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Speaker 11 (06:51):
Call.
Speaker 10 (06:52):
Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen on this make believe day.
It's uh, it's neither war, nor is it cold. It's
neither clear nor is it gray. And uh, as much
as I'd like to say otherwise, Donald Trump is still
the president. Good God, it's it's been it's been a
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wild week of all kinds of chaotic stuff happening. And
let's just start with today. Because they're they're they're got
their fingers and stuff. I say, hey, I mean the
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Trump people, and some of them are really dangerous. They're
messing around with Medicaid, trying to take that apart, messing
around with Social Security, trying to take that apart. I
have a bunch of other proposed changes, and the funny
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thing is none of it necessarily makes any sense. I mean,
none of it necessarily makes any sense. So they're looking
to cut a third. I believe it was of all
discretionary healthcare spending. It's pretty scary when you think about
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how much of America is on Medicaid or in California
as we call it, medical and how much of America
is on Social John what percentage would you say it is?
Speaker 12 (08:47):
What of America's not Social Security? There's seventy Yeah, there's
seventy two and a half million people are getting a
Social Security check.
Speaker 10 (08:59):
Does that does that include that those on disability SSD
or Yeah?
Speaker 12 (09:04):
I think that's the total. I think that's that's the
total number. Yeah, you know, I think it's something like
sixty six or sixty five that are that are retirees,
and then there's s SDI, which is disability, and then
there's you know, survivors Insurance as well, and you know
it's there. So there were three hundred and what, uh
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thirty million or something like that people in America. So yeah,
it's about a fifth of everybody.
Speaker 10 (09:37):
Jesus and the people. What what bugs me is, yeah,
Trump's got a lot of employees who are going to
need social Security.
Speaker 12 (09:52):
They got only there's a lot of voters who are
going to need social Security. But honestly, at this point,
I think it's probably fair to say've got a lot
of ex voters who need their social Security because his
numbers are thinking like like the Titanic. And I don't
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think these polls are wrong. I think they're right the
whole middle. As you know, you've got to control the
middle of the electorate in order to win any big election,
and he is. He did control the middle of the
electorate badly in November, but he's lost that middle of
the electorate now.
Speaker 10 (10:32):
No, Well, what concerns me is he doesn't he doesn't
have anything. I don't put it this, He doesn't have
anything to worry about. Right, he's accountability, right, the problem
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he's unless he tries to make some kind of a
play for excuse me, a third term.
Speaker 12 (11:05):
Yeah, which good luck with that.
Speaker 10 (11:08):
Well, you never know how this snake will try to
do things. But yes, you're right, and then you have
his new buddy Musky, who I think is as dangerous
or maybe more dangerous than Trump is.
Speaker 12 (11:24):
You notice he's been a little quieter though lately, and
we as Social Security works do think that that's meaningful.
There's been all kinds of you know, rumors swirling around,
you know, in his technical capacity as whatever the hell
he's called, some kind of special government employee. He's really
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only got like another month left before. Not that they
care about any kind of laws in this lawless administration,
but you know, this is where existing existing rules and
their own desire might actually come coincide with each other.
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Because probably Trump is happy to get rid of Musk
coming up sometime soon. Here it's been enough.
Speaker 10 (12:17):
Oh yeah, he's gotten underneath Trump's skin for sure, because
he's acting like he's because he's acting like he's the president.
Speaker 12 (12:31):
Right, He's contradicted Trump too many times. People keep calling
him the co president. We all do, and because it's
been true, and probably they're pretty much fixing to get
rid of him anyway, which we can't wait. Obviously, he
will have done a pretty good job of decimating the
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Social Security Administration over the time by the time he's gone,
so on the other hand, we've done a pretty good
job of pushing ACT and a lot of the stuff
that they've tried to do, they have actually backstrap stop.
So nobody out there listening to the show ever thinks
that your voices, your voice is meaningless, that it's not heard,
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and it's not important. It is important.
Speaker 10 (13:20):
Listen, a lot of people listen to this show, and
I get quite a bit of feedback. And people are
worried about their social security, They're worried about them, They're
worried about their medical and their medicare well they should be.
And and the reality is Trump doesn't get it.
Speaker 12 (13:42):
Down, absolutely absolutely not. But they are about to run
into a brick wall, you know, with regard to medicaid
or you know, medical Since we're in the state of California,
you know, we have we have better defenses than people
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do in other states. Medicality powerful program as you know,
and you know this, this this state is one of
the first lives of defense against anything the federal government
tries to do with in this regard. But Trump has
trump into Republicans, you know, And this is where we
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need to get a little bit into the weeds about
medicaid because people kind of need to understand the stuff
that's important with regard to Medicaid.
Speaker 10 (14:38):
Well, let me stop you.
Speaker 12 (14:40):
Let me let me stop you there.
Speaker 10 (14:41):
For just one second, because I want to make sure
people are not conduced. There are two programs. There's Medicare,
which is the federal retirement medical insurance that we all
pay into every month for those of us who are
working and then they're There is Medicaid, which in California
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is medical and that is a joint program between states
and the Feds. So let's say the cost of medical
for this month in California. I don't know, let's just
pick a number, one thousand dollars. California puts up excuse me,
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I am California puts up five hundred, and the Feds
put up five hundred. I mean, it's roughly. But it's
important not to confuse the two programs because.
Speaker 12 (15:40):
It's important to know what Medicaid does, which most people
don't have much of an idea what medicaid does. And
the thing that I would emphasize is someone who works
on senior issues, is that Medicaid pays for well over
fifty percent of long term care in America overall, all
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of America. So you know, it's a little bit different
states by state, but that's a lot of long term care,
and long term care is affecting more and more people
all the time, and more and more families all the time.
So when you're dealing with Republicans and independents who think
that Medicaid is some kind of a program that they
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would equate with welfare, they got another guest coming and
they have a big epiphany when you tell them at
their grandmother's nursing home is most likely almost two thirds
being paid by Medicaid no matter where in America. They are, right,
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big deal. All of a sudden, it becomes like, oh, really, well,
I didn't know that. I thought Medicaid was something else completely.
You know, that had to do with people I don't
really care about as a Republican or an independent or something.
You know. No, it's it's you. It's your family. It's
your grandmother, it's your aunt, it's you, it's depending on
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your age, you know, it's no one can afford one
hundred thousand dollars a year. No family can afford one
hundred thousand dollars a year, year after year, for for
a nursing home.
Speaker 10 (17:24):
Right, And look, nursing home care is both important, but
it's very expensive.
Speaker 12 (17:31):
It's expensive, that's the whole point. And there's this epiphany.
Wait a second, this effects me, right, I spent I.
Speaker 10 (17:40):
Don't know, if it was close to three years screening
patients to go into various forms of long term care,
I would do history and physical exams on them, not
including nursing homes, okay, because they didn't do nursing homes.
And you know, when you realize how much this stuff costs.
Speaker 12 (18:06):
Unbelievable amounts. And Medicaid pays for home care a lot
of home care as well, and some portions of assisted living,
some portions, yes, depending also again depending on what state
you're in. And remember also that I think it's twelve
states still have not taken the Medicaid expansion money from
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the Affordable Care Act, which is absolutely criminal. They're just
you know, the legislatures and governors of those states are
just shafting their own constituents. Well, I want to be
federal money that's been offered to them. It's insane. I
want to just say this.
Speaker 10 (18:48):
I think, I mean, with all due respect, I think
that the Trump people are mean, right, they do no
I mean that, seriously, they do a lot of things
that hurt other people, especially SoRs and kids.
