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Well, what's the crack? Everybody? Welcome to another episode at the Tomay
show How Are You Keeping You Will? It's Friday the seventh, the seventh
of July. If you don't know, how are You Keeping Live? Podcast
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I'm very, very excited. Sogo to the link in the show notes
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to keep you entertained. Anyway,moving on to today's guests. They are
the returning gentlemen of one of thebest podcasts out there in Monster Fuzz.
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I absolutely love these two lads.Do you know, Like we talked for
forty five minutes before we kicked offthis, and you see the length of
it, Mother of Divine Jesus,we could have talked and we talked again
for another half an hour afterwards.That's how easy and how fun it is
to hang out with these two absolutebrilliant podcasters would absolute message as well.
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So sit back and enjoy. Andif you haven't subscribed to the Monster Fuzz
podcast, do but enjoy my timebecause I did with Robin Aiming of Monster
Fuzz. Well, I'm delighted andexcited to have back debdes from Wexford.
I'm pretty sure that would make agreat band name. It is, of
course, rob and Aiming of MonsterFuzz. How are the main keeping you,
will Lord? Oh my god?Never better? How are you,
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Bud Jesus? I'm all right,I'm all right. I know, I
like I came in there all radiolike, pretend that we weren't talking about.
Yeah, I liked it like thata lot since the last time,
I know, I got a newminclads in the new chair, and I
don't know what to do since Idon't know English or something. Sitting there,
I don't feel comfortable. I justhave to say that straight out the
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game there two boys. People willhave known the two lads. I think
there's, as we've talked about before, there's been there's a fair old vent
diagram between the two. Was myshow? I changed name. I don't
know if you noticed that I leftbook shot behind. You're this is Toma
Mandy Show. And I was like, yeah, yeah, I know,
it's it's it's really big headed ofme to actually name it after myself,
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but it was. It was Igot a kind of my knock, my
come upance, but my coat tailspulled by Andy Rowe. He has the
Andy Rowe Show. He's part ofa very big podcast group in America or
in the UK. And he waslike, fuck, are you calling that
fucking anything but your name? Ohyeah, it's just the specific to talk
about, like sporting wise. Iwent, no, Well, then call
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it after your fucking in because Iguarantee if you ask your patroons, everybody
just calls it Tomamndy show. Turnsout he was one hundred percent right.
It took me like two hundred andfifty episodes to let my Irish ego allow
it, or the lack of ego, you know about like rather than Robin
the Rabin name and Monster show,which is still be a great name,
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a good name. Actually wid youfuck did I just start? I'm as
freaker right now? Actually the rsfuck. New logos needed, new logos
needed. We don't get that Trumpthat fucking did you the last time when
you were on Oh yeah, that'sright, the fucking us in lawsuit time.
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Yeah, I've always told that storyto a few people. Want to
go a shure, I have toget in a fell in Taipei. There
he's going to dot dot dot dotfucked for listeners who don't know what we're
talking about. Basically, really quickly, we we had on the five dot
com to do it, which isactually quite antiquated now because he would use
my journey right, you get yourAI generated log on because that robs from
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everyone, not just one person.It's much better. That's a communist kids
a little bit from everyone. Butit's yeah, not like we kind of
we bought a logo. We thoughtit was ology and then maybe six months
to A year into the podcast,we got we got a message from someone
and was like, that's the artfrom my book. I were like,
oh, that's interesting. We werelike, never heard of it. No,
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to be fair, to be fair, he was. He was very
rude in his initial message, assumingwe were a pair of thieves. But
we did that. We mended,We mended that wall. I'd assume we
were a fair We still are toa certainly, like, but should I
still get strikes on YouTube for myown my own which my own intro,
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which I bought, But I do, I will, I will be needing
because well, he him and youdo an amazing intro. I know,
we thought, yeah, he's ag guy. Now do is we bought
off the fellow who who wrote allthe music with a T shirt IM T
shirts of I don't know how that'sgoing to hold up objectively. Did he
get that? Yeah? I thinkhis white wears the most of the time.
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So once he gets rid of her, he's coming after us. That's
all I know, man, that'sall I know. She's getting the T
shirt and the divorce. Yeah.But we I I want to see I've
always well, I've asked you acouple of times back on and just trying
to link up and tie together andwhatnot. It's always a tricky faith.
But and of course you're in adifferent time zone being in Wexford and Sonny
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southeast down hare Song, all theMexicans gone around. I tell you,
it's it's a It's an odd county, isn't it Like it's I like it.
There's I like Wicklaw, I likeWexford the favorite. There's a lot
going on in that from town totown there literally is like I was in
then Escorty a couple of months agoand it was a great gig. But
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like to use your own your ownterminology was full of crypted sleds. I'm
not there's lads with four arms andthree foken heads. I'm sure. I'm
actually surprised you made it out there, to be honest with the us,
that's like some wicker Man ship mightgo down there. That's That's what I
when I'm in and Escoordy, Ifeel like that one of us, Like
something's gonna happen to you though.How is every single direction up hill?
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How is every day? Imagine learnedthe drive there? I always got anxiety
driving through it up last I'm like, oh, Lord of Mercy, there's
actually, interestingly enough, not farfrom there as well. We were listening
to a podcast. It's a guythat we've had on a lot of tim
he's a friend of ours from Hehas a strange former's podcast. But he
had a guy on a guest hewas totally he was American, but totally
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on relate. It's also and hewas saying he was actually talking about Enniscordy
as well, and he said somethingsimilar. But there's also not too far
outside in Escorty. I suppose it'smore Carlo, but you've got them plenty
all as well, which is likeWitchy Castle. Have you ever been up
Clanny Alway? I definitely have,yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah. That's um So there'sall. There's like one of the oldest
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I suppose the oldest witchcraft sort ofplaces up in Cluny Golder in Ireland anyway,
and it's actually called the Temple ofIsis. It's not the or pg
Ice is supposed to be confused theConfused Mud, which which by the way,
are in Wexford. I'll let you. I'll tell you that bush it
that's not that's not them, that'snot the high lugs driving around that they
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love, you know, the lads. Those lads love Isis and there's a
lot of fellows in Wexford love ofhigh LUs. Do you know what It's
interesting you say that because I havea fact that you'd love, he would
love? Is that Eden dairy andAwfully is the occult capital of Ireland.
Is yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah. We we live near there once
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upon a time and I remember talkingto this woman in a vegetable vegetable guard
or vegetable shop. She's just wewere just chit chat about, you know,
alternative alternative because what did you Iknow, And she just brought up
and give all these different examples ofhow groups of Satanists and whatnot we'll meet
on certain Salsticism stuff. And Iwas like, are you sure not just
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the druid lads to love and ohno, no, no, these aren't
the druid lads. These lads willthe amount of sacrifices that have been found
in the forest around here and stuffin the way of crows and ship like
that. It was like right,awfully yeah, player which as well blair
witch and awfully, which in fairnessis yeah, you have to pick a
county. It would be awfully mostit would, wouldn't it. Yeah,
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it would be fair believe to bethe center of the universe at one point,
the center of the planet the westernhofessly or anyway, Yeah, awfully
believe it or not, that iswhere you're You're hitting this a lot.
This weird trime. I like it. I like it last I had no
intentions leads, but I'm full tothe guilds with fucking mushrooms right now.
So I just said, which thedruid kind kind? Yeah, I've been
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dabbling in linesman and shaggy lads,so I make them out some fucking speaking
in tongues before the end of theshow like nice nice lions Man is like,
that's a supplement chair. Oh,it's fucking powerful stuff on a stick.
You might be snugging to face offyour best friend. But I mean,
if we weren't all over zoom herewould probably be shifting. We'd being
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more money, I tell you that, much more money if we were doing
that. It's good. It's goodtak it's good tag for memory recall weird
stuff. You know, fuck me? Did I all right? So I
did actually get fucking suspended from schoolthat time. You know that should you
blank out of your brain? Yeahyeah, yeah like stuff that yeah,
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no, good memories, memories,not to be fair. Yeah, Gordo,
I was up with him and hegave me a alpha brain or whatever
it was. Yeah, I don'tknow if it was that specific. It
was basically the same thing, butit was loaded. Every pill was loaded
with lion's mane. And it's likedrinking I don't know, tell me if
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this is what your feeling. It'slike drinking twenty cups of coffee with none
of the jitters. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Like it's wild.
It's a wild sensation. If youhave something to be done to be
getting on with m say you gottaI don't know, you got an episode
to put together whatever beforehand, ifyou can lead the phone away from you
as which is the hour of athing, you know, but you will
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abs a fucking lootly get it done. And it's yeah it's But what I
find it good for is is recalllike say I'm doing I'm hosting a show,
whatever it's It buys you to fiveseconds brain. Now you kind of
as a comedian, you kind oftrained your brain to that anyway, But
it's nice to actually grease the wheelswith something healthy too, like rather than
just cranking a fucking monster into you'regoing right, everybody doing the house tonight,
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you know where you're just foaming thatthe fucking mouth like you know,
at least this just greases the wheelsnicely, like you know, yeah,
yeah, you do drink? Sorry, would you ever drink before you go
on to kind of candle ours alittle? No? No, no no,
say you would like the clarity theybecause if anything, it's well I
used to treat it as a competitionbetween me and them, but now in
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my later years I have absolutely kickedover to it's all about them and being
the professional who's going to garner agood evening for I'm the conduit to them
forgetting about the fucking mortgage, forgettingabout the wife that doesn't like him,
or the fella you know, orthe fucking prick of a neighbor. So
I don't I want them to beenjoy a drink, whereas if I'm to
be that guy, while I likeenjoying with joining in with them to degree
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not there, do you know whatI mean? But so I trained early
doors in never having a drink becauseif it's me against ge, I at
least have one advantage just that I'myou know. But now now I'm in
a place where I wouldn't do itbecause just disrespectful to the audience. It's
in that. And I don't getnervous either, I get really fucking excited.
Really, that's a huge thing tobe fair if you're just because usually
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I'll I'll medicate myself with a witha pointer too or something like just enough
to limber me up and get ridof the deep sense of unease I feel.
Yeah, you know and again,and I've never really, I've never
done stand up for me, itwas just music or when me and Rob
did our show other than but youknow, at least with music, it
can hide behind the music to acertain extent, Like I always stand up
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always felt like the most scarable format, like you're putting your you're putting your
your neck on the line, likearn't sis, or like we were we
were half curse. There's a twovolumes in their Brazilian valumes I brought back
from Rio, and so there waslike a father in the middle of it
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as well. Exactly. Yeah,everyone was like, I haven't brought me
a bay from Brazili. He goesman, it goes there. He's like,
I don't think that worked. Ithought I was Q. These ain't
shit. I don't have to work. And there was one I was tossing
and tarting. I said one ofthem benz all Dia fuck off. The
next morning, like Killian Murphy happened, the past was like strongest the definitely
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Yeah. I'd been mixing them withdry cherries and also seeing how flower I
can take it shown in some blacklives at the same time. Fuck it,
let's see what happens. Turn offthe phone, lads, I'm staying
in. Yeah, put on thenap. I'm lying down for an Yeah,
because you did your you did alive show in the in the Sugar
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Club, and a great spot todo because people get comfy, do you
know what I mean? There's agood egg. I've always I've done stand
up there a couple of times,and I nearly don't like how comfy people
get. Yeah, it's an armchair. Not telling you I want people
sitting on broken glass, but Ikind of want people upright and fucking yeah
in it. But when I wasat it, I was actually at one
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a gor those podcasts. I went, oh, this is what this room
is for Pete exact perfect, Butare sitting back. It's a you know,
there's a there's you know, drinks, the cars, right, It's
fucking perfect. It's the closest thing. I think. It's the closest venue
to what you're usually doing when you'relistening to a podcast outside of like intense
manual labor or maturation and yeah,yeah, chronic masturbation. Yeah, you're
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listening to how to Stop Masturbating podcastas you're destroying yourself. The next episode,
A Garden was brilliant, like likebecause he came down for it,
like he was just a helpful becauselike I don't know if you could yeah,
I'm sure you can remember your firstshould But it was just like Jesus,
like he sort of crossed the tsand dotted the eyes for us and
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made short everyone was having a goodnight, Like he was sending pizzas down
to everyone and fucking brought those drinksdown while we were on stage and stuff.
