269 - Jack Devaney

The Mancunian madman/genius and creator of World Around Ewe joins me for a brief look behind the curtain that is his brain and explain his adorable and scary Franken-creations.
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Episode Transcript

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Well was the crack? Everybody?How are you doing? Welcome to another
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Is there a full hour sit downdrink it can enjoy it and get a
gander as to what you be expectingwith Tom's new show Taken Off, which
debut was in November. Right,death stuff out of the way, Moving
on to his guest, I oneof the most intriguing people I've ever come
across online. Turns out it's asmaller world than you'd imagine. He knew
me from those conspiracy guys. Iknew him from his incredible, incredible TikTok

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and Instagram videos and the products hemakes, and not least his hilariously brilliant
Northern English accent, as well ashis very very good podcast called the World
Around You You've been Sheep You,which is his title, as well his
handle on all social medias. Butchrist, did I laugh? Did I?

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Laugh at this one. This wassome craig enjoy the brilliant Jack Devini.
What is the craig? Jack isthe divine or Devinnie and we've been
talking it's Deveney meet. Yeah.Yeah, you're a second person to get
it right in months. I hadsomeone else to do but day and I
think it was in the post office. They just tried to say it and
they got it right. Normally peoplesay that the Vanni or do Lorri or

(03:20):
Delaney and stuff, just adding extraletters. Yeah, yeah, welcome to
my world. Try having a namelike omahoney and meet somebody who has never
announced it before. It's like,especially when I'm in London, they're like
so many vowels, so many vowels. It's like, yeah, all right,
sorry about that. I don't knowhow to change it for you.
So yeah, Devine because I wouldhave it reads like meat to Davini,

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and I went to school with twodeviney lads. Well, the name supposedly
comes from me. Dad always toldme some story that that's far fetched,
but about a Spaniard and an Irishperson who wanted to get that end of
the way. We want another butthe Irish woman's dad won't let it happen.
And then the Spaniard said somewhe alongthe lines of what if I take
off of your name and half ofmy name, then it's not like you

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thought grandkids are going to have aSpanish name. They'll kind of have your
name as well. Apparently that's whereit comes from. But I'm buying asally,
sorry to go out his ass,you know, no, I'm buying
it for sure. For sure therewas if you looked into it, there
was a cup a Spanish I spoodweenhim and armada of some sort came to

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actually help the Irish. Now theycame too late to the battle. Um,
but they'd come this far. Alot of them just went a fucking
will stay on the west of Ireland. So what you'll find is a lot
of like especially like this the southwestof Ireland, like Kerry and edges of
Cork. You'll find there's still likethere's there's whole families like with jet black
hair and swarthy looking and who haveno recollection of anything to do with with

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anything to do with anywhere else.Yeah I never knew that. Yeah,
yeah, I've never been to Ireland, but I never would have assumed the
other bit of a Mediterranean Swiss anywhere. Oh definitely you'll see yeah, you'll
see it like in Gaelic football games, like if you're watching if you watch
Kerry, they've they've got these giantblokes with swarthy black hair like in It's

(05:08):
it's it does stand out as asan irishness. It stands out like you
look very like you'd fit in asa Divini. No problem, you look
like me essentially just got high fromthe sun, broke just that strong Caucasian
look. Like. It's nice toyou to use the word strong. I
would have gotten that far. Justyou know, well, if something is

(05:29):
something is one is heavily in onedirection. I'm gonna go with the word
strong. I like it fair.I just don't want you're building the wrong
image of me to the people.You know. It's not like it's a
shave that then nothing. Yeah,scars on before lads, you have to
join the patron to see this man. Good lord, he's gorgeous to look
directly at. That's very kind ofyou. Oh you're keeping anyway. I'm
all right, bro, I'm allright. You great, great, there's

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very very A few times I'll stopon social media, I just absolutely crack
myself laughing like you know it,because all the social media typically is internally
yeah you smirk or some mark.It's it's very very pretentious, like,
isn't it well? I see.The thing that got me on it a
while was just this stupid, likefive second video of someone that had made

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this weird meme where it's got thissort of like and and and then music,
and it's got a picture of theJFK Airports shine, and then a
picture of JFK just blends in froma portal and it's saying John F.
Kennedy. The F stand it's JohnF Revenge. The F stands for fur
but in JFK's voice. And thathad me fucking howling, me just to

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the point where I just kept goingback to it every four to five minutes
to watch it again and get agood laugh because just very little on there
gets me. But that was whyyour stuff got me Day one. It
was like, oh, this isoutside the left field, he's out in
the other field looking in it.That got your It was the dog's foot

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and something pinged. I went holdon, one second, hold on one
second, this is the right pencilcase. One second, World around you
once and just all you know,there's like something that stays subliminally in your
brain for like seven months and it'sthere and then something makes a connection.
I was like, what is andnext video up, of course because TikTok

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can read my mind, was you'regone, oh yeah, this is me
pencil case from back in the day. And I had I just could not
get enough. It was like andit was the it's the dead pan you
deliver the description with is everything likeglad you like that. I'm not putting
that on in it. That's justI'm used to it in it. That's

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that's like me bread and bo It'slike a staple at a business man.
It's just I'm so used to it, and I forget though in it that
people aren't used to like dead animalsand oh yeah, yeah, yeah it's
it didn't That didn't freak me outin anyway. But then from the other
side I thought of about it,I went, God, yeah, you
couldn't have. If you put toomuch tord into how people would receive it,

(08:09):
you probably wouldn't put it up online. Like No, I only did
it to prove a point to UNI. Years when I first made the first
one to prove a point to UNIthat it was a feasible product, and
then it turned out I'd misunderstood theproject entirely. Anyway, Okay, I
ended up going viral overnight. Iwoke up in the morning to dozens and
dozens of messages asking to buy oneabout six seven years ago, and I

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thought that people being weird taking apiss, You're not having me honor something.
Now go on inga. There's hundredsof thousands of people have looked at
this picture I've put up. BecauseI would have been happy if three people
up voted it on Inga, becauseI could have just screenshot it and shown
it to the teacher's gone, yep, that's feasible. I don't have to
do any more work for this module. I'm gonna have a beer. But
that's not what happened. I endedup getting interviewed by newspapers and ship because

(08:56):
of it, and that never stopped. But yeahs, just everything I'd make.
They were like, do you mindif we put this in the paper?
You've made an appendent out of arat scrolling? Can we can we
pop that on the on there andart? And I was like, yeah,
yeah, just an idiot, youknow, and then have found it
really hard to get a regular jobbecause they google your name and not in
it to see you know, isthis guy a mentalist? As he put

(09:18):
wade shit online and they put mename and and just kept coming up with
a picture of a rat star.So that's one of the things that got
me in trouble with UNI as well. For that, I got a basically
a cease and desist off the beingof our Department of Arts and Humanities because
I was put apparently for I thinkit was nine or ten days if you
googled the name of the university.They've changed names since, but I like

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to think it's because of me.But it will be a marketing finger,
a money laundering thing with a wantthat dodgy bastards. But it would be
that if you put in the nameof the UNI, first few hits like
would be university building a lot ofimages, but then about ten to twelve
pitches in pitches of dead rats inmy head. I lasted nearly two weeks.
I got emails off the guy methim lately, art markets, craft

