Shutdown Standoff, TPUSA Pushback, and Katie Porter Walkout (Almost)

Day nine of the government shutdown and the stalemate is getting messier. Todd breaks down why Senate Democrats keep blocking a “clean CR,” what that really means, and why Trump’s talk of federal reductions-in-force is suddenly on the table. Then we turn to campus speech wars: a Change.org petition targets the Turning Point USA chapter at Rutgers, accusing it of “hate speech”—Todd explains what’s actually at stake and shares a personal story about hearts changing after Charlie Kirk’s assassination. Finally, California Rep. Katie Porter melts down in a local TV interview, bristling at basic follow-ups while running for governor.

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there's days I need it. There are days I'm kidding, folks,
I am teasing. Take it easy. It's good to be
here today. A couple of things I want to get to.
I'm going to give you an update. We're on day
number nine of the government shut down. I also want

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to talk a little bit about what's happening at regarding
Turning Point USA chapters. You may have seen this. There's
one in particular, I think it's at Rutgers University. There's
a petition to try to keep Turning Point from having
a chapter at Rutgers University. I want to talk about that.

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I want to share a short story of something that
a conversation that I had had just to my own
personal life journey here with somebody that is relevant to
this conversation and time permitting, time permit, I would like
to I don't know if you know who Katie Porter is.
Katie Porter representative leftist, angry, very angry leftist representative from

(02:11):
the People's Republic of California. She's running for governor. I
don't know if you've seen this interview controversy. I'm going
to try to get to it, time permitting, but she can't.
It's absolutely unbelievable to watch it the way that she
didn't want to answer a reporter's question, who, by the way,

(02:33):
was not being provocative. Listen. I know the media is
a hot mess, my friends, but this particular media reporter,
representative of the media, whatever I don't know who she is.
She's on a local I think it was CBS station
in the People's Republic of California. She was being I mean,
I think, really doing actual journalism, and Katie Porter shut

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down the interview because she didn't like the question. She
didn't like follow up question riests. She wanted to know
what the questions were. It sounded like, which is par
for the course. I mean, that's what happens. The media
is not afraid to give Democrats those questions. We've seen
this with Hillary and the debates and so forth. Anyway,
time permitting, I'll get to that as well, my friends,

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All right, let's get here a quick updates and this
isn't going to take I think the whole first segment,
I don't think. So we'll see an update on the

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government shutdown. The Democrats in the Senate have refused yet
again to vote for a clean continuing resolution. We are
on day number nine of the Chuck Schumer government shutdown.
So the shutdown, of course, began at midnight the morning
of October first. Here we are October ninth. Congress failed

(05:37):
to a pass failed to pass the appropriate well the
necessary appropriations bills. That means that currently approximately eight hundred
thousand federal employees are furloughed. They are some are working
without pay. Now according to law, they're going to get pay,

(05:58):
but the or the temporarily temporarily laid off or working
temporarily without pay. But Trump says, and he said that
I've mentioned this before, Democrats better be careful here how
far they want to push this continue into this abyss
of a shutdown. Donald Trump has said that if Democrats

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continue to block this, continue to block just the reopening
of it. So again, a clean resolution, a clean CR,
which means it's a continuing resolution that funds the government
for a specified period of time. A clean CR means
that there's nothing else in there. It's basically saying, let's

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keep the status quo until the next deadline, which currently
as I understand it, it was initially anyway meant to
be November twenty first, right before Thanksgiving, So I think
that's still the date. I don't know, but the Democrats
have refused to sign on to that, which makes no
sense now there out there spinning it. They're out there

(07:02):
trying to have some sort of find some sort of
traction in today's news narrative. They have suffered tremendously losses
all over the place, political losses, messaging losses. I mean,
I don't The Democrat Party is in absolute disarray right now.
So they're looking for a victory here. They think that