Speaker 12 (19:05):
Right, I was only lamping about the comment about your
your preamble with all due respect, because I'm not quite
sure what respect is due. I think you're right about that. Seriously, folks,
I can't think of any respect that's too. I mean,
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this is awful, This stuff is awful. But they've also
painted themselves into a corner, which which is a wee
a set of weeds that I think it's worth us
us trying to, uh, you know, make our way through
with regard to reconciliation and what that's about, and why
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they're going after medicaid and that kind of stuff. People
are really confused about this, and it is confusing, but
it's also important to understand, uh, the exact corner that
they painted themselves, that the Republican Party has painted itself
into and why so can we go there for a minute.
Speaker 10 (20:08):
Yeah, no, I agree with you.
Speaker 12 (20:11):
So the thing that needs to be understood is that reconciliation,
which is the way in which a political party can
try to legislate something avoiding the filibuster in the Senate.
Reconciliation can only bills can only be passed under reconciliation
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when they're part of a budget, of the budgetary process,
when they have budgetary implications. And right now this Republican
Party is trying to get its tax cuts for the
richest people in America passed extended under reconciliation, and it
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has to be eight for So this is a problem
that they have reconciliation. You actually have to pay for
the things you can't just you can't just add to
the deficits. And they are running into this great, big problem,
which is why they have to cut something, something big.
They can't cut Social Security. It can't be done. They
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won't be able to do it. It requires security is
a whole separate set of issues. They can attack the
Social Security Administration, but they kind of cut. So what
they're going after is Medicaid and they're trying to find
something like eight hundred and eighty billion dollars almost a
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trillion dollars worth of cuts, which is almost all of Medicaid.
So it's completely impossible, but they just don't know what
else to do. So this is why you keep hearing
about these Medicaid cuts. And so far, even though been
a series of votes, a couple of votes. They're all
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just blueprint votes. They're all just generic like, oh, yes,
this is what we're going to try to do, this
is what we're going to do. Wait for the details.
Very soon. The details are going to come, and the
details are going to be so ugly that they're probably
not going to be able to agree on what they're
going to cut.
Speaker 10 (22:25):
Well, which is which, which is? Which is why? Nine
Republican I think it was nine. Is either seven or nine,
Like it's eleven.
Speaker 12 (22:34):
I know what you're about to say.
Speaker 10 (22:35):
Oh, so it went okay, so one not have said
they won't.
Speaker 12 (22:40):
They won't.
Speaker 10 (22:42):
I'm sorry the letter. Yeah, they they have said they
will not vote for the president's great, big, beautiful bill
that he's trying to push. But as long as there's
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any I think it was medicaid cuts. Yeah, medicaid cuts,
basically medicaid cuts.
Speaker 12 (23:11):
It's eleven. I counted eleven Republicans. I can read them
off to you who signed on to this letter. David Valdeo,
who familiar with from California, twenty two price no right right, yeah, Bakersfield,
bakers part of Bakersfield, part of Bakersfield, and a lot
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of Delano, a lot of the surrounding areas. There actually
a very democratic district if people would just show up.
Don Bacon from Nebraska, Jeff ben Drew from New Jersey.
Rob Bresnahan from Pennsylvania who beat Matt Cartwright, one of
our great social security champions. A tragedy there. Juan Ciscomani
Arizona six, which is Tucston. Jan Kiggins from Virginia, Young
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Tim from California forty another vulnerable republic in Orange.
Speaker 10 (24:01):
Good, good riddance.
Speaker 12 (24:03):
Good writtance. Right, but she's you know, she's tough, as
is Valadeo. They're slick. Young Kim shows up all over
the place over the district. People think she's actually doing
any doing something when she's largely voting against their own
best interests. Rob Whitman in Virginia. Nicole malay Otakis on
Staten Island in New York. Nick Laloda on Long Island
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in New York. Andrew Garbarino also in Nassau County on
Long Island. Melodas were part of Suffolk, I think, and
Jeff heard in Colorado three and I think those are eleven.
And they all sign on to this letter. And as
you know, Eric. They can only afford they can only
lose like three votes, right, So how they going to
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pass this thing if those eleven are actually telling the truth?
To say, think of the fact that the biggest liar,
the liar in chief, Donald J. Trump, has said multiple times,
over and over and over again, that he is not
going to sign anything that cuts such security, Medicare or medicare.
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So how are they going to do this.
Speaker 10 (25:15):
I don't think he gives a crap about any of it,
and and that's made worse by the fact that he's
he can't face reelection.
Speaker 12 (25:29):
Is the late doctor. No, I agree with all of that.
And since he really is the liar in chief, and
there's nothing could be clearer than that, rarely does he
say anything that's true at all, Why should we believe
him when he says he's not going to cut some security,
Medicare or Medicaid, There's.
Speaker 10 (25:45):
No reason be right, all right, I'm going to jump
ahead briefly to another topic. We can come back to
this one later, because this is important. What's what's going
what's going on with Trump and his people is they're
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ignoring the Supreme Court, and they're ignoring the lower courts,
including the appeals courts. That's what we see playing out
in the case of the guy who was sent to
El Salvador. So rather than just violate the Supreme Court order,
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Trump called in the president of El Salador, who's our
patsy anyway, He's.
Speaker 12 (26:36):
The coolest, He's the world's coolest dictator. Come on, Yeah, well,
I didn't really know there was did you.
Speaker 10 (26:49):
No? No, I didn't either. Nobody told me.
Speaker 12 (26:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (26:55):
I'd like to send Popeye over to visit him. Anyway, long,
long story, long story. Short with this is they're just
essentially ignoring these courts and and then when the courts
make an order ignore that too.
Speaker 12 (27:22):
And not going too well though so far. Really, I
mean this, look, this is the big one. I mean,
this is this is the confrontation to come. It's just
about here. Judge Boseburg, you know, who's been pretty good
so far. Issued in a ruling today, you know, that's
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that's pretty much you guys are in probable cause that
you're in contempt. Uh, that's going to set up this
is a constitutional crisis that's pretty much upon us. Yeah,
as to whether the executive branch can ignore the rulings
of the judicial branch, yeah.
Speaker 10 (28:06):
And you know, so they make that they make the
arguments that they're they make the argument that it's separation
of houses.
Speaker 12 (28:18):
You know, they're not making much of any argument that
makes any sense. I mean, that's very cues and all that.
But this has never happened before. And the Supreme Court
has spoken, albeit a little bit, you know, mealy mouth
in a meily mouth fashion. Yeah, I was gonna say, mushi, yeah, mushi,
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right right, But you know, it's pretty clear they certainly
this administration is making no attempt to either facilitate, which
is the word that the Supreme Good Use settled on,
or effectuate the return of this young man, who, by
the way they have this administration is offered absolutely no
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evidence that this fella gave one thing wrong. All right,
all right, let me every day and say, well, he's
a member of a gang.
Speaker 10 (29:11):
All right, let me let me stop you there. This
is Eric Follin, host of the Uncommon Sense Democrat right
here at NBC Radio. Casey ay, and I'm joined by
John Bowser Baumann from Social Security Works. Now back and
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Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. Miss Eric found the post
of the uncommon Sense Democrat writer on NBC Radio case EAA.
I'm joined today by John Bowser Baumann, who is the
president of the Social Security Works Pack. And uh, we've
been dug in deep into a couple of topics. We're
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going to try to get through all of our topics
for today, but I'm beginning to doubt it.
Speaker 12 (33:18):
We're got to think to the important ones. So, yeah,
it could be more important than than that. Than that
this administration is completely ignoring a series of court orders,
including a Supreme Court decision.