(10:05):
markets, and that he's a soundguy. He was like, I thought
it was funny, but I gotsold. I had to do that,
and he apologized to him and thatit was just sound, just normal bloke
doing his job in it, butI made his job harder. Just if
you if you don't for any likeyou're coming in. I love the fact
that we gave no We did thatapropos of nothing for anybody who just went,

(10:28):
oh, I'll have a listen tothis episode with no idea who I'm
talking to. We jumped straight intothat. I love it because now people
are absolutely gripped with the notion ofwall fucking one second because we didn't.
We didn't even fully say was itwhat the purpose of this rat was?
So what were you studying that everybodyelse was trying to make I'm guessing everybody

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else was making boxes basically, Yeah, they were making chairs and shelves,
and I made a right into apencil case. I just misunderstood. I
kept getting sort of not told offthere, but the teachers had pulled me
aside and be like, Jack,why have you have you made this?
I made a couple of them swearedat one point, so where the fuck
have you done that? And I'dexplain it to them, you know,

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with what I thought was logical,and it just turned out I had completely
misinterpreted most of the stuff they askedme to do over three years, nearly
every time I got it wrong,but I and then at one point,
near the end of the second year, the guy, one of the guys,
came to me, one of theteachers I actually sort of did take
the time with me, and waslike, look me, I think I

(11:37):
think you're struggling, but I don'tthink you know you're struggling. You know,
you clearly think you're doing okay,but we don't know what you're doing,
and we don't know why you're doingthis. So why are you doing
this? Is you doing this becauseyou find it funny? And this wasn't
even about the rats at this point, But I think this was a module

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where I made stuff out of paper, weaved people like a basket because they
wanted them. That project was calledCultural Magpie, and they wanted us to
show something from a different culture.And I just spent four months on an
exchange trip in Japan. So Iwas like, well, I did they
do paper stuff? They do ora garmy in Japan, So I'll make
something out of paper. But Ican't be asked leading or a garmy.

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That's hard, so I'll weave itinto baskets and not and vases. So
I did that out. I've gotthis all this fancy paper from a place
called top Ness, which is likea proper hippieish town, which is another
another place where I actually got abullocking off of the mare from top Ness.
I applied for an art market thereand then they said no, and

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I was like, I do remindme, asking why is it something I
did with the application, like wedon't think you'd be a good fit for
it, And I saw me asswith that, really, and then because
she said it's it's not it doesn'tfit with the camember said the vegetarian ethos,
of the vegan ethos of the town. And I was like, well,
all right. Then there's five minuteslater I sent her back a fucking

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an essay there's spitefully typed on thephone with all of the details of the
local fishmonger's, butcher's, leather workersand all these shops and not round in
the town, and the mobile onesas well, and he was like,
these ones are allowed, And thenI can't. She'd said some at back,
who wasn't happy with me, andthen I wasn't allowed in the markets

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there, but I went to thistop nest to get some fancy paper,
and even then I just ended upgetting pissed with a few a few chefs
and the local smackhead. And thenthe smack the local smackhead was this lovely
woman who you wouldn't have known shewas a smackhead if she hadn't told me
herself and the locals hadn't warned me. And then she walked me back to
the train station, and that Ididn't even try to rob me. And

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I got this fancy paper, madeit into baskets, and then he had
showed it to the teacher, andthe teachers like, Jack, I don't
I don't know why you've done this. So by time I got round to
diving the taxidermy, it was justsort of part for the course. One
of the module was I made them. It was something to do. I
can't remember the name of that module, but it was something to do with

(14:07):
communication, and they wanted it tobe like for a certain issue, and
I was like, well, Ithink people are scared. Basically, I
don't really know anything. My brainjust seems to assume stuff and then I
take that as a fact. Ididn't know that I was doing that.
For a very long time. Iwould think this is stuff I've read or
heard, but it wouldn't be it'sjust stuff. My head's just gone,

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this is a thing. Meet this, This is a thing. Don't worry.
It's a thing. So I gotit in my head that people don't
like the kids having phones, butthey need to know where they are at
all times. So I came upwith this idea for necklaces that are tracking
devices in that's crazy, but that'swhat I thought. Thought it was good,
and I made loads of little onesout of metal and paved some out

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of foam and wood and plastic andnot in chains and stuff. Showed it
to the teacher and he was like, I did a presentation, and it
was like every one in the classwas just sort of shaking the reds because
I'd gone off on some tangent Ithink about kids getting raped in vans,
and I thought, I was like, this is kind of the end game
and all fairness of yeah, yeah, you're trying to prevent. But apparently

(15:13):
that was a bit too far togo, and I didn't see that.
I didn't think that far into it, and it I just thought, this
is why we need these and everyother people have done stuff like, oh,
this is for scuba divers. Youknow. They popped this little thing
on the on the clothes and itwill pin if they die. And I
would ask questions like, how wasit going to know the dead, you
know? And what the fuck isthe point if they're already lived? Yeah,

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yeah, they want it soon aminute. You want to you want
it to be proactive. Why I'mproactive with my thing. But even that
was wrong. You know, everythingI didn't, Man, I couldn't do
right. Jeez, what kind ofphilistine college did you go to? Jesus
Christ? Do you know what they'retrying? They were trying to make more
teachers, that's all they would bythe sounds of things. I've said this
for years. Yeah, some ofthe people, they were lovely people on

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because some of some of them wereup their own ass. A couple of
them, which again I didn't reallyhave a problem with telling them because it
was doing me edding and brown nosingas well, which it just seems to
teach it how to be, howto have like a corporate mentality or something.
I suppose I don't know what theright word is it, but me,
that's always so many educations just turningsquare pegs into around holes. That's

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it. So you've you've got totry and ignore it the best you can,
but play their game if you can. It's and it's it's never too
late to just like I don't knowhow, but through the slue skate that
is school, I ended up beinga civil engineer, and I'm like,
how, what the fuck? Howdoes this happen? I was enjoying welding.
I wanted to be a welder,and then before I knew it,
I was out on a building sitelike and that lasted tip, but I

(16:47):
not long, not too long after, I maybe eight nine, ten years
afterwards, I finally found stand upcomedy and went right, fuck all that
then. But it's bizarre that yousay, because I didn't. I don't
see anything incorrect, and what yousaid, it was like, Butcher,
this is the way open places.Do you know what? I was only
talking at a podcast the other dayand we were talking about odd things that
I'm relatively I'm a new parent inthat he's three years of age, but

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prior to him, I knew thelast child and knew was me, so
everything is what I was saying isthis. I don't know if this is
weird, but he comes out withsome of the most unbelievably present things you've
ever heard in your life, becausehe hasn't been affected by the things by
you know, by talking to peoplein you know, trying to hide their
emotions. So one of the things, like I was asking him the other
day, he'd been at a birthdayparty, and this is right up your

(17:33):
streets at a birthday party, andyou're supposed to ask not just hey,
how was it? How was it? And walk away. You're supposed to
ask them things that they would haveremembered so that they learned to log log
shit. You're not that kind ofway, So I wouldn't know. I
wouldn't know it either. Yeah,so I don't know what's selling? Yeah,
I kind of. I wouldn't knowany of this, That's what I