(07:22):
they might have it with the shutdown. They think that
they can blame the Republicans, but they're the ones that
are blocking simply an extension of the status quo, no
more changes. We can continue negotiations between reopening the government
and the new deadline, but they don't even want to
do that, and that's not an exercise of good faith,

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right you know? This is I shared on here. I
told you my son, who's now sixteen, by the way,
has his driver's license now, so watch out world. Actually
he's a very he's a kid, but he's very he's
very cautious driver so far, at least with mom and

(08:07):
dad in the car. Hopefully it stays that way. He's
got more of a cautious personality too. But he's got
his driver's license. Now that's an eye opening thing. In fact,
they got it yesterday. My wife took him and she
sent me a picture of him with it, and I
started realizing, Oh, so now he's able to just get
in the car and go. It took me a second
to kind of wrap my head around that. But anyway,

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that's where we're headed here. But I remember a couple
of months ago he had it's been longer than that,
probably a year or so, he had asked me to
kind of explain what politics was. And I thought about
it for a moment. I've shared this on here before,
and I said, you know what I said. Politics is

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the art of taking credit for everything that's good or
everything that you're the person that you're talking to a
constituent might think is good in the world around them,
and then blaming your political opponents for the things that
are bad. Now that's a cynical view of it, I understand,
But that is the art of pity. It's about art

(09:14):
of politics. It's about jockeying for position. Now I would say,
if you're being genuine and authentic and fighting for what
you truly think is makes the most sense, then that's okay.
I don't have a problem with that to a point.
I also would throw a little humility in there, and
that's one of the things. By the way, earlier this week,
we spoke with Shelby Campbell, who had some really terrible

(09:36):
things to say about Charlie Kirk's assassination. She has apologized.
I commended her for that, I committed her for coming
on the program. I'm sorry I was wrong. I apologize.
Those are words that don't come from the lips of
politicians very much, because it is a blame game. It's
a grab the credit game for things that are going well.

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It's a blame game for things that are not going well.
And that's what politics has become. And so that's what
the Democrats are looking for here. You know, too many people,
too many people are still i would say, a half
step away from really understanding what's going on in our

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nation's capital. In politics in general, it's all about the credit. Again.
I've cited a quote from the office Michael Scott when
he's got in trouble for the Willy wonka golden ticket
idea that he implemented in the office. Long story short,
he put all the tickets on one discount tickets on

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one pallette of boxes that were going to a client.
A client got all of the boxes the client. There
was nothing on the coupon that said you couldn't combine
the coupon, so the biggest client ended up getting a
fifty percent discount or some such thing, and this caused
havoc in the office. The boss came into the office

(11:01):
to talk with Michael about this. In the meantime, Michael
begged one of his team members named Dwight K. Shret
to take the fall, and Michael was trying to push
the blame on him. But in the meantime, in the meantime,
the company was so happy. The client was so happy

(11:22):
that they got so much of a discount on their
paper goods that they decided to move all of their
purchases of office products to the company as well. So
Michael ended up by making Dwight the scapegoat. Dwight ended
up being the hero. This caused a big brew ha
ha in the office. Michael wasn't happy. Michael eventually couldn't

(11:45):
keep his mouth shut, and he said, David, I'm the
one that had the idea. And David says, Michael, I
don't know what you want me to do. And Michael
says this. He says, David, I will be honest with you.
I would like all of the credit, but none of
the blame. That I am telling you that is politics.
And I listen, I'm not saying there's nothing else that's

(12:05):
genuinely happening there, but that is a big, big part
of it. And too many people missed that step, misunderstanding
that by half a step. They think that these folks
are fighting for their cause. They think that these folks
are committed, and sometimes they are. But how many times,
my friends, I'll ask you this, how many times have
you and I voted for someone, had high hopes for someone,

(12:30):
only to watch that someone go to Washington, d c.
And effectively sell his or her soul. I've said before
this was the reason Trump became so well, there's many reasons,
but one of the main reasons Trump, or two of
the main reasons that Trump became so popular, was because
we as conservatives, as conservative Republicans, were tired of voting

