272 - Dawn Wong - The Tom O Mahony Show

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on to today's guest. Today's guestis a comedian from Shanghai. How cool
is that? All the way fromShanghai. We our internet broke a few
times because it's a fair audistance,so but it came together lovely. It
was a great crack. Her nameis Dawn Wong. She is absolutely brilliant.
I put a link down the bottomto her TikTok so you can see

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the kind of sketches she makes andstuff like that. Very very interesting chat
and a super sound woman does itvery very good Irish croquilate because of course
her husband is from Galway, afarmer from Galaway, all the way at
Shanghai. Listen, sit back andenjoy the fantastic Dawn Wong. This is
a nice do you know what.I'm not even going to edit out much

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of this. I'm just gonna letit roll because that's exactly what podcasts with
two comedians is supposed to be.Yeah, yeah, yeah, we finally
made the machine go. Yes,straight out the gate. I came how
I obviously through TikTok, I spottedyou. I was like, this is
an absolute they nailed it because peopletry but they never but it's like great

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drying out. Yes, yeah,wait rich one, did you did you
see the Oh well, the onethat caught me for was it was just
it was you talking to you andit was irish traits of how people actually
interact in public, and the otheryou was absolutely terrified. Oh yeah,

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introvert actually smiling. That's a bigculture shock shock, Like every time I
go to Ireland, that's like oneof the biggest things for me because I
grew up in the tree and it'sjust not looking at each other. What's
what is the Are you from Singapore? Originally? No, I'm where I
mean China. Actually I am fromChina. I was born raised here in

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China. Yeah, actually never beento Singapore. Yeah, I don't know
why. Why did I think youweren't? Where? Did you say where
are you? Then? I don'tknow? To you people, China and
Singapore's like tomato tomorrow, isn't it? No? No, it's not,
no, not at all. Butfor some reason, yeah, some reason
I thought you were Where are you? Then? I'm in Shanghai? Actually,

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yes, I live in I couldgo back through my messages and Singapore
come up. Isn't that funny?I wonder if somebody's tapping in and going
no, no, we'll say she'sfrom you know, it's like Shanghai.
Yeah yeah, that is a placeI've always wanted to go. My brother
in law just came back from there. Yeah yeah, yeah, he's over

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there a lot no work. Work, he's over there a lot with work.
What would do It's something to dowith computers, way more technical than
me. Okay, all right,I don't ask, I just not go.
Okay, that's he knows. There'sno point in telling me what he
does. Do you know, there'sthere's no point. Wow, that must
be really technical. Yeah, wellhe's been going a long time, so

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I think it's he has built agood relationship. So I like whatever company's
working within rmony. I know thatthe two back and forth. He loves
it. He loves it. Nokids, no wife, no nothing.
He's like, yeah, after Shanghai, he loves it. Now you're a
younger brother or older brother, ohbrother in law, my wife brother,

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he's yeah, always older. Thisis a guy that you know, those
guys that will never get married justjust are never never settled down. Properly.
This is way too much fun?Is that too much for for Irish
people? Is that very like unconventionalor it is it is unc but I
think it's getting more and more notdo you know, I say unconventional.

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But if you actually looked around thecountryside, there's a lot of bachelor's,
unmarried men who have kind of theywere probably the youngest in the family.
We're only talking about this the otherday, the youngest in the family.
They kind of ended up staying withthe parents to mind the farm. And
now they're in there like fifties andlife has kind of passed them by a
bit, and they're like, ah, all right, and I'm appearance are

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dead and now I've got the farmand but nothing else but a dog,
you know. So there's a lotyou know, Yeah, there's a lot
of them. There's a lot wherelife is just passing by because they were
the last and they just kind ofhad to look after the family business or
whatever or whatever it was. Butnow everybody else has moved to cities or
moved away and they're the ones leftholding the thing. There's actually wouldn't would

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in like four or five kilometers ofwhere I am right now there's got to
be like twenty guys in and I'mwe've moved back from Dublin. We've moved
out of Dublin back to rural land. There's gotta be twenty guys. So
if you know any any women whoare you know, looking for a guy
would land and money? All right, let me think of Let me think

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about this. So many that wouldjust go to a rural Ireland place to
to farm That's gonna be hard.Hold on, you literally did that in
one of your videos. I did, I did. But the thing is
I don't live there. I livein show Mine. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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and like to to make me moveto a farmland like that might be
one of the like that. That'sgonna be hard. That's gonna be really
hard. I'm gonna find it reallydifficult to just like live my life there
because I grew up in the city. Yeah yeah, but and a busy,
busy city too, I mean yeah, then there's a lot time from

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in the city. You know,you got go downstairs. I have two
Starbucks right downstairs, like two whywhy have one when you can have two?
Of course of course. Yeah,yeah, so that's kind of Yeah,
it's always hard like whenever I goto Ireland. That's like one of
the things because my my husband's froma farm, so we whenever I go

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to Ireland, I just find itsuper quiet. And as what my sketch
was saying, like neighbors just droppedby, you know, just like whatever,
Like they don't care if you're inyour pajamas or whatever. They drop
by for a tea. You know, like if they take out the biscuits.
Oh, it's gonna be long.It's gonna be along with cancer,

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your flands, cancer your friends,if you've got the Basically, isn't that
ironic that you are from such apopulated place, but yet less people talk
to each other, you know whatI mean? Yeah, I guess that's
that's why. Because when you you'relike growing up to so many people around
you, like people are just likethe most normal thing in your in your

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eyes, right, so you're justlike that, it's like you don't yea
yeah, yeah, yeah, you'rejust dead to all the people, you're
right, yeah, Okay. Andalso I think in the city, maybe
you're you're gonna be worried about you'regonna get scammed if you talk to stranger.
Oh yeah, like that kind ofthing. Yeah, okay, you

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trying to avoid people on the roadespecially, and you don't like in the
city, people are like unhinged.Sometimes you don't know who's crazy, so
you don't want to run, youdon't really want to talk to people and
make eye contact. Actually, I'moriginally from northeast of China, so that
it's kind of bordered with Russia,and our people are known by known for

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just being aggressive. But sometimes sometimeslike you walk on the street in like
where I'm from, Like you walkon the street and you look at a
man like you could have a fight, Like where are the Russians of China?
You know, it's just literally yeah, so you don't make eye tongue
and literally, well, our famouslike people, how do you say?

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Like it's like a saying, Likepeople in where I'm from, if you
look at them, they would saywere you looking at? Like they would
literally say that to you. Okay, that's literally the town I went to
school, and that's literally Tipperary town. It was take and you look at
anybody's like what are you looking at? Yeah? Really? But Irish people

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friendly, Like whenever I walk onthe street, I see Irish people like
we make eye contact. It's alwayslike hello, Hi, how are you?
You know? So yeah, yeah. To be fair, I think
there's a deep rooted history and kindof plan like behavior. You know,
especially Irish people with Irish people,they they feel they have to be nice

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because for eight hundred years you werelocked behind closed doors of the British and
then all of a sudden it's open. It's like, oh, say hello
to everybody, you know, becauseyou mean you don't say hello to each
other before that? No, Idon't, well we probably No, it
wasn't. It wasn't overly allowed.It wasn't overly allowed. Congregations, people
and stuff like that wasn't. Itwasn't overly appreciated, like our own sports,

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all that, any of our culturewas all kind of washed away to
degrees, so they weren't really allowedto do much of their own thing.
So as soon as the gates wereopened in like nineteen twenty or whatever,
it was was like, oh,great, we get to be really we
get to have a great time.I also think maybe the reason you guys
are really nice to each other islike you know everybody, like you know

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everybody, everybody knows if you're anasshole. Like the whole village now because
you're an asshole, Like, oh, he didn't even say to me,
say hello to me last time.It's probably was something like that. Yeah,
there's definitely that when there's only fivemillion people, you know what I
mean, it's not yeah, likethat could be how many people are in
shank that's a population. That's apopulation on my apartment building. Two starbucks.

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You need two Starbucks or five millionpeople? Yeah, I know,
yeah, it's it's true with onlyfive million. And when you think that,
like there is quite it's it isa small country, but like Britain
is only time and a half thesize and they have nineteen million. So
you know, so there's there isan anonymity in numbers, whereas here,
as you just said, you kindof have to wave with everybody even if

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you don't know them because they're probablyrelated to somebody, you know, yeah
and say yeah, I know,he thinks he's a big shot. Now
yeah, we have like twenty twentyseven million in Shanahai. I think twenty
five twenty five to twenty good god, yeah, good god. Yeah.
And it's like it's like I don'teven see my friends like sometimes, you

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know, it's it's very impossible yourun into people in the city. Actually
really yeah, it's kind of impossible. Like you feel pretty like for me,
you feel pretty free. You walkon the street one day, you
know, you're just like you don'thave tools. Yeah, you don't have
to talk to anybody. You knowthat you can just be. You know,

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if you want to be a ship, like a piece of shit today
and you just like be a pieceof a bit. I think that's actually
really liberating. But in Ireland youdo feel more like I feel more like
I have to kind of say becauseI'm the only Chinese in the village.
So that's the name of your sitcom, that is the name of your sitcom,

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that's the name of today's show.Everybody the only Chinese in the village.
Yeah, it's like, you know, like I don't know who I
think everybody knows me, even Idon't know anybody. Still I walk on
the street or the country road.Then people look at me and they're like,
I know, I know that Chinesewoman is married to somebody's son,
you know, like that kind ofstuff. It's a good shot in the

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dark that you know that it hasn'thappened too many times in the area.
They're like, oh no, no, no, you've the wrong Chinese girl
there, No, she's actually married. That's true. I'm the only one,
yeah for sure, Like Ellen Ellenthe Chinese restaurant in Ireland, Like
it's probably a lot of them notowned by Chinese, Like no, yeah,
no, not at all. Yeah, you asked him and you're like,

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and where are you originally from?And Chinese yourself? Oh no,
I'm from Thailand. Oh yeah,yeah, it's fair enough. Yeah,
it's yeah, it's it's but whenwas the so your husband your husband is
Irish? Where where in Ireland?He's from a village. He's from a
place called It's it's kind of closeto Galway. It's like an hour drive.

