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Speaker 11 (05:58):
Well, good afternoon, lilies and gentlemen, and welcome to a wonderful, cloudy,
rainy southern California afternoon. I hope all's been good with you.
I have today as my guests, professors Ronald Blaker and
George Blake. We're going to talk about a wide range
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of things. As always, somebody's fidgeting around here making a
lot of noise, and so I guess let's just get
right into it. What is the latest in Trump's world
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chaos and blame game. I will start with the fact
that he announced yesterday that he wants to take over
Gaza and turn it into the Riviera of the Middle East.
That doesn't sit well with anybody because in order to
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do that, you got about two thousand, got about two
thousand Palestinians there who have to be evacuated somewhere, and
that means the place where I think it's civilian. I
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think that's yeah, that's what I said, and so and
so we'll start off there. You know, he thinks he
looks like a big man when he makes these threats.
You'll hear me say that again in a minute. But
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what do you all think about this?
Speaker 14 (08:00):
It's illegals Okay, it's immoral, it's diabolical.
Speaker 15 (08:09):
It's diabolical.
Speaker 11 (08:10):
There you go. Since when does any of that ever
stop Trump?
Speaker 14 (08:16):
But this also harkens back to the interview that Jared
Kushner had done last year, where he also openly said
that God would be beautiful waterfront property. So the gorulessness
started last year. And so this plan is as nefarious
as it is. It's about capitalism, wasn't anything else?
Speaker 11 (08:41):
Yeah, I suppose you're probably right. And of course, who's gonna,
you know, get the port of entry fees or whatever.
I'm sure it's somebody whose last name is Trump. So
all right, well, he's continue to make.
Speaker 15 (09:04):
It's not possible, and he must know that.
Speaker 11 (09:11):
I don't think he cares.
Speaker 14 (09:13):
I don't think that.
Speaker 11 (09:16):
I think he's First of all, he's being the disruptor
in chief, right, which which is a role that he likes.
And second of all, he's creating chaos, and he operates
best in an environment of chaos. But when somebody say, again, other.
Speaker 14 (09:45):
Thing is because then no one can see how completely
inept he is. If everybody is swinging from the raptors,
nobody notices what he's not doing. And one thing I
will say about Trump is beyond any.
Speaker 11 (09:55):
And all of the things.
Speaker 14 (09:56):
He is most importantly a bully, and a bully is
not really interested in the fight because there's a risk
the bully could lose. But what they definitely want is
for everybody to be upset all day, all night, every day,
afraid of the threat, because the threat is always ten
times worse than actually taking the bully on.
Speaker 11 (10:19):
A very good point. Well, he's been making all kinds
of other crazy threats. I'm not sure what all they are,
because it's just too many to keep dract of already.
I mean, he's been in office eleven twelve days, and
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he's already managed to create utter, incomplete chaos. I'm gonna
loved the one he came out. He said he was
imposing a ten percent tariff on Mexico, Canada, and China
Ago in China, Mexico and Canada smacked back and immediately
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imposed tariffs on the United States. So therefore our goods
going into either of those countries would have a twenty
five tariff on them. I don't know where we're going
to go from here, but this is not good. But
what I what I will say is that the presidents
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of Canada and Mexico pushed back, fought back.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
And.
Speaker 11 (11:37):
They imposed the same exact tariffs on goods coming from there. Boy,
it's amazing howick, It's amazing how quick he backed down
from something that was already in place. He demanded ten
thousand troops we put at the Mexican border. In ten
thousand troops be put at the Canadian border. Well, does
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he not know that they were there already? But he
said they agreed to hit go ahead? What'd you say, Rona?
Speaker 15 (12:09):
Apparently not. He doesn't seem to know what's going on
in his own administration, in his own country, And always
he's making all of his chaos and all of these
things are happening, and meanwhile, behind the scenes, Elon Musk
is going into offices and grabbing all of our data.
Speaker 14 (12:28):
And that's it, really is. The entire thing here is
a SiO. It's a dish gallop to get people running
around to whack them ole. Whatever he said this moment.
What he says is so unimportant compared to what he does.
But if you're paying atten, somebody says, you never know
what he's doing because you think everything is going to
happen he's going to stop transgender athletes, he's going to
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repeal the fourteenth Amendment. Things you know that he cannot do,
but he does not. He's not nive. He knows he
cannot do these things, but he so it's keenly aware
said about them as the headlines. And again, no one's
paying attention to whatever craziness is going on involving Elon
Musk and his fifteen ban of fifteen little infels with
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their fingers all into the government. When during the Trump
administration the first time we had the greatest breeze of
security hit the history of the country. We're facing that
again and there's no stopping some of it. But at
least we should be paying attention to that rather than
to the threats against women, black people, trans into people,
all those that all the nonsense, All that's the nonsense.
Speaker 11 (13:37):
Well, I think I said this last week on here.
The one that causes me to chuckle the most is
Caitlyn Jenner or whatever his name her name is now
since well because since Trump erased trans people right, they
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don't exist anymore. So is Caitlyn Jenner Bruce or is
Caitlyn Jenner Caitlyn? And does she still go out there
and support him. Think about this good question, right, because
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you know that was his big supporter, and he could
claim to have trans supporters.
Speaker 15 (14:26):
Has she made any statements?
Speaker 11 (14:30):
Has I'm sorry, I didn't hear what you said.
Speaker 15 (14:34):
Has Caitlyn Has Caitlyn Jenner made any statements since Trump
started all of this nonsense, not to.
Speaker 11 (14:42):
My knowledge, not to mine, But.
Speaker 14 (14:49):
I wasna right now. All the people that voted for
whatever caused, anti Kamala Harris, pro Palestine, whatever the causes were,
or I'm sick of both, and I'm a double hater
and I'm sitting at home, they're all looking back at
what that election has brought, and none of them can
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say that there wasn't some complicity on everybody's part to
create the environment that's here. It wasn't magic.
Speaker 11 (15:19):
Yeah, Well, I fear that with his chaos and his
blame game, because you know, he's blaming everybody for everything,
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and I think that it's a dangerous position to be
in right now, dangerous position to be in, especially with
this lunatic who is unhinged, and he is unhinged, you know,
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in the middle of it. Oh all right, so Musk
said yesterday, I guess it was that he wants to
take all the money out of Social Security and Medicare,
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money that, by the way, you and I paid in
for the years and years. What what is if they
if they really attempt to do that. I mean, you know,
we never got al Gore's lock box. Think about that.
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Sofa Security, Medicare, Medicaid and other programs that we have
funded ourselves are sitting prime for the picking.
Speaker 14 (17:05):
Well, I think more prime for the fooling around with.
Even though there is a big threat that Elon must
is gonna take all the money and put it in
a bag and run away, there's nowhere to run to,
and so that isn't going to happen. What will happen
is our information is being manipulated. What can happen is
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access to those accounts can lead to different kinds of
problem insolvency because of the amount of programs that they
pay out. So I think it's will be more mechanical
issues that they can create. But I think that's what
his goal is. Elon Musk is a freaking super villain
in a movie. He's the richest man in the world,
getting involved in governments all around the world, not just
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one government, and so there's I'm honestly, I have been shocked.
And this is not without some thought of thinking about
that this man is safe because he's really screwing around
what people the food they eat, and he does not
he does not get from the echelon from which he
sees that this is the survival of a human being.
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And you push up human being to the end and
you will see what they are capable of. Or, as
my mother used to say, you don't have to feed
the poor because they'll just come and take your food.
Speaker 11 (18:22):
Yeah, well, I think that's probably quite true. I think
that is probably quite true. Well, I think there's you know,
there are so many millions of people in America who
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depends on social security. Yeah, you know the organization that
my uncle is the head of, at least he's the
head of the pack. You know, they're dedicated to to
keeping social security alive. And a lot of folks over
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the age of sixty five or who have disabilities who
are really dependent on getting their social security. Yeah.
Speaker 14 (19:21):
So we couldn't understand that because he comes from an
apartheid system. He could also never understand it because he
comes from wealth. So to those people, it looks like
the government is handing out free money. They don't want
to hear that you pay in over the years because
they don't think you're taking out what you put in.
They're not interested in how that program works at all.