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for people that really weren't principled conservatives. And I'm not
saying Trump is a ideological conservative, but the things Trump
wants to do, at least the first five hundred things
on the list are in good alignment with conservatism and
the role of government and so forth. But how many
times did we elect people who went to Washington, DC

(13:13):
that showed us they really weren't conservative, or maybe they
were conservative, but they were whips. They couldn't take the heat.
What do they say, if you can't stand the heat,
get out of the kitchen. And well, on this analogy,
the Washington the kitchen is Washington, DC. And it was disheartening.
It was disheartening. Along comes Trump, and I don't want
to do this whole thing on Trump, but Trump comes

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along and changes that. The guy actually means what he says.
He's fighting. Look, you look at all the fights over
the National Guard and deportations and everything, lawsuits and this
and that, Supreme Court hearings and court rulings, injunctions, the
constant fight about simply trying to enforce the law. Right

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at the core of this is that we've had leaders
in our government. We've had an executive branch for a
long time that did not want to enforce immigration law,
and the left and the media have basically excused that
the laws that are being enforced today, I've been on
the books for a long time. They've just been ignored

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and we were lied to. We were lied to by
the Biden administration, we were lied to by the media.
Biden could have done any of these things he didn't
want to, which of course begs the question as to
why what's he trying to accomplish? Why is he so
he And the left, by the way, Democrats in general,
why are they so insistent on open borders? What are

(14:38):
they trying to get from that? It's obviously has to
do with elections. By the way, there's a court case
that the Supreme Court is hearing today Louisiana versus Calais
or Calais that has to do with the way that
voting that congressional districts can be drawn. And I talked
about it in the Todd Talk. I'm not going to
talk about it here, but anyway, so we've got this

(15:02):
battle that's going on in Washington, DC, and we have
some principled stands that are being taken, and we have
some political drama that is unfolding, and right now the
Democrats are engaging in political drama, political theater, and it's
bad political theater at that. If you dig just half

(15:22):
an inch deep, you'll find that their entire argument unravels completely.
There is no reason whatsoever that they should not sign
on to this clean CR by themselves more time, but
they don't want to do that. This shutdown is on them,
my friends, they refuse to sign up sign on to
this obviously common sense next step, which is to pass

(15:45):
a clean CR, reopen the government, and negotiate between now
and the time the next CR expires, which is honor
about November twenty first. Now, in the meantime, President Trump
has come out here and said something that we've mentioned
on on this program. I told you to keep your
eyes out open for this. President Trump said that the
Democrats continue to block this from happening. Furloughed positions could

(16:09):
become rift positions, reduction in force, reducing permanently the size
and scope of government. Remember, one of the issues here
that Trump has had to deal with is that if
budgets are passed by Congress, he's basically being forced to
spend the money allocated for staffing and so Trump's saying, look,

(16:35):
if there's no budget right now, there's no money that's
being spent, so technically, technically he can rift now. Listen,
there'll be lawsuits and all this sort of stuff. Labor unions,
legal experts are going to fight against this, or I
should say that there will be a legal fight. Legal

(16:55):
experts are predicting this if if this goes to this.
But there's going to be fight about these terminations if
it comes to that, because they say that it violates
civil service protections and it's going to create lawsuits. But
Trump's saying, look, we'll just take these positions. If you're
gonna if you're not gonna come to the table, if
you're not going to reopen the government and enter into

(17:17):
good faith negotiations, then right now, budgets are zero. I
don't have any money that I'm supposed to spend. We're
going to start permanently reducing the size and scope of government. Now,
the question is whether Trump is just negotiating with that
threatening to do that, or whether or not this is real.
And I gotta be honest, this is the thing that
people on the left don't give Trump enough credit for.

