270 - Luke Keeler

It fills my heart with joy to rejoin my old mate, professional boxer Luke 'Cool Hand" Keeler on this episode as he gets set to make his return to the squared circle after a 3 year sabbatical

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Episode Transcript

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I'm sloping tea here as well.Very unprofessional, but anyway, moving
on to today's guest. He isthe returning, defending undisputed Luke Keeler.
He's one of my very good friendsfrom the boxing world and he's making a
comeback. He's making a comeback.I'm so excited about this. He's making

(02:31):
a comeback. One of the nicestchemist, well bred men you'll ever meet.
Put an absolute assassin in the ring. Sit back and enjoy the fantastic
Luke Keeler, the cool hands,the cool hands of Lucas back he backs
your third time back on the backof the podcast. Is that running?
Yeah? Yeah, I thought itwas one. That's how many thoughts that

(02:53):
got punched in the head, youknow, because you're have you gone back
into engineering again? You're back onsites. I was back on site the
past year, yeah, coming upto a year ten months now. Yeah,
So back around commercial sides a downtown. So we're on back boxing

(03:13):
now as you as you're saying youhave me on you know, so you
know, well I don't want thatto be the only excuse. But I
still often think like going back intothe because the buildings for me were always
it was all of its kind ofa matchup kind of place, you know,
the kind of way like where you'rewalking around, you're you're stiff.
Funny you say that I'll put across. But I was honest site and I

(03:36):
was just walking around. But whenwe laptop and it's scaffolder. Actually I
went past and I gat it wasa year the scaffold probably see this podcast.
But he started rowing and showing Imean, so I told fuck off,
you know what I mean? Yeah, weird enough, ye, and
there's been a rawn and showing thevillain and saying yourself quarter. I was

(04:00):
closed to have an excellent scrap onthe long ago. It was always going
to be a scaffler. You didn'teven have to tell me even how to
tell me the trade line. Yeah. Yes, they're like these angry jockeys,
aren't they Like they're just these angrywiry jockeys. Yeah yeah, yeah,
taking of flopes now as well.So probably just as well, would

(04:23):
you go away like this? That'swhat I was getting, like the fake
proveddo that blokes have on site,like strutting around and then I boast a
head of and on and then youround the corner with your laptop. Gone,
hi, guys, so what I'dlike you to do? And you
go yes, of course, misterKeeler. Absolutely. They just look and
the cross and he had left thesy I went the cross was two of

(04:43):
scafflers and they had recognized me.I don't know where they said it,
homar. He just had to goto a different side. Bo he was
in the hood. It's funny.It's funny. That's when you know you
carry power, is when you justget shifted to another side because like listen,
it's better for your health on thisbecause scaffolders all think they're savages.
Well they a lot of are savages. But at the same time, like

(05:04):
let's get real. You know Ialready get it was in the center of
town and I'm going to be gettingarrested fucking hinting someone hey with a promote
the next fights savage kilnsabolic s outof a scaffolder. Yeah, yeah,
I'll go and I'm back here.I'm back full time the last couple of

(05:27):
weeks. So the old body sawget back into a bow, scored scored,
sco for ahead, you know,the training, So I'm happy.
I wonder about that all right,Like because let's say the guts of three,
like, did you go that's itnow, belly on, open up
the belt, let the belly out. Three years eating what I want,
I might go back to box inthe suns because I never believed that you

(05:48):
retired retired because you kind of itwas what did they call like a soft
eggit. Businesses would call it asoft a soft exit or a soft entering
or whatever, but you kind ofyou never you just went all right,
we'll pause it there. And thenthe world came to grinding halls, which
it but like, yeah, sothat took COVID obviously happened, and we
probably lost a year there shows behinddoors, I was tipping away training and

(06:13):
then like just lives getting the way. I had a new baby boy easy
year. Yeah, and I movedhouse. I'm living them an art side
and now yeah yeah because zero you'rekind of westy though as well. They
aren't best buddy firm me. Yeah, and then I'm living in a glass
never now so a moved house,done the house up for about a year

(06:38):
and had had the baby and thenjust things getting the way and don't be
like there was no real good offersand a point of last interest and it
was actually I was, I wassaying, I was actually had an interview
with a yesterday, but I said, like it was actually thinking of writing
out the posts generally you were saying, quietly said some assembler purple post to
say I'm finished. And then itwas actually mcallaney Promotions, who's running the

(07:02):
show and in the audies with Conlinor he was forced planning to run a
show with Lucan on in his land, like on his in his home,
so he's a fine house. Theback rolls in Lucan, so he kind
of it was came about that way. There was talk of that fight,
a fight on that and then Ijust said, then it didn't happen to

(07:26):
Luke and the dates obviously later onin the year, so it's the audience
now. But that's kind of theysaid, he gave me a fight at
warm with fight and then maybe anIrish, big Irish voice, so it
was kind of like it a pathwayhe put there and I said, I
can't commit that, and I'll goback to trying to see how i feel.
But I'm backsparre and I'm feeling gold, so that might be a couple

(07:48):
left in me, you know,So like how did they did they ring
you like out of the blue orwas it just an email in or what
did you put the flag up?Yeah? I know Stephen and go in
the gym. Butch as well wasdealing with them and deals with Connor boxing
and they treat him are going upontogether a show and he asked myself,

(08:09):
so they're still thinking of the oldman. The old man there, so
there was there was a bit ofinterest. So I said, I'll fight
obviously, get a warm with FightForced and then then go again. But
MC and Any Promotions are planning onrunning another couple of shows and then the
big show on Dukean on his ownland next year. I love that.
I love that, Yes, puttingon his own lengths, yes, yeah,

(08:31):
But the plans for his amazing he'she was getting music, acts,
all fuel trucks like it was goingto be a huge event. It was
like I think it was for eightand one thousand people. The show he's
making a festival out of a topbasic the headline erect will be boxing entertainment

(08:52):
then boxing, like he's going tostart the show where they have the boxing
and have music there as well.So it was good. That's unreal,
but it looks like but you're you'regoing to go to the d I love
that like a lad just because yeah, I got to take a couple of
years off and then back to theRDS e's and then like the last event
there was Barty mcwigan. There's aBretty history there that's class so it's not

(09:16):
used to be. It's not usedto be to be tall, but a
like the interest is shie which forit I think there was. It was
starved the boxing and okay, youcame back with the shield. There was
more interest for this foight was forgottenabout for the three years, but more
messages and interest for this fight thanany of previous ones in Belfast and stuff.
So I think there's a bit ofa bows building about the boxing again,

(09:39):
you know, so touch would Ithink also we haven't had boxing in
a long boxing to get get behindit a long time, like because every
other sport is kind of I wouldn'tsay, run its course, but we're
kind of you know, Jay Hurlingand and everything else in the football and
the rugby, and we're like,okay, all right, and there's only
so much you can take of allthis stuff and ran down your neck.