They would rather dismantle it. And the Republicans have been
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trying to privatize those security since I was born. I've
been hearing this sin since in the early eighties. I've
been hearing privatized, privatized. Put it on the stock market,
and let's give it a right and let's see what
happens to it.
Speaker 11 (19:57):
I am like, do it.
Speaker 14 (19:58):
They should go and do it, and when they destroy it,
then they will reap the benefits of what that is.
Because American citizens are not going to fit.
Speaker 11 (20:04):
At home and starve to death.
Speaker 14 (20:06):
They're not.
Speaker 11 (20:08):
They're just not going to do it.
Speaker 14 (20:10):
And so I think they might see a revolution they're
not prepared for.
Speaker 11 (20:18):
And you can, and you can only force the military
to do so much against citizens.
Speaker 14 (20:23):
That's right, because they too are citizen, right as their
grandmother too, who lost our social security too, Who's going
to die because he doesn't have a many case they're not.
That's only going to go so far. But that's where
that's the foidble of the rich. They are stupid enough
to make us aware that we don't have anything. When
we are unaware that we are not rich, we go
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about our lives trying to be like them. But when
they flaunt it in this in this French revolution way
they are, they're dangerously close defining themselves without any protection.
No one will protect you when all of us are starving.
No one's going to let you continue to that five
hundred billion dollars while their families start. It's completely insane.
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I would think the rich would be smart to say,
let's just give them some money so they don't know.
Speaker 11 (21:15):
Yeah, well, and and frankly, you know you talk about
cures for homelessness and such. Without their self security, they
can't pay rent, so you know, it becomes that it
becomes that mouse trap game where you know, you stop
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being able to pay your rent, your landlord stops you
wile to pay his mortgage. Mortgage company doesn't get your money,
and what are they going to do? Throw a whole
house out on on you know, on the street.
Speaker 14 (21:55):
And that I don't think, especially when you had, like
years ago, I had my school or actually you last year,
had them just google on your phones what would it
take right now to solve the homeless crisis in the
United States, And it's about twenty billion dollars between seventeen
and twenty two billions. And then I asked them to
google the networth of Ilanama. That's five hundred billion now
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to see that the incredible disparity between one first having
and not wealth to twenty five times over solve the
homeless problem. And instead they would rather worship and empower
him and give him even more wealth and even more power.
Is completely in vain. We get nowhere by praising wealth
in this country, but we're addicted to it. We love dynasty.
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We all want to be rich. And that's the problem
because as long as we want to be rich, we
will protect them.
Speaker 11 (22:50):
Yeah. When I forget who, I forget who is running
for president. I was doing a little bit of prep
for a speech I was going to give to this
big crowd. I started to notice that all of these
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all of these people were buying into this nonsense. And
you know, it's like they didn't care that they were
screwing themselves. And the truth is, I'm not sure they knew.
Speaker 14 (23:40):
No, I don't think they knew.
Speaker 10 (23:43):
I don't think.
Speaker 14 (23:43):
Yeah, somehow they were able to see the R and
T with a massive crowd holding up signs saying mass deportation,
and it literally did not go in. That's kind of
nothing you can say of it. An entire crowd putting
up a warning sign above their heads and it still
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means nothing. Well, Thomas Housing, we'll improve the housing problem
in the United States. We'll build two million new homes.
We'll give you access to be able to buy those homes.
That was not enough, because there is something that we
must all reckon with about the messaging of Donald Trump
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that is intoxicating and yeah, what is that? Well, but
that's the thing is we can't I would say, we
have to be careful not to look down on it
because it's kicked our ass. Sorry not, but well we can't.
We can't get beaten up by somebody and then lookdown
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on the way they fight and say, well, they don't
fight by the rules, but we just got beat up,
so we can keep getting beat up, so we a
complaining about how they're not following the rules, or we
can learn to fight. I mean, that's really what it
is here. We have to really look at it and go,
you know what, he doesn't talk over their heads. Democrats
keep talking over everyone's heads. Well, we know is some
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white Cooper steps. No one knows what that means. He
stood in front of groceries. He had never been to
a grocery store in his life. And the man stood
in front of groceries and pretended to know what they were,
and they all believed him. For Kamala Harris, who's actually
been to a grocery store, didn't do that. And even
if you would have copied it, it still would have
gotten some boats because people are that simple minded. The
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American public is not informed and doesn't want to be.
Speaker 11 (25:42):
No, well, I don't disagree with you to a great extent.
And you know, we better get our stuff. Intact, we
better get uh, we better get our things in order.
Speaker 14 (26:06):
To do the same thing. And I mean some of
the people that have been there for thirty five years
have got to go because they don't know how to
do a new thing. And it's not their fault. But
after thirty five years, how could you you know what
I mean?
Speaker 11 (26:24):
Well, that's one thing in medicine, you know that here's
the constant struggle to keep people up to date, latest medications,
latest treatments. Yeah, you know, because if you've got a
nurse who's out on a unit taking care of patients
and the doctor orders of medication they've never heard of,
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and it's not yet in the books. Remember that it's
not yet in the books. So unless the pharmacy, that is,
if your hospital is really sharp, you don't have a
place to turn. Yeah. I think it's part of the
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reason they started putting the flyers in with the medigations.
I think it's part of that reason. Well, I think
that Donald Trump is clearly unhinged. Oh yeah, and he
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is such a powermonger and such a hater. We didn't
talk about that part, but you know, maybe we'll have
a couple of minutes at the end we can talk
about it. I have never seen a man who is
more hateful, except that he's got his overfear jumping in
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and doing the same. And even worse, he's willing to
go in and disrupt the entire departments. So I don't know.
Speaker 15 (28:13):
He's doing things that are illegal. He's never been elected
or appointed by anyone. He's appointed to some made up.
Speaker 14 (28:25):
I don't even know what to call it, because it's A.
Speaker 11 (28:29):
It's a it's a non it's a non legislated post,
and Trump just recreated the post yet again in order
to allow him to avoid ethics. Anyway, I think we're
about at the end of the first half. This is
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Eric Bauman, host of The Uncommon Sense Democrat, right here
in NBC Radio. Case a A. I'm joined today by
professors Ronald Blaker and professor and influencer George Blake. I
don't know who he's influencing, but I guess we'll find out.
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Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. This is Eric common hosts
of the Uncommon Sense Democrat, right here on NBC Radio KCAA.
I am joined today by Professor Rona Blaker and professor
and influencer George Blake. Somebody asked me if they were
once married, and George got mad and chopped the R
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Speaker 15 (32:48):
I think a nice time.
Speaker 14 (32:52):
You might not be harry enough for me.
Speaker 11 (32:57):
Well, I don't know about that. We went to the
we went to the Disconsole Gardens and I was in
my wheelchair because there's no way I could walk that
mile on a quarter. And she decided she was going
to be my wheelchair driver, and she managed to get
me all around that park and this console gardens is
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not an easy place to get around.
Speaker 15 (33:25):
So we are time.
Speaker 11 (33:29):
Say that again.
Speaker 15 (33:31):
I said, we had a great time. And I want
to respond to something George said before the break about
we're going to have to learn how to fight. I
because I've been thinking about that all all months, or
hasn't been a month yet. You know, I'm an older person.
Speaker 14 (33:53):
And I know how to do all the old things.
Speaker 15 (33:55):
I knew how to make phone calls and talk to
people and knock on doors and things that just seems
so useless now. And I think George is right, and
I'm not sure where to learn how to do that.
You know, I spend so many times, so much time
going on a woman's march.
Speaker 16 (34:14):
What does that do?
Speaker 15 (34:15):
Nothing? I want someone, and I don't know who it
will be. Maybe it'll be you, Eric, to teach me
how to fight harder, because I think our culture, our society,
our democracy is in trouble, and I do want to.
Speaker 14 (34:34):
Fight, but I don't know how.
Speaker 11 (34:37):
No, well, you know, there's fighting and there's fighting, all right,
think about this. There's fighting and there's fighting. I'm not
sure if you call it fighting. I'm not sure if
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you call fighting in the non physical context. But really,
that's what we have to be able to do, is
we have to be able to blow these people up
so to speak. I don't mean that in a physical sense.
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And we must be able to replace air crappy policy
introductions with other options. And we've got to you know,
we've got to get to that. We've got to get
that figured out.
