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September 30, 2025 40 mins
YouTube just cut a $24.5 million settlement tied to its 2021 suspension of Donald Trump—yet the platform admits no wrongdoing and changes none of its policies. Todd unpacks what the payout actually signals about Big Tech’s power, the selective enforcement of “terms of service,” and why free speech principles keep getting stress-tested online. He revisits how conservative voices—including this show—were throttled over January 6 and COVID questions, and why relying on third-party platforms to reach your audience remains a risky bet.

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about today, I want to talk about this settlement between

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YouTube and Trump. I want to talk about this because
it's easy to forget, right, It's easy to forget where
we've been over the course of the past well you
can say ten years with Trump you can say ten years,
but it's easy to forget because the reason it's easy

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to forget for a lot of people, and I'm not
insulting anyone's intelligence, maybe some I'm kidding, but it's easy
to forget what we've been through because it is a
constant barrage. It never stops, ever ceases, it never slows.
In fact, it seems as though it's only getting more intense,

(03:06):
and that there are more things that are just crossing
the news cycle every day, crazy stuff. We've got a
looming government shut down, which time permitting. I want to
get to that as well, because that's an important discussion
to have. But I want to talk about this YouTube
thing because many of you, including myself, many of us

(03:28):
have been caught in this social media situation where they're
silencing conservatives or Republicans, however you want to frame and
discuss this. But there's a lot of that going on
out there, and a lot of us have been caught
up in the fray on that, and I have been

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as well. In fact, back in twenty twenty one, I've stopped.
I stopped putting our content on YouTube, put YouTube shorts
up because those, of course are usually I mean they're
around a minute or so. I think a YouTube short
now can be up to three minutes. I'm not sure.

(04:11):
I don't follow that stuff super closely, but I think
it can be. It's more than sixty seconds, I do
know that. But we put short clips up there to
promote the show and to reach an audience on YouTube.
But I'm a little gun shy. I'm gun shy to
put the whole program on YouTube. You know, you build
something on another platform and then you're at their well,

(04:35):
your content's there at their own whim. They can take
it down, put it up, hide behind their interpretation of
their terms in service, and then you're basically stuck not
being able to speak with your audience. I don't like that.
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to stay involved or directly to connect with us because
of these things that we've seen on platform like YouTube.

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So back in twenty twenty one, I had several YouTube
videos taken down because they referenced January sixth. If you
asked any questions about January sixth, if you voiced any
concern about the due process of January sixth defendants, if

(06:23):
you said anything besides Trump is a dictator who tried
to overthrow our government on January sixth, your video, in
my estimation and from my vantash point, was a risk
of being taken down. I've been remarkably consistent, as I
am with most things, my friends, We've been consistent here
about what we think about the January sixth situation. There

(06:46):
were things that happened on that day that should not
have happened. The people that broke crimes, no matter who
they are, should face the consequences for that. There were
other people that got swept into this. They had the
charges magnified, amplified. It was a the more defendants, the
more people that the left and the media could say
were part of this insurrection, the bigger the story to tell,

(07:11):
the more they can make it sound like we were
hanging by a thread on January sixth, twenty twenty one.
And you know, I've questioned that narrative from the very beginning.
Of course, you watch the videos. There's some troubling things, right,
There's some things that people clearly needed to be held
accountable for, But then there's other things that you see
and you think, what on earth is this person getting

(07:34):
in trouble for this? For they're ushered in the law
enforcement removed a barricade or opened a door some such thing,
and let people walk in to certain parts of the Capitol.
Now you might say you should have known you shouldn't
be there, But on the other hand, you could think
it is a public building. If the law enforcement are
welcoming me in, then apparently there's a reason I can

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be in there. Anyway. The bottom line is you couldn't
really say anything, raise any questions, have any concern about
January sixth. You had to dispair the narrative, which of
course we're never gonna do on here, and so as such,
I think we had a total of thirteen videos taken down.
I'd have to go back in the and take a
closer look, but I remember counting thirteen, and I don't

