275 - Sinead Babington

Tipperary's only women's pro boxer joins me from her home in Mexico City to chat about her frankly inspirational route to the professional ranks and to make utterly starving by answering all my questions about Mexican cuisine.
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on moving on to today's guest.I was very excited to get today's guest
on. She needed Babington. Itwas class. I mean, I'm biased.

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She's from Tipperary and great she's basedin Mexico. It was class to
hear her two backs and start tocome through, you know, right about
twenty minutes in. It was brilliant. She is absolutely class. I had
such a joy with this inspirational stuff. That is never too late to become
a pro boxer. Okay, it'sprobably too late for me, but it's

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never too late in a lot ofcases to become a pro boxer, as
shown by the brilliant said Babington.I like to roll into podcast but not
making a big hoop. But inall fairness, it's not too often we
get Tipperary person a little bit backhome, all the way from Mexico.
She needed how you keeping. I'mvery good on yourself and class. I'm

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absolutely the class. Now no doubtyour weather is doing better than my weather
because we're blown sideways here. It'sjust it's we're complaining I've been cold when
it's about twelve degrees in the nighttime, it's not really cold, but it's
up in Mexico, in Mexico City, and the nighttime it gets a bit
cool. But the sun is everyday, so that's that's the good part.

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And where are you then? Areyou in Mexico, Mexico, Mexico
City. Yeah, so because it'slike two thousand meters above sea level,
Like it does get fresh in thenighttime, but like compared to if you're
on the coast, but the sunis out every day, So I like
that part. Yeah. And justbecause when I started reading about your first

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I was like, well, shelives in Mexico, and I just have
this thing every time I think ofanybody that I know has gone to Mexico
or is in Mexico. I justthink she's a fair jealous of the food.
It's as good as I imagine thefood is. Yeah, I love
the food is very good. Ithink I've I think if I go home
to Ireland now, I'll be lookingfor my sauce and my tortillas and yeah,

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that's the look. If it's notspicy, it doesn't have flavor.
That's the saying here in Mexico andyou're you're six hours behind. So were
you working to were you teaching today? No, I'm on the on school
holidays now since Friday, so itworked out perfect. Yeah. So if
I was in school yet, itwould have been a weekend job, I
think to media. So it's good. So you're you're you're originally a Carricon

(04:34):
Sure woman, and we will getthrough. We'll have a right on natterpot
like your story is class like,So Carrican Sure now pro boxer in Mexico.
That's point day in point B.You just won your your last fight,
that's point proper point B. What'sin between? Tell let's give us

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it now? Running between Jesus,Yeah, it's not. It's a bit
unconventional for most boxes. I don'thave really a big amateur background. I
was living in Australia and I justtook it up for for weight loss,
for fitness and got absolutely hooked andand now I'm in Mexico professionally. There's

(05:16):
definitely a lot of in between story. But Jesus, like who takes Like
do you know what I mean?Like we've all saw the lads, you
know, after the last crash,or whatever. Lads got rid of the
golf clubs, and you know,we saw these oversized middle aged men pulling
on like ground cycling cycling bikes aroundthe country. But there was never holding

(05:39):
up traffic around the country. Therewas never a hope in Jesus one of
them fell. I was going toget on some like you know, professional
tour team or anything like that.What so what age do you? So?
What age you in Australia, Likeyou know what, I give all
boxer size ago or whatever. Yeah, I started boxing at like twenty three.
I went to Australia straight after university. So I was there for about

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a year, you know, livingthe life, traveling up the East Coast,
drinking cider, getting fat and youknow, like back home, when
the sun is out, they say, oh it's great weather for cider,
but in Australia it never ends.So I think after about a year,
I was like, Okay, thisis not a holiday. I live here.

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You're just constantly on a Sunday Thursday. In your head, You're like,
this is great traveling and you know, getting pies in the in the
in the service stations along the way, and yeah, I was like,
but I'm a fair bit of way, I'd say, even in the first
six months there. I was lookingat my like my photos on my first
Christmas there and I was like,so then I think I had to kind

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of yeah, I had to takeup something, and I actually started.
It was like kind of more kickboxingin a park, like boxer size,
but it was more mighty kick boxingstyle first. And then like I had
found myself while I was I hadbeen in a long term relationship in Ireland,

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and after my first year in Australia, I was single for the first
time in about seven years, andI decided I'm going to I'm going to
Thailand for for the like the summerholidays in Australia's at Christmas time. So
I went for like a month toThailand to a my tight training camp and
of course, yeah, because that'swhat you do. Yet Y've been joint

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wade watchers and do you know whatI mean the counter So I think that
was the start of Yeah, likenothing ever went from there. It was
fitness and traveling by myself and andthat was completely just changed my outlook on
everything. I was like, well, you can go on holidays and you
don't have to just drink for aweek, you can actually do other stuff.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, Andthen yeah, I came back to
Australia and I ended up moving toanother out of the city and the gym
that I joined did both my tiein boxing and I think my leg or
something was was sore, so Ijust did the pure boxing class and then
from there I never looked back.I just want pure box And there was

(08:13):
a coach there that that he wasYeah he was. We were. It
was more like fighters class rather thanjust boxer size, and yeah he was,
and I got completely Yeah, Ijust got put all my energy into
that and loved it and wanted tofight and did my first exhibition fight there
and did a couple there, andthen had decided I wanted to take a

(08:37):
year out and travel. But yeah, he had said to me go to
Cuba and Mexico. Cuba for aboxing technique and Mexico for like the heart
that they have. And then yeah, I'm still in Mexic for five years
later. I'm married here, turnedpro here. So can you imagine if

(08:58):
you went in and your man wasone of these like we was just smoking
a fag reading Yeah you're doing great, girls, Yeah, keep going yeah,
yeah, but by look, youfound somebody who was actually passionate about
boxing and you locked onto that.Like we were sporty before, Like do
you play Mowgian football at home?Not? Not really? No, Like
when I was younger, I probably, like my brother is trains and breaks

(09:22):
horses. We did horse riding wasprobably the closest thing to sport. But
like until I was about sixteen andthen it was just social life. Yeah,
so I wasn't Yeah, I wasn'toverly sporty in school. I think
my whole yeah, when I wentto Australia, like the whole, my
whole outlook change because I think whenI was in school, I remember like

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when we the people we were inKarrak and obviously like in Karak and when
you go to secondary school or everyonecomes in from the countryside and they're all
really sporty and they're deadly at gaylicfootball and hurling, and we're like,
nah, we don't stand a chance, Like we're from the presentation in Karric
We don't you know, we hadno leg We couldn't compete with them,

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and it was such like so sadbecause now I'm like I started when I'm
twenty three at boxing. But whenI was like thirteen, I thought,
oh, no, you know,it's too late. Now they're already really
good at a sport. But yeah, then and when you go to Australia,
well, I think in the worldis changing, but everyone is doing
exercise at five o'clock in the morning, some sort of exercise, and it

(10:24):
was just it was like you canactually start something in your twenties and that's
okay. Yeah. Before that Ikind of had the mentality that not,
it's too late now, you know, I suppose you know, what is
the perfect storm really landing into aplace like Australia where just a fright here
to be getting up at five o'clockand going for a run in the pistons
of rain. Do you know ifthey would know if there was fifty people
in your neighborhood doing as you go, Oh, it's a thing. But

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when it's yeah, there's nearly amental block, like going, no,
a mentor would do that. Butlike that Australia, you know, just
people doing pull ups at five o'clockin the morning, you know, like
everywhere they're on the like running alongthe river. While I was in Brisbane
running along the river and there's allthe fitness classes are early before it gets
too hot, and so you dobefore you go to work, and you

(11:09):
start off the day on a high, happy Outdoingsporer. So yeah, it's
funny because I remember the first timeI went home for Christmas and I and
I got up and you're like yourbody clock is all over the place,
and I think I couldn't sleep,and I was like, I'm just going
to get up and go for arun, like and it's dark and cold
and rain and then everyone's like,what do you do in your mentor made?

