Humor Humility And The Leader’s Pulse with Krish Dhanam

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Greetings everybody, This is christ Dunham filling in for my
dear friend Todd Huff on the Todd Huff Show, the
home of Conservative not Bitter. Todd is taking a much
deserved break, so I, along with a few other guest hosts,
are going to fill in for a couple of the shows,
and I've been slated to do two of them, so

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bear with me as we do two different topics. At
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My name again is Chris Dunham. My email is Chrish
at Patriot Academy dot com Chrish at Patriot Academy dot com.
And that is the new endeavor that we have been
on since the last time we were together. I know
the show itself has increased in the number of listeners

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and the number of markets it is now available. So
as always, it is a distinct pleasure and an honor
to be asked by Todd to fill in, And every
time I get the email, I jump right on it,
because even though I don't have an affinity for this,
I'm a teacher by nature. So we'll try to get
you some thoughts and some ideas in a concise form

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so that we have some fun in our three segments
today and in the next episode when I'll be featured again. Today,
I want to talk about humor and humility, some of
the things that seemed to be lacking from all of
our leaders on all sides of the aisle. Obviously since
we were last together, America went through a great reset

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in November of last year when we had the greatest
political comeback in the victory of our current President, Donald J. Trump.
I myself had done early voting and left the country,
not realizing what country I would come back to. We
were on the heels of being pushed up against the wall,

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and many things happened. And so after I early voted
and went away to India with bated breath, we awaited
the results while I was in India and through to form.
The last time President Trump won unexpectedly was also in
twenty sixteen, when I was in India in the same
city at the same time. So, in talking about humor

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and humility, I want to take you through something called
the leader's pulse. If you are conservative, not bitter, that's
why you're listening to this show. We are all about
ideas that allow us to engage appropriately, endeavor succinctly. But
more importantly, because we follow a moral law and a
moral lawgiver, we want to encourage compassionately. So I'll talk

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about some of the tenets of a leader's pulse that
I hope that those that are conservative and are serving
an office in various capacities will listen to this and
get some ideas. But for the humor side of it,
when I was a child, we had some of these
nonsensical poems that we found fancy because I grew up
in rural India, so the access to things that were

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Western were much more limited. This was before the Internet era,
so as a result of it, anything that caught our
fancy in those days stayed with us. We memorized it
to the best of our ability, because we didn't have
download capabilities, etc. The joy of artificial intelligence and the
ability to search the length and breadth of the Internet
and the blogospheres has created for me a new joy

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where I can go back and rediscover some of these things. Today,
I want to share with you one such humorous poem,
and then we'll get onto the business at hand of
dissecting a leader's pulse and the importance of a leader
having a good pulse in this modern tumultuous climate. So
the poem goes this way, one fine day in the

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middle of the night, is how it's titled. So right
off the bat, you know that it's going to deal
with some idiosyncrasies that are diametric opposites. And the reason
I'm going to share this with you is a lot
of our political dialogue seems to be like this, opposite
ends of the spectrum, never meeting, completely randomly made up,
two sides going at it with neither side seating anything

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and nobody understanding what's going on. So here's how that
poem goes. One fine day, in the middle of the night,
ladies and gentlemen, skinny and stout, I'll tell you a
tale I know nothing about. The admission is free, so
pay at the door. Now, pull up a chair and
sit on the floor. One fine day, in the middle

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of the night, two dead boys got up to fight.
Back to back. They faced each other, drew their swords,
and shot each other. A blind man came to watch
fair play. A mute man came to shout hooray. A
deaf policeman heard the noise and came to stop these
two dead boys. He lived on the corner in the

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middle of the block, in a two story house on
a vacant lot. A man with no legs came walking
by and kicked the lawman in his thigh. He crashed
through a wall without making a sound, into a dry
creek bed, and suddenly drowned. The long black horse came
to cut him away, but he ran for his life,

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and it's still gone today. I watched from the corner
of the big round table, the only eye witness to
facts of my fable. But if you doubt my lies
are true, just ask a blind man he saw it too.
Of course, this is credited to anonymous and as a result,
we'll leave it at that. Every time I read that,