(08:19):
know that all of thirteen were related to January sixth.
I know many of them were. Some were possibly connected
with COVID as well. You know that that's right there
in the middle of the COVID nineteen situation. And I
had a lot of things to say about COVID nineteen.
You had a lot of questions to ask about COVID nineteen.
I asked in very very early stages. I remember talking

(08:40):
about the efficacy of masks because I had read a
study in the early days leading into COVID nineteen about nine,
I think it was not seven or nine previous studies
that were done regarding the spread it was a flu
But of the previous seven or nine stuff, I just
I can't rememb if it was seven or I think
it was nine. But of the previous nine studies that

(09:03):
I had read about that was kind of in this
one summary. Eight of the nine studies found that wearing
masks did not stop the spread of the flu virus.
In fact, one of them found it actually increased the
spread of the virus because people who wore masks were
more prone to touch their mask with their hands, thereby
getting more germs on their hands, thereby getting more germs

(09:26):
on other surfaces that they touched, or are the people
that they touched, And of course the people who got
in contact with germs that way would get the flu
virus as well. So I remember talking about those things
in the early days, asking questions, asking questions, why is
it six feet? Why can I wear my mask in
or had to wear my mask into a restaurant, but

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when I sit down, I can take it off. None
of this ever made sense to me. That's the kind
of stuff that platforms like YouTube, if they just decided
they didn't want you saying those things. They would take
it down now. So I've experience on a much smaller scale.
President Trump back in January of twenty twenty one, actually

(10:07):
had his account suspended by YouTube, citing quote here's the reason.
They gave a risk of incitement of violence. This was
in the wake of January sixth at the Capitol Building.
A few months later, in July of twenty twenty one,
Trump sued YouTube, Meta Twitter for alleging consensor censorship, can

(10:34):
censorship censorship of conservatives, and these platforms have settled with him.
I think Twitter, if I've got that in my notes here,
let me see. I think Twitter settled. I want to
say for ten million. YouTube excuse me, Meta settled, I
believe for twenty five and YouTube just settled, just settled

(10:59):
for twenty four and a half million dollars with Trump.
That's a twenty four and a half million dollar payout.
That means that the breakdown of that is twenty two
million goes to this is great. By by the way,
twenty two million goes to the Trust for the National Mall,
which is linked to Trump's White House ballroom project. So

(11:19):
they've got twenty two million for that project right there,
and another two and a half million was spent split,
i should say, among the ACU, Naomi Wolf, and other
individual plaintiffs who were a part of this suit. So
in addition to that, YouTube admits to no wrongdoing. They

(11:40):
make no changes to their policy. They just basically say,
to settle this, to put an end to this. Here's
twenty four and a half million dollars. Now pause all
of this. Pause all of this. I know, as a
regular normal person in our society, anytime you see a

(12:00):
large settlement by a corporation for a lawsuit, it can
be it's interesting to talk about him, to think about
I'm reminded of the lawsuit that McDonald's had back in
the nineties, I believe, where someone sued and for forgetting

(12:21):
hot coffee. You know, they spilled hot coffee on them.
They got coffee at McDonald's. I mean, I'm paraphrasing here,
but they got a coffee at McDonald's. The either the
lid didn't stay on or something happened. They spilled the
hot coffee on themselves. The coffee was supposedly allegedly scalding hot,
and they sued McDonald's. The coffee was too hot. Seinfeld
made an episode about this. You might remember where Kramer,

(12:46):
let's say, a coffee or whatever it is in his
pants as he's walking into the movie theater. He spills
it on himself. He puts a ballb on. Nobody told
him to put the ball on. All that kind of stuff.
Jackie Child's is his attorney. Anyway, It was part of
our pop culture to discuss that, because people think, well,

(13:07):
what do you want. Coffee supposed to be hot, but
it's too hot. And I didn't put the lid on.
The lid deformed. I just grabbed my coffee thinking that
it was going to be safe to drink and safe
to hold in my hand. But the next thing I know,
it spills on me and burns me. So but McDonald's
sued or assued me. McDonald's was sued by the coffee drinker,

(13:28):
and McDonald's settled. I think it was for I don't know.
I want to say it was for a million dollars.
I'm not exactly sure, but it was some large amount
of money. Now from McDonald's perspective, McDonald's didn't necessarily assume
any I don't know the details of that case. But
just by settling alone, didn't claim that they did anything wrong. Basically,