Speaker 10 (33:35):
Well how about this one deporting US citizens who have
convictions abroad. Think about that? That means that means if
you if you uh, I don't know. Let's just say
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you had a misdemeanor and and you know you've got
up somebody's got into somebody's hair. Under this theory that
they're implementing, you could be put out of the country.
Speaker 12 (34:17):
Right into a torture chamber in El Salvador because you
and the world's coolest dictator by self proclaimed get along
really well. So you know, Donnie, Donnie can just ship you,
ship you over there to the torture chamber. And that's
what they've done to Gilmark, you know, with no evidence
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that this guy has done anything wrong.
Speaker 10 (34:42):
No, but by the way, they don't even have evidence
that he belongs to it's a fifty three fifty one
whatever the gang is.
Speaker 12 (34:51):
No, they have no evidence. They presented no evidence. They
were asked to present evidence in the court. They came
up with nothing. In fact, they said it was a mistake. However,
so they told the judge it was a mistake. But
every day they come out and say, wholla, you know,
he's a member of this this very mesis Wayland gang.
(35:12):
You know the world's coolest dictators sat there in the
Oval office talk about Kutzpah sat there in the Oval
office and talked about talked about how important it was
it was to to make sure that terrorists aren't don't
menace the United States of America. This guy from El
(35:32):
Salvador is talking about terrorists menacing the United States of America.
There's no evidence whatsoever that this guy's a terrorists or
even a gang member, right right, if there is nobody nobody,
I'm sorry, but you know panch so called Attorney General,
Pam Bondi, you know who it feels like spends more
(35:56):
of her time at the beauty parlor, you know, getting
getting her hair bleed, then should spend time reading the
Constitution of the United States or any other text of
law for just sitting there saying, well, the guys, the
guys in the gang that ain't good enough in course
(36:16):
evidence where the right right?
Speaker 10 (36:20):
And now they're suing. I believe it's the state of Maine.
It's going after the state of Maine because it declines
to follow their orders on trans women right and what
they do don't get to do, where they get to
play sports and whatnot. Oh, look, I understand that that
(36:42):
is controversial for many people. I mean, I can tell
you myself, and I've known a lot of trans people.
Speaker 13 (36:56):
And.
Speaker 10 (37:02):
But duaise, duaise handling, it's terrible.
Speaker 12 (37:15):
Well, in this case, I'm personally friendly with two different
people who are relevant in this exact discussion, and let
me just tell you quickly who they are. I'm personally
friendly with Martina and Averett Tolova, who's been an excellent
progressive on virtually every issue. And I became friendly with her,
(37:37):
you know, on Zoom during she lives in Florida and
in previous elections. I can tell you there is nobody better.
I had her present to the Florida Seniors Council that
we put together as part of the DNC with regard
to her having grown up in a in a country
(38:00):
living under a dictator in what was formerly Czechoslovakia. And
I'm telling you, there is nobody better to present on
what it's like to live in a country under a dictator,
which we're best approaching here in America than Martina and
Nefritalova on this issue. And she's one of the best
female athletes in the history of the world. You know,
(38:20):
former number one tennis player, and you know, one of
the best that there ever was. She feels strongly that
it is a problem for what she refers to as
biological males to compete in women's sports, especially on any level,
(38:40):
including a scholastic level. Okay, I'm also personally friendly with
Governor Janets Mills of Maine, who was the woman who
I couldn't have been more proud of anyone, and especially
of her because she's somebody I know when she stood
up to Donald Trump right to his face and he said,
I'm denying your federal money because you won't listen to
(39:02):
me on this issue, and she said, I follow the law,
you know, And what you said, Eric is is what's
exactly right. This is a matter for the law of
the state of Maine. This is not something This is
not something that Donald Trump just can issue an edict
like he loves to do, and it goes for everybody everywhere,
(39:22):
because he said, so, you know this, this is a
matter that needs to be decided in in in states
under the law of those states. And that's where we're at.
Speaker 10 (39:35):
Yeah, well, I'll tell you it stinks.
Speaker 12 (39:42):
It's an issue, but let's decide it, like you know,
like a society that is that is actually lives under
the rule of law, not a society that lives under
the rule of a of a of a dumb ass dictator.
Speaker 10 (39:58):
I remember, many, many years ago, my mother and I
were having a conversation about transgender people. I was probably
I don't know, I was probably in my early twenties,
and we were talking about trans people and I said
(40:19):
to my mother, but I don't think I've ever met one.
And my mother said, do you remember my friends Jay
and Brenda? And I said, of course. My mother said
Jay was trans right, And I had no idea. I
(40:44):
had no idea.
Speaker 12 (40:46):
Well related subject your mother and my sister in law
right now, I would be very curious where she was.
She's still with us today. You know what her opinion
was this issue. She she was for your for your listeners,
one heck of an athlete, and when she h entirely
(41:10):
irrelevant in a way, but totally relevant in another way.
I would go to ally Pine Park and Queens with
your father and your mother, and I was I was
ten years younger than both of them, and you know,
so let's say I was ten and they were twenty,
and we would have a catch. And I remember vividly
(41:33):
saying to your father, Richard, can you please throw the
ball to me, because when Gail throws frozen to be
my hand hurt. I can't. She throws it too hard
in my hands. Well, and these were the old days
when people would say somebody like throws, there was an
expression like you throws like a girl, you know, stated
(41:58):
an expression anyway, Well, your brother did not throw anything
like that. That supposed throws like a girl. She threw.
She threw like a major league pitcher. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (42:09):
Well, my mother, we are getting too deep in this.
My mother met what's her name to tennis player but Helva,
I don't know, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 12 (42:22):
That was Chris evert uh pick a.
Speaker 10 (42:25):
Tennis player first, first one who had surgery, Billy King
rich No, no, you're missing, doesn't matter. I don't know
what you're driving at. Renee Richards was the was the
transgender tennis player. This is a real point on this topic.
Remember when Billy Jean King, you know, played played against
(42:48):
the man yep, in that great big match when when
we were all much.
Speaker 12 (42:53):
Younger, yep. You know. It's important to note she did
not play against Steve Smith or Arthur Ashe, you know,
the best male tennis players. Because there was no question
about it that she was would lose against them. She
played against Bobby Riggs and over the hill, you know,
(43:13):
not not he was a tennis pro, but not one
of the best male tennis players in the in the world.
You know there were biological differences there are.
Speaker 10 (43:24):
Yeah, well, in any case, just move on. My mother.
My mother met this uh trans tennis player.
Speaker 12 (43:36):
You know, she Renee Richards. That was doctor Renee Richards,
who was Richard Raskin, who was an ophthalmologist. I think
I think who became Renee Richards and was trans.
Speaker 10 (43:54):
Regardless, I don't want to waste any more time on this.
I just want to say it was kind of interesting
because that triggered my mother's interest because, as you well know,
my mother was a very masculine woman and a terrific athlete.
Speaker 12 (44:07):
Terrific, unbelievable, you know. So that's why it would be
interested in her in her opinion, which you know might
be like Martinez's opinion where it really comes down to
you know, look, this issue skated by in those old
days in professional sports largely because Richard Raskin, who became
(44:32):
Renee Richards, wasn't really good enough to beat the best
female tennis players. She was good enough to play pro,
but not good enough to to really win tournaments.
Speaker 10 (44:49):
Yeah, I'll try to remember that that player's name.
Speaker 12 (44:54):
Let's move on.
Speaker 10 (44:56):
So RFK had a an emergence the press conference today,
And I say it that way because these things are
well planned, in advanced and people are notified, and you know,
and he started in on the vaccines. Yeah, and and
(45:24):
you realize he may be now saying, well, if you
if you're you know, if you're, if it's time for
you to take the measles vaccine, you should do it.