It was a great mites off.But yeah, definitely experience for sure.
Yeah, it's something similar now whenI did live my live show of
the two hundred episodes, it wasJoan lockdown. Really oh yeah right,
yeah, yeah, I shouldn't havesold as well as we did. But
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you look at where did you usedto that? Where did you do that?
Yeah? Always yeah, yeah it'sGordo and oh yeah, can't get
us? Yeah, of course,fucking Gordo show was fucking channeling his his
fucking his drinking, fucking boots intomyself and get us. Like so he
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was just hear what you're saying,talk away amongst yourselves there lass anyway,
and they wouldn't you know, butbut it was. It was absolutely warranted,
and I wouldn't. It wasn't inthe same vein at all as stand
up because how did you find that? Actually, Like I saw a live
podcast versus stand up, Like,how did you find that? What was
the differences? The most? Likethe big thing I noticed was what I
was kind of feeling internally, wasjeez, am I cheating these people out
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of this because I'm not We're notbanging out like we were coming out with
singers like we're doing now, havingthe banter like, but it didn't feel
like not curtailing. I'm not curtailingeverything for the people we're nearly amongst chatting
amongst ourselves. Yeah yeah, Andat the beginning, I was going,
no, what the fuck am I? What am I doing? This is
ford? And then I realized everybodywas leaning forward just this is actually what
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people do with podcast and they justlisten in. I was very same with
us. Yeah, so it's ina weird medium. I was kind of
going, this shouldn't really work,like podcasts are supposed to be in your
phone, but you're all here.But it was mental like this. There
was a bunch of people like itwas great, Like a load of the
patrons actually met up before and hada barbecue and they made a cake and
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everything with my face and it waslike like my very irishness couldn't deal with
the love. So oh no,I couldn't I to get really fucking medicating
on alcohol and only could I justshake hands and look people directly in that
not now you're right, like it'sfunny you should say, and you have
so much experience about myself and Iamm, we're kind of wrestling with the
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same things. Was like, whatdo they actually want from us, because
you're you're like you said you kindof even we did and we're not stand
up comics. Like you kind ofdo fall into that thing where you're reaching
for the laughs, you know,and you kind of you're like, that's
what we should be doing when we'reon stage is more watching kind of feel
like you're trying to figure it outand go, what the fuck am I
supposed to do? Her? Like, what do people want from me about?
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It works out when the in theend and all, it's a great
time. Yeah, brill, Ididn't. I had seen. I felt
okay in my head because I'd seenI'd seen Blind Boy. Yeah, yeah,
it was a good live shot.Well, I mean this My argument
was, I was kind of lookingaround, going what the fuck is this?
To be honest with you, Iwas watching and he's sitting up there,
just him on a chair, anotherbloke on a chair, and the
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other guy was like an expert inwhatever, an experton fucking in frogs or
something, and he's just sucking awayin a vape like with the bag,
going tell us more about tell usmore about the you know, the him
ethrot frog and he just sit backand set this by rolling like and people
were looking around, going because andthen he just chiming every swapping man.
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So what you have is the hermaphrotitewe'll have and he's just got yurt and
people and they're losing. I'm lookingaround because I have to be the critical
eye comedian. I cannot. I'mfucking terrible, right, you know,
If a thing is amazing, Ilove. But I'm genuinely looking going if
you if that was just me sittingthere and my face exposed, but i
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had a plastic bag on my headand I'm sucking on a vape and I'm
going yelt like nobody's given it tome, Like they're going, what the
fuck did we? You know what'sreally interesting is that, And it's the
only medium I've ever seen it becauseI grew up in bands a lot to
say, when I was sixteen andon, and it's always like you're always
cool to their bands, but secretlyeveryone's like, we're fucking better than them.
They're fucking shit there. And I'veseen it, you know, I'd
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imagine a lot of a lot ofkind of creative stuff when you're getting on
the stage. Is like that.The only time I've ever seen it where
people are legitimately all cool to eachother. Within the community our podcasts,
everyone is so fucking nice to eachother there, and it's almost like because
and Rob said it to me aswell, like the people who are coming
to see the show, they're actuallydying for you to do great. So
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like that yart that you hear onon you know, your fucking kN iPhone
or whatever, it's worth like tenyards in real life, maybe a hundred
yards, you know, because peopleare so fun more arts the tribes that
I feel like I'm wrong with Mongolianswho lives in the yard. No,
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you're right, your Mongolians. Yeah, yeah, that Japanese game where you'd
be killing lads and I'm I'm infiltratingall the boys of his Mongolian yards,
ending them they'll get out of Japanby the time I'm doing I'm gonna tell
you that. Now, by theend of the show, I could see
why people were in love with him. It's spun my mind back to a
few years previous where I was anelectric picnic and I was out there.
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We call it the artist area,but it was just fucking Harris fence builders
fencing just around where we were drinkingcans and myself and um blind boy,
We're just chatting about Limerick and Pantoactually and stuff like that in theater and
stuff, and like grown men weretrying to climb like they were twelve year
old girls getting overere to like fuckingjustice Bieber. Like lads have brought brought
things they made like one guy washe was a blacksmith. He made like
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this bracelets like I made this foryou two guys like you got your this.
That's a parasocial, isn't It's amazingand you don't really intend that.
And I'm the same when I listenedto podcasts, like if you have someone
in your air for like an houror an hour or two and you relate
to them, Yeah, even wantblind boy, Like I'd relate to a
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lot of the stuff that he says. And we're about the same age,
we're into the same shy grown upSo when you when you hear it,
you're like, oh, I fuckingknow him, but he don't know me
and you don't. Yeah, yeah, that's something that's something that you don't
really put together. So that's thething with the Live Shy I suppose is
that everyone there does in a senseknow what they've heard of you. And
you know, me and Emma willbe quite candid on the podcast. We
talk about whatever saw they do havea bit of there's a water to kind
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of get out well, which andas well, like I don't even think
you could probably just shit on thestage and the clap like, which is
not so much a bad thing againstthem, but I think it's just the
way it is a podcast build upa relationship, you know, and then
yeah it's and I learned that,oh yes, this is this is a
live podcast. This makes sense becauseon my head, I'm going, you
have to be singing, and Dan'slike, yeah, no, you don't
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of course, and blind Boy isdoing this perfectly, so I was I
felt like a bit of a boxby the end of it, going but
educated, I would say, youknow, I was like, all right,
right, people love you anyway,right, I guess. And he's
he's got such like a unique mind. Like when I listened to his podcast,
I'm like, shit, yeah,like this the way he sort of
makes comparisons, yeah, like it'sjust really interesting, you know, and
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like I think he's probably just naturallyattuned to that medium, whereas for other
people, you know, even justthe idea of having a conversation for an
hour and a half is like,fuck, I don't want to do that,
you know, not that I'm oneof those people, but like I
can understand, like I could say, if forgot me that on the podcast,
unless he was six points deep,you might get one yard out of
him. No way. Right ourNation Street is starting zooming. Robert does
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this podcast about to wind up.He does like one of those old dudes
that's just like real stoic, realquiet, doesn't say a lot. Is
actually very funny, but probably needsa pint or two just to take the
edge off. That's everybody, Yeah, that's but it's um, it's something
that I noticed because I do alive podcast. I don't record it but
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for the on zoom with the patronsevery couple of weeks, and it's great
as you see the same people comingback and how much more confident they've gotten
speaking confidently to the group, Like, you know, that's a cool idea.
So what way do you do that? Then? So they I'll jumping
onto the zoom me and you justbasically record for an hour or two.
Is this No, don't don't recordbecause that allows people to get Lucy goosey.
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Then what people do is they there'splenty of people that just tell them
lurk if you're not feeling confidently,the camera off and stay in the background
and I won't draw hey, turnon your you know, or say hello,
none of that. If you wantto stay in the back and just
watch the fucking crack like and agood few people do. But the same
like and you know what, they'rebringing great stories because they're like I have
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one for it, I have onefor But what's brilliant too is the piss
taken that we've now developed. LikeI've become friends with these people, even
though I've never met most of them. But what you'll find is the confidence
that they've built because of course I'mcoming on going, you know, from
the but now rather than going waitingtheir turn, they're doing with Irish people
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and there's people from other nations too. They're doing what people should do who
are friendly with each other and upfor the They rip into each other and
talk over and don't even let itlet the ball hit the ground. And
it's fucking cool to see it.But what I've I've seen the true line
from not being confident at all speakingpublicly to nearly being part of nearly being
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their own fucking podcast in a sense, Like you know what, i'd be
too ripping the bits oude of eachother and gone, this is great and
all I'll do is stitching together andkind of keep I'll keep it in line
time wise, you know what Imean. We go for an hour or
whatever and everybody people tend to havea drink and have a bit of crack,
you know, but there'll be aloose subject. But what's great about
the not recording because I recorded thefirst two and people were a bit tight.
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I say, I'm not recording this. This is purely for people to
want to and we'll straight away let'ssee it gone. So this fucking tramples.
It's exactly what I wanted it perfect. Maybe we'll try that. That's
a great idea. Yeah, Ilove to try that because again we found
as well, like it's such anice thing when you actually meet because we
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we'll feel a couple of guys comequite a far away for the show,
and we hung out with them,you know, prior to the show,
and it was such a nice thingsto be like, ah, deadly,
these people are like as nice andand easy going and cool and just sweet
as they appeared to be when wetalked to him on the discord, or
whatever, like it's so nice tohave all it's almost like a ready made
friendship, you know. Yeah,it I mean, it's a great um
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filter is the wrong word, butI suppose it is kind of a film,
not in stand up. It's everyyou know, it's the collection of
society typically. You know, Okay, you're not you're not the wild sense,
You're not all the way down toyou know, the lad with one
tooth who likes to fucking traffic stop, all the way up to fucking you
know, lord Fluffington Fluffingtons, youknow, wearing a cravat into the shower.
(27:38):
Like, but what you even ifyou're fine tuning your people with a
podcast, because yeah, and bythe time you've been going a couple of
years, you'll find oh, youfucking are right in my vein. I
couldn't say anything that would get mefucking canceled on my podcast now at the
minute. Yeah, I can't sayanything exactly because they know I'm messymbolics and
(27:59):
I'm not a bad book, doyou know what I mean? And they're
all for all minded people here.Does he have the same sort of people
need our podcast? Our last podcastwas about riding spiders for about fifteen to
twenty minutes, and literally right Iwas got about fifteen minutes into and I
was like, like, why arewe talking? I had one of those
(28:22):
moments where I sort of imagined likea friend walking into the room listening to
the podcast, or like a childor something like my god, why are
we talking about riding spiders? Andthen and like I'm make sure I delete
this, and then you put itout and then all your listeners like that
was one of the funniest episodes we'vehad in ages. Really enjoyed that.
It was brilliant and all that.You're like, well, you know,
(28:44):
you know you're on me when you'retalking about big eggs, goo, skeleton
diddies and all that, where itwas going absolutely insid the there's times are
yeah, when you do think,oh god, it I should that's not
very preshion. I should leave thatout. But you're going or radio,
it's not, it's not. Iremember doing an interview with a friend.