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they were agreeing to put this to rest so that
this wouldn't be in the headlines, this wouldn't be out
there in the media, all that sort of stuff, negative
pr the negative impact that it would have on the brand.
McDonald's decided it was financially worth that amount of money
to get this story out of the headlines. And so

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YouTube doesn't necessarily admit to any wrongdoing here. YouTube just
says to put this behind us, to have Trump not
talk about this, which, of course Trump's gonna say what
Trump's gonna say, unless there's some language. I don't think
that there is, but unless there's some language to where
he can't talk about it. But just to put this

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behind us, let's get this and it's worth it to them.
It's worth it to them to pay twenty four and
a half million dollars. This was the calculation, or maybe
they looked ahead and thought that this actually goes to trial,
this goes before a judge. We may have to cough
up a lot more than that. Potentially, I don't know.
But these are the sorts of conversations and calculations that

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are made, but YouTube did not admit to any wrongdoing,
and nothing has systematically changed at YouTube. Now here's the thing, though,
Here's the thing as I think about this, I don't
know that anything should change with YouTube's terms of service.
What the problem is, for my vantage point, is that

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YouTube selectively decides when to basically activate their terms of service.
They want you to think. In fact, they kind of
talk about this as a free speech platform, but they
want you to believe that they're in favor of free speech,
except when that speech is something that they decide they

(15:35):
don't want people to hear. Now I'm under no illusion here.
It can't be easy to manage a platform like YouTube.
I'm a huge proponent of free speech, but you got
to immediately start thinking about things. You know, what happens
if there's obviously people who are promote actively promoting violence,

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or that are recruiting for terrorist organizations. I mean, obviously
you got to do something about that. And then you
start going down that path, and you think, when does
it become that I mean, I want people to say
to be able to exercise free speech, but where do
I draw the lines into all of these different areas?
It becomes complicated it certainly does, but then you see

(16:19):
some of the things that are on some of these platforms.
In fact, I'm reminded of all the people who have
been cheering and applauding the death in fact, some people
even calling for the deaths of more conservatives. What was
somebody tweeted? Was it? Keith Olberman tweeted at Scott Jennings
your next, I believe was his first tweet in the

(16:39):
wake of the vile and evil assassination of Charlie Kirk.
Keith Olberman decided to get I believe it was on
the X platform. I could be wrong, and he said
you're next. I don't believe that tweet or post on
next was taken down. Elon Musk is a proponent of
free speech, but there's not all speeches protected speech, and

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not all speech should be protected. Listen. The idea of
free speech is to be able to engage in debate,
to express ourselves. But if speech is being used to
organize or directly call for something that is illegal, at
some point you have to say this is the planning
of an illegal activity, this is an incitement to violence

(17:23):
or a right, and it becomes difficult to draw the
line specifically, but nonetheless, I think we all understand that
the line is there at some point. But that's a
much different thing, much different thing than silencing the free
exchange of ideas, which is really what this ventures into
when it comes to Trump and conservatives who have had

(17:45):
problems on these platforms. It is that they want to
silence the idea. It's not that they'll look for excuses
and ways to say that you've violated their terms of
service so that they can shut you down. But the
bottom line is, I don't think there's anything wrong with
their terms of service. I think there's something wrong with
how these are these are applied. Now a little breather here,

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You know this is important. I know this is a
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My friends. We have I call it the seven pillars
of propaganda that we're fighting this battle on. We've got
the government, we've got the media, we've got big tech,
we got woke business. We've got science. I don't mean
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in this country, the bureaucrats, the people who are pushing
leftist agenda and big government controls and ideologies through these
through these sectors of our society, and we have a
battle that we're facing on multiple fronts. One of those is,
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to this here really quickly. So many conservatives when talking

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about YouTube, when talking about censorship, they'll say that YouTube
broke its own rules. In fact, I would find myself
in that category. Of course, it's hard to say just
carte blanche, because on a case by case basis, there
are conservatives out there, there are are liberals out there,
there's moderates out there, whoever, maybe not moderates, but there
are people who say things and violate the terms of