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But to be fair, yeah,trying to switch that off so you
get the So before had you doneexhibition fights before you decided to hit South
America before your advice? Yeah,kind of like amateure but more. Yeah,
they're like exhibition because they're not liketechnically like with the eyebor or something,
so it's just like exhibition fights.And I did about three, I

(11:54):
think when I was in in Brisbaneand Australia, and then yeah, I
went travel and then I came backand then I went traveling again, and
then in Mexico, I had plannedto take a year out and like travel
to a few countries and I did. I went for a few for a
while to Que Guatemala and came toMexico City. And I was only going

(12:15):
to stay for a few days becausethe year before I had visited Mexico City
and I was like, oh,maybe I got to Guadalahara. But I
had in my head I want tostay at least out of the year three
months and do some like training ina boxing gym and just be able to
focus on that. But yeah,I joined it. Well, I went
to a gym here and and yeah, like straight away they were like,
oh, yeah, there's a fightin four weeks. We're gonna You're gonna

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fight in this. So I waslike, oh, Like in Australia,
like i'd have an exhibition and thenmaybe a year later or another one because
it wasn't that big. But here, like in Mexico City, every weekend,
all over the city there's amateur profights, like everywhere. He's like every
weekend. If you want to fightevery weekend, you can find somewhere where

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there's some sort of an event onthat has boxing. Did you just rock
up tear bike or was there aphone call made before you know the Rocky
moment. Oh yeah, I justlike the first time when I went there
before, I was only here fora week, so I had like went
to a gym called Romanza that ifI think there was a Netflix documentary of
different martial arts in different countries andand that was the gym they visited in

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a Mexico city. And if you'relike google, that one seems to come
up because like there's like a famoustrainer there, Berensteiner. So I ended
up going there for a couple ofsessions, and then when I came back
the next year, I was like, oh, well, I was like,
it's Mexico City. I mean,there's hundreds of gyms. I should
I should have a look around.And then I think I was like just

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searching online and I came across aCuban school, so I was like,
I really liked the style in Cuba. I was like, it would be
cool to have still have the Cubantechnique, but like in a Mexican gym.
So I ended up go to thatgim and they were like, oh,
we're going to Nevada d Luca,which is about in two airs for
Mexico City, up in the mountainsfour thousand meters above sea level to go

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running because they were training someone wastraining for a professional fight. They're like,
you know, is he here atfive o'clock in the morning. So
I got an over the next morningand then I met everyone and everyone was
like, oh, come on Mondayat seven o'clock. And then yeah.
I just ended up getting a Mexicanfamily within the first week there, and

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I was like, I'll stay anothermonth. I'll stay another month. I
didn't want to go after like Iwas living for six years in Australia and
I absolutely loved it. But there'ssomething about the Mexican people. They're like
the Irish. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, it's another speaking another language,
but they're more like us. Theyhave the same personality, the same

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sense of humor, like everything's ajoke. Like I just felt like,
I don't know, they're so warmas well, like they're really are so
like it felt like the major partof your family. Within Yeah, the
first week I was there, Iwas like, this is going to be
hard to leave. Like I knewit was going to be hard to leave
in Australia after sixty years when Iwas supposedly only taken a year out,

(15:13):
but so Yeah, I was doingsome teaching English on the site and then
and then actually a school contacted mein Mexico City. So I was like,
oh, this is my way ofbeing able to stay. Because I
borrowed money in Australia to go traveling. I was like, I'm going to
need to be I was like,oh, I'm coming back in a year,

(15:35):
so I'll be able to pay itback. Because I was, I
was permanently implied on the school inAustralia, and so yeah, then I
ended up working and it's nearly fiveyears now. Jesus, So did they
bring you up with an offer oflike do you know it about met do
you know it about science? Likeyou know? Was what was the base

(15:56):
have you? Is your Spanish anygood? Or were you just like listening
class? They're not gonna learn itone way or another. Well though it
is an international like the kids learnedin English in this school. It's a
kind of a semi and international school, but they're pretty much all Mexican students.
It's still like a wealthy school,very different to where I live in

(16:18):
Mexico City, because I'm living properly, like you know, in local Mexico
City. Yeah, like, butyeah, this was like rich Mexican kids
in this school learning through English,like most of them their family have businesses
in the States, and so yeah, no, I wasn't teaching matho.
No at that stage when I firstarrived. No, My my Spanish was

(16:40):
very basic, definitely way too likeI think probably thinking back when I was
having conversations in the boxing gym,I probably understood about thirty percent of what
they said. I was just likeyeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah,
I just was on it like Ihad it. I've always on this
teaching agency platform online where I hasalways been like, oh I could go

(17:04):
to this country, I'll go tothat country. But I was always like,
oh, I don't want to betied down for two years somewhere that
I don't want to go. Butjust it's just a coincidence, like I
think a teacher had pulled out atthe last minute just two weeks before the
school year started in August. Iarrived in Mexico in February and then so
they were like, oh, youcan do a one year contract. So
I was like, because I wassupposedly going back to my job in Australia,

(17:30):
and yeah, then I did anotheryear and then I did another year,
and then last year I took ayear out for boxing, and now
what for economic reasons. I'm backin the school since basically about three weeks
ago. So yeah, so inyour first your first fight fight, So
even like they say, all right, can you say your name properly?

(17:56):
No Mexican because the father I'd imaginelooking at that father gone, ye,
like she needs she needs. Yeah, No, I don't think manny can
say my name like my my I'mmarried now here as well. And my
husband's family don't even like they're justthey have a word here that they say

(18:17):
for white skinned people. That's ifyour female is were at. So even
if you're like if you're walking throughthe streets, they're like, well that
wear at and like and even myhusband's family are like like, la weara?
Is is she common? Like thewhite you know, they don't even
try, yeah, the white woman. But it's actually like like in a
warm way, It's not like yeah, of course yeah, because I mean

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white, what would they have toagainst you? You know what I mean?
Yeah, she loved the raw honestyof that. It's like, what's
she the white one? Yeah,here's there's no like like this politically correctness,
like if you're brown, you're Moreno, which is the brown woman.
If you're white, you're la Warita, and if you're if you're chobby,
you're Gordito. You're like if you'reskinny, you're flaky. Though, like

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you've got those four different nicknames,which is like fat, skinny, brown,
white, like like one of myfour favorite when when they're trying to
describe someone, they're like, oh, you know, the skinny brown guy,
And I'm like, that's nine percentof the boxing gym you're telling me
now, so I can't. Idon't know who you're talking about. Give
me your name? Please? Doyou know what? We need to make

