June 2, 2023 • 54 mins
Ciara Barnes is a young Cork comedian who joins me this week to discuss our mutual love of stand up and in the process we discover that the word "figary" is just not used enough. Ciara has one of the most natural abilities I've seen on a stage in a long time. They have an unbelievable ability to navigate the very interesting story that is their non-binary life while intertwining charm and stage presence while rooting the lot in a solid base of class jokes.
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Well, what's the crack everybody?How are you getting on? Welcome to
another episode of the Term of Mineshow by Jesus Christ. It is Friday
the second in June, Swelton,all over Ireland. I don't know where
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will direct you in the right direction. Right moving on to today's guest,
I ran into them. She's mustbe three or four weeks ago at this
stage in what is a lovely,lovely environment which we talk we waxed lyrical
about it, which I'm using waytoo much about how good the Cocoa Club
is and just how they're fostering andcreating new talent and whatnot. And I
was blown away by gear and justhow ould if this is the correct word,
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mature to spot the little sinews ofthe audience, do you know what
I mean? The sinews of theaudience. And they just went the right
way about doing it. And Iwas surprised then during the chat that they
were saying On. Yeah, it'sabout six months, right, because that
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checks about two or three years toget your to get good at so there
are good things on the horizon orKia Barns. I had a bit of
surprise at the end, which turnsout to be absolutely fantastic because Kiera said
yes to opening for me in Collinsand cork On. I think it's November
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tenth. Yeah, November tenth,it is christ I hope I got that
right, because yeah, no,I did, I did? I did.
I have it here in front ofme. I haven't lost my mind
completely. So this was absolutely joyousbecause you could sense my bubbliness for the
love of stand up comedy, andit was shared by Kira to sit back
and enjoy. Kira Barns, Kira, how I wouldn't always calling you?
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See like what's his name is?Called your Sierra the other day and then
your your Instagram page of Sierra,which I said, oh, jeesus,
are there American? I should said, because like I had cousins who called
themselves like there's two and they bothcall him that Sierra, and I'm kind
of going, let's just Kira.Yeah, my name is kier I go
by here, but when I waseleven or ten, I want to sign
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squids in school and the people runningout were Canadian and I won and they
called my name out and they saidSierra Barnez and like that's I get my
name wrong a lot, but liketo a bunch of ten year olds,
like seventy ten year olds, that'slike it doesn't get funnier, Like that's
that's the peak. So people stillto say, people, I haven't seen
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it, what's got nearly twenty yearswill come up to me on night side
and be like, oh my god, Sierra Barnez, like and this would
have happened what eighteen years ago?So I used to get made fun of.
So I was like, I'll justtake that name and put it on
my Instagram. And when I starteddoing comedy, I was like, well
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that kind of that kind of makessense and now I'm back to just using
my real name. Um, butthat's yeah, I've been going by that
because in fairness, there's nothing wrongwith Sere Baronet. Is that that sounds
like Jesus, you own a biglaw firm, do you know that kind
of it? Or you're very successfulat something anyway with barnets as well,
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like to go to go to Barnets. I love that bit, like there's
no need in that. I mean, I mean I did when the Sliones
because when I was ten, Imean, so success was meant to come.
Something you can do with tomal maddie. Although if you if, if
you met a British person who triesto pronounce so Maddy, there's quite a
few things you can do, butnone of it ends up good. It's
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oh god, yeah, they no, you get a skin off. I'm
sure. I'm sure you've gotten prettymuch. I got brought on in shortage
one night in London, and Igot brought on too, like your man
had asked my name, he's Imust saying it right as no, you're
fucking before you even start, you'resaying it wrong. Let me I'll write
a phonetically for you. And Iknew the guy for the ages, and
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he'd hurt that said a bunch oftimes, and I wrote it phonetically for
him. I literally wrote h un n y like it's just like honey,
like like in the same way thatthe poo would have honey on the
side of Because I got it.I got it, and the chap who's
on before me. He was anAsian chap and man, he like he
had the longest name, like itwas like fourteen syllables, and he nailed
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it. I said, you getyour fucking name right, and I was
like, oh, goes up andhe brings me on as Tom Mahogany.
I'm like, you fucking prick right, show them after the fucking stage forced
the entire audience the same my namecorrectly three times. And it was just
this moment where I'm not having that, not having that. No, no,
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no, no, you can't sayit. Just wait. Did you
get the audience to say your namethree times? Like in school when you
get something wrong and you have topride it three times. Yeah. Well
that's the beautiful thing about about Londonhipsters and whatnot I found is that they
feel guilty about everything if they're inany white at all. So as as
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an Irish person, you can literallysay whatever you want because you can just
go tapt the mic eight hundred yearsyou can literally and they got so sorry.
I'm like, he didn't event todo with ye and I don't give
up bolyx. But but it wasthere is that that free raid to go
and they'll just take it in away. No other audience will take it.
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Like you go up North, they'renot going to take it, you
know what I mean. But inLondon, for some reason, they're just
so apologetic. They're frightened offending.Yeah, I love London. I'm going
up to London next week and theweek after I yeah, for gigs and
it's a it's fun time, it'slove they're always lovely crowds. And where
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you gigging, Yeah, I'm giggingit. There is a gig in Brixton.
First. No, First of all, I'm speaking in the Queer Comedy
Club. It's this new club.It's the UK's first completely lgbt q US
permanent, not just a night venue. Yeah, not just a night it's
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every Monday and every Pursday. Ithink, No, I think it's three
days a week. I think it'slike Monday, Sunday or Saturday and Thursday
or something like that. But I'mgoing over and doing the one on the
Monday. And I'm dead excited forthat because I only started up about a
month and a half ago and itlooks it looks gorgeous everything I've seen from
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it. And so that's in archArchway and then I have a gig in
Brixton with the Irish. Irish Ialways forget the name Irish culture. Oh
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah,that's great. Yeah um, and they're
their class. I'm brutal now I'veforgotten, you've gone it. But they're
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just like whatever, I'll just showup. The Irish creative no no,
no, no, yeah sure no. The guy who into this, Joe,
he is, he's amazing and hewent over for a gig in April
and he was like, oh,whenever you're back in London, like,
let me know, and he wassuper sound and everyone there was super lovely.
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And it's the Irish I think aboutJoe is he Irish's yeah or the
Irish yeah yeah Joan because he wasrunning something else before he was sound out,
he was only briefly met h soundlovely yeah yeah, super lovely guy.
Yeah. And the Irish created plexiveor fantastic. So it's amazing.
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So even knows it's better than nearanyway any Irish creative ironically, yeah,
I think because you get so manypeople who moved to London and like you
know, in Ireland, we're justlike oh yeah, we're in Ireland and
then you get to London you're justlike, yeah, my mum's pocket crisps
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and my dad's pins againness and yeahit's from the Saints and s College Islands
and stuff like that. So thereis big drive for Irish creative collective,
Irish creatives just to get together,you know. Class we met for the
first time properly. He was inKhan's place, Coco Cup. He's like
doing great stuff there. I've talkedthe waxed lyrical. I've used that phrase
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too many times in the last fortnightabout things, but I waxed lyrical about
it on my other podcast, thePatreon on how it just warm it fills
my heart because I fucking love standup like, I fucking love this ship
down to as you may have noticedwhen you were speaking to be like,
I fucking love it down to thepunctuations everything. And what Khan has done
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is just it's so cool, likehaving the like SeeU a resident and he's
has he a couple of other likedo people because he had he was doing
that like a year or two ago, and then the chap chaps move on.
A couple of people moved on frombeing resident. I think I know
what's the name Jane Surgeon or allright, he's in and around the place
all the time. But it's justclass that to have because I got I
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got afforded the exact same thing whenI was starting out, but I was
by pure look, it wasn't asetting stone kind of thing, and it
did meet the power of good thecomfort of going on a stage week,
you know, a week on weekthat you're really comfortable with and you could
just sharpen all your knives like it'sit was brilliant and you could see by
the by the two that night waslike, ah, you have ducks to
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water, you know what I mean. It was like doing gigging at home
there like for you, oh man, I love the cocoa um and yeah,
like Con actually gave me my firstgig back in twenty nineteen, and
I did a few gigs, notvery many back in twenty nineteen. I
wasn't confident with anything I was saying, didn't like what I was right saying,
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so I kind of stopped. Andthen the pandemic his h and then
I went back to US last DecemberDecember twenty twenty two, and like Con
would have seen, kind of wouldhave remembered me from a few years back,
but I was like, I waskind of excited because I felt better
with what I was doing and saying, and I was so excited for him
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to be able to show him atleast that I had like improved or was
a bit happier where I was,and for him to take me on as
a resident was just like, Oh, this is just like incredible, and
it's such an amazing club, Likeit's really gorgeous club, but it's your
enthusiasm and everything is Actually because that'sone of the few places I'll get to
early, do you know what Imean? Because normally not that I rock
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up like a break and just gohold my coat and watch this, you
know. Yeah, yeah, sometimesI wouldn't be overly stressed about getting there
fierce early. But I always makea point to get to the CON's place
early because it's like, well,I'm going to meet people who are absolutely
loving this shit too, like andhis note, there's going to be no
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cribbing about other comics. It's goingto no cribbing about fucking traffic. It's
just going to be talking about Idon't think the shit were talking about what
way to lay the chairs. Ihave a fucking buzz for laying chairs in
a comedy club that you know,the same way we all do. And
it has worn off for me fourteenyears later, but it has for a
lot of people that I know.They're like, you know, they're a
bit fucking burn from the road andstuff like that, whereas I'm still going
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giddy. So when I meet thelikes you who's still giddy about it,
it brings me such joy, doyou know the kind of way Yeah,
well, we're all nerds from there, Like all of us are so excited,
and I think we all also whatmakes it good. I think we're
all kind of people people if youget me in terms of like we're excited
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for like the audience members to comein. We're excited to meet people,
to chat to people in the breakor chat to people after before have a
laugh. We're all mates at theend of the day. Any art form
or any industry shouldn't be about,as you said, like politics, really
like there's none of that's you justgo in and have a laugh, doesn't
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matter kind of who you are.Really like, everyone's kind of welcome there
and we're all there to have funand as well as obviously through the hard
second work that goes into it,but we're there to also have a really
good time. And I think that'swhat part of what makes the focus that
was like that you people, peopleis a good is a good phrase for
people, people because aside from eventhe audience members, like everybody seemed to
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be very happy to to really immersethemselves in everybody's sets. You know,
they're kind of way like like everybodywas hanging on each other's words. I
was like, yes, this iswhat this is what the comedy club is
supposed to be, Like the comicsdown the back, even even when does
awkward bit might come, but it'sa classics singer from the from the comic
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and everybody else like, oh Jesus, you're loving it down the back because
you're like, yeah, that's forus, that's bitiness for us. Yeah,
yeah, those little bits like weall was great as well is um,
we all want each other to doreally well. Like there isn't any
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I don't know what you call him, and there's no I've heard people in
its tubs all around the place ortropes you're in America. I think it's
it's it can be common that youwant someone else to the post you look
better, which I think is ait's so backwards first of all, Like,
no, if you want to bethe best, you kind of you
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just try your best, do yourbest, and that's what you can do.