Speaker 14 (35:40):
Well, look at what Trump has done. One of the
things he did very effectively was he didn't and we
all thought it was so strange. Remember, he was going
to state that did not seem like they made sense,
it was going to media that also did not seem
to make sense, and in those non traditional paths was
able to carve up a coalition that was willing to
(36:02):
vote for him. The Manisphere, for instance, there was nothing
on the Democratic side until the very end that we
start offering something specifically to young male working class and
four voters. As Democrats, we wanted to be aspirational, so
we made it about middle class. Well, most of the
country is not middle class, and most of us country
(36:25):
will never become middle class. And Trump says that, he
says to them, I love that you are who you are.
I love the poorly educated. And we say, everybody go
to college. And so we've got to listen to that
and go most of them are not going to do this.
The majority of them are going to live a life
that is not aspirational. And somehow we have to say
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to them, right where you are. For instance, minimum wage
a place where Kamala Harris would have reached every single
one of them was minimum wage. They understand the minimum wage,
but they don't understand and incentive on a bit on
being an entrepreneur to become middle class. That sounds like
a pipe dream to them. All they want is for
their lives to get better, to not make nine dollars
(37:09):
an hour and to make twelve dollars an hour. That's
what they want to hear. They aren't basic, and so
Democrats need to get basic and stop with this inspirational
crap and That's why some of the folks that are
there have got to go, because they are so married
to the ideology that everybody wants to be Barack Obama,
(37:31):
that we're missing the ones that have no desire to
ever even be near him, and all they care about
is their pickup strap. When we got to stop making
fun of them and saying they're all stupid. We got
to stop that because we're losing because we have our
noses in the air and they're always too happy to
punch the visits. So we got to put our noses down.
(37:53):
We got to do things like go into the spaces. Well,
did you be great in a podcast? Do a podcast?
You might not think you're people, but you are. This
is rahere people are are now where they're becoming up.
We're becoming our own press. We're no longer relying on
those sources. AOC has the right ticket, She has her
thumb right on it. She streams streaming, is playing a
(38:15):
video game live online while she's talking about politics. It's brilliant,
that's brilliant. But our party says, no, howep now know
Jamal Bowman, We're gonna We're gonna let APAC take you
out even though you are young and progressive. We let
that happen to a lot of our young progressives because
(38:37):
they disagree with Apak and we should never have let
that become a reason to kick them out of Congress,
because we end up losing the balance of power. And
so we've got to start saying, you know what, we
can disagree with them, but they know how to reach
this younger audience. They talk like them, they dance like them.
They are part of that post and if we want
(38:58):
we want that vote, we've got to get it. Even
seem like Trump would be the least one to do that,
he is the one to do it because guess what,
at every rally he would do his little stupid dance
and it becomes predictable and fun for people familiar. That's
why he te chose why in PA, because it's familiar.
(39:19):
He wasn't cuty, he didn't find the latest greatest celebrity.
He was like, what is regular and normal and boring.
That's what they want, and he gave us to them,
and he took all their uns. And now he's don't
take their power.
Speaker 11 (39:37):
Well, unfortunately, I fear you're probably right. I fear you're
probably right, and Uh, I guess we're going to see
what happens.
Speaker 14 (39:52):
Huh, Yeah, I'm hopeful. And how King Jeffreys is march
as long as he's willing to take some with outside
of what his best advisors, with their decade wrong.
Speaker 11 (40:04):
Experience, have told them.
Speaker 14 (40:06):
And sometimes you've got to go with his gut and say,
you know what, we're in a new era and those
folks don't even want to be here. They're they're going
to be here. We have to win now. And so
even even Democrats coming out in and saying that there's
a multiple point plan, and the truth is, if you
read the plant, it's the best you can do when
(40:26):
you have zero power. It's the best option. It's punching.
And then they can't do a lot. But they're willing
to do as much as they can right now. But
they also have to be willing to do with the
Republicans have always done brilliantly, which has hit the Sunday shows.
Every Democrat everywhere, get off your butt on Sunday. Hits
(40:47):
the Sunday shows, the local shows and start jumping up
and down saying they're taking everything from you. You don't
have to be smarts. They're taking they're not going to
be solving. Stop using words like solving. Stop it and
start saying they're gonna take your money, they're gonna rob you.
It's they're gonna steal from you. You don't stay solvent
(41:10):
because it sounds large because you've talked over their heads again,
and after they hear they're fealing from you, then they
don't want somebody feeling from them. It's really that simple.
In some cases, it really is. We you have to
just say it plain enough and all the time. And
all the Democrats that are in Congress, all of them
needs to be working on that constantly and not letting
(41:32):
go of any media that will let them say it,
and not sitting on their bus in Washington waiting for
a chance to get in front of the cameras when
there's something to do, or get out of here or
get out there running.
Speaker 11 (41:44):
When Hillary was running for president, I was I was
doing the tour giving speeches, and you know, somebody challenged
me about what the hell we were doing, and I said, well,
(42:05):
we're trying to you know, we're trying to bring regularity
two to the country. And this one old white guy said,
you realize that for us, we want to be like them.
(42:30):
So we don't like attacking them because we want to
be like them, and if we attack them, we'll never
be like them. Mhmm. And scary as that is, it's true.
Speaker 14 (42:47):
Yeah, yeah. We keep voting in peoples of power and
oppressed each because we want to We want power impressieche.
So Democrats need to get and start purposely recruiting local
celebrities in all of these districts and start challenging these
(43:08):
Republicans and making a fifty state solution and not a
blue wall. Lets that old crap go blue wall. That's nonsense.
Speaker 11 (43:17):
That was the stupid.
Speaker 14 (43:18):
There are so many places where Democrats could I remember
what was that state that one seat, there was one district,
one vote. I think it was North Dakota. That could
have been a Democratic flip. There's no reason, there's no
it's because there's no resources. You had Debbie Mark mark
Houssel and in Florida, she got almost no help from
(43:39):
a Democratic Party.
Speaker 11 (43:40):
I was shocked.
Speaker 14 (43:42):
I was shocked. Where was her national platform. She was
trying to win in that state and she got close.
She was running his corrupt ricks. We couldn't beat Rick
Scott after these old people's I mean had to be
people's medicare. We couldn't beat him.
Speaker 11 (43:58):
When when I was chairing of the California Democratic Party,
we didn't allow the D tripleC to run our campaign
from Washington, and I said, I met with the executive
director of the D Triple C, which is a Democratic
congressional campaign committee. We met in Las Vegas. I'll never
(44:22):
forget it. And I said, look, let's be real here.
We can't just knock these people down when then this
is their aspiration, their aspiration. It's not like when we
(44:44):
were young and the aspiration was to go to college
and you know, have a good job and make a
good living. That's not the aspiration anymore. Nope, So Democrats
must indeed get their act together. How do you think
the rest of the Democratic team is doing well? And
(45:04):
how do you think how Kim is doing.
Speaker 14 (45:07):
I actually think he's doing good job. I think he
needs I feel Nancy Pelosi's training wheels are still on there.
It still feels like that. It doesn't feel like he's
completely unfettered. I feel like he wants to stay more
and do more, and there's some constraint that I don't understand.
There's not a need to be constraint when you have
no power. That's not when you can be the most
(45:30):
unhid because you're more likely to be voted back in
with the next wing if you handle it right. And
so I think he's doing a great job. I think
I really think the Democratic Party has really done AOC
dirty I do that not putting her in charge of
that committee makes no sense. And one of the things
that we do in our party, which is crazy, is
we do this thing about what you've earned it, because
(45:51):
you've been here long enough. That's how we ended up
with Merrick Garland, who was completely ineffective against Trump. Let's
just be frank about how long did it take from
a Margarlands who finally do the raid on mar Laga
which slowed down the entire process, and we ended up
with the judge and the whole thing was just terribly
had mishandled. We got a bad ag because the President
(46:15):
felt bad about him mocking an appointment to the Supreme Court.
And Democrats do that too much. We need to start
going for who is strong, who is tough enough, who
has a track record, who can get there, not who
earned it. It's not about who earned it we're getting nowhere.
Speaker 11 (46:29):
With the problem is we believe this is a meritocracy,
which is lash.