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The village is called Coutra. Doyou know do you know Hurler Hurlers
uh Mannion's part of Many and KahaManian that's his brothers. Oh wow,
right, okay, right, rightright series hurling Stock. Okay, it's

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real. It's basically yeah, likeyou walk on the street and you are
like even you're driving for like threehours and you meet somebody, then I
see like sometimes my postile talk tosomebody. Then within five minutes they're already
like, Okay, I know yourmom's cousin like that kind of stuff,

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like oh it is yeah, itis ridiculous, to the point that my
wife, she's originally from Dublin.I'm rural, rural, and even she
was christ Tom, is there anyconnections you don't have? I'm like,
no, no, I think things. No, things can just be random
really and literally like I was.I was doing warm up warm up for
a TV show last night in Dublin, and like five people in the green

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room. There was an immediate connectionbetween, oh, my uncle used to
my uncle used to mend radiators forcars down near you. You worked with
your father, Yeah, yeah,yeah, that's exactly. Every time,
like we go out with my husband'sfamily, like his dad, his dad,
his dad's name is also Tom.Like Tom knows everybody, Like we

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can drive four hours in Ireland.Tom still't like just shaking hands, Like
as soon as he get off thecar he starts shake hands with people's already
doing with like he's shaking hand witheverybody. It's just like it's pretty crazy.
I think. Yeah, so clearlythis is the one the question,
because in fairness, you're nailing theaccent, but you obviously had good English

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before you met him. Yes,but when he when he started speaking,
were you like, what version ofEnglish do you have? Because this is
not fucking yeah. Yeah. First, first of all, like I remember
when we first started dating. Thenhe was saying things like, uh like
car he would say care because theWest of ironment, what is care like?

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He just makes you question your Englishlevel, you know, like very
very much. And till the otherday he met my like one of my
best friends, she's from Australia.Then he says something like he was saying
something like, oh, I havea care Then my friend turned to me
said what is care like? Shelooks so confused. I'm like, okay,
it's not me. It's not justme. Okay, that's good.

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Yeah, or Mark right like retiredlike he just likes to saying all these
Yeah, we tend to go abit hard. There's no softness, especially
in the West of Ireland accent,there is no softness. They go hard
on all their rs. Yeah yeah, they go yeah yeah care Yeah,
I can see it. Yeah theypronounced as often as as age. It's

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hit. Yeah, it doesn't makeany sense. I else Yeah, yeah,
that's not really yeah, Nora El'sin Ireland Park West and for some
reason, like I remember I wasin Thendora a couple of years ago skiing
and I was we're in the airport, get going there and there was two
Galway guys beside me to going wellbyes, are you going skiing? I
was like yeah, yeah, yeahlike shellfish stick, you know, like

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shellfish stick? Yes, perfect,Yeah. So I was he in Shanghai
when you met him? Yes?We managed right, yeah, because yeah,
and how does an Irish fellow convinceyou that's a good idea? Come
on come back to Ireland with me, because I mean imagine this culture shop
was like okay, there's just cows, that's it. Nothing. Yeah,

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but it's really funny, like becausetwo thousand and ten I went to Ireland
for the first time for a job. So I was working I was working
at TV station as a host andwe were filming in Ireland as a travel
show. Oh yeah, so thatthat was my first time. Then two

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loud and fourteen in Shanghai I metmy husband. Then I was like,
oh, you're Irish that I've beento Ireland, Like it's so hard to
meet an Irish person in China becauselike you've been to Ireland and then you
really liked the country, then youwant to talk about this country with somebody,
but nobody here, like people herethey don't know anything about Ireland,

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Like people know, what would they? Yeah, and most people still think
it's like England, you know,like that kind of thing. Yeah.
So yeah, So I mean husbandwas like, oh, you're Irish.
Then I was like, I've beento That's how we started talking. Yeah,
right right, and then he hadto explain hurling to you, and

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you're like what Yeah, I waslike what And they don't get paid,
Like yeah, yeah, they almostkill each other and they don't get paid.
Eighty people will go and watch themand pay tickets, but they still
don't get paid. I know.That's like unbelievable for me, Like,
especially for Chinese people were very Iwouldn't say materialistic like we are, but

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like most Chinese parents would send theirkids to do some sports only because that
sports has a future would make moneyfor the kids. But that's the only
reason they will ever let their kidsdo sports. Yeah, So going to
Ireland like hurling and gaiet football,it's just something that I just wouldn't understand.

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It's like, wow, you guysare you guys will kind of for
example, you would just like finda job as a teacher because it has
so much so many holidays and youhave time to train, and no matter
what did you study in college,you study like engineering or science whatever,
then you just like, I'm gonnabe a primary school teacher and because I

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want to play the sports that doesn'tpay me at all. That for Chinese
people, it's just like wow,that is very noble and passionate, like
it's really beautiful. But in theother way, it's like how how does
this work? Yeah, it's reallyhard for me to understand. It wouldn't
work anywhere else because you can stayyou see once if you make say county

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level or whatever, you're you're kindof made on a social social level in
your local area forever. Really,that's true. So and your family's pride
immediately is all that matters, becauseit comes becomes very parochial. Other than
that is because they've as you say, like it is, I've never heard
it said as being noble, andit is it is, but they've never
and they were the option was putto them a couple of years ago,

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like did you want a petition togo professionally. We're like nope, and
this is the major players that we'relike, no, it would ruin the
sport. And before you know,then you're they'll be, you know,
they'll be The money would become themain goal rather than actually playing for you
where you're from. So then guyswould start transferring to different counties from more
money. Yea, And they wentno, no, no, And before
we know it is out of controland the whole ethos of the sport it

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will be gone. The sports shouldbe first before money. And it's like,
oh, actually that's kind of cool, fair enough. That's another thing
that ours few always kind of likeimpress me, Like our people don't care
about money at all, not really, no, not like that. Yeah,
that you would have like you werelike, oh, I'm not selling
my soul for a little bit,like for even a lot of money.

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It's it's it's weird. I wasamong some people last night that were wealthy
people, and it still shocks me. It's like, oh, you're okay
to just you know, show yourwealth. It's like, oh right,
that's a bit odd. It feltit's uncomfortable. It's like, you know,
in that moment, it was like, why would you do that?
Why would you be bothered showing you? But this was the scenario that it
was, and it's a very it'sa very un Irish scenario, is what

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it was. But typically, Imean you meet millionaires and you'd never know.
You're like, okay, you're drivinga fourteen year old car. Just
not yeah, it still works.Why would I? Why would I?
Because the feeling too also that wouldcome from British rule from a long time,
whereas you kept your head down belowthe parapet because if you were seen
to have done better, you wouldbe charged more rent on your land essentially,

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So we kind of went, no, no, I'm just gonna stay
in my lane. I'll be allright. And it's it's it's getting less
and less with the conniber Gregors ofthis world. You know, made a
louds of money, you know,but the real the reality is that it's
still kind of frowned upon to beshowing your wealth. It's like it's seen
as a bed a bit grotesque commandNow it weird that like Oreland is like

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way more socialism then yeah, yesthat is funny. Yeah yeah, when
it's yeah capitalism, while it ishere. We allow we allow that in
small sections of the cities. Butrealistically that was the thing my wife noticed
when she moved here. She because, oh, there's there's no class system

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at all here because we're in thereis no We're all the same. You
know, if you have no moneyor you've loads the money, it doesn't
make a difference. You're still supportsthe same team, you still go to
the same but one bar. That'sit. There is no class system whatsoever.
Like true, yeah, which isreally beautiful, Like you guys like
kept it's like staying real, youknow, kind of like that like in

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China. Absolutely we love money.Everybody's like we live for money everybody.
Yes, yeah, we even havethe fun. We have a money god,
Like we have a money god.Yes, money God. So it's
like we are we just love money. So I think in that sense,
when I go to Ireland, likewhat I see is like it's it's such

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a culture shock when people just likereally don't care about money or like,
you know, whatever brands you're wearingyour purse, you know what kind of
brands or purse. Like in China, people would be looking at oh he's
wearing like weave a tombag or youknow, like this kind of stuff.
Yeah, but to know, towhat a veil like, to what do

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you win by being the best dressedin public? You don't really win anything.
Nobody's going high five. Yeah,yeah, I guess in China it's
a little bit like because we werejust thinking about it. In the past
twenty years, most of us werejust elevated to middle class, right we
were. We were kind of poorbefore, you know, but now it's

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like it's a rich country just now. So we're at the stage that everybody's
still kind of like they just gotmoney, and people are still at the
stage of like I'm showing off thatI'm treating myself. A lot of girls
are like, I'm treating myself withthis really expensive bag because I hard,

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you know, like that kind ofthing. Yeah, But for me,
it's like, yeah, I don't, I don't really care, not much
about those. Yeah. It wasfunny. We had that period for about
six years in Ireland between two thousandand two two and we all went crazy
like that. We went skiing,we we did and got all excited.
I think we were all really rich, driving around in range rovers and then

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all of a sudden the recession happened, and you know what, in a
lot of ways, culturally, itwas the best thing ever because we all
went fuck right, yeah, ohyeah, that was stupid, actually,
wasn't it. Yeah? We yeah, yeah, fine, no, no,
no, offendy hand. No,no, that's fine. It's fine.
We don't need Gucci sunglasses. It'sfine, it's fine. I don't
know if you watch Louise c K'sThe Governor Clubs that that's special that was

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not released that he was talking aboutselling a golden watch. I don't know
if you remember, oh yes,no, no, no, I don't.
I don't, but I know thatwhen you're running, yeah, he's
like selling gold watch. He waslike, it was like, that's just
the most stupid idea of buying it, Like I should have a gold and
watch, like you know, whenyou're setting people are like, people know

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you're broke. Yes, I rememberthat. Yeah, it's funny, Yeah,
yeah I do. My in lawswere at a they were in they
were somewhere in China years ago,a couple of maybe twelve or thirteen years
ago. I remember them telling me, and they were invited. It was
through friends there from Dublin who wereChinese and they said, would you come

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to this party? And they knewhim for years, would you come?
It's going to It was somebody's birthdayparty, like a grandmother's eightieth birthday party,
and it was in this big,big restaurant and they were like,
well, what do we do?What do you bring an eighty year rold
for her birthday? Do you knowwhat I mean? Like New Ireland,
it's a fucking scarf your brain?All right? All money? Right?

