279 - Cllr Máirín McGrath - The Tom O Mahony Show

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Oh well, what's the crack everybody? How are you getting on? Welcome
to another episode of the Tamo ManShow. Guess what I have, Tama
mine? How you geting? Areyou will? It is Friday the I'm
gonna say seventeenth. I think it'sseventeenth to me, as you will have
gotten this, Yeah, patrons,as I always got this night before.
Hey, I want to tell youabout a couple of games coming up this

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Friday tonight or this Jesus I've losemy mind tonight as you will this Friday
today as you will be hearing this, or if you're hearing it later than
this, then the other day tonightis Oh wait, why am I even
tell you? It's sold it's soldout. My brand new comedy club at
the dun Garvin Comedy Club at threesixty Cookoufs is with Fred Cook and it's

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sold out. But you know what, if you're like, damn it,
I'm gonna love the same Fred Well, he is in my other comedy club,
the mother the motherland of my comedyclub, the other one over in
care In Tipperary at the Hill.There are tickets still available for that.
On Saturday twenty fifth, there areticket for Neil Delamare on the twenty nine
to June in the Hill, butthey're nearly sold out. I don't know

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Moving on to today's guest, veryvery excited. We record in the

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green room of my beloved Hill ComedyClub in care which was a perfect place
because that's where should be having heror launch rally this weekend, this common
weekend. A great person has introducedme to the benefits of local politics and
paying attention to him and whatnot.It's the mighty Counselor, Maureen mcgret.

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Maureen mcgret. Yeah, I justshocked you there, like Jesus. Welcome
to the green room of the HillComedy club to finally be here. I've
been downstairs, been at the comedyclub. Yeah, I've never been exclusive
enough to get upstairs. Do youknow what? You will be one of
the very few that will ever beallowed up here, Like you know what
I mean, it's some wild thingsalready said to each other say yeah,

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from what I've seen downstairs in frontof a crowd, I can't imagine what
goes on it. It's weird anddark. But you have to go there
to get yourself up to that.Yeah, yeah, get into the zone.
You can't walk down and go yeah. Yeah, you know when they
come down, they're ready first.Yeah, but you know what you feel
it in the room though that room. Everybody's saying it like it's what's known

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as a hot room like that.Not because we have an actual brand new
air conditioning system in to Tom Carlyand Marie Carle happy days, but we
everybody says it like Chris, youcan't come into this in first gear,
you know what I mean, honestto god, Like it's grat I never
time I've been there, it's beenthe last night was wild. That was
yeah, that was something else I'vegot. I Normally you get a couple

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of maybe one or two clips thatyou can just throw up as promo and
stuff like that. I'm like,Jesus, Christ's about twenty clips there,
and I'm having to bunch them togethernearly. I don't want to, you
know, pepper people with it.But like, what I thought was the
funniest was you know when your introslot was there and you just made such
comedy out of who was in theroom before any of your guests were here,
Like it was just, oh mygod, I thought there were plants

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in the audience. So the whysometimes I'm like, at this front row
is getting better and better, Likeand I made the mistake of being in
the front road the first time Iwas here. Oh gee, I wore
I'd warned you, and you stillcame in late, being a pure politician.
Jesus, I was at ten andyou come in and and now I
was with my two friends and Iwas like, guy, I think we

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actually need to go, and they'relike, no, what should we have
tickets? I was like, yeah, but I think it's like and then
and everybody's start where I think you'regoing, no tree seats together. So
I took them for the team andsat in the front room. You will
never do it again. Yeah,I didn't. You know what you didn't
go to I didn't, but itwas it was funny, and I I
accepted it. It was good tobe fair ninety nine. And you can

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spot the people that are no way, no way. And there's a kind
of flicker in the ride that says, if I go here, this will
fall off a cliff. Yeah,do you know what I mean? Like
there was a chap in the frontrow and he was kind of looking at
me like, oh Jesus Christ,like he was sweating through his nostrips.
You could see him. But Ijust had a feeling all I'll be doing
is poking a poor devil. Now, who I know, it's not even
for he's going to say he's anaccount. He's gonna say, ye know,

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he doesn't like his life. Youknow you knew why, Like he
just and he came up to Chagansnews to him and thanks so much for
not talking to me. No,I know, it's it's it's too good.
But like you just get ever writtenout of people, do you know?
You know it's mad? He ismad? How people, especially the
more and more I do crowd workbecause I was never really a crowd word

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comedian, but I forced my selfhere opening my own club. And no,
because I don't want to. Idon't want to step on the material
side of things because people are peoplewill there's a role for the host and
a role for the comedy. Yeah, and I did not say never the
Twain should meet. But at thesame time, you got to get the
crowd going for sure. And Ithink as well, because it's like,
like it's such a cool venue.It's so intimate everybody and it's a small

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area of people. Everybody knows eachother, so like it makes it even
funnier, do you know? Andwhen when you rip the pace out of
somebody there, everybody else in theaudience he knows who they are or about
them, you know, so theycan all join. And I'm spoiled for
rotten with that place. I've saidit before ago, Would you stop laughing
so hard? I'll be trying anew bit of material and think, well,
that's perfect. I don't ever needto touch that. That's ready for

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a stage. Absolutely, And likethe imagine people that I've met since and
they're like Jesus was in a townman, he's comedy club tonight he was
he was calling near the audience.I was like, oh, stuff,
but anyway, sure, look itwas grand. Yeah, as they say,
no, publicity is all. Publicityis good, such thing as bad,
like and to be fair being inpolitics. There's a lot of good

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gun after now. But I didn'tyou could have that is fair. And
I came out of that night whenI said to my friends, do you
know what? It was grand?Except for the chuckle on the chain,
it would have been way worse.It's like if you sound like somebody who's
been to like a you know,a rootnan or something like. That's honestly
it was. It wasn't as badas I thought it was going to be.
But I'll never make the mistake tosit there again. Yeah, you

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were in the darkness the last day. But I did make reference to you.
I was very tempted to go downafter you actually on that one.
We're on a role here with thismad young one that was gone, hey
are you from bench or something likethat. I'm like, Jesus Christ,
what is this? Yeah? Haveyou not picked up on what the role
of me is? Yeah? Yeah, exactly, Oh my gosh, no,
but it's it's great. But that'swhat I think it's so special.

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It's because the whole community. Youknow, there is a kind of community
about it, you know, andyou're the same people'll come back all the
time. But it's brilliant and it'sa credit yeah too, because like you
know, you started it from nothingand what we call the best comedy of
an Ireland, the best comedy clubin Ireland. I don't care. I
don't care anybody called any of thecomics coming here and you see the comics

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set could possibly be I'm not gonna. I'll tell you off. Keep the
secrets by God has gotten out yetand you got to your line up now
for the next Mine is really goodand I often like people have said to
me, God, I have beenin there and it looks class like yeah,
I'm like, yeah, get thereAnd they always say, well,
by the time I get to bookmy tickets, it's sold out. That's

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like, there's nothing I can doabout that. But at the same time,
it's hard been so popular. Well, what do you know what it
is though, is I think we'rebreeding a comedy Like we're breeding a comedy
vibe down here, but that Irishpeople don't have, Like if you're in
the UK, A town this sizewill have a comedy club. Yeah,
it's they just go to stuff yousee in the UK. It's a thing

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since i'd say Shakespearean days, justin their genetics to go and go.
Well, we'll hand over the night'sentertainment to the person on the stage and
they'll go and they'll sit there,like I did Gigs. I did one
man play before and it did finehere in Ireland. It's a big,
big play. It was a bigproduction and it's work. Oh my god,

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sixteen thousand words, oh my god, two hours on stage and that
is tough, the toughest thing I'veever done in my life. But I
remember we went up the North andtheaters that were in areas that wouldn't be
synonymous with a pillow called omehni Yeahyeah yeah, or with my excellent yeah
no way, because it didn't care. It was a thing to be on.
The man was on the stage,and why wouldn't you go it's on?

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No absolutely, but I think that'syeah. People are getting into that
now and it's just something different totally, because like the two girls I went
with the last time were different tothe two I went before, and like
all the time. I'd love togo to that, like you know,
something else, something different to do, and like you have and like you
know, as soon as those slidingdoors close downstairs, you know the girlves
are off well, I think peopleand it's possibly. I mean, you

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have to have your finger on thepulse doon on your job and everything else,
and you're literally talking to people attheir doorstep in the most comfortable area,
which is what I take them outof their comfort. Yeah, for
sure, But what I know whatpeople come up to me and say,
you know, real people who puta lot of heart into the night people.
I want them to just leave theirbrain away. But some people are
very thoughtful, does it. Weget a lot of people who are into

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like mindfulness coming. There's a lotof local mindfulness people. But they come
and you see their stories afterwards.Tagging me in a gun the way deeper
than I meant it to go,like Jesus Christ, trust me, I'm
way shallower than that. But theywhat I notice is people kind of going,
Jesus Christ, this is the thisis the valve. We need it
because they're feeling the pressure of thePC world. I don't feel it personally,

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but I'm their conduit to the tothe Norman world. It's from the
bunker, you know. Yeah,you know first because I say it and
here it's just words. Yeah,and we're going to have some cry.
Yeah, absolutely, And I thinkpeople find it refreshing. Yeah, they're
like, oh Jesus, we cansay whatever you want, whatever you want,
whatever I want. No, it'sit's great. But you just made
reference. You say, you goand take them out of the conference comfort

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zone, your your audience. Andand when I'm at the doorstep, yeah,
I'm trying to compliment them, andyou'd bring them in here and you
shot them. So that's where wediffer. You know, I'm at the
door looking for votes and you know, having a great chat, and you
just rip people's treads. Ironically,though I'm given exactly what they want.
Oddly, it's a weird. Ishould try that door. I'm telling you

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now, I would. I wouldchallenge you right now, and I've challenged
a few people and they won't takeme up on it. Five minutes to
stand up? No, why not? Couldn't? Oh my god, we
would build you to five minutes,a five minute opening act. I could
build you write it with you writeit for you and then train you.