You don't have to do it, but you should do it.
And I guess that's that's a step above or two steps.
Speaker 12 (45:45):
Above where he was, yeah, kind of sort of. Yeah,
I mean it's fair to say where he was not
where public health, but not a step above where public
health is in for our entire lifetimes, which basically eradicated this,
this miserable disease.
Speaker 10 (46:09):
Six hundred cases in Texas.
Speaker 12 (46:12):
Right now, right right, that's the result of people not
not being vaccinated. Yeah, and you knows, as you know,
once again, thinking inside our family, you know, your aunt,
my wife, you know, we are eagerly awaiting the results
(46:34):
of our FK Junior's new study that he has begun,
that he says by the fall he's going to announce
what causes audis because he is going to somehow know
better than every study that has been ever done, including
the one that he keeps citing that has been debunked
(46:54):
over and over and over again because it was completely
fraudulent that said that vaccines caused autism. So now he's
going to revisit that in some half assed manner and
come up with some finding in the fall, which I'm
sure we'll be a finding that is completely scientifically wrong.
(47:14):
But you know, we're we're in deep doo doo with
this stuff.
Speaker 10 (47:17):
Yeah, all right, So his press conference this morning was
entirely unimpressive. He's pulling the same pushing the same buttons
he has been all along.
Speaker 12 (47:35):
Yeah, I personally, I think, you know, as somebody who
was who for fifty five years, you know, made a
living with my voice, I think you should have a
press conference about what's wrong with his voice. I really
would like to know that. Like he can't even listen
to this guy, never minding the content, just the just
(47:56):
the execution is so off.
Speaker 10 (48:02):
Well, and he's married to Ryl Hines, which somehow stuns me.
Speaker 12 (48:09):
Me too, and you know it hurts curby your enthusiasm,
which was otherwise very funny. Yeah, I have a big
problem with this.
Speaker 10 (48:21):
Yeah, well but I am.
Speaker 12 (48:24):
Let's talk about the biggest problem of all with regard
to not the biggest problem of all, but the genesis
of the problem here, because this really needs to be said,
which is that the genesis of the problem is that
the is that the despicable human being in the White
(48:45):
House gave this guy this job for one reason and
one reason only. The guy is completely unqualified to be
HHS secretary. He only has this job because he Donald
Trump is transactional and RFK Junior gave Trump his votes
(49:09):
by when he dropped out of the presidential race period.
So this is Donald Trump going like he does with
everything else, like, oh, yeah, this guy was good to me,
you know he was. He gave me something that I wanted.
So yeah, here, here you become AKHS secretary. Disgusting.
Speaker 10 (49:27):
Yeah, all right. So Trump's been playing this game with
the tariffs. One day he's talking about, you know, he's
raising tariff's one hundred and forty five percent, and then
the next day he's not gonna raise him one hundred
(49:50):
and forty five percent. He's gonna pause it on certain items.
And and so in my notes or in our run
of show, I wrote, Trump and the tariffs, can or
should he recover?
Speaker 12 (50:13):
It?
Speaker 10 (50:13):
Has damaged it has damaged his reputation so much. And
I mean personally, I don't care about his reputation, right,
couldn't care less about it.
Speaker 12 (50:33):
Well, for better or worse. You know, this is still
the issue out of all the issues we've discussed this hour,
this is probably the issue that's going to end up
doing this administration in the quickest. I don't disagree with
you that you know this question as to what's going
to do Trump in because he's really not accountable to anybody.
(50:54):
You know, he doesn't have to run again, but you
know a lot of these people in Republican world have
to run again, and even people within his cabinet have
to have some kind of career after this. And the economy,
it always is the economy stupid, that's true. And this one,
this one, you know, Bed chair Jerome Powell came out
(51:17):
this morning and said very clearly that this ain't looking good.
This they' looking good for the economy we're going in
and we're going to go into a period of high
inflation as a result of the tariff. And that was
the opposite of what Trump ran on if you remember correctly,
he said he was gonna he was going to fix
(51:38):
inflation on day one. He also said he was only
going to be a dictator on day one, and we
see that he intends to be a dictator the entire time.
Speaker 10 (51:47):
Okay, wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait,
I got to explain something to you. But now, on
day one, God created heavens and earth. Okay, but how
could he have done how could he have done?
Speaker 5 (52:05):
No?
Speaker 10 (52:05):
No, no, how could he have done that in one day?
What was that one day?
Speaker 12 (52:12):
What was like the day that Mike Johnson, you know,
or like i'd like to call him, Trump's little Johnson created. Now, again,
there's too much of the weeds for this show, but
you know that that Mike Johnson declared, like the entire
rest of the of the legislative session to be one day,
because that way he could avoid is an issue that
(52:33):
he can avoid legislatively. The day is just a valuable concept, Derek.
You know, God's day was a lot different from Trump's Day.
Speaker 10 (52:46):
Yeah, I think God's Day was a lot longer Number one,
a lot longer, a lot better, well until until somebody
decided they were going to take a fight out of
that apple.
Speaker 12 (53:01):
Oh you know, well, yeah, that's not on the agenda.
Let's not go to that topic. That was too hard.
Speaker 10 (53:10):
Anyway. So the question is though, as you know, I
was discussing this with a couple of people the other
day and I said, do you care if Trump recovers?
And one of them said, you know, no, I don't care,
or do I care, But the other one said, yes,
(53:32):
I care because he's America.
Speaker 12 (53:36):
Yeah, I think it's a real problem. Our ally hate us,
the whole world hates us. The economy, which was really
in very good shape, you know, the Economist magazine said
it best, you know, the envy of the world at
the end of the Biden administration, and now look look
what we've got. And you know, a lot of people,
(53:58):
a lot of people really are stuck and going to
suffer even more through all of this. You know, I've
been compiling a set of videos, you know, for hearing
that we had that hot team Jefferies, you know, held
last week in Steering and Policy of people who who
(54:18):
whose testimony is that if Social Security gets cut, they
won't be able to pay their rent, They're going to
have to cut their meds in half. In one case,
a woman said she's going to be homeless. Uh, you know,
this is serious stuff. And I appreciate both viewpoints that
you of your friends that you just quoted, because no,
(54:43):
I don't care what happens to Trump. To me is
a scourge. But our country's going down the tubes here.
We can't really afford almost four more years of going
down the tubes in this way. And China's lurking, making
looking better and better to a lot of countries all
(55:05):
around the world. This is this is really problematic. For
this is not making America grade again. It's making China
grade again. And we've got and and.
Speaker 10 (55:16):
Jes and Finn. It's a lot smarter than Trump and he.
While Trump has got our tariffs on them up to
one hundred and forty, Jess and Finn's got it one hundred, he's.
Speaker 12 (55:36):
Not moving it right. And he's also kind of unaccountable
in a way. But like you say, to his to
his own population, but he has really fallen into into
good times here for him because Trump, like you say,
is he is so much smarter than Trump that he's
(55:59):
just a to revel in what Trump is doing completely
until you know all of this, the entire financial crisis
from from the our economy being the envy of the world,
was created by one person, Donald Trump, period, and Jiji
(56:22):
Ping is the beneficiary of his creation.
Speaker 10 (56:27):
Sad Yeah, yep, Well, I personally don't care if he
recovers and his administration recovers. I don't want our country
to go slamming.
Speaker 12 (56:44):
Down, right, and so many people suffering, so many people
suffering from it.
Speaker 10 (56:50):
You know, I listen, I listen, I listened, I listened there.
