December 3, 2025 • 40 mins
Indiana redistricting is suddenly the center of the political universe, and Todd breaks down why. National Enterprise Director for Turning Point Action, Brett Galaszewski, joins the show to explain how new House maps in this deep red state could decide who controls Congress after the 2026 midterms, why Indiana is now a firewall against Gavin Newsom and the radical left, and what’s really driving some “Republicans” to resist a 9–0 GOP map. Todd and Brett preview Friday’s All In For Indiana rally at the Statehouse, talk strategy for calling key senators, and challenge conservatives to use every legal, moral tool available to save the constitutional republic.
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Speaker 2 (00:36):
All right, my friends, we're going to continue our conversation
today about redistricting in Indiana. And I know, listen, many
of you out there are not in this great state
of Indiana, but this impacts you as well. In fact,
this may be impacted your state specifically, as many states
have looked into redistricting, had the fight over redistricting, all
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of that stuff. But it definitely could impact who is
in Congress starting in twenty twenty seven after the twenty
twenty six midterms. And so today today we have a
special guest from Turning Point Action, which I'll get to
here in just a moment, going to talk about redistricting.
And they've got a rally down at the state House
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special guest on the phone, Brett gallas Chesky. He's the
National Enterprise director of Turning Point Action. Brett like to
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walk you into the program, My friend, how are you?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Thanks Todd, appreciate you having me on. This is great.
Looking forward to being an indie this week.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Well, that's fantastic, And I get the last name right first, Brett,
you did.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
It's a long and annoying Polish last name, not too
uncommon of a name that'll up in Wisconsin where I'm from,
huge Polish population.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Well, with my last name, you don't even have to
move your tongue. You can almost grump my last name out.
So that's a little bit different. But it's good to
have you on the program. So first thing I want
to talk to you about, Brett here is as we
get into this discussion on redistricting in your event here
on Friday at the State House, you're with Turning Point Action.
I know a lot of folks are familiar, of course
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with Charlie Kirk, and especially in the wake of that horrible,
horrific assassination that happened a couple of months back, they
might be familiar with Turning Point USA. Your Turning Point Action.
Help us understand the difference here between these sister organizations.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Sure, yeah, So Turning Point USA is what you typically
see online, the student arm of the Turning Point brand
and name. So anytime that you see those videos online
of Charlie Kirk doing those proved me wrong events on campus,
or the pictures of students tabling with the big government
sucks signs. That's all part of Turning Point USA. Turning
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Point USA is a five oh one C three nonprofit.
Turning Point Action is a five oh one C four.
So we're the political arm of that Turning Point apparatus.
We can endorse candidates, we can hold events and support
of a candidates. We can hold events and support of
certain initiatives, we can get more involved in the political grassroots.
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Turning Point Action was founded in twenty nineteen, and that
was when I came on board with Turning Point Action
as a way to get more involved in statewide and
national elections going forward. So really the best way at
the end of the day, at the bottom line is
we helped Turning Point USA students take that leap from
being the conservative voices on their college campuses to being
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the conservative voices in their communities where it matters most,
in the conservative grassroots.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
And this is all, at a very basic level, part
of Charlie's vision for what needed to happen as we
fight this battle to win this battle for conservatism here
in this great nation.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
It was I mean, think about it ten years ago
when Charlie started turning Point USA out of his garage
in Illinois. There really was no youth field program that
existed at the time in the re Republican apparatus, and
Charlie recognized that and knew that it was more than
just putting bodies on the ground putting young people in
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the fight. It was about revamping the culture of this
young voting block and making sure that we don't make
the same mistakes that the Republican apparatus had been making
up until that point. Keep in mind, this was coming
off of now, like really in the thick of eight
years of Obama and a slide in conservatism, and really,
at the end of the day, when you are complacent,
you lose a lot of Republicans, including it, especially at
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that time in twenty fifteen, but you know, really more
so now, we have to recognize this in a state
like Indiana, have become complacent, and that's how we've gotten
into this redistricting pickle.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
That's right, it's become that's a great way to put it.
We have become complacent, and we've also become I know
we're a red state, but there are certainly a lot
of rhinos here in our state that I've had to
deal with. We won't necessarily get into that, but let's
talk redistricting here specifically. Explain for me. We talked about
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this on the program for a while, but explain from
your vantish point what's happening here and how this could
impact the larger picture, who controls Congress after the twenty
twenty six mid terms, what that could mean for this nation.
Just kind of paint the picture of what's at stake here.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Yeah, I think the mistake right now for people in
Indiana in particular, is that they are putting this into
the bucket of this is very much a local issue,
and that is actually farther from the truth than I
ever could imagine. It started as a local issue, it
has now turned into the national make or break issue
that will affect our ability to compete as Republicans at
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the national level going forward. Indiana is essentially the final
line of protection and making sure that Republicans retain the
House of Representatives next year. It's essentially the backstop now
and putting us in that best possible position. And it
very well could be that a select group of allegedly
Republican senators are going to be the reason that that
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doesn't happen, and we hand the house back to the
radical left and give AOC a lot Omar and all
those other leftist creeps that power. Again, it cannot happen.
Indiana cannot be the reason this happens. I hope it isn't,
and that's why we're fighting so hard for it.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
What's interesting to me is and I actually grew up
in a Union Democrat home. My dad was a Union representative.
I was raised in a Union Democrat home. But I
am by no anyway stretch matter form. I was not
raised in a liberal home, a leftist home. And the
people on the national level, when Democrats are elected locally
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in whatever state they're elected in to go represent them
in Congress or the Senate, they often elect leaders that
are at least liberal and oftentimes radical, extreme leftists who
hate this country as founded. And so I don't know
any I know there's some I certainly know statistically there
are some leftists in our state, but that is not
even use your Democrat values that's being represented on the
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national stage. Talk about that for a minute, if you would, Brett.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Yeah, I think you guys in Indiana are in a really,
really fortunate situation in comparison to someone like me in Wisconsin.
The political makeup of Indiana is so favorable because in
comparison to other Midwest states, certainly Illinois, but I'm talking
about in comparison to like other states next door, like
Ohio or Michigan, you guys are so conservative. You have
massive Republican majorities, you have Republican controlled everything. You have
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the unique advantage of having what I would consider a
relatively speaking, more conservative leaning metropolitan area in Indy, and
then in northwest Indiana that sprawl, the conservative sprawl, really
the conservative exodus out of the city of Chicago has
helped northwestern Indiana become more conservative. So, long story short,
Indiana is about as conservative as any other hard read
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state that comes to mind for people like Wyoming, Idaho, Alabama.