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I've done it before with people,loads of people. I've done public speaking
courses for people. I swear toGod and we keep it clean. We
absolutely keep it clean, keep itimage friendly. But at the same time
enough fully self deprecation in it thata Tipperary person has because we have that
deep inness with my job and thedifferent stories I find. I mean,

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like you could, you could makea good few scenarios and good few jokes
that if I don't think I thinkyou would. I think would be a
good place to push yourself because onceyou break that class in your brain doing
stand up. Everybody says that oncethat class is broken, it never goes
back to you. Never, You'venever the same again. Afterwards, people
do usually say the politicians are jokethey are to people that make the jokes,

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Well, well we'll Vilenski went onto be President of the Ukraine and
he was an actor. He wasan actor. Commit he used to get
his gentles out and play piano onstage. Oh my god. Yeah,
I'm not saying you got to gothere. No, no, no,
god. I did not know that. So they kept it clean when they

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said he was just an actor.That's what I Yeah, they kind of
wipe that one from the Google search. Yeah, he was, Yeah,
the Americans can do that for you. It's all about your friends. You
know who your friends are. It'sit's it's a thing. I think though
that it was able to help himto just immediately switch into whatever gear he
needed to do. Like you'll oftenfind that with stand ups. It's not

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that we're good actors or whatever,but you just kind of go, well,
I can go to a place anywherein my mind because I've done the
scariest thing you can do and putout a different hate whatever scenario, for
whatever scenario. Like I do amidweek podcast and it's I talk about the
gigs that they do because they docorporate gigs, and it's so different,
like so it's a much of meinto the other world. Oh well,

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it's it's so different for me,like too, you're kind of going,
I'm not radio voice, Tom putit to say, and there's a bit
of ripping ribbon goes on. Butat the same time, it's suit and
tie stuff like and it's very verydifferent, you know. Yeah, it's
it's it's enough like you'd you'd beprobably go, I'm actually more impressed with
him right now that he's holding ittogether. He's not swearing. Because there

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are some in this scenario, Iimagine some of the big companies or whatever.
You just I mean, what youget a lot of time is people
from like I did one from MicrosoftMiddle least a couple of weeks ago.
That was weird that out and goteven super weird. It got super weird
in the Burlington One. People Iknow, I won't do stand up.

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I refuse to do a stand upfor them. I refuse they can go
get somebody else if they want that, because I think it's I actually think
it's for me. It's the mostprecious art outside of my family. It's
the most precious thing I have,and there's no way I would allow it
to be dirtied in that. It'slike having a class car and going any
chance you put a trailer on theback. You know, it's the same

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thing. But what I'll do isI will just crowd work, walk walk
around and do crowd work with himand stuff like that, and make sure
there's prize is to be given awayand stuff and we again, though I
bring it down to fairly base level, like I do I've seen you in
action do that kind of work aswell for you you have at the Yes,
you know, yeah, that wasactually great. Do you know what?

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That was fair heartwarming for me.Even afterwards, I was like,
ah, because you know, againin my head I was switching on whatever
had gone all right, Daniel,Yeah, But at the same time I
was kind of gone, god,I I do I have the energy for
this and I got to drive toBelfast afterwards. But at the same time,
I know I roped you into that. Yeah, so if you refuse

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to do this podcast, we weregoing to have fallen out. Yeah.
Yeah, But I came away andI went, oh, I get it
now. I get why you wouldwork locally with people, but I get
it here even because it's very local. And I absolutely that guy would fight
to the deaths for that club,you know what I mean, because it's
just as you said, the communityof people, the boss that they're getting,
and yeah, it's it is mucheasier for me when I can say

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yeah, you know and slag galblyyou know, when where other people don't
get that opportunity and it's the localatres. And I was nearly a bit
guilty at first because I've got Ihave one up on every comic that will
ever step on the stage. Butnow I just go to take it.
You know what, I laughed,But I found so funny is the last

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night I don't know it was Barry. You know, we know Barry.
We won't give it the second names, but like recently got done and you
told the whole audience. I waslike, this kind knows everything about everyone.
Barry was running in late from thetoilant. But to be fair to
Barry, Barry was like he wascoming every month and he went, Tom,
I won't be around now next monthbecause of my I'm getting a new

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hip. I'm like, well,you just told me that, Barry,
I think I actually, I don'tthink that was my first first question.
I think I asked him before Iasked him the whole operation from the stage
one night. Oh wayn't you getany cool stuff attached, like maybe a
pennit for something like he was just, well, he loves it like he's
but that's what I love is likethere's he's nearly part of the furniture.
And there's a few people at patRaster and Melanie, you know what I

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mean, they're part of the furniture. They're just going and have a go.
And sometimes real newbie people go,oh Jesus, he just said that
to that gentleman. I know,no, you're fine. Yeah, yeah,
no exactly, because sometimes I like, oh, gee, everybody knows
about Barry's hip. Now for forthe listeners, Barrier's hips going good.
He's canvasing with me. I'm tellingyou it's working well, Titan, he

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said, yeah, he said hewas going out canvasing. Now let's get
into the meat and boat. We'vebeen kissing my arms for fifteen minutes.
But here's the thing, right,I don't I stay away. A lot
of my friends are so deeply intoAmerican politics and stuff like that. I'm
like, we don't live in America. Why do you care? Yea,
I lived in America and I didn'tcare about the politics then. But it

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is very it's it is soap operaand they paint a great story whether you
like it or not. But yousee people, when I see people getting
influenced by it. You know,I'm quite left or I'm quite right.
And you're what you're from, BelnaSlow. You know, we're gone very
into like identity politics and people.What I think is that the sad thing

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about the way society's gone now isjust like you're either one way or not
and we can't talk to the onesover there because they are. I think
that's so bad for any society,do you know, Because everybody has differences
and everybody has similarities, do youknow, And like politics is always the
art of collaboration and you know,working together and compromise. But like I

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think, because we're getting so intolike that deep and identity politics and it's
very divisive now. I just thinkit blows my mind when I meet smart
people that I know are smart andthey make their opinions on things purely based
on the tribe that they've attached themexactly. And I'm like, I played
for teams and stuff and played sports. I would disagree with scenarios because I

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was like calling a spade's spade herein the moment here, But that's what
people appreciate, someone who will justsay how they feel, and you know
what I suppose, Like we areobviously a couple of weekscept from an election
at the moment, so I'm outmore than your nice and after the doors,
so you meet everybody and like yousaid, like in their most comfortable
area, like at their front door. And do you know, I appreciate
you, know you someone will tellyou their vote for someone wi tell you

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they're not vooting fair. I'm like, that's as good as anything, because
there's no point everybody is saying they'regoing to vote for you because they're not.
Well, that's yeah, one hundredpercent is nearly like me giving out
to people for laughing too hard atjokes that I'm like that it's not that
funny. I know what funny is. I know the mathematics and what makes
the thing funny. You're just allon a bus right now. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, So you'll needsome cue cards. Yeah, that's the

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thing in China, did you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I don want is her name.She's she's actually married to a gallaway
man. She lives they live inShanghai. And she was say, in
some clubs they actually have like Qcards for the audience, but they're actually
Q lights for people to know whento laugh. At these established comedy clubs,
the underground scene people know what they'reat. But the underground scene is

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illegal because it goes against the Ministryof Art. You have to submit your
whole, you know, the madRiffin that I do for no, none
of that. You've got to submityour entire set, filmed on camera and
the text of it. Submit yourset to the Ministry of Art. They
will either approve it. If theyapprove it and you take it to the
club and you deviate from it andthey find out huge, fine, you

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might do time in jail. Mygod, yeah, what like in saying
all that, like whatever is wrongwith our country? Look, you're not
there, like I don't know.Oh yeah, you can still see what
you want. Look, we wantto clarify the Chinese. Fine bunch of
leads. Did we get here?Yeah, we ended up with China,

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but we were talking about like thecanvas inside of things. So okay,
we'll start there, right. BecauseI'm new to local politics. We have
your rally at the weekend here atthe Hill, and I'm very new because
I never involved myself in it before. Because and an odd thing happens to
you as a stand up comedian too. You become very lone wolfish because you

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know there's nobody with you on stage. You're not in a band, you're
not in a troop, you're notin a cast. So you do find
yourself just going well, I'll justpat on my own canoe and oh wait,
we're not even considered an art form, so you know what, Oh
incredible. It just will not betouched. It will never be touched.