Shouldn't want someone else to do badly. All want each other to be
as best as we can, andwe always kind of help each other try
and do that. You know,Yeah, I don't know, I suppose
I maybe I just don't see it. Maybe I'm naive. I don't see
it that much in in stand upin Ireland, but I definitely like a
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gigged a bit in American I didsee it all right, you know,
or there's but there's almost there's almostas just like everything fucking American, they
overdo it to the point they fuckingnearly ruins stand up. You know,
you're like, Eric, this issu must be good crack too, as
well as being professional like what they'reall, you know, hard doing notes
and then they get that stage youknow, it's a pilot shite that flows
out and you're like that was shitwhere where it's all the fucking just grinding
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it up. Man, You're like, how about to be funny? Be
funny. First, Well, Ithink that that's I mean, just as
you know, America in general isvery grind mentallicy, you know who's working
the hardest. It's kind of dogeat dog just by nature, like in
a lot of things. Like yousee how business is done, and it's
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very like grind, grind, grimes. And I think when you're put under
pressure to succeeds, um, thatcan dampen the creative process. Yeah,
I think so. I think it'sI think so sometimes that sort of um,
not militia, but just sort ofyou kind of if someone else does
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badly and you do better. Um, I think it's sort of a little
bit right out of that I needto do well. I need to do
well because there are so many peoplewho are doing the exact same thing as
me and doing it just as hard. And you know, but I think
maybe in Arlens, I think aswe're a bit more easy going and were
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it would kill me to see somebodydying, you know, dying in the
hole, like you know what Imean, Like I saw I saw it
for the first time in a whilea few weeks back. And he's a
guy, he's such a nice man. I can i couldn't watch it.
I swear to God, I couldn'twatch it. And I could watch I
watch anything, but Jesus Christ,I had to walk out of the room,
like this is too much. Ican't, I can't, no,
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no, And there was nothing allall the pump lass I was doing at
the back just weren't working. Whateverit was. It was just oil met
water on that particular occasion for him, whatever it was, it just wasn't
And I think he was might havebeen a bit ye stage rusty too,
that he didn't have the gear changewhere you point out the elephant in room,
go, well, that wasn't fuckingMorgan. Right, let's try this.
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You know, he's plowed on,which is like, you know,
Jesus Christ, I'm sorry, Ihave to step out of the room.
Can't watch this. Yeah it's hard. It's hard to watch. And yeah,
it can just happen. It canjust see a nice where that happens.
It could be a bunch of differentthings. But yeah, it's hard
to watch. It was I didn't. I was misinterpreted. I was probably
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listened to the My New show.What you were talking about? Did you
say you were originally were you were? You raised in England or how much
time did you spend in England.I was run in England, didn't spend
much time there. I was thereuntil I was riding, and then we
moved because my mom is Irish andmy father's in English. So my my
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father stayed in England and my twosisters who were born before me, the
youngest they were, they stayed inEngland's with their month or my half sisters.
So I was very back and forth. Even when we moved to Ireland.
I was still in England a fewtimes every year, and I still
go over quite enough lot, Likehalf the family are over there, so
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we're they based in Essex and Ihave yeah there, I've my one of
my sisters on the Hertfordshire Essex borderand then the rest of my family or
Essex. Yeah, I was goingto say because in my Irish head and
got trendy for gigs stopping in London. Of course it's not Essex is a
whole other county away, like yeah, yeah, it's I I stay.
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I tend to stay in London.Uh stity itself. I could like where
I'm from. His right to sidestands to the airport, so it would
be easy, but like if you'rethere, if you're in a gig and
then you have to get back tothe Essex at stupid o'clock in the morning,
and it's costing you loads of moneyand it's such easier stay of course,
But I was like what I wastalking about with you on your set,
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and it's rare I would I wouldcome up to somebody and speak afterwards,
because let people do their own thing. But Jesus Christ night, like
you had it, and the factthat you've you'd only started in twenty nineteen,
two year fucking layaway and then backin two twenty two, so that
technically is only about six months,Like where did the comedy come from?
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Because you had the go of somebodywho was at it a few years and
had made fuck ups. Actually,do you know what I mean? To
the point that you'd corrected yourself bythe time I saw you. That was
what was astounding me, was likethat what the fuck? Do you know
what I mean? There was enoughto you were able to read the room
enough like like like was there fiercepersonalities at home or something like? Or
where was that buil from? Likebecause you don't pull that out your whole
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being able to spot. Okay,there's fucking twenty English lads there. I'll
placade them with this, and thenI'm going to plow into my set,
like what was the you have youany idea or the just because people often
ask me and I'm going, Idon't know, so I know, I'm
actually feel free to say I don'tknow what I'm I don't know, I
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don't know, I am, Idon't know. I've been I've been writing
for like since I was a child, Like it was something I did every
day and it's something I still do, whether it's your direct jokes or whether
it's just writing about my day oror whatever. Um, I've always loved
storytelling. Um I love seeing ofIt sounds so cliche when I say it,
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but whenever there's something that's kind offunny, it like it it sticks
in my brain. Like they seea try and see, not try and
see. I just do kind ofsee the funny bits of day to day
and I suppose yeah, and thatjust builds up into it fast. That
takes that takes a good long whileto develop that brain. Like, so
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I'm just wondering, like like they'remost being good correct personalities grown up for
you to or at least I supposethe writing side of things would force you,
force you to be more observant,like but to get that brain where
you go, you know, plantfucking guess you know what I mean,
and see and see it and breakit down because that normally takes a year
or to two years, if notthree years for and fucking no never for
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some people like But that was why, That's why I was shocked when you
said, YEA started back up intwenty twenty two. What it was,
I don't I've I've always loved standup like since I was a child,
and I don't know, it justsort of it was something that I was
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like, I love this so much. And the differences that I'm not I'm
not actually the one doing it.I'm not on the stage. Why you
know, when you see something oryou have such a vested interest in something
and it's like, well why aren'tI Why aren't I doing it? And
um and yeah, I don't know. It's it's fun as well, like
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I love playing with people, Likein my day to day I'm a very
social person and I love having alaugh with people in general. So if
I'm coming onto the stage, suddenlyI have, you know, fifty people
in front of me that I canhave fun with, and there are a
bunch of really fun English lads,you know. And it's just that particular
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instance came from that. Isn't thatinteresting? Because that's very much how I
approach it, that I love havingcrack with people, and now you've given
me more people to have the crackwords, and it's a it's a great
place to get your brain too.But because a lot of people come out
it from almost I won't say wrongbecause it's sucking up to you, what
did you do? But a lotof people kind of come out of going
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it's about me. I need toget through this and get this right for
me to make me feel good.We're like, no, it's all about
all of us, really the crack. And you could just be the conduit
to crack if you don't mind,because I know how to bring the crack.
Is that all right? If Ibring the crack and everybody else paid
to have the crack brought to them, you're the crack waiter. So I
yeah, what I tried to rememberhaving this chat with you know, Terry
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Alderton or Alderton I should say,and He took years for that to hit,
years for that to hit before herealized, oh, it's about them.
I'm here to make them laugh,not to get me through this moment
and feel good about myself. It'slike, yeah, Jesus, And it
took he reckoned twenty years. Ittook him to get to that point.
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Terry Alderton is hilarious. I've actuallyi've seen him. I think i've seen
him live wife and it was whenI saw him, this was about twenty
nineteen, twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, I think worth the times I saw
him, and it was very hewas he was picking out people in the
crowd and it wasn't like taking peopleout of making fun of him. It
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was taking people out so we canall have a lot together. And it's
it's enabling crack. You're a crackenabler, Like that's what people are going
to do suddenly. Yeah, you'reYou're the one on stage and they're fifty
people in front of you, butthere are also people. There are fifty
people in front of you and aroundthem are four yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah yeah, they canall have fun with You're just the one
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like feeding you know, oxygens witha flame almost and that's fun. That's
a lot. I did a gigwith him for ORT and it was brilliant
to watch it as comedians because itwas a couple of the audience members said
he kind of chose weren't getting itat all at all at all, like
you know, and that that's whywe were at the back of the room
and just tears flowing down her facebecause he and he because he doesn't have
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to let off because it's Terry Aldertonand he's that character on stage. Yeah,
he's doing he's doing the bells,you know, the thing with the
bells. He's like, yeah,he doesn't want to bet what's the best
quiven the bells. And it's thisfather and son who clearly looked like they've
just stood out of a tractor andthey're just sitting on hot and it's it's
on YouTube. It was you lookjust look up Terry Alderton laughter in the
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air and it cuts the way tothese guys just kind of gone hot and
they're too big box as a blokes, you know, like they're just father
and son just sitting going yeah,yeah, good idea. I love that
at eat blows on regardless fair playto him, fair play to him.
Because I did a gig this afew weeks ago now, and it was
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in a venue that like a lotof my material. I'm like, okay,
yeah, you know, there're gonnabe some people who this is not
their their vibe, They're not theirimmediate vibes. And I went in and
I was talking about like gender andstuff like that, and there were just
three lads eighteen years old, drinkingbumbers staring at me like I had three
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heads, and they were trying tofigure out what was going on. And
it's like they they're not having agood time here. I'm not having a
good time here. I kind ofI might have a bit more fun if
I can talk about something else orkind of get off stage. Because of
my clouds through it, I justdon't think it wouldn't very well for them
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or for us. But at theend of it, it was a fun
time, and I was it's dauntinglooking at three people who are in the
front and they do not know what'sgoing on, you know, would be
fair like to be fair you haveyou What en armored me was that you
had a fantastic charm in how likeyou thirty you know, twenty or thirty,
middle age whatever about the rest ofyou on I'm picking these boys out
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because they were in a group together, but they were like middle aged blokes.