I mean, it's a top five Republican state. But unfortunately,
like what we're finding out is there is a force
that's dragging some Republican senators to the wrong side of
this make or break issue. A lot of it has
to do with the Mike Pence foothold still being very
strong in Indiana. You're starting to see what I call
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the horseshoe theory where you get Republicans and then the
far radical leftists on Twitter. They're locking arms and they're
going after this redistricting fight, and they're going after good
conservative activists. It's kind of wild what we're seeing right now. Indiana,
for all intensive purposes, is the center of the political universe.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Right now. It is the center of the universe when
it comes to this issue. It's critically important. I'm on
the phone here with Brett Gallischski. He is the National
Enterprise Director turning Point Action. So Brett, I'll tell you,
as a guy who's done this, I've followed politics for
g probably thirty years now. Was a political science major
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all these years ago at Butler I was. I had
those fights in the classroom back before they made movies
about that stuff, and had some problems with my professors
and all that sort of thing. But I'll tell you
that ten years ago, I don't know that I would
have been in favor of redistricting. This stuff gets very emotional.
I mean there's you know, there's already people at the
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state House that are doing the chance and all this
sort of stuff. I don't know if I would have
supported this ten years ago. But today I believe that
we're in a fight for the survival of the constitutional republic.
We've got a political party who's proven to us that
they are in favor of law fair. Whatever it takes
to stop Trump, I mean, it'll be endless investigations, It'll
be impeachment times ten, whatever you can imagine. It will
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probably be that and worse. So it's my position, And
tell me where you agree disagree here that conservatives have
to use every legal, ethical, moral tool at their disposal
to win this fight. I think this is one of
those tools. I guess respond to that.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Yeah, I agree wholeheartedly with you. Really like the knives
came out after California's proposition vote in November, So Republicans
currently have a six seat majority in the House, and
with Prop fifty passing in California, which was really just
a bleak night for Republicans all across the country that
election night, Gavin Newsom essentially scrapped now five plus Republican
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controlled seats. So with Indiana having an opportunity to go
from seven two to nine to zero, that could easily
be the make or break difference here. We could easily
be holding onto a one seat majority next.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Year after the midterms.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I have zero problem with the left going hard in
the paint in states that they have massive control in
like California, and I saw Massachusetts was doing that, and
Virginia is talking about this, and obviously you know next
door in Illinois, you guys know that they've manipulated the
maps and taken advantage of Republican controlled everything. I do
not have a problem with that, the maximizing your reach
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as long as Republicans do the same in the equivalent
states that we have that are about as hard read
as any other. And Indiana is kind of the epitome
of that. There's no reason, you, knowing the political makeup
and the historic kind of aura of Indiana, there's no
reason that it shouldn't be a nine to zero map.
And more so than that, from a cultural perspective, this
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is the time for Indiana to draw their line in
the sand and say we are doing a way with
the Mike Pence Republicans of old, and we in Indiana
are mega branded Trump Conservatives, and we want to reverse
course and we want to stop this in its tracks.
So Gavin Newsom and the radical leftists don't end up
looking like heroes going in the twenty twenty eight. Right now,
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we are setting the stage for Gavin Newsom to be
a hero.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
That's a terrifying thought. So, you know, I've I've let's
talk about some of the objectives, objections I should say
here that you may have heard. I've invited critics on
this program. Most folks don't want to come on here.
Bo Bye, who is running here as a Democrat. That's
a legacy Democrat name here in Indiana. His dad and
grandfather were politicians, governor, senator, that sort of thing. But
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Bobye came on and he talked about his opposition to this.
But you know, when you get down to it, Brett
is I mean, isn't it fair to say that it's
there's There's not a lot of meat to the opposition here.
This is a political process. It is legal for the
Republicans to do this. They're not violating the state constitution
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or statute. It is a constitutionally assigned responsibility from the
US Constitution for state legislatures to manage these sorts of things.
What's the real opposition to this?
Speaker 3 (13:39):
I have yet to Todd hear a compelling argument against
the nine to oho map. Every reason that I've heard
thus far, it's been so absurd. It's based on pettiness,
it's based on tyranny, it's based on self righteousness. I'll
give you an example. I mean, you guys know about
that Senator Boachek who's voting no because she doesn't particularly
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like the names that that President Trump was calling Tim
waltz Ter in the election. That's pettiness. We're finding out.
I had a lovely conversation with the GOP chairwoman in Indiana.
It's not her, but we're finding out that there are
high up party elected officials in the Indiana GOP that
are refusing to speak up against this. They're siding with
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the seven to two map, essentially going against Trump because
new district lines could mean that they won't be able
to represent their districts anymore. On the state Central Committee
for the GOP. That's how crazy this has gotten. I've
heard other reasons. I tweeted about this last night. There
is a Republican senator, a woman. I won't say her name,
well maybe I could, no, actually want you guys, can
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you guys can google this. I don't want her to
try and say that I, you know, talk badly about
her and create problems. But she she came out and
she started telling people this that she's a no, a
hard no on the nine to zero map because a
conservative activist group was sending text blasts out to voters
in her district encouraging them to call their senator and
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urge them to support and her grandson was one of
the ones that received the text blast. She does not
know how text blasts work. She thought the group was
only targeting her fourteen year old grandson and has been
telling people that with a straight face, you cannot make
this stuff up. It's the weirdest thing I've ever seen.
We're hearing that Dan Durnell, a senator from kind of
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that northwest part of Indiana, his legislative aids are telling
our activists on the phone that right now he's not
sure because he believes Republicans should win on policy when
literally right next door to his district, the left has
one on taking advantage of every single Democrat controlled apparatus
to manipulate the maps. So it's mind bothering to me.
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It's a head scratcher to me why we're not unified
on this, knowing that it's such a massive majority in
the state Senate.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
It unfortunately doesn't surprise me too much being one that
lives here. I'm you know, Eric Holcombe, who was our
previous governor, was not a conservative. We've got a senator
in the US Senate named Todd Young who's not a
conservative senator. I'm not saying they're leftist there, They're just
they're moderates right there. They're rhinos a lot of times.
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And it's, uh, there has been a lot of that
that's crept into the party here in Indiana. But all
that being said, though, these uh the opposition that I've
heard is basically things like, this is cheating, this is
disenfranchising voters, this is you know, just creating an unfair
advantage for Republicans, and all this sort of stuff. I mean,
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when it comes down to it, as far as I
see it, Brett, the Democrats want at least two representatives
to be Democrats, and Republicans want them all to be Republican.
And I just think it's it's political at its core.
Is there anything else to this besides that?
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Yeah, And I'm starting to believe this more and more
as the days go on and we get closer to
the weekend here. Believe at the end of the day,
for a lot of these senators, they still have a
subliminal hate towards Donald Trump, whether that be you know,
remnants of the Mike Pence, you know Trump conflict that
took place at the end of the first Trump administration,
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or you know, just kind of that deep embedded establishment
roots that a lot of these senators have. I believe
that they're still in some way or another, lashing out
at Trump and using these absurd reasons like like you
know again, like the Trump Callington Walt's names, like these
are just crazy reasons that make no sense for a
conservative to be saying. I think it's masking a much
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larger problem, and it's that the swamp runs deep in Indiana.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yeah, it does. That The voters, the constituents that represent
that elect these people to the state House, don't share
those Some certainly share those, share those sentiments, but many don't.