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I guess, so, yeah,I guess so. But look, you
could you can be a juggler anartist. Now. I'm sure there are
ways around it where you could submitpossible, but look, but regardless,
that's how I always kind of felt. It was like, well, and
places I lived too. I livedin Dublin, I lived in Wicklow and
stuff, and I was like,what, I don't even really feel a
part of any community here. AndI cared not for Europe and as sure

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as hell didn't care for my localarea all I ever, And this is
what happens to Tipperary people. Idon't know what, like, It's ridiculous.
Oh my god, your accent evengets taker when you move away.
There's a society in Dublin, Societyof Tipperary. There's a society of Tipperary
bar owners in Dublin. In Dublin, I know there's a tip society all

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right. I've been at a fewof their gigs. I was in college
in Dublin, and obviously, likeDad spends a lot of time in Dublin
as well, so you know,they always have their annual Christmas Mass and
there are other things, you know, so that's something we need to always
go to. But now I'm backdown here. Now I'm paying attention because
homeowner and stuff, and as maybeI'm about to grow up, maybe,

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but I'm actually concerned about things inmy local area and can we make it
back. And that's why. Alsowith parties, I'm like again, not
that I just us to anybody who'swalking down the street or whatever, but
you're a party. You're just takingyou're taking orders from the party. True
be told your tone, the partyline, and you have no choice.

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So did you deviate from that,you are out life, you know what
I mean? If if for thepeople here who don't pay attention to America
or Irish politics, and we doget American listeners. Look at what happened
to Kennedy as soon as he startedlooking good, get out yeah yeah,
you know, and now he's runningby himself. And I think that's why
the independents are on the up.Like obviously I'm an independent cancer at the

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moment, and like I say,I grew up in politics, Like do
you know no other twenty six yearold would be very few? There is,
there is some, but very few. The posters are hilarious actually because
it's like it's no, your postersare great, but what it is,
it's like, let's just say exactlywho you imagine around posters from as politicians

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all around the local area, andthen you hit Marie O Maureen because there's
a Marie sorry, was right besideyou on the turn there, Like oh
there's a jump. Yeah. Ido a lot for the age, the
average age. I bring it downa lot. Yeah, because when I
went the last time, I wastwenty one, which was crazy when I
think back, like, you know, twenty one, I got lectured.

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Yeah what did you study in college? Politics? Yeah? Studied Yeah so
no, yeah I was twenty one. It was crazy back in twenty nineteen.
But I was just finishing. Solike I was always there was eight
kids in my family and like wow, yeah, so obviously what yeah eight
kids. I didn't think Mattie wenthome? Yeah no, no, no,

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tis so eight kids. We alwayssay that he was really strategic.
He built a campaign team just inhis house, you know, you know,
every night out and we grew upwith that, like and in one
sense it's brilliant. We love it, and like election times are brilliant.
And I suppose I think I gota short straw because I'm the one that
actually was like, oh yeah,you wouldn't be the one now to take

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it on you going in there,whereas like none of my other siblings are
in it publicly, Like do youknow or want to go into it,
like publicly into elected office? Howdid you get harangued? Like I said,
I got the short straw at home, Like I remember everybody like sitting
on the table. So the localelections are coming up, no way,
It was like, well, yeah, do you want to be Yeah,

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I know, I suppose all theway up, like through school and through
college, I was the one thatwas kind of more involved or more engaged,
you know with politics and different stuff. So it was kind of a
natural progression. People like, sowhy wouldn't you do it? Yeah,
you just did politics in college,Like what do you think you're going to
do? You're not now going toAustralia. No, But it was grat

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like so the last election was twentynineteen and it was like four weeks out.
I was finishing my degree in college. I had to take a week
out of those four weeks to goand sit my final exams. Like my
lecturers had seen it on nine orwhatever, and they were like, what
hell are you going? Like you'regoing for election and you're here like like
one lecture there, hilarious. Theother people in your class were probably thinking,

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I'm going to teach this, yeah, like one maybe to be a
journalist or something, and you're actuallygoing, sorry, can I I gotta
go be what I'm what you're teachingme to be. And like, but
that's the thing about college because likewhen I was in college and it was
in Dublin, I worked like parttime for another TV in the doll like
by night or just for someone else, just doing a bit of office work

(26:33):
whatever. So like one night aweek I go in to Leinster House and
so then like by day you bein college and learning all the splitical theory,
and then you go into Leinster House. You're like, oh, that's
kind of the window. Yeah,none of that happens. So it's kind
of funny because you're just like thisis a load of you know, you
know, and like college is agreat but college is not to be all
and end all for act anything,do you know, and like sidetracking there

(26:57):
totally. Like that's where I think, like the growth like apprenticeships and stuff
our class it's great to see.Yeah, because there was a stage where
like everybody has to go to college, you all have to get level aged.
Me, I don't think. Idon't think I wanted to go to
college. I wanted to be awelder. Yeah, yeah, exactly,
but college and because my two sistersare very smart, they were, they
just went, well, you haveto go to college because well, let's

(27:19):
be hondame with shame. And alsoyou know, the government were putting pressure
to go. We need more constructionand years and we need science and that's
literally what as four siblings, that'swhat we went into. Yeah. Yeah,
and so but it was the samething. I remember thinking, Jesus,
I reckon it could be really creativesculptor welding. I was good at
it. Yeah, but no,no, after college you go and my

(27:41):
parents had no pressure to were likewhatever. Yeah. Yeah, but it
was just a kind of societal viewand just even for schools I think at
the time. But now that's thankfullychanging. But going back to college,
and like, I remember my veryfirst day of college back in twenty sixteen,
and like for all of the podcastlisterers who don't, no, I'm
obviously Matthew mccra's daughter, famous slashinfamous TV. Depends on what way you

(28:04):
want to look at it, that'sfine, But my very first day of
college, like Matti has had hisfew public kickups, Like you know,
one day back in I think liketwenty twelve in the Kenny teacher at the
time, was on the front coverof Time magazine. Okay, Time magazine,
Yeah, and like it was likethis big thing, but like the
country was just at the bottom.We were literally up Ship's Creek at that

(28:29):
stage, you know, and everyonesaid how great it was and the Kenny.
Now maybe I have the year wrong, but yeah, somewhere around that
year anyway, I think you're year. And then when I was in college
at the time when industry, hewas on the front of Time magazine.
So Mattie's being Mattie stood up onthe door and he's like everybody's talking about

(28:49):
Endy Kenny, like you know,on Time. So what he meant to
say was that he's on the frontof Time magazine. You know, they're
as if he's on play By magseeing they're making such a big deal out
of it. Of course hes sohe turned around, so he was like

(29:12):
everybody talking about and the Kenny inthe front of Playboy magazine. That's what
he said, like and everybody likethen kept talking and every laughing or like
in the dog chamber, what didI say? You know? So anyway,
some smarters with good photoshop skills,like went online got a photo of

(29:33):
match he reading some book photoshopped Playboyinto it like and that bant that photos
went viral, you know it was. It was no, definitely humiliating at
the time, but like when yougrew up in a family like mine,
you just have to grin and beer, you know, you take it on
the chain. So we got overit. But that was back like I
was in secondary school at that time. So fast forward back to my very
first day of college, a veryfirst day. Knew one person and this

(29:56):
big lecture hall of a tree hudredpeople. It was just like an induction
and like one of the course coordinatorshe was doing again, had just introduction
to DCU and all that crack andhe said, look enjoy college, blah
blah blah. Get involved in thesocieties. I don't want the library to
be like the only place I seeyou. Yes, And then like flip

(30:18):
next slide, be like Mashie,don't be afraid to pursue other interests.
There's my dad on the screen readingPlayboy, and I was and like the
one girl I knew in the class, she was sitting in front of me,
and she looked back at me andshe was like and I was like,
oh my god, I was actuallybut like nobody else knew me in

(30:40):
the class three hundred people. AndI so really quickly like took a snap
of it, and like I foundit funny. I was like mortified,
but likely she did not like waterdrops back, didn't bother me at all,
found hilarious. Sent it into myfamily chat, and I was like,
oh, for God's like, thisis the start of it now,
my first day cottage, and I'malready liked yeah, so tweeted it because

(31:03):
the lecturer in question is a bigtweeter, like and he's like, brand
I just told you to enjoy yourself, so why not tweet? Yeah?
Yeah, So but I tweeted andI was like stopping, like the first
day of college and this happens sohilarious, like laughing, He didn't.
He wasn't sure then was I beingserious or laughing? Sent out a clarification
email that evening, but like justto let you know the picture I put

(31:26):
up with a photoshop didn't mean tocause of your fence, like again,
still laughing. And then a coupleof months later, still going to that
lecture obviously never had met the lectureone to one, had to ask him
for an extension, and I waslike, this is okay. Down the
steps into the lecture hall and Iwas just looking, see can get an
extension on this and like face immediatelyread and he was like, are you

(31:49):
more? I was like yeah,yeah I am. It's gra and he
was like can I just say I'mso sorry, like really really sorry?
And I was like, oh commute, like that's old and it was like
whatever and brilliant and he was likeno, Like I actually thought I was
going to get in serious trouble,like you know, someone else could have
picked it up the wrong way,and I was like, yeah, they
could, you know. I waslike, that's come here, like I
said, water ducks back, butlike it's just kind of where we're at

(32:13):
now people can't really take jokes.But that was the start of it.
That was the start of around themwas the start of that. I'm seriously
insulted. Yeah, yeah, forsure, No, but I was just
like, oh, come here,like that was hilarious. I got great
mileage out of that. I'm stilltelling the story ten years later, like
you know story. And I waslike, it's it's hilarious, like you

(32:35):
do, like I think to ownit in that scenario and obviously MATCHI can
give you know, it's neither andlike and you'd find opposition politicians have noticed
that, like and I'm kind ofgoing like I've been highly unimpressed by a
lot of them, who that's thetruth of it, Like as I hosted
a lot of corporate things and stuff, and one or two like have tried