(21:07):
service all the time. So this is not to say
that no one ever violates the terms of service, But
the reality is is that YouTube wields this discretion that
it has and it's terms of service I would say,
disproportionately or in a targeted fashion against conservative speech. Now,

(21:31):
YouTube's terms they promise equal enforcement, They promise notice of removals.
They promise exceptions for newsworthy and educational content, which they
call EDSA. So basically, if it's determined EDSA content, which
again is educational newsworthy content, if your content falls into that,

(21:55):
they are supposed to are supposed to maybe kind of
throttle it down, make it available only to audiences over eighteen,
and that sort of thing. But oftentimes this isn't what happens.
They just arbitrarily, in the case of Trump, suspended his account,
and Trump's suspension ignored these very rules. By twenty twenty five,

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and I've got to wrap up here, in a second,
YouTube raised his takedown threshold, quietly admitting over enforcement, saying
we've done things too heavy handed. Over the course of time.
Now you can say they had a change of heart,
or you can say they realized after the election that
things had changed and instead of being encouraged by an
administration to silence speech, they were dealing with an administration

(22:42):
that was interested in making sure that they were consistently
enforcing and living by their terms of service and policies.
So I have to take a break up against the
clock here, my friends. You're listening here to the home
of conservative not better. Talk more to say about this
on the other side of the break of my friends
back here in just a minute. Look, I'm back, my friends,

(23:05):
talking about the YouTube settlement with President Trump twenty four
and a half million dollars. Now, this is interesting because
a lot of people don't understand this issue of free speech,
and it's there's I think a lot to wrap your
head around. But one of the things that people get

(23:28):
confused about is who can I guess police speech and
who cannot. The First Amendment protects us against government censoring
our speech. The government can't come in and tell us
that we can't say something. Now, under the previous administration,
we know for a fact that they were pressuring some

(23:50):
of these social media companies into silencing conservative messages and
speech online. So the Biden administration, President Bribery can and
try to get these companies not to allow certain messages
or certain speech on their platforms. So that is just

(24:10):
as bad. So directly silencing speech. Meaning if the government
decides tomorrow to send me a notice and say I
can't talk about X, or that you can't talk about
why or whatever, that's a violation of your free speech.
You can you can talk about this. The government can't

(24:31):
tell you what you can talk about. Now, who can
tell you what you can talk about? Well, again, you
have the right, you have the god given right to
say whatever you want to say. There's nothing anybody can
do about it. I suppose they can physically restrain you,
and you know, put some sort of a device in
your mouth that prevents you from speaking the words. But

(24:53):
short of that, which that should not be legally acceptable.
But short of that, there's no way to stop you
from saying what you want to say. People can try
to shame you, people can try to intimidate you into
shutting up, all that sort of stuff, But when it
comes down to it, there's nothing they can do to
stop you from saying what you want to say. It

(25:14):
is a it is a right, it is a right
given to us by our creator. And so but if
you want to play on certain platforms like YouTube, you
have you agree to what you can do on their platform.
In fact, many of us don't take the time to
read this. You just you sign up for an account.

(25:36):
You see some you know, set of rules that's called
TOS terms of service, and you scroll through this and
you're like, man, I'm not reading all this. There's there's
rules in there that tells you how you can and
cannot use their platform, how the rules of the game work,
and if you violate their rules then you can be
suspended and rightfully, so that's what you agreed to. Government

(25:59):
can't do this. YouTube, social media groups can't. Now where
this gets tricky is when they try to tell you
that it's a free speech platform, but when they silence
speech with which they have an opinion about. And that's
not the case. Now. There has been in fact, the
what was the case Prigger you versus what it's called

(26:21):
the Prigger U case. It challenged this this very notion,
and it went to the it was the Ninth Circuit,
of course, but the Ninth Circuit ruled I thought it
was in my stack here, But basically the Ninth Circuit
rule that how YouTube markets itself really isn't the legal