Many understand what you're saying, what I'm saying. They understand
that Republicans have played with the kid gloves on for
too long. Republicans have been bully and pushed around. It's
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interesting how the blue states in this country can have
districts that look truly that are gerrymander drawn to these
really odd shapes to get cities connected and so forth.
And that's okay. They can do that to the max,
but Republicans can't do anything whatsoever. These maps, by the way,
you can have problems with them, but they're not unreasonably drawn.
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They're continuous, contiguous. They're not oddly shaped and just massively
deformed like some of these other districts could be around
the country. But Republicans have this used against them too
many times, and I think we're sick of it. And
I think that's your rally this Friday may kind of
tap into a little bit of that. So talk to
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me about what you're doing Friday at the State House.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
So we want to rally all of the Republican conservative
naga the base. We want to rally tons of freedom
loving patriots at the State House on Friday to send
that fine message kind of be the crescendo on all
of this that enough is enough. The conservative grassroots that
knocked doors till their knuckles bled to get these Republican
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senators elected, this is not why we work so hard
to get them elected. And for the Republican voter base,
the ones who took time and treasure out of their
days to vote for these Republicans. They don't want this either.
This isn't Indiana, this isn't conservatism, and enough is enough.
So we want to be able to send that gut punch.
We're really excited. We have Governor Mike Brown joining us,
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We have Lieutenant Governor Micah Beckwith joining us. We have
some other awesome speakers, some really young, up and coming
super conservative freedom fighters in the General Assembly that are
coming to join us as well to really rally the
troops here and hopefully by kind of coming onto their territory,
coming into the Capitol and sending that message on the
last possible day for us to do that, Friday the
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fifth and then Monday the eighth is when they vote
on this. We want to be able to say we
threw the kitchen sink at this thing. So if you're
listening to the program right now and you're available on
Friday afternoon, we want you there. We want you to
fight with us, we want you to make your voice heard.
This is Turning Point Action's very first ever event in
Indiana in our organization's history, and we want to start
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it out with a bang, and we want to be
able to say that we change this thing for the
better and we changed history.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
So where do you think things stand right now? From
what you can can gauge, how how tight is this?
What's the likelihood that this passes? What do you think
is well, what's going to happen? What's your judgment on this?
Speaker 3 (20:35):
It's going to be tight. And again, we hope that
our rally at noon at the State House is really
the final punch here that really gets these senators across
the line. For those listening that are wondering where we're
at right now, these are the senators right now that
we believe have the most room to flip, and it's
absolutely imperative that we do get them to flip. So
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if you have, if you're sitting in the car right
now listening to this, and you're in the district of
this person in Indiana, I want you to do us
a favor, and I want you to call that senator's
office between now and Monday and make your voice heard.
It's Dan Durnell, Rick Niemeyer, Ryan Mischler, Brian Bucannon, Blake Dorio,
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Brett Clark, Greg Good and Linda Rogers. These are Republican
senators that have not come out and either opposed or
said that they're in favor of this. That makes no
sense and it's inexcusable right now at this point, they
are Republicans. They put the R next to their name.
In some cases they are in Trump plus twenty districts.
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Brian Bucannan won by thirty nine points a couple of
years ago in his general race, and then last time
he didn't even have an opponent. These are safe Republicans.
They have no political revenge theories, revenge tactics to worry about.
They should be voting in favor of a nine to
ozho map. That's where we stand right now. If we
can just get half of that group to flip, we
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will Okay, it'll be tight, but we will be Okay,
we just need those senators.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
I just have a little bit of time here before
we get to jump off of here. Are all? Is
all the problem in the Senate? Or is the House?
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Is it? Okay?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
There?
Speaker 2 (22:13):
What?
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (22:16):
It got out of committee in the House. Yeah, and
it's going to get voted today on the floor on
the House. We think that this will all be settled
by Friday. So yeah, we've never worried about the House.
That's that's the other mind boggling part to this. The
House will pass this with flying colors. It's just the Senate.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Well, very good, well, Brett, I appreciate you joining us.
Thank you very much. Keep up the hard work. I
appreciate it. And good luck on Friday.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Thanks Tod.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
One last thing for those that want to come, it's
noon on Friday at the Capitol. You can sign up
at tpaction dot com slash Rally Indiana. We hope to
see you there, all.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Right, Brett, I appreciate it. Brett gallas Cheski, he's the
National Enterprise Director, turning point Action folks. I got to
wrap up this segment back in just a minute. Welcome back,
my friends. I hope you enjoyed that conversation that we
had there with Brett gallis Chewski. I'm proud of myself
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forgetting the name right. Brett. As I told him on
the during the interview, you don't have to even open
your mouth to say my last name. You can grunt
it almost tough, but anyway, it's a pleasure to have
him on. I appreciate what Turning Point Action is doing. Again.
This event is called All In for Indiana. I'm looking
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here at the digital flyer. It says, tell the State
Senate to redistrict, join us up, Join us for a
community gathering as we call on the state State Senate
to support President Trump's America First Agenda and fair maps
for Indiana. That's Friday, December fifth, at noon. If you
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can make it, it's at the State House. It's right
downtown two hundred West Washington. You know where the State
House is, but two hundred West Washington Street. You can
RSVP by going to their website tpaction dot com slash
Rally Indiana. I'll put all this all these links in
our show notes as well. I know it's hard to
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over the past couple of months of we as we've
expanded the team and just kind of gotten better at this.
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now just me in a digital microphone, and so now
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that anyway, tpaction dot com, slash Rally Indiana more. Some
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Do you need anything else for me? Well, During that conversation,
Brett asked me, He said, would you want to come speak?
That's at this event and it's short notice. I know
this is the nature of these things. It's it's short notice.
So there's a potential. I'm not telling you here now
that I'll be there on Friday, because just with my schedule,
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I've got if I can even make that work. But
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I do know that if you can make it, this
is important. This issue is one that is going to
determine a lot of things. This issue of redistricting. It's
going to determine a lot of things for the future
of this country, and it's important that we do what
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we can. He mentioned he gave a list of senators,
which I knew the primary problem was in the Senate.
I didn't know if it was if there was any
opposition or problem in the House. I'd always heard about
the Senate. But anyway, this is you can call your senators.
That's a good option as well. I'll put that'll be
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something we put on the stack of stuff page as well.
Maybe we'll even post that. There might be a little
bit more work for my team and I today, just
to get you the information out so that you can
do with it what you will, whatever you can do.
You know this, this is I think one of the
challenges or I don't know if challenge is the word,
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but one of the things that when you get to
positions of leadership you have to understand that, first of all,
Conservatives are people who are working. Conservatives are people who
make this country work. You're the ones out there that
are providing the goods and services. You're you know, many
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entreprene neural people. If you're not entrepreneurial you're the most
reliable worker, one of them, one of the most reliable
workers at your company. You're you're involved in your church's ministry.