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this big in Mexico because we don'tdeal well with political correctness. I love
I love the notion of that.Yeah yeah, you know that, you
know to tell me what? Yeahyeah, horror yeah yeah, like and
even almost in an endearing way,like you know, the way like honey
to your wife, like here it'slike Gornita, like my my fatty,

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Like like I was like when Ifirst like when I first arrived, I
was like I'd start crying, likeif my husband was calling me like fatty,
like, but here it's like andI'm like, no, but what's
her proper name. I'm not goingto call her gore that like, you
know, that's what they because theyjust have their nicknames like and it's just

(20:07):
normal and it's honesty to it.I love that. I love that.
I'm sure I wouldn't mind be calledshorts short shorts. It's grand, it's
fine. The first fight rolls around, they're like, all right, ned
uh, put down the gear backthere, and we have a fight for
you in four weeks. Do youlike, like, what's the initial first

(20:32):
ten seconds of that answer? Doyou go alet's or all right? Give
me? I know, I thinkI was like, okay, yeah,
fighting in four weeks like obviously probablynervous, but like whatever your carrick,
You're like, grand, I'm fromcharacter. That's the worst that can happen.

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Yeah, so yeah, And itwas like outside of Mexico City in
this like the state of Mexico,which is like like Mexico City is known
as a state, and then theState of Mexico is like the next state
outside of Mexico City, which islike even more probably like poor and more
like ruring. Well, I don'tknow, it's very built up, but

(21:18):
yeah, yeah, more undeveloped thanMexico City. A get Mexico City probably
gets all of the funding, likethat's where the tourism is. But yeah,
it was like the little towns.I love that the little towns are
are the best thing about Mexico becauselike they all have the soul culture and
they're like when you go there,even like they want to take a picture

(21:41):
which is white foreigner like that's talland like literally like not sounding like like
like all even little kids coming upbasking photos for you, and I was
like, you know, who,what the hell? Like this is so
cute, but like I'm nobody,but they're just like yeah, it's just
and still to this day they're likethat here everyone's like, oh, can

(22:03):
I take a photo with you?Yeah, we're going to have to get
you in a proper nickname for yourfight ring name. We're going to have
to get you on left. Ijust put like Ireland Desa, like which
is the Irish, like the Irishone because when when I when I first
yeah, I think in my firstfight, like even they had like a

(22:25):
little newspaper article and they were likefin Lasa like I was from Finland because
they obviously didn't understand my accent andI said Ireland, Lisa, and they
just heard finlandsa so I was like, I'm from Finland now apparently. So
yeah, I always like no,I'm like, have it on my shorts
Earland, Lisa, because I'm like, we're you know, I I don't

(22:48):
like the you know, being likewhen you when I fight here sometimes like
oh international fight like Ireland against Mexico, and I'm like, no, I
live here, like I'm Marriva toMexican, you know, for relaxed like
but at the same time, likeobviously I'm really really proud of being Irish,
so I love you know, Iwant that's me known at least the
right country, not because as well. Sometimes they're like, you know,

(23:10):
a Gringa, like she's an Americanbecause most of the most of the foreigners
living here from America. Like there'snobody really very few that are from Ireland.
Maybe some teachers, but that shoulddefinitely be your team then, you
know what I mean, Like becauseit's like there is a boxing heritage there
and there is there's always been akind of a hand across the water and

(23:32):
if you look, I suppose youwould definitely looked back through the history of
it. There's some great history betweenthe stuff that has the run ins that
Irish have had with Mexico down tothe centuries. Like like you you know,
some red hair popping up around theplace in Mexico. Yeah, Alvarez,
the people weren't pulling out of someplace. Come on, he looks

(23:53):
more Irish than any of Yeah.When I when I first arrived, I
went to it. I was like, arrived in February and March. I
went to the Saint Patrick's. Theyprayed like a tiny one in another part
of the city, and like theywere like, oh, thank you so
much, you helped us. AndI was like what, Like I didn't
even know, and they were likeso obviously. There's like you know,
the story of the the Irish thatwere living in America, in America at

(24:17):
the time, that were made tofight in Mexico with the American army and
they just got on really well withthe Mexicans and turned sides. And and
there's like memorial in Mexico City,like a plaque with all the names of
the San Patricia, the Bataia,the San Patricia, which is the Battle
of the San Patricio is the SaintPatrick battle or battalion, and all of

(24:37):
these Irish that fought for Mexico,they changed sides and so they like I
didn't even know this, and theywere all like, oh, thanks,
we love you, and like Mexicanswere singing Irish songs and they'd never even
been to Ireland, but they're like, I just love Irish music. And
it was so unreal, like youknow, like if anyone ever has the
chance to come, I I sawit very brief documentary and it was kind

(25:03):
of the crossover between the two.And there was I think they were in
Wexford. There were a bunch ofthere were farmers, small time farmers,
and they were offered like mixed Texasat the time. They wanted to they
needed farming, they needed people farmers, and they need the people who could
actually farm. So these ads wereworking off like ten acre farms. They
were like, we'll give you twothousand acres if you come on this boat.

(25:23):
Of course, the boat absolutely pissesit away off the coast of America
and they basically just ended up inMexico. A few lads decided to continue
on and said, look at weare contracted, but the gang of lads
just went, it's grand. Lookaround farm here. Imagine big Wexford heads

(25:45):
on lads landed into Mexico and justgoing what's the crowd well and just settled.
They were like grand because immediately they'rejust they rapport with the people and
should you pick up, you pickit up quick enough when you have to
pick it up, like yeah,apparently they just started farming, worked out
the finest Arakans well, and Imean there was nothing more to be said

(26:08):
because they were assumed that the boathad gone down and they I think I
think by the same token, Ithink they got a leg up because it
was it was. It wasn't thefact, you know, but it was.
It was kind of like a Catholiccrossover. So like priests in America
and Mexico were okay, We're likesure, look at your here. Anyway.
They love it. They love anout bit of Catholics, doesn't it

(26:32):
like Christmas? Yeah, they giveIreland they run for their money. Oh
my god, Yeah, I knowthat story. That's I must look that
up. But yeah, there's there'sthere is meant to be in random places
like Irish heritage, and there's somuch like like they have you know,
the way like we have the banshee, like these stories or whatever, like

(26:53):
they have like your ownA and it'spretty much the same thing, like if
she cries in the night, someonedies and all like like there's so many
of these, I guess, likethe Celtic and the like. There's such
old cultures no one and like hereit's the Aztecs and the like. There's
so many similarities like in the culturesand even like some of I was in

(27:14):
some like little town in Vera Cruiseand there was people dancing and it looked
like Irish dancing like that. Odd. When you see that, you're like,
right, yeah. And even sometimesin the music, like some of
the music here, like in differentI don't know, from the north of
the country, and you hear likethe kind of almost sounds like this Irish
music in it, and you seethe likes the flamenco and stuff like that,
You're like, hold on that onesecond. I've seen this stuff before

(27:37):
somewhere. This is yeah. Noteverything is documented too, so I mean
do you know, yeah, therewould have been lines just go you know
what, it's as well to headon out of this. America's place because
it's they seems sounder like there's agreat Irish comic he's based in America,
David night Hill, and he hasa bit oh I think I've seen seen
it where he's like, yeah,what he tells that story of the revolution.