I listened to Congressman Raskin earlier today. And while I
don't know that he's presidential material, he is one of
the smartest, most coherent men I've ever encountered.
Speaker 12 (57:12):
Absolutely, you know a bad way. You know, you were
talking about you were talking about the the the apple,
the eaton. I mean, if we're going to talk about Adam,
let's talk about Adam Shipp's part two.
Speaker 10 (57:30):
Unquestionably so.
Speaker 12 (57:34):
And by the way, let me say one quick thing,
because I know we're coming to the end of our hour,
but one quick thing about Jamie Raskin. Let's say, and
Adam Ship, It's like, why is Jamie Raskin not presidential material?
You know, we're silly. Jamie Raskin should be presidential material,
you know. Yes, Jamie Raskin doesn't present, you know, in
(57:56):
the classic way that you might think of somebody as
being quote Eidential, whatever the heck that means.
Speaker 8 (58:02):
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Speaker 10 (58:03):
But still he still looks exhausted from his cancer.
Speaker 12 (58:07):
Right, He's right, right, And I think it may be
maybe a bigger job than he wants to take on,
but maybe not. Ye'll see. Look, let's see, let's let's
try to get the country through. As I've said over
and over again, but I'll stay one more time on
this show. Donald Trump has eighteen months from January twentieth
(58:28):
in which he's trying to destroy the institutions of the
United States of America. I do not think he's going
to be able to destroy elections. We are going to
destroy the Republican Party in these midterms, and then it's
a matter of getting ourselves to twenty twenty eighth, when
it's going to be a bruising but interesting Democratic primary
with a lot of talent out there.
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Speaker 10 (06:52):
Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen on this make believe day.
It's uh, it's neither war, nor is it cold. It's
neither clear nor is it gray. And uh, as much
as I'd like to say otherwise, Donald Trump is still
the president. Good God, it's it's been it's been a
(07:18):
wild week of all kinds of chaotic stuff happening. And
let's just start with today. Because they're they're they're got
their fingers and stuff. I say, hey, I mean the
(07:41):
Trump people, and some of them are really dangerous. They're
messing around with Medicaid, trying to take that apart, messing
around with Social Security, trying to take that apart. I
have a bunch of other proposed changes, and the funny
(08:05):
thing is none of it necessarily makes any sense. I mean,
none of it necessarily makes any sense. So they're looking
to cut a third. I believe it was of all
discretionary healthcare spending. It's pretty scary when you think about
(08:29):
how much of America is on Medicaid or in California
as we call it, medical and how much of America
is on Social John what percentage would you say it is?
Speaker 12 (08:47):
What of America's not Social Security? There's seventy Yeah, there's
seventy two and a half million people are getting a
Social Security check.
Speaker 10 (08:59):
Does that does that include that those on disability SSD
or Yeah?
Speaker 12 (09:04):
I think that's the total. I think that's that's the
total number. Yeah, you know, I think it's something like
sixty six or sixty five that are that are retirees,
and then there's s SDI, which is disability, and then
there's you know, survivors Insurance as well, and you know
it's there. So there were three hundred and what, uh
(09:28):
thirty million or something like that people in America. So yeah,
it's about a fifth of everybody.
Speaker 10 (09:37):
Jesus and the people. What what bugs me is, yeah,
Trump's got a lot of employees who are going to
need social Security.
Speaker 12 (09:52):
They got only there's a lot of voters who are
going to need social Security. But honestly, at this point,
I think it's probably fair to say've got a lot
of ex voters who need their social Security because his
numbers are thinking like like the Titanic. And I don't
(10:13):
think these polls are wrong. I think they're right the
whole middle. As you know, you've got to control the
middle of the electorate in order to win any big election,
and he is. He did control the middle of the
electorate badly in November, but he's lost that middle of
the electorate now.
Speaker 10 (10:32):
No, Well, what concerns me is he doesn't he doesn't
have anything. I don't put it this, He doesn't have
anything to worry about. Right, he's accountability, right, the problem
(10:53):
he's unless he tries to make some kind of a
play for excuse me, a third term.
Speaker 12 (11:05):
Yeah, which good luck with that.
Speaker 10 (11:08):
Well, you never know how this snake will try to
do things. But yes, you're right, and then you have
his new buddy Musky, who I think is as dangerous
or maybe more dangerous than Trump is.
Speaker 12 (11:24):
You notice he's been a little quieter though lately, and
we as Social Security works do think that that's meaningful.
There's been all kinds of you know, rumors swirling around,
you know, in his technical capacity as whatever the hell
he's called, some kind of special government employee. He's really
(11:46):
only got like another month left before. Not that they
care about any kind of laws in this lawless administration,
but you know, this is where existing existing rules and
their own desire might actually come coincide with each other.
(12:09):
Because probably Trump is happy to get rid of Musk
coming up sometime soon. Here it's been enough.
Speaker 10 (12:17):
Oh yeah, he's gotten underneath Trump's skin for sure, because
he's acting like he's because he's acting like he's the president.
Speaker 12 (12:31):
Right, He's contradicted Trump too many times. People keep calling
him the co president. We all do, and because it's
been true, and probably they're pretty much fixing to get
rid of him anyway, which we can't wait. Obviously, he
will have done a pretty good job of decimating the
(12:52):
Social Security Administration over the time by the time he's gone,
so on the other hand, we've done a pretty good
job of pushing ACT and a lot of the stuff
that they've tried to do, they have actually backstrap stop.
So nobody out there listening to the show ever thinks
that your voices, your voice is meaningless, that it's not heard,
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and it's not important. It is important.
Speaker 10 (13:20):
Listen, a lot of people listen to this show, and
I get quite a bit of feedback. And people are
worried about their social security, They're worried about them, They're
worried about their medical and their medicare well they should be.
And and the reality is Trump doesn't get it.
Speaker 12 (13:42):
Down, absolutely absolutely not. But they are about to run
into a brick wall, you know, with regard to medicaid
or you know, medical Since we're in the state of California,
you know, we have we have better defenses than people
(14:03):
do in other states. Medicality powerful program as you know,
and you know this, this this state is one of
the first lives of defense against anything the federal government
tries to do with in this regard. But Trump has
trump into Republicans, you know, And this is where we
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need to get a little bit into the weeds about
medicaid because people kind of need to understand the stuff
that's important with regard to Medicaid.
Speaker 10 (14:38):
Well, let me stop you.
Speaker 12 (14:40):
Let me let me stop you there.
Speaker 10 (14:41):
For just one second, because I want to make sure
people are not conduced. There are two programs. There's Medicare,
which is the federal retirement medical insurance that we all
pay into every month for those of us who are
working and then they're There is Medicaid, which in California
(15:05):
is medical and that is a joint program between states
and the Feds. So let's say the cost of medical
for this month in California. I don't know, let's just
pick a number, one thousand dollars. California puts up excuse me,
(15:25):
I am California puts up five hundred, and the Feds
put up five hundred. I mean, it's roughly. But it's
important not to confuse the two programs because.
Speaker 12 (15:40):
It's important to know what Medicaid does, which most people
don't have much of an idea what medicaid does. And
the thing that I would emphasize is someone who works
on senior issues, is that Medicaid pays for well over
fifty percent of long term care in America overall, all
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of America. So you know, it's a little bit different
states by state, but that's a lot of long term care,
and long term care is affecting more and more people
all the time, and more and more families all the time.