Speaker 14 (46:36):
Right, and that's the way to be because the truth
is Barack Obama never would He would never have been
president if that was in play for him, he would.
They had just taken the wrapper off of his senator
of his senator chair. Behind his death. It was still
squeaking before they made him president, so they knew he
(46:59):
had at it. So the thing is, we got to
start doing more of that, and like I said, get
these local celebrities is the way to go. People like celebrity.
They feel like they know that person, and especially if
the person talks plainly, they will both them and they'll
vote in the local coach. That's how we just how
they got what's his name? Not tell us the other one.
Speaker 11 (47:23):
The coach, the football the football coach, yes in Alabama shut.
Speaker 14 (47:29):
Down a military appointment because he was a football coach.
So Democrats got to get smart and stop going.
Speaker 11 (47:35):
This person's been a lawyer and they serve their community.
Stop that online.
Speaker 14 (47:44):
That's what I million followers share again said, but Democrats
need to ask if what's their social media profiles? Do
they have a million followers, because I don't want another
great candidate with eight thousand followers that's not going to win.
I want the ones who's the celebrity star who's willing
to do it. Get them in there. Win, just win sometimes.
(48:08):
And when big By going and all of those districts,
there is somebody who is popular, who is a Democrat,
and we don't run those sports figures like that. Republicans
are brilliant at that. They run sports figures and religious figures,
and we can barely get anybody when we're always looking
for somebody with a great resume. And you're right, that
era is over, the era of Alex P. Keaton, who
(48:30):
I grew up with watching Family Tiger and we were
all going to go to college. You were right. We
all wanted to go into finance and wanted to be
Martin savvy and take the world by storm. And then
we found out it was changing because the Internet made
it different.
Speaker 11 (48:43):
Yeah, all right, So I just want everybody to think
about it this way and leave thinking about it this way.
That's the reason that a lot of lower income people
don't rise up, don't fight back, is because these are
(49:06):
the people that they want to be. They want to
have that spending power. They want to have that sense
of power. And then and I don't know if I
should go on with this, but I guess I will.
(49:30):
There is the issue of there is the issue of
why are people so uncomfortable, particularly Midwestern but low income
people and people with you know, without a lot of
with without a lot of money, without a lot of power.
(49:54):
And what they say is, our families used to control
the cities and towns we lived in, and then they
moved in all these black people and Asian people and
Latino people, and suddenly their power was diluted. And you
(50:18):
think about that, that's not a it's not a grand
spot to be in.
Speaker 14 (50:26):
Well apt to adapt to. They have to just adapt
like everyone else.
Speaker 11 (50:32):
Yeah, all right, let's move on to our next feature,
because it's probably gonna be the last feature we get to.
All of a sudden, we hear serious conversations about school
vouchers and other right wing features. For lack of a
better word, lack of a better phrase, I should say,
(51:00):
school vouchers is something that I have always thought was
an asthma, in part because I don't want my money,
my tax dollars, going to support some private businessman who
owns a school to support a religious school. Well, listen,
(51:25):
in my Jewish community, a lot of them would like
to have vouchers because Jewish school is so expensive, and
for that matter, Catholic school is that expensive. So we're
gonna have to see where they go with this, if
(51:46):
they get anywhere with this. What do you guys think
about vouchers?
Speaker 16 (51:55):
Wrong?
Speaker 15 (51:57):
And I'm someone who sent my kids to a Jewish
school when they were young, but I was still happy
that I was paying my taxes for the public school
down the streets. I don't agree with the idea of
school vouchers because when everybody takes it's going to go
to the people with money, They're going to take their
(52:18):
kids out of it. We've seen this three years and
years they take their kids down of the public school,
the public school declines. As opposed to some places in
the valley. Here, the Colfax Elementary is a school that
has an enormous amount of parents involvement. I'm just such
really good school. But if you don't have the parents
(52:41):
being involved in that level, the teachers can't do everything,
the administrators can't do everything.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
It has to be a community.
Speaker 15 (52:48):
And when you take those people out of the equation.
I think the schools suffer.
Speaker 14 (52:55):
The public schools.
Speaker 11 (52:58):
Yeah, purreede, your thoughts go ahead.
Speaker 15 (53:07):
Well, I mean a lot of these problems. This is
what I say every time, this is my soapbox, is
we need to be raising a generation of children who
are critical thinkers. I'm I'm teaching in the community college,
and the students i'm teaching right now miss a great
deal because of the pandemic, and as much as teaching
(53:31):
English grammar, I'm also trying to teach critical thinking, which
sounds like exactly what George was saying when he was saying,
you know, google this and then google that and make
the comparisons. As educators, that's something that we can do
to help is to emphasize the importance of critical thinking
(53:51):
and the importance of sources and reliable sources and doing research.
And that's my passion in my actual job, because I
think it could make a difference in our society. People
in this election, particularly, they didn't look for the source
of the information that they just I think George said
(54:13):
it earlier. They listened to what they wanted to hear.
Speaker 11 (54:18):
Well, if you can't filter, well wait a second, hang on,
George if you can't filter out what the sources are
and who the sources are. In other words, even if
you know who they are, but you can't filter out
is there an agenda? What is the agenda? Is it
(54:38):
a political agenda? Is it a religious agenda? Look, I
don't if the voucher is the same public school, private school,
you know, religious school, whatever, I'm a little bit less
irritated by it, if I can put it that way.
Speaker 14 (55:02):
But well, but the problem is vouchers fly in the
face of what public education is really about. Public education
is not a ticket to go to whatever school you'd
like to. It's based on what the taxes are for
that local area, so that school benefits in that way.
But there's a lot of other problems that go along
with these bonds. Because the administrative costs, it's very difficult
(55:24):
to get these programs going. And if you're already in
a low income district, you are going to create double
the problem. There's racial segregation and ethnic segregation, a lot
of time pacts because of these programs. This is a
way more white flights. The other thing is that not
only are their families that are the wealthy ones that
will take their kids out but it's also a two
(55:45):
parent household where there's double the income of the single
family household is more likely to extend themselves and pay
the additional cost to put their kid into a private
school on top of their vouchers, thereby depleting that local area.
So it hurts everyone. If the main thing is that
it does not guarantee any academic success, because all of
this bs about Boucher programs is we'll go go to
(56:05):
a better school and they'll learn more. There is actually
factual data that supports that Boucher program decreased the academic
score of students when it comes to maths specifically, and
to some degree when it comes to English. So it
does not lead to a better education. And if you're
wondering whether it's political or whether it's racial, I will
tell you Eric, it's all of those rolled up into
(56:27):
one word called class. It is a class distinction and
how we keep people out. If you are uneducated, you
can't be in the conversation, you can't show up the matter,
and so it's all about class.
Speaker 11 (56:41):
I was invited to speak at a school, and I
won't identify where it was because then people will know
what school it was. And I walked into the place
and it was clean and spiffy. I mean, it was
(57:04):
really nice. And then I go in to meet the
students because they're in class already, and even though I
still have a few meetings, I want to meet the
students because they're all gossiping about why the chairman of
the Democratic Party is they're visiting them. And these kids
(57:24):
are sharp, They're sharp, just so spot on. So I
learned that this was a charter school that was partially
(57:46):
public funded and partially private funded. And these kids, I
don't mean this the way it's going to sound, but
they were clean, and they were and they were well
put together, and they studied and that was a good thing.
(58:08):
But the question I always end up coming down to,
is there a difference between one part one parent and
two parent households. I settle on the fact that yes,
there's a difference, but that doesn't mean single parents can't
raise kids. Anyway, we're at go ahead, we're down.
Speaker 14 (58:31):
To the life last minute, quick out. So yes, I
was raised in a single parent household, and I totally
agree with you. My point is just that these programs
often are about elitism and the idea that somehow you're
going to gain something greater from them when there's no
proof that it is there any academic success from it. Well,
it certainly does deplete a neighborhood school and cause it
(58:53):
to be underfunded. That school then get closed or kids
get moved around so and they or they get moved
into schools where they're class eyed grow because it's no
longer did.