And then you brought up the brilliantlyfucking crafted way of charming the story
of gender and these lads you knewbuy them. There were thirty blokes over
for a soccer game or something.It wasn't in their wheelhouse either, but
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yet you still managed to have acharming way of explain that having jokes throughout,
and they're still going, fuck it, there's jokes. I'm on board,
you know what I mean. Andyou could see it they were like
what at first, because they're like, I don't know, do you know?
I don't know, and then stillfinding jokes to laugh at throughout us
like, oh find that. Ifthere's jokes, then what that's fine by
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us. I think it was SarahPasco who says that's a difference, like
because Sarah Pasco Hea she talks aboutlike often quite political things, and she
says, there has like base levelor the comedy show, there has to
be jokes. You're either you know, when you're up on stage, you're
either doing a comedy set or you'redoing his head talk and I came to
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to comedy. Um, so ifI'm choosing whatever, someone like, if
I choose to talk about anything,it's gonna be funny. That's my job,
That's what I'm there to do.Yeah, everybody gets that. Everybody
gets that they're just barking at peoplelike Yeah, sometimes it's a fine line,
especially if you're passionate about something aswell. Then you know, sometimes
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passion can be confused. Um intranslation you're trying to bring it to like
a comedy stage for example. Um. But yeah, it was like,
there has to be jokes and alsoI want to get up there and have
a good time as well. That'sto be stuff I enjoy talking about.
But sometimes, like I looked atthe demographic and I was like, Okay,
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I think this is firstly a numberone. This is a big group
of people, and they all seemlike a lot of fun. I think
it can have a lot of funhere if I like have a little bond
with them, um, and thenI can get into just the other stuff,
you know, that the gender stuffthat I usually talk about them.
By that stage, you know,I've made friendships with them and they're not
that I think that they wouldn't listen. But it's just like they're kind of
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going, oh, actually, yeah, but we'll give this, let's see
what's going on, and oh classthey are jokes, fantastic, Oh this
is this is a great time,you know. And instead of like plunging
straight into us and but that youknow, I'm missing that, it wouldn't
be the worst thing in the world. That's why I decided to do and
at some time, yeah, becausethat's the thing. It doesn't matter if
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it's if it's an obscure thing tothe people in the audience, because I
remembered early doors, like bringing uphow like I used to I used to
fight, mma fight, and thisis kind of like fourteen fifteen years ago.
I love the good old scrap,but trying to get that across the
line to people who are like,what the fuck is he talk about?
So you again, you had tofind, well, what will get me
on the leg in the door hereand then we'll go into the time.
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You know, most of the timeI got almost strangled. It's more than
anything like, but it was,but again it was it was it was
too off the beaten track originally forjust going right here we go. It's
God, Jesus Christ, what's whatit's on about? Like you know,
but the same same thing. Becauseyou jumped into the football thing immediately.
It was like a very good guywould have been folk actually with that football
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thing, because I would have been, I've nothing for you. Lets I
have nothing for you. I don't. It's not my bag, like you
know what I mean? It was, but I found it right. The
wrong word yet charming and refreshing.It's the wrong word. Enamoring is what
I went. That's how you fuckingdo it. Now see that. Now
everybody, there should be more youngcomedians in here watching this. That's how
you do it. You're fucking yourub their ears first and then go.
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Now I have to tell yourself andthere'll be a raka jokes in it,
right, but maybe a subject matterthat you have no idea about. But
what was great for like, whatwas great was that there was a subject
matter that I didn't know much about, because you know what I mean,
you don't meet meet many non binarypeople. Well I certainly don't anyway,
but I'm terribly interested in it becauseanything I don't know about, you know
what I mean? If I don'tknow how to drop an engine out of
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a car. I want to knowabout that too. So when you meet
somebody who's who's an expert on nonbinary it's it's incredibly interesting. I mean,
like, do you find yourself goinggreat, I tell you all about
it? Or its like error fuckingread about the time you'd be grand Like
is that where like where do youstand on it? Like because you seem
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passionate? Obviously you are passionate,Like, but where like is it something
there you go the funk? HaveI to tell you about that? Far?
It's hardly that interesting? Or isit something that you go right sit
yourself down there? You know?I mean you have jokes around it which
are tremendous, But is that whereyou leave it? And I think,
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first of all, I wouldn't considermyself like an expert on the gender.
It's just the fact that this ismy gender and I happen to experience life
as this person, and that's it'sreally only my experience. I can talk
about m because I know people whohave PhDs and gender studies are far more
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knowledge about all the nuances of gender. And but it's like there's a lot
of um, like really horrible newsconstantly about people who are trans and non
binary, and kind of basically it'svery very dark stuff that goes on.
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And I think it's it's a strugglefor LGBTQ people because this is like our
daily life and it's you know,it's hard, and it's there's a lot
of darkness to us. And that'sfor fifth gender people or people who are
strays or you know, if theymeet a transfer non binary person or they
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get something wrong like pronouns or theyget whatever wrong, they can feel almost
like they're being jumps down their throatthe people are on the other end,
so they transfer nonbinary people can oftenfeel like these people don't understand, and
you get that sort of friction andit really depends on the person to person
as someone who again just happens tobe non binary. And this is my
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experience, and I'm quite a happyperson in general, and it's just something
that I take great pride in andthat just comes on to stage. I
think it's not my job to educatepeople about it. I think people need
to do their own and their ownresearch. I get a lot of people
coming up to me after sets goingoh that was so great, Will and
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then they mis gender me, andI'm like, Okay, where are you
listening And you just said at all, Like if you're saying you learned a
lot, but that's not I'm nottheir teacher. Um, It's just something
that I I think there's so muchbeauty in it, Like there really is.
There's such a depth of things totalk about it, Like if you're
going on stage, you need stuffto talk about it. This is the
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stuff that goes on in my dailylife, you know. Um, and
that's why that just happens to bewhat I talk about on stage. So
and it's also great because I don'treally know you've non binary. I like
there are Jesus I think I know, like may be for maybe for trans
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and non binary comedians that says that'sin Irelands. I don't. I went
over to I did a non binaryand women run gig. There was one
trans woman and I would see Iwas so excited. I went up.
I was like, oh, Itraveled for I was just outside of me
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all these like if there are anyother non binary people there? And it
was all women and obviously I lovewomen, but I was like, I
was really hoping to meet some moretrans people for non binary people, and
there was one that kind of halfnude. She's lovely, really really fund
and a brilliant comedian. Um,and I go to That's one of the
reasons I go up to London.I've been going up to London once or
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twice a month now to do mostlyqueer gigs because I'm trying to meet as
many queer comedians. And I'm acutelyaware as well that, like I the
stuff I talk about and the demographicsthat I come from, it's quite neat
and I think I like, Iwant to challenge myself as well, like
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I want to see what other queercomics are doing. I don't want to
just revel in the facts of thetime. You know. Oh, I'm
the only non binary comedian and quirklike I want to know others, you
know, so um yeah, Ilike the only the only other person I
know trans is Alia Rourke an adderon the podcast, and Ali was the
only I was like, you havea locked down you have you have locked
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down if you play your guards right, like, yeah, you've cornered the
markets. Yeah, she's she's fantasticas well. She's really really really sound
like you know what I mean forsome reason, I keep on running into
her, like in just random partsof like on the way to something,
not gigs, but just like we'llrun into her sometimes at the petro station.
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Just had enough. Oh yeah,me too, right, okay,
just but it's it's yeah, it'sit's it just it intrigued, not intrigue.
I'm using all the wrong enamor Ithink was the word in how you
went about it. Do you knowwhat I mean? Because it's like,
yes, this not say and I'mpushing the spokesperson thing on you because it's
still comedy at the end of theday. But it was like this for
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jelly brain people who are full ofpints, this is how if for any
like, it was a great templatefor anybody who's trying to implement something like
if you're coming from I don't know, pig farming and you're trying to implement
it into your set, and youknow it'd be too abstract for people like
if I start talking about rules shitin London, the fuck do you know?
But my third visitor, I wasable to find a way, you
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know what I mean, because they'relike, oh, I get you,
I get you now, right rightright, So you need a bit of
you need a bit of a sessionfirst, and then we'll get into how
we used to fight off the backof attractor. Great, right, let's
get into it. You'll be readyfor it then. Yeah. But it's
a good it's a great template thatI saw, Like nice, but how
and on a day like you weregigging? Where were you getting last night?
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Because I'm interested to see how muchyou're pushing, like how much gigging?
Because I will be because it wasit David was the chap's name that
was there last night? Is itDavid David who when we were gigging the
David's name, there's David. Hewould be that he would have been talking
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about like yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah again learned about
it. I's like Jesus Christ isnot Nelson's educational fantastic but he was saying
that, Yeah, he was sayingthere was a bunch of bunch of gigs
after opening up around Cork, whichis fucking tremendous. Um. Yeah,
it's brilliant. Yeah, I'd be. I'd be absolutely haunting it because I'm
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I've got a new, a newshow to build, so I'll be showing
up in all those places just beingYeah, how's it going right, let's
talk about him, you know,But I just if nothing else for the
enthusiasm that seems to be built anif you could have comedy seven nights a
week in a not gigantic city,do you know it's yeah, it's at
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it's it's brilliant and um, likeyeah, the fact we do we have
seven we have comedy seven nights aweek. If you wanted to do seven
gigs in a week, like it'spossible, and um. As well as
that, it's like they're not um, they're not like small little gigs where
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you have three people either. Youknow, it's if you go in there
and there are a lot of thecomics that you see on the circus and
all inequid Mood. I think theCork comedy scene at the moment as well
is particularly gorgeous. Like everyone,I like, just to echo what they
said earlier, like everyone's really supportive. Everyone wants each other to do well.
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Like there's no when I say rivalry, you have rivalry in terms of
just like I want to be greator whatever. It's every one like pushing
each other to do to do aswell as possible, like right now,
like after after this, I'm goingdown to the Comedy Bunker above one spot
fall across o'dunna who he runs thatand Chrystal Leary's headlining and Martin Angolo.
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I think it's popping in for abit. And there's a brilliant lineup.
Yesterday I was on in the comedyCarvern in Collins with an unbelievable lineup Thomas
Lawrence and John James Tilly. Theywere headlining and they were fantastic. Then
I have I'm being resident in theCoco. I have Thursday, Friday,
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Saturday, I'm in the Coco,and then I do the Last Gaff which
is in the Liberty. It's anopen mic and that's that's always great fun.
That's run by Adam Raymonds and it'sit's fantastic. You have Crew Comedy
and the Path they're run by thesame lads, Jack Kirby and Um and
Ray Murphy have there's more Oh,and then you have Yeah. Then you
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have you have Raredence through brayin FrancisDoes. There's Rebel Comedy. It's an
open mic Inverdence on Sundays and andthen you know you again you have callings
again like there's someone doing the workwith progressor you do have other gigs.