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every time I dissect those words, I think that that's
where we are blind men watching something that's a fight
and asking to recant our testimony even though we saw
nothing and again, don't read more into it. That was
just a humorous anecdote. And as a result of that,
that's where I find myself when I look at the

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leaders of today and their political dialogue. For example, yesterday
in the Senate, think they had a couple of people
grilling RFK Junior, who is the head of the Health
and Human Services, about his decisions to either gut some
of the programs or eliminate some of the others. But

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the screeching and the hollering that went on was absolutely insane.
These were all people on the same side of the
isle at one time, and the moment one person decided
to do something that he felt his conscience was asking
him to do. RFK Junior was always someone who was
anti vaccines and all of the things, and his own

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family seems to have turned against him. But even his
colleagues on his side of the isle. When he sat
on their side of the isle, they were all buddy buddy.
The moment he crossed the aisles, suddenly he has become
the enemy. This is no different than the scientists who
provide data of God's cosmic creation, and suddenly they go
from very renowned astronomers with great credits and credentials to

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their names and their advanced degrees that were handed out
by these universities. And the moment these people decide to
go and provide their findings to someone like ken Ham
at answers in Genesis, suddenly their scientific evidence is no
longer valid. The same scientific evidence that once was heralded

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by them is now suddenly the opposite of everything they
believe in. So that's how that poem sounds. When you
look at you know, two dead men getting up to
fight and all of that. It's like opposites are clashing
every single day, and somehow you and I, the connoisseur,
the common man is supposed to make sense of this.

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May well the leader's pulse something I practice now since
we last stopped, I've taken on an assignment of being
the dean and provost. There's just some fancy academic titles
we had to give. But considering I never went to
school in America except to teach, yes, it is appropriate
that someone like me who never went to school here

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would be called the dean of an institute. What is
my moral charge? Patriot Academy is an organization. You can
check it out online. But Patriot Academy is founder. A.
Todd has had him on the show as well before.
But they gave me a moral charge. They said, We're
going to bring you young kids who are between the
ages of eighteen and twenty two. Some of them will
be homeschooled, some of them will have come from other environments.

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But our goal is for you to teach them biblical citizenship,
American history, moral philosophy, apologetics, worldviews, and put them through
some socratic methods of debating and rhetoric so that they
are able to understand their own argument, because not only
have they studied what they believe, they have now decided

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to unpack and study what the others believe. This seems
to be the problem we are having. This seems to
be the problem with our current political leaders. Nobody wants
to study what they disagree with with f W. Boram,
a prolific writer, said, if you want to believe that
the world is a beautiful and a wonderful place to
be in, you would do anything to buy the books

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you would shun, and you would shun the books you
would buy. What he was simply saying is that if
you're a Christian, it may not be a bad idea
to study what other worldviews are teaching if you truly
believe what your Lord has stought you. If I truly
believe what my Holy writ tells me, then I have
to also go in it with a belief that God's

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word will not return void. And if I study any
of these other world views, it just puts me in
a socratic position to be able to debate with a
questioning mindset. That's what a leader's pulse is. We need
to understand what the other side is arguing about before
we jump. Otherwise we have these screaching matches or these

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screaming matches in Congress where each person is trying to
up themselves and make sure that their SoundBite is heard.
When a Bernie Sanders, who's an independent supposedly senator from Vermont,
gets on and says, oh, what are you saying? Well,
we all corrupt since we have all taken money. Well,
you said it, and it's now a SoundBite. You're asking

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a rhetorical question. The answer should be known to you
before you asked it. Have you taken money from pharma?
Is that the reason you want certain things out there
and certain things not. Lobbyists have been there in political
spectrum for the beginning of time. So as we dissect
some of these things, I'm going to give you a formula.
It's going to take a different trajectory than a traditional

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radio show, but then that's what I do. I'm a teacher.
I teach young kids some of the art of this
debate and some of the ideas that they need to
engage in. First is posture. If you want to influence
through humility and have the power of patient persuasion, what
is humility. Humility is not thinking less of yourself, it's

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thinking less often of yourself, said Fred Smith. Fred Smith
was a leader's leader. Man. I was talking to a
friend of mine this morning at breakfast, and I said,
if I want to go through my life and have
something written as my epitaph on my gravestone, it would
be what was written of Fred Smith. He stretched others.
He stretched others. Humility is not thinking less of yourself,