(28:00):
Yeah, they went down, theywent uh latinas, thank you very
much, goodbye America women. Thisis fine, this will do find out
here. No, but honest togod, the humor, like you know,
the way we like in obviously,like we've got these histories of suppression
and you know, we're used tojust making lights of everything for basically a

(28:23):
survival mechanism, and here as well, like like with the most tragic thing
in five minutes, the memos allover Facebook, like you know, joking
about what's just happened, you know, anywhere else in the word, like
you know, in the Australia orAmerica so inappropriate. But here we're like,

(28:45):
yeah, sure you can't laughter,what you're going to do? Cry?
But there doesn't seem to be thatelement of and anybody I've i've that
has ever been there. The immediatething was okay, I could say I
could settle Neflix all the same,do you know, and this works for
us, all right? Yeah,so you how many amateur fights did you

(29:07):
have then? Before? I thinkI didn't have many at all. I
had about I think about fifteen intotal between like probably including the three exhibitions
in Australia and then about another thirteenhere. But hold on, yeah,
no, I went in the amateurfights before I forget it. Did anybody

(29:27):
join the boxing class? Witch?Did Nora joint Witch? Did Teresa joint
Witch? Or? Are you byyourself? Because I love the notion that
sorry, now you're going actually atthis? Are you? Or? I
just rocked up and it was justlike I'm going to trade in Mexico for
a couple of months. But thenwhen the coach was like, oh,

(29:48):
like you're going to and I wasthe only girl in the gym that actually
was fighting, all the guys werelike, none of it. There was
a girl there that were doing itjust for recreation, but I was the
only girl. I guess They're justlike, oh, she's all she's going
to be able to win with herjust her job, you know, And
and that's yeah, that's what happened. Like and then an amateur like in
the in the first Good Feet fights, I was, I was winning the

(30:11):
fights pretty easily just from you knowboxing. A move in Mexican style is
like go forward, go you know, terrier style down in the center and
just fight it out like so,so yeah, obviously the rounds are fast
for women, they are two minuterounds and and like you know, I
was, I've been taught to boxand move, so they were you know,

(30:33):
they get frustrated because they're like,why are you not standing there in
the same spot and receiving punches,which has worked out in my favor for
for the most part. But sinceI turned pro, obviously when the level
goes up, they know how toyou know, to cut your distance.
And they're not a big fan ofthe boxing style here, Like they don't

(30:56):
really like it. They you know, they want to war, they want
blood, they want they wanted tostand there right, I'm like, yeah,
I want my my brain and tactoo. So I'm gonna you know,
keep doing them my way for itnow. But then when they go to
other countries, like you know,now when they're going to the UK and
stuff, like, they you know, it's the opposite they want they like,

(31:18):
you know, the boxing style andmove head movement, footwork, isn't
that interesting? Like the opposite,Yeah, the same sport, but completely
different, like that they just wanta war. Let's let's tear both their
faces upwards. I now would beI'd far more enjoy I guess funk cousin
from the just it's almost a chess. I love. I love watching it
all. Look like, yeah,excuse me. Taylor's last fight where she

(31:42):
kept on tying her up, You'relike, oh, this must be driving
horbor and bananas. Yet shots wantto and gone against Yeah, because like
what else was she going to do? Stand there and receive punches like she
it was the perfect strategy. Sheshe came out like when she came up
with like an animal that wasn't goingto let anyone upset her this time,

(32:02):
didn't she? But but yeah,I mean if you're a super boxing fan,
I think you admire the you know, the technique and like you said,
the chess and like, don't getme wrong, like if you go
to the fights here, I meanit's so entertaining as well, just like
oh my god, like they arelike did they like their machines? They

(32:23):
just throw punches like you're like,where do they get the energy to do
this? But and it is.It's super entertaining. But I never like
some especially the female fights here,Like most of them are are like it's
difficult even sometimes to find me arival because of that. Like most of
them are like fifty something kilos,like they're smaller, but like the two

(32:45):
of them just go at it forlike even like you know, eight rounds,
just non stop, and I'm like, I don't know who won,
Like I'm impressed by how much theygo through, but I'm like, I
don't know who won because they juststood there and punched for eight rounds.
But they love it. They lovethe war. If you know, like
they say that, there's so muchheart. I suppose you'd see this kind

(33:07):
of stuckiness and you'd meet I've metsome of the lads of South American lads
that actually work here. You know, they're brought over, brought over to
work in the bee factories nearby andstuff. You'd see different just different shapes
to people, and you're like,oh, well that's interesting. You're taught.
But you see that the stocky fellasand you know, and you're going,
man, you know by them thatyou could run them over the dump

(33:28):
truck like and lovely fellas forget aboutit. You just know by them they
have that stucky you exhulsting. It'sexhausted because you can be thrown everything and
they will take everything and just keepwalking you down, like they will just
keep walking. Like I'm like,you're way too comfortable receiving what's wrong,

(33:49):
but you're not to the child?What's up? Come on, please give
it to me for God's Like,yeah, what was it like day one
in the build up to your yourfirst profight? Then? Was that a
bit like snow yeah? In myYeah, and when I when I had
my debut, like I think,actually, yeah, that was one of

(34:09):
the things like I got it gotloads of like it was being shared everywhere
all over the internet and like itwas getting loads of like yeah, I
think I was a bit overwhelmed tobe dark because I was like, you
see most people having profits here andlike smaller shows and there's nothing about it,
but like it did. The girlthat I was fighting against, she

(34:32):
was from Beera Cruz, which isanother state, and she was also like
a really like a really good amateurprospect, and it was like, yeah,
it got loads of even like youknow, when I saw Irish box
and like caught wind of it andshared it, and you know, I
was like, oh my god,they're sharing it in Ireland, so yeah,

(34:52):
it was. It was like,yeah, it was. I think
I was overwhelmed as well, andlike I was working full time and at
the same time, I have agood friend, Alexandra Ayala that lives in
Tijuana that she fought two weeks beforehandin Scotland for a world title fight against
Hannah Renkin and ended up getting braintrauma and was actually in a coma.

(35:15):
So I was like, I hada lot going through my head. I
was like, I don't know,maybe I shouldn't do like I was just
thinking of I was in contact withher with her mom. Someone gave me
your number to see how she wasdoing, and I was like, oh
my god, like I don't wantto, you know, the way you
hear everyone says the saying like youknow, you don't play boxing, like

(35:36):
you know they say that, likeyou don't play boxing whatever, but you
don't actually think about it. Andthen like two weeks before like my even
the box and pages here, likethey just get wind of the story and
everyone shares it and it's false newand they had actually like shared that she
had she died in the coma,and she hadn't. She was still in
a coma, and I mean theoutcome most of the time is they don't

(35:58):
make it. But actually, like, thanks be to God, she has
recovered. She's back in Mexico,she's had a son not long ago.
Absolutely Mirior. She was just soblessed that she was in Scotland and apparently
they've like the best brain surgeons inthe world in where she was. She
was just absolutely so blessed. Butlike I was like, oh my God,

(36:20):
like I don't want to do thisto my parents, like you know,
you know, I just started thinkingall of this. So I was
like and even my my husband,who was my just my boyfriend at the
time, he was like, youknow, if you don't want to do
it, no one's going to judgeit. You don't have to do it.
And I was like, no,no, I have to get it
up my system, have to doit anyway. Yeah, but anyway,
I did it anyway, and II think I was very defensive, probably