(10:00):
Nobody's been properly talking like MMA prettymuch as it's stuck in everybody's head.
Everybody's nearly gone sick of MMA atthis stage. So the idea that boxing
is coming back, and there's nothinglike nostalgia, do you know what I
mean? And you like you alreadyhave a great record, so I mean,
I was given on your last fightwhich didn't really look like you,
and it didn't look like you fromfrom the fights I've seen before. I

(10:22):
don't I'd be interested in your opinionon it, Like did it when you
watch the back of You're going,who the fuck is this guy? Now?
I want to know what. Iwas quite early and I was a
big step up with class box.I boxed there like he's double world champion,
the guy so and I was quiteearlier and in the hot top Poland
and didn't even like I can't rememberthe start of the fight, you know

(10:43):
that kind of way, So itwasn't That's what I said. I kind
of was disappointed in that performance andsaid I'd like to go out on a
bit of a whole or even justproved that it was better than that last
performance. Still a bit of alegal dated over that. So it's each
time they're just the reassessed things andlook back on things. But I'm kind

(11:05):
of a lot clearer on my headto train and yeah, be boxing,
and I'm kind of like a coupleof years out. I'm probably talking showing
now, but a couple of yearsout probably did me a bit of good,
you know, kind of the way, because I was just going to
the motions. It was three yearsProul flat out training every day, and
then near the end it was kindof born down on just going to the
motions, and then a couple ofyears off but on a few pounds and

(11:30):
the like. Even at that Iwent back spiring with the the lads who
are flat out the last three years, and I've been competing with them.
Youre not kind of way, SoI was surprised. I was expecting to
be a lot worse. But thebit of fitness is like the bit of
time, and it's coming back andI'm not as bad as they caught,
you know, so touch what ofa couple of good wins left me?

(11:52):
Whist? I suppose you have theyou have a pathway built out in your
head anyway, like as a smartfighter, Like you're like, it's not
like me given to go, youknow what I mean? And granted there
would be a hint of rust,maybe not as much at all, but
at the same time, you're like, all right, I know the progress
here. Day by day, Iknow where the progress is, and that'll
be a little touch of encouragement everyday. Like, oh no, it'd
be probably six months take care oftraining full time to get back to where

(12:18):
it was in terms of like justfitness and like to be peaking, and
you need a couple of fights toget ring rusted and TI him and back
like it might sparwell with actual fightsand going through that process. So we
probably need this fight an eight rounder, and then a couple of bas like
then a couple of big fights.It will be six months until I'm back

(12:39):
to the level where I wanted tobe. I imagine, you know,
for six months of training twice backto for a couple of weeks or just
one session to day six days willbe two sessions next week, so I'm
back in physiot, like I'll haveto just put the body through the mill
again. You know, I wasjust thinking that, Like, I mean,
I gone back to play rugby acouple of times. Like and the

(13:03):
sting is that first thing where youcat you catch a hip to the chin
or something like that. You're like, oh fuck, I forgot about this.
Yeah, buddy gets hard and likewe gotta it's shot in the ribs
there last week and I still bruisedand I never had that like that,
right, probably bruist and saw andeven the shots to the face and the
bruised and then they yeah, youactually get accustomed again punches. I think

(13:26):
your body hards. So I'm abit softer. I'm a bit soft.
We're like getting on a few weeksto be already. He's got because I
noticed your hands are after taking itup nicely as well, from like would
they would they have stayed like thator they nice and getting nice? What
its just it's just sarnest in yourhands come back as well, Like it's

(13:48):
it's the whole body saw backs areribs or hands or so not like it's
it's just gone through the mill again. You're not a kind of way,
We're a sure else would you bedoing? And where are you? Where
are you back training? Now you'reback in is a centurion again the Colosseum
with Colosseum away. We have agood crew Toyron McKenna's headline in the fight

(14:13):
and Sending. Kelly's on the cardand also Paul Ryan, So Paul Ryan
is a middleway you up and comingcouplet Sending. Kelly's a wealth away and
Tyrone's a wealth away. So thefour of us are on the same card.
So there's a post back in thegym. It's good to be back
down. They're all slagging me forbeing the old man and wherever else.

(14:35):
There's a good post back in thegym now, you know coming back in
you'd miss it. That's the greatthing about like boxing, Like you can
give each other ship and all therest of you give each other ship in
the office on site and nothing comesof it. You'll go ahead fucking or
whatever you can literally getting knock thepolixide of each other. So there was
healthiest man, healthy fucking things todo. Ever, Yeah, there's a

(14:56):
goy that's helpless Screamer is his name, So he's the number two. Dream
was the nickname Stephen Marv. Buthe boxed a bit and he trains the
trains with us, and he's feellike, you know, trying the last
three years by always still always likesay, it's still baity, you know,
it's still bait. So we're onschool sparred and he's showing his hardest

(15:20):
and I just still have rather shoutout to him. So can still break
a book? You know? Willwill you come back in the same way
to reckon the same weight class?No, I'm making it. I'll probably
do super middle the next division.Well, i'll see how the body is
the way it's coming down. Well, but like I said, with the
one four at a time and fortyweeks, i'll see how it goes.

(15:43):
And we have to go to supermiddle. I'm not going to kill myself,
you know. Oh yeah, what'sthe what was day one where you
like, right, that's the chocolateand Christmas gone? Are you like,
did you tailor down or are youjust like straight on to avocados and what's
the crack? Well, it's onlyas soon as you have a fight.
They if you don't have a fight, they you just slip. Yeah yeah,

(16:07):
but as soon as I got thefight day, everything is cut out,
even like I went from the fieldday with the missus after walk and
like I just healthy fold against thatkind of way everything is. I'll be
back on a meal plan and whereeverything is cut out straight away once ide
the day a couple of weeks ago, and the bit away came down because
it did open way. I probablywent touching ninety kilos, you know,

(16:29):
and seventy two is the middleweight limit, right, so well I would have
been around say eighty two walking aroundand you bring the tank kilos down and
now one kind of think I'm avery way eighty foive now, so I
didn't go too much. I camedown so far or foive, but still
a good bit to loos. Youknow, there's lads, listen to this
gint with you ever fuck I putninety kilos on the weekend and goal with

(16:56):
Sparren, I sell it today hewas one hundred and foy los Jesus big
lump. Yeah, so you getused to smacks again, Christ just like
going gunning with a couple of sledgeammers, like and yeah, yeah, he's
helping in the gym as well.He was. He's a bit of older
now so was he the mill.But he's a big punch at one hundred

(17:17):
and five kilos. He's he's helpingin the gym with Pete as well,
and the sparred with rust and stufffor a Polish guy, Polish amateur.
And he's kind the retort now buthe's still sparing with the lads. So
he's one hundred and five kilos takingthe smacks in the head there today of
us. What did you have?You just parked the job for the minute

(17:37):
or what's the cracker? He's straightafter the job and after he owns with
the with the company. Just theease help. But we'll have to make
the jump enough to say, yeah, how many times have they ever had
to lose the lads to professional boxing? Like I just I love that conversation
because there's no argument you there's nolike if you're after another company, it's