(32:58):
to run a mile from the scenario, like Jesus, because they know they're
they're well they're not they're assuming I'mgoing to rinse them like freaky boil like
just and did just run from theor you meet them and you're like,
wow, yeah, I think there'stoo Like there's two ends of the spectrum.
Either you have to own it thespeed right, take it, take
it on the chain, Like youknow, you put yourself out there in

(33:21):
the public, you're going to getswagging. But like I think there's two
spectrum of people like either run fromit then or like want you to pick
them up, like like oh yeah, talk about me. They're give me
a bit of you know of course, so like but in that like when
you when into all that inter rollround laught and they're trying to pick a
lot of what they're trying to dois trying to What I find is like

(33:43):
me personally, go ha, thatwas a slipping the song. He didn't
mean to be funny, So Iactually don't really wind Yeah, get to
the point, Maddie, I wantto hear what you gotta say. But
that would be me in in workmode in the scenario. But I notice,
like anything in at all, they'lltry and jump and takes up out
of context. Well do you knowexactly? And I've seen Leo do it
like whoa steady on horse? Nowyou're you're you're poking something, poking only

(34:08):
to buy time. But you knowthere's a bell do you know there's a
time like coming on it? No, for sure, And that's the thing
now and like, I know you'veeven said that at like the club right
downstairs, you don't take videos becauselike one little clip can be taken out
of context so much, do youknow, and he'll be canceled. Well,
the thing is like, I mean, I dare you. But at

(34:28):
the same time, I don't wantthe club to be seen as a bit
shy, do you know that?But I mean it for the lads too,
like because stuff will be said andit might be in the middle of
I saw a guy this again,would have been around twenty sixteen, and
he was a host. He's nota great host, but he's kind of
around a long time, so he'skind of legendary status to their degree.
And a comic had been up wascommenting quite a bit on ourself, saying

(34:55):
one particular thing, how class amI aren't they class? I know you
can't stop looking at him. They'regreat, aren't they terrible? Terrible stuff?
He went back on stage and itwas kind of like us in fairness,
they they are a great pair.And he said he literally for Batom
said her line has said it asshe said it. That just the beginning

(35:21):
of that sentence and the end ofthat sentence were taken and you want to
see the white Knights that jumped onit. These I had some kind of
respect for you before and wha Listen, like his family were getting threats and
everything like like I don't know ifthe same girl came out to defend him.
I don't know souch she did,because in the moment everybody rolled laughing

(35:43):
like like the evident knew but likewhoever seen it on Twitter? And now
the same thing, Like it waskind of okay. I wouldn't have bothered
myself because that, to me wassomeone I've seen the said since. I
was like, well, that's oneof the worst pieces of I wouldn't say
a bad comedy. Yeah, Iwouldn't actually double down on why he should

(36:05):
have got hate because it was justbad joke. That's it. That's what
he should have gotten it for.I was like, sorry, I was
actually just repeating some terrible, terriblematerial, But you're right, that's what
I don't want is in that moment. And also, don't be here hiding
me on your phone. Yeah,people at a concert going video this.
No be at the concert, willyou? Yeah? And I think and
that's a big thing I noticed isthat people Christ didn't even thinking about the

(36:27):
mortgage or my phone or it's great. It's a pure escape escape you know
what that's like. It's a goodmix of like kind of current affairs,
current is and then just pure garbage. You know, that's it. And
it's just like your mind is justin the room and you'll find yourself just
repeating somebody who has said it funny, and I'll just repeat it in their
accent because good accents or whatever.People go, well, clearly he's a

(36:50):
genius. I'm like that. It'sjust we're in a funny form. But
I, like I said, I'vebeen I'm not highly unimpressed. But a
lot of politicians that I've met,and this is probably caught double down on
why I wasn't big on voting aroundthem like that, because like any of
them that I've met, I can'thang my hat on that because I'm meeting
seriously impressive people all the time.Like you meet like comics and you go,

(37:14):
Jesus Christ, you're outrageous, Likeyou're unbelieveably talented life, do you
know? Or you meet and thenyou meet this guy and you go,
you're going to represent what And bythe way, you just want me to
you because you're in no way evergoing to represent me. You're going to
be stuck in South Dublin forever andyou're going to represent the people of Southdublin,
which is fine, But why wouldyou want me to vote for you?

(37:35):
Because I got I what do Iget? A little men? You
know for sure? Yeah, Andit's it's great to have you back in
South Tiptom. You're great. Haveyou joined the Red Service? One?
You? Two more? My verySouth Dublin wife is absolutely tidy. She
is well to the Cethebrary. Now, yeah, I'm telling you, I
know it's it's great, but likeI think it's gassed because like obviously when

(37:55):
we grew up in a family,like guys, like do you know,
first thing you do eighteen on thevoting right, an election can happen just
like that, and like everybody hasreally to vote. But it's funny to
hear that comparison, you know that, like you were never into it,
like and and obviously so many peopleare like that, and like increasingly so
because people are just unfortunately complacent andjust so sick of the sight. Yeah,

(38:19):
do you know what, don't youknow sound like us? Do you
mean, And I'm not saying yougotta get up there and start effing and
blinded. But at the same time, it's a bit let me believe,
Let me believe that you actually believewhat you were saying. Let me believe
it, and like just say justlet's let's sound like you actually believe what
you're saying for a second, becausethe amount of that sounds like it was

(38:40):
literally written by somebody who'd never metyou. And I'm not saying that's the
biggest issue or think about like thegroup think and like the party system,
because it's just like like I knowfor a fact, like do you know
someone of the legislation that goes tothe all the backbench party t d is
don't agree with it because it's soagainst like what their voters believe in the
people who put them there. Butthey're just old like you know, green

(39:02):
embarrassed and go in there and nowand vote the way way till to vote
or and there's the door, likeand it's so wrong because it's anti democratic
of course you know that, andlike like we grew up or like Maggie
was always like a phenomal TV andthat was you know, I've been brought
to Mattie Rallies when I was young. I tell you, it's like the
full Tree sixteen. There we're back. Yeah this Saturday. Yeah, here

(39:25):
we go again. But yeah No, it was always like a real staunch
like phenof All household. But wenever then well like when Dad left I
think twenty ten. Yeah, itwas twenty nine to twenty ten. I
just couldn't tack the you know,Win told helped to vote while the country
was literally going down Swan. Iappre I appreciate that. I also appreciate

(39:47):
the guy just packing it and goingI can't be dealing. Yeah, I'm
going back to farming or digging ditchesor whatever. But a guy who just
kind of went Jesus Christ Almighty,this doesn't align with anything. I vote
my people who I genuinely went outshook hands with at their door. Yeah,
this doesn't align with anything. Yeahfor sure. And like I think,
like like like love, the morehate and whatever. Some people do

(40:10):
hate Mattie. I get. Iknow that, you know, you don't
want to look at Twitter sometimes,you know, Yeah, but people respect
these principals and whatever, you know. And I think when we grew up
in that kind of household and belike, do you know what you stick
to what you believe in? AndI think that has stood to us all.
It was definitely hard sometimes because youknow, you're just you have your

(40:30):
cross and you carry it. Youknow, everybody have a party to back
you like you. Yeah, exactly, but no, that's kind of how
I got into it because I wasalways you know, we knew what we
like believed in or were into orwhatever. So politics was just we grew
up with the shriight, you know. And obviously your your siblings didn't want

(40:51):
to go into it or go intoit into it like and you did.
You went, I'm all in,did you have to build the grow for
acting on behalf of people? Orwere you always that? Like I'm not
saying, you know, I washelping injured hedgehogs on the side of the
road as a child, but likelike for me, like I've I've taken

(41:13):
on a massive a massive amount ofgrowth for that room and the people that
come in there, because this isour people. I'm not comparing myself to
a professional politician, but there aresimilarities. But I don't know what I
always died caring for people? Yeah, yeah, well, like first of
all, like when I did goback in twenty tinenteen, I was like,

(41:34):
oh God, like, am Ireally this? Like kind of like
I said, it was a reallyshort campaign and like all of a sudden,
I was elected, and I waslike, oh shit, what does
happened? Like, oh, I'mnow a public representative? And I actually
found kind of like an identity crisisat the start, right genuinely, because
like normal twenty one year old onthe first of April, first vaprils a

(41:54):
bad day. But like I decided, I nounced my candidacy on the twenty
fifth of April twin nineteen, pollingday voting day was twenty sixth of me,
so like literally went from normal twentyone year old twenty fourth of April
to a public representative on the twentyeighth of me. Like it was like,

(42:19):
oh god, And I was like, how do I balance this?
Because, like like I said,I always want to be true to myself,
and I think that's why I gotelected too, because I was young,
was different and like people, doyou know you can vote from when
you're eighteen, so why can't youlet somebody Yeah that's a in a lower
age market as well, and Idefinitely got that kind of a negative response

(42:39):
too, because there's a two No. For sure, got that a lot
when I went the first time,but like five years on, haven't got
it at all because no, no, no, because I've justified myself.
I've done the work. Do youknow, I the door every day?
Yeah, exactly. But I wondernow if I was going today as a

(43:00):
twenty six year old, would theywere like, oh, you're too young?
Is it just kind of like putme a put down effect? Like
I want? It's something I wasthinking about even on the drive in,
was maybe it's become more of anorm to see at this stage in twenty
twenty four. Now obviously you mighthave gotten a slap, you know from

(43:21):
you know, the old timers going, I know she's up to it this
year. Yeah, but you have, Yes, you've been on the go
for five six years at it.But I also think it's more, it's
more frequent, and I'd say probablymore of a like in all facets of
life now to see people who aren'tthe fuddy dudies anymore in every but it's
so important you know me, youknow, and they're like, oh,