(36:40):
for the same reason. I waslike, well, the main thing is
like, you know, I don'twant to get hit, like get badly
hurt. So I was very defensiveand I lost my majority decision and one
judge gave it a draw. Ithink like a draw was a good result.
I think I had the first roundof the last round in my own
head, but at the same time, like she was coming forward more wasn't

(37:02):
connecting punches, but was coming forward, and that's what they want to see.
Nearly ring aggression is nearly added addedpoints, like you know, yeah,
that's been my biggest probably faulty,you know, like that the judges
see the person going forward, becauselike I came down from the ring and
was like I will have not beentouched, Like my face is super clean.
I think in the nighttime, myarm was dead because every her her

(37:27):
hooks were like landing on my arm. So I felt like good because I
think I just was like I feltgood that I did okay. And it
was against a girl who had onehundred amateur fights with I think four losses,
so out of the hundred amateur fights, I was like, I was
like, oh, could they're nothave given me, like, you know,
for my deboot, like someone whoyou know, get this animal Jesus

(37:52):
Christ, like you know, theway they protect fighters. If you're like
signed by a big promoter like matchRoom, the way they find it is
like you know that they're gonna looksuper in there too. But yeah,
I was. I was happy thatI just like looked decent and and yeah,
I came away. I was Ithink, you know, after everything
that happened to Alexandra, I wasjust like, really that if we both

(38:15):
got down at the ring and we'reboth we're both in good shape. And
I didn't feel like I looked completelyout of my league up there either,
So that was, well, that'sthat's it. I mean, anybody'd first
stay out, like I mean,you, no matter what the sport,
being a bit shite is completely okay, but actually hold your own against somebody
who's done the business. Because it'sa bright light, there's a crowd.

(38:37):
You're not wearing head gear now,because was that a big change? Like
everyone Yeah, everyone was saying that, like, od, it's completely different,
Like you've got like eight ounce glovesno head gear, like you're gonna
feel the punches. But yeah,maybe I just haven't been connected kicking on
the face yet badly. Yeah,I think, like definitely, because if

(39:02):
my arm was dead, if theywere connecting on my face. That would
have made a big difference. Butyeah, I don't think it's been a
massive like I haven't been like,well, this feels completely different. I
think when I was an amateur,whether I was in pro, whether even
Sparron, like I always have thenerves like before you get in the ring,

(39:22):
Like I think that's just something thatI don't know if people some people
don't have it or they fake pretendthat they don't have it, but it's
something that like I will always have. But the feeling afterwards is always something
that makes me keep coming back formore. When I'm questioning my sanity,
yeah you can no, but Imean people and people non sports people,

(39:42):
people haven't played sports or done anythingthat's pushed themselves into their uncomfortable zone.
They go, well why would whywould you want to do so? And
you're like, you have no graspThe payoff is so yeah, it's glaanatory,
it's built into your genes, likeit's absolutely yeah, where you to
push yourself into that if you ifyou stop feeling nerves, I think that's

(40:04):
when you get worried. Even stillto this day, if I get on
the stage, there's something there's somethingin there where you're like, okay,
all right, but now I'm Ilive comfortably in that chaos in my head.
Do you know that kind of place? Yeah, that's what they say,
once you can control it, like, yes, it doesn't get too
much that it controls you. Now. By the way, I'm not comparing
myself to a professional boxer as tellingfucking dick jokes for a living. It's

(40:27):
it's the same thing at all,but it's adrenaline. It's yeah, it's
like and like, that's what Ilike. I'm not afraid that I'm going
to get like hurt really like I'mnot. It's not like I'm afraid that
she's going to hurt me. Likeit's you. It's a nervous thing that
you want to perform well, andyeah, you don't want to be you
don't want that feeling afterwards of disappointmentthat you did ship like you know what
I mean. Yeah, of courseit's more that than anything, especially if

(40:52):
you if you put it, youknow, if you've put work into it,
you don't want it all to allover in the first round, you
know what I mean. You're like, I work into this situation like this
better, I want this to payup. So there's always going to be
a bit of a nail biting,but it's it is. It's interesting to
hear your take that you're like,yeah, I know, my style is
not to get get hit in theface. Interesting to not not that you

(41:15):
go in there go I am nevergetting hitd of the past, but no,
you're going to get hit like butthe ideal thing, like I often
wonder that it's like, yeah,but that's where all the buttons are to
knock you out. So of course, of course mind your head, even
if you don't care what it lookslike. All the buttons are in your
face where they're going to knock youout, so so obviously keep that out
of the scenario. Yeah, andwhen you have to be back in school

(41:37):
on Monday as well, nobody's givingnobody's giving me. What is your surname?
Now? Did you say, haveyou a cool Mexican sergn? No?
Over here, you don't know overhere. You don't change your surname
when you get married. Just ifyou have children, they have two surnames.
They have the paternal and the maternalSo it's like everyone here has like,

(41:58):
yeah, the their dad's right.Yeah, Now what happens. What
happens. Say, when two peoplemarry with two double barrels, they're not
getting four. Yes, it's thefirst one. It's the first one,
which just so it's the paternal one. Then that carries on. It's always
paternal and maternal so like my yes, so like for example, my my

(42:21):
husband is Carlos is read given allus Roblado, yes, so like if
we have children, then it'll beRoblado Mabington because I don't have a second
one anyway, which is probably abit weird. But as I do for
the first names as well, we'lldo an Irish name and a more typical
Nexican name. Just I like that, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Juan,

(42:44):
you know I like that. Yeah, I know, I just picked
in the girl's name. But Isaid, I do like the idea a
great dancer, not and it's justprobably a great dancer. I don't know.
I'm not great. And he doesn'tdance much, is there. Yeah,
I can't imagine some of the teachhim. Yeah, missus Babington arriving

(43:07):
in like with the eyebust open,like you're not giving her any golf though,
sure you're not, Like you know, it's one thing if if you're
you're teacher, you know plays,I don't know soccer at the weekend,
But if you're your teacher is apro fighter at the weekend, You're like,
Jesus right, better pull my socksup here, this is not normal.
Well, I've just started at anew school, so they don't know

(43:29):
yet, but I'm going to leaveit go as long as possibly before they
start searching videos on the internet andask you about your husband as to why
you were coming in with two blackeyes. You're like, what once it's
better that the normal boxer for thatreason. Yeah, yeah, because I
I just like this school that I'vejust started, Like I did the interview

(43:51):
a week before my fight, andI was like because they were like,
oh, we need a science teacherbecause the teacher has left, and like
when can you start? And Iwas like next Monday, Like I was
like, I'm fighting this weekend.I was like that's the earliest. I
have a few things to finish up, Like I'm still you know, okay,
okay, fair enough. And Iwas like, oh my god.