(17:57):
like a jeez, maybe you couldor you know what I mean, You're
gonna listen, guys, I justneed some me time, Like fuck that
come back, you've just gotta let'sI'm gonna go puck the ship out of
something. Yeah, fairness to theowner of the company was selling the barly,
you know, and accommodate me.So I'm just going to hand an
over a couple of jobs and theydon't have any owns from now. So

(18:18):
we're training in the mornings, butwe'll have to take a full step back
if they is like the toy andbut yeah, I'm gone, well so
touch wood six round that like thekind of you get a warmer fight back
at Joanie Man. I guess someonethat's just fall over, hopefully but down
some of these like out now.Yeah, so you're picking a pound and

(18:44):
so that's like you might laugh,but you could actually literally pick someone that
you could not get out, like, but you want the rounds. They're
going not being out that long.It's no good to me to knock someone
out. Look great, Like,I'll pick some of that and that will
last. You look at the recordand they've only stopped a couple of times.
So I'll pick someone that I getssix card rounds off or not not

(19:06):
risk the lows, you know.So there's that's that's the way boxing walks.
There's journeymen. You bring them inand get walk from you know,
you would like to just get aquick knock out. I'll think I'm great,
but it's probably not good. Weget all the cameras there, we
get it, maybe a four cameraset up, nice show, real going.
Yeah, sweat line off the backof man said that you knock him
out fand it. I wasn't forit. Now, I guess someone tough

(19:30):
enough. There's a couple of namesmentioned and he weren't good enough. So
I'll guess someone tough enough. Likethere's no point in there, even though
one might look great and you knocksomeone out, but it's not good.
You know. Attend is the thethe to be asking the most basic terms,

(19:51):
why come back? Was it unfinishedbusiness? Well, because like you
said, you're almost gonna go,I'm retired. Like did you chat to
the missus? Did you go along walk and go fuck this all back?
Or literally wasn't the boys got intouch and you went yeah, go
on a bit of that and abit like yeah, I couldn't let it
go. I missed it, LikeI don't remember it. I probably said

(20:15):
in the last podcast, which Iwas thinking of leaving after the Irish Toil
fight, like I was kind aflip of a coin about retort and then
I wasn't happy. Then I wentfull time for three years. Everything went
great. It was like I hadsuccess. I could have left it as
it was like I could have retort, But there was a little niggle there

(20:37):
that I like, I still feelwhy not look up, but I still
feel fresh and sharp like and I'mnot that punchy yet. I don't think
so. Like I think I cancan compete and do well. And they
probably an ego thing, but I'dlike to go out on a whole and
just showing off and a whole ratherthan that the fleet, which I didn't

(21:00):
think I kind of gave a goodaccount to myself. So I kind of
just wanted to come back see hownobody goes and and and signed off and
avoid like you know, that's thethat's the plan. I suppose that's for
somebody that went boxing means so muchto you, you don't want to walk
away and go like it's you know, it's given you so much, You're
given so much to it. Youwant to walk away after getting clipped early

(21:22):
in your last fight and then youknow what I mean, not as you
said, give a good account toyourself, Like you're like, yeah,
it was a bit of that andthe yeah, and then the offered obviously
like I could have been like thathas the opportunities of course back for I
was offered. I was actually offereda couple of foights, but you're short
notice and I haven't been trained,and I just don't on my own account.

(21:45):
But we had been in the gymtrain and the management have got fights.
But I was after a fight withChris Joe Banks June are short and
I was training. Yeah, yeah, I was off a couple of hours.
Fighters were offered that fight kind ofcoil was offer as well, I
think, or like you can missout on things when I'm in the gym,
So it's my own fault for athere was not really set in place

(22:11):
this this kind of this is anopen a door like the GOMCA Any Promotions
are going to have a big shownext year on this land, and like
there's a possibility tore on with Kenneth'sfoining for the Obo belt. It's kind
of like the four main belts,the w B, A, w BO,
WBC, and IBF and this Obobelt this kind of getting more and

(22:33):
more recognized. Glove. We canhave a christ Yo Bank actually had so
it's it's going to recognize the noYou Sticking belt. But it's a belt
that it could probably get me handson, do you get me jesus overly?
Yeah, So it could be likean open air show and Luke and
besoide me and Boddy form next year. Like this is me just dreaming again

(22:55):
because be honest, Yeah, andnever even thought about it. But with
mclaney mcallaney Promotions, they they beingin a position to put regular shows on
and then maybe boy for the likesof the Obo belt. So that's kind
of this is only me talking aboutloud and thinking about this the last few
days, but something that could happen. You know, man, you got
to get that on the whiteboard,like titled yeah fuck that I used to

(23:19):
have We used to have a pictureof that, like we probably a screen
sable on the phone. I onlychanged it like a year ago from I
just left the army phone. Butpeople who are still maybe we make Mark
Kennedy or James what do you doput the child priorities of course of course,

(23:41):
yeah, yeah, I put mychild on yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
What was it a picture of thebelt, was it? Yeah?
Yeah, yeah, So I'll haveto change it to be so on pray
because you get a bit of stick. But I used to have like stuff
like that and the voice that ofthe cardinal. But something you can dream
about again with this these couple offights planned to these dates planned, So

(24:02):
we'll have to start getting back intothat kind of mindset, you know,
and do you do like was thatsomething you did and possibly are going to
get back into. Is like literallymaking for all the world like dream notes,
like an like plan plan of action, like I know it sounds a
bit woo woo, but that shipworks, I swear to god, Oh
it is. Yeah, look likeyou know what. It was all obsessed.
I went from boxing to folks andon walking. I got me house,

(24:26):
but I've done all that kind ofstuff. They are saying, it's
whatever you focus on is kind ofcomes about, don't it. So yeah,
yeah, walk and stuff like that. And that was obsessive about that,
So me mind wasn't really on boxing. And then all of a sudden,
I'm backshallow boxing in the living roomlike a night and stuff, and

(24:47):
now, oh I haven't done thatin three years. But when you have
a it's it's amazing when you havea foight date and stuff and your mind
switches back on. So I'm backkind of. I mean in the job
now, stretching, fucking when I'llgo back in in the aft that no
one's say. People look around mesaying he's a head case. So no
one day I tell the truth.Jamanda Scanner didn't come looking for a scrap

(25:10):
at all. You just wanted topick a fight. Just go and listen.
I just need to knock somebody out. To you, big fellow,
it's the last thing I need now. Now it's called of the post back,
and it's good to be speaking aboutit again because literally, you just

(25:30):
forget about it. I suppose forgetabout The second I saw you put that
post up, the joy jumped inmy heart. I was like, yes,
yeah, yeah, this is perfect. This is exactly what should be
happening. Like it's not like yourfifty six George foremanesque going. I still
do it, guys, put mein you know, it's like, you
know, yeah, like it's yeah, I'm still like I didn't have a