He's great comic from the North,Aaron McCann, and he was hungover and
(29:07):
he was in Dublin. He wasdoing kill Tony. Oh yeah, And
I said, sure, look I'llpick you up and you know the car
is perfect. I'll bring the mics, the recording gear perfect for it's you
know, soundproof. Let's do it. Pull up somewhere. So we just
happened to pull up on the keysin Dublin and it was quiet and it
was going great, right, andhe like he's just howling laugh because he's
(29:30):
just got this fucking laugh that wouldfucking and out of nowhere. It's too
right. Little fucking stangers bang onthe window because they see the microphones and
we're kind of parked outside the fourchords that that's going Hey, hey,
I hee some Marty and I was. They literally tapped at the It couldn't
have been the worst time for themto tap on that window. I was
up at twelve thousand rpm. Thefucking iger man on the ropes were ring,
(29:53):
fucking laughing. We're back and forthfucking talking about post malone and it's
he was actually fucking post maloney andhe was actually a scaffolder from and these
two funck and I just snapped.I went from complete like fucking animalistic,
fucking humor purveyor too and I wentballistic, like these lads didn't get to
finish their sentence and I went,abe shit, pulled up, ripped open
(30:17):
the door. I sucked the twohe into the fucking two little guns,
and they just like the two lads, just turned snow white, these two
scanners and just fucking legged it.And I looked in and I thought McCann's
head. There was that fucking whatI can only describe as a hydraulic hose
of running down the middle of hisforeheads, that silent dimension. You know
that laugh that isn't even a laugh. We're still recording. I got back
(30:41):
on that's air, don't I'll nipthat out of it. I forgot,
I actually forgot there was that twentysecond period and totally missed it in the
edit left it out. And peoplewhen I nearly crashed the car, I
nearly crashed the car. They thoughtthere was a planet. Some people that
were going, did you actually snapat two young fellows because they could kind
of hear them gone. So it'sa podcast all around that man ed there's
(31:03):
I can't remember the name of it, but they record every episode outside.
They just go around with the twomics and they just started interviewing people industry.
It's in America somewhere, and likeevery episode is just totally different.
Like they might sit down in apark or like you're talking about, just
sit down, sit down in acar or wherever, and they just get
talking to random fucking people like andthere's a bunch of stranger danger every episode.
(31:25):
It's totally different. I can't rememberthe name of it. But it's
actually a pretty good idea, tobe fair. Speaking of America, beautiful
segree by the way, rob oh, Yeah, speaking of America, will
recording on the fourth of July.I always fucking irks me when I see
it, like Irish people getting allexcited by the furty July. Fucking are
you that fucking board in your ownlife there? But all the same,
(31:45):
there's still some of the best cryptidsand monsters and fucking googlies come out of
America. Like they've done. Theyproducing the best. They fucking like there's
some class one. Every country hasthem, every country in fucking the country
and the world has one. ButAmerica, Jesus, they produced like we
did the we did. We didan alien one one time, and we
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did I did the Silky as well. He shows up in a few places,
the Silkie. I think he waskind of out our hebrides or something
was he but the aliens one stillto this day because I won't lie that
it gives me the horn it was, I'm getting worse. I'm getting worse.
It's not wearing enough if the hornis only getting worse for the agent
got a big lions man horn onyou because they're good news is that there's
(32:28):
a really fucking and this is foryour listening to the harders are really juicy.
Pe letn't know us like, look, we don't hang our hats on
any of it or think necessarily ifit's real. We kind of treating more
like comic book characters. And ifthey are real, they're real spiders spiders?
How else are you going to getthe powers? Peter Peter Parker,
(32:57):
So there's an alien, so reallygoing to alien sight in Time Vegas?
Yeah, in Las Vegas. Right. So normally with all this kind of
ship, you might see the UFO, you might see someone saying to seeing
something weird out and about. Butthis is actually both and this is why
it's really interesting. So I don'tknow if you've heard about it. Well,
what happened was there was a nineone one call to at the place
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in Las Vegas somewhere and they werebasically it was a family and the call
is kind of weird, Like it'slike the guy who's like, look,
there's something in my garden. There'stwo things, like we think, we
think they're aliens or some shit.They're like, we don't know what they
are even among these things are tenfeet tall. Yeah, so scary.
Now he's describing it was tenhe tall. He sounds kind of freaked out.
(33:42):
And so at surface value, you'rethinking, ie, whatever, it's a
nine eleven call, nine one onecalled nine nine eleven called nine on one,
called um and you know it's whatever. So the WAD think to sync
up with this is you know,in the States now cops need to wear
a body camlister ship in black claws, right, so special button. So
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so these these aren't doing their job. And next thing on the body cam
footage, you see a fucking whatlooks like I'm not going to say to
the UFOL, but you see somethingflying down through the sky and this body
cam yeah, no, it lookslike a big met right, right,
So they tech not of it.They go like, oh, yeah,
what the is that is kind ofweird, right, And then they get
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old about this nine one one call, which is all the same around the
same time. So they're like fuck. The cop is thinking, well,
shit, we just see that.We're thinking the sky that we never usually
see. Yeah, we've got thisnine one one call. So they actually
go just out of personal interest oftwo cops do when it's all on body
cam. Yeah, they go tothis house of the family. The family
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come out and they're saying to thecops like, yep, this is the
story, you know, blah blahblah. It's it's a song. I
think there's a dad and maybe agranny and and maybe the mass there too,
and like they're all kinds of justsaying it to the cop. Yep,
this happened. The cop was likenauseum and there was no follow up.
Really, I like, well,the kid, his name is Angel.
(35:13):
So the kid who makes the call, he actually did a quick it's
like a six minute video where hetalks about what happened, and he's like
I'm not you know, I'm notcloud chasing, blah blah blah. You
can take it either way, doyou know what I mean? Like,
whatever you think is up to yourself. But the point is he's talking about
it. Now, what's funny isobviously it's highly illegal to call nine one
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one and pretend there's giant aliens inyour garden compared to what had happened here,
if you can call the guards,you know. Yeah, So there's
that. That's one thing. Theother thing is, obviously we saw the
big blue flash that happened there.He's going online and the family are actually
they've hired an attorney because there's somany people going to their house now to
try and find start to see whathappened there. There's it's wild stuff that's
(35:58):
going on. So it's really restingone. And here's here's another thing that's
true. The kid was saying thatthere was a black cars that kept he
said black cars or a black carthat kept parking near the area, and
so he was like, this mustbe you know, the men in black
or whatever. Interestingly, there wasa private investigator who later came out and
said, sorry, that was actuallyme like because I was I was reading,
(36:21):
said there was a funeral store andthere's better. Yeah. He was
lived by Makin's, the undertakers andthe pubs, all in one perfect Wexford
place. But he's um, yeah, so like there actually was a guy
there. Now the kid thought itwas the men in black or whatever,
but there was a legitimate guy therewho was kind of scoping the place out.
So the kid was telling the truthabout that, even though it wasn't
what he thought it was. Youknow, there has to be like like,
(36:45):
there has to be you'd assume nosmoke without fire to at this stage,
like now to that one. Thereis a bit of juice to that
one. And I mean, allthese flying out yolks and all the rest
of the going, well, thisis the tic tech in, this is
the fu I'm kind of going,Arra, couldn't give a fuck about that.
I want to see I want tosee the buys. I want to
(37:07):
see anial probe, you know whatI mean. I want to see I
want to see I want to seelads telling the true story going, I
tell you like that. There's thatone from Brazil that was genius. Yeah,
And I asked, I asked aBrazilian fellow, did he hear about
him? And he did, ohyeah, he's oh yeah. But he
was saying it like it was theall Ard Final had happened factually, that
factual, you know what I mean. He was going, oh, yeah,
(37:28):
so what happened there was and hejust started telling me about fucking aliens
running around the town. Yeah,they dragged away in some truck and there
was the town was stink for monthsafterwards. Do you know do you know
that the town has the telephone bootsare like little UFOs now, so they
have like buildings and bus stops havelike they're all teamed with UFOs and stuff.
(37:49):
I was talking to my my wife'sBrazilian, and I was saying to
Pallas, like if you heard thisfucking Virginia stuff, And she's like,
oh, yeah, that's where thealiens And she's just like, hey,
you want to wash your socks oryou know, so normal for her,
but yeah, it's totally over inBrazil. Like they're they're totally totally bored
into it. And when you watchthe any of the documentari is when that
came out recently, like Jesus Christ, it's so fucking you're just like,
(38:15):
yeah, something happened here, somethingweird happened here, like like there's you
don't be praying something like like allwe ever got was moving statues and the
others, you know what I mean, and all yeah, I mean Mary
rocked up and all we got wasan airport knock over the fucking things?
What I mean, like you think, come on, come on, we
can get a bit more out ofthis, like but I mean, I
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love the fact that, as yousaid, like the fucking the phone box
now always leaned into it like thinkslike sometimes you know you do say it
like sure, fucking do you rememberManja Gory? Sure? What the fuck?
Like? Where did Manja Gory comeout? All? Right? That's
not weird ass pleasant or somewhere likeI kind of wonder sometimes does like the
(38:58):
local county counsels resulting, let's let'sas like to be fair speech speaking of
cryptis and aliens like like point pleasant. Basically all their tourism is about the
Mothman, and they're making bank becausethey have a statue. To be fair,
now, we talked about spiders withlovely arses. The Mothman has some
(39:20):
hoop on them in that issue.Oh you'd want to see the big chrome
ars on them. Unbelievable. Ilet him take me away. If they
ever made a statue of me,I don't mind too much if they fuck
up the face, you know,David Beckham style or Terry Wogan would like,
you'd want them to give you agood hole, wouldn't juicy? And
(39:45):
maybe you heat up the front likeyou know what I mean? Yeah,
yeah, you know you're packeting somethingdown the side like see, it's grand
for you. Lads probably have naturalhoops. Unfortunately for me, I was
born with upper leg and lower back. I have no ars. Oh you've
the inverted art syndrome, have somehowI have a pureiform of syndrome where where
you'd be cramped muscle in your artsat all times and yet no ars.
(40:07):
My art is too tight. Yeah, my ars is too tight. It's
a puckering ars, a rumor basicallylike a carton kind of it's actually Luke
Kelly's face is my ars, simplicitybut begging. So basically your arts would
be is the unconquered fucking zone thatany like would be fucking jailhouse lifer would
(40:32):
go, I'm gonna I'm gonna tryit, lets, I'm gonna fuck it.
This is his everest is your artswhat you're trying? Yeah, I'm
like he'd he'd try it, andI barely you just hear like think should
think you know, I'd be likeyou could play agence remember that. Hell
yeah, I could never really seethat again. Temper issues in Sibouty.
(40:53):
You don't really go together like andI've had this. It's just in built,
lads. I don't. I don'thave the ability like it wouldn't It
wouldn't be the first time lads wereflicking balls on my rs. Do you
know what? It was only afucking matter of time. It turned the
corner down this alleyway, isn't thatwe're all aliens in Vegas and Brazil anyway,
(41:14):
Y's face and lads can't write it, and we place the video on
us talking about for sure you haveto answer your question name and I've I've
yeah, I've always had jump inthe trunk. I've had those big old,
thick, fucking donkey legs always.Yeah. Rob is going around there
like Rob put the thong up overthe pants, lad as we chased them
around like Megan tree Street. Yeah, Rollington, Yeah, I heard it.
(41:43):
I heard the name. Yeah yeah. Because what I mean, how
far back forward do you go withthese things? Because I mean, at
the minute, my fucking timeline,because it can literally read my brain.