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I could be convinced of either of these things. He
is negotiating. I think that that's clear. But I also think,
I mean, he's serious about reducing the size and scope
of government. And if they don't think he would seriously
do that, I think they should reconsider that because I
think he very well could do that. So we'll see

(18:01):
where this goes. The Office of Management and Budget omb
they've already instructed agencies, as we talked about earlier this week,
to prepare for rift plans, reduction enforced plans, and so
but as of today, that's not happened. That's just been
kind of put out there as a bargaining negotiating ship.
So that's where we stand. But the government's closed negotiations

(18:24):
are going nowhere. In fact, there's really no negotiations whatsoever.
Republicans say, we can negotiate once you reopen the government
and just continue the status quo, no new changes, nothing
changing from when the government shut down until now, extending
that through the deadline through November twenty. First the Democrats refused,

(18:46):
refuse to do this, So we'll see where this goes.
See where this go, my friends. But that's where we
get that's where we that's where we are now. I'll
say this that the left, when it comes to these rifts,
they say that the firings would politicize the civil service,
would punish ordinary families, violate employment protections offered through well

(19:12):
through the wall. That's their argument. Trump says that, you know,
the folks that are on the side of Hey, if
we have to do these rifts, it's bloated, the government
has bloated. We need some accountability, I've been saying, and
we're going to do this for a while. You've right
now we have no budget. If the only thing keeping
me from riffing these positions are that I'm supposed to

(19:34):
spend the money that's been allocated. There's no money allocated
right now because you clowns can't get to the table
and negotiate. And so maybe I'll do that. Trump would say,
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I want to go? And I'm gonna set this up.
I'm gonna flip. I didn't know how I was going
to address this. I have two of the things I
want to get to, but I definitely want to turn
our focus to Turning Point USA. Turning Point USA, this

(21:23):
is what we're gonna get to next segment. I just
have a minute or so here kind of to tee
this up for the next segment. So Turning Point USA,
of course, is the result of Charlie Kirk's work. It's
Charlie Kirk's creation, and the Michigan of Turning Point was
to get in front of these young people in environments
where they were being force fed wokeism and leftist lunacy

(21:47):
and confront them with truth and give them the opportunity
to hear things that they candidly don't hear on college campuses.
And they've grown. They grew a lot during Charlie Kirk's life,
but the growth has even exploded since his assassination. Here
that's almost a month ago, a month ago tomorrow, if

(22:11):
I'm not mistaken here tenth. Yeah. So in the month
following his death, there's been a lot of interest in
places that are adding Turning Point USA and so forth.
A lot of chapters are being started high schools, colleges
around the country, and so the left is also trying

(22:32):
to fight against this. The left doesn't want these ideas
on college campuses. The left doesn't want free speech and debate.
The left doesn't want the free exchange of ideas. They
want to silence Turning Point USA. And there's a petition
that's being signed at Rutgers are pertaining to the students
at Rutgers University that I want to talk about regarding
the Turning Point USA chapter there, and we'll get out

(22:53):
of that in the next segment. My friends, set tight.
You are listening here to the home of conservative not
better Talk. I'm your host, Todd huff Back in just
a minute. Welcome back, my friends. I'm going to talk
about Turning Point USA here. So there's a there's news

(23:14):
out there. A change dot org petition has been launched.
It was launched earlier this month to disband so this
was an existing chapter of Turning Point USA at Rutgers University.
The petition alleges, what's to say here, that the group

(23:35):
promotes quote, hate speech and fosters a hostile environment. As
of today, more than sixteen hundred people have signed this petition.
More than sixteen hundred people. I don't know if it
can be anybody. I don't know the rules for all
these petitions that turn change dot org, but there's sixteen

(24:00):
hundred that have signed this that are not in favor
of free speech that cannot apparently come to grips with
hearing ideas with which they do not agree. Now, of course,
Turning Point denies all these claims. They don't engage in
hate speech. They say that the petition is defamatory, which
it is, and politically motivated, which it also is. Again,

(24:24):
I listen to this on a regular basis. I hear,
you know, I post videos clips of this show on
social media. We do that. I hear from people saying
that the left loves to have debate, Well why don't they?
Why do they always do things that interfere with that.
See now they'll say, well, you're engaging in hate speech.