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it's thinking less often of yourself. So the first thing
in posture, the foundation of humble leadership, true influence begins
with the leader's inward posture before God and others. You know,
one of the things I'm really perplexed about when I
look at the current crop of politicians on both sides. Again,
don't get me wrong. I know this is conservative, not bitter,

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and we are supposed to tout our conservative cause, and
I do. I'm a die hard flag waving Gung Ho
died in the world republican. But before that, I'm probably conservative,
And before that, I'm probably really grateful as an immigrant
to have studied the charters that made this nation as
great as it is. To this, I want people to

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understand something. There is something about surrendering to God, that
inward posture of humility that begins with that godly edict,
that conscience that pricks you in the morning saying today,
when you go out and open your mouth as you
represent your constituents, as you stand there in front of
the glaring cameras, getting your fifteen seconds of fame, are

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you doing it so that you would be viral. Are
you doing that so that you would be victorious? Are
you doing that so that you would be righteous in
the sense that someone has given you their ability by
voting for you, and you represent their rights and their
sacred honor in this fight. So the first thing is

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that true influence. John Maxwell, leadership luminary, said, leadership is influenced,
nothing more, nothing less. He also added that every individual
in this world will directly or indirectly influence ten thousand people.
Can you imagine the catastrophe that we are creating when
some of the people who are out there in positions
of influence pew such utter garbage. They have no leg

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to stand on and yet try to dance. They don't
have a single dog in the fight, so to speak,
but they are getting rich on their own. I'm a
migrant to this country, and when I look at some
of the people who are first generation migrants to the
United States standing in Congress touting their own calls, talking
about how great their allegiance is to Somalia, how great

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their allegiance is to Palestine, or whatever their root cause is,
it makes my blood boil. I came from India. I
still go back to India. I'm still a taxpayer in India.
I travel back and forth. I love my homeland. I
just was there about a week and a half ago,
and I can't wait to get back. I've made many
trips to my homeland, but nothing can take away the

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pride I have for the country I now live in.
Think about it. That humility, the foundation of humble leadership.
I remember one time I was speaking at a conference
in India and the American flag had been inadvertently hung
upside down. Nobody there knew who about flag etiquette. It
was just some poor kid didn't know which side the
flag was and he put it upside down. Now, whatever

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your decision is, I decided, And this was in New Delhi, India.
I said, I'm not going to go in and speak
till someone comes and rectifies this, because right now I
am a representative of the United States of America, because
that's the country in which I have citizenship. It doesn't
take away from my love for my land, or my
respect and homage to my parents and my ancestors there,

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who taught me a lot. But that inward posturing. Where
do you begin? What is your cause, celeb what is
your non negotiable. How can you have the audacity or
the temerity to stand up in front of a microphone
and say, my first allegiance is to another country while
you're drawing a check in this country as a member

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of the United States Congress, and then to go on
and lie about your net worth and others. It all
is because there is no inward pasturing towards God. There
is no conscience that pricks them, that says, you know,
don't say that that is not right, because one day
there will be a final judgment, and when you stand
in that final judgment, you're going to be held in error.

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See through influence. That inward pasture has to have three
components to it for a leader to truly shine, First,
they have to have a surrendered spirit, yielding control to
others above your personal ambition. Yielding control to others above
your personal ambition, a surrendered spirit. What does that look like?

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That looks like a total commitment to those you represent.
So when your own constituents barrage your phone, or light
up your lines in your office, or inundate you with
email saying hey, these are my concerns. I recently watched
a town hall in Chicago, where the mayor over there
was in confrontation with someone who said, listen, you've got

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a deficit here because you're pandering to the wrong tune. Now,
I'm a first generation migrant, and we may have disagreements
on the whole immigration issue and birthright citizenship and all
of those other things, and I don't know where my
own status will be down the road. For now, I'm
a United States citizen, and you know, I cherished the

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fact that I'm part of that. But I also understand
that this is a privilege getting a visa to come
to this country. If you think it's a right, then
if it's refused, that's the right of the refusal. But
if you think it's a privilege, then you have to
honor that privilege. So when you say that I'm going
to take a billion dollars out of my state budget

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or out of my city budget and give it to
people who broke the law, then a law abiding citizen
has a right to call you on the carpet and
ask you that question. And if you look at them
with anything other than a surrendered spirit, what you're doing
is actually blaspheming yourself. Because the God the Great I

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am is not looking sitting in the sky saying oops,
the mayor of Chicago made a oop. See. No, that's
not how that works. That's just ridiculous. Second, is a
servant's heart. A servant's heart is leading by serving others,
not exalting self being so proud of some of your accomplishments.
And this is a weird thing, you know. Conceit seems
to plague everybody on both sides of the political aisle.