My timeline right now is just literatewith there's a lad he's very knowledgeable on
but he's um on the Ana Nakiand fucking suffered and fucking Jesus. He
(42:05):
pops up ever too and it's socool how he speaks to the black lad
from America and he's fucking class,do you know what I mean? He's
an alternative view, not new,but I suppose delivery system instead of some
out lads that looks like you know, he sells chicken in Kentucky, Like
you know, this lad is likeany motherfuck And as I'd say, the
(42:25):
way he says aniw Naki is fuckingclasses, says like class like I'm doing
no justice there like whatsoever. It'slike the fucking an Naki. You'd buy
the album of whoever he was inthe bank plan like you know what I
mean? No, it's um welike I think with America, you know,
if you're to go back to likethe I suppose why there's a lot
(42:49):
of cryptis. I think what happenedis um, there was a lot of
superstitious people that ended up in America, like all those people that fucking rister
lives and jumping coffin ships there inIreland, and you know people that were
coming off from say Mexico and riskedat all to get there or even farther
south in America, like and therewas like the Dutch, German all that
(43:12):
type of stuff, Like it seemedlike they brought a lot of folklore for
some reason. And I had thesame happened in Australia. So like you
got this weird kind of melting potof like everyone's kind of tails kind of
mixed into one thing. And Ithink that's why there's so many spooks and
superstitions there. You know, forsure you probably have some sort of latent
(43:34):
ship in their DNA as well asyou're discovering these new lands, you're also
not like in the term of ina scale of time, you're not massively
far away from fighting fucking gigant Epithicusand shit like that. So it's all
you know what I mean, LikeI think that somewhere in your DNA you're
still on the lookout for monsters andthey're sort of legitimate, like when you
think about bears and cougars and allthat, Like there's proper stuff out there
(43:55):
that'll kill you. But it ismad and America as well. It is
so as like from the forest,to the mountains, to the to the
lakes, to the like all thatstuff is there, like the perfect environment
for all these little weirdos. Soit's a yeah, it's it's a mad
one. But they like what Ido like about America is they fucking go
all in on the cryptids them inJapan, Japan or another one that go
all in on, Like Japan hasa legless woman called techy Techi with a
(44:20):
scythe in her mouth who comes afterat the train station, find me up,
like long black hair, long,long black hair. Yeah, yeah
that the Japanese like that. Theyused to have them. They used to
manufacture paranormal magazines where they would justlike make up ghost stories if they didn't
have any. But they're steeped likethey have a huge amount of lore as
(44:40):
well, like we did the likewe're talking about writing spiders. That was
the Japanese scrypted was effectively a spiderwoman who would seduice you and then she'd
be like ha ha, the morelegs the better, she'd like embrace you
and destroy you. But m fourfannies, Like is that four fannies which
we just said just really means fourused underwears on the podcast, the Japanese
(45:10):
just have some kind of used underpants. Fact, I've ever seen those used
underpants vendor machines offered here at all. I thought, I fucking dreamt that
you. I did see that eurotrash or something like it probably was,
yeah, like this is the linesmencoming back to you champ to going okay
(45:30):
to. People are sniffing on theseyes, apparently like it's like who supplied
the jocks? It's fake. Ithink it's like it's like, I think
what what what we ended up discoveringwas they're basically new underpants, but some
(45:51):
type of translation er on the vendormachines that basically implies that they're used or
something like that is something like that. Apparently it used to be like Japan
had this huge sort of sex scene, let's call it, in like the
eighties and sort of early nineties,and I think that was the time when
he could find underpan spending machines,like like you know the way girls be
(46:12):
selling bathwater and farts in a jarand all we're only we're we're only catching
up on our friends in the East, like they had that shit on Locke
for decades before us. But theyI was reading the book called them Tokyo
Vice, and it was about ajournalist dealing with the yakuza and stuff like
that in Japan, so really interesting. But a lot of the stuff where
he would meet these yakuza mob boxeswere like various, like hand job parlors
(46:37):
and stuff, and Japan had thisweird rule where you weren't yeah, well
this is it, right, there'sso this it's a handy it's a handy
parlor. It's masquerading as a handyparlor because it's legal to get a blowjob
and to get a hand job inJapan, but it's not legal. It's
not legal to have full sex.So these places will pretend that they're only
(46:58):
giving your hand jobs, but like, no one's going into check, you
know, if you're if you're jumpingon the bad leg. Now again,
I don't know to what extent that'slike currently, but certainly in the eighties
and nineties that seemed to be theway. So this fellow, this journalist,
he's a Jewish guy, and obviouslyhe's quite He's very easy to see
as a guys or a foreigner becauselike he's he's um. He looks very
(47:21):
like Arabian. You know, sohe's going around doing all the stuff,
but he's just going in trying tolike talk about youkus and young ones are
just like beating them off left andright. And he's going back to the
wife and he's like listen, itis after happening, and she's like,
oh, yeah, that's grand.Just don't tell me about it no more.
So he's getting card blanched to justget like any of a great book
anyway, missus. You know,she's people got, she's she's great to
(47:45):
be out late at night as likefuck the hell. Yeah, but this
guy's was like like this guy's literallyblown sawdust by the end of the night.
Like this had to go to somany places to get a story.
Yeah, his knob's got emphasema likeyeah, he's But you're talking about about
when you were saying about real monstersand stuff like, well, one thing
(48:07):
that we should mentioned about America islike that they actually legitimately did have big,
big creatures there like before Yeah,we did, like ages ago in
older episodes we were talking about likein America, like they were hunting these
giant fucking arma delos, right thatwere about the size of a Volkswagen beetle
(48:28):
and when they killed them, humanhunter gatherers used to stay in their shell
as a kind of a temporary shelter, so like a group of ads to
be about hunting. They were calledgliptodonts um i. When did find them,
like they did kill them, obviouslyused the shell, move on,
try and find something else. Butlike there was dolls, and then there's
things like giant fucking slots that werelike massive, like these are huge animals
(48:52):
like their caves if you see intheir caves in South America, these giant
ground slots like you would think theywere natural really formed like their burrows,
like they're these massive vast caverns,probably like you know, ten or fifteen
feet wide and probably the same tallat times massive massive like they were.
They were like bear sized, ifnot a bit bigger here and so a
(49:15):
lot of the time, you know, things are kind of home with us,
and it happens here like with withwith folklore and and sort of tradition
is that these stories gott have beenpassed down over the years. And you
know, you've got some of theFirst Nation, like Native American people,
and they have probably passed down thesestories about some like large creatures, large
(49:36):
monsters, and over time the tailsprobably still exist, but the creature is
no longer there, right, youknow what I mean. It's like it's
like us with the birds. Thetail is there, but they're not here
anymore. You know. It's well, I know, if you need only
live in the country side around ourevery second person is English, they're like
(49:58):
that. I said that the fuckingI was up in care is up in
and she's in leash like my girlfriend. And I said it because it's every
fucking second person up her English likeI was here. And there's a lot
of them. There's a lot oflike like little villages that are almost mainly
Protestant. Still, right, it'squit strange. I never you wouldn't say
that. I'm extraed by. AttendedVinegar Hill and we got the maastards.
(50:22):
I know, I thinking of yourown fucking constituency. I've driven through a
few towns. I went into theprotests in the primary school. I went
to a Protestant national school as aCatholic. Yeah, I'm fairly sure it
was like a government funded program tosee how much trauma foxy head. Oh
yeah, that's yeah. And youcouldn't have a more irish looking fucker in
(50:43):
there, going in there, andwould you like I fucking slapped around the
place like the headstress for three yearsof my life. I went up to
her one day, used to getyour so many hundred and three years.
Yeah, sorry forgetting about the ancestors. I went. I had a you
know, you're a little ashling sumpad, remember with the little grids on us?
(51:04):
And I was like, sure itme sums now, not a bother.
I'm me happy out now going upthere like it's fucking nineteen twenty two.
You know I got them all right, I swears, So that's grands
put on. And I had atear in the page, not serious,
a tear that any ten or elevenyears old might make up. There's some
coffee, and I remember this vividly, right. She looked at me,
(51:25):
looked at the copy book, andthen boxed me in there, like just
full box me in the jaw witha big bad ring on me. And
the fucking Jehovah's witnesses had to helpme out because there was like that.
We were like all the weird peoplein freaks or whatever, you know,
so we were all the multi denominationsthat don't look sore, are you okay?
(51:45):
And I was like, oh,you don't know, you can't even
get a firm's fusion fuck up likeit was, but it was the one
scientologists in the corners. Fuck Ialmost had him, damn it. Yeah
it was. But yeah, yeahwild So yeah, there's definitely I think
everywhere in Ireland has um but theyseem to be more historically affluent than we
(52:07):
are. Yeah, which makes perfectsense. Yeah, it is, well,
definitely around here. What we gethere is a lot of people who
retire back here with a notion ofdid the dailiness you kind of oka say
that leaves them fairly quick? Yeah, yeah, it does, especially since
that's intertwined with republicanisms. That's astrange thing. I found that as well,
(52:30):
like myself, like because obviously ifyou look at the name, you'd
figure us that I'm like half English, and I always kind of felt that
that I have relatives in England whoidentify is pretty much like strongly Irish or
have strong Irish roots, shall wesay not, rather than actually identifying as
I was like, can you dothat now? Is that the new thing?
(52:52):
You know? One of the fewpeople like actually you and Gordon one
of the few people that if youdropped your first name, it stuck at
Lord in there, it wouldn't lookthe place that Yeah to Tom, Mommanny
and Avon O'Neill die into the blakein each other's face. It's just gone.
(53:12):
Yeah. Also, but it is, it's it's it's strange because there's
a disconnect. I always found thatwith that kind of thing, because it
is like they would I suppose ithappens in America too, but they would
be very much viewed as as Englishover here. You know, not that
that's a problem in Ireland, butum, a lot of the things that
they would associate with us being Irishwould sort of a lot of the old
(53:34):
Republican stuff is fairly anti English.So it's kind of an oxymoron in a
sense, you know what I mean. Yeah, very yeah, But I
mean for the most part, Imean it's it's not like they're coming over
to dominating, No. Yeah,it's it's funny. It is a funny
thing because it's one of those thingswhere we can both joke about it and
I have absolutely nothing against English peoplewhatsoever, which I think is kind of
the most it's most health Yeah,Christ. Yeah, because you could say,
(54:00):
you could say things for we goway out of that now you had
the eight hundred years as a commonenough one and they'll just laugh with you,
and you'll laugh together, and he'dbe like pointing in us, you
know, and they'd be like,sure that was made by your britsh gag.
Like the whole thing is, it'sit's actually good crack to have that
banter with each other. Well,if you didn't, then there's no friendship.
You know that in a way,because you're never never pay your friend
(54:21):
compliments. That's just sick and twistedlike this. Yeah, it'd never be
like I can guarantee your now.If one of my friends turned out and
class shirt, I go, ohfuck, I'm taking it off. I'd
just gone home. Yeah, youjust wouldn't sit well with me. It's
like, well, that's our friendshipruined. Ruined. Yeah, and you
know you know that he wouldn't meanit. Like if someone says our class
shirt. I thought it was weird. I was at a work thing and
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some lads said I had a nicepair of shoes the other day, and
I was like, oh yeah,I just felt a bit weird, like
just kind of like, no,I think it's a new thing him and
unfortunately it's a new thing. Yeah. Yeah. The new generation are much
more healthy mentally than we ever were. Like they're way more like, hey
are you doing bro? Like allnice like being most people I say gigs
(55:02):
all the time, like and theycome up although I'm kind of going,
oh man, it was you know, like you were, you know,
fellas of our real could just kindof just shaker hand or just kind of
go come on, that was thatwas great note and just get out of
each other's way quickly. You know, you may have you know, changed
the guy's life, but he wasstill just kind of he won't have it
in him. It's maybe it's thegrudgery, but most in the most part,
(55:23):
it's not really. It's just likeI don't have the yeah to get
this. Whereas you're getting young kidscoming up going you know, hey,
I'm a hugger. Can can wethat was? You really touched me there
with that soul. I'm like,hey, I am double your age.
I didn't touch you anywhere. Ihonestly, can we just walk away from
this? Youth will say things likewhen I had the mullet, it was
(55:49):
it was ludicrous. It was fuckingludic. I liked. I liked how
far you went with that man?That was fucking awesome. Yeah, I
went, I went to full lionsman, and that's when I knew.
I went. It was and itwas that peak. It was there,
hits a point two and everything.You know what I mean, when you've
had do you know when you've hadlike a car that's still cool, but
you've you've outgrown the car or oneor the other you're like or something.
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To tell this extent, the hairbasically was going to get its own agent
and everything like. It was ata point where it's like, this isn't
And also what I noticed is becauseI can't do cool and I refuse to
do cool in any way, Inoticed, like I started growing it been,
you know, had a mullet atthe beginning of the lockdown or lesson.
I've been threatened the one for years, and I noticed young lads started
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fucking cutting their hair into mullets.And it wasn't as a direct result of
me, but I went, Ineed to get out of the game.
I can't. I can't be inthe mullet. I can't be in the
mullet. Grandfather here like, thiscan't be no, this can't be the
thing. So I've noticed now likefucking young lads coming to my gigs with
their fucking haircut into mullets. AndI'm like, what you think, God,
for fuck's sake, I gotta bea compliment now, don't I like?
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Because they'll pay you one no problem, no problem, ye like?