(24:44):
First of all, what does that even mean? Number one?
Number two, Listen, as I said yesterday, right when I
had that interview with Shelby Campbell on Monday, who has
said some things about Charlie Kirk on social media. She's apologized,
but she's one of many, and she, by the way,
she said a lot less offensive things than some people

(25:06):
out there, but she was mocking Charlie Kirk's death. She
was mocking his death, and I don't know it's that
they they behave like this and they say a lot
of allegations. She said on the program. I didn't catch

(25:28):
this in real time because I hadn't heard this before.
Some of you got upset with me for not questioning
her on it. Two things. Number One, it's a I
don't want it to become a screamfest. Number Two, I
didn't catch it. I didn't know that these that there
were people out there that had accused Charlie Kirk of

(25:50):
being a well of using the fray a term c
chi and K to describe someone she said who was
Asian in the audience. He was talking to Jank Yuger,
which I went through that earlier, I think yesterday before
we interviewed Eric Trump talking about all the ways that

(26:11):
conservatives and Trump are maligned and misrepresented. We went through
a lot of those things yesterday on the program before that,
before that interview. But that's how the left wants to
engage now. Listen, it's a permanent olive branch. If you
decide to totally sell out and become a radical leftist,
and you suddenly have no interest in free speech. If

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you want to silence the political opposition, if you want
to redefine morality, if you want to live a godless
belief system, I mean, you're free to do it, but
we're gonna have a hard time community. You and I
can talk so much as that's up to me, but
I've learned you don't want me to talk in return.
You don't want people like me to have our opinions,

(26:54):
to have our beliefs, and so you turn to these
sorts of tactics to try to silence and minimize or
eliminate the competition the other side of the argument, and
it's actually pretty pathetic. Rutgers has come out and said
that it supports free expression. Declined to comment specifically on this.

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Of course, it's student matters. No disciplinary action has been taken.
But in kind of response to the allegations here that
turning Point USA is hate speech, the things that they're saying,
number one, I would say, give me a specific explanation,
a definition what you're talking about. Number one. In fact,
if you listen to Charlie Kirk and I listen, I
am not an expert in everything Charlie Kirk said, and believed.

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But I have no reason, no reason to believe here
that Charlie Kirk had anything but a motivation of honestly
truth and love to share, and a passion to communicate
things so that these students are not caught up in
this godless radical leftism. I think that was Charlie Kirk's motivation.

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Charlie Kirk didn't hate them. Charlie Kirk hated bad ideas.
I hate bad ideas. Bad ideas can cause tremendous harm.
They have caused tremendous harm. We have a whole generation
of young people who believe that aborting a child is
no big deal. My body, my choice, and then they
suffer the consequences of that. They've been lied to and

(28:25):
deceived by people in the industry, by those who are
promoting an absolutely wicked and godless lifestyle. By the way,
even some of these so called churches are out there endorsing,
supporting this sort of stuff. You'll hear this sort of
thing coming from the Pulpits not of huge amounts of churches,
but of churches that have turned from the truth of

(28:48):
the Word and have started getting into well, the radical
left's worldview, which is not in alignment with biblical truth.
Charlie Kirk didn't hate anybody. He wanted people to hear that.
He wanted people to hear the message of the love
of Jesus Christ. And I have I have something to
share with you, and I'm gonna keep this anonymous because
i had a conversation with somebody yesterday. She was raised.

(29:12):
She told me this. She was raised by two atheists,
mom and dad, who were both atheists, who are both
well liberals or leftist potentially, I don't know precisely, but
they're very they're far left. And so she was. She

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was raised. This was a woman. She was raised by
people who were atheists. She said she had gone as
a kid to you know, maybe VBS or a Christian concert,
that sort of thing. And she told me this for
those who say that Charlie Kirk was not out there
from for my Christian brothers and sisters who don't believe.