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would. But my wife she knowsall this stuff, right, so she's
you got to ask him after what? And then now I love asked him
because the most unbelievable fucking answers comeout. Genuinely. He was at this
party, that's kid's birthday party,and I said, well, how was
it? He was like, itwas good. They let me blow out
a candle. And what you dois, like I said, you got

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to ask him the stages of thingshe would remember and I would And what
was the candle on? I swearto god, Jack, you went fire
and walked away, genius. Thereyou go, good night, and thank
you very much. There's no moreI'd be proud of him. You know
what you write me, I'm noteven going to correct you, not even
he pulled me the other day.He was looking at an old poster of
mine and during lockdown, because mywife dared me, I grew a big

(18:36):
ass, long fucking mullet. We'retalking dog bounty hunter thing, just to
see. And it was an oldposter and he was looking at He said,
I swear to god he will.Why is it called the mullet when
fish don't have any hair? Andput the poster down and walked out of
him. All right, that's thenthey get that ground out of him at
school in it because it will bepunished for asking questions when he gets to

(18:56):
school. Oh I am the schoolsany won't got any questions? And you're
like, oh yeah, can youcan you cook a burger and a toaster
get out. You know. Wellthe number one thing, because he asked
me on the podcast, goes,what do you think he'll be? Yes,
I don't care as long as he'sinteresting. I don't care. Just
as long as people want to speakto him. Yeah when pop, when
he walks in, oh, Iwould want for my kids. When he

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walks in a room, maybe onlyone person goes, oh yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, happy. Youknow one person in there. You
know it's going to be his missusout. But if he walks in a
pub or something and people look andgo oh fucking out daves it, Yeah
yeah, yeah, yeah, that'sthat's all I want for him. It
was he hates to be one dayyou like this? He hated. He

(19:41):
called he caught a mid air andall. Its pretty impressive. He caught
this honey beeat midair swallowed it.I'm like, gee, I mean is
if you don't he's what I went, Okay, fair enough, so it's
gone. It's gone. Why canI ask? Why? Why g eat
to be? He's for his honey? Okay, you do know that they

(20:02):
don't have the honey on him likeor in him. I swear to God
he looked me dead eyed, went, oh, I know I'm walked off,
all right, No more my lads. More like he's doing it as
a threat to the others. Sothe ringing Honey tribute, I think what
it was, the way I devisedmy head was that it was almost like,
you know how America goes in anddoes deals out a good dose of
freedom, do you know? Sowhat they do is they feign an attack

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and they with a little bit ofviolence. First they draw him out,
then they implant a new leader,which I'm guessing is probably going to be
the Cash and then he just mindsall their their minerals and it's seen as
a savior. Just little cia momentthere. I was like put doing that
moment, he's just when I knowI walked off. I'm not asking anymore.

(20:47):
I'm happy with that. That's goodenough for me. If that's where
your head's at, that's that's fine. Point out what you want to wear
off the So I got you,Kip, but I had I had a
duckling once he b and I justfucking obviously it kills, but the ducklings
are stupid in it, so they'lljust I think I had three at the
time, and they watched one eatit, and I was watching them,
thinking, there's nothing now you cando. It's either ring its neck or

(21:11):
hope it just survives, you know, it swallows it whole. You know.
Yeah, I was watching it andI was thinking, O fuck,
it's going to die. And theothers are watching it and getting close to
it, and I was thinking,does this know that he's no, that
that's one's about to die from thebit. And I'm watching it, and
then these two see another b andthen fights over it and go for it,

(21:32):
and I was like, oh,no, no, I'm putting too
much on them there. It's nevergonna I'd be worried. They're straight I'm
watching hens. I can watch theHens forever because they're straight up killers.
They're like the ones here we call. One of them is called Missus Padmore
because she kind of reminds me whatit was given by my mother. There's

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kind of a heavier, strong birdwho runs the house in downtown Abbey,
but she's got red hair. She'scalled Missus pat Moore apparently. But basically
she given even the lord of themanner kind of stays out of her fucking
way, and that's this hen thedog like it's now a hilarious thing,
like she'll actually just bite the dogif the dogs walking by. Just come
on, let's go. I haven'thad a scrapping days and the dogs like

(22:15):
a fuck I wasn't looking for Okay, let's go and a hen just straight
up. It's a psychopath. Butthere's an a mouse anywhere. The cat
does fuck up the hens for therats as well best they can, but
there are will normally best the chickenI found. They will have the mince
out. You would shout for therat in fairness you've it's got more going

(22:41):
for it and it but still youthink it might a couple of chickens on
one rat, you think they'd haveit. But a sausage what a hen?
Yeah, they have nicked the sausageof you. As used to go
mad when they get it up.They go fucking ballistic over a nice mean.
I think the old dinasas Or comesout of them, like the old
raptor comes out of them when theyget a bit of meat. Because they

(23:03):
love me. There's that kill billmusic kind of kicks in. You can
you know that siren goes off.You can see their eyes just flaring up
like they're after taking a couple ofpills or something. It's like, oh,
oh, there's an old raptor inthese fuckers. I know what you
mean. The fucking it can bevicious and all of it. I mean,
the peck and order thing really doesstand. Because we had a really

(23:26):
kind of weekend. We got onefrom one of those battery hens. Yeah
we ah, they look after him, will they fuck? No? Fucking
try and kill it? It is. This is weak. It's like they're
in school. One's weaken and ushave it, and then the one that
was at the bottom. We'll batterthat one first. Oh yeah, yeah,
yeah, it's just to prove apoint and go, boys, don't
one of you know? It?Doesn't They don't like each o them.

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I'm sure they hate each other.My missus is obsessed with the idea that
if you buy fish, like youshouldn't buy fish, because what if you
buy ones and they don't get onand then you force them to live with
each other. I have that everytime i'd buy a new goldfish. People,
how do you know they don't?They don't. They might hate to
each other. Juck, what thefuck you want about fish? They don't
know, they don't have friends.Look at them. They're not even looking

(24:11):
at each other. But it's fuckingwhere do you get the where do you
source your your taxidermay Because now,by the way, since I was I
become obsessed of looking at all yourdifferent Now I get loads of taxidermy showing
up and TikTok and the like,you know, every time. Now it's
like, oh, clearly Thomas intothis. But they showed me once.
I'm like, no, I don'twant to see a ram that somebody has

(24:33):
spent six months putting in a fuckingdiorama. I don't know. I don't
know, but we'll see when thatsomeone spent a few hours running some mopsass.
That's what I want. I wantin taxidermy for the normal guy.
This is that that is exactly whatit is. Because I've convinced anarex ruin
everything, right the coach, Yeah, nerds you know they call like you

(24:59):
know, hyper nerds ruin everything.They'll ruin anything because they're just they'll go
to the nth degree. They knowall the history on the thing, and
it's like, oh no, itwas fun at the surface, You've just
fucking ruined it. Whether it's asport or a piece of art or anything.
But that's why taxis your taxidermy isexactly where I needed to be.
It's like, yeah, that's whatI thought, taxidermy. Yes, that's
what I needed from this, becauseI'm glad I was never really into it