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What do you mean? All money? They were just just all just give
her some money. It's what's aneight year old going to do with the
money, Like it doesn't matter,just give her money, Like okay,
they got it, and that's whatit was. It was just everybody just
kind of like, oh, here'san envelope with some money, nanna like
nice one. And it was justthis huge, big floating restaurant, not
a riverwhere that's what was here.They felt guilty because they were like,

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well, there's nothing personal, Likeit's the same as if everybody, the
same present as everybody gave. Yetlike it was absolutely nothing personal in it,
and they felt guilty. They're likeold money, Okay, that's what
you want. But they wanted todo you know what I mean. They
wanted to do something personal from theirpoint of view, but nope, Nana
wants money. That's all three months. It's like, okay, what's she
going to the strip club or something? What does Nana want money? Part

(29:17):
put Yeah, that's the thing,a red antelope. That's how I'm saying.
It's yeah, it's call homebaw solike Chinese New Year you give kids
that, and Wedding Day you givethe couples that. It's like the It's
like what Irish people put money inthe cards. That's our parts. But
you don't write. You don't writeanything. You just like put things out

(29:38):
in the home bows. It representsgood luck, okay, yeah, and
it represents tame, it represents taxavoidance. But it looks at things.
Yeah, exactly, exactly. Yeah. So when did when did you how
long when did you take up standup or when did you take up comedy?

(29:59):
I should say I've always been reallyreally like, I just love comedy.
I watched so much stand up comedy. So I started in China,
started off translating, subtitling Western comedyuh right posts on social media, and
I got some followers. Then twentytwenty nineteen, I did this funny wedding

(30:25):
speech. Okay, and uh thatwas obviously at our wedding, and I
did a funny speech. Then Iposted it on Chinese social media and just
went absolutely viral. Then and that'sbrilliant. Yeah. Then that's when people
are like, you really should justdo stand up com you should try it

(30:47):
at least. Yeah, because oneof my friends, he's uh, he's
a pretty well known Chinese comedian,so he was like, let me sign
you up. Then he signed meup open mic. Then that's how I
started brilliant. Yeah, that's nice. Nice that somebody actually put because you
know, it's kind of a lonewolf scenario that somebody actould put their arm

(31:07):
around. They went, no,you should give it a goal, and
here I'll get you started, youknow, because stand around the back of
the room kind of going okay,I'll give it a goal, and nobody's
giving you any encouragement because yeah,for you basically, and and it's also
kind of like and also everybody thinkthey can do it, like a lot
of people. Yeah, a lotof people like especially when they're watching an

(31:29):
open mic. Then they're like,oh, there's a lot of people are
really shitty up there, like Ican't do better? Like that's how you
feel. That's why people sign upfor comedy. Then they sign up,
then they go off upstage. Thenthey're like they did terrible and then they're
like, Okay, it's not thateasy. Yeah, but you feel like
you're gonna s grow up. Youknow, it's just you're nervous. Lights

(31:51):
are too bright, you know,you can't see anybody. You're like,
why aren't they laughing? It's justlike that kind of stuff. Yeah,
there was. It doesn't make anyif you put it in somebody's head.
You're like, oh no, wewant you to stand up there for a
lot of time, make strangers laughwho are sitting in the dark, and
you're the brightly litt one. Doesthat sound a good idea? And you're
like, no, that sounds likea terrible idea. I know, I

(32:13):
know. Yeah, And have youhave you like, did you get a
chance to do any stand up whenyou were here? I'm not no.
Actually, uh this summer I wentto Ireland. Then I kind of contacted
a few comedy clubs that too,I didn't even try. I instagram DMed
two clubs. Then one of themcall the crack Dane, the krack Dan.

(32:36):
Oh, the crack Dan. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they
responded then they said, oh,we don't actually don't have any spots,
like would you send would you sendus one of like your work or anything
like that. So I send themmy my stand up link. Then they're
like, oh, we know you. We watched your stand up Yeah yeah,
yeah, And I was like,oh, that's great. Then they
said, actually we do have awe do have a spot like July twenty

(32:59):
nine or something. I said,no, I can't do it because my
sister sister in law's wedding is thattime. Yes, So I was like
I can and then they said,but we have one spot in like Christmas,
like Dismember. So I think Iwill try that. I will try
that this time when we go backto Ireland for Christmas. Yeah. That's

(33:20):
a lovely club. It's right inthe city center too. Yeah, it's
yeah. The boys Eddie and DamianDemo have that. It's a nice,
nice spot and they have the greatthing about it. I think if you
like, if you're there over theweekend, I think they've they're running four
or five shows over the weekend,so you could get in all five.
Yeah, you could get in there, all five of them. You know.
It's a it's a nice spot.It's it's exploded again here in Ireland

(33:43):
since after lockdowns and all that.Clubs everywhere everywhere, Yeah, even in
like rural places now like I've openedthe club here all right, christ It's
sold out every single month. It'sridiculous. And about to open another one
just city. So it's yeah,it's taken off huge. I don't know.

(34:04):
I guess people people were just lockedin for that long and all they
did was watch every comedy special.I'm not into comedy. Yeah, that's
very interesting because I think normally wheneconomy is going down, people are more
into entertainment for some reason, likemovies, entertainment, showbiz. It's always

(34:24):
booming when economy is going down.That's interesting, isn't it. Yeah,
I've ever reading that before. It'slike it makes sense though. People need
that, they will pick me up. It's like to buying that handbag for
yourself. I deserved. Its true. Yeah, that's what's the comedy's comedy
seem like in Shanghai they m it'svery interesting. So in China doing comedy,

(34:51):
you you have doing license legal comedy, you have to submit your script.
I'm not talking about TV. Likesure, a lot of places you
go go on TV you do likefive minutes bit you have to submit your
script and you know, make sureyou don't have cursing or anything like that.
But like this is I'm talking aboutjust like offline even open mics,

(35:15):
you need to submit your script ascript, Yes, like you need to
write what if you don't all yourjokes, all your jokes, You write
it down and you video recording youyourself reading it out. Then you submit
it, submit it to who It'scalled Cultural and Travel Bureau. So they

(35:38):
are in charge in charge of allthe entertainment, show biz and all those
contents, all the all those stuff. Yeah, so you have to submit
to them and they vet it andthen they're like, okay, these scripts
are fine. Just you know,don't say anything. Yeah, you can't
say fuck shit. It's like theseven words, you know, it's like

(35:59):
the George Carlin's seven words. Youcan't say any obviously, and you can
there's so many things you can't say. Then you can't speak ill of China
clearly obviously. No, No,for sure, not for sure. Not
so most people. Yeah, that'slicense show. Wow if if one day

(36:21):
they found out that, you know, one of your comedians says something that's
out of the script I'm talking about. The content could be just safe,
you know, the content could bejust safe, but it's not submitted,
then they can find the club fora lot of moneys. Yeah this is
not crazy. Yeah okay, yeah, I would never get a gig in

(36:44):
Shanghai. I think that's the problem. You don't see a lot of international
comedians come into China to perform,like they go to Hong Hng, but
they don't. They don't come toin the mainland. Yeah. Do you
know what just because I'm told,because you're telling me it's difficult, Now

(37:04):
I want to do it. Now, I want to submit a script and
everything. Yeah. Well it's basically, you know, just clean material.
You know, if you're gonna cometo China, like depends on how how
long you want to do. Youwant to do a headliner or spotlight show,
right, maybe thirty minutes, thenjust prepare thirty minutes. Yeah.
Wow, But I love the notionis submitting it like it's what Jesus,

(37:30):
I didn't think that there was thatthere was obviously I knew there was that
level of control and interest because evenwe were talking by by message over going
we might have to use Microsoft Teamsdown because Zoom might be a little dug.
Yeah, and even even I noticedright as we started recording, I
noticed, first time in three yearsof using Zoom, I noticed my screen

(37:51):
on my side here just started flashingfor about three seconds. Never seen them
before, Yeah, I never seenit before. Yeah, yeah, I
hope we're getting tapped into right now. I feel now they don't have control
over Zoom though, So that's fine. No, No, I think Zoom
is out of the deadlands or someplacelike that. Yeah, that's so interesting.