(29:54):
Charlie Kirk was interested in sharing the Gospel and was
interested in people accepting Jesus. She told me that this.
You know, she's she's not a conservative. She know she's
she's left of sinner. She's not a radical leftist. She
may be slightly liberal. I don't know, but she's not.

(30:16):
She's someone that you can have a conversation with. And
she told me, you know that she this His death
has really bothered her. It caused her to start looking
into this. She's a she's a mom, she's got a
couple of kids, and you know, her kids are follow

(30:38):
this stuff. You know, they are aware of Charlie Kirk,
and she just wanted to understand what was why did
we get to this point?

Speaker 3 (30:45):
Right?

Speaker 2 (30:46):
And as she started consuming his content, she's like, you
know what, I agree with a lot of what he's saying.
And it's caused her to ask all sorts of questions,
which led her and I to have a conversation recently
where she we were asking about she was asking about
church and you know, her and her family might come
to church with us and so forth, which when do

(31:07):
they come with us or go somewhere else. That's not
really the point, But the point is. The point is
that to say that Charlie Kirk is out there engaging
or had engaged in hate speech at turning point, USA
is actively engaging in hate speech when ultimately they're pointing
people to the Cross of Christ. Is I is a major,

(31:30):
major stretch. My friends. She's searching, this young lady, searching
for a church community, and she's doing so because of
the just the evil that she has seen and the senselessness,
and then the the truth that she is hearing in

(31:54):
the message that was being proclaimed by Charlie Kirk. How
is that hate speech? How is it hate speech to
share the gospel? I understand. Jesus told us that the
world will hate you because at first it hates him, right,
it hates Jesus. The world is not very welcoming to
the message of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. But when

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it's received by those people, when it's received by people
who understand that they are loved by God, that their
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by the spirit, the Holy Spirit. So you know, we'll
see where this goes. I'm very encouraged, and I just
I think that that's a microcosm. I think that that
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like that, causing a sort of spiritual awakening which leads
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my friends. I am so very proud of myself today.
It's hard to get through all the stuff that I

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want to get to. Sometimes we have more to say
about things than I realize at first glance. And I'm
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let alone to be governor of the People's Republic of California.
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Build your legacy, secure your future. All right, man, I'm
proud of myself forgetting to this. So Katie Porter, Leftist
from California representative angry a lot, and you'll find that
in this interview. In fact, I don't know what this

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journalist does. There are people in the media who engage
in sophistry every day, who engage in political games every day.
This lady, this journalist, and I'm going to use the
word journalists because normally when talking about the media, I'll
say make believe journalists, because most of these folks are
not real journalists. She's actually showing me here she has

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an interest in journalism. So they have a governor's race
in California. This journalist has sat down with people who
are running, and I've asked the same exact questions that
she's asking. Katie Porter here, who's a lunatic in many ways,
she's the one. On election night, I think it was,

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or maybe it was the days after the election, she
came out and she said that she hasn't had at
the time a twelve year old daughter and she picked
her up, I think she said, from water polo practice,
and she said her daughter was crying and she said,
you know that something happened at practice, you know, did
you get hurt? Why you're crying? And her daughter said

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to her and I'm paraphrasing here. Mom, I'm crying because
if I get raped and pregnant, I can't abort my
baby now because Trump's president and this lunatic. I mean,
who who teaches their kids this day? I this is craziness.
To a kid doesn't just come up with that. They've

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been force fed this junk. Anyway, Sam, Katie Porter here,
I want you to listen to this. She gets upset
at this journalist for asking this question.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
Check this out, redistricting. What do you think of the
governor's plan?

Speaker 5 (37:22):
I support the governor's plan.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
What do you say to the forty percent of California
voters who you'll need in order to win, who voted
for Trump?

Speaker 5 (37:31):
How would I need them in order to win?

Speaker 6 (37:33):
So?