You're just you're doing things. You're doing things that make
this place better. And I know, listen, I understand there's
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a lot of things that vie for space on your calendar,
and it may be impossible. Like I said, if I
can go speak on Friday, I will. I'll do that.
If I can't, then I you know, it's sometimes it's
just not possible, right, So but I'll tell you this.
We all have a role. And that's something the older
I've gotten, the more I seem to understand that I
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think back to, you know, even even to the days
playing football in high school in college. You know, each
I played defense. I was a cornerback in college. High school,
I was a safety, cornerback and quarterback. We played offense
back when I played. You played both ways, and I
loved it and didn't want to come off the field.
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But each position had its own role, right, And you
need different skill set at different positions. And of course
you always understand the position that you play the best.
You always understand if you're a wide receiver, I've got
to be able to catch the football. But if I'm
a right guard, I don't necessarily need to be able
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to do that unless I play for Mike Vrabel or
something and they put me out on a tackle eligible
play or some such thing, and I'm catching touchdown passes
every once in a while. But you know, different skills,
different skills plug in differently. We all are unique. But
what matters is that we're all doing whatever parts, whatever
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piece of that overall operation. We're doing our thing. If
you speak, then go speak. If you can call your senator,
call your senator. If you can get onto Facebook, you
have a following there, maybe you have a blog. I
don't know. I mean, some of the things you all
do in this audience, some of the things I've seen
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you do, I've heard about. It's remarkable some of the
stuff you've got going on. And you wear a lot
of hats. I get it. I get it. Listen. I've
I coach two basketball teams right now for my youngest daughter.
We had practice. Of course, they've canceled it here because
of the snow the last two days, but you know,
I think we had practice four days a week. In
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games two days a week. So six out of seven
days we're doing that, and I love it. And there's
a time that I won't be able to do it again, right,
and that is that's the same with this. Though the
same with this. There won't always be an opportunity to
once these votes happen between now and Monday, you won't
be able to go back. You won't be able to
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go back in and fix it, won't You won't be
able to make that phone call because it won't matter
come Monday, and this is going to be tight. I
don't I don't know the outcome. I don't know the outcome.
All I know is that there's a lot of opposition
to this at the State House. At least, there's a
lot of loud people. There's a lot of either unprincipled
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people who aren't conservative that are Republicans in the state,
but they're on the fence. Ultimately, if they know that
they've upset the voter, the constituent, if they know that
they're being held accountable by you, then they look at
this a little bit differently. They don't want to be
voted out of office. They don't want to be voted
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out of office. They don't want to have angry constituents.
But when it comes to a contentious issue like this,
somebody's going to be upset. You got to make a decision.
Someone has to win this battle, which I'll talk about
on the other side of the break. I'm just out
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have someone. Someone is gonna have to win this fight
in this country. You know. One of the things that
is maddening. I did the Todd Talk a little bit
on this today. Under the Biden administration, four million illegal
aliens were reportedly given Social Security numbers. And as I
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thought about just illegal aliens, I thought about just the
open borders that we had in this country. Make no mistake,
we practically had open borders in all in all reality,
that's what we had. It was shut down virtually overnight
when Trump came into office. It's remarkable. People will deny this,
but the evidence is there for anybody who wants to
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see the truth. Now. Listen, I'm not against people immigrating
to this country. I think that that's a good thing.
But I'm When I was a kid, there was something
called assimilation, and that meant that there was something about
being American. You were accepting some ideals, American ideas, and
customs and to some degree the culture. It didn't mean
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that you had to abandon everything that was part of
your makeup and your history. That's not the case at all.
But there is something that's American, and there has to
be there has to be something that unifies the people
in a country. And when you have two truly diametrically
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opposed world views, you have one on the left that says,
I'm talking about the godless rapt I know that there's
people in between this. This is not a nice meet.
Everybody fits into one bucket sort of thing. But I'll
tell you this. When you elect one of these two
options to make laws for you and for the rest
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of society, you're empowering one of these two core principles
worldviews ideologies. On the left, we have a group of people,
a group of people who are what I refer to
as godless radical leftists. And I say that, hey, because
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many of them told me, yes, that's exactly what we are.
Thank you for properly acknowledging who we are. But to them,
government is God, the state is supreme. This is the home,
by the way of the communists, This is ultimately what
they wanted a classless statelesstet society, which of course is
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ironic because what they end up getting is an absolutely
out of control, all powerful state. But these are people
who believe government controls the answers to everything, has solutions
to everything, if we only give them more tax dollars,
if we only give up our freedoms. This is incompatible,
truly incompatible. Hear me say this, incompatible with liberty, truly people.
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If a political party embraces this ideology, it must be defeated.
This is what the Democrat Party has become today. Now
what's interesting is rank and file Democrats certainly don't all
fall into that bucket. In fact, I would say I
would say that a tiny portion of them do. But
when you elect people to represent the state of Indiana,
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just as an example, who are Democrats who then go
to Washington, d c. To elect leadership and to come
up with an agenda democratic national platform. That platform represents
the beliefs of the radical left. They've taken over. I'm
telling you, the National Party has been hijacked, taken over
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by these extreme, godless radical leftists. That's not a blanket
statement for all of them, but that's what this party
has largely become. And on the other side, you have
people who believe in Western civilization, who believe in traditional
classical liberalism, which that may shock some. I'm a classical
liberal in the sense that I believe an individual liberty.
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I believe in the autonomy of the individual. I believe
that we are given our rights by our creator. The
rights don't come they can't come from government. Government is
the problem, much many more times than it's ever the solution.
In fact, the government just has certain roles that it
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should be playing. Our founders went to great links to
kind of outline this for us in the Constitution. And
so you have these two die iometrically opposed world views
that really can't coexist in the sense of governance. You
can't have one side that says the state needs to
be doing everything and the other side that says the
state should be doing next to nothing. And what do
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you compromise. The state does half of things. That's still
not good. That's in the wrong direction, my friends, And
that's what we have today. In order for us to
win this fight, we have to win this battle along
the way. It is time for Indiana. It's a redistrict
and we have to use every legal, ethical, whatever tool
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at our disposal that has to be done, and hopefully
it will be done here between now and Monday. So folks,
I've got to go. Thank you for listening. Have a
great day. SDG.
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Speaker 2 (00:36):
All right, my friends, we're going to continue our conversation
today about redistricting in Indiana. And I know, listen, many
of you out there are not in this great state
of Indiana, but this impacts you as well. In fact,
this may be impacted your state specifically, as many states
have looked into redistricting, had the fight over redistricting, all
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of that stuff. But it definitely could impact who is
in Congress starting in twenty twenty seven after the twenty
twenty six midterms. And so today today we have a
special guest from Turning Point Action, which I'll get to
here in just a moment, going to talk about redistricting.
And they've got a rally down at the state House
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special guest on the phone, Brett gallas Chesky. He's the
National Enterprise director of Turning Point Action. Brett like to
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walk you into the program, My friend, how are you?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Thanks Todd, appreciate you having me on. This is great.