Speaker 11 (59:01):
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Speaker 11 (05:58):
Well, good afternoon, lilies and gentlemen, and welcome to a wonderful, cloudy,
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I have today as my guests, professors Ronald Blaker and
George Blake. We're going to talk about a wide range
(06:23):
of things. As always, somebody's fidgeting around here making a
lot of noise, and so I guess let's just get
right into it. What is the latest in Trump's world
(06:44):
chaos and blame game. I will start with the fact
that he announced yesterday that he wants to take over
Gaza and turn it into the Riviera of the Middle East.
That doesn't sit well with anybody because in order to
(07:07):
do that, you got about two thousand, got about two
thousand Palestinians there who have to be evacuated somewhere, and
that means the place where I think it's civilian. I
(07:29):
think that's yeah, that's what I said, and so and
so we'll start off there. You know, he thinks he
looks like a big man when he makes these threats.
You'll hear me say that again in a minute. But
(07:54):
what do you all think about this?
Speaker 14 (08:00):
It's illegals Okay, it's immoral, it's diabolical.
Speaker 15 (08:09):
It's diabolical.
Speaker 11 (08:10):
There you go. Since when does any of that ever
stop Trump?
Speaker 14 (08:16):
But this also harkens back to the interview that Jared
Kushner had done last year, where he also openly said
that God would be beautiful waterfront property. So the gorulessness
started last year. And so this plan is as nefarious
as it is. It's about capitalism, wasn't anything else?
Speaker 11 (08:41):
Yeah, I suppose you're probably right. And of course, who's gonna,
you know, get the port of entry fees or whatever.
I'm sure it's somebody whose last name is Trump. So
all right, well, he's continue to make.
Speaker 15 (09:04):
It's not possible, and he must know that.
Speaker 11 (09:11):
I don't think he cares.
Speaker 14 (09:13):
I don't think that.
Speaker 11 (09:16):
I think he's First of all, he's being the disruptor
in chief, right, which which is a role that he likes.
And second of all, he's creating chaos, and he operates
best in an environment of chaos. But when somebody say, again, other.
Speaker 14 (09:45):
Thing is because then no one can see how completely
inept he is. If everybody is swinging from the raptors,
nobody notices what he's not doing. And one thing I
will say about Trump is beyond any.
Speaker 11 (09:55):
And all of the things.
Speaker 14 (09:56):
He is most importantly a bully, and a bully is
not really interested in the fight because there's a risk
the bully could lose. But what they definitely want is
for everybody to be upset all day, all night, every day,
afraid of the threat, because the threat is always ten
times worse than actually taking the bully on.
Speaker 11 (10:19):
A very good point. Well, he's been making all kinds
of other crazy threats. I'm not sure what all they are,
because it's just too many to keep dract of already.
I mean, he's been in office eleven twelve days, and
(10:43):
he's already managed to create utter, incomplete chaos. I'm gonna
loved the one he came out. He said he was
imposing a ten percent tariff on Mexico, Canada, and China
Ago in China, Mexico and Canada smacked back and immediately
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imposed tariffs on the United States. So therefore our goods
going into either of those countries would have a twenty
five tariff on them. I don't know where we're going
to go from here, but this is not good. But
what I what I will say is that the presidents
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of Canada and Mexico pushed back, fought back.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
And.
Speaker 11 (11:37):
They imposed the same exact tariffs on goods coming from there. Boy,
it's amazing howick, It's amazing how quick he backed down
from something that was already in place. He demanded ten
thousand troops we put at the Mexican border. In ten
thousand troops be put at the Canadian border. Well, does
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he not know that they were there already? But he
said they agreed to hit go ahead? What'd you say, Rona?
Speaker 15 (12:09):
Apparently not. He doesn't seem to know what's going on
in his own administration, in his own country, And always
he's making all of his chaos and all of these
things are happening, and meanwhile, behind the scenes, Elon Musk
is going into offices and grabbing all of our data.
Speaker 14 (12:28):
And that's it, really is. The entire thing here is
a SiO. It's a dish gallop to get people running
around to whack them ole. Whatever he said this moment.
What he says is so unimportant compared to what he does.
But if you're paying atten, somebody says, you never know
what he's doing because you think everything is going to
happen he's going to stop transgender athletes, he's going to
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repeal the fourteenth Amendment. Things you know that he cannot do,
but he does not. He's not nive. He knows he
cannot do these things, but he so it's keenly aware
said about them as the headlines. And again, no one's
paying attention to whatever craziness is going on involving Elon
Musk and his fifteen ban of fifteen little infels with
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their fingers all into the government. When during the Trump
administration the first time we had the greatest breeze of
security hit the history of the country. We're facing that
again and there's no stopping some of it. But at
least we should be paying attention to that rather than
to the threats against women, black people, trans into people,
all those that all the nonsense, All that's the nonsense.
Speaker 11 (13:37):
Well, I think I said this last week on here.
The one that causes me to chuckle the most is
Caitlyn Jenner or whatever his name her name is now
since well because since Trump erased trans people right, they
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don't exist anymore. So is Caitlyn Jenner Bruce or is
Caitlyn Jenner Caitlyn? And does she still go out there
and support him. Think about this good question, right, because
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you know that was his big supporter, and he could
claim to have trans supporters.
Speaker 15 (14:26):
Has she made any statements?
Speaker 11 (14:30):
Has I'm sorry, I didn't hear what you said.
Speaker 15 (14:34):
Has Caitlyn Has Caitlyn Jenner made any statements since Trump
started all of this nonsense, not to.
Speaker 11 (14:42):
My knowledge, not to mine, But.
Speaker 14 (14:49):
I wasna right now. All the people that voted for
whatever caused, anti Kamala Harris, pro Palestine, whatever the causes were,
or I'm sick of both, and I'm a double hater
and I'm sitting at home, they're all looking back at
what that election has brought, and none of them can
(15:11):
say that there wasn't some complicity on everybody's part to
create the environment that's here. It wasn't magic.
Speaker 11 (15:19):
Yeah, Well, I fear that with his chaos and his
blame game, because you know, he's blaming everybody for everything,
(15:39):
and I think that it's a dangerous position to be
in right now, dangerous position to be in, especially with
this lunatic who is unhinged, and he is unhinged, you know,
(16:03):
in the middle of it. Oh all right, so Musk
said yesterday, I guess it was that he wants to
take all the money out of Social Security and Medicare,
(16:25):
money that, by the way, you and I paid in
for the years and years. What what is if they
if they really attempt to do that. I mean, you know,
we never got al Gore's lock box. Think about that.
(16:48):
Sofa Security, Medicare, Medicaid and other programs that we have
funded ourselves are sitting prime for the picking.
Speaker 14 (17:05):
Well, I think more prime for the fooling around with.
Even though there is a big threat that Elon must
is gonna take all the money and put it in
a bag and run away, there's nowhere to run to,
and so that isn't going to happen. What will happen
is our information is being manipulated. What can happen is
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access to those accounts can lead to different kinds of
problem insolvency because of the amount of programs that they
pay out. So I think it's will be more mechanical
issues that they can create. But I think that's what
his goal is. Elon Musk is a freaking super villain
in a movie. He's the richest man in the world,
getting involved in governments all around the world, not just
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one government, and so there's I'm honestly, I have been shocked.
And this is not without some thought of thinking about
that this man is safe because he's really screwing around
what people the food they eat, and he does not
he does not get from the echelon from which he
sees that this is the survival of a human being.
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And you push up human being to the end and
you will see what they are capable of. Or, as
my mother used to say, you don't have to feed
the poor because they'll just come and take your food.
Speaker 11 (18:22):
Yeah, well, I think that's probably quite true. I think
that is probably quite true. Well, I think there's you know,
there are so many millions of people in America who
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depends on social security. Yeah, you know the organization that
my uncle is the head of, at least he's the
head of the pack. You know, they're dedicated to to
keeping social security alive. And a lot of folks over
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the age of sixty five or who have disabilities who
are really dependent on getting their social security. Yeah.
Speaker 14 (19:21):
So we couldn't understand that because he comes from an
apartheid system. He could also never understand it because he
comes from wealth. So to those people, it looks like
the government is handing out free money. They don't want
to hear that you pay in over the years because
they don't think you're taking out what you put in.
They're not interested in how that program works at all.
They would rather dismantle it. And the Republicans have been
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trying to privatize those security since I was born. I've
been hearing this sin since in the early eighties. I've
been hearing privatized, privatized. Put it on the stock market,
and let's give it a right and let's see what
happens to it.