(26:43):
side of the business. This is their opinion and so forth,
and so there wasn't a contradiction of terms by saying,
you know, we're in favor of free speech, when in
reality they're silencing free speech. I of course don't really
see it that way. If you're going to say that,
if you're gonna advertise or promote your company in such
a way, then there has to be I mean, those

(27:05):
words mean something, and when you're doing the exact opposite
of that, I think that that's worth at least exploring anyway.
So there's different parts of this that could matter, but
the bottom line is the bottom line is the YouTube
platform or Meta or TikTok or whoever, whatever their terms
of service are, you agree to those. Now, what would

(27:29):
happen Blue Sky's is an example. I don't know there
are terms of service, but that's where all these little
leftists have gone who have fled Twitter, fled X because
they don't like Elon Musk. They've fled that and they've
decided that they're gonna go to Blue Sky. Now, what
happens if Blue Sky And I'm not saying they have this,
but what if Blue Sky's policies are you cannot say

(27:52):
anything disparaging or derogatory about Democrats, and you can't say
anything complimentary about Republicans. I mean, in one sense, that's
their platform, that's the rules of the game, and you
can go there if that's the kind of content. Excuse me,

(28:12):
my friends. You know I've shared this time of year
is when I have this sinus problem every year, and
I'll tell you, I'll tell you that I was not
doing well the other day Sunday nights, but I feel

(28:36):
remarkably better. But every once in a while, I get
a little bit of a tickle there and that interrupted me.
So my apologies for that. But back to the issue
at hand. Here, you've got you've got rules that the
platform has and then but the platform, the company has
an obligation to live up to those rules. That's the

(28:57):
that's their contract, that's their agreement with you, the end user.
And so if they start enforcing those things inconsistently, if
they start targeting one group over another, then there's valid questions,
valid contentions about whether or not the social media platform
is acting in good faith or if they're trying to

(29:20):
silence certain speech. I don't think there's any doubt at all.
These social media platforms they're run by first of all,
with the exception of x and Elon Musk, they're run
by people who are on the left. Now they've made
a huge movement toward this idea of free speech since
Trump's been in office. But that's not so much that
they've had a sudden awakening to the importance of free speech,

(29:44):
just that they realize that they're in the metaphorical crosshairs
and that they're you know, there's different levels of scrutiny.
When Biden was in office, they were again being pushed,
they were being encouraged to silence conservative messages and speech.
Now that Trump's in office, the exact opposite is happening,
and they don't want to poke the bear of the

(30:05):
federal government and all the regulation and stuff that can come.
And so they, for my estimation, are looking like they
want to play fairly with conservatives. But I don't know
that that's the case. In fact, I'm very skeptical that
that is the case, because I don't think that they
ideologically had a change of heart. Last night. I'll tell
you something that actually points out to me. It points

(30:26):
out it demonstrates to me just how quickly these things
can happen, how things can change. I was told a
story when I was a young man that there was
a country or a city of town in Europe, and
I forget which country it was in, back in the
day's beginning of World War two, where a group of
Jewish citizens and a non Jewish people had been living

(30:49):
together for a long long time, and then Hitler came
in and invaded whichever country this town was in. And
once they realized that Hitler had overtaken their country, within
basically no time at all, the non Jewish people living
in the town basically acted out violently against the Jewish

(31:09):
people that lived in that town. And the only thing
that changed was who the leader was. Well, of course,
the leader was the guy that just invaded. He was
reigning over their country. And in the metaphorical blink of
an eye, these people who had coexisted and lived beside
one another peacefully for a long time, suddenly suddenly could
no longer coexist because of what was permitted, because of

(31:33):
what was now suddenly endorsed by the evils of the
Nazi regime. And that's how quickly things can happen. That's
how quickly things can happen. Don't suddenly think that these
folks running these companies are on the side of free speech.
They're on the side of doing what's best for their platform,
for their stockholders, for their personal earnings, for the growth

(31:53):
of their company, for public perception. If the title wave,
if the you know, the narrative of the day is
we're trying to fight back against platforms that silence free speech.
You're going to find all these platforms we're going to
tell you how much they love and adore free speech.
And it might be a short lived experiment, my friends,