And I think it doesn't sit wellwith me at all. I don't.
I don't think I'll ever get tothat point fully where it's it's a weird
one. It's almost as if we'reseeing like the way that our fathers had
to evolve from their fathers. Youknow, your Zanda never said a word,
Your dad said a few more words. You're likely to say more words
(57:20):
again, and your kids you knowwhat I mean. And it's just this,
every every generation's a little ripple ofchange, but only a ripple,
not a wave. You know,it isn't there was, And I can
I've joked about this on stage beforethat I had a bit before where my
wife actually introduced hugs to South Tipperary, and I mean the whole southern half
of the county. I don't know. I can't vouch for North Tipperary.
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But I'd say much the entire youknow. I think it's like the Turtle
Argist County in Ireland. He wasthe first person to bring hugs here probably
thirteen years twelve thirteen years ago nowat that stage, and it was,
it was, it was. Itwas seismic, is what I was when
I went around the neighborhood that ahuge had happened. In fact, every
everybody went in a fifty mile radiusfelt it. I was, it was.
(58:08):
It moved faster than most pandemics LEDs. Everybody felt immediately uncomfortable. A
lot of people go into confession theydidn't know why. It was just it
was. It was ludicrous. Butmy parents had never hugged any of us
or hugged and now that I have, it's not like I'm trying to outdo
my parents, but it just feelsnatural. Now my son I should we
(58:30):
hug. But even still he's likehe's a hardy little bastard, so he's
not coming running from every two secondseither, like, but at the same
time, it's a totally natural thingall that as well. Like, I
think I think that's one thing thatwe would probably all say, is like
it's it's grammed and all grown upand I'm having the hard thing and you
know whatever. But at the sametime, I don't think there's any harm
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in it. The other way,it's probably a more healthy things. Actually
walked into the house speaking of clawsthe other day he was wearing the fucking
jersey was bet into the jersey thatgoes athlete absolutely get. Sometimes you buy
them jerseys and you're like, ithurt yourself and your ordered online and then
(59:14):
you realize that actually, as yeah, I have a couple of meself,
I look like some fucking like ifyou jump up and down, any pier
body that wobbles even a little bitis going to show up full scale and
one of them. It has neverworked out for me, even when I
used to go to the gym alot and I was in dec what I
would class as decent. Nick youget one of them fucking jerseys. See
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what ruined it for me? Rugbyjerseys were great for the longest time,
and I was into rugby because theywere baggy out fucking yok, because they
were meant to fit the fact leadsyeah, and then all of a sudden,
professionalism took over and they started ladsstarted to lose the belly and they
just started making them tight of soccerjerseys. Why the fuck can you not
just And there was no right wayto buy one. There was no say
(59:57):
brian On Driscoll, this is it. And you buy one too big and
it looks ludicaus like you buried itoff your dad, you know what I
mean, It looks And then youget one that's sposingly fits you, and
sure it doesn't at all. You'vetits hanging out under the fucking two others
going down your foot leave disgraceful.There's no good way of going about it
on Australia, it is true.Yeah, but yeah, what you say,
(01:00:22):
I think it's it's healthier way ofprobably approaching that. I do laugh.
Like we we moved literally back towhere I grew up, and he's
doing like he goes into the thelittle fucking shop up the road and the
woman that like was adorable to meis adorable to him now as well,
and it's it's mad to see it. But yeah, but like he's running.
But we were at a couple ofa while back, we were at
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the what will be his primary school, like they were raising they wanted me
to give. I don't give atalk about something or whatever. And this
school principle's great, I should reallyforward thinking and stuff like that. But
it was at school I went toand in my head I had this the
place where corporate punishment was still goingwhen I was. Um, it's a
lovely light place. All the kidsare really well manner, a rounded people,
(01:01:07):
not like the fucking barbarians we werebecause we were treated like that.
We were treated like fucking dogs likeyou know. But um, and now
everybody we're out to raise the flagof inclusivity or whatever. This this flag
that I think I should pulled up, this flag and I'm looking around going
this is like, this is theAryan fucking like every kiddy here has blonde
(01:01:34):
hair and blue like every one ofthem, blonde hair, blue eyes,
like blonde hair, blue eyes everywhere. Maybe one kid has a tinged,
you know, dark hair because Idon't know, possibly somebody went abroad one
time or something. I don't know, But I'm looking going, what's the
inclusivity about? You know? Undermy breath to horse, which you mean,
let's look around, look around andall their parents are standing behind them.
They're just like carbon copies of moreblonde. They're blue eyed people,
(01:01:59):
so there's no because well, ifwe get a brown one, it'll be
it'll be grand. Yeah, butit's um it's changing, man. But
I think I think the way thatum, I think for those like that
generation, say your kid and evena bit older. And I was like,
like, they won't like that stuff, won't even raise a flag because
(01:02:21):
like to us, it raises flagbecause we're like, hang out. I
was getting the shit kicked out ofme in school and I had this happened
to me, and I had thathappened to me, and so so we
spotted. We're like, what thefuck is going on with all this nice
shit? Like what's happening? Yeah, But then a kid, a kid
that grows up in and they're goingto be like what the fuck, Like
they won't even think twice about it. But it's almost like like keeping the
kid the way a kid should be. Like kids don't fucking see poverty,
(01:02:45):
they don't see fucking class, theydon't see race, they don't see sexuality.
They're just like, oh, Ilike playing with that kid. He's
fun, she's fun, you knowwhat I mean. And it's kind of
deadly that as they grow up.Then before before they even really get a
chance to understand the divisions, they'rekind of being taught Look there's no division.
Like everyone just be fucking sound likethis, like what Jesus was doing
(01:03:07):
years ago. He's like, look, I'm hanging around with the horrors.
You'd all have wine. I'm afterturning the bottle vick into wine. Were
not all just relax and have abit of crack together? Do you know?
Like it's a cool thing that we'reactually trying to do that and not
just fucking divide people. And it'sit's happening more naturally than the media would
allow you to believe, Like youknow what I mean, Like this,
they're all to talking about, youknow, this drag queens Turk and and
(01:03:28):
it was like there's there's six dragqueens in all of Ireland. It's one.
It's like literally one, fucking itmight be one thing that everyone just
like batters around. And yes,as an example, I think as well,
like we're talking about the bigger issuesthere, guys, how did this
this happen? Both? Oh,don't worry, we'll get back to me.
(01:03:50):
No, I think I think,like because my girlfriend is a teacher
and saw one of the things thatgets brought up, and sometimes there could
be a bond of contential. I'veheard people talking about it is like is
like pride days at school and thingslike that, And I even myself,
I've kind of said, like,well, you know, there's no sexuality
that that is really like it doesn'treally need to be addressed. But then
(01:04:12):
I did think back then, Idon't know about yourself. Time, like
when we were in school, youknow, while there was no sexuality,
there was definitely kids that were bulliedfor being gay. And these were kids
that were fucking nine or ten likethat, like you just lads kind of
just sensed it or whatever for whateverreason, and they got the super hard
time. And then as well,I suppose to a lesser degree maybe at
(01:04:34):
the time, but it still didhappen. Is you would have parents that
are maybe gay or a family memberthat's gay, and so I suppose if
you're just jaring them as we wouldhave had our time, obviously it would
put them out and they would feelingshitty about it. So I mean,
I do get, I do getwhy it's staring now. I suppose,
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you know, I think I thinkthat the big fear for people. It
isn't this stuff because I think mostpeople, the vast majority of people who
aren't bigot it, will agree thatthis stuff is really important. It's to
your point about like that tiny,little minuscule stuff that isn't even happening in
this country. It's happening fucking godknows where it might even be happening at
all. It could be like fuckingRussian bots trying to fool us all.
(01:05:15):
But it's like, you know,like you said, drag queens doing highly
sexualized book readings or something, whichtotally I can see why people will be
like, what about that, youknow, teaching kids as young as seven
or eleven about like gay oral sexand gay sex, Like there's no reason
for that, But there's a verymuch an important reason for everyone to be
(01:05:36):
included and to be you know,respected as an individual. I think that's
the thing. Like that, it'sweird, like I've been going to following
that a bit on the outskirts andI'm trying to figure out who's actually peddling
this stuff like this, this barelypoint one percent of stuff that maybe is
happening by some head of balls outthere in the middle of nowhere. Yeah,
it's it's it's it's it's funny.And I suppose i'll I'll resound that
(01:06:00):
and resound that with another another exampleof pedal and stuff that doesn't really happen.
But as far as the price ofi'd like, I'd like it to
be so in the same way likecomedy, I don't even I don't like
referring to other like female comics asfemale comics. I just funny should be
fucking funny. And that's same asway we should get to a point where
there should be no pride. Yeah, we're all just kind of and drudging
(01:06:24):
us easygoing versions, you know,handy everybody. And there's if somebody's gay
is like, oh yeah, soI have a gay out, that's the
finest, do you know? Likefor it to be brought up. I
think it's because deeply, I'm deeply, deeply uninterested in anybody's race, the
religious beliefs or unless it's a reallymad religion, like you know, it's
(01:06:46):
like unless they're thrown it in yourface, like every time you sit down
with them, they're trying to convertyou to this that like because that's just
not fun. Same if you havea gay friend and every time you sit
down with him he's trying to suckhim off. He'll be like, yeah,
man, well no, if he'strying to suck your making, maybe
around them a few yeah, youknow, you know, but yeah,
it's it's like, as long aspeople are cool, like, that's it.
Just as long as you're cool,you're fun to be around. That's
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it. And for the most part, and this is the thing, for
the most part people, there probablyisn't an awful need in any peddling of
anything because you're average person and Imeet a huge amount of people, and
in large Swedes, I can gaugerooms and that's the that's the actual general
populace. You can do your redseed pole and you can do it,
but when you're physically trying to entertainpeople with words that you're testing them to
(01:07:30):
it in large groups, it's oneof the best litmus tests of where the
public's minds are going if you're actuallyin a room, because the one constant
is the words that you you know, you're the one person and you're trying
all different aspects. And I doa lot of observational comedy as well as
I supposed storytelling and stuff like that. So a little bit of CrowdWork as
(01:07:51):
well, just to get the vibeof the room. But what you find
is this this whole thing, theamount of people have asked me is a
comedy must be really hard now thatwith all the console dark, They're like,
are you fucking joke me? Peoplewant you to say wilder shit than
you've ever had because nobody wants tobuy into the There is such an a
(01:08:11):
little percentage of people who are actuallyget offended by things that is, Yeah,
you wouldn't quantify it if it wasa fucking vuka or if twas a
fucking if, if this was comingout of your account on a monthly basis,
you wouldn't even know, no matterhow cool you are. Like it's
like, like, I think what'shappened with the cancel culture thing is I
(01:08:32):
think a lot of very influential peoplethat reach a lot of airs have made
a way bigger than it actually is. And it's like this straw man or
like kind of like a dog whistlighting among a lot of conservative commentators is
that orders this cancel culture, whichalso then gets lumped in but like walk
ideology, but it's like it's notreal it though there isn't now there are
(01:08:54):
times or agendas to come across andit will happen like me and em and
we're jumping on the YouTube so butthe video podcast and I will be learning
all about it. But like youcan get demonetized on YouTube for saying shit
that you shouldn't really be getting bymentioning Gordo's name. I swear I'm not
joking with you there, I gotI got a strike for what was it?
(01:09:17):
It was the live podcast. Itwas the live podcast and we were
like we were just talking aliens,yeah, mostly aliens and mad fucking you
know, and a bit of questionit came up about about the old magic
C word. Yeah, and fuckme, like it was just taken down.
(01:09:38):
That was it. It was allin good, good mickey taken fucking
entertaining because it was literally a crowdof one hundred other people in front of
us. It was all to beentertaining, and it was just not,
no fucking way are we leaving thisup. No, No, there's there's
lads that we're saying about cancel cultureand like, how I know it's not
true as there's been like some reallyhigh profile American comics like accused of and
(01:10:00):
everything, and they're just backing theirbackdown comedy something like cancel culture isn't really
that big of a thing. Likeeven Luis he like he was manking in
the corner like the Blair Witch andhe's and he's back like culture. Like
I literally did a show about him, wanking made a fortune, tell the
story about what am I like,I think that's why I'm saying like that.