(43:44):
so, why would you be goingfor election? And like, yeah,
for sure, because it's a hardlife, like, don't get me wrong,
but at the same time, Ireally enjoy it. I love working
with people. And that goes backto your first question, Like we grew
up with that kind of attitude ormindset that like people would call to your
house and we looking for help withan issue, or we'd grow up and
like like we're very kind of communityorientated and like growing up like you know,

(44:07):
dependent alarms for older people, yes, and like Dad would have went
around the houses all over Tiping mySt Waterford, fitting those kind of old
person alarms for older people, doyou know, And that gives you a
real sense of kind of importance ofpeople who are isolated and vulnerable, you
know. So I always had that, but like obviously then kind of from

(44:30):
a teenagers wasn't doing that as much, but you always have that sense of
connection to those kind of people.And even people who fitted the alarms for
back when I was a kid,they're still knocking about so they're doing good.
Do you know. I remember beingup here when I was you know,
a child like that. I mean, and that's that's it. But
also I think too, it's Iwondered was it, you know, when

(44:53):
you start, because I knew you'dstarted young, and I was like,
is it is it a female thing? Is it a young thing? And
I think both now but definitely inIreland, I suppose for you know,
since the dawn of Mary Robinson,I'll be saying, I suppose everybody's respect
and sphere of the likes of Margitacherand stuff. So I don't I don't
think maybe it was maybe it was, you know, the old boys club

(45:15):
kind of thing, but I thinkit's it's when you look at their CEOs
now, yeah, you know whatI mean, Like you know, there's
it's not an odd thing anymore tosee a woman running the show and a
thing you know, absolutely not andlike which is good and like I'm not
one of these like I hate thepatriarch woman, and I wouldn't I hate

(45:37):
myself if I did, because likethe sof like we vote for the pale,
male stale candidates, you know,and I'm like, well, magic's
kind of paying male stale, andI you know, I'm happy, I'm
happy with people. I'll be paleand and I think that's such a stupid,
like comparison thing for people to say, because like at the end of

(45:58):
the day, like the electorate votefor who they want to vote for,
So like by insulting an electric representative, you're insulting the people that vote for
them. And like you're already youknow, and you know you're you're often
a bad start if that's what yourline is. Or vote to me because
I'm not paying me on stale,yeah, do you know? Yeah?
But like at the same time,I would never like to think i'd like

(46:21):
pulled the woman card. Yeah,And I'm not into like gender coaches or
anything like that. But my agewas definitely the one that was kind of
the biggest concern, right and wasn'ta gender because I was twenty one and
that's that's what people would have said, you're too young, blah, you
know whatever. And I appreciate thatpeople said that, like and that's a
fair enough point, and like alot of it came just out of concern,

(46:43):
like do you know, do youyou want to be getting into that?
But I think my age is apositive and absolutely like has helped me
and it engages a whole different cohortpeople. But I noticed your speed of
for me, I like everything atone hundred miles and do you know what
I mean, I put in aneighty ninety or a week, no problem,
like, and I need things andcut out all the fluff. Yeah,

(47:06):
And anytime I had any connection withyou was like, oh, ten
to eleven at night, because that'swhere I'm still at You're still at it.
I'm like, yeah, that's yeah, that's the politician. That's exactly
what I thought a politician should be. Yeah, is wrap it on no
fluff. And well, obviously that'swhat comes with being in your twenties,
you know what I mean? Yeah, for sure, you know. And
it does bring a different energy andas well at different perspective on things,

(47:29):
because do you know the comedy clubis class. It's good to have different
things and just open your mind tonew things. And as well, like
do you know on the way andI was running, they sent you a
voice message. I love voice messages, like some people hate them, and
I can be prone to the podcastvoice message sometimes, like but like a
lot of people like would communicate withme in non normal way, so not

(47:54):
the typical like email, a reallyformal email. Like people who neither like
something know that they can to sendme a text and then I'll be like,
Okay, I'm gonna send your voicemasses back. Just explain this because
it suits me, it might suitthem, but you're getting it because but
like those kind of approachable ways ofconnecting to the electorates, it might be

(48:15):
the typical electric No. I loveit. I loved it. I love
the informal informality of it. Itwas like, oh, this is exactly
the person of you know, thethe electric person that I taught you.
You know, you should be neverfelt that before, like that, like
we were talking beforehand when I wasregistering to vote. Now you brought you
brought a form, Matty sent outforms because the old man was talking him

(48:37):
the other day, going all right, you send out because my forms of
all sorts of the amounts of paperI registered in three seconds. Yeah,
but it's brilliant because like you know, I'm on like on the door at
the moment, I have my camerascarried. But like people are like,
I'm not read and I'm like,oh, look, I have a QR
code there in the back to scatstraight on. What's that? How did

(48:59):
you do it? Do you know? Like? Also, what are you
saying about the posters? And I'venoticed now that you don't even need to
go to like a QR reader ifyou just take a photograph of it with
your android. I don't know aboutiPhones. Yeah, it'll take you straight
to the website. Yeah. Same, just open it on the camera because
heaven forbid when you do typing inbecause obviously building a house and stuff like
that, you end up having tolook at all the government forms. And

(49:22):
when you are self employed, youlook at all the government forms. So
they have layered things hidden in things. So sometimes you could see why people
would be taught about it. JesusChrist. This doesn't say about actually you
know, but you know when youneed the bullshit filter comes on from looking
at all this. It was veryquick for me, but you could see
how people would go that is mareand drop out the form there, you

(49:45):
know, you can sure and likethere's definitely like pros and cons to it,
and like I'm sending their forms allthe time. But also people are
like, oh work cod I dothat there now, do you know?
So it's just actually being able toadapt to the right audience. So you
tell just like you reading the room, like you're like if I meet somebody
under forty years of age at thedoor like us QR code. If I

(50:07):
meet somebody north of that, I'mlike, I'll send you a form if
you want. Yeah, that's notme bigay. Just by the way,
disclaimer, there's some people who areover fourteen. You know how to use
a QR code. It is Yeah. Thankfully, the people who listen to
this podcast or sound exactly, theywon't pick between the bones that I don't
think I've gotten one complaint in obviousthree hundred episodes exactly from the outset.

(50:30):
Just like clubs, your average personsound person, they are yeah and like
that actually goes back to the conversationlike, oh, you know, how's
your job, Like you must meeta whole bunch of yeah. But you
know what, ninety seven percentage peopleare a one sound out and just need

(50:52):
a bit of help. And somepeople are really frustrated and really angry about
things in the country right now.And I can't blame them because I can
feel it too. I'm still livingat home, would love not to be
saving to build by God only knowswhen that happened. But do you know,
most people work hard. They justwant to do what they want to

(51:13):
do when they as soon as theycan do it and want a bit of
help. When they contact us.Sometimes you get them at the wrong time
of the day or the you knowwrong stick off them. But after a
while you just have to take themat face value and say, trust that
they're just being genuine looking for abit of help. That's why we're there.
Well, I think that's probably somethingthat I've learned in I'm becoming more

(51:34):
and more sympathetic to people. Maybeit's because I've gotten nicer since having a
child. My wife is a verynice person, you know, But I've
noticed that you could nearly pick mostpeople apart and go, I've got you
a wrong time, yeah, orJesus Christ, nobody held your hand at
all the day, you know whatI mean. Like this, it's rare
you meet somebody that's to the core, even they're just they've been dealt a

(51:58):
hard courage in life. Yeah,And like I see that a last and
it's really really hard because you know, we all wake up mornings are like,
oh, this thing is a problem. That's the problem. There's not
a bother on us when I seeyou know, when you deal with some
of the cases that you deal with, that ideal on a daily basis it's
like, do you know what?We're blessed genuinely, And that's when you
really counter blessings and when you're ableto help somebody in any way, because

(52:21):
like I think even the role ofa councter can be so like I mean
a counselor in political terms, notcounselor in like psychotherapy psycho therapy terms,
like you know, you deal withall sorts of issues and sometimes I'm like,
this counter needs a counselor. Youcan deal with so much. But

(52:42):
no, it's it's a really rewardingjob as well, because like when you're
on the doors as well, you'remeeting people that you've helped or they're like,
oh, you helped someone and someonethat removed from them a few like
a good bet like last time,they're like, oh, I've never met
you, but you've helped such andsort of belonging to me who's belonging to
them? And that's why I'm votingfor you, because well, even I

(53:04):
was talking to a couple of builder, a couple of guys today who are
you know, trades or whatever.I explained this that the other is this,
and you know by him, theynever crossed their mind and cross the
mind like, oh, this issomebody who actually thinks about OS and the
things that. Yeah, believe itor not, they're out there because the
only ones you see around Telly inSouth Doublin, do you know what I
mean? The only given forbid?Okay, there's Matty, but like he

(53:28):
doesn't get all the airtime. Whogets all the airtime? Representative of rural
Ireland really raised. I'm like there, I was in Clarney last week and
nobody wanted to even hear about them. They're him it up like nobody speaks
like that. Nobody, nobody onlyyou know if you're going down into the
core down there and garv and you'llfind that really yeah, I mean that's

(53:52):
that's their their their crew, thatis their group of Jesus. You know
what I mean? You're going tosteady on some of us. Some of
have seen the outside. Yeah,do you know what I mean? We
don't all think like that. Youknow, friends of mine are looking at
clearly that's everybody from beyond the RedCow. We're all a party, like
we're all eating sorry sandwiches, that'swhat we're doing, do you know?