Speaker 11 (19:57):
I am like, do it.
Speaker 14 (19:58):
They should go and do it, and when they destroy it,
then they will reap the benefits of what that is.
Because American citizens are not going to fit.
Speaker 11 (20:04):
At home and starve to death.
Speaker 14 (20:06):
They're not.
Speaker 11 (20:08):
They're just not going to do it.
Speaker 14 (20:10):
And so I think they might see a revolution they're
not prepared for.
Speaker 11 (20:18):
And you can, and you can only force the military
to do so much against citizens.
Speaker 14 (20:23):
That's right, because they too are citizen, right as their
grandmother too, who lost our social security too, Who's going
to die because he doesn't have a many case they're not.
That's only going to go so far. But that's where
that's the foidble of the rich. They are stupid enough
to make us aware that we don't have anything. When
we are unaware that we are not rich, we go
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about our lives trying to be like them. But when
they flaunt it in this in this French revolution way
they are, they're dangerously close defining themselves without any protection.
No one will protect you when all of us are starving.
No one's going to let you continue to that five
hundred billion dollars while their families start. It's completely insane.
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I would think the rich would be smart to say,
let's just give them some money so they don't know.
Speaker 11 (21:15):
Yeah, well, and and frankly, you know you talk about
cures for homelessness and such. Without their self security, they
can't pay rent, so you know, it becomes that it
becomes that mouse trap game where you know, you stop
(21:38):
being able to pay your rent, your landlord stops you
wile to pay his mortgage. Mortgage company doesn't get your money,
and what are they going to do? Throw a whole
house out on on you know, on the street.
Speaker 14 (21:55):
And that I don't think, especially when you had, like
years ago, I had my school or actually you last year,
had them just google on your phones what would it
take right now to solve the homeless crisis in the
United States, And it's about twenty billion dollars between seventeen
and twenty two billions. And then I asked them to
google the networth of Ilanama. That's five hundred billion now
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to see that the incredible disparity between one first having
and not wealth to twenty five times over solve the
homeless problem. And instead they would rather worship and empower
him and give him even more wealth and even more power.
Is completely in vain. We get nowhere by praising wealth
in this country, but we're addicted to it. We love dynasty.
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We all want to be rich. And that's the problem
because as long as we want to be rich, we
will protect them.
Speaker 11 (22:50):
Yeah. When I forget who, I forget who is running
for president. I was doing a little bit of prep
for a speech I was going to give to this
big crowd. I started to notice that all of these
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all of these people were buying into this nonsense. And
you know, it's like they didn't care that they were
screwing themselves. And the truth is, I'm not sure they knew.
Speaker 14 (23:40):
No, I don't think they knew.
Speaker 10 (23:43):
I don't think.
Speaker 14 (23:43):
Yeah, somehow they were able to see the R and
T with a massive crowd holding up signs saying mass deportation,
and it literally did not go in. That's kind of
nothing you can say of it. An entire crowd putting
up a warning sign above their heads and it still
(24:04):
means nothing. Well, Thomas Housing, we'll improve the housing problem
in the United States. We'll build two million new homes.
We'll give you access to be able to buy those homes.
That was not enough, because there is something that we
must all reckon with about the messaging of Donald Trump
(24:26):
that is intoxicating and yeah, what is that? Well, but
that's the thing is we can't I would say, we
have to be careful not to look down on it
because it's kicked our ass. Sorry not, but well we can't.
We can't get beaten up by somebody and then lookdown
(24:48):
on the way they fight and say, well, they don't
fight by the rules, but we just got beat up,
so we can keep getting beat up, so we a
complaining about how they're not following the rules, or we
can learn to fight. I mean, that's really what it
is here. We have to really look at it and go,
you know what, he doesn't talk over their heads. Democrats
keep talking over everyone's heads. Well, we know is some
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white Cooper steps. No one knows what that means. He
stood in front of groceries. He had never been to
a grocery store in his life. And the man stood
in front of groceries and pretended to know what they were,
and they all believed him. For Kamala Harris, who's actually
been to a grocery store, didn't do that. And even
if you would have copied it, it still would have
gotten some boats because people are that simple minded. The
(25:35):
American public is not informed and doesn't want to be.
Speaker 11 (25:42):
No, well, I don't disagree with you to a great extent.
And you know, we better get our stuff. Intact, we
better get uh, we better get our things in order.
Speaker 14 (26:06):
To do the same thing. And I mean some of
the people that have been there for thirty five years
have got to go because they don't know how to
do a new thing. And it's not their fault. But
after thirty five years, how could you you know what
I mean?
Speaker 11 (26:24):
Well, that's one thing in medicine, you know that here's
the constant struggle to keep people up to date, latest medications,
latest treatments. Yeah, you know, because if you've got a
nurse who's out on a unit taking care of patients
and the doctor orders of medication they've never heard of,
(26:47):
and it's not yet in the books. Remember that it's
not yet in the books. So unless the pharmacy, that is,
if your hospital is really sharp, you don't have a
place to turn. Yeah. I think it's part of the
(27:08):
reason they started putting the flyers in with the medigations.
I think it's part of that reason. Well, I think
that Donald Trump is clearly unhinged. Oh yeah, and he
(27:30):
is such a powermonger and such a hater. We didn't
talk about that part, but you know, maybe we'll have
a couple of minutes at the end we can talk
about it. I have never seen a man who is
more hateful, except that he's got his overfear jumping in
(27:56):
and doing the same. And even worse, he's willing to
go in and disrupt the entire departments. So I don't know.
Speaker 15 (28:13):
He's doing things that are illegal. He's never been elected
or appointed by anyone. He's appointed to some made up.
Speaker 14 (28:25):
I don't even know what to call it, because it's A.
Speaker 11 (28:29):
It's a it's a non it's a non legislated post,
and Trump just recreated the post yet again in order
to allow him to avoid ethics. Anyway, I think we're
about at the end of the first half. This is
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Eric Bauman, host of The Uncommon Sense Democrat, right here
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Speaker 11 (32:23):
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. This is Eric common hosts
of the Uncommon Sense Democrat, right here on NBC Radio KCAA.
I am joined today by Professor Rona Blaker and professor
and influencer George Blake. Somebody asked me if they were
once married, and George got mad and chopped the R
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off of his name.
Speaker 15 (32:48):
I think a nice time.
Speaker 14 (32:52):
You might not be harry enough for me.
Speaker 11 (32:57):
Well, I don't know about that. We went to the
we went to the Disconsole Gardens and I was in
my wheelchair because there's no way I could walk that
mile on a quarter. And she decided she was going
to be my wheelchair driver, and she managed to get
me all around that park and this console gardens is
(33:21):
not an easy place to get around.
Speaker 15 (33:25):
So we are time.
Speaker 11 (33:29):
Say that again.
Speaker 15 (33:31):
I said, we had a great time. And I want
to respond to something George said before the break about
we're going to have to learn how to fight. I
because I've been thinking about that all all months, or
hasn't been a month yet. You know, I'm an older person.
Speaker 14 (33:53):
And I know how to do all the old things.
Speaker 15 (33:55):
I knew how to make phone calls and talk to
people and knock on doors and things that just seems
so useless now. And I think George is right, and
I'm not sure where to learn how to do that.
You know, I spend so many times, so much time
going on a woman's march.
Speaker 16 (34:14):
What does that do?
Speaker 15 (34:15):
Nothing? I want someone, and I don't know who it
will be. Maybe it'll be you, Eric, to teach me
how to fight harder, because I think our culture, our society,
our democracy is in trouble, and I do want to.
Speaker 14 (34:34):
Fight, but I don't know how.
Speaker 11 (34:37):
No, well, you know, there's fighting and there's fighting, all right,
think about this. There's fighting and there's fighting. I'm not
sure if you call it fighting. I'm not sure if
(34:59):
you call fighting in the non physical context. But really,
that's what we have to be able to do, is
we have to be able to blow these people up
so to speak. I don't mean that in a physical sense.
(35:20):
And we must be able to replace air crappy policy
introductions with other options. And we've got to you know,
we've got to get to that. We've got to get
that figured out.