(01:10:23):
That's sometimes why I feel like it'sa bit of a dog whistle.
It's like, oh, you thinkthere's a cancel culture too, right,
Okay, I'm with on that shedthere's definitely like something something he was canceled
for a bit, which, tobe fair, is probably sure you needed
a whole time out there. That'syeah, that's what I mean, Like
I can understand. And again it'skind of like even say no, like
people are saying not they're not cancelingbud Light, But there's a backlash to
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people being like that. They're whatwould you say that they're not they're being
disingenuous with their advertising and it's pissingoff their sort of main audience, you
know, And like it's almost likethe same thing like, it's just whoever
the public are cancels. Yeah,it's not from one side or an others,
you know what I mean, orat least normal people like it's not
going to be that way. Thehandful of people that I that I knew
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of here in Ireland that were rollingin on those kind of things where they
were deeply unhappy people with other thingsanyway, and they found themselves course,
and there was a handful of veryuntalented people I'd found hold on. This
is a great stick to beat beata drum, It's like, and you're
going because I have no ability tobeat a fucking beat it with anything else.
I've actually no talent. I wouldn'tcare about this if I did have
(01:11:29):
talent, because I'd be too investedin what you sit like and you literally
you nailed it. They're in itbecause counterparts that would be seen I guess
as colleagues maybe or you know,colleagues in arms along the same lines without
actually spelling it out too hard,but I mean they just they just Homer
Simpson into the hedge. They werelike, oh no, you're grand.
(01:11:53):
I'll stay tipping in my road hereand you stay tipping in whatever the fuck
you're doing over there because I havemoney to be making. Yeah yeah,
and these these fucking the pockets ofvery angry people we're popping up going blah
blah blah blah blah blah, andthis I've never seen. I've never seen.
It's scared people as quick. Iwas like, what the fuck are
(01:12:15):
You're scared? Just fucking delete Twitter, leave the phone down. I'll get
scared of some count turns up tomy door with a gun up my fucking
nose. That's when I'll get scared. And if he doesn't have one up
my fucking nose, I'll shove oneup his fucking nose. Like that's when
we'll get scared. You've never beenYou've never had your fucking jaw broken like
with a punch, if you're gettingscared by some cont on Twitter, you
know what I mean. Yeah,that's a very good point. You've never
(01:12:38):
actually been in a fistfight, Likeno, no, you get your fucking
head handed to yet with a fuckinga couple of hard slaps, and all
of a sudden, you're like,oh, everything's his perspective right now.
Everything, everything's in perspective right now, because nothing gets much more worse than
this next step step is dead.That's where we're at. Like you,
like, I rolled the car nosethen nine times across the fucking field,
(01:12:58):
and after that, after climbing outthat count, I was like, ah
ma, right, yeah, AndI didn't know about Twitter at the time,
but I was pretty sure my brain, my brain longed it going There'll
be nothing that will address you afterthis is fine, This is fine,
not inviting advising people to do that. But at the same time, I've
been a perspective like you don't youare like you'll be all right, rather
(01:13:18):
than taking things all so seriously.And that's why what I love doing the
podcast and why I love your podcast, because you know what, let me
listen. I think often think asa podcaster of the people that listen to
years going, should they know whatthe bis? I haven't. There's not
a bad bone in the BIS bodiesand they're still saying the fucking funniest,
(01:13:39):
medest, wild shit you know inbetween all this, like Ryan Spiders,
you know what I mean? Andnobody everybody gets it, And that's up
the best man. He just saidthat Monster Fuzz is like if you're at
a house parody and you walk downstairsinto the basement of the house. Paroty.
This is it's like foreign in themorning, there's and you find two
(01:14:00):
ladstones that would talking about that's monsterfulsbasically conversation. Yeah what I so,
with with that being said, Iwanted to hit you with some Irish cryptids
and stories and things like that,because I know we could stay in America
forever. I mean true, true, I mean I do the armadilla ones
(01:14:24):
that have to blow my fucking titsoff. I thought I thought them fellows
were around in fucking like they werewalking around with anclias rus. So clearly
they were around when people that werewalking around and the indignant behavior of killing
you and then sleeping inside you,like that's fair ignorant, like yeah,
(01:14:44):
like Jesus Christ the pop like,but I the So I wanted to see,
what what's your belief on this is? So the band she obviously is
nearly She's she's the she's the Beyonce, She's top, she is, she
is She's the bench. Like.Now, I asked my parents, because
they're country folks, so they haveall these fucking stories of how bad she's
(01:15:06):
come about. And one one hypothesiswas that when say a woman was died
and she was being buried, forher to pass safely into the other world,
a member of the congregation was toshould wear something belonging to her to
the funeral. I e her shawl, for sure, and if you fucking
(01:15:29):
will, it didn't because apparently backthe road here there was a woman below
screaming at the bottom of a fuckingof a boreine and it was the woman
whose funeral was happening that day,and it was the band. It was
as band she sounded as he couldimagine that this woman had. And it
wasn't until the blow who gave thestory ran back up the fucking up the
lane way. He's like, geton her fucking shawl this minute, and
(01:15:51):
we're getting to the church because she'sbelow, and he's he's oldest the story
all his life. She's below screamingthe fucking blue murder. She's not going
to travel over to the another side. And essentially that's that was what they
were taking as the badsheet. Butliving here in the country side, I
also recorded what could be if acity person came to the country for one
(01:16:14):
night. The most fucking terrifying screechover and over again, and what it
was is really Randy Fox. Yeah, yeah, they all they're mad for
right, like flat out like theywould if they'd ride the Spider and you
at the same time. That's aboutThe Vixens are mad like Roorn for literally,
(01:16:40):
But when you hear it, ifI think I put it on my
stories, it's unfortunately like I'll findit. I find it again. I'm
pretty sure I saw that from youa while ago. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, Like a load of mylike absolute city dweller friends like Jim Elliott
who's from the States, is like, no, seriously, Tim, what
the fuck is that? Because itwas it echoes everywhere and it's like this,
(01:17:05):
fucking oh horrendous. And then thepops sound like babies, which is
even more terrifying. They actually soundlike yeah, they actually sound like human
babies. Sometimes it's like, okay, all right, there's a whole load
of babies in the field where they'reJesus Christ, this is fucking bleak.
What was your had you you've obviouslydone the Banshee Yah several times. You've
(01:17:25):
been I know him and has doneher regular were we're casual friends. It's
like that. It's like we're gettinglike the Simpsons at this point we have
tree hundred and fifty episodes. Itwas like, yeah, Monster Fuss has
done it at this point when itcomes to wearing anyway. But yeah,
for us, I like the Banshee. I just as you were saying it
there as well, Like I waslooking over some of our role notes on
(01:17:47):
the Banshee. Um. Apparently originally, at least what they used to say
was it would a pair after wasa violent or painful death, so you'd
get one after like a murder um. And yeah, usually she just wailed
outside a door of the person thatmurdered or someone belonged to it at night.
(01:18:08):
Um. There was also like otherlittle bits where some people would say
that they would herald the death ofsomeone as well, right, yeah,
so that they would be and aswell. I don't know if you have
many of them around there. Ifind them hike in a lot. It's
kind of hard to say whether theywere put there recently or not, but
apparently they used to kind of hangaround, you know, the old fairy
(01:18:29):
mounts, like the stacks of rocks, and you might see him as well
there Tom, there's a bunch inWaxford. I can't remember the name of
I want to say a fairy tree, but that might be wrong. Do
you ever have them that one treein the middle of a field. Yeah,
well it's normally a black horn ora white torn yeah. Like and
if they if it's a lone oneand it can't it can't physically see another
one, Yeah, you're never AndI know plenty of degrement that will never
(01:18:53):
dig them out of it. That'sthe folklore thing. That's that's all folklore.
I've been doing a bit of researchon that as well. But those
kind of ani irish things, like, they're always usually tied in with some
story. And didn't we have thethe no she or whatever it was,
like, I remember the name,but the banshee. The history was that
you used to pay this woman moneyto weigh at your funerals and then and
(01:19:15):
you'd pay her in pints, soshe'd be getting rats and she'd die you
the fucking my dark sense of humor. Immediately when you said no, she
was like, well, are wegetting to the transsider thing? Yea,
but she can identify as what shewants dickhead, don't you mean genital head?
(01:19:45):
But they said, yeah, thatwas part of the history is that
they're they're sort of formed from someof those women who just you know,
got bad alcohol problems, died andthen came back with a vengeance because like
we effectively paid them in poison todo that at other people's funerals. Yeah,
and and did cry at the funeralswith the whole band. She crying
thing. Um. But where vampiresinvented here? Or it was a were
(01:20:10):
wolves, right, broker, Ilooked up one of Yeah, but there
was oh yes, the Oscar,Yeah, because Oscar would be kind of
a nortipporary direction like where that wasoriginally kind of But I remember reading about
one before because I remember, likemother would be very big into like books
and stuff like that history of thesethings. But I remember she called it
(01:20:32):
in the the our talk. Hewas he was. He was an evil
who who went around sulk and blood. Could have just been a fucking a
pure mental savage. I don't knowwhere stories spun out of that one,
but he was by all horror accounts. Gun. That's where it got tied
in with you know, yeah,we actually haven't done Dracula. It was
(01:20:57):
only because I think, yeah,I think around the time time we didn't
do vampires because I think around thetime I was wanting to do and I
remember God up without a vampire episodeand I said, that's your fuck,
I'll let it breathe, and Ijust never came back to it. But
yeah, I mean Bram Stalker's storyobviously there's Irish ties there, but I
think he was inspired as well fromsome other tales from maybe sort of Europe,
(01:21:20):
but Ireland. It seems like withalmost everything there is an Irish version.
And the interesting thing about that islike, as you know, obviously,
we've been geographically isolated for so longthat it's kind of fascinating that there
is similarities with our stories versus sayEurope, where maybe there wasn't any crossover
(01:21:42):
like we've had it where you know, we might do a story about say
Japanese crypted or a folkloric creature andlikewise, but like the South America's will
do like a folk cleric story fromthere, and like there's this weird similarity
between us and them, and it'slike we're ice, yeah, and we're
fucking isolated. I think it's alllike I think, deep down, all
(01:22:02):
the archetypes in our deep, deep, deep subconscious from years of evolution and
all the rest of the years oftales, and there's always a real strong
similarity. As Rob was saying thatthat's kind of part of what is probably
people traveling around over time. Butthen another part of it is probably at
the core all our fears are somewhatsimilar, if that makes sense, you
(01:22:23):
know, fear of There's a greatphil and I'm interested to hear your take
on it because it would be definitelyI've been at the beginning of a lot
of building sites and like I talkedabout the the tree and whatnot, and
I'm just interested to see what othernations have these lads, but we are
heavily when you look into it.And there's a great guy on YouTube.
He cycles around much like you talkedabout. We were talking about podcasting.
(01:22:45):
This guy. He's never on camera, it's always pov like but he cycles
around and interviews interesting folk from aroundIreland. Great, it's a great YouTube,
said it's not to Gordon. He'slike, fuck, this feel is
amazing for I will find it illbecause your man he goes to this one
chap he's in all the way orsomewhere west of Ireland. And as as
(01:23:08):
true as the fucking sky is blue. This guy is talking and seems like
a well rounded man, and that'ssuccessful enough farmer he's talking about basically,
he's fear and admiration for the faithfolk, like the fairy folk, and
like you do not fuck with thesepeople like any which way, Like you
don't fuck with the fairy folk.Like he showed the he showed this meat
(01:23:30):
that was kind of a narrowly littlekind of hilly field, and he showed
look this corner over here and wherewhite thorn and a black thorn had actually
grown together. They were mixed racetrees, and they were but he was
saying basically, this is the gateway, and your man, in fairness,
your man must have a great wayabout him the interviewer, because at no
point did the guy kind of looklike, are you taking the pace out
(01:23:51):
of him? Here? He yea, he wanted. He gave him all
the rope he needed in telling hisstory. Like, but there's a lot
of folk with every Basically I've talkedabout this recently on our podcast, but
there's basically like almost every tree inIreland has this super rich folklore. You
might know Mankon Magan actually oh yes, yeah, yeah, Yeah, he
(01:24:13):
has a great book. Is thatWe have a Fair Listen to the Landspeakers
is a fantastic book and you mightlike it's it's little short stories about all
the different folklore of like the differenttypes of like rivers and stuff like that.