They could be on a Saturday andjust loads of gigs popping up the place,
you know, and it's fantastic andeveryone's well, no, I'm going
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to actually, yeah, I'm goingto annoy the shit out of you know,
but messages asking for those details ofthose people's names, because do you
know what it does? I don't. I don't know if you have you
given Belfast haven't yet we get thathooked up. That that is a gear
change. I'll tell you something.Nothing in the world is happening like what's
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happening in Belfast right now. Nothingfor the last four or five years.
I know. There's no place canpossibly because they have a tiny population.
They're not they're probably about the sizeof Limerick. Yet they have this incredible
amount of theaters and everything else aroundthe city. But they're thirst for fucking
anything is incredible that doesn't involve afucking sectarian violence and all that kind of
(43:08):
stuff. It is amazing to seehow like people people fucking would wear merch
from my podcast to a gig,and I don't. And if you imagine
somebody down here doing they'd no morefucking where, like especially somebody local to
you, like you know what Imean, like local before your paper could
(43:30):
be your biggest fan, but they'dnever tell you down here up there,
no shame, no shame. Maythink you're fucking amazing. I'm like,
yes, I thought the same thing, thanks very much. But it's like
every club full, every club fullfull, full to the fucking rafters.
Any of the boys that are takinga rip out of it, any of
anybody's taking a rip out of itup there. You really dedicate yourself,
(43:52):
like you to sell the Ulster Hall, No, biggie, what you're aiming
for probably a couple of years time, sec arena arena Colin get us about
to do? Is six sold outan arena show? You're like, what
the in a tiny city, afucking tiny place every again another place.
When I head up, I getthere super early. Now we'd go for
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food and stuff and we hang out, we break the shit out of each
other, like there's no nobody's allowedto have their emotions at the table because
it's just ripping, ripping, ripping. But everybody gets the club unbelievably early
and notes and whatever. But you'rejust dicking about. Fuck acting about and
then boom, right, let's hitthe stage and it's it is. What
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I'm seeing now is the seeds,the seedlings of what happened there, maybe
nine ten years ago, happening nowin Cork, with the same vibe.
People are wanting the other person todo well. There was a great buzz
back and forth. Yeah, andit's it can only be like you know,
you go all the way through itand you're like oh, and you
end up at you know, ChrisKent, You're like, yes, and
one of the sounds of people evermeet, you know, so from the
(44:59):
top to the atom, I seeit. I would hope, and I'd
be very excited that it would turnit into something like Belfast my god,
oh my god. But yeah,we'll get you. We'll get just arted
up up there, like because there'llbe a couple of clubs up there were
you'll be like like delicious, likeyou come away almost spoiled a small but
because you're like, i'd say,that's the greatest I know more right needed
(45:21):
on that that's perfect rant And thenyou and it's not like but you because
you just get so much from them. I don't know what it is,
but they just fucking love comedy andit's just midweek weekend, doesn't make a
difference, doesn't make a difference.You'll get a crowd every fingle night.
So that's when you say that aboutCork. That's what's getting me excited,
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like, oh, could we havean they're Belfast Jesus Christ. And again
they've only come on so like Ladsaid, I knew they were they were
decent, but they've come on sostrong because of that, because there's a
hint of competitiveness obviously, but youneed that with your friends. But also
there's a I get go on,I did say it, it's worth saying,
go on, say it. Andthen when you're when you hang around
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with other comics, you're just goingto go and be a proper comic on
stage, you know, you know, yeah, yeah, I'm sorry.
It's it's it's the what you're saying, like with the with your fellow comics,
when you have them spurring you on, it really like oh, it
just makes all the difference because youget you basically run up on stage like
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oh I'm out sided literally Like that'sagain because it con puts me in a
good mood anytime I walk you know, commediate hug, like and all the
rest of you're like, yeah,fine, giddeo, let's go because they
know is warmth already. You're likethis everybody is on the same vibe.
Like, you know, two peoplecame up and before the show, like
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can can he have a picture?Like it was like her child, it
was her husband's Can you have apicture? Which it was like Christ,
of course, Christ, can Ihave a picture with g you know,
like I'm irish moment please really quicklyadd we just but they'd already bought tickets
to Colins in November for my show. It's like, but you know,
I can tell you that. Andit's like and they were so happy and
(47:09):
they were so happy to see allthe other comics and so you're like,
oh this there wasn't a you know, there wasn't a cold heart in the
room, if you know what Imean. It's like, this is what
pure artists apposed to be. Likeyeah, and oh you have people at
the end of every show coming upto you, um, shaking your hand
or saying you know, well,don are telling you that they had a
(47:31):
really great nice or whatever, likeyou have a last with them afterwards.
It's all it's all of very grace, all of very great vibe. I
hate you've been too much. Iknow this. It's just very London thing
to say. Vibes. Man.You know, we should invent we should
give them a word for it.Maybe what's it? We'll find an Irish
(47:52):
word. Do you know a niceIrish word that would fit in for vibes?
I think what would it be?I don't know. I feel like
air. There's a lovely air aboutthe place. It would be something very
very almost vague, almost you wouldn'twant to be too. I think a
whole new word. Like I hearda word the other day that's an oldie
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world the Irish word, and Ihadn't heard it like fifteen or twenty years.
My mother used it, and it'sa word. It's a great word
for beans, having a sporadic notionto do something. So say you just
went ra fucking I'm going paint inthe house and that's the end of it.
It could be explained away with oneword. Yeah, erra I took.
I got an old faghari. It'slike a FAGHERI isn't that a great
worry? Oh wow, I haven'theard that. I don't know that a
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great word, Saghari. Well that'sa fantastic word. Oh I might start
using that again again. As asfar as using it when I was four,
I might start isn't it like it'sstraight away now more things, because
it's not like forcing an agenda onpeople. But people will get it.
Most Irish people would get it,and the phone didn't explaining it to anybody
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Else's like, well this is whatit means a day because it's a fun
word to say, Sagary, Yeah, yeah, Jesus yeah, yeah,
yeah, that deserves a bit ofa comeback. That's great, So vibes
we need to write. So beforethe next time I see you, we'll
try and come up and have acorrect, more Irish word for vibes.
Do you know that? So allhas spares two is three words like it's
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not it's too much, but weneed to find I bet there is a
like an angelic word or like avery written word, you know, something
built into old Irish that that givesyou the the atmosphere of a rumor an
area. Betchy there is well youknow what, I've got thirty two words
for fields. By staring at that, you would definitely have a yeah,
(49:45):
yeah, yeah. If there's someonewho does it, sends, so we'll
workshop. Yeah. Workshop, that'sa fantastic word for it. Um.
This has been absolutely tremendous. Thankyou so much for coming on. I
know I'm conscious that you're heading totake gigan. I love that. No,
that you're heading the gig immediately afterthis. My gigs, my weekend
gigs don't start it tomorrow night,so I'm like, this evening will be
(50:06):
just relaxed. Well I say that, but it's not going to be relaxing.
I'm a no, I'm a maniac. I can't this is If I
wasn't doing this, I'd be doingsomething like I can't SIT's still. I'm
the worst person ever to watch thetelevision with. I can't. I can't
sit still during it, during anyprogram. So you're not alone there,
(50:27):
brilliant Come here. What have yougot a calendar in front of you?
By any chance? Can do?I gave gigs calendar November tenth. What
are you? What are you doingthere? We are let's see. I
don't think I am doing anything beminybamboo lash November tenth is pretty free,
(50:49):
probably I haven't really checked that far. What's happening for me in for my
new show. Where else the mostone of the most beautiful places. I
would love us. I would loveus. I can't fucking wait. And
we'll have a new word for vibesbefore then, an Irish word where it
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actually means yeah. Whether it's onecorner or whoever, whoever comes up with
it, whatever, whatever that wordis, that's what's going to be.
That's what's going to be the atmosphereof the nice. It's nice. We
may end up having to do twobecause it looks like there's going to be
a lot of people buying tickets.So but either way, Collins as Collins
(51:31):
and I'm putting you in the bookfailing something else, or you'll flick over
the go ah fuck. I meanit's a very cool place in London or
whatever. But other than that,we will get you hooked up with Belfast
too. I say we, Iwill, and I'll I'll just I'll message
get us right now. Let's seewhat way you're set up and get you
(51:51):
hooked up with a couple of gigsup there. Nice one man, I'll
be class. This has been deadly, deadly not a good word either.
We need we need a better worddeadly too, more Irish words, because
we're building. We're trying to buildan empire here in Munster of what they
have an Ulster right now? Umwell, I mean I'm in Cork.
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I know you're you're up in work. We said Dave, and I think
Dason is a great one for atleast dayson will do absolutely perfect right to
let's see you again. I'm gonnamess paper pepper to hell out of you
when it comes to people's gigs inCork because I need to run this new
show. And totally okay, totallyLEGI where is do you? Do?
(52:37):
You want people to follow you?If you If you do, people can
follow me. People can follow me. There was a great clip, actually
if they don't, does a greatclip went up? Was it two days
ago? Three days ago? Ofyou and you? It wasn't in the
coco. It was in the coco. It was in the coco. Yeah,
(52:58):
that I didn't realize that was beingI didn't realize that was put up
on my phone to start to growmental help. There are a lot of
there are a few people who wereSomeone commented God saved the King very strangel
so a wide spectrum of people whohave now followed me, which is bananas
um. But if they want,if people want to follow me, I'm
(53:22):
just at Sierra Barnetz on Instagram.That's where Sierra Barnez aka Kiera Barnes aka
real name being. I would deprivewhatever you're selling here, if you're a
property mogul, I'm I mean,that's that's the brand man that's trying to
(53:43):
be a landward house here because that'sthe popular thing at the moment. No,
god, no, and yeah,but that's where I am. That's
who I am. Tremendous. Thankyou very very much, Thank you very
very much. Enjoyed the rest ofyour evening, man, and my thanks
again to Kira. Or should Isay, see here a baron is what
a cool I'm buying whatever? Seehere? A baronet is a selling anyway
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will direct you in the right direction. Right moving on to today's guest,
I ran into them. She's mustbe three or four weeks ago at this
stage in what is a lovely,lovely environment which we talk we waxed lyrical
about it, which I'm using waytoo much about how good the Cocoa Club
is and just how they're fostering andcreating new talent and whatnot. And I
was blown away by gear and justhow ould if this is the correct word,
(03:40):
mature to spot the little sinews ofthe audience, do you know what
I mean? The sinews of theaudience. And they just went the right
way about doing it. And Iwas surprised then during the chat that they
were saying On. Yeah, it'sabout six months, right, because that
(04:02):
checks about two or three years toget your to get good at so there
are good things on the horizon orKia Barns. I had a bit of
surprise at the end, which turnsout to be absolutely fantastic because Kiera said
yes to opening for me in Collinsand cork On. I think it's November
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tenth. Yeah, November tenth,it is christ I hope I got that
right, because yeah, no,I did, I did? I did.