(44:13):
I was like I better not likeon my first day at a new school.
I can't have a black white Really, it's a great president. Though
in all fairs like okay, missus, because nobody wants to, you know,
they the Mexicans probably would point itstraight out. Do you know where
it's here? It's going you knowthe free to ask? Yeah, exactly
here they'd be like, what happenedyour face? White? Hey, white

(44:36):
one, what happened to your face? Yeah? Literally, Like it could
be like on the Metro, whichis the underground, like and you're like
squashed because it's so pattern. They'lljust start like talking to you, like
what happened to You're like, there'sno no filter, no no barriers,
Like you know, I like it, just like I like talking to toddlers
because they'll just they'll just point outthings immediately. They'll just they don't care

(45:00):
how you feel about the moment.You're like, why is your face hurting?
I love that. That's literally.I remember like when I first came
here, someone had like a scarand the person said, oh, what
happened to your face? And Iwas like, oh my god, I'd
never asked that because like what ifthere's some traumatic story behind it? Then
I was just blurted out like there'sno no filter at all. But yeah,

(45:24):
it's nice it's refreshing sometimes, butI mean you could probably catch you
off guard on a hungover Monday orsomething like that. Like sometimes like I'm
like, I'm tired. I justwant to go into the market, buy
my stuff and come home and everyone, where are you from? And you
know, like when you're just notin the mood to talk? But it

(45:44):
is nice asend. They're so friendly, like and so like genuinely like interested
in where you're from and what areyou doing here? Like why do you
want? Like we're all they allwant to go to you know, the
United States, And I'm like,but why do you want to live here?
You start making up random reasons,you know, Caism, Catholicism,
I'm mad really big into it,and you guys do it so well.

(46:08):
Just random reasons. Yeah probably,yeah, just up. But yeah,
they're they're like, but why areyou here? But I'm like the opposite.
I'm like, when I hear aboutthem going to the States, I'm
like, why would you want togo there? So much better here,
Like your food is better, it'scheaper, You've got like more culture,

(46:28):
there's so much to see, it'sso beautiful, the people are it's just
amazing. I'm like, why wouldyou want to go there? I'm like,
yeah, I know, and Ioften wonder. I think it probably
not saying it's a set of trend, but it seems to be the the
the obvious out to go to America. I don't Jesus Christ. I mean
sure, any Mexicans I ever metwhen I was living in America, the

(46:50):
christ the lad's work their backs off, like Jesus Christ, bise jobs.
It's not at home, It's notIt's not that good here. Trust me.
I don't have less money but becomeYeah, you've got family time and
they've got like there's so much morethan money sometimes, you know, it's
so like so much richer what theyhave. So is that the crack?

(47:13):
Would you for cocon? This iswhy I'm this turned into a cooking podcast.
By the way, she needs boxingfood. So like, are you
going to the supermarket? Like aredo you? Is it all the market?
Is it the market? Because Ilove the notion of that that you
can actually dip down and get freshgrub. Yeah, I'm right beside,
Like I mean, there is supermarketslike shad Relly Walmart, but I'm right

(47:36):
beside the market here and I geteverything in the market like and it's there's
just so much like fruit vegetables,like you know, it's just good.
Like they know they know me sowell now and I'm so boring that I
probably because of the diet, havethis, you know, eat the same
stuff probably at least Monday to Fridaybreakfast dinner. So they're like same as
usual, Like yeah, like justlike get my you know, my hat

(48:00):
in four steaks, I have myyou know, the same vegetables the same
first they're like no, no,like they don't even ask me anymore,
but yeah, I get everything inthe markets beside where I live. I
love them. The main questioned thespuds. What are the spots? Like
are they good? Yeah, I'vegot I mean like I make spots here.
My husband now is like is addictedto mash buds an invasion tiny invision.

(48:27):
Yeah, for Christmas, I'll bebringing a big pot mash but it
is so it will be whatever withtortillas and mash spuds. There are two
nations combined, but but it ismore common. Like when my parents came
for Christmas and my mother's like dothey have chips? And I'm like no,
man like like just like you're inMexico just to like embrace it,

(48:52):
like you know, like a fewchips on the side of you know,
they don't do chips here like astortillas comes with everything, and I love
that. So I'm they're trying tofind somewhere that like does like normally,
like there's little like places on thestreet that like, do you like fry
up chips? Like they have likelittle stalls, like random ones, so
like we're like going to one forlike a burger and going to the other

(49:14):
one for chips, like to keepher happy, you know, any of
them jelapinos and now do they Idon't touch them? Je yes, Dad's
like, oh, I'll be onthe tilet after this. I'm like no,
just like I'm not gonna tell themnot to make it like no spicies
of us like, but yeah,they just can't change, you know,

(49:35):
just steak and steak and spots iscomparatively, in all fairness are our cuisine.
I know. I was not aa South African guy I was talking
with and he was saying, godit you know Irish people, is it
only potatoes? Is all? Well, yeah, that's all we had for
eight hundred years. We if wehad any hope of making a cuisine in
there. You know, it waspretty much stomped out of us, like

(49:57):
for eight hundred years by the British. We were left with spots and spots
that's it. We had to getimagine that with spuds. That's it.
You know, and stuff doesn't growhere like it grows in Mexico. Do
you know you're not going to getdragon fruits growing at the end of your
garden in Carolina, you know,like yeah, yeah, there's like fruit
I don't even know what the namesof half the fruits are that I see

(50:17):
in there. I'm like, like, can I have one of those?
I want to taste. But that'swhat I'd be. I'd be a complete
nerd on food if I went toMexico because I want to bite every bit
of food that they have, likebecause it's just so colorful. You can
see nearly a white would reflect intheir personality, like you go, yeah,
because you've got class group. Yeah, and when most people like before

(50:39):
they come here, it's just likeoff tackles no one and like, but
like they have so many different disheslike here, Like even they're like their
soups, they're furriers. They've evenstew like dishes they've got, like even
their seafood places, like they justhave they have everything basically like they they
You're just you never want to starve, You're this's just you go outside your

(51:01):
house, walk to the corner andsomeone's serving some sort of a food at
the side of Like there's just Ithink if we go to Ireland with my
husband, it'll be like, youknow, at one o'clock in the morning,
like I'm hungry, I'll be like, well, there's nowhere open,
Like do you like chips? Doyou like chips? Maybe super Max is
still open after the nightclub, butlike, but here, it's just you're

(51:22):
so spiled, Like it's just everywhereyou look there's just food food, food,
Like in the traffic at the trafficlights they're selling lid bags of fruit
or you know, like they're justit's just everywhere, NonStop because everyone's just
out there like trying to sell something. Yeah, I definitely be known as
the white chubby lead if I wasthere for a while, I could be
what I came here, the whiteskinny lead. But now it's the chobby

(51:43):
ladder for that's glass that I lovethe honesty of that so spinning forward,
you're the you want. This iswhere it hit me first because I knew
do you know what do you know? Stuff pops up on your phone and
it's like, well, it's funon I thought you were I actually thought

(52:06):
you were in Mexican but you hadan Irish name and I was. And
that was a couple of months ago. But then it spotted up. I
popped up on tip Newbs. Itwas like Tipperary Woman wins first professional with
Jesus Christ. Yeah, this iswhere it's so that's where I started tracking
you down. So you get youryour first win, which is last.
Yeah. Yeah. I took likeI had two fights previously, and I

(52:30):
had I had since I stopped,I changed where I was training and was
like, I want to take abreak from work. So I wasn't that
happy. Then by the fourth yearthere, and and I was getting married
as well, I had loads goingon, so I want to try to
go back. I think after thepandemic, I was I wanted to go
back online and have a bit morefree time and not be in two hours
of traffic every day. And soI yeah, I changed team and I