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My mentor mister Ziglo used to say, conceit is a
weird disease. It affects everybody except the person who has it.
And a chip on one shoulder is just indication of
wood up above. Without a servant's heart, you have these
blockhead arguments, you know, the twenty eighty issue that Scott
Jennings talks about on CNN, and I think he is
the next rising star of sanity that we've got on

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the conservative side. But think about it. If there's crime
in the neighborhood and you want the crime cleaned up,
and just because you don't like the person who is
authorizing the cleanup, you now say, wait a minute, I
don't think that you have the right to do that.
The question is not about the right to clean up crime.
The question is do we need to clean up crime?
Is that a right? We want our birthright to be

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able to kill people, but we don't want our living
right to be able to eliminate those that are killing
other people. This is ridiculous because we have strayed so
far away from this Bible and a selfless mindset. Man,
nothing makes my blood boil more than when I see
the net worth of these people in Congress who every

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day have the audacity to stand in front of those
microphones and say, oh, I just earn one hundred and
seventy five thousand dollars a year before taxes. And you know,
I'm just a simple person, and I was a bartender,
and I was this, and I was that. But somehow,
in a collective with all the people affiliated to you,

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there's your siblings, your uncles, your aunts, suddenly your net
worth has gone from nothing from fifty thousand to thirty
million dollars. And you have the audacity to tell me
there's nothing wrong there, and there's nothing. It passes the
sniff test. And I'm just a bagot, or I just
am jealous, or or the best answer I love of all.

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Anytime you question anybody on one side of the aisle,
they'll say, well, you know, let's not focus so much
on what I'm doing. Let's focus on what the Trump
administration is doing. And we are guilt. We're no saints
on our side because we will always blame the other side.
But that's how it's always been. But pasturing, through pasturing,
the foundation of humble leadership will never allow you to succeed,

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will allow you to elevate yourself to a Ronald Reagan's
stature unless you have that surrendered spirit, unless you have
that servant's heart, unless you have that selfless mindset. George Washington,
the first president of the United States. He modeled humanly
by resigning from power twice when he could have kept it.
His servant leadership helped shape a republic built on character

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and restraint. What did he say when he surrendered and
already resigned as the commander of the Continental Army after
the Revolutionary War had been won. He said, I would
be no different from anybody else. I would be no
different than the very king we tried to overthrow or
we have overthrown. If I stay in power just because

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I'm able of him, the King of England said either
that man was absolutely crazy or that was the greatest
man who ever lived. That's true leadership. That's the founder
of the country who later on his second time as well,
after two terms in office, walked away. No greater advocate

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for term limits or at least term common sense. Don't
get me started on that, as Dennis Miller would say,
or I'd go off on a rant. But I've been
in the corporate space for a long time and I
think this is very, very interesting. In the corporate world,
you will outlive your usefulness. If you mess up once

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or twice, third time, definitely you're on the move. Today,
we have people who have been in Congress for forty
and forty five years, whose net worth is gone from
one hundred and fifty thousand to two hundred to three
hundred million dollars, and they have the audacity to tell
me that I'm not in touch. They have the audacity

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to tell me that I don't have the will or
the view of the American people on my side. This
is not leadership, folks. Remember we're talking about the leader's pulse.
This is your humble host, Chris Dunham filling in for
my dear friend Todd Huff on the Todd Huff Radio program,
The Home of Conservative Not Bitter. When we come back

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on the other side of the break, we'll talk about
patients as a combination. Well, welcome back to the Todd

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Huff Show, the Home of Conservative Not Bitter. This is
your guest host Chris Dunham filling in for my dear
friend Todd Huff. It's always a joy to be a
part of Todd's audience. I know he's worked long and
hard to build it, and it's always exciting to see
the growth that the show has had and the reach
the program continues to have. The fact that he has