(32:14):
but we will find. We will find that when things
flip back the other direction, that they'll be on the
other side of this issue. That is my opinion. We're
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segment here today. I got more to say on the
YouTube stuff, but I'm gonna have to table that at
least for now, just because I want to talk about
this impending government shutdown. I don't know what's going to
happen here. I haven't candidly followed this super closely. You
know that we were out last week, but we've been
down this road a lot. We've been down this road
a lot with government shutdowns. The shutdown deadline is midnight,

(35:35):
midnight tonight, and there's some changes here the way that
the Trump administration. And I would say that this is
brilliant because typically what happens, Typically what happens if there
is a shutdown, staff are furloughed, furloughed. This is basically

(35:57):
just a temporary form of unpaid leave. In fact, they're
being paid back pay. In most instances, their benefits remain intact,
all that sort of stuff. Since twenty nineteen, their back
pay actually has been guaranteed now. But if this shutdown happens,
and I don't know, I don't know, but if it

(36:19):
does happen, instead of being furloughed, at least some or
maybe many of the employees affected by the shutdown would
be riffed. That's a reduction in force. I first heard
about that term when I was a school board member

(36:40):
back in the early two thousands. Reduction in force is
a permanent layoff. You've lost your position, they've cut the
role that doesn't exist anymore. There's nothing to be furloughed
from because the position is gone. There's no extra pay
or back pay, there's none of that stuff. The workforce
iss So the pass shutdowns used furloughs. This one uses well,

(37:09):
Trump's going to try to use a riff. We'll see
if this actually happens. We'll see, because here's the thing.
So you've got this balance. You've got this balance. You've
got the Impoundment Control Act of nineteen seventy four that's
out there that forces the president to spend appropriated funds.
And you've got the fact that the chief Executive Officer,

(37:31):
the CEO of the executive branch, who's the president, he
or she has discretion over who to hire and fire
ultimately in that branch. Now, Congress has made rules and
Congress has set forth or passed this Impoundment Control Act
fifty fifty years ago. But the bottom line here is
that if you don't fund a certain agency, Trump says, look,

(37:55):
you've cut the funding. So therefore I've cut I'm gonna
cut the bureaucracy. That's where this is headed. That's where
this is headed. If we get past the midnight deadline.
So in a weird way. In a weird way, this
might be the most consequential potential shut down that we've

(38:18):
had because if Trump does that, if you get past
this deadline and Trump says, we're not just furloughing the
people that are part We're gonna We're gonna rift these
parts you've not funding, doesn't exist right now. I'm only
you know, what keeps Trump having to you know, not

(38:40):
be able to fire large numbers of people in the
bureaucratic state is this impoundment Act. Because if he doesn't
spend all the money, he has to go back to
Congress and ask them to actually rescind it from the
money that they have allocated, because if they've allocated it,
he has to spend it. So if they've allocated a
lot of money for staffing and he says we need

(39:02):
half the staff and they say we funded more staff,
you got I mean, you think about how crazy this
is really just from a practical perspective. They've done everything
in their power to prevent people from being people like Trump,
from being able to actually make our government more responsible
and more economical. So we're on the hook for all this.

(39:24):
But you look at this and you think this is
the perfect scenario for Trump to maybe maybe have some
of these massive cuts to the bureaucracy if this goes through,
and who knows, but if this goes through and he
riffs positions, now the game has changed, and now Trump

(39:44):
can go in with the metaphorical acts and not just
the scalpel here, and he can begin to really change
the look and the layouts of these these organizations, these
apartments of the executive branch. So we will see where
this goes. Making no predictions here, but that's where Trump

(40:06):
is planning to take this. If we do hit the
government shut down tonight at midnight, of course, lawsuits will
ensue this. Who knows where this is going to end up.
If this ends up in the Ninth Circuit, then you know,
there's probably a good chance that Trump's gonna lose if
this goes to the Supreme Court. I don't know. But
this is again, folks, we're in a position where we

(40:28):
have to do everything legally and morally and boldly as
we try to fight back against this massive bureaucratic state,
this beast that's been created by the lovers of big
government over the past decades. But the music's telling me
it's time to wrap up, my friends. I hope you
have a wonderful day. Thank you for listening. SDG
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