Speaker 14 (35:40):
Well, look at what Trump has done. One of the
things he did very effectively was he didn't and we
all thought it was so strange. Remember, he was going
to state that did not seem like they made sense,
it was going to media that also did not seem
to make sense, and in those non traditional paths was
able to carve up a coalition that was willing to
(36:02):
vote for him. The Manisphere, for instance, there was nothing
on the Democratic side until the very end that we
start offering something specifically to young male working class and
four voters. As Democrats, we wanted to be aspirational, so
we made it about middle class. Well, most of the
country is not middle class, and most of us country
(36:25):
will never become middle class. And Trump says that, he
says to them, I love that you are who you are.
I love the poorly educated. And we say, everybody go
to college. And so we've got to listen to that
and go most of them are not going to do this.
The majority of them are going to live a life
that is not aspirational. And somehow we have to say
(36:47):
to them, right where you are. For instance, minimum wage
a place where Kamala Harris would have reached every single
one of them was minimum wage. They understand the minimum wage,
but they don't understand and incentive on a bit on
being an entrepreneur to become middle class. That sounds like
a pipe dream to them. All they want is for
their lives to get better, to not make nine dollars
(37:09):
an hour and to make twelve dollars an hour. That's
what they want to hear. They aren't basic, and so
Democrats need to get basic and stop with this inspirational
crap and That's why some of the folks that are
there have got to go, because they are so married
to the ideology that everybody wants to be Barack Obama,
(37:31):
that we're missing the ones that have no desire to
ever even be near him, and all they care about
is their pickup strap. When we got to stop making
fun of them and saying they're all stupid. We got
to stop that because we're losing because we have our
noses in the air and they're always too happy to
punch the visits. So we got to put our noses down.
(37:53):
We got to do things like go into the spaces. Well,
did you be great in a podcast? Do a podcast?
You might not think you're people, but you are. This
is rahere people are are now where they're becoming up.
We're becoming our own press. We're no longer relying on
those sources. AOC has the right ticket, She has her
thumb right on it. She streams streaming, is playing a
(38:15):
video game live online while she's talking about politics. It's brilliant,
that's brilliant. But our party says, no, howep now know
Jamal Bowman, We're gonna We're gonna let APAC take you
out even though you are young and progressive. We let
that happen to a lot of our young progressives because
(38:37):
they disagree with Apak and we should never have let
that become a reason to kick them out of Congress,
because we end up losing the balance of power. And
so we've got to start saying, you know what, we
can disagree with them, but they know how to reach
this younger audience. They talk like them, they dance like them.
They are part of that post and if we want
(38:58):
we want that vote, we've got to get it. Even
seem like Trump would be the least one to do that,
he is the one to do it because guess what,
at every rally he would do his little stupid dance
and it becomes predictable and fun for people familiar. That's
why he te chose why in PA, because it's familiar.
(39:19):
He wasn't cuty, he didn't find the latest greatest celebrity.
He was like, what is regular and normal and boring.
That's what they want, and he gave us to them,
and he took all their uns. And now he's don't
take their power.
Speaker 11 (39:37):
Well, unfortunately, I fear you're probably right. I fear you're
probably right, and Uh, I guess we're going to see
what happens.
Speaker 14 (39:52):
Huh, Yeah, I'm hopeful. And how King Jeffreys is march
as long as he's willing to take some with outside
of what his best advisors, with their decade wrong.
Speaker 11 (40:04):
Experience, have told them.
Speaker 14 (40:06):
And sometimes you've got to go with his gut and say,
you know what, we're in a new era and those
folks don't even want to be here. They're they're going
to be here. We have to win now. And so
even even Democrats coming out in and saying that there's
a multiple point plan, and the truth is, if you
read the plant, it's the best you can do when
(40:26):
you have zero power. It's the best option. It's punching.
And then they can't do a lot. But they're willing
to do as much as they can right now. But
they also have to be willing to do with the
Republicans have always done brilliantly, which has hit the Sunday shows.
Every Democrat everywhere, get off your butt on Sunday. Hits
(40:47):
the Sunday shows, the local shows and start jumping up
and down saying they're taking everything from you. You don't
have to be smarts. They're taking they're not going to
be solving. Stop using words like solving. Stop it and
start saying they're gonna take your money, they're gonna rob you.
It's they're gonna steal from you. You don't stay solvent
(41:10):
because it sounds large because you've talked over their heads again,
and after they hear they're fealing from you, then they
don't want somebody feeling from them. It's really that simple.
In some cases, it really is. We you have to
just say it plain enough and all the time. And
all the Democrats that are in Congress, all of them
needs to be working on that constantly and not letting
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go of any media that will let them say it,
and not sitting on their bus in Washington waiting for
a chance to get in front of the cameras when
there's something to do, or get out of here or
get out there running.
Speaker 11 (41:44):
When Hillary was running for president, I was I was
doing the tour giving speeches, and you know, somebody challenged
me about what the hell we were doing, and I said, well,
(42:05):
we're trying to you know, we're trying to bring regularity
two to the country. And this one old white guy said,
you realize that for us, we want to be like them.
(42:30):
So we don't like attacking them because we want to
be like them, and if we attack them, we'll never
be like them. Mhmm. And scary as that is, it's true.
Speaker 14 (42:47):
Yeah, yeah. We keep voting in peoples of power and
oppressed each because we want to We want power impressieche.
So Democrats need to get and start purposely recruiting local
celebrities in all of these districts and start challenging these
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Republicans and making a fifty state solution and not a
blue wall. Lets that old crap go blue wall. That's nonsense.
Speaker 11 (43:17):
That was the stupid.
Speaker 14 (43:18):
There are so many places where Democrats could I remember
what was that state that one seat, there was one district,
one vote. I think it was North Dakota. That could
have been a Democratic flip. There's no reason, there's no
it's because there's no resources. You had Debbie Mark mark
Houssel and in Florida, she got almost no help from
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a Democratic Party.
Speaker 11 (43:40):
I was shocked.
Speaker 14 (43:42):
I was shocked. Where was her national platform. She was
trying to win in that state and she got close.
She was running his corrupt ricks. We couldn't beat Rick
Scott after these old people's I mean had to be
people's medicare. We couldn't beat him.
Speaker 11 (43:58):
When when I was chairing of the California Democratic Party,
we didn't allow the D tripleC to run our campaign
from Washington, and I said, I met with the executive
director of the D Triple C, which is a Democratic
congressional campaign committee. We met in Las Vegas. I'll never
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forget it. And I said, look, let's be real here.
We can't just knock these people down when then this
is their aspiration, their aspiration. It's not like when we
(44:44):
were young and the aspiration was to go to college
and you know, have a good job and make a
good living. That's not the aspiration anymore. Nope, So Democrats
must indeed get their act together. How do you think
the rest of the Democratic team is doing well? And
(45:04):
how do you think how Kim is doing.
Speaker 14 (45:07):
I actually think he's doing good job. I think he
needs I feel Nancy Pelosi's training wheels are still on there.
It still feels like that. It doesn't feel like he's
completely unfettered. I feel like he wants to stay more
and do more, and there's some constraint that I don't understand.
There's not a need to be constraint when you have
no power. That's not when you can be the most
(45:30):
unhid because you're more likely to be voted back in
with the next wing if you handle it right. And
so I think he's doing a great job. I think
I really think the Democratic Party has really done AOC
dirty I do that not putting her in charge of
that committee makes no sense. And one of the things
that we do in our party, which is crazy, is
we do this thing about what you've earned it, because
(45:51):
you've been here long enough. That's how we ended up
with Merrick Garland, who was completely ineffective against Trump. Let's
just be frank about how long did it take from
a Margarlands who finally do the raid on mar Laga
which slowed down the entire process, and we ended up
with the judge and the whole thing was just terribly
had mishandled. We got a bad ag because the President
(46:15):
felt bad about him mocking an appointment to the Supreme Court.
And Democrats do that too much. We need to start
going for who is strong, who is tough enough, who
has a track record, who can get there, not who
earned it. It's not about who earned it we're getting nowhere.
Speaker 11 (46:29):
With the problem is we believe this is a meritocracy,
which is lash.
Speaker 14 (46:36):
Right, and that's the way to be because the truth
is Barack Obama never would He would never have been
president if that was in play for him, he would.