(25:52):
long amateur career and I didn't havea long pro career, had gaps in
between. I had three years off, so I still feel fresh enough.
Yeah, you never got tore upbadly back, like you know what I
mean, went to war a milliontimes, Like I mean, style wasn't
like take a lot of shots,so I could probably I didn't take a
lot of damage in my career.Yeah, so look at you. You

(26:14):
never know, like I'll see howit performed, take a one step at
a time. I actually said itto the promoter and like yeah, I
said, yeah, but I haveto see how we am. There's no
point me come into anything. Sowell, I am very surprised and happy
home performing already. So I didsay at the very beginning it would be

(26:34):
a six round and see how Iam. But I'm already looking past that.
So to be a couple more,you know, only how it didn't
go away. And even in threeyears like you know what I mean,
you talked, your brain went,well I've parked that and now I've gotten
into the job. But still likethe ODA fitness, Yeah, like I
was in and out the gym everyfew months. Once I say, actually
I went back to the gym probablya year ago, a year and a

(26:57):
half ago, and there was ayoung lad, world class lad. Now
Adam McKenna was over sparred and ayear and a half ago and he was
looking for sparred and I had doneon and ages and I was living over
in Grand Canal at the time.And remember I said I'll do a few

(27:19):
rounds it on Freud. They sayI was in the team Tuesday, didn't
do it for years. I saidI'll do a few rounds on the Freday,
thinking like, you know, stillstill had a He had a bit
of a cold and flew walked acrossthe bridge on the Grand Canal. He
used to park the van that hemisses his mother's and I was sweating,
but I didn't pull out a sparkbecause he'd be like deliberately eagle like I

(27:41):
didn't want to miss and got betterwith his lad. So that was actually
one of the last spars he had, probably a year and a half ago,
and took a Hoyden. Took aHoyden off this lad. Adam mckenne.
If he's watching it, he's probablylaugh at at that. Probably put
it nail across the load. That'sit. That's enough. Now you had

(28:03):
enough for a I kind of juststopped in and out like the gym bits
and pieces. But that was thelast bar, probably a year and a
half ago, and probably a yearbefore, so I would like very very
little activity. But I got backin and got back sparing regular and pads
scream and helping with pads at thestart time, and I went out to

(28:25):
Saint Kevin's him in Glass Show,we mate Mark Kennedy, Stevie Rogerson's sham
and was the own body sparred saytwo months ago, just with lads,
normal lads. So it kind ofgot the bit of timing back with that.
So does it. Every Sunday wego out to Glass Tool and then
you go to the forty four half. So you ever looked for a bit
of train and there's all just lads, Like I said, Tom, all

(28:48):
of them, Yeah, retort andheavy for it always felt gravy, short
off straight away. Well guys outyeah yeah, thought it was great.
But you ever passion? Oh now, bray you ever a fancy session on

(29:10):
a Sunday? Yeah, more welcometo come out with Miver. Now they're
all just like really like like this. There's a couple of good young lads
there, but there's a lot oflike lads just just tipping away train and
we're all going on poddy spar thosegrand it's a good session. You know,
so it got back back thort.It was great dropping fellas out there.

(29:33):
Yeah, got the conference back fromthat and then them back in the
gym. You know that's sometimes that'sall you need is just to clip a
few lads like yeah, it's stillgotta it's still got it. And that's
the thing like the general public wouldnever grasp, like you know what I
mean, like a fella who canthe difference? And you know, like

(29:56):
somebody get into you know and throwa few shapes a few lads, you
know, to just put a fewBut then the difference between like that Aaron
mcinna Ladd and you you know,last year to a year because ago like
level training probably war level now ayoung lad him and his bull top lads
there and he was flat out trainingan I taught to be grand. But

(30:17):
just difference just time, like evennow like maybe moiles ahead of where it
was, yeah half ago, justa few weeks train and climbing back.
You know, it is a hugedifference. Is a huge difference. I
think too. I was thinking ofand I wonder how it plays into too
many people put much thought into it. Is the thinking pro because you're you're
a smart person, like you knowwhat I mean, you're a degree engineer

(30:38):
like so, and it's not oftenyou meet somebody who has gone through that
process or whatever, but do youcan you find a way of getting an
advantage that way? And clearly youknow what I mean, you're a good
boxer, but do you like youdo have to think out things like do
you do you think you've a largecapacity for mental boxing? Like but that's

(30:59):
what I'm saying. The last thelast few months of career, like you
learn and you're in an auto toilet, so yeah, you're just kind of
gone boy watching reactions and things.But I'm thinking a lot more since I
went back, probably because I'm abit slower. Maybe you're slowing down,
but I'm actually thinking a defense alot more and catching and how can I
do this? And watching people andsaying, look at he does this,

(31:22):
it does that. It is huge, Like you can actually toy him someone
like he drops his hand or hedoes this when he trowels or he steps
in. So you can actually pickup little things and implement them, but
you have to have a brain toactually do that. Soil and just fight
same mistakes over and over in afight. But if you can make little
adjustments, say, look when Igo to him, he faints or he

(31:45):
moves, or he moves this way. Then you can kind of set people
up, like there's loads of littletricks. With an old prowl like that,
he can kind of see things andimplement things like to be flat like
fellas super fit and fast. Butyou can lean on them and toy them

(32:05):
up. And but like you said, see things coming like toying things and
make movements and and faints and stufflike. It is a it is a
huge mental part of it that don'tI'll probably since I came back, I'm
thinking a lot more of like maybeI'm thinking like I need to be thinking
a bit more, but I'm addinga bit more to be game, I

(32:28):
think. And this is me justtalking out help. But that's that's that's
the interesting side of the side ofboxing for me. See, I'll see
I'll see a lot more now beingon the outside for that long and just
watching, I can see a lotmore a couple of years out and seeing
what what I don't personally wrong andeven like shots that I throwne that were

(32:51):
wrong and movements where it was likeyou can kind of make adjustments, but
you have to be switched on andthink about it. Pee is a real
technical coach that will correct it.But you can kind of go into all
the poilet and play your strengths andkeep making mistakes. So when you're trying
to give lads in the gym andthe voice being a bit older, I
see mistakes they're making now and actuallysaying them like try this, try this.

(33:15):
Like so me even like spotting thingsand seeing things and passing that on.
I'm picking up things in myself butalso the people and it's all like
everyone's going to helping each other out. But it isn't. It is a
huge mental thing, like you knowthat kind of way. It isn't just
fit and strong, like there isso many little tricks that you can do,

(33:37):
like and catch people, you know, and climbing and set people up.
Like speaking out loud too. Isuppose in the process of actually going
no, what I would I'm justsaying what if I was there? What
I would do is I would youknow faint and probably saying it out loud,
probably goes oh fuck, yeah,yeah, yeah, jez, I
actually do know this, Like let'slog that. So for the chest,
because boxing should be it's supposed.I mean boxing clever is is actually know

(34:00):
it's a it's a term of phrasefor actually how you would chess move your
way through a conversation or an argumentor a situation. You say, I
box clever. Yeah, there isa game of chess and it's something bad.
I'll have to just keep on it, like keep on getting cuter and
keep on learning. And it's amazing, Like fucking mom, I'm still only

(34:20):
learning at this stage. Like it'sit's like in the amateur game, like
it depends on the coaches as well. Sometimes just go to water double job
right hand, like just basic stuff. But he is really technical. Went
all the way them European camps likethe Eastern European countries and little mills and
adjustments. It's all like fee placementand body mechanics to get shots put.