(25:23):
before. Of course you weren't.I wasn't. I remember when when I
was a kid that used to sayto me Manchester Museum and I'd look at
it all and be like, oh, this is meant but the zoo's probably
better because in the zoo they movearound and that obviously the ones in the
museum don't really apart from the fewlizards they got in tanks and but other

(25:45):
than that, I didn't have aninterest in it. How did you do
a rest day one? Then?If that's the case, the very fust
one I did was a mouse.I did it. So the very very
first one me and we girlfriend,the one I'll live with. Then she'd
come up north when I was goneto visit me Mam and dad, and
then she came up for a coupleof weeks and we didn't have much to

(26:06):
do after a few days, sohe was like, well, just looking
at weird shit on eBay, youknow. And then I was looking at
it and saw that some of itwas genuinely you could see it was genuinely
ship and I'd never done it before, but I'd been working in a butcher
since I was about forty and wasabout twenty one. Yeah, yeah,
And I'm good at taking apart deadanimals in it. I'm good at I'm

(26:26):
good at cutting stuff up and diggingholes. That's what my qualifications in history
have got me. So a lotof money to kill people in it.
That's a lot of money to bemade. And if you can kind of
swallow at the moment, so wegot I said I could probably do that,
and I wanted to show off abit as well, you know,
because yeah, I know, andI don't have much else can show off

(26:48):
with other than watch me dig thishole quickly. So this was a proper
thing we could sit down and dotogether, I thought. And she was
into it a bit, and thenshe didn't really want to touch the inside
of it because it was a fuckingdead mouse. I understood that. We
did it in my mom's back gardenon the old barning table, and it
took the fucking ages to the pointwhere this was the middle of the summer.
It it had gone dark and itwas it was kind of nice because

(27:10):
kind of romantics. After a bit, you know, we lit a candle
and that Sai didn't have a torch. I had a pet goose as well,
which was obsessed with my girlfriend becauseit had been printed on her that
was called grease, so that shekept coming and having her look and she
was buzzing. I think because wehadn't locked her in a shed at night.
She just get to sit with usin the evening. Right, I
did this mouse and then buzzing,here I can do that. Showed it

(27:30):
in at Uni because it turned outI'd had a summer project, which I
didn't know I had. I didn'tremember it or I hadn't written it down
or whatever, you know, soI was like, oh, fucking I
took some pictures of this mouse soit was skinny. Yeah, I look
at this, and then showed themto this little group, which mortified some
of the class, really upset herto each other. She thought had done

(27:51):
it just to upset up because wehad that sort of a dynamic. I
think in her eyes and kind ofin mine, we just didn't get along
just give conflict of you know,she really cared and I really didn't.
I suppose was no no fucking andyeah, so I showed and then left.

(28:14):
It didn't such it for ages.And then a few months later we
had this little project where we hadto bring back some from our past,
and they meant transferable skill, notionthat from your past. You're like,
I'm going to raise Nanna. I'mgoing, I'm going just Frankenstein goes off
and your Yeah, I mean,I need a car battery had some caper

(28:38):
hooking them up to the nipples,just pulling them just below her hit,
just clamping the batteries on. I'mgoing to give Nanna a duck's head because
I face was never that nice.I minded doing that to me. I
mean, I was all right,couldn't. She was an horrible woman.
She used to she used to liein me, and when I very rarely
saw her right with family or cousinor anything. And then one time I

(29:02):
was there with me cousins and shelined but all look, which I thought
was weird. It I must havebeen about twelve thirty. She lines away
and she's going, I love you, I love you, You're my favorite.
I love you gets to me,looks me dead in the eye,
looks at all of the others andwent, yeah what yeah what. I

(29:22):
just stuck there thinking I fucking hatyou are. Yeah, he was just
a grim old woman. He saidthen that when I was eight, she
was trying to get me to smokeand that would never My dad did turn
his back. The rest are probablytaking the restare taking the fags with her,
like but yeah, yeah, yeahyou yeah. So she didn't like
that. That's just was that Manchesteras well, now she was She was

(29:45):
through in Glasgow but lived in Liverpool. So that's another reason why I think
I didn't like it, because itmeant a fucking day out, you know,
a day out to go and sitin this smelly old bungalow with some
woman that don't like me with thestrangest accent in the world. Like glas
we did live in Liverpool. Yeah, well, I think that's why my
voice is where a lot of peoplestruggle to place it in it because I

(30:07):
grew up in Manchester. But mydad's a scout but his mum was glassuaging,
so there, yeah, we gota proper pin on it. Really.
Well, there's there's there's a funnykind of flatness to the man cuning.
There's there's a flat you know,nasally, whereas yours does have this
kind of scouse up. I listenedto accents like a dirty habit. It's

(30:27):
we did on another podcast, myselfand me. We do the we pick
obscure, obscure subjects, you'd actuallyenjoyed obscure subjects and deep dive the fuck
at him, So we did.We ended up having to do a two
parter because we on last season onfred Dibnah. Yeah, it was so
there was so much to talk abouton fred Dibnet. We did the two
parter and the interesting after it wasthat was his favorite line continuously. Apparently

(30:55):
he loved it. But interesting man, but he had that flatness that I
was talking through his nose, whereasyou have that there's an upswing to yours.
It was like, I know wherethat came from. Did they live
in Cork or something or Bristol fora while, but clearly weird sort of
patter from the scouts and it's justsneaks and every know and then it's now
I can do about And I've noteven lived in Manchester for like eight nine

(31:15):
years I've not lost my voice,which is no, no, where you
where are you living? Where areyou being? I lived down in Devin
though. Yeah. Yeah, Iwent to UNI down here and the weather
was nice and I met the girlwas like this is this will do?
They've got loads of rats, soyeah, yeah, yeah it's horrible place.

(31:36):
But to answer your question, wherethey get the rats? And yeah,
pet shops they sell them frozen forsnake food. So obviously being a
perfect but I know how to skinanimals and that we used to get game
people coming in being like, ohthere's a brace, do you mind sorting
that for us? So I'd goand do it right. So yeah,
you're even used to so you wereable to. That's brill because you were

(32:00):
doing that in the butcher sho Yeahyeah, dress and skin so christ Yeah,
I hadn't even considered a pet chapand you had been a butcher because
it was like that looks pretty tidybecause I've seen Because you know, there
was a couple of things I thinkit was on Facebook for years called shit
taxidermy and it would just pop upevery so often brilliantly shit like terrifying.