(38:14):
And you're allowed then to so Isuppose from a personal point of view,
then when you put up your weddingvideo, could that potentially be pulled
down? Like that's fine, that'stotally fine. The wedding video is totally
fine because that is not a gig. That it's not a paid gig or
anything. That's your private that's yourwedding. That's fine. Yeah. No,
maybe we should just get you dressedup in a wedding dress and just

(38:36):
get you gigging, gigging wherever youwant, saying what everyone going on something
a lot. Yeah, this isa different time. This was a long
wedding. It was a long weddingevery weekend. I'm marrying every weekend.
Yeah, that's incredible. Wow,But you like, like because I mean,
I don't believe the lads in theCracked En will require a script.

(39:00):
Oh yeah, I was amazing ifthey sentiment what is what? Now you
cannot talk about how small you're ahusband's penis is? You know, it's
like that kind of thing. Butthat's it. You won't get Yeah,
because the the the and the greatthing, like because clearly, see I
knew when I was watching when ohshe has some background in it had to

(39:22):
be something you in production of somesort, because you can dig about whatever
you want when you're you know,making your own skate. But I was
like, oh, this is reallywell cut together, like you know,
especially like the two chatting with chattingwith each other, brilliant, nice and
fast and finished with a good punchline. And then even the milking the cows
one where you went milking the cowsgreat, it was honestly, you should

(39:43):
submit it all. Part of youshould submit that to like ear to the
ground. It's a TV show hereagricultural TV show that I guarantee your Tom
your father in law loves Yeah,maybe leave off the punchline at the very
end. Maybe leave that off.Okay, leaping in and see what they
say. I'm not ruining the people, but it finished. The sketch is
how sketch? A lot of peoplemiss that point in a sketch, it's

(40:05):
still supposed to be a joke throughout. Yeah, with a punchline at the
end. A lot of people justlet their sketch sketches peter out, whereas
you have a punchline at the endof yours, which was perfect, Like,
that's exactly exactly what you're supposed tosay at the very end of it.
I would love to see you hearto the ground. Okay, we
have one in from a Chinese ladywho's farming down in the west. Let's

(40:27):
watch it here now, Yeah,she's really getting it. Lets let's see
how Oh god, Yeah, Ithink a lot of people were are A
lot of Irish people were really laughingabout that video. I think it's perfect
fish out of water stuff, like, yes, you know, it's like
in China on social media, yousee all this viral like foreigner like x

(40:51):
pads viral videos on social media.It's always this like a foreigner in China
trying some super spicy food would oryou know like those kind of like experience
stuff. It's kind of similar.People will people like to see somebody from
a totally different culture to try somethingthat you're familiar with. Yeah, or

(41:13):
the one the one I see themost like that is like, do you
know a guy who looks like mesitting in a restaurant speaking perfect perfect,
like actually with it, with thedialect and an accent and everything, you
know, like yeah, in thatand that seems I suppose it would blow
you away from all your life you'venever met somebody who can speak the exactly

(41:34):
but the guy has their accent andeverything. So they're like, what,
how did you know? So it'sjust I personally, I think the New
Milk and Cows was far more,so far superior because it was because when
would an Irish person ever see that? You know what I mean? Like,
we do have South Africans, wehave Australians farming here like and stuff,
but you will never get somebody fromChina gun right, true. I

(41:57):
was thinking what's next? And Ido want to Christmas. I don't know
what what else I could do?Yeah, well there's surely attractor that can
let you drive. Oh, Ineed you gotta do something with a tractor.
I need you don't no, nono, no no no. You
can drive it on the farm withtheir with their permission. You can drive
it on the farm. It's nota public property. Yeah, don't worry

(42:19):
about that. We've made loads ofsketches with friends who couldn't drive anything attractors.
Don't worry about it. That's cool, don't worry about it. I
try it, im, I tryit. Actually, Yeah, it's the
perfect opportunity, like it's yeah,dawn drives, it dries another irish silliness
down hurdles. That's what we wantto see. Actually wanted to Yeah,

(42:40):
don't don't place hurling. I trieda little bit, you know, hurling.
It's so hard. I like,it's just ridiculous. But the first
time I was watching it, Iwas like, how do people even manage
to see the ball? Like it'sso small, it's like traveling in that
speed and so far away they justcatch it. How do you even do

(43:00):
that? So I tried it intomy husband's yard and I tried. I
tried catching the ball. It hurtsyour hands full badly, like I was
ridiculous. You Yeah, it's amazing. One of the best hurdlers in the
country is actually half Chinese. Yeah. I watched her. Yeah, he

(43:22):
should never ever ever wear a shortever again. The man has the body
of a god. He picks ashort, you know after a match.
You see sometimes the guy swapped jerseysand stuff like leech In. Why would
you wear a shirt when you looklike that. He's got this like eight
pack. It's just a small ridiculousYeah, but I would, I would
have. It's well, it's wellworth looking at leech In with no short

(43:44):
on. Trust me, it's it'san impressive setup. Rolling next, No,
you left it in. The governmentwon't won't allow it. I'm sorry,
the government won't allow leach In.No, I need to submit my
googling script first. Oh god,yeah it does. Yeah, it's it's

(44:07):
always hard because I love the notionthat comedies because just like that we're bringing
comedy to the you know, withthe club here and stuff, there's people
coming up going I never never thoughtscenes, you know, stand up comedy
was never on their radar. Likeone old guy described it. I thought
the comedians the same way I thinkof astronauts. I don't care, or
I never cared. I just assumedthey were there. But now I absolutely

(44:30):
love stand up, you know,the kind of way, and to hear
that at least like you're saying inShanghai that it's okay, it's a little
you know, it's you do have. Eventually that will fade away surely as
well, you know what I meanto a point or do you see it?
Just going and see that comedy Andalso you know, for me as
the audience are also how do yousay, they're trained to watch filtered stuff,

(44:55):
so you can I can see overthe years a lot of audience they
start to get more and more likethey can get offended by anything, Like
it's getting tighter, like if you'retalking about like some people say, oh
American, like the woe culture orwhatever, like you can't say a lot
of things. You can't fan people. But in China, that's that's next

(45:17):
level for me. Like comedy,if you watch it, you can see
like people will get offended by likeif you make joke about single people and
they're like, how dare you makejokes about single people, it's like what
what what are you talking about?Yeah, so it's like people as people
are like watching they they're so usedto watching so filtered content. Then they

(45:43):
start to then they just can't tolerateany anything that's not even I wouldn't even
call it edgy, you know,like they would just like get offended by
like simple jokes like making fun ofsingle people. Yeah, it's like that
kind of stuff. So anything outsidethere, they're like, no, not
for me, Yeah, not forme, because I like sometimes I like

(46:04):
to do a little bit like darkerjokes, like even I would, I
would tone it down way more forChinese audience. But they're still like,
of course, like how how didyou just how why did you say that?
They're like they can't even Yeah,so it's you. I can notice
that change over the years for sure. So getting tighter and tighter. Yeah,

(46:28):
that's interesting because you think it wouldgo although in saying that, it's
it got tight and tight here fora while, not that I probably did
myself no favors because I absolutely refused. I was like, this isn't natural,
by the way, and this willall flip back the other way,
and everybody like I have older friendslike produce, you know, theater producers
and stuff like that. Working Jesus, we have we can't say this now

(46:49):
in a in a play, wecan't say I went it'll all flip back.
It's not natural for humans to bethis bound up, and they're getting
angry about things that aren't actually worthgetting angry about. Yeah, and like
I used to do a bit ajoke or I said, if you get
stressed about words, you've clearly neverbeen knocked out with a punch, because
that's a real att that's a realattitude adjuster. You wake up going okay,

(47:12):
yeah, I don't give a shitabout anything anymore. That's you know.
And but you can see it now, it's all starting to melt away
again because people it's not it's notnatural for people to be that bound up
now said China is in a verydifferent place politically than Ireland is. But
at the same time, there wasa lot of the narratives were a government
controlling thing, you know, theywere you could see it from like when

(47:35):
you have you know, a criticaleye and you write material and stuff,
so you have to stand back andlook at it from an you know,
an aerial point of view. Gohold on. That thought process is coming
straight from the top and kids arecoming out with this rubbish now and all
of a sudden they're scared. Yeah. But anytime I've ever been approached after
after a show, I'm like offthe clock. I'm off the clock night.

(47:57):
Yeah, but I have a problem, Like you know what, you
can do it a problem thought stopit back into your pocket. That thing
because Irish people, for me,Irish people are like probably has the best
sense of humor. Like I feellike Irish people are probably one of the
best crowd in the world because ofthat. Oh yeah, lburg Are also
said the same thing, right,like you guys, your sense of humor

(48:19):
just like next level. So forme, like what kind of jokes Irish
people will get offended? For like, like the truth of it is,
it's such a small amount. There'snotion that all God woke and cancel and
everything. And I kept on sayingaway, it's nobody. Nobody's actually offended.
It's the Emperor's new clothes. Thereis nobody, And if there is,
it's such a small number. Yeahthat people probably with mental problems who

(48:45):
are on the internet. Because inthe thousands of people I would play to
you know, every couple of months, it's nobody in an audience, and
sure ship, that's almost nobody thatwill come up to you. But that's
so true. You'd see it.You'd see it like people don't care.
People care about can they pay themortgage and what's for dinner tomorrow? That's
it and anything like the darker thebetter in a lot of ways, once

(49:07):
you once you buttered up night,like if you come straight out like a
sledgehammer it's not funny, then fairenough. But people they don't care,
they don't care. Like last night, the brand new host of the show,
The Late Late Show, which isyou know, a long running show,
Patrick Keithley, who was a comic, I went on just before him,
and he in fairness, i'd donethe tech rehearsal on Tuesday night and

(49:29):
I went, oh, they're lettingme off here a little bit because it
didn't give me any guidelines. Justwent, look, Tom, you know
yourself, you know yourself. It'sTV show, it's a government owned TV
show, even though it won't bebroadcast. I'm just the warm up.
But then he comes out, hecomes out, and because there's been a
bit of the scandal over the paymentof the previous post. He comes out