So when you're dealing with Republicans and independents who think
that Medicaid is some kind of a program that they
(16:26):
would equate with welfare, they got another guest coming and
they have a big epiphany when you tell them at
their grandmother's nursing home is most likely almost two thirds
being paid by Medicaid no matter where in America. They are, right,
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big deal. All of a sudden, it becomes like, oh, really, well,
I didn't know that. I thought Medicaid was something else completely.
You know, that had to do with people I don't
really care about as a Republican or an independent or something.
You know. No, it's it's you. It's your family. It's
your grandmother, it's your aunt, it's you, it's depending on
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your age, you know, it's no one can afford one
hundred thousand dollars a year. No family can afford one
hundred thousand dollars a year, year after year, for for
a nursing home.
Speaker 10 (17:24):
Right, And look, nursing home care is both important, but
it's very expensive.
Speaker 12 (17:31):
It's expensive, that's the whole point. And there's this epiphany.
Wait a second, this effects me, right, I spent I.
Speaker 10 (17:40):
Don't know, if it was close to three years screening
patients to go into various forms of long term care,
I would do history and physical exams on them, not
including nursing homes, okay, because they didn't do nursing homes.
And you know, when you realize how much this stuff costs.
Speaker 12 (18:06):
Unbelievable amounts. And Medicaid pays for home care a lot
of home care as well, and some portions of assisted living,
some portions, yes, depending also again depending on what state
you're in. And remember also that I think it's twelve
states still have not taken the Medicaid expansion money from
(18:29):
the Affordable Care Act, which is absolutely criminal. They're just
you know, the legislatures and governors of those states are
just shafting their own constituents. Well, I want to be
federal money that's been offered to them. It's insane. I
want to just say this.
Speaker 10 (18:48):
I think, I mean, with all due respect, I think
that the Trump people are mean, right, they do no
I mean that, seriously, they do a lot of things
that hurt other people, especially SoRs and kids.
Speaker 12 (19:05):
Right, I was only lamping about the comment about your
your preamble with all due respect, because I'm not quite
sure what respect is due. I think you're right about that. Seriously, folks,
I can't think of any respect that's too. I mean,
(19:25):
this is awful, This stuff is awful. But they've also
painted themselves into a corner, which which is a wee
a set of weeds that I think it's worth us
us trying to, uh, you know, make our way through
with regard to reconciliation and what that's about, and why
(19:46):
they're going after medicaid and that kind of stuff. People
are really confused about this, and it is confusing, but
it's also important to understand, uh, the exact corner that
they painted themselves, that the Republican Party has painted itself
into and why so can we go there for a minute.
Speaker 10 (20:08):
Yeah, no, I agree with you.
Speaker 12 (20:11):
So the thing that needs to be understood is that reconciliation,
which is the way in which a political party can
try to legislate something avoiding the filibuster in the Senate.
Reconciliation can only bills can only be passed under reconciliation
(20:38):
when they're part of a budget, of the budgetary process,
when they have budgetary implications. And right now this Republican
Party is trying to get its tax cuts for the
richest people in America passed extended under reconciliation, and it
(20:59):
has to be eight for So this is a problem
that they have reconciliation. You actually have to pay for
the things you can't just you can't just add to
the deficits. And they are running into this great, big problem,
which is why they have to cut something, something big.
They can't cut Social Security. It can't be done. They
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won't be able to do it. It requires security is
a whole separate set of issues. They can attack the
Social Security Administration, but they kind of cut. So what
they're going after is Medicaid and they're trying to find
something like eight hundred and eighty billion dollars almost a
(21:43):
trillion dollars worth of cuts, which is almost all of Medicaid.
So it's completely impossible, but they just don't know what
else to do. So this is why you keep hearing
about these Medicaid cuts. And so far, even though been
a series of votes, a couple of votes. They're all
(22:03):
just blueprint votes. They're all just generic like, oh, yes,
this is what we're going to try to do, this
is what we're going to do. Wait for the details.
Very soon. The details are going to come, and the
details are going to be so ugly that they're probably
not going to be able to agree on what they're
going to cut.
Speaker 10 (22:25):
Well, which is which, which is? Which is why? Nine
Republican I think it was nine. Is either seven or nine,
Like it's eleven.
Speaker 12 (22:34):
I know what you're about to say.
Speaker 10 (22:35):
Oh, so it went okay, so one not have said
they won't.
Speaker 12 (22:40):
They won't.
Speaker 10 (22:42):
I'm sorry the letter. Yeah, they they have said they
will not vote for the president's great, big, beautiful bill
that he's trying to push. But as long as there's
(23:05):
any I think it was medicaid cuts. Yeah, medicaid cuts,
basically medicaid cuts.
Speaker 12 (23:11):
It's eleven. I counted eleven Republicans. I can read them
off to you who signed on to this letter. David Valdeo,
who familiar with from California, twenty two price no right right, yeah, Bakersfield,
bakers part of Bakersfield, part of Bakersfield, and a lot
(23:32):
of Delano, a lot of the surrounding areas. There actually
a very democratic district if people would just show up.
Don Bacon from Nebraska, Jeff ben Drew from New Jersey.
Rob Bresnahan from Pennsylvania who beat Matt Cartwright, one of
our great social security champions. A tragedy there. Juan Ciscomani
Arizona six, which is Tucston. Jan Kiggins from Virginia, Young
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Tim from California forty another vulnerable republic in Orange.
Speaker 10 (24:01):
Good, good riddance.
Speaker 12 (24:03):
Good writtance. Right, but she's you know, she's tough, as
is Valadeo. They're slick. Young Kim shows up all over
the place over the district. People think she's actually doing
any doing something when she's largely voting against their own
best interests. Rob Whitman in Virginia. Nicole malay Otakis on
Staten Island in New York. Nick Laloda on Long Island
(24:26):
in New York. Andrew Garbarino also in Nassau County on
Long Island. Melodas were part of Suffolk, I think, and
Jeff heard in Colorado three and I think those are eleven.
And they all sign on to this letter. And as
you know, Eric. They can only afford they can only
lose like three votes, right, So how they going to
(24:50):
pass this thing if those eleven are actually telling the truth?
To say, think of the fact that the biggest liar,
the liar in chief, Donald J. Trump, has said multiple times,
over and over and over again, that he is not
going to sign anything that cuts such security, Medicare or medicare.
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So how are they going to do this.
Speaker 10 (25:15):
I don't think he gives a crap about any of it,
and and that's made worse by the fact that he's
he can't face reelection.
Speaker 12 (25:29):
Is the late doctor. No, I agree with all of that.
And since he really is the liar in chief, and
there's nothing could be clearer than that, rarely does he
say anything that's true at all, Why should we believe
him when he says he's not going to cut some security,
Medicare or Medicaid, There's.
Speaker 10 (25:45):
No reason be right, all right, I'm going to jump
ahead briefly to another topic. We can come back to
this one later, because this is important. What's what's going
what's going on with Trump and his people is they're
(26:08):
ignoring the Supreme Court, and they're ignoring the lower courts,
including the appeals courts. That's what we see playing out
in the case of the guy who was sent to
El Salvador. So rather than just violate the Supreme Court order,
(26:29):
Trump called in the president of El Salador, who's our
patsy anyway, He's.
Speaker 12 (26:36):
The coolest, He's the world's coolest dictator. Come on, Yeah, well,
I didn't really know there was did you.
Speaker 10 (26:49):
No? No, I didn't either. Nobody told me.
Speaker 12 (26:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (26:55):
I'd like to send Popeye over to visit him. Anyway, long,
long story, long story. Short with this is they're just
essentially ignoring these courts and and then when the courts
make an order ignore that too.