Looking forward to being an indie this week.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Well, that's fantastic, And I get the last name right first, Brett,
you did.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
It's a long and annoying Polish last name, not too
uncommon of a name that'll up in Wisconsin where I'm from,
huge Polish population.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Well, with my last name, you don't even have to
move your tongue. You can almost grump my last name out.
So that's a little bit different. But it's good to
have you on the program. So first thing I want
to talk to you about, Brett here is as we
get into this discussion on redistricting in your event here
on Friday at the State House, you're with Turning Point Action.
I know a lot of folks are familiar, of course
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with Charlie Kirk, and especially in the wake of that horrible,
horrific assassination that happened a couple of months back, they
might be familiar with Turning Point USA. Your Turning Point Action.
Help us understand the difference here between these sister organizations.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Sure, yeah, So Turning Point USA is what you typically
see online, the student arm of the Turning Point brand
and name. So anytime that you see those videos online
of Charlie Kirk doing those proved me wrong events on campus,
or the pictures of students tabling with the big government
sucks signs. That's all part of Turning Point USA. Turning
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Point USA is a five oh one C three nonprofit.
Turning Point Action is a five oh one C four.
So we're the political arm of that Turning Point apparatus.
We can endorse candidates, we can hold events and support
of a candidates. We can hold events and support of
certain initiatives, we can get more involved in the political grassroots.
(04:07):
Turning Point Action was founded in twenty nineteen, and that
was when I came on board with Turning Point Action
as a way to get more involved in statewide and
national elections going forward. So really the best way at
the end of the day, at the bottom line is
we helped Turning Point USA students take that leap from
being the conservative voices on their college campuses to being
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the conservative voices in their communities where it matters most,
in the conservative grassroots.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
And this is all, at a very basic level, part
of Charlie's vision for what needed to happen as we
fight this battle to win this battle for conservatism here
in this great nation.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
It was I mean, think about it ten years ago
when Charlie started turning Point USA out of his garage
in Illinois. There really was no youth field program that
existed at the time in the re Republican apparatus, and
Charlie recognized that and knew that it was more than
just putting bodies on the ground putting young people in
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the fight. It was about revamping the culture of this
young voting block and making sure that we don't make
the same mistakes that the Republican apparatus had been making
up until that point. Keep in mind, this was coming
off of now, like really in the thick of eight
years of Obama and a slide in conservatism, and really,
at the end of the day, when you are complacent,
you lose a lot of Republicans, including it, especially at
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that time in twenty fifteen, but you know, really more
so now, we have to recognize this in a state
like Indiana, have become complacent, and that's how we've gotten
into this redistricting pickle.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
That's right, it's become that's a great way to put it.
We have become complacent, and we've also become I know
we're a red state, but there are certainly a lot
of rhinos here in our state that I've had to
deal with. We won't necessarily get into that, but let's
talk redistricting here specifically. Explain for me. We talked about
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this on the program for a while, but explain from
your vantish point what's happening here and how this could
impact the larger picture, who controls Congress after the twenty
twenty six mid terms, what that could mean for this nation.
Just kind of paint the picture of what's at stake here.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Yeah, I think the mistake right now for people in
Indiana in particular, is that they are putting this into
the bucket of this is very much a local issue,
and that is actually farther from the truth than I
ever could imagine. It started as a local issue, it
has now turned into the national make or break issue
that will affect our ability to compete as Republicans at
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the national level going forward. Indiana is essentially the final
line of protection and making sure that Republicans retain the
House of Representatives next year. It's essentially the backstop now
and putting us in that best possible position. And it
very well could be that a select group of allegedly
Republican senators are going to be the reason that that
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doesn't happen, and we hand the house back to the
radical left and give AOC a lot Omar and all
those other leftist creeps that power. Again, it cannot happen.
Indiana cannot be the reason this happens. I hope it isn't,
and that's why we're fighting so hard for it.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
What's interesting to me is and I actually grew up
in a Union Democrat home. My dad was a Union representative.
I was raised in a Union Democrat home. But I
am by no anyway stretch matter form. I was not
raised in a liberal home, a leftist home. And the
people on the national level, when Democrats are elected locally
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in whatever state they're elected in to go represent them
in Congress or the Senate, they often elect leaders that
are at least liberal and oftentimes radical, extreme leftists who
hate this country as founded. And so I don't know
any I know there's some I certainly know statistically there
are some leftists in our state, but that is not
even use your Democrat values that's being represented on the
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national stage. Talk about that for a minute, if you would, Brett.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Yeah, I think you guys in Indiana are in a really,
really fortunate situation in comparison to someone like me in Wisconsin.
The political makeup of Indiana is so favorable because in
comparison to other Midwest states, certainly Illinois, but I'm talking
about in comparison to like other states next door, like
Ohio or Michigan, you guys are so conservative. You have
massive Republican majorities, you have Republican controlled everything. You have
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the unique advantage of having what I would consider a
relatively speaking, more conservative leaning metropolitan area in Indy, and
then in northwest Indiana that sprawl, the conservative sprawl, really
the conservative exodus out of the city of Chicago has
helped northwestern Indiana become more conservative. So, long story short,
Indiana is about as conservative as any other hard read
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state that comes to mind for people like Wyoming, Idaho, Alabama.
I mean, it's a top five Republican state. But unfortunately,
like what we're finding out is there is a force
that's dragging some Republican senators to the wrong side of
this make or break issue. A lot of it has
to do with the Mike Pence foothold still being very
strong in Indiana. You're starting to see what I call
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the horseshoe theory where you get Republicans and then the
far radical leftists on Twitter. They're locking arms and they're
going after this redistricting fight, and they're going after good
conservative activists. It's kind of wild what we're seeing right now. Indiana,
for all intensive purposes, is the center of the political universe.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Right now. It is the center of the universe when
it comes to this issue. It's critically important. I'm on
the phone here with Brett Gallischski. He is the National
Enterprise Director turning Point Action. So Brett, I'll tell you,
as a guy who's done this, I've followed politics for
g probably thirty years now. Was a political science major
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all these years ago at Butler I was. I had
those fights in the classroom back before they made movies
about that stuff, and had some problems with my professors
and all that sort of thing. But I'll tell you
that ten years ago, I don't know that I would
have been in favor of redistricting. This stuff gets very emotional.
I mean there's you know, there's already people at the
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state House that are doing the chance and all this
sort of stuff. I don't know if I would have
supported this ten years ago. But today I believe that
we're in a fight for the survival of the constitutional republic.