(32:21):
They would try they would try toput it in the natural pose, like
a fox stalking something. But itjust looked like this. You know,
the fox that spind a bit ofit has had a stroke as well and
was trying to kick kick a fuckinghabit or some start like have you seen
that? The most famous one ofit the walrus that first wallstly stuffed.
They had no creases in it oranything. So it's just like they just

(32:44):
kept pumping over the foot pump becausethey didn't They didn't. The guy didn't
send the drawing back of it outapparently when they first sent one over,
so it didn't think to say,you know, all, this looks like,
you know, an half a usedcondom kind of thing. They just
they just thought it's like some giantslug creature. I got there. I
was privileged, well, I wasdrunk and privileged to see the It was

(33:05):
the last wolf that had lived inIreland. Um. Yeah, it was
from like the early eighteen hundreds,but it was at this stage it was
about the size of an Alsatian vision. I wish it was only a vision.
Although you know what, this particularplace is such a psychedelic experience with
no psychedelics needed. It's a it'sa hotel in Mayo that it will be

(33:27):
again right up your street. Becausethe guy that pass it on to his
son was a fucking lunatic and hisson as a fucking lunatic, like to
the point they it was an oldcastle that he did it up and he
found it. He raised an oldSpanish galleon that had found it like a
ship, and he was supposed togive it to the museum or something.
He went fuck all that, broughtit into what is now the bar and

(33:49):
rebuilt it inside as you know thebar. But at the same time he
has ended his father ended up becomingthe biggest assile collector in the world or
something. But that's in one partof the basement, and the other part
of the basement. He became thebiggest private armory collector in the world as
well. And even the missus wewere on honeymoon because we weren't going abroad,

(34:13):
we just let's just not have togo to the airports, and we
went and just kind of randomly stayand your man took us off steam and
drunk. He went, let's gohave a look at it, and he
allowed us have swords and spears andfucking all sorts. I mean, why
is there a white dog sitting onthe window still kind of what's around with
it? Was that your favorite dogor someone? Because he looked it was
a shit job and he was like, oh no, that's actually the last
wolf, wild wolf of Ireland.He goes he had kind of they were

(34:37):
gone a bit ship look, andI went, yeah, but who's stuff
that? He went off. Theywere stuffing those back in the eighteen hundreds
and that's as good as they coulddo. And it was this poor dog
or wolf. I like the ideathough. It was just a guy breathing
love with thaws and a cat goingaround. They just drive just far enough
that they're not going to cross path. Since I've got the last wolf,
are boys out for a couple ofnights to stay here in a bit of

(34:59):
food and you can have it?To be fair? That was kind of
my nose. I was like,fuck off, wolf, look at the
side tiny And also it's like thelast wolf really just walked in the door.
Gone, that's the lads, We'reclose the door, We're gone.
That's me, I know for thefact, that's the last one. I
would never trust anyone that says anythinglike that. You can't even trust someone

(35:20):
that says, this is me lastsig. You know, this is the
last fucking wolf. You'd never letyou How could you let your guard down
after someone's told you that anyway?You'd be all right to walk home in
the dark tonight because John Alway waskilled, the last one. All of
them are gone. They're all gone. You'd be scared. Collection though,
fossils and an armor you you like? Yeah, I would like he And

(35:43):
actually, as a case in point, Mayo was in this particular we had
only just missed a wedding, hadjust finished the day before or whatever,
and it was the Gallaher, oneof the Gallaghers was there of Oasis because
his family or Mayo people west ofIreland, Mayo people his mother I think,
or whatever. But there was athere was a blowfish is it a

(36:06):
blow pufferfish on a table? Iwent, class, what's that doing on
the table? Is that I wason a table through this function room?
He went, oh, fuck,yeah, it says with a bit of
an issue last night. Um,I think Steve Coogan it was there was
a bunch of these mad, madjokes hanging out of the ceiland that his
father had just collected through the yearsin this function room. So there were

(36:27):
lots and lots of fucking puffer fishand just like shark's faces and stuff like
that, just hanging it, notjaws, but like their faces hanging out
of the ceiling. And the boysdecided to jump up on one of the
other shoulders and pulling the pufferfish outof the ceiling and they wrestled it back
and left and on the table.So that's this is actually to say that
this hotel is up your road isan understatement. There's there's a weird pub,

(36:51):
the smallest pub in England that's supposedto have loads of maud ship and
I've had pictures off of people inthere because people have left bits of mine
in there. No, just toadd to it, there's like half of
a mouse and that magnetized on anelmet in there, bits like that,
which I think people would There wasa phase where people would go in there
be like, oh, my,where's that bit from? Where's that bit

(37:12):
from? And then the people inthere showing like my half of a mouse
from when he used to make earrings, and they'd be like oh,
and then they'd buy something and thenorder it to their and it get added
to their not and then it getsgiven to people and stuff. It fucking
But I've never been that's like,it's mad. It's I like, I
like people that like things in it. Yeah, I find that fascinating me

(37:32):
because, yeah, I want toknow why that person's obsessed with that thing
they're obsessed with, and is itjust like like personally for me, when
I get obsessed with something, Idon't have any sort of swaying it.
So I got obsessed with chickens andnow I'm obsessed with saxodermy. When I
was a kid who was obsessed withPokmon and it just one day, you

(37:52):
just wake up and you're like,oh, does nothing for me anymore?
And then there might not be anythingfor a while. But then you get
some people who were just into somethingfor the rest of their lives and that's
their thing, And I find thatfucking weird. Yeah. I like watching
people like that in it, andI like finding them sort of people online
with the niche YouTube channels who werelike, oh and a bit weird shit

(38:15):
and bit shoot where they you know, they they'll link everything back to this
one thing they're obsessed with. Therewas a guy I used to listen to
every day who used to he wasobsessed with the mud flood for like a
year, and I'd listened to himtalk about that every day and then and
then it just overnight, just likethat, like a light switch. It
was Jematria. Everything, everything wasGematri, and everything was linking back to

(38:36):
the number forty two. And Iwas like, this is fucking mint me,
this mad. It's just and Ifind that. I just find that
fascinating in it. So I wantto know did something happen to that fellow
with the fossils where he was like, fucking hell, if I'd had an
ammonite that day, they saved her? Or yeah, I mean that will
pay make more sense with the armorystuff. But you know what I mean,
there's got to be something in therethat's that's twigged that, and I

(39:00):
like trying to imagine, you knowwhat that might have been. I get
it, Yeah, because there wasin that notion you're kind of gone.
You could say, Okay, wellI just out of competitiveness, I want
the biggest. But that couldn't driveyou going to quarries and shit like that.
I couldn't drive you. Sure,it couldn't be for so long.
Yeah, because you've got to knowafter a certain point, Yeah, I've
got more than anyone else. AndI suppose I imagine that was easier.

(39:21):
Did you say the seventeen hundreds eighteenhundreds? Yeah, yeah, Yeah,
that's got to have been a loteasier to at least make people believe you've
got the biggest collection of southing.I mean, island's not that big either,
and I imagine it was hard toget around if there was still wolves
knocking about as well, so they'vegot to be you know, I've got
the biggest collection in the air ofyou. That'll do me. No one's
to spas No. Your man pushedon. He didn't care you, he

(39:45):
did he even remember the guy wastelling us that, like his dad,
just to drag the whole family toquarries, just looking for any sort of
fossils at all. It was like, what the fuck the obsession to But
even to turn this castle around likehe showed us, because there was a
proper shitt he one day they gottheir hands on it and he made this
unbelievable hotel out of it. You'reall right, I probably would have gotten

(40:07):
to a certain point when Okay,on to the next thing. But this
guy, no, he stuck itout. That's mad. Imagine having that
sort of ambition and motivation and justtoo. I can't stick at anything me.
Like, I just start new stuff. I'm like, oh, this,
this is the this is the thingI like now and then it's like

(40:27):
spinning loads of plates in it.But if I'd love to be able to
just be this is me fucking castleand I'm gonna maybe maybe that's what but
maybe it needs to be as epicas a castle for you, you know
they kind of wait, well,I just mean it like you know,
yeah, I guess yeah, yeah, big metaphorically to put your life into.
Yeah, you have to, likeif you pack yourself into a course,
bought it, yeah, yeah,you have probably like fucking paid yourself