Speaker 4 (37:33):
Well, unless you think you're going to get sixty percent
of the vote, do you think you'll get sixty percent? All?

Speaker 6 (37:39):
Everybody who did not vote for Trump will vote for you.

Speaker 5 (37:41):
That's what you're in a general election? Yes, if it
is me versus a Republican, I think that I will
win the people who did not vote.

Speaker 6 (37:48):
For tru What if it's you versus another Democrat?

Speaker 5 (37:50):
I don't intend that to be the case.

Speaker 4 (37:52):
So how do you not intend that to be the case?
You do you are you going to ask them not
to run?

Speaker 5 (37:57):
No?

Speaker 3 (37:57):
No, I'm saying I'm going to build the support. I
have the support already in terms of name recognition, and
so I'm going to do the very best I can
to make sure that we get through this primary in
a really strong position. But let me be clear with you.
I represented Orange County. I represented a purple area. I
have stood on my own two feet and one Republican
votes before. That's not something that a candidate and this
race can say. If you're from a deep blue area,

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if you're from LA or you're from Oakland, you don't
have an.

Speaker 6 (38:21):
Experience that you don't need those Trump voters.

Speaker 5 (38:23):
So you asked me if I need them to win?

Speaker 6 (38:25):
So you don't.

Speaker 5 (38:26):
I feel like this is unnecessarily argumentative. What is your question?

Speaker 4 (38:30):
The question is the same thing I asked everybody that
this is being called the empowering voters to stop Trump's
power graph. Every other candidate has answered this question.

Speaker 6 (38:39):
This is not I support it.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
So and the question is what do you say to
the forty percent of voters who voted for Trump.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
Oh, I'm happy to say that it's the do you
need them to win part that I don't understand. I'm
happy to answer the ques answer the question is you
haven't written, and I'll answer.

Speaker 4 (38:53):
And we've also asked the other candidates do you think
you need any of those forty percent of California voters
to win?

Speaker 6 (38:59):
And you're saying no, you don't know.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
I'm saying I'm going to try to win every vote
I can. And what I'm saying to you is that.

Speaker 6 (39:06):
Well to those voters. Okay, so so you I don't
want to keep doing I don't want.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
To keep doing this, call it taking off or going
to do the interview with them?

Speaker 5 (39:15):
Not like this. I'm not not with seven follow ups
to every single.

Speaker 6 (39:17):
Question you ask every other candidates.

Speaker 5 (39:21):
I don't care.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
I want to have a pleasant, positive conversation every issue
on this list. And if every question you're going to
make up a follow up question, then we're.

Speaker 5 (39:30):
Never up question.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Guess journal.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
To do this before ever I have answer follow up.

Speaker 6 (39:41):
But every other candidate has done this, that's right.

Speaker 5 (39:43):
What part of I'm me I'm running for governor because I'm.

Speaker 4 (39:47):
Leaving answer questions from reporters. Okay, why don't we go
through I will continue to ask follow up questions because
that's my job as a journalist, but I will go
through if.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
You don't want to answer you why this other stuff
of hers.

Speaker 6 (40:01):
So nearly every legislative.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
I don't want to have an unhappy expert, and don't
be unhappy. I don't want this all on camera.

Speaker 6 (40:07):
I don't want that experience with you either.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
I would love to continue to ask these questions so
that we can show our viewers what every candidate feels
about every one of these issues that they care about.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Okay, I gotta stop it.

Speaker 4 (40:18):
There.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
There's twelve more seconds of this, but I'm just simply
out of time. She made it unhappy the journalist. Kudos
to her for holding her ground and doing what's right.
And by the way, Katie Porter told you, she told you,
I never had to do this before. Read your questions,
don't ask me follow up questions. I've never had to
do that before. Now she was saying, I never have
to had to leave an interview before. But why is

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she leaving for being answered or excuse me asked follow
up questions? What a baby unfit for office? I gotta
go SDG