(34:46):
It is really technical, so thatwhile he performs that he was in with
Kay for ten years, he's goingto implement that. Really everyone will say
he's a brilliant technical coach. That'swhere the foyers are coming to him.
And that's something that lactic in theearly career and I'm learning now and even
laying more so now because I'm justbeing more more more like like open to

(35:13):
say defense, just practice in defenseand rather than gung how you know.
So it's interesting and it's something thatI'll pick up on more touchwood. But
I suppose you have. You probablyhave a greater reception for it now because
that years we all know, wewere all fucking egest through our entire twenties.
If you think back at the stupidshit you thought of in your twenties,
were like, that was a dumbbastelard. Thirties you get a bit

(35:34):
smarter, you know what I mean, to start to realize, oh so
this is what. So now youactually have the capacity to receive that information
and self critique yourself. This isdo you know? It's gas And I'm
not aligning myself with a pro boxer, but in stand up in stand up
comedy, because it is so hotin the moment that you have to be,
you have to look back on whatyou've done and go Jesus Christ,
I was sloppy the way I stumbledthrough that, because especially if you're hosting,

(35:59):
you know what I mean, you'redealing with bombardment of people's temperaments throughout
the entire night and you am Ikeeping the whole place play, you know,
spinning places? What I when Ido? You know, dive in
on somebody to talk to them andthey throw me something back? Have I
am I five? Because you haveto be five seconds ahead of real time.
The ship is coming out of yourmouth. It's five seconds behind where

(36:20):
your brain is actually at. Andeverybody thinks you're a fucking genius, because
all of Jesus, how did youthink of that? Because you've another part
of your brain going over here.I got somebody I can tie that story
to and it does in the sameway like that you're saying. Now,
well, stepping back from it,I covid I stood back for when we
finally came back. I was rubbishat the beginning, rusty as folk.
I had no memory recall. Ithought I'd never been through a period where

(36:43):
I didn't because you don't have toremember ship from day to day. But
going back through the pass, Istarted to realize how much I loved it
might stand up completely changed because Iwas like, oh wait, now,
I was so focused on the wellwritten material that I had when there's a
whole game in front of here thatI can actually play while tying that in
as well, you know, likeso, like I said, I'm not

(37:05):
aligned myself, but it is interestingthe mental game look at and it's something
that all you kind of I know, it's super focused for them three years,
and I was just it was superfocused. But near the end there
was an autop boilet it happens simme soil and I was landing well and
spared, but it wasn't actually presentin me spired. I get it.
Yeah, yeah, in the firstcouple of years that was walking, I

(37:29):
got super fit and don't be strengthand done that for I actually wasn't actually
improving now like in the plataut forthem a couple of years near the end.
Then I probably went like stale becauseit's funny. But now that I'm
back, now I'm kind of refreshedand point of think and I'm WHI I
don't and you can reassess things werein that moment. In them three years,

(37:52):
I went to a level a boveme previous level. But then plateaut
I think, yeah, just thisis just me talking out now even I
never even like actually said that,but it is the same process. I
probably just plat out. But nowthat I'm back I'm the only things that
I didn't deal coming up to mewald toylfight, I'm catching, I'm trown,

(38:15):
I'm defending on trown shots. I'mseeing shots better, like I'm actually
meeting me hand placement, the handsare me hands our better position than they
were because I'm thinking more of thedefense. So I am improving what do
you mean, like elbows in kindof thing, just protecting the ball,
and it was just a bit sloppywith me hands me hands were a bit

(38:35):
open. If you've watched clips beforeyou it's now I'm kind of being clever
when we hand positions, getting themcloser, like catching better, just better
defense and then catching shots and trownstraight away. Just just little tweaks that
I'm doing that is walking down withspired that I probably didn't spire that way
before. If you gave me likesme ten for me, yeah, you
know, probably a lot more.It's probably nearly more fun. Like you

(38:59):
sound like you're actually having nearly morefun at it now because you're you're you're
probably becoming a completely different fighter nowthat you're you're you're another side to your
game as well as opening your mindup to it. Yeah, and in
and out went fast and it wasspared, and that was walking for me.
Now all of a sudden, I'mwatching and staying in there like more
middle close distance, and I'm havingmore success that way. So it's it's

(39:22):
like it could be something that youneeded a couple of years off to actually
reassess, you know, because youget car open things, don't you.
Yeah, So it's kind of it'swalking from me now and I'm back.
I remember I remember hearing the filloutside to remember hearing of a guy and
it's unheard of, you know,if you're playing at elite level football or
eleague level and for the coach togo a yeah, you can, you

(39:45):
can take some time off you want, because you're a money making machine.
Remember reading it was a guy hetook it, took a year off.
He was playing for rugby for Australiaat the highest level, like seven days
a week, NonStop, just beingbombard and he's turned around to the coachman,
listen to the head isn't I'm notloving this anymore. The head isn't
right, and I need I needat least a year off of surfing.

(40:07):
Not even think about this. Theman went grant actually let him go,
like he came back three times theplayer he was even not his face,
but just because he just cleared thehead and was able to stand back and
see the wood for the trees,Like, yeah, well I done that.
He never really trained full time.I've done that. And they build
up that wall toil fight kind ofwas all just a lot of pressure and

(40:30):
hectic and kind of it is allmental and that's all you can actually recognize
with four years. There's Katie Taylor. She's been to all the huge fights,
and I think in the last fight, the homecoming, she was emotional
getting into the ring. He cansee the emotion of face, but that
SAPs your energy. Of course.It's like I don't think she was a

(40:53):
self in that fight. And youthink four at the lead level a whole
life. You think if someone's preparedfor that, it'd be it'd be whole.
But I think that kind of way, like it's a game of twenty
percent. It just that way,you just dipped toward energy levels and was
the same with me and that buildup. That fight wasn't used to that
big stage, the bright lights,and I was kind of just caught the

(41:15):
headlights of it. I remember thatI never went to the event before the
fight happened, and I didn't knowthe way to the ring around and I
was a delay to get to thering, and I'm waiting around and just
just caught hold. I thought hewas kind of caught the headlights, cameras
and stuff like that, like littlethings can can effect a performance. You
know. It is a huge mentalthing the box on. But that's one

(41:37):
thing I see and even the whyhappened to go in at James Gary Cully.
He was built up, he hada couple of big knockouts built This
is a big homecoming, big outroom. But he could have been caught up
in the event, like it isa big mental thing and then just caught
in the headlights and then and hewas caught and stopped, you know.