(49:50):
and just airs all the laundry onnational live on national television would brilliantly written
jokes. He just comes out andgoes, oh, brilliant every and you
see all the market. All theexecutives in the green room where I was
standing were like, oh Jesus,Oh Jesus. They're like, well,
you signed the guy up for asee two seasons and you signed the contracts.
Yeah, so he obviously signed up. Went if you're going to put

(50:10):
any color on me or any anyyou know, you're going to try and
gag me in any way, Iain't doing it. Because I was talking
to how did you get away withit? And he went, I told
him, I'm the captain of everythingI say and they can't pull me on
anything. Was all right, okay, how did the audience readd to that?
At first it was like, ohJesus, are we allowed to laugh

(50:31):
at this? You know, Butfor the first couple of seconds and then
they really they just started rolling thelast because he just kept on layer,
laying it on going. I ain'tstop him for the next three or four
minutes. So, and in fairness, I had pushed it a little for
him earlier too, because I waslike, I want to see what they
can go, what what will takehim? An idea that you're going to

(50:53):
be laughing. Trust me, it'sall in the faith. It's all in
the name of good humor. There'syou know. And he did, and
he in fairness, he thanked meafterwards because thanks for digging into because I
went after him a little harder thanI probably should have. But again,
nobody said Tom, because they haven'tme. You know, I'm back for
the next few weeks. They didn'tgo, right, Tom, you can
go home. Yeah they didn't.It was so but I'm definitely noticing.

(51:16):
I think people are kind of lookthere. For the longest time, they
were looking left and right to seewas or are they getting? Defense are
they getting? And who The onlypeople that would ever get angry would be
is if a company night, youknow, a company was out and like
somebody from HR, like some middleaged woman from HR, was sitting at
the end of the row, going, oh, I don't think we can

(51:36):
say it. It's he allowed tosay that, And everybody's like yeah,
because it's funny. It doesn't matter. These are just words. But now
more and more you go to Northof Ireland where I mean the comedy scene
for such a it's only four hundredthousand people, four or five hundred thousand
people in North of Ireland. WHIwould be its own thing. And every

(51:58):
comic I know is selling arenas sellingout arenas now three four or five thousand
people. And it's like because comedyhas like it is bigger than religion,
sport, everything now stand up comedy. It's on a level that's so ridiculous.
And the darker you can go,I mean, the darker you can
go, that's what people want becausethey're like, we've we've seen they you

(52:22):
know, they had war for thirtyyears and horrific things happen, so they're
like, we've seen the worst ofactual stuff. So you know your words
you go for you go for itthe dark as shit you want to say,
and it doesn't matter. They asdark as you can go, as
disgusting as it can go, itdoesn't matter. You probably need more like
one of those more edgy and darkerjokes just to impress those people too,

(52:45):
because they've seen everything. Yes,yeah, everything, Yeah, that's exactly
it. Yeah, Yeah, yougo soft and soft and stack pandering about
what's to do with airplane food.They're like, don't give a shit about
airplane food. Come on, youknow. Even I've noticed myself when I
go up there, it's like,all right, trying to step up the
trying to rough up the edges here, and people appreciate it. They don't

(53:06):
care. Last time I walked onstage, it was about a month ago.
I was up there and as Iwas walking to the stage, this
middle aged woman, in kind ofa not a gross way, but kind
of an encouraging way, she slappedme across the ass. She was like,
go get him time, Like okay, oh, did I just get
me too? I think it wasthe first thing I said. But no,

(53:28):
I was like, she allowed todo that because I don't mind.
Should I be Should I be upset? Should I call somebody? Should I
tweet about this? Should I?He was like, yeah, you tweet
about that? You're bitch? Likeokay, what's the probably a little,
you know, but it was justshe was a she was a rough bit

(53:49):
rough. She bought a ticket.I don't care. Yeah, you know,
she slapped my ass again. Ifyou want, I don't care.
It doesn't make a difference. Andit gave me my first the first two
minutes to talk. You know.So it's interesting culturally how things like coming
from your point of view. It'svery very because I didn't know, because
I know guys that have gone andon festivals in Hong Kong, you know,

(54:13):
which is Lucy Goosey by comparison towhat you're telling me, very very
interesting. Yeah, like a lotof comedians went to Hong Kong to perform.
Yeah, I remember there was onetime Russell Peters came to Hong Kong.
Did he came to I don't evenremember if he came to Shanghai or
not. But who's that? Ah? You know the Irish guy, the

(54:43):
Irish guy. There's bishop No,No, not him. Oh, I
really like him. But actually I'mforgetting his name. Black Black Book,
the Black Book Store. Dylan moreYeah, yeah, yeah, Dylan Moren
came to Shanghai. Did he Iwant to see him? Yeah? And

(55:04):
how I suppose yeah, because buthe didn't he didn't do any He didn't
do any of those like the scriptsubmitting and all those. I don't think
the club who got him there didany of those. And actually his show
was pretty uh, his show waspretty much interrupted. I remember like he

(55:28):
just wrapped it up really quickly becauseI think the police were coming or wow,
yeah, I remember, that's adream of mine that I'm saying something
so wild that the police show up. I'm like, wow, yeah they
didn't. They didn't show up,show up. But I heard either the
show got reported or something like that. I don't, I don't, actually
I don't remember. But he hadto wrap it up really really fast because

(55:52):
the show were kind of kind ofon the ground. But even like his
materials are like mostly very very clean. Yeah, yes, yeah, his
subject matters are clean. They areclean, yeah, very clean. And
I can tell he was struggling withthe Chinese crowd because first of all,
he didn't expect that he had thismuch of fans in China. You're right,

(56:16):
yeah, you wouldn't know, youknow, no. But then he
was like all these people show upfor me that he just like started to
tell his jokes. I think thefirst half was like very new materials,
and people were a lot of peopleweren't laughing. I think one one point,

(56:37):
I can tell how confused he lookedlike he was, why aren't they
laughing? But I was just thinking, you don't have here there they're just
here to see you. Their Englishlevel probably is like pretty low, like
they're just sitting here to see youbecause they love you. Yeah, but
by they can tell form of comediansperspect he's standing up there. Oh my

(57:00):
god, this crowd hate me,like they fucking hate me. But no,
like they I think half of themcouldn't understand. And especially his jokes
are so brilliantly written, you know, it's like profound and all that.
So it's it's I think it's hardfor a lot of people to understand and
follow a follow really you know quickly. So, uh, second half,

(57:24):
he he went down to have liketen minutes rest. Second half he came
up and he was very much tellingold jokes, okay, and I think
first half he was also even tryingto slow down, Yeah understand where but
second half he's like, I'm justgonna do my old jokes that he's doing

(57:45):
in the normal speed, and maybealso because he's rushing to wrap it up.
So people were like laughing, likelike the second half was great,
yeah, but I can tell howrefused he was, like he was really
confused. Yeah, okay, Iremember doing gigging in Barcelona and it was

(58:07):
a whole like it was kind ofa square, you know, it was
a club, but there was kindof three sides around the stage of maybe
I suppose ten by ten by tenand this whole row of ten people.
They just looked solidly at me,and everybody else seemed to be enjoying the
time. But I was still fiveminutes in. They were just staring,
yeah, staring at me. Iknow those is ever because everybody around him

(58:29):
seemed to be on board and havinga good time. I was like,
is ever, no, kay,here are you security or what is it?
And the guy I was looking atme, he was like okay,
I went, or do you speakin English? And they just started speaking
Spanish amongst each other. Then theguy behind and went, I don't think
they speak in What the fuck areyou doing the front row? Yeah,
we don't know. We just wejust wanted to come out to see who.

(58:52):
Basically, I'm like, yeah,but you could have sat in the
background and seen me. I gotto look at your faces for the next
fifteen minutes. Yeah. That happensa lot actually, because I have a
lot of followers here in China andsometimes do I do shows, people are
just here to watch me. Theydon't. They don't really understand. So
a lot of times they're sitting therejust like this, just like just the

(59:14):
stairs. Then I'm just like thesepeople hate me. But then after the
show they're like, oh, welove you. Can we take a picture
and all that. I'm like,okay, but you know, tell me
by your face, yes, don'tstop. Don't let her face stop it.
What happened? Are they onto usnow? I don't know. I

(59:35):
think it's my because in China theinternet, you know, you have to
use VPN, So oh yeah,I think that just broke off. So
I'm a twenty seven million, twentyseven million people in the one city all
wanting the Internet. I know.Yeah, it's not easy. Yeah,

(59:57):
I have just a couple of singlefarmers. I'm dating with sites around here
just to compete with it. Soit's fine. Look, I just in
case, Well, do you knowwhat, I won't take up too much
more. I know it's late,it's like, it's must be honest,
midnight, I'm a night out.I sleep really late, all fair enough,
but I won't. Look, Iwon't take up any many time.
So you are back at Christmas?You are back at Christmas? Yeah,

(01:00:21):
hopefully gonna catch on on the crackend, but you do so follow Dawn.
It's down Wong, isn't it?Because I just had you's down Wong?
But it is down't Wong? YouTubeis don't want TikTok's Donnie the Chinese?
Yeah, brilliant, brilliant. I'llput it. I'll put a link
to that one. And I wantpeople to immediately go to see Dawn milking
cows. Thanks, yes, youthat's worth seeing. And I want I

(01:00:44):
want you to repost it because wewant to get down on Maybe when you're
back at Christmas, we might getear to the ground or nationwide down to
interview you and get you maybe drivingtractors. Yeah, yeah, I will.
Yeah, let's watch the Chinese womankeep or something. I don't know.