(52:53):
was training like a lot harder,and I had a fight to the end
of September, which, like thepromoters, but I like, in my
head and according to everyone else,by two judges, I won every single
round. Everywhere it was like shetook that one yet yeah. I was
like, okay, I know myfirst but like I wasn't. I mean,

(53:15):
I might end up being way moreaggressive, but I was like I
was landing clean punches on her,like her her eye was closed and she
did a lump on her forehead andI did not get touched clean and my
knuckle was the only thing that hurtme. My knuckle was still not recovered.
It's still like swollen after that fight, even in my last bite,
like the first contract throw. Iwas like, oh my knuckle again after

(53:37):
that one, And like one judgegave three rounds to me and the other
two gave three rounds to her,and I'm like, what the out of
four? Yeah. So the promoterwas like, they robbed the Shane.
They robbed it, and I waslike, oh yeah, and he was
like no, no, no,we're gonna protest it. But I have
on her. I don't think likethey never changed decisions anyway. But we
were waiting for the video from thetelevisor and I don't know. My coach

(53:59):
said, you know whoever, someonethat's on her team is someone important.
So he was like he even wasgoing to get kicked out. He was
like asking them, like the judgeis like, oh, did you make
a mistake or what happened? Andthey were like no, like go away,
like you're going to get kicked out, you don't stop, okay?
Yeah? Yeah. Then I wassupposed to be rematching her in my last
fight, and then a week beforehandhe was like, oh, I did

(54:21):
not tell you you're not fighting heranymore? Like no, no, you
didn't. So then it was likeno, but you're going against someone who's
is their deboot And I was likeyeah, but when it's someone's devoot,
you don't know anything, Like itcould be like someone that hadn't national champion.
You know. It's like when hehad her deboot, she was after
coming from the Olympics. I don'tknow what you're getting. But anyway,

(54:43):
and yeah, this time they gaveme. I won all four rounds unanimously,
and so finally fourth fight, Ithought Michael was going to get a
third time lucky, but it wasmy fourth one. But it's definitely not
lucky. Was have you is thereany plan or do you think there be
any hope of was it is?That? Was it? Garcia was the
one's name? Was that her name? I can't even remember the one that

(55:10):
I just bought, the one,the one that you definitely like, Karen
Avila, I think Garcia something,Yeah, something like that. Yeah,
would you any hope of getting I'mputting closer on that. So she was
like she was supposed to be takenand then apparently she I don't know what
the reason was, like she wassick or something, but like I had
a good feeling. I was like, because she knows that if they're asking

(55:32):
them for the rematch, you know, and she knows she didn't win,
like but but apparently she was goingto take it. So I don't know
if if we can try and seefor the next if we can still push
for the rematch. But we'll seewhat happens anyway. Probably I won't fight
in January because I need to getused to being full time working and treat

(55:53):
it again. Yeah, so maybemaybe for maybe for the end of February,
we can have a look and seesee if you can get it.
And it's not sure, it'll justhave to be someone else. So what
are the what are the chances ofI think this, This would be amazing
to get you on a card inArler the UK. Yeah, it would.
I would love to. I thinkI'd like to to get it at

(56:15):
least a couple more wins now,to get like my record. Yeah,
you know the way unfortunately, boxingis a business and when you know,
the normal way they do is youhave a really good promoter and they build
you up and you get this likeyou know, you're ten and O or
your five whatever, and you knowwhen it's always all the four or no
person is going against someone who's liketwo twenty that has twenty you know,

(56:37):
and they're a journeyman or whatever.And I was like, right now,
if I go there, they're goingto say you're a journey man. Not
because I've got one win and threelosses accordant to my record. So I
want to at least have more winsthan losses first, because when you go,
you know, like to the UKor somewhere, yeah, you want
to be going with the winning record. I think otherwise it's just going to

(56:57):
be like yeah of course, yeah, yeah, yeah, because it is
it's well, it depends, likemaybe if it's a small show when it's
against a similar fighter that's got afew losses as well, but like if
you're on a big, a bigcard with a big promoter against their undefeated
star, like you're you know whatthey're building you as. Yeah, yeah,
you're very different. Yeah, youknow what it is like, it's
a business at the end of theday, Like it's I mean, I

(57:21):
think here where when I'm fighting,it's less. So it seems to be
a lot a lot of the timeon the shows that I've been on,
they are a bit more fifty tofifty. But I've been told a couple
of times when I didn't pay anyheat took but like a few times no
they have like obviously that nationalism,no, because it's like Mexico course.
Yeah, and even when in thatlast bit that they that you know that

(57:43):
I should have won but I didn'twin, Like like they play this song
that's a really love Mexicans. Wego to war and everyone's like singing it
and everyone's like Mexico, Mexico,you know, like shouting for the you
know, even though like the peoplethat don't know either of us obviously,
like I have people that are onmy side and she has people that are
on her side. But the peoplethat don't know either way, they're like,

(58:04):
you know, that's the same.It's gonna be the same in Ireland,
like yeah, yeah, like theyhave to make a villain. They
have to create a villain, likebecause there is a storage boxing like yeah,
like before I was like, no, no, I don't think it's
like that, but then in thatlast person, obviously it must be something
because there's no way in hell thatI lost that fight. But but anyway,

(58:25):
we're we got our wins, sowe just hopefully keep on the on
the winning path now for for afew fights. But yeah, I think
at least like now that there's becauselike Irish professional female fighters, we're like
there's about six of us, arelike there's so few. Like when I
had my first fight, I waslike I was laughing, like I was

(58:47):
looking on you know, box wrickand you can search like by country and
buy weight class, and it waslike because I was lightweight, So it's
Katie Taylor number one. She madeback. There we go, I'm good
now I can dieet of you.I'm might be number two to Katie Taylor,
like I've got like two losses orthree, you know, and I'm

(59:08):
still number two. He's like Katie, because there's no like it's gonna change
soon because their amateur team is absolutelyamazing. When they all start turning over,
a professional Ireland is gonna there's apathway now too, Like I mean,
because this is the thing when somebody'sbeating down the brush in front of
you, at least you can go, oh Jesus Christ, this isn't It's

(59:30):
almost like the the Australians doing theirfitness in the morning, like it doesn't
seem so weird now, you know. There's you know, Irish mailboxers for
the longest time and it was,you know, a male dominated sport.
But I think definitely it's great tosee it and peer will be surpassed to
in her time, like it willhappen like you know, but you know,
for I mean, she is aninspirational character, I think, just
to men and women, like justkeeping the head down and getting the job

(59:52):
done in diversity. Like so butI do I do you know what,
Let's have a let's have shande KatieTaylor. I think it's it's it's going
to be why not. I don'tsee why not. It's you're probably taller
now, are ye? Yeah,yeah, I'm taller. I'm one seventy

(01:00:14):
three and I think she's I'm notsure, maybe one six eight or something
and I can't remember, but yeah, I'm taller than Okay, she's just
stucky, isn't. She's got aneck on her like break pure break.
Yeah, it's got yeah. Yeah, because even like I'm I'm lightweight and
my coach is like, no,I think you can go to super feather
and I'm like, I'm like,what are you on about? Like I'm

(01:00:35):
tall, like you know, I'vebut like I've been making Like when I
first came to Mexico, I wasseventy four kilos. I was traveled for
a few months and I put upa few but yeah, now like when
I went pro, I was like, no, super lightweight, Like I'm
definitely not gonna be able to dolightweight, like I have to cut my

(01:00:57):
arm off. And I ended upgoing on the a proper plan and I
ended up coming down to the lightweightand I haven't went up very since.
So actually now when I'm like whenI weigh in and I the next day
like, I'm I'm going up likeone kilo like and everyone said no,
no, that's you need to go, like because most people like will blow
up the next day. So that'swhy I'm like maybe even though I'll go.