(54:14):
But thankfully then like you have thelikes to you, So I need to
know counselor. What is a counselorthen, and what is a t d
SO counselor is local government public representativeon like Tipperary County councilor is what I
am at the moment going through reelection obviously, So hopefully this will probably

(54:35):
air before the election, but forAnnie listening after June, we'll put it
out this Friday, Friday. Sothat's counselor. I did about a lot
of issues housing planning, like community, local issues, roads, typical counselor
problems. And we've had a lotof road talk. Yeah we sure,
we sure have. And like yousee my Instagram stories, this is why

(54:58):
I have I have two Instagram pagesas well, because of course, when
I was like, okay, ifI'm doing this seriously, I will lose
all of my friend followers because I'mputting up about potholes, trees downs,
roads flooded and people are sick ofme, do you know, like truly
sick of me, and you haveto put it out there. This is
injustice, Like we need to geta culvert or something done with this road,

(55:19):
Like yeah, yeah, but likeit's just like a source of information
as well, you know, esbwhatever it is. People just come to
you and like as well, they'relike I think people can ring and be
like I having a clue, canyou do that with this? But you
might just tell me where I cango. So that's local counselor very local,
low level stuff, and then you'vekind of your development plan and planning

(55:43):
and all that crack is where Ireally enjoyed. I find it really interesting.
Obviously, then the TD is morenational, it's member of the doll
and it's meant to be more legislationand things like that. Ireland is really
parochial though, because they don't seethe differences really between tds and counselors.
Yeah, so like you know,people go back to the term of parish

(56:05):
on politics all the time because that'syour lecture. So the issues that are
happening on the ground is the issuesthat you're going to bring to the National
Parliament. So I don't find thatand wrong with that. It's just important
that you have the balance that youraise your issues, but you also raised
the national issues. Yeah, ofcourse it is like an issue that might
be happening here in care or likethat, business people in care are having
Another town in rural Ireland somewhere isprobably facing the same thing. I can

(56:30):
tell you right now because I go, I mean in every part of this
country, it's exactly the same,exactly so slightly different accents, but it's
exactly the same. People feel theexact same way. Once you're and I've
tried to tell you know, tellfriends is like this, who are Dublin
and Dublin based and so you knowthey're like, well why don't you I'm
telling you now, have you everlived and been from West Ross Common?

(56:53):
Feel anyway connected? But disconnect becausethey're like what you're like, we have
put up like we'll make a carbontax, but like so you can just
get on your public transwork, likepublic brands work. What's his name Ryan?
Like that drives mad that he hasa Ryan surname, which would suggest
there's somebody related from Tippery No,yes, his grandparents, like and this

(57:16):
is well known state secrets they're fromI don't know, Jesus. Yeah,
I mean he's suggested that maybe ruralvilligious could just share a car like yeah,
I know, going my face,yeah yeah, so like capricates now
every morning. Now you're all likegathering around in the road's care Yeah,

(57:37):
yeah, yeah, who's having ittoday? Yeah? Oh my god.
Yeah. And then you have theliteral powers pump things. You're like,
this fella doesn't talk that fella acrossthe road because you know they share a
dish and something happened a couple ofyears ago. Do you know, You're
you're probably gonna get loads of patson the back for the road that I
just built, because everybody keeps agood counsel. Great for building this,

(58:00):
We'll yeah, exactly So. Forme, though, maybe this is what
I've been looking for then in politics, is that I never on a national
scale. Sure, I just maybeI just feel too small in that sense
that I don't feel that I wouldactually take have an effect. Or maybe
I'm just too cynical, but itseems very visceral. Maybe that I'm just
that kind of a person that Ican only deal with the visceral in front

(58:22):
of me. That I can't reallybuy the hype. I can't. I
can never buy hype. I'm actuallyfind myself. I remember walking out of
an Eminem concert because I was like, well, this is shit, Yeah,
this is way better. I'm sevenhundred yards from a tiny eminem and
this is you know, so Ican never I can never buy into the
hype. So I never really inpolitics. I never felt it relatable to

(58:45):
me. But as soon as Igot to know you, oh, this
is exactly what I thought. Sofor me, counselor. And I would
advise anybody to find your local counselor. And this is probably a phrase I
should phrase that differently. There's somethingmore actually, that's a bit more original,
because that's a big thing. Iknow. I've noticed if you're not
original things, it's a hook thatyou won't catch people with, Like just

(59:07):
saying the same thing. Contact yourlocal counselor. That's shit. Listen,
find the same version as Marie inyour local This is Marie woman Maureen.
Actually one of my best friends ismarried to Maureen Colin Gettus. He's a
comic who will be coming here.He's from Belfast, he's king of an
ord regret. She is Maureen mcgaretwhen she became more in get us.

(59:30):
But find your equivalent of Maureen andjust I swear to God, if they're
some way plugged in, at leastthey'll know the road you're talking about.
Do you know the heart condition.You're talking about that maybe the you know,
the flooded scenario or whatever, andit has some way at least you're
talking to somebody who might care.Yeah, I know, and I appreciate

(59:50):
that thanks to metal because like whatI think is important. Like, like
I said, I'm still only twentysix, but like when I'm out,
people don't buy than me because theyactually see that, like, hey,
she's just Norman, She's fairly related. She's out, like nobody wants to
be talking about their job, youknow, at half eleven in the smoking
area of some phub, do youknow? But like I've got that so

(01:00:14):
many times, and people like,do you know it's great that you can
just go out, switch off.You're a normal person. But if they
come up to me and ask themsomething, I'm like, oh, you're
just send me a text. Whenyou also give off the from the get
go, you give off the auraof, or at least the image of
somebody who is in it for genuinereasons. There doesn't seem to be this
polished, you know, shiny headed, you know this look where you're like,

(01:00:36):
well, you're a character that Isee and I feel like I can
attack you as a character. Yeah, because and I have to say something
like if if I hate bringing uptwice on my podcast, but if Am
and Ryan walks into a place,he may get it, like because he
paints himself as this character rather thanjust coming across as a man who can
you know, who can actually contributeto something. Yeah, And like do

(01:00:59):
you know the thing about Avan,He's a really genuinely lovely guy when you
get down to talk to him.And it's funny because people's ideologic doesn't come
across. Ideologies can really just takethem, you know, to a total
different level. Which is sad toobecause like I think being on the council
or like from my time like workingin the in the doll and meeting the

(01:01:20):
politicians, like everybody's normal they are, but like then, like what you
say is a lot of them justput on this face and like put off
this aura of like you know,I'm a cool, slick politician and I
hate I cringe at it. I'mjust like I see them like on TikTok
or Twitter or wherever, and I'mjust like TikTok is my safe even you

(01:01:45):
know, It's where I got timeto like just get out of real life.
You know, of course your algorithmknows, like I'll show you everything
from el I know. And itwas like nope, nope, like you
know, I know, unfair andI have like all my campaign do you
were like you have to put avideo and TikTok and I'm like, please
don't make me do it because I'mlike, no, it's my safe space.

(01:02:07):
You know. I go for thattoo. For that too is admirable.
Again, is the wrong world.It's like it's it's it's redeeming it
as a politician to go, yeah, you're not just jumping in everybody else's
pool, going hey guys, sowe're gonna have a party. I'm really
cool. Yeah, can we justchi childre. I think people are like

(01:02:30):
exhausted whatever kind of word you use, but just kind of fatigued from political
shite. Yeah, oh yeah.It's like saying all these things are gonna
happen, hasn't happened. Like housing, housing canning are probably the two biggest
issues that I deal with as acanceler, you know, And we have
so many people who are like intheir twenties, thirties, even into their

(01:02:51):
foeshies who aren't or can't get onthe housing matter, do you know?
And it's not fair because it doesn'tmatter like they are working, you know,
they're paying their taxes, they're contributingto society, and they're like,
what more can I get? You? Do? You know? No reward?
And I'm always in it. Idon't think that there's enough of an
incentive to work anymore because why shouldn'tWhy why do I work anymore? Do

(01:03:13):
you know? If you put itdown a paper, an alien traveling in
from another world would go, oh, you're insane for working. Yeah,
by the way, you're absolutely sayingfor work. And that's what I think
is just really really sad, becauseanybody who can you know, that contributes
to society in the meaningful a way. And like, don't get me wrong,
there is people who can't work ordon't work, and for legitimate reasons
still deserve ye, yeah, absolutely, but sometimes people say no, Like

(01:03:40):
genuinely hard workers come into me andthey might be like a single parent or
whatever, and they're trying to geton the council list because they can't afford
on their own to like couples can'tafford on their own to get on the
housing land. And they're like,do you know what, I'm better off
reducing my rs and work or leavingmy job so I can then get on
like the council list. And Ijust think that is just so wrong,

(01:04:02):
like we like that people would haveto think that way or encourage people to
go that way is just wrong ina society, do you know. And
I think we've just gone That's whyI think going back, Like that's really
deep. But like people see politicalstuff on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter,
TikTok sacred do you know, peoplejust want to see random, deep,

(01:04:26):
scary rabbit holes think if they godown recipes, you know, like God
does what they say, but forme to stuff about the Roman Empire.
So like that's what they don't wantto see. They just want to have
a break from all that because they'refatigued that the promises that have been made
over the years haven't come through,like you know, and there's like just

(01:04:48):
give us a break. So doyou have as a as a counselor then
do you have to like are youasked your policies at the door, Like
well, I mean what is likeif I'm you've never met me, for
you know, I'm like cool,great, but tell me what are your
policies will they will they vary fromsomebody else? I mean getting to know
you're like, Okay, you're ahard working, genuine person, so chances