I have it here in front ofme. I haven't lost my mind
completely. So this was absolutely joyousbecause you could sense my bubbliness for the
love of stand up comedy, andit was shared by Kira to sit back
and enjoy. Kira Barns, Kira, how I wouldn't always calling you?
(04:46):
See like what's his name is?Called your Sierra the other day and then
your your Instagram page of Sierra,which I said, oh, jeesus,
are there American? I should said, because like I had cousins who called
themselves like there's two and they bothcall him that Sierra, and I'm kind
of going, let's just Kira.Yeah, my name is kier I go
by here, but when I waseleven or ten, I want to sign
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squids in school and the people runningout were Canadian and I won and they
called my name out and they saidSierra Barnez and like that's I get my
name wrong a lot, but liketo a bunch of ten year olds,
like seventy ten year olds, that'slike it doesn't get funnier, Like that's
that's the peak. So people stillto say, people, I haven't seen
(05:34):
it, what's got nearly twenty yearswill come up to me on night side
and be like, oh my god, Sierra Barnez, like and this would
have happened what eighteen years ago?So I used to get made fun of.
So I was like, I'll justtake that name and put it on
my Instagram. And when I starteddoing comedy, I was like, well
(05:54):
that kind of that kind of makessense and now I'm back to just using
my real name. Um, butthat's yeah, I've been going by that
because in fairness, there's nothing wrongwith Sere Baronet. Is that that sounds
like Jesus, you own a biglaw firm, do you know that kind
of it? Or you're very successfulat something anyway with barnets as well,
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like to go to go to Barnets. I love that bit, like there's
no need in that. I mean, I mean I did when the Sliones
because when I was ten, Imean, so success was meant to come.
Something you can do with tomal maddie. Although if you if, if
you met a British person who triesto pronounce so Maddy, there's quite a
few things you can do, butnone of it ends up good. It's
(06:35):
oh god, yeah, they no, you get a skin off. I'm
sure. I'm sure you've gotten prettymuch. I got brought on in shortage
one night in London, and Igot brought on too, like your man
had asked my name, he's Imust saying it right as no, you're
fucking before you even start, you'resaying it wrong. Let me I'll write
a phonetically for you. And Iknew the guy for the ages, and
(06:59):
he'd hurt that said a bunch oftimes, and I wrote it phonetically for
him. I literally wrote h un n y like it's just like honey,
like like in the same way thatthe poo would have honey on the
side of Because I got it.I got it, and the chap who's
on before me. He was anAsian chap and man, he like he
had the longest name, like itwas like fourteen syllables, and he nailed
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it. I said, you getyour fucking name right, and I was
like, oh, goes up andhe brings me on as Tom Mahogany.
I'm like, you fucking prick right, show them after the fucking stage forced
the entire audience the same my namecorrectly three times. And it was just
this moment where I'm not having that, not having that. No, no,
(07:42):
no, no, you can't sayit. Just wait. Did you
get the audience to say your namethree times? Like in school when you
get something wrong and you have topride it three times. Yeah. Well
that's the beautiful thing about about Londonhipsters and whatnot I found is that they
feel guilty about everything if they're inany white at all. So as as
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an Irish person, you can literallysay whatever you want because you can just
go tapt the mic eight hundred yearsyou can literally and they got so sorry.
I'm like, he didn't event todo with ye and I don't give
up bolyx. But but it wasthere is that that free raid to go
and they'll just take it in away. No other audience will take it.
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Like you go up North, they'renot going to take it, you
know what I mean. But inLondon, for some reason, they're just
so apologetic. They're frightened offending.Yeah, I love London. I'm going
up to London next week and theweek after I yeah, for gigs and
it's a it's fun time, it'slove they're always lovely crowds. And where
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you gigging, Yeah, I'm giggingit. There is a gig in Brixton.
First. No, First of all, I'm speaking in the Queer Comedy
Club. It's this new club.It's the UK's first completely lgbt q US
permanent, not just a night venue. Yeah, not just a night it's
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every Monday and every Pursday. Ithink, No, I think it's three
days a week. I think it'slike Monday, Sunday or Saturday and Thursday
or something like that. But I'mgoing over and doing the one on the
Monday. And I'm dead excited forthat because I only started up about a
month and a half ago and itlooks it looks gorgeous everything I've seen from
(09:28):
it. And so that's in archArchway and then I have a gig in
Brixton with the Irish. Irish Ialways forget the name Irish culture. Oh
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah,that's great. Yeah um, and they're
their class. I'm brutal now I'veforgotten, you've gone it. But they're
(09:52):
just like whatever, I'll just showup. The Irish creative no no,
no, no, yeah sure no. The guy who into this, Joe,
he is, he's amazing and hewent over for a gig in April
and he was like, oh,whenever you're back in London, like,
let me know, and he wassuper sound and everyone there was super lovely.
(10:13):
And it's the Irish I think aboutJoe is he Irish's yeah or the
Irish yeah yeah Joan because he wasrunning something else before he was sound out,
he was only briefly met h soundlovely yeah yeah, super lovely guy.
Yeah. And the Irish created plexiveor fantastic. So it's amazing.
(10:37):
So even knows it's better than nearanyway any Irish creative ironically, yeah,
I think because you get so manypeople who moved to London and like you
know, in Ireland, we're justlike oh yeah, we're in Ireland and
then you get to London you're justlike, yeah, my mum's pocket crisps
(10:58):
and my dad's pins againness and yeahit's from the Saints and s College Islands
and stuff like that. So thereis big drive for Irish creative collective,
Irish creatives just to get together,you know. Class we met for the
first time properly. He was inKhan's place, Coco Cup. He's like
doing great stuff there. I've talkedthe waxed lyrical. I've used that phrase
(11:20):
too many times in the last fortnightabout things, but I waxed lyrical about
it on my other podcast, thePatreon on how it just warm it fills
my heart because I fucking love standup like, I fucking love this ship
down to as you may have noticedwhen you were speaking to be like,
I fucking love it down to thepunctuations everything. And what Khan has done
(11:43):
is just it's so cool, likehaving the like SeeU a resident and he's
has he a couple of other likedo people because he had he was doing
that like a year or two ago, and then the chap chaps move on.
A couple of people moved on frombeing resident. I think I know
what's the name Jane Surgeon or allright, he's in and around the place
all the time. But it's justclass that to have because I got I
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got afforded the exact same thing whenI was starting out, but I was
by pure look, it wasn't asetting stone kind of thing, and it
did meet the power of good thecomfort of going on a stage week,
you know, a week on weekthat you're really comfortable with and you could
just sharpen all your knives like it'sit was brilliant and you could see by
the by the two that night waslike, ah, you have ducks to
(12:26):
water, you know what I mean. It was like doing gigging at home
there like for you, oh man, I love the cocoa um and yeah,
like Con actually gave me my firstgig back in twenty nineteen, and
I did a few gigs, notvery many back in twenty nineteen. I
wasn't confident with anything I was saying, didn't like what I was right saying,
(12:48):
so I kind of stopped. Andthen the pandemic his h and then
I went back to US last DecemberDecember twenty twenty two, and like Con
would have seen, kind of wouldhave remembered me from a few years back,
but I was like, I waskind of excited because I felt better
with what I was doing and saying, and I was so excited for him
(13:11):
to be able to show him atleast that I had like improved or was
a bit happier where I was,and for him to take me on as
a resident was just like, Oh, this is just like incredible, and
it's such an amazing club, Likeit's really gorgeous club, but it's your
enthusiasm and everything is Actually because that'sone of the few places I'll get to
early, do you know what Imean? Because normally not that I rock
(13:33):
up like a break and just gohold my coat and watch this, you
know. Yeah, yeah, sometimesI wouldn't be overly stressed about getting there
fierce early. But I always makea point to get to the CON's place
early because it's like, well,I'm going to meet people who are absolutely
loving this shit too, like andhis note, there's going to be no
(13:54):
cribbing about other comics. It's goingto no cribbing about fucking traffic. It's
just going to be talking about Idon't think the shit were talking about what
way to lay the chairs. Ihave a fucking buzz for laying chairs in
a comedy club that you know,the same way we all do. And
it has worn off for me fourteenyears later, but it has for a
lot of people that I know.They're like, you know, they're a
bit fucking burn from the road andstuff like that, whereas I'm still going
(14:15):
giddy. So when I meet thelikes you who's still giddy about it,
it brings me such joy, doyou know the kind of way Yeah,
well, we're all nerds from there, Like all of us are so excited,
and I think we all also whatmakes it good. I think we're
all kind of people people if youget me in terms of like we're excited
(14:39):
for like the audience members to comein. We're excited to meet people,
to chat to people in the breakor chat to people after before have a
laugh. We're all mates at theend of the day. Any art form
or any industry shouldn't be about,as you said, like politics, really
like there's none of that's you justgo in and have a laugh, doesn't
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matter kind of who you are.Really like, everyone's kind of welcome there
and we're all there to have funand as well as obviously through the hard
second work that goes into it,but we're there to also have a really
good time. And I think that'swhat part of what makes the focus that
was like that you people, peopleis a good is a good phrase for
people, people because aside from eventhe audience members, like everybody seemed to
(15:24):
be very happy to to really immersethemselves in everybody's sets. You know,
they're kind of way like like everybodywas hanging on each other's words. I
was like, yes, this iswhat this is what the comedy club is
supposed to be, Like the comicsdown the back, even even when does
awkward bit might come, but it'sa classics singer from the from the comic
(15:46):
and everybody else like, oh Jesus, you're loving it down the back because
you're like, yeah, that's forus, that's bitiness for us. Yeah,
yeah, those little bits like weall was great as well is um,
we all want each other to doreally well. Like there isn't any
(16:07):
I don't know what you call him, and there's no I've heard people in
its tubs all around the place ortropes you're in America. I think it's
it's it can be common that youwant someone else to the post you look
better, which I think is ait's so backwards first of all, Like,
no, if you want to bethe best, you kind of you
(16:30):
just try your best, do yourbest, and that's what you can do.