(01:01:07):
But you use the shish there allright, it's a shearing sheep with
a shellfish steak. Yeah, youbetter sharpened the scoffish steak. Yeah,
it's so it's so hard, youknow. It's really funny because I noticed
every time I come to Ireland late, like in like especially like this time,
for example, I will meet likeolder people and then will say,

(01:01:30):
hey, you're English, got betterthe old Well you're Irish English got better.
Yeah, exactly, Irish English gotbetter. Yeah, because you're because
I've been meeting older people, I'mlike, ah, how are you to
keeping I have been saying things olderpeople would say, so they're like,

(01:01:52):
you're English got better. I'm like, no, it's not. Yeah,
And they always give my husband thecredit. They're always kind of like,
your English got better. It isbecause of your husband. Yeah, nothing
to do with the fact that you'retrying to make it better yourself. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, No, itdoesn't matter that I started learning.

(01:02:13):
I don't get overly awed by likepeople get all excited about, you know,
the American stuff, and I've donethe American thing. I lived there
for a while and stuff like that. But it was so many places.
I don't get put. Always alwaysbeen super interested in China, just always
wanted to go. I mean,there's obviously China. It's really interesting.
It's really nice, especially Shanghai.It's so nice to live in, like

(01:02:36):
the lifestyle, everything, it's justone of the best. The my was
it Shanghai. A friend of mine, Jim, he's a comic. He's
an American comic. He lives here, he's lived here forever. But his
wife they travel like they travel everywhere. They go the most obscure holidays.
But they were in China recently andthey were taking photographs at some that's just

(01:03:00):
something that you take photos that youtake photographs of. Are you there?
Yeah? Oh you are you are? Where did that skip away? Oh?
Sorry it was It was recording theother part perfect, It was downloading
the previous but they were they werethey were taking photographs as you do,

(01:03:23):
of whatever monument they were in frontof. And what happened was Chinese people
became very The locals became very interestedin Lisa, my Jim's wife, because
she was the only blonde hair,blue eyed person there. So now they
wanted photographs with her. She waslike, because Jim, Jim almost has
a sallow look, you know,he is kind of Italian American look,

(01:03:44):
so it's like dark hair, nothinginteresting for a Chinese person because it's like
you're not that far. But Lisa, they were like, we want to
photograph with you. Okay, shedoes look very very Nordic, even if
even she looks quite Scandinavian. They'rereally just blond hair, blue eyes,
you know. Whatever. The Shaithough, no, it wasn't Shanghai.

(01:04:06):
It wasn't Shanghai, but somewhere inChina. People in Shanghai, they're so
used to seeing foreigners. Yes,of course, they're just like so used
to it. Yeah, but itwas But again, as Jim he showed
me the video of it, whenhe looked around, he was like,
oh, yes, we are theonly foreigners here. Totally wow, yeah,

(01:04:27):
totally, Like there was hundreds ofpeople and they were clearly the only
people who weren't Asian anyway, that'sfor sure. So, but before aren't
really outgoing in that way, LikeI'm I always say Chinese, we were
introverted, but they're really outgoing inthat way. Like when they see foreigners,
they're they're very happy to like welcome, they welcome everybody. They welcome

(01:04:53):
people who are from different culture thanthey're so interested, like we are very
interested in people who world from differentbackground or culture and just desperate to show
them like how how how how tosay how warm Chinese people are? Yes,
yeah, but I mean for thevast culture that there is there,

(01:05:15):
you don't even for how much historyand everything in China, you almost don't
even need to chat to foreign peoplebecause there's that much stuff. Good God,
and it's huge. It's more kindof like we want to show other
people. Yeah, yeah, wewant to show other people like we want
them to have a great time inChina. And also also too, I

(01:05:36):
suppose given the I suppose the I'mtrying to choose my words correctly, the
the position that the government has,I guess the general public kind of want
to go, oh no, no, no, no, we're cool,
We're fine, We're really fun andwarm. People come on, you know,
you would you could absolutely see happeninglike this is for the longest.

(01:05:59):
Yeah. I think at one pointis you know, Chinese people, or
most Chinese people, I would say, are fine with how the garments are
run like it's run here. They'revery total, They're totally fine. But
like, as a person, Isometimes I find myself like in between,
right, I'm Western nice and I'malso I was born raised here, yes

(01:06:24):
so, and I love all theWestern culture and also I love my own
country. But then I look atyou know, sometimes if you look at
like Western media reporting things about China, I'm like, what, that's not
even like I've never even that's nottrue. You know, like this kind
of there's a lot of this kindof miss. How would I say,

(01:06:45):
it's not even misunderstanding, it's justlike miss, it's kind of like that
we felt like we're misrepresented in alot of way. Yeah, but like
especially coming to reporting of a lotof culture things in China or whatever,
like political things, like we don'treally like Chinese people don't really read a

(01:07:08):
lot about it. But I thinkWestern media don't always don't always show the
right the true side of China sometimes. Oh for sure, you could sometimes
that we're reading a Yeah, Iwould be reading an article. Then I'm
like, this is completely not true, Like this is not like they would
say something about Chinese people or whatever, like it's just completely not true.

(01:07:32):
Like when I work in film industry, documentary industry, and sometimes I would
have like foreign production come into Chinaand they will always want me to show
them like the places that Chinese peopledon't even go, and then they would
go there to film, then theyshow then I will see you later on

(01:07:53):
on like a Western media TV orsomething. It's just like, no,
that's not even Yeah, it's justkind of weird in a way. So
I think Chinese people sometimes are alittle bit too desperate sometimes just want just
wanting to show Western people like thebest side of us. Sometimes it's interesting

(01:08:14):
how how how the West like isit's not the standard bearer is not the
right word, but it's almost it'sit's almost like so many other nationalities from
whether it's the Middle East or theFiriest or whatever, there seems to be
almost an effort to go, no, we're really good. Where's my opinion?

(01:08:34):
You should just not care whatever whateveryou do do you we've been doing
us for like ten thousand years.It's fine, it's fine, We're we've
been doing this a long time.They were okay, we were, you
know, but I suppose that.I mean, when we speak Western culture,
it is americanisms is what we're talkingabout. Really, like, you

(01:08:56):
know, we're just waiting. Itkind of withers me here in Ireland when
I hear Irish kids coming out withAmerican you know, and getting overly interested
in American politics, I'm like,they don't care about our politics, So
why in the christ? I know, it's an interesting story, Pete,
you know, to see Joe Bidenbumbling over sentences and whatever, but why
do you care? Yeah, youknow, it just seems to be a

(01:09:18):
very easy thing for Irish people,especially to lap up because we're right next
door to America. But America doesn'tcare about us, so why would you
care about what they have to say? Like because half of America still thinks
we're wandering around in the dark onlyhoping for electricity, you know. Yeah,
that's that's sometimes I go to uh, like Western countries and peep the

(01:09:40):
questions people ask me. I'm justlike, where did you even read about
that? Where did you even learnabout that? Like people would ask me
really weird questions like oh, thisChina has like slippers. I'm like,
we make them, bitch like that, we make all your slippers. Pretty
much look around your Look if Ilooked all around my studio right now,

(01:10:04):
pretty much ninety eight percent of thingshere probably came from a district somewhere in
China, you know, right,Like people asking questions like, oh,
you live on the thirtiest floor,do you have an elevator? Like I'm
like, what, no, No, I climbed up on a rope.
It's it's what I mean, that'swhat we call gym. Yeah, that's

(01:10:25):
my stairs. Like it's really it'sreally interesting, And I find what Irish
people always ask me this, Oh, how's weather in China. I'm like,
this, that's a big gass country. Don't take that personally. It's
like I know, I know,it's are number the number one. Yeah,

(01:10:45):
it's snowing in a lot of itand really hot in the other bit
of it. Because that's how bigof a country it is. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, people don't cry. But then again, in Ireland you
can have four seasons one day.So and you know, I your husband
is your husband's from the West ofIreland, which just has sideways rain all
the time. So it's coming inoff the Atlantic. You guys always say

(01:11:08):
you had like summer summer. I'mlike, that's not summer. You can't
where Yeah we had. We hadtwo weeks of summer and that's it.
We have no more. It gotto twenty six degrees for two weeks and
that's it. We're back to therain now in twelve degrees. So that's
why you always talk about weather allthe time. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

(01:11:28):
it's because it is so changing,like there's but I mean like that
when I say, when I livedin American the amount of times I got
complimented for how good my English was, Like, oh, thank you.
Thank you. I've been trying reallyhard and Jesus. Yeah, and that's
where they're at, you know,for so many parts because they and even
from state to state, you getit like that. But the same in

(01:11:50):
England. You go to England andthey're like, you meet people in England,
their media is so closed off andone sided that they will say the
most lud Chris, Like, I'vehad people who listen to this podcast go,
would I be safe if I wentto Ireland for you know, because
I've got an English accent, likewhat half of English? Half of Ireland
is English people now because they've allescaped the English set up to move here,

(01:12:13):
you know, an open pitching zoom. They might call you like British
cons or something. Yeah they won't, they won't. Yeah, but it's
but it is media like it doesclose its doors, you know, and
it's like, well, it's justan easy narrative to run with the same
old thing we've been saying about Chinafor years, because heaven forbid we'll try

(01:12:34):
and say something regressive for new aboutit, because you know, we'd actually
have to put in some work andgo there for a few weeks, you
know what I mean. Yea.So it's really interesting. Sometimes I find
myself caught in between because I willlove because because every everywhere is like globalism,
you know, it's we benefit fromso much from it. Yeah,

