box like they did nothave meat. So a lot of the
stereotypes or negativity about black people supposedlyliking fried chicken is literally just resentment on
the one of poor I'm gonna sayit, poor white rednecks being resentful that
Black people were eating while and theyweren't. And it was because Black people
(46:57):
have been taught how to cook andfarm and things like watermelon. The kool
a. I don't know where thatcame from, but well, I mean
there's nothing, there's absolutely nothing.Obviously chicken. The price of chickens much
lower. Now we have fried food, we have a fast food that serves
things fried, but back in theday when this whole thing started, it
(47:21):
didn't, but I knew as soonas they made it an official holiday,
I knew Juneteenth was gonna be anopportunity for white people to embarrass themselves.
One of my friends posted. Oneof my friends posted the other day,
white people are gonna start treating Duneteenth like sink on a mile. They're
gonna be showing up to the barsand the sheeties and stuff in more balder
(47:44):
terms, And he is absolutely right. It's why I didn't say much about
junetoons because I feel like I needto know more about it, but like
they just can't help themselves. It'slike and it's so bringe worthy and no,
you should never like celebrate a holiday, uh for African Americans without any
(48:08):
input from them. I don't know. It amazing to me at first,
I thought, at first, theonly defense is that he is a Swedish
company, and Swedish people might notunderstand that this whole thing has a negative
connotation because of racial stereotype. It'slike they might have liked looked on the
(48:30):
Internet and thought, oh, it'slike saying that Google, what do black
people eat? Right? But theydon't be if you're not from this culture,
you don't really understand it. Butapparently this is a local thing in
Atlanta. Like they can go andask a black person. There are funny
of black people in Atlanta, andit's just ridiculous topically. So next,
(48:57):
we don't see a bunch of whitepeople walking around and up kids say clothes.
Well, they already already do itat the Capitol. But Nancy Lucie
needs somebody to help her get offher knees touching that comment fole. Now
it is time to wrap. AndI don't mean rap news white people,
(49:28):
Khale. Do you have any lastwords? No, I'm just listen,
um. And this is I saythis with a bit of sarcasm, but
actually it's so it's true. I'mnot looking forward to more celebrations every year
which black people, you know,can shoot each other. So we got
June teeth to add other absolutely anyfound words white people just you know,
(50:00):
I think twice about Juneteenth, andI know that a lot of these white
people just had no capacity for embarrassmenton this front. But really, like
it's not that hard, it's notbeing completely toned off and just idiotic.
I knew it was coming any finalcomment, Yeah, if you're making a
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menu to celebrate a Black holiday,you should probably check with black people first
and make sure that that menu isokay. And I will say that,
if you're going to make a menuon a Black holiday and you apologize,
please don't include the corn bread afteryou, folks. That's different. Todd
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Hellens Show. Until next time,people lest The FCB Radio Network, first
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