We've got a political party who's proven to us that
they are in favor of law fair. Whatever it takes
to stop Trump, I mean, it'll be endless investigations, It'll
be impeachment times ten, whatever you can imagine. It will
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probably be that and worse. So it's my position, And
tell me where you agree disagree here that conservatives have
to use every legal, ethical, moral tool at their disposal
to win this fight. I think this is one of
those tools. I guess respond to that.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Yeah, I agree wholeheartedly with you. Really like the knives
came out after California's proposition vote in November, So Republicans
currently have a six seat majority in the House, and
with Prop fifty passing in California, which was really just
a bleak night for Republicans all across the country that
election night, Gavin Newsom essentially scrapped now five plus Republican
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controlled seats. So with Indiana having an opportunity to go
from seven two to nine to zero, that could easily
be the make or break difference here. We could easily
be holding onto a one seat majority next.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Year after the midterms.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I have zero problem with the left going hard in
the paint in states that they have massive control in
like California, and I saw Massachusetts was doing that, and
Virginia is talking about this, and obviously you know next
door in Illinois, you guys know that they've manipulated the
maps and taken advantage of Republican controlled everything. I do
not have a problem with that, the maximizing your reach
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as long as Republicans do the same in the equivalent
states that we have that are about as hard read
as any other. And Indiana is kind of the epitome
of that. There's no reason, you, knowing the political makeup
and the historic kind of aura of Indiana, there's no
reason that it shouldn't be a nine to zero map.
And more so than that, from a cultural perspective, this
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is the time for Indiana to draw their line in
the sand and say we are doing a way with
the Mike Pence Republicans of old, and we in Indiana
are mega branded Trump Conservatives, and we want to reverse
course and we want to stop this in its tracks.
So Gavin Newsom and the radical leftists don't end up
looking like heroes going in the twenty twenty eight. Right now,
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we are setting the stage for Gavin Newsom to be
a hero.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
That's a terrifying thought. So, you know, I've I've let's
talk about some of the objectives, objections I should say
here that you may have heard. I've invited critics on
this program. Most folks don't want to come on here.
Bo Bye, who is running here as a Democrat. That's
a legacy Democrat name here in Indiana. His dad and
grandfather were politicians, governor, senator, that sort of thing. But
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Bobye came on and he talked about his opposition to this.
But you know, when you get down to it, Brett
is I mean, isn't it fair to say that it's
there's There's not a lot of meat to the opposition here.
This is a political process. It is legal for the
Republicans to do this. They're not violating the state constitution
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or statute. It is a constitutionally assigned responsibility from the
US Constitution for state legislatures to manage these sorts of things.
What's the real opposition to this?
Speaker 3 (13:39):
I have yet to Todd hear a compelling argument against
the nine to oho map. Every reason that I've heard
thus far, it's been so absurd. It's based on pettiness,
it's based on tyranny, it's based on self righteousness. I'll
give you an example. I mean, you guys know about
that Senator Boachek who's voting no because she doesn't particularly
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like the names that that President Trump was calling Tim
waltz Ter in the election. That's pettiness. We're finding out.
I had a lovely conversation with the GOP chairwoman in Indiana.
It's not her, but we're finding out that there are
high up party elected officials in the Indiana GOP that
are refusing to speak up against this. They're siding with
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the seven to two map, essentially going against Trump because
new district lines could mean that they won't be able
to represent their districts anymore. On the state Central Committee
for the GOP. That's how crazy this has gotten. I've
heard other reasons. I tweeted about this last night. There
is a Republican senator, a woman. I won't say her name,
well maybe I could, no, actually want you guys, can
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you guys can google this. I don't want her to
try and say that I, you know, talk badly about
her and create problems. But she she came out and
she started telling people this that she's a no, a
hard no on the nine to zero map because a
conservative activist group was sending text blasts out to voters
in her district encouraging them to call their senator and
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urge them to support and her grandson was one of
the ones that received the text blast. She does not
know how text blasts work. She thought the group was
only targeting her fourteen year old grandson and has been
telling people that with a straight face, you cannot make
this stuff up. It's the weirdest thing I've ever seen.
We're hearing that Dan Durnell, a senator from kind of
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that northwest part of Indiana, his legislative aids are telling
our activists on the phone that right now he's not
sure because he believes Republicans should win on policy when
literally right next door to his district, the left has
one on taking advantage of every single Democrat controlled apparatus
to manipulate the maps. So it's mind bothering to me.
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It's a head scratcher to me why we're not unified
on this, knowing that it's such a massive majority in
the state Senate.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
It unfortunately doesn't surprise me too much being one that
lives here. I'm you know, Eric Holcombe, who was our
previous governor, was not a conservative. We've got a senator
in the US Senate named Todd Young who's not a
conservative senator. I'm not saying they're leftist there, They're just
they're moderates right there. They're rhinos a lot of times.
(16:15):
And it's, uh, there has been a lot of that
that's crept into the party here in Indiana. But all
that being said, though, these uh the opposition that I've
heard is basically things like, this is cheating, this is
disenfranchising voters, this is you know, just creating an unfair
advantage for Republicans, and all this sort of stuff. I mean,
(16:38):
when it comes down to it, as far as I
see it, Brett, the Democrats want at least two representatives
to be Democrats, and Republicans want them all to be Republican.
And I just think it's it's political at its core.
Is there anything else to this besides that?
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Yeah, And I'm starting to believe this more and more
as the days go on and we get closer to
the weekend here. Believe at the end of the day,
for a lot of these senators, they still have a
subliminal hate towards Donald Trump, whether that be you know,
remnants of the Mike Pence, you know Trump conflict that
took place at the end of the first Trump administration,
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or you know, just kind of that deep embedded establishment
roots that a lot of these senators have. I believe
that they're still in some way or another, lashing out
at Trump and using these absurd reasons like like you
know again, like the Trump Callington Walt's names, like these
are just crazy reasons that make no sense for a
conservative to be saying. I think it's masking a much
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larger problem, and it's that the swamp runs deep in Indiana.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yeah, it does. That The voters, the constituents that represent
that elect these people to the state House, don't share
those Some certainly share those, share those sentiments, but many don't.
Many understand what you're saying, what I'm saying. They understand
that Republicans have played with the kid gloves on for
too long. Republicans have been bully and pushed around. It's
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interesting how the blue states in this country can have
districts that look truly that are gerrymander drawn to these
really odd shapes to get cities connected and so forth.
And that's okay. They can do that to the max,
but Republicans can't do anything whatsoever. These maps, by the way,
you can have problems with them, but they're not unreasonably drawn.
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They're continuous, contiguous. They're not oddly shaped and just massively
deformed like some of these other districts could be around
the country. But Republicans have this used against them too
many times, and I think we're sick of it. And
I think that's your rally this Friday may kind of
tap into a little bit of that. So talk to
(18:44):
me about what you're doing Friday at the State House.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
So we want to rally all of the Republican conservative
naga the base. We want to rally tons of freedom
loving patriots at the State House on Friday to send
that fine message kind of be the crescendo on all
of this that enough is enough. The conservative grassroots that
knocked doors till their knuckles bled to get these Republican
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senators elected, this is not why we work so hard
to get them elected. And for the Republican voter base,
the ones who took time and treasure out of their
days to vote for these Republicans. They don't want this either.