(41:58):
So it is that that at leastfor that high level, it's a it's
a game of percentages. And they'relike, well, I suppose you and
and that's where sports psychologists come intothe thing where they put you in the
right frame of mind or that Ilisten, it's genuinely just another fight.
Do you know if you can ifyou can block up, now you do
it two or three times and heprobably just sails over. You go.

(42:19):
Just let me get in the ringand then you know what I mean,
because once you know yourself, you'resmart. Once you see it, once
you're like right now, I knowyou know. But as you said,
you're delayed getting to the ring.You didn't know the direction the So yeah,
Luke's Luke's had a technical difficulty there. He's a really good fighter.
I swear to God, fantastic engineer. The phone wouldn't be the greatest friend

(42:44):
him, that's the only thing.Yeah, while we were talking about the
mental thing, and I won't keepbecause it's too much longer, because it's
late and you're probably beating the shipout of some fellow tomorrow. This is
a game changer, right, canyou see that? You see that stuff?
Yeah? I have some I gotit, I did. Yeah,
I have capsules. I took oneof Tai over lions, man. I

(43:07):
actually want to show you them.I have, yeah, get him going,
go on, go on? Allright? What else do I get?
This is for their testosterone? Thatwhat's that one ashwaggy fucking extractation?

(43:30):
Yeah, I have loins man somewhere. I find it very good for mental
focus, right, unbelievable for focus, like really good for lighting up stuff
that i'd forgotten years ago, likeactually noticeable, like but you know it's
right, it seems I cleaned up. I'm a lot sharper, you know,

(43:52):
for all the camps as soon asa credit like processed field and just
went on bege and meats and stuff. I've got a lot later. So
but I'll try that lines man,now you say it, I have a
have capsules. Capsules if you havea big sparing session ahead of yet,
if you take maybe two of thema half an hour out right right,

(44:14):
I'll try yeah, because what you'lldo is you'll well, I mean just
relating to what I do. Whatyou'll find is whatever you learn, the
last thing you'll put you'll implement itphysically. Yeah, yeah, thinking and
pull it into into practice. Yeah. I find the flow states. You
find I end up slipping into theflow states much easier when I'm on it,

(44:35):
because it's like getting up no thinkingneeded, almost to degree. It's
like, all right, this isI'm all in here now forgetting about everything
else right right now. I'll definitelytake it. Yeah, and the host
we take it what we find likelike you said, well, yeah,
if you're in a bad way,that's still fudn't walk as well with it.
No, yes, system I suppose. Especially I've moved down since I

(44:57):
met you last. I've moved backto the family. I moved my very
south Dublin wife to very rural Tipperaryas she actually loves it. She loves
because we've like you know what Imean, we've a few acres here,
Like you know, the Unfelod he'sthreeing out, going on four, and
he sure he's able to run aroundhis match as a badger. Like.
But what I found is I foundmy My diet got very very not basically

(45:22):
it's the wrong word, but it'svery clean. A lot of just clean
beef, clean venison. You know, I've gone back hunting again, stuff
like that, like and you know, so it's it's gone. It's got
a bit carnivory and well not notyou know, there's vege in there too,
like, but for the most part, I don't have to fuck around
with process food at all. Afriends of the Mind and the job actually

(45:43):
tried that Carnivvaldy and he's his pupilsa lot clear of what he looks.
He looks a lot sharp, buthe's dropping He drastically dropped weight on it.
I don't know whether it's just waterattention with process field, but he
swears with a carnival day see JordanPeace and talks about that stuff to me
and his daughter. I haven't goneall in, but I mean, I

(46:08):
definitely a large a large people.But then they'll be like a day or
two jouring the week. But I'lljust go pure veggie, do you know
what I mean? Just for thesake of it? Like you know what
I mean. But it's a large, large amounts of meat. And I've
noticed myself like this is probably ofmy working week right now. It's probably
our ninety odd Yeah, and I'llhonest to God Luke, of which I

(46:31):
could go another five hours, nobother, and I'm up again tomorrow morning.
I'm off to get timber tomorrow morningand leash, don't give a folk
begone like. But there's it's it'sit's also an appreciation for do you give
a fuck about hardness? Is itreal? Like? Is it real?
Like? If you're actually minding yourselfto degree, like you know what I

(46:51):
mean? The booze and all thatstuff, it just burns the bolocks out
of here, you know, andall that process, sugars, all that
sculter like you can go hard,like you can go all that it does,
Actually it just slows you down mentally. Oh you know, I'm on
the go. I'm like a selfhim on the goal. It wouldn't actually
count the hours, but I'm onthe go all the time. And the
Yeah, it's probably all in thehead a lot of the time. And

(47:14):
there's a lot of it was notlike there's a lot of hours to be
to be going and walking and andthe only wall you know, well,
I'm I'm convinced anyway that it's well, a lot of its probably comes.
It does help when it's something youlike, you know, they get away
when it's you know you know,yeah, not for someone when you don't
have someone else, you don't wantto do it. It's pretty if it's
personal and generally think you'll do itand if you love it, like the

(47:36):
same goals for training if you joinit, and there's great, there's great
cracker, all the lads. Ithink men need to be around I man,
yeah, that little Commanderie and theslagons and the stick. It's something
that men need and it's getting abit it's it's it's I don't know what
the society's kind of going away fromthat, and like it's not as as

(47:58):
as prevalent anymore as it it seemsto be a notion all right, Yeah,
it does seem to be a notionthat it's I don't know, you
can call it what you want,they mail toxicity or whatever, but there's
it's been the same for fucking tenthousand years. Not talk about blokes giving
anybody else shit, just close friends, brothers in arms and whatever you're doing
is to tear each other asunder.It's not I don't think it's fucking healthy

(48:21):
to be packing each other on theback nine. You know, all hours
of the day gone, you're doinggreat, keep it up, You're like,
go fuck yourself. Tell me I'mespecially being irish. We shouldn't be
anyway like that, you know.But the group chat that we have with
the box of these is christ terriblestate. If you wouldn't want to see
a public book like I love whatidea you know it's good? Well,

(48:43):
but you are you are right.There is there is an element where we've
been where society which I think it'sgot it's flipping back a small but I
think that was a fad for acouple of years. I think it is
flipping back where the notion that menshouldn't be around other men or women like
say, the same applied to surewomen like and you know the times right
when you're misses and a gang ofof friends are sitting inside or they're sitting

(49:06):
somewhere and you land in and youmay as well be have it taking a
ship in all their handbags. They'relooking at you, going, we like
you, luke, but cut yourfuck off and you absolutely know what you're
like. Yeah, yeah, itwas real. Yes, no, it's
still clear here before what do youmake these new kind of hybrid things?
And I at first I hated them, these new kind of you know,