(01:12:56):
of course, But then than justseeing those two extremes going further and further,
sometimes this really it pains me tosee it, for sure. I
actually I met. I had agroup of Chinese people. It was earlier
and early last week. They werein our local town. They were here,

(01:13:18):
actually they were. They were executivesfrom some beef company. It's big
beef country here where I live,and there's a big, big, big
beef. But they were buying.They were buying a lot of beef.
But they were quite excited. Butthey were. They were so because of
display where we are has a lotof medieval castles, and the town right

(01:13:38):
right here has the whole town isbuilt around the medieval castle. Would see
their admiration. For they were like, we had no idea, We had
no idea that you had castles.Yeah, give castles again. These were
people who had never they knew thatiren't did business and stuff and they need
a lot of cows. But theywere like and they knew they were coming

(01:13:59):
here for business. But at thesame time they didn't. They hadn't wrapped
it, they hadn't thought about anythingto do with arts, nothing at all.
But then they're rather excitement then atwell, this is absolutely beautiful.
You have castles great, you know, but hadn't been sold to them in
any way at all, like youknow, so they were you could see

(01:14:20):
one guy was nearly like she'd probablyset up a business of tourism for Chinese,
wealthy Chinese people to come here.They would love it. Yeah,
they weren't. They weren't. It'sour Irelands. It's just so beautiful and
the scenery and everything, you know, the castles especially. I think it's
something that you don't see in China, like we have our own historical stuff,

(01:14:43):
but in ireland's like a completely differentkind of beauty. Especially I see
how Ireland's always keeping your like ruins. I just love that, Like the
ruins are just so beautiful. Butin China ruins are it's just either getting
fixed into some like newly built historicalbuilding because they are trying to restore it

(01:15:06):
all right, But I just lovehow our Ireland just kept the way that
ruined is. Oh yeah, yeah, oh and beautiful. Yeah, well,
I mean the history is lost andif you're going to build onto it,
you know, Yeah, it's liked. Just leave it as it is.
It's okay, but yeah, Imean it's very it's very very strict

(01:15:26):
here. If you ever attempted.There's actually something I saw the other day,
and I won't you in a basisof that, you would absolutely love
it. It's an old house andthis is one of the coolest pieces of
art I've ever seen. It's justI only I don't know how I've missed
it for so many years, butit's just there's no ceremony with it.
There's no plaque, there's no signto tell you. But when I looked
in it was an old square cottageand the roof has gone off, you

(01:15:53):
know, for years, two hundredyears, right. But what they did
was they obviously put the stone allback together. So it'stis shape of a
house with two triangular bits at theend, two peaks at the end,
but the last maybe I don't know, maybe six millimeters of stones. They
are all old stones. What theydid was they've drilled down through them with

(01:16:15):
steel bars and they've raised them up. They've raised it like they've actually lifted
them up from each other so youcan actually see through at different levels,
so it looks like the house ofyou know, if you can imagine like
Tetris, you know, the oldvideo game where the blocks, so it
looks like the houses is falling intointo shape the way they've done the stone
of Like that. Now, that'swhat you do with a ruin. If

(01:16:38):
you're going to do something with anold ruin, that's what you do with
a ruin. It was just asubtle piece of art where you're like,
oh, that is tastefully done.Nothing else needs to be done. But
I stopped that. I was lookingat it for a good forty minutes ago.
Brilliant, absolute genius move. Butyeah, it's I think they the

(01:16:59):
notions of the permissions you need totouch anything previous, like one hundred years
previous, get about it. Youain't. You ain't getting at it.
It's all controlled by one government bodyand they don't. You just don't get
at it. It's as simple asthat. That's good. Yeah, yeah,
it's because of course they had peoplewanted to buy them and make them
British Starbucks or whatever. You're like, no, you can't. You can't,

(01:17:26):
but it's Shanghai is definitely on thebucket list. It is the place
because my in laws have been thereand they were like, I mean,
they loved it. You know whenyou listen to your in law of stories
and you've gone, I've definitely heardthis fourteen hundred times before, but but
they've this is a story. ThisI've been in China where they have told

(01:17:46):
it many many times, but it'sstill it's intrigued me since I'm like,
okay, all right, looks likewe'll have to go to China so you
should see it. Yeah, it'sit's a highly functional like if you come
to even many cities in China,it's just like highly functional government. That's
why. That's why even with thehigh you know, the high pressure from

(01:18:10):
the government, people still just kindof had a lot of them just don't
have a problem with it because itworks with high it works so well.
Like if you come you see that'show the city is running, how the
government, like people's life is soconvenient, and you're just like, wow,
this is really great. Obviously westruggle with a lot of other things.

(01:18:31):
Well, i mean, yeah,it's definitely cool to see it.
Yeah, to see the fine balanceof that. Like you, it's almost
it sounds like who has found areally good balance. It's say someplace like
Munich. It's run, it's runreally well, but it's a bit you
know, it's a bit bohemian andcool as well, and you can kind
of do what you want. Youknow. A couple of my friends they

(01:18:54):
will never move home. They've beento Munich and they're like once, it's
like, that's it. This placeis perfect. Everything runs exactly as it's
supposed to be, and yet it'sreally good fun as well. You know,
there's there's a wilderness to it aswell. At the same time,
you know, when like Octoberfest comesaround, it's just all bets are off
because it's a month of going crazydrinking beer. Like but but the fact

(01:19:17):
that the government have enough, justenough input that everything runs really really well,
so people are okay with it.So I get, yeah, there
could be more high quality input here, we could do. It's on Chinese
input here, to be honest withcertain out of few things, it's like
Jesus Christ, who did you leavebuilding that up to Christ Almighty? But
well, let us bring you capitalism, capitalism. Let's let us bring you

(01:19:43):
that it's funny Chinese have to introduceyou that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Well, in fairness, the Americansand the British have been trying it
a long time and it's still notreally working. Still not really working.
Irish people don't that's really cool.Actually in Ireland you see your own like
local home brand and your local smallbusinesses are so protected. Oh there's not

(01:20:05):
a lot of big corporates and Idon't see that kind of stuff. Well,
we were, we were going thatway and just naturally, I think
Irish people kind of deflect not that, and there was there wasn't an outcry
there's too many Starbucks. There wasn't. It just seemed to be cooler when
if Dawn's coffee shop opened up nextto you know, you go, I'm

(01:20:28):
going to Dawn's because Dawn actually givesa shit, and that was the thing.
Chance or Dawn has better coffee too, because it's like, you know,
because you go in and people wouldgo, would go that extra mile
because the kid working in Starbucks doesn'tgive a shit. I don't know,
I don't know where this coffee camefor. I don't I don't care.
You know, they're tweeting you know, they're on Instagram or whatever. Whereas

(01:20:48):
if you go into you know,John and Mary's, you know bakery next
door, you know that there's ayou know, because the quality of product
coming out of our is good qualitystuff because it's all based from our high
quality you know, high high agricultureor whatever. So when it's any product,
typically people and it just happened againduring the early two thousands. We

(01:21:12):
all went we need to be supercool and get for all and all American
and British things, and then aftera while went, oh no, this
doesn't suit us at all. Thisdoesn't suit us. We all sound like
a bunch of anchors, which iswhat we with a seven year period of
being total anchors in Ireland and thenthankfully it reverted back to normal again.
That's really great, Like even meetingIrish people abroad in like for Examo in

(01:21:35):
China. Now you see how Irishpeople just kept their own everything personality culture,
like they do their own ga trainingin Shanghai or in singaporeore like in
other countries. It's just like Irishpeople you meet, if you meet them,
they're so different. If they kepttheir own Irish culture and their humility

(01:21:58):
and everything like they're just so they'rethey're just like the fast people can meet
here. It seems to be aminority that seemed to lean in the opposite
direction and go heavy capital. Itseems to be a minority of people.
The vast majority. It seems tobe far more accepted and cool as the
wrong word because you will never getapplauded for it, because Irish people will
never I'll never go well done foractually keeping your culture. It's just like,

(01:22:20):
yeah, don't be a dickhead.That's beautiful, Just a stop being
a dickhead. You're a dickhead rightnow, and your friends are absolutely allowed
to call you out on it.That's number one. If you're being you
know what I mean. If andso, I still get shocked when I
see people going over the top andwe're both with like a ridiculous car or

(01:22:42):
ridiculous clothing and stuff, You're like, what is going on? You're obviously
trying to compensate for something, becausethat's not an Irish thing to be doing,
because your friends immediately if you turnup with you know, a five
hundred or seven or a thousand dollarsjacket, you expect your friends to go
take that fucking thing home because ornot, you're not coming out with us
wearing that thing. No, yeah, you dick it, you know,

(01:23:04):
and it should be allowed. That'sa healthy place to be called up by
your friends to keep you in line. That's true. That's so true.
Yeah, ursh, people are solddown to ours. That's like one of
the things that you don't only seein many cultures. Well, there's I
mean, there's there's too far toowhere you you know where it's like,

(01:23:25):
you know, don't get stick yourhead above the parapet just in case people
think you're being a bit crazy.You know. So there isn't it.
There's again a fine balance to befound, and I think most most degree,
most people right now especially it's actuallya glorious time right now. I
noticed because culturally again watching culture andwriting about it and stuff like that,
I noticed, especially since the pandemicand stuff, nobody gives a shit about

(01:23:48):
anything. There's there is nobody marriedto anything anymore. It's it's not that
it's gone lawless. I mean,just nobody seems to give a shit about
it. Your stuff, nobody caresabout it. It's like, do you
do you? Because look, wewere locked in the house for two years
and actually, do you know whatyou want to be kind of weird?
Just be weird, just whatever.Just the main thing is, don't be

(01:24:12):
a dickhead, simple as that.If you cannot be a dickhead, that
would be great. That's true.Yeah, very interesting. I'm very interested
in China would one day also gointo that direction too. I wonder,
naturally, I wonder humans just preprogrammed to go in that direction eventually,
I wonder, do you know?But then again, then again, it

(01:24:34):
probably takes an up people of somesort. But if things are running right,
you can't ask you know, it'snot you know, there won't be
a revolution unless people's food sources andstuff are taken away. But if you're
doing a good job of running acity, people are you know, people
can be going all right, okay, stop bothering me, so let's keep
going. Yeah that's true. Butalso in one way, from my point

(01:24:58):
of view, other people's going view, like you telling me this stuff is
very very interesting. Basically, well, the last thing we want is China
to be like us, because youwe want to be those and you know,
and being you know, keep keepChina interesting like so, yeah,
you've got the best of both worlds. You can go Farman, anytime you
want, you can just go.You know what, I'm done with China.