(01:05:10):
there are you going to try yourass off to get these policies across the
line? Boat, How do youmake your sound other than actually literally sounding
genuine? Like yeah, so,like my housing is one of my biggest
things, and I like help alot of people with social housing. That's
great. But where I think isunfair is like we don't have affordable housing.
Yeah. For that's for the middleincome, the young professionals, the

(01:05:32):
people who are you know, thirtiestrying to get on the housing that are
like there is no such thing asaffordable housing, and other counties have affordable
housing schemes, tip we don't yet. Like that's something that I've really tried
up the last couple of years andwe're just starting to do that right.
But like then you have the kindof overhand, like the overreach of like

(01:05:53):
national policies be like, oh no, but you have to start in the
big towns Clamelle, Turless and Ninafirst. But I'm like, but no,
he needs every village is because that'swhat keeps rural villages alive as well,
is keeping our young people there,keeping them in the schools, they're
keeping them going to the shop,the pub, do you know, the
chip or whatever it is, andlike that's so important that we rejuvenate with

(01:06:16):
learland in that way. But likeagain it's the overreach from national policies that
breaks my heart. That must bea killer, Yeah, it really is.
And then it goes on to planningplanning, like like you know,
it's difficult to jump through a lotof hoops and like then you have kind
of lack of common sense policies wherelike you know, you're not allowed to
build a modular home or you know, every like a lot of people know

(01:06:39):
about the case over a new inn, which which is absolutely sent me over
the edge. Oh my god,me too, and i'm I'm and stuff
like it was just oh my god, no scandalous. And for listeners who
don't know, it's a guy whohas a log cabin on his own land,
do you know, his own land, his own land, you know,
sitting there happy, it's connected toall the services, and like there's

(01:07:01):
just two small issues with planning thathe hasn't got his retention permission. Oh
yeah, look it was firstly donewithout planning. That's fine, but like
retention is a mechanism for getting planning, you know. But he's just been
put through the ringer for getting planning. And I'm like, he's literally building
on his own land. And like, I'm good friends to John. I've

(01:07:21):
helped him along a lot of theway, so he wouldn't mind me saying
this. And it's well documented ofCoy, yeah, and it's still ongoing.
But like where it just gets meis okay, So he's being prosecuted
or you know, being because he'sin an illegal dwelling or whatever and on

(01:07:43):
authorized dwelling is the correct term.So he's got facing homelessness or jail.
So if he if the judge demandsthat he has to take it off the
land. He then has to applyfor housing somewhere. So who's he If
I to the council, I'm like, came here, I already haven't known
people onto me looking for housing.This guy is, he has it's artists.
He's helping himself, and that's whereI'm saying, like the normal people

(01:08:06):
who are just helping themselves just needa break, you know, And like
that's just what gets me so much. Then there's like the normal roads waters
businesses just in like small businesses.So I suppose yeah, when you list
out these scenarios like small businesses andstuff like that, and I will be
like, I'm going through melting yourhead over the next twelve months because there's
a lot going like that. Yeah, that's where we're there, well,

(01:08:29):
between businesses and stuff like that.My plan is to as somebody I never
thought about. And we're at acommunion party the weekend along with that road
and the club and a couple ofother things. But guy just turned him
in. Jesus, you're great tohave as a neighbor. You've actually made
a positive impact when you landed here. Yeah, that's exactly what I think
I need to do. Yeah,we all try to do that. That's

(01:08:51):
trying to make it positive. Notthat not for a pattern the back or
not that they go that's the sound, But at least Jesus Christ, try
and do something if you can,if you're physically able to do it,
should you not like so? Andthat's where like I think like Ireland is
built on like volunteerism, when wehave community groups in every village in every
town that are the backbone of ourcountry, like you know, be like

(01:09:14):
they run the local hall, theydo the local tidy towns, they do
whatever they do, but they makethe country better and they make their community
a place that people want to livein and it's easy to know and it's
near. At these things, Idid a lot of I did a lot
of acting, coaching around teaching actingin these communities or these I suppose they
were fundraisers and stuff like that.You're just going. I was every time

(01:09:36):
it caught me off guard, likeyour class, Jesus Christ, you're in
here with none of no backing,nothing, and you're making me sandwiches.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.Yeah, but you know that is the
real or spirit, Like it's justyou help people out and it's it's so
genuine and it's great. Like whenpeople do come back and want to give,

(01:09:58):
but it's haired then when they comeback and want to give, what
aren't a loud because they can't they'rehit with some red tape that they can't
build or they can't do this,they can do that, do you know?
It's just like it's so wrong,Like it's just we're so ruled by
like ridiculous bureaucracy. It makes peoplewant to leave and like, I'm twenty

(01:10:19):
six, so many of my friendsare in Australia. Yeah, god,
like you know, Christmas Day thisyear, I'm like I was waking up
to watching everybody's stories and bond Yeahof course ye class like but you know,
it's it's sad though at the sametime because like why should they have
to Why should they have to?You know. So that's where people,
I think are disappointed and now likegetting into that anger, do you know,

(01:10:43):
and frustration, And that's where weare kind of now as the country,
which is is sad because people rishpeople are such good people, they
don't want to be there, butthey just feel so irritated with with you
know, scess of issues. There'san out e Australia maybe hide or whatever,
but it is that you can turna blind eye to just in you
know, the scenario at home.But I heard a great it's not maybe

(01:11:06):
not great to be a lot ofred tape to try and get around it.
But I heard a good incentive foryoung couple's building was the VAT products
that they're buying. Oh yeah,twenty three percent VEAT for all the products
that they buy because products are goingthrough the rooms. Yeah, it's so
expensive, Like Jesus Christ, I'llget look at the box of Cruis this
week. They're time and af nextweek. So but it was it was

(01:11:29):
just, oh, yeah, that'sliterally something that that the major government could
do. If you qualify for thatscenario, it would be at least one
to say. And you know,even like there's like the vacant homes grand
do you know that people are doingof old houses and stuff? It's great
And I think, like, butthey've just the smallest little tweaks that they
need, do you know, Likeyou've a thirteen month window for approval to

(01:11:49):
do your works, Like why doyou know? Well, especially given how
hard trades are to get your handsout exactly, you know, it's ridiculous.
And like as well, then youhave to do all your work before
you get on in them money,Like I'm like, why can't you feel
bridging payments? Do you know?Exactly? Like it's just it helps people
along the way rather than making themfeel that it's another hoop to jump through,

(01:12:12):
do you know? And I've seenI'm on like one of those Facebook
groups for that particular grunt because everyday, like people ring me and ask
me different things about it, andI learned as much of other people's you
know, experiences, and get somuch inside out of us. And I
find it really interesting because I'm inthat kind of mindset now myself, do
you know, as a young personwanting to build or do whatever. And

(01:12:33):
they're like someone just made the comments. They're like, why do we have
to try and continuously prove ourselves?And rather than someone trying to put out
the hand and help you, youknow, I don't think I've ever felt
that before. I don't think.Now you just said it, I've gone
well, I have never felt thatbefore. The latter is constantly lifted,
like the extra step away from you, rather than a hand being extended.

(01:12:56):
When I say that, though,but as soon as I asked, you
got on to you immediately, likeI sent you an email. I think
it was like half ten at nights. Came back away and I said it
to attachment was across the table.She was like, Jesus Christ, finally
somebody who's a freak like us,Do you know what I mean? But
it's I don't think. Yeah,once upon a time I was said,
said, but it's like, well, why if you have the engine,

(01:13:19):
why not help like people people friends. I have friends who just cannot go
this club and eight hours in theday. But if I can give them
a hand, no problem. I'mthere till eleven o'clock at night, Like
you know what I mean. Andyou know what. But that's the other
thing I suppose about my job,Like I'm flexible. I'm able to like
it suits me to the hill todo a podcast, pop into the hill
to do a podcast, yeah exactly, but as well just send, will

(01:13:42):
send device message whenever it suits me, and like people appreciate that too because
they know, like you work onsocial auras or whatever. But like at
the same time, I'm like goodto switch off, which is very different
to the older typical yeah, whichis like twenty four to seven as soon
as you walk in, and verydifferent to even dad, Like you know,
you're walking and you need to goaround the room and meet everybody.

(01:14:02):
And sometimes I'm not. I'm walkingin the into the pub. Head send
me down, I'll say hello,but I'm going to my friends and I'm
like yeah, yeah, you justyou know you have to because that's when
you become a crank, you know, but also those people that if it's
in a pop or place of recreation, they're supposed to be enjoying themselves too.
Hey, don't be don't be bringingup those things that annoys you.