This isn't Indiana, this isn't conservatism, and enough is enough.
So we want to be able to send that gut punch.
We're really excited. We have Governor Mike Brown joining us,
(19:30):
We have Lieutenant Governor Micah Beckwith joining us. We have
some other awesome speakers, some really young, up and coming
super conservative freedom fighters in the General Assembly that are
coming to join us as well to really rally the
troops here and hopefully by kind of coming onto their territory,
coming into the Capitol and sending that message on the
last possible day for us to do that, Friday the
(19:52):
fifth and then Monday the eighth is when they vote
on this. We want to be able to say we
threw the kitchen sink at this thing. So if you're
listening to the program right now and you're available on
Friday afternoon, we want you there. We want you to
fight with us, we want you to make your voice heard.
This is Turning Point Action's very first ever event in
Indiana in our organization's history, and we want to start
(20:13):
it out with a bang, and we want to be
able to say that we change this thing for the
better and we changed history.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
So where do you think things stand right now? From
what you can can gauge, how how tight is this?
What's the likelihood that this passes? What do you think
is well, what's going to happen? What's your judgment on this?
Speaker 3 (20:35):
It's going to be tight. And again, we hope that
our rally at noon at the State House is really
the final punch here that really gets these senators across
the line. For those listening that are wondering where we're
at right now, these are the senators right now that
we believe have the most room to flip, and it's
absolutely imperative that we do get them to flip. So
(20:56):
if you have, if you're sitting in the car right
now listening to this, and you're in the district of
this person in Indiana, I want you to do us
a favor, and I want you to call that senator's
office between now and Monday and make your voice heard.
It's Dan Durnell, Rick Niemeyer, Ryan Mischler, Brian Bucannon, Blake Dorio,
(21:17):
Brett Clark, Greg Good and Linda Rogers. These are Republican
senators that have not come out and either opposed or
said that they're in favor of this. That makes no
sense and it's inexcusable right now at this point, they
are Republicans. They put the R next to their name.
In some cases they are in Trump plus twenty districts.
(21:38):
Brian Bucannan won by thirty nine points a couple of
years ago in his general race, and then last time
he didn't even have an opponent. These are safe Republicans.
They have no political revenge theories, revenge tactics to worry about.
They should be voting in favor of a nine to
ozho map. That's where we stand right now. If we
can just get half of that group to flip, we
(21:59):
will Okay, it'll be tight, but we will be Okay,
we just need those senators.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
I just have a little bit of time here before
we get to jump off of here. Are all? Is
all the problem in the Senate? Or is the House?
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Is it? Okay?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
There?
Speaker 2 (22:13):
What?
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (22:16):
It got out of committee in the House. Yeah, and
it's going to get voted today on the floor on
the House. We think that this will all be settled
by Friday. So yeah, we've never worried about the House.
That's that's the other mind boggling part to this. The
House will pass this with flying colors. It's just the Senate.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Well, very good, well, Brett, I appreciate you joining us.
Thank you very much. Keep up the hard work. I
appreciate it. And good luck on Friday.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Thanks Tod.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
One last thing for those that want to come, it's
noon on Friday at the Capitol. You can sign up
at tpaction dot com slash Rally Indiana. We hope to
see you there, all.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Right, Brett, I appreciate it. Brett gallas Cheski, he's the
National Enterprise Director, turning point Action folks. I got to
wrap up this segment back in just a minute. Welcome back,
my friends. I hope you enjoyed that conversation that we
had there with Brett gallis Chewski. I'm proud of myself
(23:14):
forgetting the name right. Brett. As I told him on
the during the interview, you don't have to even open
your mouth to say my last name. You can grunt
it almost tough, but anyway, it's a pleasure to have
him on. I appreciate what Turning Point Action is doing. Again.
This event is called All In for Indiana. I'm looking
(23:38):
here at the digital flyer. It says, tell the State
Senate to redistrict, join us up, Join us for a
community gathering as we call on the state State Senate
to support President Trump's America First Agenda and fair maps
for Indiana. That's Friday, December fifth, at noon. If you
(24:04):
can make it, it's at the State House. It's right
downtown two hundred West Washington. You know where the State
House is, but two hundred West Washington Street. You can
RSVP by going to their website tpaction dot com slash
Rally Indiana. I'll put all this all these links in
our show notes as well. I know it's hard to
(24:25):
hear these things when you're driving by the way. That
goes for anything that goes for anything that we talk
about on this program. You can always go There's a
page called the Stack on our website. I've shared this
with you before, but that's where this stuff will be.
If it helps you. You can't remember all this stuff,
I get it. We'll put this link there for you
(24:48):
to register, but it's just go to Todd Huffshow dot
com and if you go to the Stack, each episode
has a full description. It's got links to things that
we would have talked about on the program. We've really
kind of cleaned that up and streamlined streamline that here
over the past couple of months of we as we've
expanded the team and just kind of gotten better at this.
(25:08):
Remember I started this program in a closet ten years ago,
now just me in a digital microphone, and so now
we've got some folks helping with that, helping out with
that anyway, tpaction dot com, slash Rally Indiana more. Some
concluding concluding thoughts on this conversation I had with with
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we were getting I as we left the air, so
to speak, and I always hang around and thank the
guests for a moment, say hey, I appreciate what you're doing.
(27:23):
Do you need anything else for me? Well, During that conversation,
Brett asked me, He said, would you want to come speak?
That's at this event and it's short notice. I know
this is the nature of these things. It's it's short notice.
So there's a potential. I'm not telling you here now
that I'll be there on Friday, because just with my schedule,
(27:46):
I know, some people think, hey, this guy, you know,
you get on the show for an hour a day
and then you go play golf. That's not exactly what
happens here. There's a whole lot more that actually, a
whole lot more that happens here behind the scenes. In fact,
this is sometimes, oftentimes the easiest part of my day
(28:06):
is coming on here and talking with you. It's the
part that definitely I love the most, that sometimes comes
the most natural to me. But that happened, so I
don't know. Maybe we'll be doing that. I'll talk with
Oz here once we and I'll look at my schedule
to see. I honestly don't know at the moment what
I've got if I can even make that work. But
(28:28):
I do know that if you can make it, this
is important. This issue is one that is going to
determine a lot of things. This issue of redistricting. It's
going to determine a lot of things for the future
of this country, and it's important that we do what
(28:54):
we can. He mentioned he gave a list of senators,
which I knew the primary problem was in the Senate.
I didn't know if it was if there was any
opposition or problem in the House. I'd always heard about
the Senate. But anyway, this is you can call your senators.
That's a good option as well. I'll put that'll be
(29:17):
something we put on the stack of stuff page as well.
Maybe we'll even post that. There might be a little
bit more work for my team and I today, just
to get you the information out so that you can
do with it what you will, whatever you can do.