(01:25:21):
That's good. Let's moved to thewish To. Let's moved to the
wish To Roland with our shellfish stakes. Yeah, and my husband said,
I could never like become a farmerbecause I'm too attached to the animals.
Oh yes, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah. Yeah. We always
say it's a pity they end upbeing so delicious. It's a pity.

(01:25:44):
Yeah, every time it goes on, and I'm always taking pictures of the
cows, the horses, the sheep. Yeah, it's yeah, yeah,
I find a marine beautiful. Well, like I said, I met a
group of Chinese people who, whilethey assume, you know, I'm sure
assuming they thought the cows were absolutelybeautiful, they were more than happy to
buy them in parts and bring themback to China. I know, after

(01:26:09):
all, money, money counts.It's tremendous thing when you know, in
fairness to local local economy is morethan happy to send as many cows as
China ones. They'll send them,no problem, by any chance, you
hungry China, Yes, fine,We've got lots of beef for you.
Yeah, no problem, really goodbeef too. Like your towels are just

(01:26:30):
like running out freely, like Ilove that. Well, that's the one
thing that seems to be that I'vehave had cousins who live in the States
and stuff like that, and evenBritish people coming up going how is how
is it so tastes like because we'vegot so much base and green, we
don't have to feed them corn orwe don't have to feed them pump them

(01:26:50):
with any way. You know,they're fine. They'll just eat lots of
the green stuff and that's kind ofapparently what you're supposed to do. Yeah,
sure it does. But I meanagain, it's what it's pretty much
the backbone of the you know,the the economy here, even though we're
big on take and we have youknow, Google have their head offices.

(01:27:11):
You know, I guess Facebook andwhoever else is here had their head offices
here, which is fine, Butlike the backbone, I think it's like
a third the economy can all betraced to agriculture. So yeah, it's
something huge. It's a huge number. Anyway of the economy can be.
It's it's something along those lines.It was up until a couple of years
ago. A third can be tracedagriculture. So you kind of can't do

(01:27:35):
without the farmers. Yeah, no, definitely not, and you have the
beautiful green land. It's such away it's not to use them too.
Yeah yeah, I mean if wewere to were today, apparently we're to
take European directives and kill two hundredcattle. We're to call two hundred thousand
cattle from the from the national herd. It's supposed to be taken out because

(01:27:56):
of greenhouse gases. They wow,wow, but that would leave us at
a shortfall of eating our own beef, so we'd have to buy in beef.
So I mean, so somebody elsecan grow it somewhere else, and
they're meeting gases because we're on ona different planet of course, to somebody
else that will grow. Like thefarmers are just gone. What what it's

(01:28:19):
Yeah, so there's good and badto be part of it, like,
but I don't I do see,Like while Irish people aren't nice and stuff
like that, it gets to acertain point where there is still a history
of revolution and you can kind ofsee the farmers at the minute are gone.
No, no, no, that'sit. We're not we're not bending
to that one at all. Likeand there could there could be. I

(01:28:40):
would imagine the government are going tohave to rethink a few things at the
minute. Like if you're like yourin laws would be watching it closely,
Like if they're there cow people,so they're they would be up in arms
like they're they stopped a bunch oftraffic recently, Like there's government minister's huge
protests happening because of these ludicrous levelsthat and all this is not they're not

(01:29:00):
coming up with it. It's Europebecause we're part of the European Union.
They're gone, I think Ireland shouldhave less cows what Oh yeah, yeah,
it's all there's it's getting very verysilly to degree because but again I
would imagine you're talking about country peoplewho have no problem in revolution revolting like

(01:29:23):
so no, no, oh,no, there's no problem because especially you,
when you live in the countryside,you there's and this is talking about
city friends, they're like, howdo you know how everything about a broken
how do you fix cars? Becausehere in the countryside, you grow up
and there isn't a man to call. You don't ring the ca car,
guy, you didn't when I waslike, you didn't. If something broke,

(01:29:45):
you learned how to fix the fuckingthing. You everybody, you learned
how to fix it because there wasnobody to be calling or it's just stayed
broke one or the other. Whereasin the city, my friends and they,
you know, they're they're looking atthe wrong end of a hammer.
They're like, how do you putup a shelf? Like how how did
you? How did you get thisfar in life and not know how to
build shit? But it's because inthe country countryside, So essentially, if

(01:30:12):
the city turns its back on thecountryside, it'll still be fine. That's
why during during lockdown and all theselockdowns and stuff, nothing changed in the
countryside. Nothing. Everybody traveled justas yeah, everybody just as much as
they always did. They went wherethey wanted to because they were like,
no, you do you, youdo you, and we'll just stay doing
us, man, We'll just keepbeing okay, all right, there was

(01:30:35):
you just can't drop by a neighbor'shouse whenever you want. I guess then
technically yeah, yeah, like likeI don't I can't even drive. Like
growing up in the city, Idon't even have No, I don't,
yeah, exactly. So that's oneof the things like, wow, when

(01:30:57):
you go to the countryside, you'relike, I can't go anywhere, like
even going to a going to aconvenience store, you know. And I
drove. I learned to drive atage seven. Oh wow, Now it
is obscure or even for a countrykid to be learning at seven you could
I would immediately. By age ten, I was able to I was a

(01:31:18):
productive member of the society. Icould drive a tractor, and they were
like, okay, the small tractor, and I feel needs work, so
send a ten year old get himto go do it. So you're like,
because you gotta be you gotta growup pretty quick, because there's only
so much time you can do thiskid. Each ship we've become where you're
still you're not useful. You're likeyou've got two legs in two arms and

(01:31:40):
you can No, you need tobecome fucking useful quickly. So by the
time you get to college and allyour friends are like, god, I
don't know about a job. You'relike, a fucking job. Job.
We dow fourteen hour days since Iwas ten, you know what I mean.
So it is true. It is. It's really funny because everybody,
especially comedians, always make jokes aboutlike China's chowel labor, right, But

(01:32:05):
then I'm always like, talking toWestern people, I'm like, oh,
wow, when did you started working? Because in China it's like impossible.
Like when I was sixteen, Iwanted to find some like waiter job just
to kind of exercise myself by likenobody would hire you because it's illegal.
But then I talked to like Westernpeople, They're always like, oh,

(01:32:27):
I started working since I was liketwelve or something. I'm like, how,
yeah, yeah, that's really interesting. Yeah yeah, and it is.
Yeah, it is almost a runningjoke. They're okay, child labor
and all the rest of in China, but yeah, absolutely no countryside whatever
about even a decisions. You guysare chiwel labors, but you have to
like there's no there is no Idon't feel like today. It's that you
don't feel like it, don't you? Oh? But do you know how

(01:32:53):
about about throw your xbox off thewall? How about that you want to
go, Well, look, Iknow chwel labor has ex fods. Well
you know what I mean? Thereisn't there just isn't the option and you're
not raised in that's well, Isure, ship and most of my friends
weren't either. You weren't raised withit with an option, so you actually

(01:33:13):
took There was then an element ofpride and just duty of oh yeah,
you get up, you know,or when you come home from school,
there's work to be done. There'llalways be something to be done, because
again, you're dealing with larger areastoo, like where's my friends and cities
they grew up if they did growup in a house, they grew up
on something that maybe one tenth ofan acre, whereas we would have grown
up one hundred and fifty acres.You know that kind of like there's so

(01:33:39):
and all that shit needs work,you know, so there's always something had
work. Yeah, there's always somethingto be done, you know. Yeah,
it's but look, I'm not goingto keep you any longer. I
this was absolutely brilliant. I've neverheard this is yeah, this is the
first. This is a first.Somebody actually all the way in China,

(01:34:00):
this is the first. Yeah,yeah, yeah. We have Chinese in
the village, and the only Chinesein Tom's podcast is tremendous. We're going
to Yes, we're still that.Yeah. The only change that has to
be your sitcom. That's it,that's it. Yeah, but it rights
itself. You landed the farm inwest of Ireland, like yeah, trying

(01:34:24):
to start start writing some scripts andfind the Irish Netflix to uh to take
me in. Netflix are here,they have offices here, so you could
just yeah, you're just yea andexactly you're genuine. You're not like some
you know, American person put youknow, pretending to be Chinese, like
you're actually Chinese and you actually havean Irish Yeah, actually rights itself and

(01:34:49):
no, god, there's a lotof potential there. There's a lot of
potential for sure, for sure,don't This has been absolutely fantastic. Thank
you very very much, great pleasure. Thank you so much, Tom,
Thank you very much, Tom.What a class chat. How often you
get to talk to somebody in Shanghaiabout comedy and having the crack what's the

(01:35:10):
crack? Good drying out there?Absolutely nails it, absolutely nails. Go
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