(49:30):
fucking throwing YouTubers and stuff into boxingand first it's got this is a scandalous,
you know, disrespect of an ancientboard. Yeah, but I don't
know. I'm kind of now ofthe opinion that it's no no news is
you know, all those is goodnews. Like, I think it's good
if you can get real foyers easyon the cards and it brings fans and

(49:52):
it sells tickets like you seeing yeahman, Jake Paul, he was actually
on the show and Miami therois on, Well if they can sell tickets and
carry fights, and that given firesopportunities on the only cards, which the
lights of him is the o't Idon't see any harmlet like it just sells
tickets to me. And there theman to the going that he fall in
the last but you got a careerwho he paid that go id aspect to

(50:15):
millionaire, So like, how couldyou like that? Just promoters any like
they sell tickets, Like how couldyou It's just the way things are gone,
and he like you need to beThey're just pointing out all the content
and selling hits. It that moneymaking machines, all that kind of stuff.
And then well, I suppose ifyou look at the flips that you
said, it's at the top ofthe this episode you said, what's blowing

(50:37):
you away is the amount of supportsyou're getting now that you hadn't got.
And I'm just wondering, has boxingitself like finding Luke is our guy?
You know, is boxing getting agood I think it's getting a good show.
And the people are saying the word, they're physically saying the word boxing
on a regular basis. That's it. Maybe that's it because the likes of

(50:58):
that, there was some influence.Our show in the Tree Arena done well
and there was just like yeah,they were complete, like there was actually
a couple of mm you guys thatgot walk over. But if he got
actual fighters busy on it and andgive opportunities and had say two or three
YouTube or the sell tickets, it'snot as bad, you know that kind
of way. But maybe that's theballs that's coming. It's probably is coming

(51:22):
from that because they melt the messages. I get a ticket mask that link
on Monday to send around with Johnfor fight tickets rds. But the huge
demand, but it probably is notgoing to affect to that YouTube stuff.
And of course you're mclenny has theright idea. He'll see he can see
that, he can see it comingdown the line, making a fest festival

(51:44):
of it. Yeah, he's abuilder, so he's a business moment and
I think it will do well.Like he was talking big acts for the
music, he might get a shoutthere Tom for for a comedy section.
I rather if he needs comparing orif I've got a got a suit and
I will travel to Lucan. That'sno problem. I've always had good gigs
in Lucan. I'm good friends withWill Wait you know Will I know really

(52:07):
well yeah yeah, well he doneis forced? He don't a white color
event in boxing there friends Dave Collinsand send him. Man must actually bring
them up about it if that wasa forced one. But it wouldn't be
a bad show from you know,maybe the undercard. He might get one
or two slots for I used tohave a maybe a man Stephen has sell

(52:30):
a YouTube boxing for comedians. Youknow, usial sell tickets or it is
like seeing mixture. If it sellstickets and people are losing money running events,
the means they'll run more events,and so there's no harm in it,
Like we don't see any there's somepeople slaying and like it's wrong,

(52:51):
it's wrong, but if it getspeople pay then gets regular shows, they
don't see their harm and having acouple on you know, the spotlight in
boxing is and that's unfortunately or unfortunatelythat's the way everything's going. Sure,
I mean the UFC, there's onehundred ufcs out there, but there's only
one UFC and it's all the fireworksand the lights and everything, and even
I see like Formula one. Iwas looking at it the other day.

(53:14):
It was just on the news andthey had it was in Texas and Daniel
Ricardo, who I wouldn't follow muchof it, but it was Inmate,
was a spectacle. He lands downto the fucking race track because it was
Texas is an Australiana with a bigcowboy had on a fucking horse. They're
like, yeah, yeah, makea sideshow of it because people need I
don't know these days, if justthe sport itself is enough in any sport,

(53:37):
I think they need fucking hoop andnanny's and look at how the Americans
do American football for folks sake.Sure they football itself is only secondary.
Yeah, the super Bowl was abig thing. I don't know. Yeah,
it probably needs more. Probably willhave to do more on on social
media. Now. Yeah, yeah, I'll go out on a horse down

(53:59):
the street and Valley Family. Yes, yes, on a two wheeler's sulky.
That's what we do. Yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah. Medad
actually has a couple of so I'llget an of his. I swear to
god we would get like we couldget a camera crew following you up the
street and everything as you come tothe ring that regular Jordan's somewhere around the

(54:23):
roads and Poddy firmly, Yeah,it's funny, it's funny. We could
do that. Yeah, you doit as a bring engines or from from
the house traveling to the Rdyes,that's it. You know, we're all
tales tickets on it. It's intereststhat click, you know, it's all
social media. Everything is, whetheryou like it or not. Like while

(54:46):
you were waiting, like we're waitingto do the call here this evening,
like sure we'll have time. I'lljust clip up. And we're all having
to film our gigs now and clipit up and be our own fucking editors
and our own promoters. And youknow, you look with the phone it's
like, oh great and literally quiteliterally, Luke, I just because your
phone went dead or whatever. Ijust looked and I twelve tickets sold to

(55:07):
us too much. I show thatI have just sold in the you know,
in the thirteen minutes that because Iput up that clip. Yeah,
yeah, it is a money makemachine. The aon TikTok. I haven't
enjoined TikTok. I have, butI don't I don't do I'm not benefiting
from TikTok. Like, TikTok isincredible if you can make it work for
you. But literally, all I'mputting on TikTok I was putting up stupid.

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It like doesn't tell you how littleI know about social media that you
could you could spend a month rightcreating an amazing thing gets nobody's views.
The biggest view thing I ever hadwas I just and this is a truthful
thing that happened that day. Ijust to camera went, you know,
Polish people don't have a word fortoes. They call them fingers of your

(55:50):
feet. That's true, right,they don't, right. I put it
up half a million views, halfa million views, gosh shared and about
the negative yeah yeah whatever whatever wenton with the algram. They people all
had their comments on it because Paullike people from like Rowanda, We're going,
yeah, we're the same. I'mlike, what the fuck somebody Rwanda's

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looking at my big Tipperary fucking head, Like, you know, we have
a friend Jim d Shai he boxesbaning guys away. Yeah, but he's
checked him out on TikTok Magic Hands, so he'd started he started, you
know, like cord practice, likethese clicks, you know, like the
back probably two years ago now,done a couple of courses. I know

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he used to laugh about you know, he'd get someone on the neck and
they heard the noise and said he'sgonna get arrested for that. But he
went out to him and done asession in his house and it was he
was good. Now he was verygood. There was probably fucking dodgy.
Now he was actually very good.But is it because I'm obsessed by that

(56:58):
on TikTok follow him and go outand see him because he felt great at
well he's he's an explode and TikTokJimmy has and he's act like he's full
I think he's full time at thatnow. You know, I swear to
god, if you did, ifyou of all you did was fifteen second
videos of each day at the gym, you could yeah, yeah, like