You know this, this is I think one of the
challenges or I don't know if challenge is the word,
(29:38):
but one of the things that when you get to
positions of leadership you have to understand that, first of all,
Conservatives are people who are working. Conservatives are people who
make this country work. You're the ones out there that
are providing the goods and services. You're you know, many
(29:59):
entreprene neural people. If you're not entrepreneurial you're the most
reliable worker, one of them, one of the most reliable
workers at your company. You're you're involved in your church's ministry.
You're just you're doing things. You're doing things that make
this place better. And I know, listen, I understand there's
(30:20):
a lot of things that vie for space on your calendar,
and it may be impossible. Like I said, if I
can go speak on Friday, I will. I'll do that.
If I can't, then I you know, it's sometimes it's
just not possible, right, So but I'll tell you this.
We all have a role. And that's something the older
I've gotten, the more I seem to understand that I
(30:42):
think back to, you know, even even to the days
playing football in high school in college. You know, each
I played defense. I was a cornerback in college. High school,
I was a safety, cornerback and quarterback. We played offense
back when I played. You played both ways, and I
loved it and didn't want to come off the field.
(31:03):
But each position had its own role, right, And you
need different skill set at different positions. And of course
you always understand the position that you play the best.
You always understand if you're a wide receiver, I've got
to be able to catch the football. But if I'm
a right guard, I don't necessarily need to be able
(31:24):
to do that unless I play for Mike Vrabel or
something and they put me out on a tackle eligible
play or some such thing, and I'm catching touchdown passes
every once in a while. But you know, different skills,
different skills plug in differently. We all are unique. But
what matters is that we're all doing whatever parts, whatever
(31:46):
piece of that overall operation. We're doing our thing. If
you speak, then go speak. If you can call your senator,
call your senator. If you can get onto Facebook, you
have a following there, maybe you have a blog. I
don't know. I mean, some of the things you all
do in this audience, some of the things I've seen
(32:06):
you do, I've heard about. It's remarkable some of the
stuff you've got going on. And you wear a lot
of hats. I get it. I get it. Listen. I've
I coach two basketball teams right now for my youngest daughter.
We had practice. Of course, they've canceled it here because
of the snow the last two days, but you know,
I think we had practice four days a week. In
(32:28):
games two days a week. So six out of seven
days we're doing that, and I love it. And there's
a time that I won't be able to do it again, right,
and that is that's the same with this. Though the
same with this. There won't always be an opportunity to
once these votes happen between now and Monday, you won't
be able to go back. You won't be able to
(32:49):
go back in and fix it, won't You won't be
able to make that phone call because it won't matter
come Monday, and this is going to be tight. I
don't I don't know the outcome. I don't know the outcome.
All I know is that there's a lot of opposition
to this at the State House. At least, there's a
lot of loud people. There's a lot of either unprincipled
(33:15):
people who aren't conservative that are Republicans in the state,
but they're on the fence. Ultimately, if they know that
they've upset the voter, the constituent, if they know that
they're being held accountable by you, then they look at
this a little bit differently. They don't want to be
voted out of office. They don't want to be voted
(33:38):
out of office. They don't want to have angry constituents.
But when it comes to a contentious issue like this,
somebody's going to be upset. You got to make a decision.
Someone has to win this battle, which I'll talk about
on the other side of the break. I'm just out
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a comment. I said that this we're gonna have to
(35:24):
have someone. Someone is gonna have to win this fight
in this country. You know. One of the things that
is maddening. I did the Todd Talk a little bit
on this today. Under the Biden administration, four million illegal
aliens were reportedly given Social Security numbers. And as I
(35:47):
thought about just illegal aliens, I thought about just the
open borders that we had in this country. Make no mistake,
we practically had open borders in all in all reality,
that's what we had. It was shut down virtually overnight
when Trump came into office. It's remarkable. People will deny this,
but the evidence is there for anybody who wants to
(36:08):
see the truth. Now. Listen, I'm not against people immigrating
to this country. I think that that's a good thing.
But I'm When I was a kid, there was something
called assimilation, and that meant that there was something about
being American. You were accepting some ideals, American ideas, and
customs and to some degree the culture. It didn't mean
(36:31):
that you had to abandon everything that was part of
your makeup and your history. That's not the case at all.
But there is something that's American, and there has to
be there has to be something that unifies the people
in a country. And when you have two truly diametrically
(36:53):
opposed world views, you have one on the left that says,
I'm talking about the godless rapt I know that there's
people in between this. This is not a nice meet.
Everybody fits into one bucket sort of thing. But I'll
tell you this. When you elect one of these two
options to make laws for you and for the rest
(37:15):
of society, you're empowering one of these two core principles
worldviews ideologies. On the left, we have a group of people,
a group of people who are what I refer to
as godless radical leftists. And I say that, hey, because
(37:40):
many of them told me, yes, that's exactly what we are.
Thank you for properly acknowledging who we are. But to them,
government is God, the state is supreme. This is the home,
by the way of the communists, This is ultimately what
they wanted a classless statelesstet society, which of course is
(38:02):
ironic because what they end up getting is an absolutely
out of control, all powerful state. But these are people
who believe government controls the answers to everything, has solutions
to everything, if we only give them more tax dollars,
if we only give up our freedoms. This is incompatible,
truly incompatible. Hear me say this, incompatible with liberty, truly people.
(38:27):
If a political party embraces this ideology, it must be defeated.
This is what the Democrat Party has become today. Now
what's interesting is rank and file Democrats certainly don't all
fall into that bucket. In fact, I would say I
would say that a tiny portion of them do. But
when you elect people to represent the state of Indiana,
(38:47):
just as an example, who are Democrats who then go
to Washington, d c. To elect leadership and to come
up with an agenda democratic national platform. That platform represents
the beliefs of the radical left. They've taken over. I'm
telling you, the National Party has been hijacked, taken over
(39:09):
by these extreme, godless radical leftists. That's not a blanket
statement for all of them, but that's what this party
has largely become. And on the other side, you have
people who believe in Western civilization, who believe in traditional
classical liberalism, which that may shock some. I'm a classical
liberal in the sense that I believe an individual liberty.
(39:32):
I believe in the autonomy of the individual. I believe
that we are given our rights by our creator. The
rights don't come they can't come from government. Government is
the problem, much many more times than it's ever the solution.
In fact, the government just has certain roles that it
(39:52):
should be playing. Our founders went to great links to
kind of outline this for us in the Constitution. And
so you have these two die iometrically opposed world views
that really can't coexist in the sense of governance. You
can't have one side that says the state needs to
be doing everything and the other side that says the
state should be doing next to nothing. And what do
(40:14):
you compromise. The state does half of things. That's still
not good. That's in the wrong direction, my friends, And
that's what we have today. In order for us to
win this fight, we have to win this battle along
the way. It is time for Indiana. It's a redistrict
and we have to use every legal, ethical, whatever tool
(40:36):
at our disposal that has to be done, and hopefully
it will be done here between now and Monday. So folks,
I've got to go. Thank you for listening. Have a
great day. SDG.
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