But recently I was looking into thetrees and all them like the old
language, oh them, Yeah,a lot of letters are actually just three
(01:24:33):
names, so like it was almostlike a tree language, which is very
fascinating when you look into. Yeah. And then as we'll get back to
the Banshee there this is actually tiesin with you m quite nicely. Um.
Apparently the Banshee only laments the descendantsof pure Malaysian stock in Ireland,
(01:24:56):
so these are clarified as surnames prefixedwith all and mac. So we've got
him and only we've got Hamamni here. And some accounts even state that the
family that each family has its ownBanjee. Well, some legends claim that
she could only cry for five majorfamilies, so they said, in this
one the o'neils, so Ammonds,and with this one the O'Briens, the
(01:25:16):
O'Connors, and the Gradies and andCavanas, and of course then the Asians.
I don't know if I'm saying itright, but it's from the Lower
Gambala Aaron, which is our kindof old history. Yeah. Um,
and it's all in that it's veryinteresting. There's a lot of stuff there.
What I would say is, yeah, we do have a full episode
on it, um and it's itgoes very in depth. There's there's banshee
(01:25:42):
queens you know from from the twoadof then, and there's clean and she's
the Queen of the Banshee. Yeahyeah, yeah, yeah yeah, And
that's that's like a fucking epic.Basically, I'm want to readers um or
get like a sort of some kindof readable version of it. But she
was the Queen over the sheet Dog, which was the fairy woman of the
(01:26:03):
Hills, and she was from SouthMunster Um. She's the Goddess of Love
Him Beauty apparently, and she's actuallythe pension of County cork Um. But
there's there's just so much on it, like and it just wants to how
rich all of the history is that, like you know, every single spot
has its song folklore. It reallyis. It's it's fun to research because
(01:26:26):
sometimes like like I like going hikinga lot, and like sometimes I'll say,
for example, I was hiking maybea month and a half two months
ago, and I've seen that allthe the hawthorns were in bloom, Like
yeah, they're quite honest, Inever really noticed the hawthorn before. Be
fair with to be fair and tohammer, you haven't been ignoring them.
This has been a year of growthfor hawthorn, like right, like we
(01:26:50):
have a lot of them around here. And I even I said to the
mothers, like this one, Iwas because I've never seen it like this.
I've never seen it like this.They're everywhere like insane, like an
insane bloom like but lovely everything.My son, my son got so excited,
he was like, right, liftme up. He wants to next.
(01:27:11):
Forgetting he's a complete fucking barbarian.He cut the thing and shook the
living shit out of him. AndI mean it was nice for a good
thirty seconds, but that was theend of that tree. Like why is
that? But I've never I'd neverseen hawthorn like like nobody has like the
apple blossoms to come out this yeartoo. It's like Jesus Christ, when
if they've been like this, likethe growth if we are in global warming,
I mean, Gordon would fucking whatever'shappening right now, Ireland is absolutely
(01:27:38):
fucking benefiting from it, because stuffis, there's be fucking four cuts of
silence this year for the farmers,Like it's ridiculous. What's growing? Yeah,
no, you're right, and likethe hawthorn and stuff. So I
came home, I locked up hawthorns, and hawthorns have a fucking massive fucking
or even just as a tree,and you're like wow, like literally almost
(01:27:58):
everything that you can pluck with theair or anything you can see, anything
you can smell sense generally has sometype of folklore about it, and you
can just go down these crazy deeprabbit holes where you're you're reading about even
the functionality of them, like howthey use them as medicine and things like
that. And willows were one ofthose where they found I think it was
aspirin out with willows. But whatI'm actually trying to do with the minute
(01:28:20):
them is I'm trying to bonds eyeout. I'm kind of in the bonds
eye trees, so I'm trying tobonds eye wild Irish trees and seeing whether
they'll grow well, because not verymany people do them like I'm bonds Eye
and gore. So maybe something stealkedlike an ash if you yeah, now
there's not many a lot of themif they're dying, yeah yeah, yeah,
(01:28:43):
this this is this So I lookedit up and people were saying that
by the time, by the timeyour bonds eye gets a vege, that
will have died by that disease,because you know, you need you're really
realistically, you're talking about ten yearsbefore the tree actually a bonds I will
look like a tree and they reckonthey're going to be ale extincton for twenty
years. It's really sad actually,you know, especially with again there's more
folklore with the Harleys and yeah,but our history that they'll all be gone
(01:29:09):
to, right, yeah, Imean they a lot of Harley's even our
they're buying ash from from the UK, which is fucking hilarious, like but
that's going there too, like it'sall got like yeah, only kicking the
hand, kicking it down the roadlike it's it's it's um. It seems
to be spread all over shops anda lot of it is and we often
(01:29:30):
laugh about the Heley raise and stuff. A lot of it is that the
investive species being introduced into Ireland,like the talk about the robod engines and
carry us on the famous k Yeahyeah, but apparently, like when this
disease was spreading like this, thisash one like it was in I think
it was, don't quote me,but somewhere maybe it started in in It
(01:29:53):
is actually funning up. It started. They started just they kept moving the
trees. Like look, I'm surenot all garden centers like it, but
they're fuckers for getting an invested speciesin some garden centers. Like you walk
around garden centers hair sometimes and you'relike, that's an investor species there,
Like why why are you selling thisto people? Still, like just so
some fucker can have in the cornergardens, you know. Um, it's
(01:30:16):
kind of it's strange, like becauseit's an oxymoron, is all. You
would think garden centers in Ireland wouldbe working for the benefit of our regardens,
but they're actually working against them,you know, but they're working for
the dollars. The best gift wegot for our wedding was we got one
hundred oak trees, Irish oak trees. Really now we when we went to
(01:30:41):
actually because we're like one hundred,like this is ludicrous. And the same
guy is. I mean he wouldlike he would fucking blow your podcast,
your actual speaker would blow up ifyou spec our uncle he is. He's
a shaman. He right, it'slike fucking sweat fucking sweat huts and stuff
like that. Ah yeah yeah,yeah, Like but he has visions and
(01:31:02):
they do they fucking do come true. That like some of some of his
stuff does fucking come true. Andeven no matter how obscure it is.
And through hooka by crook, hehas become very wealthy, like out kind
of doing a lot, you know. But he he he just had envisaged
in his mind. He was like, well, oh no, but you
(01:31:25):
will you live in a property witha very long driveway like I went at
the time. I'm like, I'mnot seeing it and seeing it, you
know, I fucking just just movedout of Incha Core. I wasn't seeing.
But when we went to when weleft it go for a while,
the devout or whatever, the hundtrees and we did go out to the
to the gardens they were. Itwas a big, big fucking place.
(01:31:46):
But it had got into nam orgot into receiverships. They were all out
of their oak trees. So hesaid, look for a hundred of those
fucking things. I can sell youtwenty good sized trees in pots like but
we'll deliver them an all the bigfucking things. And but they're all native,
very cool native trees, native IRUstrees that we've gotten. So we've
(01:32:08):
twenty these fucking things, and they'veactually come with us to two different other
properties and probably fairly tall. Thereisn't one of them. I actually I
had to click back a couple ofthem, but there'sn't one of them under
like sixteen or seventeen feet now,yeah, so but I mean they'll go
in. The reason why we're we'reportions of the property. The property at
(01:32:30):
the minute where we are is kindof a lot of that is that there's
it is absolutely like there's four hundredthree hundred year old oaks on it,
Like yeah, yeah, and theyput there's something there. I tell you,
you could be in the most hypertensionfucking feeling. But walking in amongst
them fucking old oaks and stuff likethat, you're like, yeah, not
like walking through those old f Don'tthey call it? Don't they call it
(01:32:54):
the tree bathing or something. Insome countries they personallyieve it. They're like
yeah, they're like go hang outin the forest for oil and feel better.
Like I suppose if you think aboutit, the amount of oxygen,
maybe that it's putting out maybe,yeah, it's just I think it's just
like, let's een and the angthing. You know. I always felt
like, you know, say yougo up to like a Dublin or any
(01:33:14):
sort of big town or any city, it's like, you know, that's
the ang you're kind of feeling.Kind of at least for myself, some
people are actually energized being in thatenvironment. But I always felt like,
fuck, this is chaotic, andI do actually like feeling like that.
Sometimes I was like, oh,yeah, you know whatever. But then
when you get backer or you goto somewhere in nature and it's sort of
just grounds you like, you know, like I felt that even last week
(01:33:38):
I was up in I was actuallyin a bog up in leash, but
I was walking through there was likesome trees there and stuff, and I
just had a fucking arge to like, I just want to sit down in
here and just yeah, like Ithought like it was like a lower to
just sort of be there. AndI used to that when I was younger
too, like and might remember whenI was like Edding Eddie nineteen, I
(01:33:59):
used to walk through just like FormMountain is not far from where I live,
as maybe about an hour and ahalf walk of it as as far
enough, but I used to walkup there and just sit and just chill
out, like back in the daywhen I was a smaller giant, Like
I'd go up in smaller giant walkback. Yeah, the trees aren't enough
to alter your consciousness. You needsomething to help the trees or what they're
trying to do with trees. Butit is true. Yeah, like like
(01:34:24):
I found like I've been in thecity, you know for a while,
and I'm at the point in mylife where i just don't want to be
in the city anymore, you know, like I'm just like kind of fed
up with the place. But Iwill say, yeah, same, like
I'm just you know, even goingdown to Kara Chloe, You've got the
beach, you've got the dunes,you've got the forest all in one,
and it like during lockdown. Iused to cycle out there on me lonesome,
(01:34:45):
and I used to love just walkingaround the forest completely alone, and
I'd be having the best at times, you know, and just again feeling
so energized and so I don't know, it's just such a nice thing to
do. Now maybe it's part ofit, like that has to be sort
of balanced out with being able tolook at high speed pornography also, you
know what I mean, Like it'sall you know, like it's all like
you know, four hours in theforest, maybe an hour and a half
(01:35:08):
onun porn ub something like that.But it's I think it's all Yeah,
it's the ying and the yang toyour point, Rob, it's all um
sort of you know, if youlived in the middle of nowhere, maybe
you get frustrated if you had nocare and you couldn't go anywhere. Whereas
when you can balance the two out, it's like the perfect existence. You
can have pringles when you need toexactly. Definitely, not every time you
(01:35:29):
want to, but when you needto exactly. But it's I often because
you're both kind of well for quoteunquote country lads versus what any person from
Dublin would ever think of, youknow, your country from the city.
Yeah, So so maybe you knowyou're able to flip back handier, like
because I know for a fact it'smade of mine who are city, city
born and bread and they would gointo because their chest would give in for
(01:35:50):
the for the lack of I supposepopulace around them, Yeah, to drop
them into the middle of a field. Like I find like I'm not as
man for the sea because Inland Countyjust didn't grow up in that. But
I mean I can remember mountain bikingfor hours by myself through forests like and
even like or just just hanging out, just climbing trees, building stuff.
(01:36:15):
But it's funny, yeah, yeah, one of my friends, somebody,
some of the boys I know intothat and thirty seconds, Like they're like
the kids nowadays who can't last longerthan ten seconds on TikTok. Just what
it's funny you say that because Ihave a mad affinity with the sea.
I love the ocean. It probablywill be my briny grave at something else.