(40:50):
into the corn and you fuck this. So what idiot would buy this?
You and the family living in thefucking Volvo, I'd said, the front
gone, all right, I supposewe better get a fucking roof on this
thing, clapped it with a bitof feather board. Yeah, I've been
there, I've been there, butthere they I suppose you actually you know

(41:12):
what I'm gonna send you you'd enjoyedthe Fred dibnebs because he that man had
no business having a wife for kids. He wasn't a badman at all.
He was just a mentalist, ashit husband, but he was just terrible.
He was like, can we goto France? France? Maybe on
holiday? I don't want to saythat happening. I've just bought a new
steam engine. It was like,ah, fucking hell, Fred, you're

(41:36):
fuck's sake. You couldn't even lookat the faces of your kids who wanted
to just go to the seaside andyou're like, yeah, we can take
steam engine. He was like,Fuck's sake, Fred, steam engine and
will be there in four months time. The sea will be seeing them driving
around. They used to drive acrossthe shop and fucking everyone. I'ming the
horn behind him because I go intoone of them conventions. But before it'd

(41:59):
be a battles, just because heused to fucking shuttle up them chimneys,
mate, just hammering away at himwith no cables. The wife had just
been you know, tendaks and youknow what, fucking all. Today he's
gonna die. But I suppose maybeshe was going today he's gonna die to
go to France money from the TVshows as well. It all becomes yeah,

(42:20):
yeah, it was. I don'tthink that that's was I think it
was just the fact and he wasso vacant. Even if he was on
you know, on the property,he was like, all right, that's
dinner. We're gonna watching the Telly. Yeah fine, I'm not. I'm
out of the shed every day everyfucking Oh you're gonna blows up up tomorrow,
friend, I am, and thefucking next day as well, and

(42:43):
the next day after that. Itwill not be doing anything with you people.
This is my passion. Yeah,that's mint doing it. That's what
I mean to have that like tobe it just I mean, I'm not
saying I want to be able toneglect me loved ones. But if that's
if that's the price you have topay for happiness, that's sorry in it
when it could be the only thingthat we look at all these you know,

(43:05):
these super famous people. Some people, okay, fall into things lucky
wise, you know what I mean. They're so affable, Like in all
fairness, your your your collection andthe way you present all your the products
you're making that by the way,Jack is an unbelievable shop. You can
buy all the fuzzy danglers and thehairy danglars, hairy danglars and sausage meny.
It was the fucking sausage man.Therey sent me over the edge.

(43:27):
It was like one but the itwas the mirror of It was the insanity
mirror with a bit of duckling skinnyshot calm you down. And then you
know what. There's moments when I'vebeen about to walk on stage and in
different environments where you're like, yeah, I could do with an in salenty
mirror or something that would be Idon't know, would like the the best

(43:50):
technique I've ever found. If itwas a big state, you know,
a big room or whatever's just tosit down, a cup of tea settles
me down, I'll walk out intowar. That could be much more.
Would but I often wonder what,you know, you'd hear some people having
superstitious things that they'd have their theirthink they would have to have their thing
to came. I'm down, andI wonder would and in insanity mirror,
just a little bit open the mirror, it'll take it be fucking good for

(44:13):
business for me. If a bigcomment. If a big comic could take
it up, wasn't it. Ohwe do that, you know we should
get it to a sports star andget him to just just just for Wimbledon
as well. Could have had oneof them. Yeah, just before I
go out, he's he looks socalm, he's I've never seen him on
the court, looks so calm.Tell us rafa na, what is your

(44:35):
secret? And all of a suddenhe has your accent, just freaks everybody
out, just like that Duco cupboard, then goes back to his own accent.
He can say say that again forus see insanity mirror, okay,
as this man having a stroke,he's speaking with a completely different accents by

(44:58):
that woman that woke up Chinese.That blows my mind. Jesus Christ.
There's and there's been a few Americansthat have woken up with Irish accents.
And what is I mean? Idon't know why, don't like there's no
way, like nobody has asked Chinesepeople as this woman actually speaking Chinese like
they like because as soon as it'san American doing a terrible Irish accent like

(45:21):
they all do in all movies,like so she's just tap at the morning
to you, I feel totally irishafter forty days in the coma. You're
like, well, I'd go backin if I were you, because you're
not quite there. Yeah, quitethere. You're a bit longer. You
might be all I'd like to knowthough. Yeah. But the Chinese is
she just you know, going therelike shouting ying ping and not just in
a bit of a twang. Andyou're like, oh, all these Chinese

(45:43):
people, just everyone she kind ofnot speak Chinese, just look in each
other out the side of the eye, just being like, oh, this
is because that's the thing we neverhear, you know, we never hear
from you know, they we neverheard the point of view from so many
other countries. And that's why,like it interests me have a couple of
me to live in parts of Africa, like, and they put up the

(46:05):
videos and they're like, oh,I did not you know, this is
why travel is good. They don'tThey don't think like we do at all,
and nor do they give one funkabout anything we do. You need
only go to France to realize,Oh, if the French don't bend to
anybody at all, I see theydon't even like themselves no, I don't
think you get that impression from him, and sorry, that's I was good.

(46:30):
I was going to say, withthe with the Asians, with Japanese
people, and everyone says they're twofaced, but I did. That's that's
what was daughter about it. Theywere all really nice to me, So
he's kind of don't care if theytwo faced, because you also can't understand
them when they're speaking about you behindyour back, So you you didn't.
I didn't. Really. It wasone of the nicest places I think I've
been because you can't even I can'tread body language all that well anyway in

(46:51):
it, So I was living inlike a little fantasy world, you know,
just watching these people. They looklike the smiling and and you're like,
salon, Yeah, and you gotwhat you needed from the situation.
Nice people. Yeah, why doyou get any deeper actually thinking, Yeah,
that's fine by me. I've gotme and me a little mirror antickuling

(47:12):
it on the end. Yeah,got me searched at customs, but you
know, fucking I would love tosee the explanation for that customs like it'd
be good on that one, whetherthey're in Australia, won't it tying age
people trying to bring in dried frogsand mushrooms and they're like, oh,
and I'm behind them in the queueand just they're just waving me through,

(47:34):
like it'll be fine. Stop thempaired or look at them. I did.
I did see it one time.I did stop this Asian woman,
of course, and she had insideher jacket sheet a bag I've dried duck
vaginas. And I'm thinking, rightat the time, I'm going, that's
mental because she was like, oh, the medicinal. It's like, yeah,
but okay, fair enough, themedicinal. But if genuinely, if

(47:57):
they stopped you, you can go. Just check out me, TikTok.
Just have a look at me,TikTok. Next project, lads. And
then I get fined for turns.They think I've turned up there for business.
I've not got the right visa,so I guess it worse than the
tie when he is I don't evenknow what you would do with duck v
giants. I once cut through whatfoxes V giant there and it's stamped the
building up for days. They've gotlike cent glands near there. That's right,