Shouldn't want someone else to do badly. All want each other to be
as best as we can, andwe always kind of help each other try
and do that. You know,Yeah, I don't know, I suppose
I maybe I just don't see it. Maybe I'm naive. I don't see
it that much in in stand upin Ireland, but I definitely like a
(16:51):
gigged a bit in American I didsee it all right, you know,
or there's but there's almost there's almostas just like everything fucking American, they
overdo it to the point they fuckingnearly ruins stand up. You know,
you're like, Eric, this issu must be good crack too, as
well as being professional like what they'reall, you know, hard doing notes
and then they get that stage youknow, it's a pilot shite that flows
out and you're like that was shitwhere where it's all the fucking just grinding
(17:15):
it up. Man, You're like, how about to be funny? Be
funny. First, Well, Ithink that that's I mean, just as
you know, America in general isvery grind mentallicy, you know who's working
the hardest. It's kind of dogeat dog just by nature, like in
a lot of things. Like yousee how business is done, and it's
(17:37):
very like grind, grind, grimes. And I think when you're put under
pressure to succeeds, um, thatcan dampen the creative process. Yeah,
I think so. I think it'sI think so sometimes that sort of um,
not militia, but just sort ofyou kind of if someone else does
(17:59):
badly and you do better. Um, I think it's sort of a little
bit right out of that I needto do well. I need to do
well because there are so many peoplewho are doing the exact same thing as
me and doing it just as hard. And you know, but I think
maybe in Arlens, I think aswe're a bit more easy going and were
(18:26):
it would kill me to see somebodydying, you know, dying in the
hole, like you know what Imean, Like I saw I saw it
for the first time in a whilea few weeks back. And he's a
guy, he's such a nice man. I can i couldn't watch it.
I swear to God, I couldn'twatch it. And I could watch I
watch anything, but Jesus Christ,I had to walk out of the room,
like this is too much. Ican't, I can't, no,
(18:49):
no, And there was nothing allall the pump lass I was doing at
the back just weren't working. Whateverit was. It was just oil met
water on that particular occasion for him, whatever it was, it just wasn't
And I think he was might havebeen a bit ye stage rusty too,
that he didn't have the gear changewhere you point out the elephant in room,
go, well, that wasn't fuckingMorgan. Right, let's try this.
(19:11):
You know, he's plowed on,which is like, you know,
Jesus Christ, I'm sorry, Ihave to step out of the room.
Can't watch this. Yeah it's hard. It's hard to watch. And yeah,
it can just happen. It canjust see a nice where that happens.
It could be a bunch of differentthings. But yeah, it's hard
to watch. It was I didn't. I was misinterpreted. I was probably
(19:33):
listened to the My New show.What you were talking about? Did you
say you were originally were you were? You raised in England or how much
time did you spend in England.I was run in England, didn't spend
much time there. I was thereuntil I was riding, and then we
moved because my mom is Irish andmy father's in English. So my my
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father stayed in England and my twosisters who were born before me, the
youngest they were, they stayed inEngland's with their month or my half sisters.
So I was very back and forth. Even when we moved to Ireland.
I was still in England a fewtimes every year, and I still
go over quite enough lot, Likehalf the family are over there, so
(20:15):
we're they based in Essex and Ihave yeah there, I've my one of
my sisters on the Hertfordshire Essex borderand then the rest of my family or
Essex. Yeah, I was goingto say because in my Irish head and
got trendy for gigs stopping in London. Of course it's not Essex is a
whole other county away, like yeah, yeah, it's I I stay.
(20:40):
I tend to stay in London.Uh stity itself. I could like where
I'm from. His right to sidestands to the airport, so it would
be easy, but like if you'rethere, if you're in a gig and
then you have to get back tothe Essex at stupid o'clock in the morning,
and it's costing you loads of moneyand it's such easier stay of course,
But I was like what I wastalking about with you on your set,
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and it's rare I would I wouldcome up to somebody and speak afterwards,
because let people do their own thing. But Jesus Christ night, like
you had it, and the factthat you've you'd only started in twenty nineteen,
two year fucking layaway and then backin two twenty two, so that
technically is only about six months,Like where did the comedy come from?
(21:22):
Because you had the go of somebodywho was at it a few years and
had made fuck ups. Actually,do you know what I mean? To
the point that you'd corrected yourself bythe time I saw you. That was
what was astounding me, was likethat what the fuck? Do you know
what I mean? There was enoughto you were able to read the room
enough like like like was there fiercepersonalities at home or something like? Or
where was that buil from? Likebecause you don't pull that out your whole
(21:45):
being able to spot. Okay,there's fucking twenty English lads there. I'll
placade them with this, and thenI'm going to plow into my set,
like what was the you have youany idea or the just because people often
ask me and I'm going, Idon't know, so I know, I'm
actually feel free to say I don'tknow what I'm I don't know, I
(22:07):
don't know, I am, Idon't know. I've been I've been writing
for like since I was a child, Like it was something I did every
day and it's something I still do, whether it's your direct jokes or whether
it's just writing about my day oror whatever. Um, I've always loved
storytelling. Um I love seeing ofIt sounds so cliche when I say it,
(22:30):
but whenever there's something that's kind offunny, it like it it sticks
in my brain. Like they seea try and see, not try and
see. I just do kind ofsee the funny bits of day to day
and I suppose yeah, and thatjust builds up into it fast. That
takes that takes a good long whileto develop that brain. Like, so
(22:52):
I'm just wondering, like like they'remost being good correct personalities grown up for
you to or at least I supposethe writing side of things would force you,
force you to be more observant,like but to get that brain where
you go, you know, plantfucking guess you know what I mean,
and see and see it and breakit down because that normally takes a year
or to two years, if notthree years for and fucking no never for
(23:15):
some people like But that was why, That's why I was shocked when you
said, YEA started back up intwenty twenty two. What it was,
I don't I've I've always loved standup like since I was a child,
and I don't know, it justsort of it was something that I was
(23:36):
like, I love this so much. And the differences that I'm not I'm
not actually the one doing it.I'm not on the stage. Why you
know, when you see something oryou have such a vested interest in something
and it's like, well why aren'tI Why aren't I doing it? And
um and yeah, I don't know. It's it's fun as well, like
(23:59):
I love playing with people, Likein my day to day I'm a very
social person and I love having alaugh with people in general. So if
I'm coming onto the stage, suddenlyI have, you know, fifty people
in front of me that I canhave fun with, and there are a
bunch of really fun English lads,you know. And it's just that particular
(24:19):
instance came from that. Isn't thatinteresting? Because that's very much how I
approach it, that I love havingcrack with people, and now you've given
me more people to have the crackwords, and it's a it's a great
place to get your brain too.But because a lot of people come out
it from almost I won't say wrongbecause it's sucking up to you, what
did you do? But a lotof people kind of come out of going
(24:41):
it's about me. I need toget through this and get this right for
me to make me feel good.We're like, no, it's all about
all of us, really the crack. And you could just be the conduit
to crack if you don't mind,because I know how to bring the crack.
Is that all right? If Ibring the crack and everybody else paid
to have the crack brought to them, you're the crack waiter. So I
yeah, what I tried to rememberhaving this chat with you know, Terry
(25:03):
Alderton or Alderton I should say,and He took years for that to hit,
years for that to hit before herealized, oh, it's about them.
I'm here to make them laugh,not to get me through this moment
and feel good about myself. It'slike, yeah, Jesus, And it
took he reckoned twenty years. Ittook him to get to that point.
(25:26):
Terry Alderton is hilarious. I've actuallyi've seen him. I think i've seen
him live wife and it was whenI saw him, this was about twenty
nineteen, twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, I think worth the times I saw
him, and it was very hewas he was picking out people in the
crowd and it wasn't like taking peopleout of making fun of him. It
(25:48):
was taking people out so we canall have a lot together. And it's
it's enabling crack. You're a crackenabler, Like that's what people are going
to do suddenly. Yeah, you'reYou're the one on stage and they're fifty
people in front of you, butthere are also people. There are fifty
people in front of you and aroundthem are four yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah yeah, they canall have fun with You're just the one
(26:10):
like feeding you know, oxygens witha flame almost and that's fun. That's
a lot. I did a gigwith him for ORT and it was brilliant
to watch it as comedians because itwas a couple of the audience members said
he kind of chose weren't getting itat all at all at all, like
you know, and that that's whywe were at the back of the room
and just tears flowing down her facebecause he and he because he doesn't have
(26:32):
to let off because it's Terry Aldertonand he's that character on stage. Yeah,
he's doing he's doing the bells,you know, the thing with the
bells. He's like, yeah,he doesn't want to bet what's the best
quiven the bells. And it's thisfather and son who clearly looked like they've
just stood out of a tractor andthey're just sitting on hot and it's it's
on YouTube. It was you lookjust look up Terry Alderton laughter in the
(26:55):
air and it cuts the way tothese guys just kind of gone hot and
they're too big box as a blokes, you know, like they're just father
and son just sitting going yeah,yeah, good idea. I love that
at eat blows on regardless fair playto him, fair play to him.
Because I did a gig this afew weeks ago now, and it was
(27:21):
in a venue that like a lotof my material. I'm like, okay,
yeah, you know, there're gonnabe some people who this is not
their their vibe, They're not theirimmediate vibes. And I went in and
I was talking about like gender andstuff like that, and there were just
three lads eighteen years old, drinkingbumbers staring at me like I had three
(27:45):
heads, and they were trying tofigure out what was going on. And
it's like they they're not having agood time here. I'm not having a
good time here. I kind ofI might have a bit more fun if
I can talk about something else orkind of get off stage. Because of
my clouds through it, I justdon't think it wouldn't very well for them
(28:07):
or for us. But at theend of it, it was a fun
time, and I was it's dauntinglooking at three people who are in the
front and they do not know what'sgoing on, you know, would be
fair like to be fair you haveyou What en armored me was that you
had a fantastic charm in how likeyou thirty you know, twenty or thirty,
middle age whatever about the rest ofyou on I'm picking these boys out
(28:27):
because they were in a group together, but they were like middle aged blokes.
And then you brought up the brilliantlyfucking crafted way of charming the story
of gender and these lads you knewbuy them. There were thirty blokes over
for a soccer game or something.It wasn't in their wheelhouse either, but
(28:48):
yet you still managed to have acharming way of explain that having jokes throughout,
and they're still going, fuck it, there's jokes. I'm on board,
you know what I mean. Andyou could see it they were like
what at first, because they're like, I don't know, do you know?