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the story, well it's it's content, but there's there's a continuous story to
it. If all you did wasfifteen seconds, I went, all right,
I'm sick as a pig here gettingto get me anobolics knocked out get
and they've been a reality. Butwhat people. You have no idea how
people would they buy into because it'sperfect for them. They're like, cool,

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I have no idea. Like someof the most popular ones that I've
ever done, was you take saysix videos in total of all five seconds,
and it's literally like just sitting inthe car right come to me as
I go and open the three arena, you know what I mean, or
here or any gig you go,and then you just video of the of
their room, quick video you're walkingon stage, and then back in the

(58:05):
car right away for chips. Actuallyit's that, yeah, just that personal
thing, and people just go,well, I have no idea what it's
like to be a stand up comedian. I have no idea what it's like
to be a pro boxer. Ifyou could give them and if you just
look at the tiny versions. Idon't do the big long stuff or any
technical shit. You can record withno sound and then voice it over afterwards
to go right, so here herewe are hidden to such as such painting

(58:28):
me botics from yesterday still have bruisedribs. Let's see how we go today,
And then a video like a clipat the very end as you're walking
out of gym, goun Jesus,you know what I mean. And then
I have an appointment with like there'sthere's a machine in town that decompressors are
spying. You know, there's asupper with me back pieces. I'd love

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that. Yeah, so you juststrack me in and fucking stretch. I
think I think it's over a coupleof hundred grand the machine, so to
go and do it that on oneday, but stuff like that people probably
want to see it. You havethe second you said that my lips are
selevating for the idea of actually havinga goal. Yeah, yeah, you
get strapped in and get the spoiltbeing compressed. A video for it that
could be be forced video out therecould just literally do one walking in the

(59:13):
door, a video of the ofthe name over the door, and you
don't need to do voice out overas you're walking walk in and you can
vote our own videos after after yousee. That's what the winner for me
is because then you don't have tothink of it and fucking smart in the
moment you can write and then yourvideo it again you video the machine.
Oh yeah, so it will bebetter, could be better that? Yeah,

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you throw them all together and thenwhen you're about ready. It says
what you want to do and youwant or do you want to do voice
over? And your voice it over? Right? That's interesting. Yeah yeah
I'll try that try. I knowoutphl is like us are going, oh,
who the fucking why do we lookingat that? Trust me? But
that's the way it's gone in it. Like if you want to sell tickets

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and build a brand, that thatthat guy Jake Paul is making millions any
they spent making videos, but thatthat ton't showing that money because he did
that content in it. Whatever itis, it's even on he's on the
giant scale, you know what Imean, he's on the this. But
there's lads, there's there's lads aroundIreland who are what you're doing is you're

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you're you're peddling your your business typically, so you're getting fitness instructors who are
get normally people who do short funnylike fucking look at the cut at this
top him after buying, you knowwhat I mean, and that's it onto
the next day and that's enough forpeople They go all right, he's irrelevant
now and then like you can alwaysyeah, yeah that's good. So I

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can tell you no more. That'sabout as technical as I know. But
I'm trying to give it to youfrom my point of view where you don't
have to be looking smart in themoment. You can vise it over after.
But because you've got an interest instory to the fact that you're to
come back, you're making to comeback, you know, but actually do
videos of that actual corocess. It'sprobably not a bad idea to be honest
and happening one place, because it'ssomewhat don't do a lot of no,

(01:01:07):
you don't do it all though you'reFuck, it's not even a lot of
you don't do it all. Let'swell no, yeah, yes, this
is this is a lot of thelast three years. Have this conversation for
a yeah, yeah, it isgood because it's important to sell tickets for
the show and continue on and havethat dream, like I said, the

(01:01:30):
belt and that comes with ticket salesand and and and booms on seeds.
You know that's it, and youliterally unfortunately it has to be part of
your plan you're over the next twoto three years. It has to be
part of your plan is to makeyourself more popular more like you have to
think of the bat the boys thatyou can want to sell tickets because your

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head shown up. But yeah,yeah, unfortunately I have to just plunge
into it. Yeah, you haveto just just go back and imagine the
same way you went into the gym. I got your bolex handed to you
the first day. It's the samething with the phone. Now charge the
phone, Yeah, and you getsharper. Yeah, exactly. Before you
know it, you'll be a fuckingTikToker like Ladson Park in the boxing.

(01:02:14):
I go full time to TikTok.No, No, your your fists are
too big for the phone. That'sall it is. Yeah, right,
So when when is the Hope Autumn? Sometime late autumn? The show is
the rds is the sixty of theSeptember, And we have a fighter for
you yet not yet, no,but will be good. Like I said,

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Johnny Man is now not someone Igotta knock out, unfortunately, so
someone I'll get the rounds off,someone decent enough six rounds and then probably
opt over again and eight round andthen I could look at like you mentioned
jam and Jason quickly for like he'scoming off a loss. Were done well

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in America. He's the same wayyou box in the amateurs. Oh ye
asked for that could be a fightthat can be made. So you never
know, like the fact that I'mback in the gym now, there's there's
chances of stuff like that. Youknow. Yeah, well you gotta be
you have to be in among it, just like TikTok. Unfortunately, you
have to be in among it actuallyfor stuff to happen. So sixteenth of
September Ember is the fourth one hugeinterest, thank god. And I'll say

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be a big probably five thousand peoplethere. You'll have to come along.
Come. Oh, I'm going tobe there because I'm hosting a thing early
in the day on the sixteenth inDublin anyway, so it's going to work
out perfect long and then that thingon Sunday. You ever needed session on
Sunday body sparred ropo. Yeah,I might just TikTok the whole thing.
I'll just sit on the edge ofthe party foot. No, there's content

(01:03:49):
for it because it's fun and Iwant the jam Rogerson and held that.
Like Jesus, you get great content. They're just like throw by fuckingpas in
a sixty big man spared. We'regoing spired with him and he's he had
a sixtieth day and can still fullyou like big hard Man all Jim,

(01:04:13):
real throw back Jim. But there'scontent for TikTok day. You see,
this is the thing. People don'tbelieve this shit, so you have to
you have to get it on,you have to get it on video.
Like, yeah, yeah, youshould come along. That'd be that'd be
a good one. Actually that isactually sounded more and more tempting than All
Fairness. At the beginning, Iwas like, fuck that, but that
doesn't sound like a ripe of thecrack. Actually it is. It is

(01:04:34):
good. You get gold and stuff, healthy gold. Right, I'm not
going to keep you any later becauseyou can you can go hit the Hey
you've got fighting to be going doingsixteenth of September. Yeah, thanks your
twining, right gentlemen, see thatright? Might just have good looking What
is it to say? Let's gochamp? How could you not like him?

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How could you not like Luke Heeler, the gentleman of Irish boxing in
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least then you'll know when it arrives. Five stars would be amazing. Right,
This is the end of about onehundred and fifty hour week from me.
I'm gonna go stick my head ina bucket of something alcoholic. Can
I get blessing? Thanks?