(48:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Ididn't. I didn't know exactly where
they were. I thought they'd bemore in but they're actually quite if you
imagine like where But I'm not goingto get me belly button out for it.
But you've got your own, Iassume. Do you imagine where that
is? It's like they're in aline. Yeah, obviously on the male
like that's kind of where the dickis. But it was a female one,
and it was quite confident it wasa female once it didn't have balls,

(48:42):
so I thought, this will befine. Just cut along gear,
get a nice seam up the belly. Hey, in today's in today's current
claimer, jack, you you cannotassume you can't call you can't just call
them the vixen? Can you know? Could be identifying as as a dog
fox? You know? I hadto think as well about that. What
was the male One's why I didn'tgo for it? Isn't a dog?
I don't know, I don't knowI did. It sounds about right,

(49:06):
don't it. It was well,the first couple of weeks we were back
living in the countryside. Well,my wife is from a very very nice
part of Dublin, but she wasit was this screaming coming across the Glenn
from us, like, what infox's name is that? I was like,
Oh, that's just a really randyfox. No, nothing sounds like
that in nature, and you're goingto hear that over the next couple of

(49:28):
weeks. That's that's just a foxwho wants there were a good rattle,
Like that's all. That's all itis, Like that's what they old folklore
shit about band cheese and stuff likethat, and oh it is. Yeah,
yeah, well we we just recordedanother episode myself and McBride. There's
a there's a great word called pishoaks and it's there again. This is

(49:50):
right up your street. It's there'sthere's like malevolent fairies a lot of people
would have in a generation and yeah, narration or two previous maybe they would.
There'll be a lot of people wouldwhen all right, I don't know
if I believe in it, butI ain't crossing it. So we kind
of presented it as if we wedeeply believed all this shit, like because

(50:13):
why would we be why you goagainst it? Like everybody else would go
yeah, a load of ship.We were like, this is what's happening
to people. Get your shit togetherright now. If you have if you
throw you know, water out thedoor or wish out first might a fairy
in the head, just saying,just saying. Also, Jack, if
you on May Eve, if youfind a rotten eggs they eat the eve

(50:35):
before, the night before. Itturns me. If you find a rotten
egg anyone in your property, you'refucking mate, You're done. Somebody somebody,
yeah, somebody another another landowner haseither someone basically fay folk on you,
and nothing but bad shit has happened. But here's one you probably won't
ever come across. The rotten egg. But if you ever see a whistling

(50:58):
woman first thing in the morning,if you're heading out to do but work,
go home, you're fucked. Theday is ruined. Never can't be
happy happy women about enough, youknow on whistles when they're sad that it
and them happy women, they're onlyup to trouble, you know, especially
early in the morning as well.I don't want to know she's had a
good night. No, I've neverI've never had one walk away from you,

(51:19):
like shotting the door on him,and that they just they mope away
into the taxi. You want oneskipping down the road whistling whistling she's coming
back tomorrow. Fucking I'm getting agood review and yelp over that one.
Yeah, but yeah, there's um, there's there's the fay folk. But

(51:40):
that was what they recommend. Now, I've heard different people argue that it's
um, it's kind of a possessionof somebody who has died. It's a
continuous person. So say you sayyou died, but somebody and your funeral
is about to happen, and somebodydidn't wear an item of your clothing on
your behalf to the funeral. Therewas a scarf for yours. I'm not
suggesting you wear scarves because that's abig statement. Yeah, but I'm not

(52:05):
putting out there no, hey,I'm not. I'm just this is metaphorically
speaking scarves. I don't want anybodyto just immediately assume Jack with scarves.
But if you did, if theydidn't wear to your funeral, that you
trapped in another world and you becomea banshee essentially, because you're not allowed
to cross over yet. Use havea few things though, though, and
use about left and not over there. We don't really that from what I

(52:27):
know about. If you want touse culture and history, we don't have
that much. Apart from most funerals, you're probably going to have all at
least see people have a scrap,that's about it. Use have the whole
bonies covered mirrors and not dad.They used to years ago. But again
it's becoming quite like the UK inAmerica. It's kind of washing out a
fair bit, like you know thatkind of waves. If I say,

(52:50):
even years ago, I don't evenremember that, but I've heard of things
to that extent um. But it'sjust getting washed out with Western izes,
which is like, you know,whereas it's fun to have traditions of some
sort, like you want something,you're like, I don't because I can't
think of any for us. WhenI was a kid, the New Year's
Eve, even as I got older, to be fair, if I was

(53:12):
there, my dad used to makeme walk around the house from the back
door to the front door with aslice of bread, anful of sault and
a piece of cold at midnight.That's a very That's a very Irish thing
to do, is it. Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, for
sure. I mean there has tobe Irish somewhere with a name like the
like like yours. Yeah, therehas to be Irish somewhere there. I
never knew where it cad as Igot older, I just thought it was

(53:34):
so he could kiss me mum withoutme seeing this kicks me out away for
a couple of minutes in it I'dprobably just get distracted in the garden anyway,
you know, to see something else. Oh you know what he's like,
given three random things and he willbe back for an hour. Come
on, we got two minutes,you know, a slice of bread,
something cold? Yeah, look,whatever, whatever you got, just putting

(53:54):
in that kid's hands, you know, remember, shits, it's got to
be the same every year. Righthere down in the back of the cow
into they got the new calendar forthat Christmas justly just far up Jack's shit.
Yeah yeah, get that together becauseyeah, when I supposable barbecue give
us that, I thought they wereillegal. Yeah they were illegal, but

(54:15):
about ten last year. So wecan keep the ship going the like light
bulbs. We've still got the goodones, yeah, the good ones.
Yeah. Yeah, I've taken upenough of your time. I haven't even
gotten to any of the things.But I don't want to to keep you
on me. I don't care ifyou want to get through him. Honestly,
I'm not asked. It's um.But if you want to get if

(54:37):
if we're done, we're done.No, no, no, do you
know what I like it? Ilike the organic vibe rather than right Jack,
now that I haven't fucked that.I don't ever do that anyway,
but I had just do you know, because it rarely do you have to
hit anybody. Because I knew therewas a good, good banter out there
anyway regardless, but rarely do youhave to do I don't like this to
my own ill ill fate. Idon't do a podcast how you're supposed to

(55:00):
do it. I do it.I kind of back the chat, you
know what I mean, and ifwe'll get good cracks somewhere in it.
But other people do it like amagazine where going Okay, now Jack,
we're onto that. This is thequestion question. We're onto this. Let's
spin the wheel of where Jack,you know, thanks sir, s and
I find the people that have beenlistening for the last couple of years ago.