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asked me back multiple times means in some small way
he must approve of what I'm doing. No, I'm pretty
sure I couldn't do it every day and every so often,
I guess it's fun to just sit back and opine
wholeheartedly about some topic or subject. Today we were talking
about the leader's pulse. In the last segment, we talked

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about posture, the foundation of humble leadership, and we went
through three components of how we need to have a
surrendered spirit, a servant's heart, and a selfless mindset. We
probably touched on a few illustrations, and I think I
left some of the names out there. And I'm pretty
sure that as you're listening, if you are a connoisseur
and a consumer of political facts and political ideologies and commentaries,

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and you're as much an addict to it as I am,
you probably will have figured out who I was referencing
when I was talking about foreigners who come and take
citizenship of this country and an oath of allegiance to
this country, and then get the chance to serve in
the United States Congress and follow in the legendary footsteps

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of people who shape this amazing nation, and then bring
with it their dire tribes and their little complaints and
their little games. It's almost a laughing stock when I
look at the lack of dignity when these people are
screeching at each other just because they don't get their way.
What a childish bunch of antiques it is to play
and scream as if you are truly for the common

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man or the common woman. The fact that you can
infuse into your own thought process something as simple as
common sense tells me more than I need to know.
Well In this second component, I want to introduce you
to the attribute of patients, the discipline of lasting influence.
If pasture is the foundation of a humble leadership, patience

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is the discipline of lasting influence. Now I've been a
denizen of this country for going on forty years. I
came here as a migrant from India with nine dollars
to my name in nineteen eighty six. Since then, I've
had the privilege of working for a few private sector companies,
and the most important tenure was starting with the legendary

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zig Ziggler, the late great motivational icon and quintessential genie,
as a telemarketer in nineteen ninety one circa and then
eventually becoming his vice president of global operations. Through that journey,
I was introduced to many titans of both the faith
and business industry and sports. He took me on some

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of the biggest stages in the country with the likes
of Colin Powell and Rui Giuliani, former First Lady Laura
Bush and others, sports powerhouses, you name it. As a
young immigrant, I could not even believe that that was
the dream I was getting to live. And there was
about a three or a three and a half year
period where it was just him and me on a
private jet. And as I look back at that time,

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I think of the patients I had to develop because
I was in the presence of greatness, and being in
the presence of greatness, I need to realize that I
had a discipline I had to adhere to that when
my time came, and only when my time came would
I try to step out from the shadows and shine.
Which is the problem which we have today. Everybody wants
their moment in the sun, and everybody wants it now.

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So we have twenty five year olds who are just elected,
who think that their identity and their car celeb and
all of the stuff that goes with their ex yzgen
nomenclature is as statuisqually important as those that have truly
been battle tested. I cannot imagine if somebody like Congressman

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Sam Johnson, who had served in Vietnam and had all
that character around him. I just remember when I would
go to hear him speak, you would just be in awe, saying,
that's what a hero looks like. Now we have these
child children, so to speak, and I'm sixty three years

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of age, So anybody who's thirty years of age qualifies
to be my kid. And I see the antics they play,
even if you look at any of these men on
the street interviews, the absolute audacity they have to question
things that are global in nature, that have a historic significance,

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whatever it is. They just think that clinging on to
a piece of paper a poster and donning a Middle
Eastern garb of some kind and masking your face because
apparently you don't want to be recognized, and then yelling
slogans qualifies you for normalcy. No, that's insanity, especially if

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someone walks up to them and says, hey, so Wednesday afternoon,
what do you do for a living? And they erupt?
Isn't that a legitimate question? I thought protests took place
on the weekend for people who truly wanted the economy
to prosper and were worried that something everything in this
world seems to be a threat to democracy, when the
very beauty of this nation is it's a republic. And

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yhow enough set on that side, here's the patient's components
that I want to introduce, and hopefully you'll let allah
ask other people to listen to this. When it's put
in the form of a podcast or something, because aside
from a radio program, it could also be a good
leadership lecture unto itself. These are some of the things
I teach my students at the Patriot Institute, which is
part of Patriot Academy in Fredericksburg, Texas. Enduring leadership is