(01:14:24):
Yeah exactly. Just switch off.Yes, you switch off to send me
a message on Monday, we'll talkabout it. We'll go from there.
But like everybody when they're out ofwork should need need to switch off,
because that's what keeps us saying,you know, and everybody should just be
getting into doing what they want todo, like into stand up comedy.
That's like my lecturer said that firstday in college. Don't be afraid to

(01:14:47):
pursue other interests. Okay, playboyor not play Yeah exactly. So yeah,
no, it's it's definitely a variedrole. But I love working with
people, and people are good anddefinitely come across in this. Yeah I
cut across you, but because Ididn't want you to. Your policies clearly
are that they would seem to beeverything that your average person that you would

(01:15:12):
meet needs needs, like you rockingup and doing well. You know,
I'm thinking about bringing big industry hereto start. Like Jesus Christ, I
don't know what to do with thatand maybe my son will get a job
in thirty years time, Like whatyou know? That's it? Do you
know what? And a lot ofmy job is like old people and older
people's grands. Okay, Like theycome to me and they're like, I
have a I have a bat.My hip is done. I can't be

(01:15:35):
getting happening in and at the bath. I need to put in a shower.
This is the low that you know, the low amazing immediatey to have
is you who can do that?For therleist points grant and I will sit
down with them and go through witha grand, step by step, and
I love it because it gives thema whole new quality of life. And
you know it prolongs their time athome as well, because I can still

(01:15:57):
live independently. I just can't happenthe bat. So if I can put
in, take out my bat,put in a shower, get a grand
to do it, And I'm like, more power to yet, because you
know what, you've worked your wholelife, you've paid into the system.
You deserve something. Do you knowwhat? If it's only something that's small
of a grand for eight thousand eurowhatever it might be, they get it.
Done and like and you can putthem in contact with Barry to get

(01:16:18):
a new hip too. Yeah exactly, I know. I mean, but
the thing about Barry is, yeah, we're not mentioned any second names,
but like Barry came to our officebecause there's this cross border system where you
can go to the North skip theQ in Ireland to get your hip done.

(01:16:39):
Absolutely, go up there, skipthe Q and you pay it up
front. You can get it likethe credit und and give bridging loans and
then the HC reimburse you and youskip the Q. Do you know,
which is bizarre because our waiting listsare so ridiculous down here that people are
doing it. But it's great.You can do it for break says I'm

(01:17:00):
just giving I'm just going to giveup infomercial here. But arazing actually for
anybody any sort of medical procedures.Wow, go to any of the hospitals,
private hospitals in the North and youget eighty percent reimbursed. Yeah,
I think it's it's not one rembers. It's pretty good. It's pretty good
for like skipping the Q. Hasta great city to go and have some

(01:17:21):
food and we're three hours up theroad. I went after the gig.
I went straight to the gig.So it wasn't like, you know,
like and I know it's again notselling this, but it's I remember I
drove, I don't know where Iwas in Derry Derry. Yeah, we're
in the Millennium Forum and Derry andI said something and I was going to

(01:17:42):
go. I went what I calledit north of Ireland and a lot of
the people there would call it thattoo, but a few of them were
like, oh, we know whatwhat. I turned my car on in
Tipperary, pointed it up the wayand stopped here. No mention had to
be changed. I didn't have toget on a boat. Yeah. Political,

(01:18:05):
but I'm in the north of ourYeah, yeah, absolutely. But
that's another thing that just we wedo a lot of those kind of referrals
or tell people the information for youknow, the cross boarders. It's just
like bizarre, but it's brilliant.And that's why, like a lot of
the time, I'm just a resourceof informations. Random Yeah, no,

(01:18:26):
I'll tell you and you that's that'sthe brilliant thing. And like I said
to anybody, a lot of peoplearen't going to be from South Tobrairiy but
if you are, you know todo both. Go find your equivalent to
you. Because I had no graspwhen you hear counselor, I just thought,
oh, court case stuff. Isuppose I had no grasp. And
then it was only my parents havesaid Messie's daughter Jesus Christ. Right,

(01:18:50):
let's see what she always she knowseverything about all the silly things I need
to know about on a personal level, which is listen, let's be honest.
Everybody listened to this. You're onlyliving on a personal level. Absolutely,
it's sweat the big stuff. Yeah, yeah, don't sweat the big
stuff. We can't do we can't, we can't exactly is going to take
over everything bringing on. I'm like, can you do can you do a

(01:19:13):
word job right now? I don'tknow, Like maybe we'll cut that better,
but no. But but yeah,that's it. The job is so
varied. But it's the small scalestuff that people just appreciate, that little
bit of information, that little bitof guidance, do this, don't do
that. This is who you shouldlook for. There's a grant for this,
there's a grand for that. Doyou know it's it's it's just it's

(01:19:35):
a it's a mental job, butI do I enjoy it. In all
fairness, I would I applaud anybodyfor giving it a go. But knowing
what I know about intense stuff,Jesus Christ, like something like politics and
so many people coming at you froma person point of view, you would
want it in your veins. Really, I believe something like that. And

(01:19:58):
there's no nepotism in independence. That'swhat I love too. There's like what
you can run, kid, butI got nothing for you advice, you
know what I mean, There's noBut also either way, maybe in that
sense, like nepotism even would workin the party scenario because you're going they
have it in their genes to beable to deal with this much they like
Natasha was Jesus Christ, I wouldstart crying every day because you know,

(01:20:21):
and it would no where I dohave my days where you see yourself.
Please someone take me out of thislife. But yeah, I know,
I definitely but like it goes backto like I just consider myself just a
normal twenty six year old. Yeah. But when I first seen my poster
on the poet at the last election, I swear to God I nearly crashed

(01:20:43):
the car because I close my eyes. I was like, this is mort
fine, like I twenty one,yeah, no morphine and he like people
send you snaps like astronomer, Ohmy god, Like I think I remember
one guy the last time put uplike he must have forgot. I was
friends with him on snapchat, butlike put up that, like he took

(01:21:04):
my poster away, like and Ijust like we're back, like here you
look, just put it back.I know you took it, Like I
know where he lives. So Ilike the other thing about my job is
like people my age, they don'tnecessarily have a lot of reasons to get
onto me, but they're granny's.I know all of their grannies and it's

(01:21:24):
freaking ridiculous or their parents, andlike i'd be out, like and it's
just kind of like an awkward barriersometimes like do you know what, I
know your parents and your grandparents sowell, but like how do we bring
this still left? Do you know? How do yeah? Yeah? And
like does she like that new bathroom? Do you know she got her new

(01:21:45):
windows and doors? Conversation fillers abouttheir parents like my friends like and you
know, it would be out andI'm like that's I can't over and talk
to him because like their granny wastalking to me about something. Persons like
you know, Christ, it's justlike the elephant in the room. So
many times you you know what it'sit would seem that it's not taking it,

(01:22:06):
it's not taking its toll, andyou know how to find the balance
of it too. And you areactually a human which is nice because,
like like I said, I've metmore on the TV side of things,
I've met tds who are like,Jesus Christ, did they make you in
a lab? Did they make youan a lab? Even your handshake is
looks like it was prescribed, Soyeah, thank you for it. Like

(01:22:26):
literally I caught you you're on yourphone is going to go into Kim Kardashian
meltdown when you turn the flight back. After this, particularly pretty a half
weeks from election, it's like nointer of my family public like, where
the hell did she go? Andbecause when you're canvassing you do every back
road on boy road, they're like, yeah, she was trapped somewhere and
someone took in and they go,you know, it's crazy, yeah,

(01:22:48):
wow. Yeah when you think aboutit like that, all the place you
have to go in the different housesyou go into in scenarios, they probably
think I'm dead. Okay, yeah, well that's fair enough. I mean,
look, thankfully you will get youout the other side of this,
and I won't ask you for anew shower. Yeah not yet. You
have a few years to go ontothen yeah, maybe what your parents?

(01:23:12):
Yeah, but no, thanks forhaving me. And it's great to finally
be in the green room. Iknow, I know, don't tell too
many people about it. It's thatis normally they expect to see. I'd
assume, I don't know, somesort of weird shit hanging off the walls
or whatever. But the go ahead. You know what to do. People.
I can't tell you which your weather, but the evidence is there also
for the people not listening, startpointing at start point your nose in the

(01:23:35):
political direction. In the local scenario, don't be worried about them once who
you don't feel related to, becauseI guarantee a hell of a lot of
people listen to this have gone.Do you know somebody in North Mayo,
may Go? I need to findthe equivalent Marene in that scenario for sure.
And just on that because if we'regoing out this Friday, the deadline
to register to vote for. Thiselection is the twenty of me. So

(01:23:57):
that's next Monday. Yes, soyou can do it on nine. Check
the dot ee. You can registeron nine in a couple of minutes.
I think it's so important to it'sreally important to use your vote. Some
people are just so disillusioned. ButI think, go out, use your
vote, even if you go andspoil it, if you're like, nah,
none of these candidates represent me.But when you go out and spoil

(01:24:18):
your vote and you don't vote foranybody, it sends more of a message
to people who just didn't didn't evenvote in the first place. Do you
know. It shows that you wantsomething different, you want something new,
But what's there in front of youisn't any of those things that you want.
So get registered, use your votebecause it's really really important and we're
lucky to have it. Yeah,exactly, exactly. Yeah. And on

(01:24:43):
that note, the Chinese are agreat budget. Yes, of course,
thank you very much, Thank you, Tom Money, thank you very very
much. Counselors to do register tovote today. Today is the last day
you can register the vote. Togo do it, find your local counselor
and vote for them. Independent.I would suggest because that's seems to be
a bit more aligned with what normalpeople are wanting these days. Anyway,

(01:25:05):
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dollars hairs a month. You getthe rambut pot, which is something I
do mid weekly purely for the Patreons. It doesn't go out anywhere but on
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three quid a month just for that. Well, you get all the ad

(01:25:28):
free content over there as well asthe videos and whatnot, and you we
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see Fred under my Stables. He'sin the Hill on the twenty fifth,

(01:25:48):
And like I said, Delamare isdamn near sold out, So I don't
know what to tell you about that. Maybe there's one or two left later
on Engine, but other than that, I left to talk dog ty again.
Next week mind yourself, have alovely weekend the Negles and thanks

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