(55:22):
I love listening in because it doesn'tjar with you or great. We're
onto that bit where he asks Jack, you know what's the biggest not you've
ever found? You know, not. I've enjoyed it anyway, you know,
I'm yeah, so we gotta bringyou. I gotta show you the
new place you're going to, Likethere's no end. We Oh yeah,

(55:42):
we found a grass a grasshopper.I haven't seen a grasshopper since I was
about five. It was fucking huge, this thing. It landed on the
missus leg. We're up to thenew place or whatever. Fuck too.
Like I know, we're like youmake with your taxi ormy. You it's
almost like you're exhibiting animals to thebest ability in the way. But to

(56:04):
watch this ship and think jump atleast eight feet in the blink of an
eye, it immediately made me went, oh, we're kind of shit.
That thing just jumped one hundred andfifty times its own body in under the
speed of a light. Yeah,but you could flick it in the back
of He didn't kill it. That'sthe only thing much to be scared.
That was a valid point you madethere, But I just in immediately my

(56:24):
notion I went, got it.Love legs like his, Oh yeah,
yeah, you know, spiky andnot as well. Oh, I'd always
be showing them off. Spiky legsme look at he eased me like a
lizards me. Look at that.I fucking loved that. I'm like a
fucking toad trousers. Have you notseen its fucking legs? Which does you

(56:47):
work out? No? No,he's just like part frockman before me.
I fucking love it. Where ifcrickets were like the size of dogs though,
and all that kind of what gotme going. I was like,
I wish he was a bit biggerbecause we could maybe train it, because
I could definitely find a use forhim. Just hey, you wouldn't go
up to the fucking gate, wouldyou? Because it's pissing out and it's

(57:10):
like fucking sixty feet away? Wouldyou? Would you? Would you jump
to the gate from me and jumpright back? Because I think you know
to be there in half the time? Wunning. That's what I meant of
size. He's covering sixty feet ifhe's the size of the like a rot,
wilt. Yeah, So like beforeyou even think you're the Amazon,
have just fucked that box. Isaid, the gate and I don't want
to get drenched? Would you?Would you hop out and get no worries
in your cricket voice and back littlemagnet on the cricket and just he's even

(57:37):
got you know, he's got sixhands, man, he doesn't he's at
the front and just wad he justjumps a little bit shorter of a distance
exactly. And you have a podcastas well. If you listen to your
podcast, it's yeah, I gottwo got world around used podcasting, truth
seeking, truth seeking. Yeah,because I was kind of dipped back and
forth between the two. There wasI was listening to zombies this morning.

(58:00):
Yeah, it was exactly what Ihoped it would be. Rand of the
ramblings of a madman. Someone describedas it's from when I had a radio
show, So they're all from afew years ago. So I've learned more
since then then sort of suppose disregardedsome of the stuff I believe, but
I'm still very confident that like theFair of the Grays and the Grays of

(58:20):
the extra dimensional entities, everything feedsback to them. Me. I've fucking
like, I've been watching X Filesrecently in it and I found it well
relaxing because I'm watching that and I'mnot seeing hidden messages in it because it's
all there, like yeah, onthe screen. It's so relaxing. One
because everything I could probably sit downand watching episode of m Dale and think
it would be about monsters. Ithink. I just think there's hidden messages

(58:44):
in it, and I'm like,oh, this is about such a such
and you know, I was goingto suggest another podcast, but this was
going it would bend your brain andhalf it was a friend of a friend
of mine. God, those conspiracyguys. Oh yeah, I've listened.
I've listened to me. Yeah,I've had a couple with him, like
what I do probably three or fourepisodes every season with him. Now,
I ruin it far deep. Didyou know this used to be book shot?

(59:07):
And yeah, it used to bebookshot, but everybody kept in calling
the Tama Manny show. So itwas like, for Folk's sake, it
is pointless. It is I guessexactly. Um, I've heard your voice
and it was oh you definitely hadyeah, yeah, yeah, so we
did. Yeah, but I ruineverything with Dick jokes. I just can't.

(59:27):
We'll be going deep into like theOklahomabamba and I'll find the way crowbaring
in something penile, There'll be somethingPeen Island. There there was we did,
we did an episode. I justcan't help it. It's it's it's
it wrecks itself into the scenario andI can't easy. Potentially it takes a
little bit people that died. Youknow, well we did, we don't.

(59:51):
We did a true crime one onDennis Nielsen, the Scottish guy that
I've got. I remember one ofthe facts that you gave from now.
I was watching the David Tennants.We used to he used to get his
bomb all out and get over theedge of the bed so people could bum
him in the night, and thathe was open that would happen, And
she's like, they're not going totalk about that in this job. They're

(01:00:12):
not going to bring that up inthis like meaning you know the TV show
though, yeah, David Senant,I was good that that wasn't a part
of it. Amazing in the Ibet Tennant had that his stage and had
that written in. It's probably specific. He will never hang his hole off
the edge of a bed, likeit's just you will never small with doctor
who. You can't have him dothat fucking exhaust pipe hanging off the edge
of a bed just hoping to getbumped, Are you fucking animals? He

(01:00:32):
will never get another gig. Hemight get then next James Bond, don't
fuck it for him, like butbe awful. Apparently though some keen eared
person reckoned, we referenced dicks someludic I don't know how true it is,
but in the four or five hourswe did some through hiller By like
they're recking four hundred and eleven timesbuck. Yeah, But to be fair,

(01:00:57):
Dennis was bumbling a lot of peoplelike and getting oh yeah, so
you know it decided to bring itup with then fits into that more than
it fits into the Oklahoma right enough? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that
was tim one at the Oklahoma Citybombings. Yeah, and what was the
other one? People didn't get angryat me, but when they kind of
did a bit, it was Israel. What was your man's fucking name?

(01:01:19):
He was Keys, Israel Keys.Because I pulled Did you listen to that?
One? Probably would be a while, but Gordo, Gordo, he
was just kind of took the headphonesoff and walked out of the room because
when we got to the very endevent, it's full of shit. What
do you mean, He's full ofshit? And then I broke it all
the way backwards. Oh my god, This one was a complete fucking Walter
Mitty. He was full of shit, and that was the one one that

(01:01:42):
now loads of people are really nice, but they're like, why the fuck
did you ruin an episode from You'reright, but you fucking ruined the episode
is that that happens and people getoh, very defensive. It's funny.
It's in fairness, I think.Also they don't want they don't go too
hard at me because they know I'ma fucking dick joke merchant. Like but
in Gordo, I mean, he'sgot people that would tattoo. They would

(01:02:06):
tattoo their face for him, like, oh, like on a level that
you cannot even fucking grasp jack,Like it's like last minute phenomenal, like
like he would never have to rentagain in the world. They would just
people would just keep on putting himup in his in their houses like they
fucking love him. When he saidhimself, just every one of them,

(01:02:31):
I would wake up with a penison my lips everyone, everyone, everyone.
It wouldn't. It wouldn't because wedid we did a what's them Rasputin
now? In fairness, Rasputin wassaid supposed to have a thirteen inch knob
needs supposed to be in a jarsomewhere in it, something in a museum
supposed would supposedly, but we kindof went digging and it would seem no,

(01:02:53):
it would seem no it was.Yeah, they were claiming it was.
But it's like, that's not evena dick. But I mean,
you'd know if you looked at it, you go not han't it. I've
seen enough penile things and albeit ondead animals, but you know, get
it all out there. Oh fuckingclass. Listen. I've got to put

(01:03:15):
a link to your website in theshow notes as well, so people can
go have a immerse themselves and worldaround you and see what exactly what I'm
talking about. But Jack, thishas been an absolute joy. Thanks a
william Man, Thanks for us,Thanks a million, Jack, Class Class.
Have a look on the show notesso you can find Jack's link to

(01:03:36):
all his unbelievably funny videos and itsproducts that will absolutely blow your mind.
Oh that was fun. We'll dothat again. We will do it again.
We'll We'll go back and forth forsure. This is going to be
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(01:04:21):
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(01:04:41):
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