Speaker 12 (27:22):
And not going too well though so far. Really, I
mean this, look, this is the big one. I mean,
this is this is the confrontation to come. It's just
about here. Judge Boseburg, you know, who's been pretty good
so far. Issued in a ruling today, you know, that's
(27:43):
that's pretty much you guys are in probable cause that
you're in contempt. Uh, that's going to set up this
is a constitutional crisis that's pretty much upon us. Yeah,
as to whether the executive branch can ignore the rulings
of the judicial branch, yeah.
Speaker 10 (28:06):
And you know, so they make that they make the
arguments that they're they make the argument that it's separation
of houses.
Speaker 12 (28:18):
You know, they're not making much of any argument that
makes any sense. I mean, that's very cues and all that.
But this has never happened before. And the Supreme Court
has spoken, albeit a little bit, you know, mealy mouth
in a meily mouth fashion. Yeah, I was gonna say, mushi, yeah, mushi,
(28:42):
right right, But you know, it's pretty clear they certainly
this administration is making no attempt to either facilitate, which
is the word that the Supreme Good Use settled on,
or effectuate the return of this young man, who, by
the way they have this administration is offered absolutely no
(29:02):
evidence that this fella gave one thing wrong. All right,
all right, let me every day and say, well, he's
a member of a gang.
Speaker 10 (29:11):
All right, let me let me stop you there. This
is Eric Follin, host of the Uncommon Sense Democrat right
here at NBC Radio. Casey ay, and I'm joined by
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Speaker 10 (32:47):
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. Miss Eric found the post
of the uncommon Sense Democrat writer on NBC Radio case EAA.
I'm joined today by John Bowser Baumann, who is the
president of the Social Security Works Pack. And uh, we've
been dug in deep into a couple of topics. We're
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going to try to get through all of our topics
for today, but I'm beginning to doubt it.
Speaker 12 (33:18):
We're got to think to the important ones. So, yeah,
it could be more important than than that. Than that
this administration is completely ignoring a series of court orders,
including a Supreme Court decision.
Speaker 10 (33:35):
Well how about this one deporting US citizens who have
convictions abroad. Think about that? That means that means if
you if you uh, I don't know. Let's just say
(33:57):
you had a misdemeanor and and you know you've got
up somebody's got into somebody's hair. Under this theory that
they're implementing, you could be put out of the country.
Speaker 12 (34:17):
Right into a torture chamber in El Salvador because you
and the world's coolest dictator by self proclaimed get along
really well. So you know, Donnie, Donnie can just ship you,
ship you over there to the torture chamber. And that's
what they've done to Gilmark, you know, with no evidence
(34:39):
that this guy has done anything wrong.
Speaker 10 (34:42):
No, but by the way, they don't even have evidence
that he belongs to it's a fifty three fifty one
whatever the gang is.
Speaker 12 (34:51):
No, they have no evidence. They presented no evidence. They
were asked to present evidence in the court. They came
up with nothing. In fact, they said it was a mistake. However,
so they told the judge it was a mistake. But
every day they come out and say, wholla, you know,
he's a member of this this very mesis Wayland gang.
(35:12):
You know the world's coolest dictators sat there in the
Oval office talk about Kutzpah sat there in the Oval
office and talked about talked about how important it was
it was to to make sure that terrorists aren't don't
menace the United States of America. This guy from El
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Salvador is talking about terrorists menacing the United States of America.
There's no evidence whatsoever that this guy's a terrorists or
even a gang member, right right, if there is nobody nobody,
I'm sorry, but you know panch so called Attorney General,
Pam Bondi, you know who it feels like spends more
(35:56):
of her time at the beauty parlor, you know, getting
getting her hair bleed, then should spend time reading the
Constitution of the United States or any other text of
law for just sitting there saying, well, the guys, the
guys in the gang that ain't good enough in course
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evidence where the right right?
Speaker 10 (36:20):
And now they're suing. I believe it's the state of Maine.
It's going after the state of Maine because it declines
to follow their orders on trans women right and what
they do don't get to do, where they get to
play sports and whatnot. Oh, look, I understand that that
(36:42):
is controversial for many people. I mean, I can tell
you myself, and I've known a lot of trans people.
Speaker 13 (36:56):
And.
Speaker 10 (37:02):
But duaise, duaise handling, it's terrible.
Speaker 12 (37:15):
Well, in this case, I'm personally friendly with two different
people who are relevant in this exact discussion, and let
me just tell you quickly who they are. I'm personally
friendly with Martina and Averett Tolova, who's been an excellent
progressive on virtually every issue. And I became friendly with her,
(37:37):
you know, on Zoom during she lives in Florida and
in previous elections. I can tell you there is nobody better.
I had her present to the Florida Seniors Council that
we put together as part of the DNC with regard
to her having grown up in a in a country
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living under a dictator in what was formerly Czechoslovakia. And
I'm telling you, there is nobody better to present on
what it's like to live in a country under a dictator,
which we're best approaching here in America than Martina and
Nefritalova on this issue. And she's one of the best
female athletes in the history of the world. You know,
(38:20):
former number one tennis player, and you know, one of
the best that there ever was. She feels strongly that
it is a problem for what she refers to as
biological males to compete in women's sports, especially on any level,
(38:40):
including a scholastic level. Okay, I'm also personally friendly with
Governor Janets Mills of Maine, who was the woman who
I couldn't have been more proud of anyone, and especially
of her because she's somebody I know when she stood
up to Donald Trump right to his face and he said,
I'm denying your federal money because you won't listen to
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me on this issue, and she said, I follow the law,
you know, And what you said, Eric is is what's
exactly right. This is a matter for the law of
the state of Maine. This is not something This is
not something that Donald Trump just can issue an edict
like he loves to do, and it goes for everybody everywhere,
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because he said, so, you know this, this is a
matter that needs to be decided in in in states
under the law of those states. And that's where we're at.
Speaker 10 (39:35):
Yeah, well, I'll tell you it stinks.
Speaker 12 (39:42):
It's an issue, but let's decide it, like you know,
like a society that is that is actually lives under
the rule of law, not a society that lives under
the rule of a of a of a dumb ass dictator.
Speaker 10 (39:58):
I remember, many, many years ago, my mother and I
were having a conversation about transgender people. I was probably
I don't know, I was probably in my early twenties,
and we were talking about trans people and I said
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to my mother, but I don't think I've ever met one.
And my mother said, do you remember my friends Jay
and Brenda? And I said, of course. My mother said
Jay was trans right, And I had no idea. I
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had no idea.
Speaker 12 (40:46):
Well related subject your mother and my sister in law
right now, I would be very curious where she was.
She's still with us today. You know what her opinion
was this issue. She she was for your for your listeners,
one heck of an athlete, and when she h entirely
(41:10):
irrelevant in a way, but totally relevant in another way.
I would go to ally Pine Park and Queens with
your father and your mother, and I was I was
ten years younger than both of them, and you know,
so let's say I was ten and they were twenty,
and we would have a catch. And I remember vividly
(41:33):
saying to your father, Richard, can you please throw the
ball to me, because when Gail throws frozen to be
my hand hurt. I can't. She throws it too hard
in my hands. Well, and these were the old days
when people would say somebody like throws, there was an
expression like you throws like a girl, you know, stated
(41:58):
an expression anyway, Well, your brother did not throw anything
like that. That supposed throws like a girl. She threw.
She threw like a major league pitcher. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (42:09):
Well, my mother, we are getting too deep in this.
My mother met what's her name to tennis player but Helva,
I don't know, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 12 (42:22):
That was Chris evert uh pick a.
Speaker 10 (42:25):
Tennis player first, first one who had surgery, Billy King
rich No, no, you're missing, doesn't matter. I don't know
what you're driving at. Renee Richards was the was the
transgender tennis player. This is a real point on this topic.