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not rushed, but refined through restraint, wisdom, and timing. First
is waiting with wisdom, Waiting with wisdom. How come these
folks are so quick to react and so slow to respond,
And there's a difference. You know, you go to a
doctor and you need medicine, and he gives you the medicine,
and you come back a week later and he says,
your body is reacting. That's a negative. He is, your

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body is responding, that's a positive. So throughout human history,
response has been positive and proactive. Reactive nature has not
been good. It's always been knee jerk responding, not reacting
very vital. And the third is persisting in peace, staying
consistent and faithful in doing good. How come we have
gone from I want to serve my constituents to now

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suddenly everybody is racist. Who doesn't vote for me? Every
redistricting measure. If it's good for one side is not
good for the other side. If it is engineered so
that you would get into power somehow, that is just.
If it is engineered so that you're out of power somehow,
that is unjust. And don't even get me started with
some of the camouflage that we are seeing where people

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are trying to pander to become something they are not,
just so that they would garner these votes or they
would garner this image, like as if, for example, in
Hollywood right now, the identity issue is a big thing.
Almost every celebrity there has a child who's got an
identity issue of some kind, and as a result of it,
it's almost like they're trotting out a new designer bag

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and having a child who is confused or going through
some kind of an issue, parading them around is somehow
your way of saying I understand humanity. Suddenly, people who
read a script, who get millions of dollars to do it,
who's only claim to fame is that they can act
like somebody else and do it well, my you, it's
obviously a talent and that they get recognized for it,

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but they are now the voices of reason. These are
the people we are supposed to listen to who get
up with shrill microphone and say that, you know what,
I haven't done a day's work in my life. That's honest,
because all I do is act out someone else's identity,
and I'm going to you know. This is so far
from lasting influence and patience. I was once asked the question,

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what's the difference between success and fame? I said, Madonna
has one mother, Teresa has the other. Fame is what
these people want as their lasting influence. You look at
them at sixty and sixty five my age. I know
that they have been out there performing for forty years.
But somehow they think that wearing less clothes the older

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you get is the only way you can steer relevant. No,
that is not wisdom, That is foolishness. Wisdom is the
correct use of knowledge. We have more knowledge right now
than in any other time in human history, and the
largest percentage of educated derelics messing up the planet. I
wonder what my late mentor mister Zigler, would say. He
would be heartbroken if he saw the world that we

(32:11):
now live in, the cacophony that we see out there
that goes for common sense dialogue. Any town hall you
see begins to erupt into chance and shouts because none
of them wants to wait with wisdom. Give other people
a chance to speak, let them get their complete thought across.
Don't try to cancel them before they speak. This is

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the world we are in, and persisting, staying consistent and
faithful in doing good. A great example is William Wilberforce.
William Wilberforce, his decade long campaign to end the slave
trade exemplifies perseverance and the quiet strength of patient influence.
You know that great change only came when he was
on his deathbed, which means here was a man who

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labored for something all of his life and never got
to see the fruits of it except when he was
ready to check out. But his legacy is cemented forever
because he is considered the champion of that process. When
we come back after this next break and hit our
closing segment for this our first day of filling and

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for Todd, I'll talk real quick about persuasion, the fruit
of christ like influence. We need a lot more persuasive
people in this world. We need to have that posturing
and that patience, but that persuasion, the ability to convince.
This is Ronald Reagan and Tip O'Neil, contentious on the floor,

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disagreeing on many of the pivotal issues of their time,
but still conveniently capable to sit, shake hands and break bread.
When we come back after this break, we'll hit the
closing stretch. Until then, this is christ Dunham filling in
for Todd Huff on the home of Conservative Not Bitter.