I don't know, and then stillfinding jokes to laugh at throughout us
like, oh find that. Ifthere's jokes, then what that's fine by
(29:11):
us. I think it was SarahPasco who says that's a difference, like
because Sarah Pasco Hea she talks aboutlike often quite political things, and she
says, there has like base levelor the comedy show, there has to
be jokes. You're either you know, when you're up on stage, you're
either doing a comedy set or you'redoing his head talk and I came to
(29:36):
to comedy. Um, so ifI'm choosing whatever, someone like, if
I choose to talk about anything,it's gonna be funny. That's my job,
That's what I'm there to do.Yeah, everybody gets that. Everybody
gets that they're just barking at peoplelike Yeah, sometimes it's a fine line,
especially if you're passionate about something aswell. Then you know, sometimes
(30:00):
passion can be confused. Um intranslation you're trying to bring it to like
a comedy stage for example. Um. But yeah, it was like,
there has to be jokes and alsoI want to get up there and have
a good time as well. That'sto be stuff I enjoy talking about.
But sometimes, like I looked atthe demographic and I was like, Okay,
(30:21):
I think this is firstly a numberone. This is a big group
of people, and they all seemlike a lot of fun. I think
it can have a lot of funhere if I like have a little bond
with them, um, and thenI can get into just the other stuff,
you know, that the gender stuffthat I usually talk about them.
By that stage, you know,I've made friendships with them and they're not
that I think that they wouldn't listen. But it's just like they're kind of
(30:44):
going, oh, actually, yeah, but we'll give this, let's see
what's going on, and oh classthey are jokes, fantastic, Oh this
is this is a great time,you know. And instead of like plunging
straight into us and but that youknow, I'm missing that, it wouldn't
be the worst thing in the world. That's why I decided to do and
at some time, yeah, becausethat's the thing. It doesn't matter if
(31:06):
it's if it's an obscure thing tothe people in the audience, because I
remembered early doors, like bringing uphow like I used to I used to
fight, mma fight, and thisis kind of like fourteen fifteen years ago.
I love the good old scrap,but trying to get that across the
line to people who are like,what the fuck is he talk about?
So you again, you had tofind, well, what will get me
on the leg in the door hereand then we'll go into the time.
(31:27):
You know, most of the timeI got almost strangled. It's more than
anything like, but it was,but again it was it was it was
too off the beaten track originally forjust going right here we go. It's
God, Jesus Christ, what's whatit's on about? Like you know,
but the same same thing. Becauseyou jumped into the football thing immediately.
It was like a very good guywould have been folk actually with that football
(31:48):
thing, because I would have been, I've nothing for you. Lets I
have nothing for you. I don't. It's not my bag, like you
know what I mean? It was, but I found it right. The
wrong word yet charming and refreshing.It's the wrong word. Enamoring is what
I went. That's how you fuckingdo it. Now see that. Now
everybody, there should be more youngcomedians in here watching this. That's how
you do it. You're fucking yourub their ears first and then go.
(32:12):
Now I have to tell yourself andthere'll be a raka jokes in it,
right, but maybe a subject matterthat you have no idea about. But
what was great for like, whatwas great was that there was a subject
matter that I didn't know much about, because you know what I mean,
you don't meet meet many non binarypeople. Well I certainly don't anyway,
but I'm terribly interested in it becauseanything I don't know about, you know
what I mean? If I don'tknow how to drop an engine out of
(32:32):
a car. I want to knowabout that too. So when you meet
somebody who's who's an expert on nonbinary it's it's incredibly interesting. I mean,
like, do you find yourself goinggreat, I tell you all about
it? Or its like error fuckingread about the time you'd be grand Like
is that where like where do youstand on it? Like because you seem
(32:52):
passionate? Obviously you are passionate,Like, but where like is it something
there you go the funk? HaveI to tell you about that? Far?
It's hardly that interesting? Or isit something that you go right sit
yourself down there? You know?I mean you have jokes around it which
are tremendous, But is that whereyou leave it? And I think,
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first of all, I wouldn't considermyself like an expert on the gender.
It's just the fact that this ismy gender and I happen to experience life
as this person, and that's it'sreally only my experience. I can talk
about m because I know people whohave PhDs and gender studies are far more
(33:36):
knowledge about all the nuances of gender. And but it's like there's a lot
of um, like really horrible newsconstantly about people who are trans and non
binary, and kind of basically it'svery very dark stuff that goes on.
(34:01):
And I think it's it's a strugglefor LGBTQ people because this is like our
daily life and it's you know,it's hard, and it's there's a lot
of darkness to us. And that'sfor fifth gender people or people who are
strays or you know, if theymeet a transfer non binary person or they
(34:25):
get something wrong like pronouns or theyget whatever wrong, they can feel almost
like they're being jumps down their throatthe people are on the other end,
so they transfer nonbinary people can oftenfeel like these people don't understand, and
you get that sort of friction andit really depends on the person to person
as someone who again just happens tobe non binary. And this is my
(34:52):
experience, and I'm quite a happyperson in general, and it's just something
that I take great pride in andthat just comes on to stage. I
think it's not my job to educatepeople about it. I think people need
to do their own and their ownresearch. I get a lot of people
coming up to me after sets goingoh that was so great, Will and
(35:14):
then they mis gender me, andI'm like, Okay, where are you
listening And you just said at all, Like if you're saying you learned a
lot, but that's not I'm nottheir teacher. Um, It's just something
that I I think there's so muchbeauty in it, Like there really is.
There's such a depth of things totalk about it, Like if you're
going on stage, you need stuffto talk about it. This is the
(35:37):
stuff that goes on in my dailylife, you know. Um, and
that's why that just happens to bewhat I talk about on stage. So
and it's also great because I don'treally know you've non binary. I like
there are Jesus I think I know, like may be for maybe for trans
(36:04):
and non binary comedians that says that'sin Irelands. I don't. I went
over to I did a non binaryand women run gig. There was one
trans woman and I would see Iwas so excited. I went up.
I was like, oh, Itraveled for I was just outside of me
(36:28):
all these like if there are anyother non binary people there? And it
was all women and obviously I lovewomen, but I was like, I
was really hoping to meet some moretrans people for non binary people, and
there was one that kind of halfnude. She's lovely, really really fund
and a brilliant comedian. Um,and I go to That's one of the
reasons I go up to London.I've been going up to London once or
(36:51):
twice a month now to do mostlyqueer gigs because I'm trying to meet as
many queer comedians. And I'm acutelyaware as well that, like I the
stuff I talk about and the demographicsthat I come from, it's quite neat
and I think I like, Iwant to challenge myself as well, like
(37:12):
I want to see what other queercomics are doing. I don't want to
just revel in the facts of thetime. You know. Oh, I'm
the only non binary comedian and quirklike I want to know others, you
know, so um yeah, Ilike the only the only other person I
know trans is Alia Rourke an adderon the podcast, and Ali was the
only I was like, you havea locked down you have you have locked
(37:36):
down if you play your guards right, like, yeah, you've cornered the
markets. Yeah, she's she's fantasticas well. She's really really really sound
like you know what I mean forsome reason, I keep on running into
her, like in just random partsof like on the way to something,
not gigs, but just like we'llrun into her sometimes at the petro station.
(37:59):
Just had enough. Oh yeah,me too, right, okay,
just but it's it's yeah, it'sit's it just it intrigued, not intrigue.
I'm using all the wrong enamor Ithink was the word in how you
went about it. Do you knowwhat I mean? Because it's like,
yes, this not say and I'mpushing the spokesperson thing on you because it's
still comedy at the end of theday. But it was like this for
(38:21):
jelly brain people who are full ofpints, this is how if for any
like, it was a great templatefor anybody who's trying to implement something like
if you're coming from I don't know, pig farming and you're trying to implement
it into your set, and youknow it'd be too abstract for people like
if I start talking about rules shitin London, the fuck do you know?
But my third visitor, I wasable to find a way, you
(38:43):
know what I mean, because they'relike, oh, I get you,
I get you now, right rightright, So you need a bit of
you need a bit of a sessionfirst, and then we'll get into how
we used to fight off the backof attractor. Great, right, let's
get into it. You'll be readyfor it then. Yeah. But it's
a good it's a great template thatI saw, Like nice, but how
and on a day like you weregigging? Where were you getting last night?
(39:05):
Because I'm interested to see how muchyou're pushing, like how much gigging?
Because I will be because it wasit David was the chap's name that
was there last night? Is itDavid David who when we were gigging the
David's name, there's David. Hewould be that he would have been talking
(39:25):
about like yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah again learned about
it. I's like Jesus Christ isnot Nelson's educational fantastic but he was saying
that, Yeah, he was sayingthere was a bunch of bunch of gigs
after opening up around Cork, whichis fucking tremendous. Um. Yeah,
it's brilliant. Yeah, I'd be. I'd be absolutely haunting it because I'm
(39:47):
I've got a new, a newshow to build, so I'll be showing
up in all those places just beingYeah, how's it going right, let's
talk about him, you know,But I just if nothing else for the
enthusiasm that seems to be built anif you could have comedy seven nights a
week in a not gigantic city,do you know it's yeah, it's at
(40:09):
it's it's brilliant and um, likeyeah, the fact we do we have
seven we have comedy seven nights aweek. If you wanted to do seven
gigs in a week, like it'spossible, and um. As well as
that, it's like they're not um, they're not like small little gigs where
(40:29):
you have three people either. Youknow, it's if you go in there
and there are a lot of thecomics that you see on the circus and
all inequid Mood. I think theCork comedy scene at the moment as well
is particularly gorgeous. Like everyone,I like, just to echo what they
said earlier, like everyone's really supportive. Everyone wants each other to do well.
(40:50):
Like there's no when I say rivalry, you have rivalry in terms of
just like I want to be greator whatever. It's every one like pushing
each other to do to do aswell as possible, like right now,
like after after this, I'm goingdown to the Comedy Bunker above one spot
fall across o'dunna who he runs thatand Chrystal Leary's headlining and Martin Angolo.
(41:15):
I think it's popping in for abit. And there's a brilliant lineup.
Yesterday I was on in the comedyCarvern in Collins with an unbelievable lineup Thomas
Lawrence and John James Tilly. Theywere headlining and they were fantastic. Then
I have I'm being resident in theCoco. I have Thursday, Friday,
(41:37):
Saturday, I'm in the Coco,and then I do the Last Gaff which
is in the Liberty. It's anopen mic and that's that's always great fun.