You know, I don't think itenough. That's one of those sexy,
(01:36:36):
fucking silky silkies. Please God,we live in hope. But it's
not afterwards, that's it. Mandrowns to death with strange cryptis. But
my my grandfather would have been afisherman out and dune. Garvin and all
my family like there's a mad justgrow for the sea. None of they
(01:36:57):
don't like it. But I dothink, like, you know, a
generation imprint is you know something likethat where like because obviously it's not like
you just became a fisherman back thenlike your granddad was and his granddad wasn't
that they were all fishermen, Soit must be something really like deep into
yourself. Absolutely. I saw somethingthat blew my fucking mind. A couple
of months back. I had totake my phone, dropped it as we
(01:37:20):
all do, and mad shit onmy phone and called quickly into the mothers
because she has something of everything,and she had a you know, a
drawer phone. She's like, ah, here, this is one of my
an old phone. Throw it's it'sall you know, it's open for you
go to buy a new one,or it's unblocked, say and I put
my SIM card in and fucking therewas nothing. Nothing on the phone or
(01:37:42):
you know, photographs of my mychild and things that mother grandmothers tent to
have. But there was a videofrom years and years ago. We didn't
have a video camera when or smallbut my American cousins did, and they
had my cousin Dorene, who's halfthe person. I clipped together loads of
these videos and had it on WhatsApp. I was able to presend it over
(01:38:05):
from the early eighties, like andthese different visits that like through the years
that they had called to our house, these videos, and I'd never seen
myself really as a child, andI would never seen myself on video when
I was four. And what washilarious is like my child looks like me
more now than when I was actuallya child. So I don't know how
(01:38:25):
that's possible, Like, but whatwas insane? I'm watching it with my
wife and I'm stomping around my cousinfull of bravado, the whole lot.
I mean, if you close youreyes, it was my son, Like
do not know how I sounded,but to carry on of me and the
fucking the confident shiit I was comingout with and just it was ridiculous.
(01:38:47):
But how he would have never Idon't behave like that now? So how
how is he literally me from fuckingthirty five for thirty six years ago?
It's and it's it's the Emperor,And I mean he was born in Dublin.
But like you have. I mean, I'm not joking, like he
was walking at six, I'm likesix months that kid we went, we
(01:39:08):
have to raise him in the country. He's not built for wide up.
He just wants to bullock through things, like he's not meant for footpaths and
straight lines. And he just knewby him like brought him down here and
it's as ridiculous, nude everywhere allthe time. We couldn't have had had
him in a built up area.It couldn't like, yeah, it would
(01:39:30):
have. He would have grown upanxious, not known why he was true,
he was different, all that stuffthey say with them nutrition, Like
you can't just have a one sizefits all based on genetics. You know.
It's like there's certain things that willbe good for you, but like
bad for someone else. You know. It's I remember reading again, I
should know the name of this book, but I read a book years ago
(01:39:53):
about eat who you are or whatever, and it was basically for I guess
fucking Celtic Caucasians was vastly different.We cannot even process olive oil the same
way the people from fucking Sicily can. Should we say, yeah, you
know what I mean, And thatwas only a minor scale, but it
was it was certain roots, likewe were not supposed to be eating pat
(01:40:13):
joy, like we're not. Youknow, we're really not. It's not
good, like I think so oursystem shock like sense. Yeah, yeah,
like different things like I think it'slike tomatoes even like which are new
or I mean the fat of America. Well they found them in America and
they brought them back to the Arabelike saw and then in Ireland we didn't
get them for a long time.But like everybody I talked to that's done
(01:40:36):
an allergy test. I swear toGod, everybody is allergic tomatoes. It's
at the top of the list.Yeah I got, well, yeah I
did. I actually did one,and I got kind of ship ones.
I had dark cracked like eggs,like imagine, how do you side step
an egg? We're great difficulty thammedout and then but not true that there
(01:40:58):
I reckon, like I'm just pullingthis out of the hours. But obviously,
you know, our ancestors just grewup with maybe they probably had at
best, maybe five or six differenttypes of dinner that they would do best
best, and so that was thefancy Dan Lord Billington's that was my gag.
But it was like, you know, spuds with it was spuds with
(01:41:20):
a bit of meat or maybe fish, and that was it. Like And
so now it's like, well Ihave to have me five vegge day and
I'll get them across the spectrum ofI'll have an avocado, I'll have a
couple of carrots, I'll have thisnap and yeah you do sometimes wonder you're
like, well, we weren't reallylike made to eat these here and we're
(01:41:41):
an island nation, so you're like, like are we depending on where you
are on the island, you wereeating either fish or meat, Like yeah,
like time time you're gang if youif if they they didn't tip,
like the chances are they weren't havingmuch fish, do you know what I
mean? Like they're they're from notvery far away count to Limerick, all
right, but like fifteen miles.But it goes back many generations. But
(01:42:03):
it's like these were all beef peopleand have beef. I can I do
you know what? I taught myselfto like fish when I moved to Cork
and because I as fancy as itwas like grown up a fish finger was
it, but any like because we'rein beef country here, it was like
(01:42:24):
beef like blended and putting my bottle. It was just beef. That's what
it all. It was. Andstill to this day, I know people
talk about beef being heavy on thegoat and you know sometimes you know,
I swear to God, I couldjust just eat beef, and I know
for a fact I'd be absolutely grand. I feel energized from it. I
(01:42:45):
feel no fiber issues, like youknow what I mean, there's no backing
up. I never people say itand it's like you have none of those
issues whatsoever. It's do be shitting. One might come a little bit later,
but it does come if you thinkabout it. Short and there all
the vegeta vegetables like they eat asmuch fucking grass as any fucking animal.
(01:43:08):
You know, you're getting all thefucking greens you need. Hey, listen,
we have Yeah, we we havebeen three fucking stoners under the A
three full of fucking bansheese fucking withspiders being written, We'll do that.
I'm only looking at it gone aswe've been fucking this. This could go
(01:43:29):
fucking five hours. How long isa recording actually it's not sure, I'd
say, we're coming up and notfar off two hours I'd say yeah,
I'd say, because it's like twentypast ten now. So we started talking
to Day, started talking to Dayrather yeah, and we we finally FU
pull the triggering. I don't Idon't even know. I'm glad there isn't
(01:43:49):
a stop watch on fuck Zoom,to be honest you, because I'd be
only watching the fucking thing. Butsho id written notes here and why I
even did that, because I've hadto do it for the last few guests.
And I actually I'd say if Ijust wrote Mickey at the time,
it would have started the ball rolling. We'd be like back in episode one
five you thet Tom. Actually,by the way, you must come on.
(01:44:15):
I have a couple of ideas forepisodes. We'll tell you what we'll
do. Notes on that, thevampire Irish thing we get yes, yeah,
yeah, yeah, why not?And um, but is I'm going
to be down here nexative. Iwas always in Gory. I was in
Gory, great crowd and Gory.I learned something from Gory that it's um
(01:44:39):
it's actually nineteen ninety four, yes, and I was I could I could
explain away or have it explained awayto me. My patrons explained it to
me that yes, some of thenineties gears back because I literally saw young
ones walking down the street like we'retalking, tell you what I want,
what I really like? Oh butI am. I will not accept seeing
(01:45:03):
not one but two in the onefucking town on the one night, not
in conjunction with each other. FiatPunto's still running, and yes, still
running like Fiat puntos. We aresupposed to be, like you know,
fucking pez like they just end.When they end, it's the end of
it. They you know, andyou push them out into the sea and
(01:45:26):
that's the end of Like they're playingand they're planning. POGs up in Gory
still have fogs tournaments. It's theGory Olympics. And I'm bringing my show
to the fucking wild, fucking bedlandsof Enniscarthy just to see walking a fucking
lunatics are going to Cryptics will comeout and when when I'm November November,
(01:45:51):
go to that. Yeah it's aFriday, it's a Friday night things Friday
or Saturday night light. Well,it's hopefully all things going well. I
should be back in when Exfort withthe house stare by November please God like
the candle and all the rest ofit. But yeah, so no,
I'd definitely be on for That'll beright. There's a lot of four played
there of Wexfort Town. Tom,you need to get down here and do
a fucking shawl over my injuries andparties. I was in Wexford Town with
(01:46:13):
Delamare a couple of a couple ofand I kind of was showing the tit
a small bit, if you knowwhat I mean. I was leaning the
other out from underneath the jacket witha promoter there and and funny enough then
he was he was organizing a giga couple of weeks ago later, and
I kind of left in there thatyou know, and there was nothing for
coming from him because he runs thattown like and I was like, okay,
(01:46:35):
I might have to have order himTom Semi n ldam that are on
there, and I shoved it wasducking because I've I've had nothing but grow
for Wexford and I played. Iplayed Wexford when I did Caveman. I
played that time like it was soldout there. It's the small room and
in the opper house but at thesame time it was still It was one
of those few times when you doin your life where you can do generally
(01:46:57):
two hours to just sit by here, and we could probably do another two
hour no bother. Yea, itwas the exact same. And doing that,
I literally just an all right,bringing another crowd and I'll do it
again. It was that much funand wakes for that night. Yeah,
slok, send down, send medown a cow's head and I'll put it
on the fucker's bed, like Johnjust over there, get all the heads
(01:47:17):
for you? Have we any more? Have we any any inkland? Maybe
later we had? I thought aboutit. I'm doing the Cork Podcast Festival.
It would have been great to havebe on. We might be still
fucking slot still open, I'm notsure, but have you any plans on
doing more live ones? Yeah?Like, so we're kind of now with
(01:47:38):
the minute, like because both ofus are acquiring property as it were,
we are we're in flux, likeAndrew Tate there or something. Yeah,
we're in flux. So we're settingup the studios well, and of course
then there will be a push intoYouTube. So kind of what we're thinking
of doing probably is maybe the sametime next year, if not maybe early
(01:47:59):
next year going into it, wealso, much like yourself, you have
a couple of plans where maybe wewanted to get older podcasts involved and do
it, maybe a show getting ina couple of podcasters from further Afield in
Ireland. So yeah, it's allthere. It's just I suppose you know
yourself, trying to juggle real lifewith with decided things and you're trying to
(01:48:20):
fucking take all the boxes. Toughgoing, you know, and it's not
like you're a couple of accountants doingan accountain podcast. You're doing a podcast
that is so abstract and so fuckingthat's not like you can go you can
be at work going so while I'matt here listen, Yeah, it's gonna
get your views. That's just whilewe're in the canteen spider fannies how much
(01:48:44):
like, Yeah, that's the hrproblem for me. It's not it's definitely
a liboral love like it's a it'sa it's an extracurricular thing for sure.
So it is like you know,you know yourself, it's you're trying to
make time for ball. We lovedthe buzz from the live show, like
it was on them things. Itwas. It was definitely a box to
tick where you do it and yougo, fuck, we did that.
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That's awesome. But it's like itwas a super cool experience, like from
from just being an up on stagekind of position where you're getting laughs and
stuff, but also getting to meetlike putting faces to names and things like
that and actually hanging out with peoplewas fantastic. So um, it's just
yeah, next year we'll probably geta few up in Dublin maybe and a
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bit of a crack I'm sure.Look in the meantime, if there is
anybody listening to this that doesn't followthe Monster Falls Boys, their march is
now legal, so anyway, Imean for a short time over only you
can buy or you can go straightto the source, which was a ting
ting in Malaysia. He straight outthat content well or than that, Robin
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Aim and out the Monster Falls fuckingbyes. This has been actually, you
know what this has been. Thishas been absolutely conseixy and beautiful. I'll
rolled into one. Thank you veryvery much, sir, appreciate them on.
Thank you very much. Buys.What an absolute glorious podcast. God,
that was a lot of fun.Like I said, check out the
boys follow Monster puzz. Their marchis ridiculously good too. Their podcast is
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outrageously too good. I've done acouple with them. I'm going to be
coming back to do a couple ofmore. I did one about aliens two
years ago, and I know Idid one last year about some strange,
silky waldrus kind of thing that Lordmental to see. If you want to
hear more of us together, that'swhere you'll find it. But also the
lads have been on before, sogo back through the archives have a look.
We're in there again with another reallylong podcast. But the lads are
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absolute class. Like I told youat the top of the show, have
a look in the link. Clickthrough at the link in the show notes
for all the tour dates, thehill tickets, the live podcast and at
Nelson. You need to get yourhands on like home on app, pay
Threon right, mind yourselves, keepyour hands off it over the weekend,
give it a rest, and I'lltalk to you again next week. Nike
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A bless and thanks