(34:18):
Welcome back to our final segment of the Todd Huff
radio show, Conservative Not Bitter. This is Chris Dunham filling
in for Todd Huff as a guest host today and
hopefully tomorrow. I don't know when the second episode will air,
but we'll do that as a separate so that there
is no cross over. We've talked today about pasturing, We've

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talked about patients. I want to really quickly take you
through something called persuasion, the fruit of christ like influence.
You know, many years ago I had the privilege of
trapsing through India to the city of Ahmedabad in India,
which is where Mahatma Gandhi, the architect of the only
bloodless revolution, which was India's independence against the mighty British

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Empire lived I mean Gandhi lived there for the latter
part of his life. He was known as Mahatma Gandhi.
Mahatma was the word meaning great soul that was given
to him by mount Batten. Now Martma Gandhi obviously was
a Hindu gentleman and a Hindu philosopher. So what does
he have to do with christ like influence. I'd like

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to harken too the words of another of India's great
Robin Aratagor, who won a Nobel Prize for his literary
masterpiece called Gitanjali. One of India's great literary giants, he
was also the author who created or at least framed
India's national anthem. Now here is a literary giant, Nobel

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laureate and describing the great soul, the father of modern
Indian he said, he had that spirit of meekness, of
self sacrifice, of simplicity, and of for men, not merely
the love of those who love us, but the love
of those who hate us and those whom we hate.
He had what is called the Christ's spirit. And I'm

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paraphrasing ramin nat Tagori, in quoting about Martma Gandhi, said
he had a childlike quality. He had a decisiveness that
was contagious, he had a persuasiveness that was incredible. But
most importantly, he had the quality that we called the
Christ's spirit. And I find that fascinating that when one
predominantly great Hindu man described another predominantly great Hindu man,

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they use the adjective Christ an adjective. And the reason
I bring that is America is a Judeo Christian nation
that was birth in the Christian identity, that was built
on a Christian identity. And I teach America's biblical citizenship now,
and you can look at all of the founding documents
and you will see that out of the fifty six

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men who signed the declaration, I think forty seven had
a direct church affiliation. Many of them were Deis, many
of them were Theis, many of them were Congregationalists. They
may have disagreed on doctrine, they may have disagreed on disposition,
but all of them believed in a creator God and
an almighty And even Benjamin Franklin when he asked the

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people to take a recess, and some of these things
you know are easily found. If you go to wall
builders dot org or go to do any amount of research,
you'll find that they had a fervor. Even ben Franklin
in his autobiography as writes about how to his son
that when he received the first money, he says, today
we received our first fruit. Now for a man who

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was a deist, which means he had a belief in
the supernatural, but he probably did not believe in what
the Christian exposition was at that time, probably the most
well read man in the colony, I don't think a
preacher could have kept his attention. He was so brilliant.
But he calling his first earnings the first fruit, tells
me that they had an inkling of faith, and that
inkling of faith was biblical in nature. If you go

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back to the very declaration that was signed in France
where Benjamin Franklin was one of the emissaries in seventeen
eighty three along with John Jay and John Adams. I
think the title of that doctrine itself says under the
guise of supervision of the Most High Triune God. So
we come from that biblical background going forward. That's my

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humble request from those of you who are listening, make
sure that your persuasion shows the fruit of christ Like influence.
And I call this the leader's pulse for the simple
reason that whatever our posturing, whatever our pandering, and all
of that is concerned, if we want to lead, we
should not We should also be good followers. That was

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christ Like. His humility was shown in the Upper Room
when he wanted to unleash on the world something that
twelve people would take forward that would change the course
and the direction for the next two thousand years. The
first he did. Thing he did was he ungirded himself
and he washed the feet. In that episode, it doesn't
talk about his feet being washed, which means he was

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the lowliest of the lowliest, even in servant class in
that time. In Hebraic tradition, they were two kinds of slaves.
One kind were the kind who would wash the feet,
and the other kind were the kind who just were
part of being happy that you had a task master
and you had you were a bond servant, which means
the person who washed feet was lower than anybody even

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in slave categories. The fact that our Lord did this
for his disciples shows us that we need to do
something in the days ahead. Now, remember this is the
Home of Conservative not Bitter, so hopefully I'm giving you
ideas that are from the category of not bitter. I
hope you will stay with us when I come back
for another episode be in tune for that. I'm going

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to take you through the process of how we can
be humble and how through our humility we can actually
participate in what the Good Lord gave us as the
great commandment, to love the Lord your God with all
your heart, soul, in mind, and love your neighbor as yourself.
That doesn't mean we compromise on principles. That just means
we stay humble to the process. Again, this is christ

(40:08):
Dunham filling in for Todd huff on the Home of
Conservative not Bitter. We'll see you down the road. Blessings

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