(01:01:19):
I was actually going to go superfeather for the in my last one,
but then they said, oh no, because it's the rematch. She'll
say no if you say that's whatyou have to do in lightweight. And
then when I ended up when shefell three of the week before, they
were like, oh, it's goingto be at like a catch weight at
sixty two and a half kilos.So I was like, well that I
don't need to even I'm just goingto keep even on a diet now because

(01:01:40):
I'm already sixty two and a halfkilos like I wasn't, but I just
I think that in the last year, with the level of training I've been
doing, like without even being ona diet, I haven't gone on a
bove like sixty three kilos. Sowhat I'm like, what's super featherweight?
Then? What is that fifty ninefifty nine? You do that handy?
You do that like now because I'mnot going because lightweight is sixty one sixty

(01:02:07):
one kilos two hundred grams, andI'm like, I haven't went above sixty
three when I'm like after my fights, like, so I'm like, geez,
yeah, yeah, So I meanit would be I'll be interesting just
from your point of view to seewhat kind of power difference you'd have coming
back up. Yes, do youknow what I mean? You go,
you weigh in at fifty nine,you come back up to whatever, sixty

(01:02:29):
two two or something. Yeah,you know what I mean, gozlin allo
water the next day, like toget any electro lites to get back up.
Be interesting to three extra kilos behindyour punch to do you know in
that in that's what my coach issaying, is that you're given away an
advantage. Was like, and thenyou'd have the hight, you'd have high
two on top of that. Jesus, that could be. That could be

(01:02:49):
devastating actually because that'd be very veryinteresting. See because I was thinking of
Christ, you like five six kilosto shed off, like, which is
hefty, but when you've no,yeah, you get it down to fifty
nine al right for the day.Yeah, Like, because I haven't been
like dehydrating or anything like I've beenjust on it, you know, so
even if it's just the last minute, like one kilo of water or something

(01:03:10):
extra and then get it back thenext day. I mean, the guys
in America do kilos of that's horrible. It's horrible, Like another I wouldn't.
I wouldn't want to do that,And women can't as much, I
don't think as men because retain waterand yeah, messes up everything. But
but like still, yeah, sowe'll see. Maybe the next one I'll

(01:03:35):
try super feather. It'd be justit'd be an interesting experiment for you to
see what kind of power you've gotbehind your point, wouldn't it Like that'd
be cool? Yeah, do youknow? Just yeah, you should if
you should feel yeah, you shouldhave extra, should feel stronger. And
it really like once you don't obviouslykill yourself to make the way and you
don't recop, like if you don'trecuperate or whatever, but if you if

(01:03:57):
you feel do it comfortably, youshould I should have feel stronger at it.
I love it. This is sohopefully we're going to see early next
year. So if January February weshould have yeah, I think yeah,
in the late February probably at leastbecause I want to, because I like,
because I have just gone back toworking full time and I'll be back.
I'm on holidays netil the age ofJanuary. Well, I'm still training,

(01:04:20):
but I mean like to get usedto it's like it's going to be
difficult again because it was difficult thefirst time. When you're training, you're
working seven thirty to three thirty,and then you come home, you go
to the gym for two and ahalf hours. You you know. But
I want to break myself back ingently to doing the two together so that
it's not you know, I don'tjust I end up just getting like that's

(01:04:42):
what happened to me when I wasin my first year, Like I was
just getting sick all the time becauseI wasn't sleep I wasn't sleeping enough,
and I was trying to train,kill myself training and having to work.
And yeah, and you have tobe you know, it's just a school
teacher. So I have to havemy head on my show. Listen,
just fucking knocking on the head forthe day. Jesus. I can't.

(01:05:04):
I can't now, I can't.We should bring Yeah, So, what
what is the what is the whiteone again? Where where it's like g
g U with the two dots overthe cooler, where this has been a
pleasure. Need were the blanket fromCarrick From carric sure, I'm not like

(01:05:30):
you, you know, we needto do something really Mexican, like Mexican
up Carrick on Sure like, isthere some way we can get dad?
My dad's like, open a gymhere, open the box and maybe maybe
we go in a few years we'llopen a Mexican boxing gym a boxer as
well, So open a Mexican restaurantplease, just just maybe the two of

(01:05:55):
them, maybe we'll have they anything, anything at all. Again. Yeah,
we moved from Dublin. We werein Dublin like ten years, myself
of my wife and that we're backdown in rural Tipperary issues from Dublin Ridge,
but with some very good Mexican restaurants. So I could. Let me
just tell you the box of oldEl Paso that you're get in Tesco does

(01:06:17):
not quite caught it. It's no. I was trying to explain them here.
I was like, oh, wecan get He's like, no,
there is Mexican food like to buythese boxes. The kids like, it's
not no, no, but dothey have there's no, there's no Mexican
restaurant and tip is there? Wellno, no, no, there would

(01:06:38):
be wait no, hold on,there's there's kind of a fusion restaurant,
South American fusion restaurant that I haveyet to try. But Cork, Limerick
and Dublin have amazing they have reallygood Mexican. Yeah, like Mexicans who
in Dublin, like there's very Yeah, study in English at least, but

(01:06:58):
God, and you go in there, you can't get a seat because they're
booked out because everybody. Yeah,the group is outrageous, like you know
what I mean? Yeah, yeah, we will. We'll wait for your
even if you are just coming homeand you just sneak as home and out
bit of grobe or something, justkeeping in a soccer and just quests.

(01:07:19):
Thank you so much for coming ontaking the time. No, thanks for
having me. I'll share your yourInstagram And would you will you sign this
off with something real Mexican? Whatwould you say, like roly ours and
everything that's in the middle of it. Oh God, now you put me
on the spot. Do you knowit's signing off by describing me exactly in

(01:07:41):
a Mexican. If a Mexican,if I was walking down the street my
new name, what would a Mexicancall me? I'm not gonna I'm just
gonna for your white perfect I'm takingthat. I'm not going to jump on
the board a skinnier faster. Ilove honesty. I'll take honesty that still

(01:08:06):
do Melas. Thanks for me nowhereis talk to you again, and thank
you very much to the Flammablanca.Ill wom the white One or maybe all
I know is I'm starving after thatamazing podcast. Thank you very much.
Aid that was class. Wasn't thatinspirational stuff? You can kinda get it

(01:08:30):
done regardless, and you can tradeblows with the best one. I love
it. So she moves back homeand opens a Mexican restaurant just up the
road for me. Listen, youheard all the dates and begin the show
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(01:08:55):
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platform you're able to, on Instagramor whatever else, just to let more
people know about it, bring theminto the fold. Be smashing right.
I can't wait to get finished withthis watery thing so I can stuff my
face with the entire world supply ofcheese. I have a Christmas everybody,
Thanks for listening.