They had just taken the wrapper off of his senator
of his senator chair. Behind his death. It was still
squeaking before they made him president, so they knew he
(46:59):
had at it. So the thing is, we got to
start doing more of that, and like I said, get
these local celebrities is the way to go. People like celebrity.
They feel like they know that person, and especially if
the person talks plainly, they will both them and they'll
vote in the local coach. That's how we just how
they got what's his name? Not tell us the other one.
Speaker 11 (47:23):
The coach, the football the football coach, yes in Alabama shut.
Speaker 14 (47:29):
Down a military appointment because he was a football coach.
So Democrats got to get smart and stop going.
Speaker 11 (47:35):
This person's been a lawyer and they serve their community.
Stop that online.
Speaker 14 (47:44):
That's what I million followers share again said, but Democrats
need to ask if what's their social media profiles? Do
they have a million followers, because I don't want another
great candidate with eight thousand followers that's not going to win.
I want the ones who's the celebrity star who's willing
to do it. Get them in there. Win, just win sometimes.
(48:08):
And when big By going and all of those districts,
there is somebody who is popular, who is a Democrat,
and we don't run those sports figures like that. Republicans
are brilliant at that. They run sports figures and religious figures,
and we can barely get anybody when we're always looking
for somebody with a great resume. And you're right, that
era is over, the era of Alex P. Keaton, who
(48:30):
I grew up with watching Family Tiger and we were
all going to go to college. You were right. We
all wanted to go into finance and wanted to be
Martin savvy and take the world by storm. And then
we found out it was changing because the Internet made
it different.
Speaker 11 (48:43):
Yeah, all right, So I just want everybody to think
about it this way and leave thinking about it this way.
That's the reason that a lot of lower income people
don't rise up, don't fight back, is because these are
(49:06):
the people that they want to be. They want to
have that spending power. They want to have that sense
of power. And then and I don't know if I
should go on with this, but I guess I will.
(49:30):
There is the issue of there is the issue of
why are people so uncomfortable, particularly Midwestern but low income
people and people with you know, without a lot of
with without a lot of money, without a lot of power.
(49:54):
And what they say is, our families used to control
the cities and towns we lived in, and then they
moved in all these black people and Asian people and
Latino people, and suddenly their power was diluted. And you
(50:18):
think about that, that's not a it's not a grand
spot to be in.
Speaker 14 (50:26):
Well apt to adapt to. They have to just adapt
like everyone else.
Speaker 11 (50:32):
Yeah, all right, let's move on to our next feature,
because it's probably gonna be the last feature we get to.
All of a sudden, we hear serious conversations about school
vouchers and other right wing features. For lack of a
better word, lack of a better phrase, I should say,
(51:00):
school vouchers is something that I have always thought was
an asthma, in part because I don't want my money,
my tax dollars, going to support some private businessman who
owns a school to support a religious school. Well, listen,
(51:25):
in my Jewish community, a lot of them would like
to have vouchers because Jewish school is so expensive, and
for that matter, Catholic school is that expensive. So we're
gonna have to see where they go with this, if
(51:46):
they get anywhere with this. What do you guys think
about vouchers?
Speaker 16 (51:55):
Wrong?
Speaker 15 (51:57):
And I'm someone who sent my kids to a Jewish
school when they were young, but I was still happy
that I was paying my taxes for the public school
down the streets. I don't agree with the idea of
school vouchers because when everybody takes it's going to go
to the people with money, They're going to take their
(52:18):
kids out of it. We've seen this three years and
years they take their kids down of the public school,
the public school declines. As opposed to some places in
the valley. Here, the Colfax Elementary is a school that
has an enormous amount of parents involvement. I'm just such
really good school. But if you don't have the parents
(52:41):
being involved in that level, the teachers can't do everything,
the administrators can't do everything.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
It has to be a community.
Speaker 15 (52:48):
And when you take those people out of the equation.
I think the schools suffer.
Speaker 14 (52:55):
The public schools.
Speaker 11 (52:58):
Yeah, purreede, your thoughts go ahead.
Speaker 15 (53:07):
Well, I mean a lot of these problems. This is
what I say every time, this is my soapbox, is
we need to be raising a generation of children who
are critical thinkers. I'm I'm teaching in the community college,
and the students i'm teaching right now miss a great
deal because of the pandemic, and as much as teaching
(53:31):
English grammar, I'm also trying to teach critical thinking, which
sounds like exactly what George was saying when he was saying,
you know, google this and then google that and make
the comparisons. As educators, that's something that we can do
to help is to emphasize the importance of critical thinking
(53:51):
and the importance of sources and reliable sources and doing research.
And that's my passion in my actual job, because I
think it could make a difference in our society. People
in this election, particularly, they didn't look for the source
of the information that they just I think George said
(54:13):
it earlier. They listened to what they wanted to hear.
Speaker 11 (54:18):
Well, if you can't filter, well wait a second, hang on,
George if you can't filter out what the sources are
and who the sources are. In other words, even if
you know who they are, but you can't filter out
is there an agenda? What is the agenda? Is it
(54:38):
a political agenda? Is it a religious agenda? Look, I
don't if the voucher is the same public school, private school,
you know, religious school, whatever, I'm a little bit less
irritated by it, if I can put it that way.
Speaker 14 (55:02):
But well, but the problem is vouchers fly in the
face of what public education is really about. Public education
is not a ticket to go to whatever school you'd
like to. It's based on what the taxes are for
that local area, so that school benefits in that way.
But there's a lot of other problems that go along
with these bonds. Because the administrative costs, it's very difficult
(55:24):
to get these programs going. And if you're already in
a low income district, you are going to create double
the problem. There's racial segregation and ethnic segregation, a lot
of time pacts because of these programs. This is a
way more white flights. The other thing is that not
only are their families that are the wealthy ones that
will take their kids out but it's also a two
(55:45):
parent household where there's double the income of the single
family household is more likely to extend themselves and pay
the additional cost to put their kid into a private
school on top of their vouchers, thereby depleting that local area.
So it hurts everyone. If the main thing is that
it does not guarantee any academic success, because all of
this bs about Boucher programs is we'll go go to
(56:05):
a better school and they'll learn more. There is actually
factual data that supports that Boucher program decreased the academic
score of students when it comes to maths specifically, and
to some degree when it comes to English. So it
does not lead to a better education. And if you're
wondering whether it's political or whether it's racial, I will
tell you Eric, it's all of those rolled up into
(56:27):
one word called class. It is a class distinction and
how we keep people out. If you are uneducated, you
can't be in the conversation, you can't show up the matter,
and so it's all about class.
Speaker 11 (56:41):
I was invited to speak at a school, and I
won't identify where it was because then people will know
what school it was. And I walked into the place
and it was clean and spiffy. I mean, it was
(57:04):
really nice. And then I go in to meet the
students because they're in class already, and even though I
still have a few meetings, I want to meet the
students because they're all gossiping about why the chairman of
the Democratic Party is they're visiting them. And these kids
(57:24):
are sharp, They're sharp, just so spot on. So I
learned that this was a charter school that was partially
(57:46):
public funded and partially private funded. And these kids, I
don't mean this the way it's going to sound, but
they were clean, and they were and they were well
put together, and they studied and that was a good thing.
(58:08):
But the question I always end up coming down to,
is there a difference between one part one parent and
two parent households. I settle on the fact that yes,
there's a difference, but that doesn't mean single parents can't
raise kids. Anyway, we're at go ahead, we're down.
Speaker 14 (58:31):
To the life last minute, quick out. So yes, I
was raised in a single parent household, and I totally
agree with you. My point is just that these programs
often are about elitism and the idea that somehow you're
going to gain something greater from them when there's no
proof that it is there any academic success from it. Well,
it certainly does deplete a neighborhood school and cause it
(58:53):
to be underfunded. That school then get closed or kids
get moved around so and they or they get moved
into schools where they're class eyed grow because it's no
longer did.
Speaker 11 (59:01):
All right, all right, all right, I gotta cut you.
This is Eric Bauman, host of The Uncommon Stem Democrat
right here in NBC Radio CACAA. I have been joined
by professors Rona Blaker and George Blake, not related or
formerly married, and it's been great to seeing you. I
(59:22):
don't know who our guests is going to be next
week yet, as I tend to work on these things
based on what the current events are, so we'll see
you next week.
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