That's run by Adam Raymonds and it'sit's fantastic. You have Crew Comedy
and the Path they're run by thesame lads, Jack Kirby and Um and
Ray Murphy have there's more Oh,and then you have Yeah. Then you
(42:04):
have you have Raredence through brayin FrancisDoes. There's Rebel Comedy. It's an
open mic Inverdence on Sundays and andthen you know you again you have callings
again like there's someone doing the workwith progressor you do have other gigs.
They could be on a Saturday andjust loads of gigs popping up the place,
you know, and it's fantastic andeveryone's well, no, I'm going
(42:24):
to actually, yeah, I'm goingto annoy the shit out of you know,
but messages asking for those details ofthose people's names, because do you
know what it does? I don't. I don't know if you have you
given Belfast haven't yet we get thathooked up. That that is a gear
change. I'll tell you something.Nothing in the world is happening like what's
(42:45):
happening in Belfast right now. Nothingfor the last four or five years.
I know. There's no place canpossibly because they have a tiny population.
They're not they're probably about the sizeof Limerick. Yet they have this incredible
amount of theaters and everything else aroundthe city. But they're thirst for fucking
anything is incredible that doesn't involve afucking sectarian violence and all that kind of
(43:08):
stuff. It is amazing to seehow like people people fucking would wear merch
from my podcast to a gig,and I don't. And if you imagine
somebody down here doing they'd no morefucking where, like especially somebody local to
you, like you know what Imean, like local before your paper could
(43:30):
be your biggest fan, but they'dnever tell you down here up there,
no shame, no shame. Maythink you're fucking amazing. I'm like,
yes, I thought the same thing, thanks very much. But it's like
every club full, every club fullfull, full to the fucking rafters.
Any of the boys that are takinga rip out of it, any of
anybody's taking a rip out of itup there. You really dedicate yourself,
(43:52):
like you to sell the Ulster Hall, No, biggie, what you're aiming
for probably a couple of years time, sec arena arena Colin get us about
to do? Is six sold outan arena show? You're like, what
the in a tiny city, afucking tiny place every again another place.
When I head up, I getthere super early. Now we'd go for
(44:13):
food and stuff and we hang out, we break the shit out of each
other, like there's no nobody's allowedto have their emotions at the table because
it's just ripping, ripping, ripping. But everybody gets the club unbelievably early
and notes and whatever. But you'rejust dicking about. Fuck acting about and
then boom, right, let's hitthe stage and it's it is. What
(44:35):
I'm seeing now is the seeds,the seedlings of what happened there, maybe
nine ten years ago, happening nowin Cork, with the same vibe.
People are wanting the other person todo well. There was a great buzz
back and forth. Yeah, andit's it can only be like you know,
you go all the way through itand you're like oh, and you
end up at you know, ChrisKent, You're like, yes, and
one of the sounds of people evermeet, you know, so from the
(44:59):
top to the atom, I seeit. I would hope, and I'd
be very excited that it would turnit into something like Belfast my god,
oh my god. But yeah,we'll get you. We'll get just arted
up up there, like because there'llbe a couple of clubs up there were
you'll be like like delicious, likeyou come away almost spoiled a small but
because you're like, i'd say,that's the greatest I know more right needed
(45:21):
on that that's perfect rant And thenyou and it's not like but you because
you just get so much from them. I don't know what it is,
but they just fucking love comedy andit's just midweek weekend, doesn't make a
difference, doesn't make a difference.You'll get a crowd every fingle night.
So that's when you say that aboutCork. That's what's getting me excited,
(45:42):
like, oh, could we havean they're Belfast Jesus Christ. And again
they've only come on so like Ladsaid, I knew they were they were
decent, but they've come on sostrong because of that, because there's a
hint of competitiveness obviously, but youneed that with your friends. But also
there's a I get go on,I did say it, it's worth saying,
go on, say it. Andthen when you're when you hang around
(46:06):
with other comics, you're just goingto go and be a proper comic on
stage, you know, you know, yeah, yeah, I'm sorry.
It's it's it's the what you're saying, like with the with your fellow comics,
when you have them spurring you on, it really like oh, it
just makes all the difference because youget you basically run up on stage like
(46:28):
oh I'm out sided literally Like that'sagain because it con puts me in a
good mood anytime I walk you know, commediate hug, like and all the
rest of you're like, yeah,fine, giddeo, let's go because they
know is warmth already. You're likethis everybody is on the same vibe.
Like, you know, two peoplecame up and before the show, like
(46:49):
can can he have a picture?Like it was like her child, it
was her husband's Can you have apicture? Which it was like Christ,
of course, Christ, can Ihave a picture with g you know,
like I'm irish moment please really quicklyadd we just but they'd already bought tickets
to Colins in November for my show. It's like, but you know,
I can tell you that. Andit's like and they were so happy and
(47:09):
they were so happy to see allthe other comics and so you're like,
oh this there wasn't a you know, there wasn't a cold heart in the
room, if you know what Imean. It's like, this is what
pure artists apposed to be. Likeyeah, and oh you have people at
the end of every show coming upto you, um, shaking your hand
or saying you know, well,don are telling you that they had a
(47:31):
really great nice or whatever, likeyou have a last with them afterwards.
It's all it's all of very grace, all of very great vibe. I
hate you've been too much. Iknow this. It's just very London thing
to say. Vibes. Man.You know, we should invent we should
give them a word for it.Maybe what's it? We'll find an Irish
(47:52):
word. Do you know a niceIrish word that would fit in for vibes?
I think what would it be?I don't know. I feel like
air. There's a lovely air aboutthe place. It would be something very
very almost vague, almost you wouldn'twant to be too. I think a
whole new word. Like I hearda word the other day that's an oldie
(48:12):
world the Irish word, and Ihadn't heard it like fifteen or twenty years.
My mother used it, and it'sa word. It's a great word
for beans, having a sporadic notionto do something. So say you just
went ra fucking I'm going paint inthe house and that's the end of it.
It could be explained away with oneword. Yeah, erra I took.
I got an old faghari. It'slike a FAGHERI isn't that a great
worry? Oh wow, I haven'theard that. I don't know that a
(48:37):
great word, Saghari. Well that'sa fantastic word. Oh I might start
using that again again. As asfar as using it when I was four,
I might start isn't it like it'sstraight away now more things, because
it's not like forcing an agenda onpeople. But people will get it.
Most Irish people would get it,and the phone didn't explaining it to anybody
(48:58):
Else's like, well this is whatit means a day because it's a fun
word to say, Sagary, Yeah, yeah, Jesus yeah, yeah,
yeah, that deserves a bit ofa comeback. That's great, So vibes
we need to write. So beforethe next time I see you, we'll
try and come up and have acorrect, more Irish word for vibes.
Do you know that? So allhas spares two is three words like it's
(49:20):
not it's too much, but weneed to find I bet there is a
like an angelic word or like avery written word, you know, something
built into old Irish that that givesyou the the atmosphere of a rumor an
area. Betchy there is well youknow what, I've got thirty two words
for fields. By staring at that, you would definitely have a yeah,
(49:45):
yeah, yeah. If there's someonewho does it, sends, so we'll
workshop. Yeah. Workshop, that'sa fantastic word for it. Um.
This has been absolutely tremendous. Thankyou so much for coming on. I
know I'm conscious that you're heading totake gigan. I love that. No,
that you're heading the gig immediately afterthis. My gigs, my weekend
gigs don't start it tomorrow night,so I'm like, this evening will be
(50:06):
just relaxed. Well I say that, but it's not going to be relaxing.
I'm a no, I'm a maniac. I can't this is If I
wasn't doing this, I'd be doingsomething like I can't SIT's still. I'm
the worst person ever to watch thetelevision with. I can't. I can't
sit still during it, during anyprogram. So you're not alone there,
(50:27):
brilliant Come here. What have yougot a calendar in front of you?
By any chance? Can do?I gave gigs calendar November tenth. What
are you? What are you doingthere? We are let's see. I
don't think I am doing anything beminybamboo lash November tenth is pretty free,
(50:49):
probably I haven't really checked that far. What's happening for me in for my
new show. Where else the mostone of the most beautiful places. I
would love us. I would loveus. I can't fucking wait. And
we'll have a new word for vibesbefore then, an Irish word where it
(51:10):
actually means yeah. Whether it's onecorner or whoever, whoever comes up with
it, whatever, whatever that wordis, that's what's going to be.
That's what's going to be the atmosphereof the nice. It's nice. We
may end up having to do twobecause it looks like there's going to be
a lot of people buying tickets.So but either way, Collins as Collins
(51:31):
and I'm putting you in the bookfailing something else, or you'll flick over
the go ah fuck. I meanit's a very cool place in London or
whatever. But other than that,we will get you hooked up with Belfast
too. I say we, Iwill, and I'll I'll just I'll message
get us right now. Let's seewhat way you're set up and get you
(51:51):
hooked up with a couple of gigsup there. Nice one man, I'll
be class. This has been deadly, deadly not a good word either.
We need we need a better worddeadly too, more Irish words, because
we're building. We're trying to buildan empire here in Munster of what they
have an Ulster right now? Umwell, I mean I'm in Cork.
(52:15):
I know you're you're up in work. We said Dave, and I think
Dason is a great one for atleast dayson will do absolutely perfect right to
let's see you again. I'm gonnamess paper pepper to hell out of you
when it comes to people's gigs inCork because I need to run this new
show. And totally okay, totallyLEGI where is do you? Do?
(52:37):
You want people to follow you?If you If you do, people can
follow me. People can follow me. There was a great clip, actually
if they don't, does a greatclip went up? Was it two days
ago? Three days ago? Ofyou and you? It wasn't in the
coco. It was in the coco. It was in the coco. Yeah,
(52:58):
that I didn't realize that was beingI didn't realize that was put up
on my phone to start to growmental help. There are a lot of
there are a few people who wereSomeone commented God saved the King very strangel
so a wide spectrum of people whohave now followed me, which is bananas
um. But if they want,if people want to follow me, I'm
(53:22):
just at Sierra Barnetz on Instagram.That's where Sierra Barnez aka Kiera Barnes aka
real name being. I would deprivewhatever you're selling here, if you're a
property mogul, I'm I mean,that's that's the brand man that's trying to
(53:43):
be a landward house here because that'sthe popular thing at the moment. No,
god, no, and yeah,but that's where I am. That's
who I am. Tremendous. Thankyou very very much, Thank you very
very much. Enjoyed the rest ofyour evening, man, and my thanks
again to Kira. Or should Isay, see here a baron is what
a cool I'm buying whatever? Seehere? A baronet is a selling anyway
(54:05):
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