Remember when Billy Jean King, you know, played played against
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the man yep, in that great big match when when
we were all much.
Speaker 12 (42:53):
Younger, yep. You know. It's important to note she did
not play against Steve Smith or Arthur Ashe, you know,
the best male tennis players. Because there was no question
about it that she was would lose against them. She
played against Bobby Riggs and over the hill, you know,
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not not he was a tennis pro, but not one
of the best male tennis players in the in the world.
You know there were biological differences there are.
Speaker 10 (43:24):
Yeah, well, in any case, just move on. My mother.
My mother met this uh trans tennis player.
Speaker 12 (43:36):
You know, she Renee Richards. That was doctor Renee Richards,
who was Richard Raskin, who was an ophthalmologist. I think
I think who became Renee Richards and was trans.
Speaker 10 (43:54):
Regardless, I don't want to waste any more time on this.
I just want to say it was kind of interesting
because that triggered my mother's interest because, as you well know,
my mother was a very masculine woman and a terrific athlete.
Speaker 12 (44:07):
Terrific, unbelievable, you know. So that's why it would be
interested in her in her opinion, which you know might
be like Martinez's opinion where it really comes down to
you know, look, this issue skated by in those old
days in professional sports largely because Richard Raskin, who became
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Renee Richards, wasn't really good enough to beat the best
female tennis players. She was good enough to play pro,
but not good enough to to really win tournaments.
Speaker 10 (44:49):
Yeah, I'll try to remember that that player's name.
Speaker 12 (44:54):
Let's move on.
Speaker 10 (44:56):
So RFK had a an emergence the press conference today,
And I say it that way because these things are
well planned, in advanced and people are notified, and you know,
and he started in on the vaccines. Yeah, and and
(45:24):
you realize he may be now saying, well, if you
if you're you know, if you're, if it's time for
you to take the measles vaccine, you should do it.
You don't have to do it, but you should do it.
And I guess that's that's a step above or two steps.
Speaker 12 (45:45):
Above where he was, yeah, kind of sort of. Yeah,
I mean it's fair to say where he was not
where public health, but not a step above where public
health is in for our entire lifetimes, which basically eradicated this,
this miserable disease.
Speaker 10 (46:09):
Six hundred cases in Texas.
Speaker 12 (46:12):
Right now, right right, that's the result of people not
not being vaccinated. Yeah, and you knows, as you know,
once again, thinking inside our family, you know, your aunt,
my wife, you know, we are eagerly awaiting the results
(46:34):
of our FK Junior's new study that he has begun,
that he says by the fall he's going to announce
what causes audis because he is going to somehow know
better than every study that has been ever done, including
the one that he keeps citing that has been debunked
(46:54):
over and over and over again because it was completely
fraudulent that said that vaccines caused autism. So now he's
going to revisit that in some half assed manner and
come up with some finding in the fall, which I'm
sure we'll be a finding that is completely scientifically wrong.
(47:14):
But you know, we're we're in deep doo doo with
this stuff.
Speaker 10 (47:17):
Yeah, all right, So his press conference this morning was
entirely unimpressive. He's pulling the same pushing the same buttons
he has been all along.
Speaker 12 (47:35):
Yeah, I personally, I think, you know, as somebody who
was who for fifty five years, you know, made a
living with my voice, I think you should have a
press conference about what's wrong with his voice. I really
would like to know that. Like he can't even listen
to this guy, never minding the content, just the just
(47:56):
the execution is so off.
Speaker 10 (48:02):
Well, and he's married to Ryl Hines, which somehow stuns me.
Speaker 12 (48:09):
Me too, and you know it hurts curby your enthusiasm,
which was otherwise very funny. Yeah, I have a big
problem with this.
Speaker 10 (48:21):
Yeah, well but I am.
Speaker 12 (48:24):
Let's talk about the biggest problem of all with regard
to not the biggest problem of all, but the genesis
of the problem here, because this really needs to be said,
which is that the genesis of the problem is that
the is that the despicable human being in the White
(48:45):
House gave this guy this job for one reason and
one reason only. The guy is completely unqualified to be
HHS secretary. He only has this job because he Donald
Trump is transactional and RFK Junior gave Trump his votes
(49:09):
by when he dropped out of the presidential race period.
So this is Donald Trump going like he does with
everything else, like, oh, yeah, this guy was good to me,
you know he was. He gave me something that I wanted.
So yeah, here, here you become AKHS secretary. Disgusting.
Speaker 10 (49:27):
Yeah, all right. So Trump's been playing this game with
the tariffs. One day he's talking about, you know, he's
raising tariff's one hundred and forty five percent, and then
the next day he's not gonna raise him one hundred
(49:50):
and forty five percent. He's gonna pause it on certain items.
And and so in my notes or in our run
of show, I wrote, Trump and the tariffs, can or
should he recover?
Speaker 12 (50:13):
It?
Speaker 10 (50:13):
Has damaged it has damaged his reputation so much. And
I mean personally, I don't care about his reputation, right,
couldn't care less about it.
Speaker 12 (50:33):
Well, for better or worse. You know, this is still
the issue out of all the issues we've discussed this hour,
this is probably the issue that's going to end up
doing this administration in the quickest. I don't disagree with
you that you know this question as to what's going
to do Trump in because he's really not accountable to anybody.
(50:54):
You know, he doesn't have to run again, but you
know a lot of these people in Republican world have
to run again, and even people within his cabinet have
to have some kind of career after this. And the economy,
it always is the economy stupid, that's true. And this one,
this one, you know, Bed chair Jerome Powell came out
(51:17):
this morning and said very clearly that this ain't looking good.
This they' looking good for the economy we're going in
and we're going to go into a period of high
inflation as a result of the tariff. And that was
the opposite of what Trump ran on if you remember correctly,
he said he was gonna he was going to fix
(51:38):
inflation on day one. He also said he was only
going to be a dictator on day one, and we
see that he intends to be a dictator the entire time.
Speaker 10 (51:47):
Okay, wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait,
I got to explain something to you. But now, on
day one, God created heavens and earth. Okay, but how
could he have done how could he have done?
Speaker 5 (52:05):
No?
Speaker 10 (52:05):
No, no, how could he have done that in one day?
What was that one day?
Speaker 12 (52:12):
What was like the day that Mike Johnson, you know,
or like i'd like to call him, Trump's little Johnson created. Now, again,
there's too much of the weeds for this show, but
you know that that Mike Johnson declared, like the entire
rest of the of the legislative session to be one day,
because that way he could avoid is an issue that
(52:33):
he can avoid legislatively. The day is just a valuable concept, Derek.
You know, God's day was a lot different from Trump's Day.
Speaker 10 (52:46):
Yeah, I think God's Day was a lot longer Number one,
a lot longer, a lot better, well until until somebody
decided they were going to take a fight out of
that apple.
Speaker 12 (53:01):
Oh you know, well, yeah, that's not on the agenda.
Let's not go to that topic. That was too hard.
Speaker 10 (53:10):
Anyway. So the question is though, as you know, I
was discussing this with a couple of people the other
day and I said, do you care if Trump recovers?
And one of them said, you know, no, I don't care,
or do I care, But the other one said, yes,
(53:32):
I care because he's America.
Speaker 12 (53:36):
Yeah, I think it's a real problem. Our ally hate us,
the whole world hates us. The economy, which was really
in very good shape, you know, the Economist magazine said
it best, you know, the envy of the world at
the end of the Biden administration, and now look look
what we've got. And you know, a lot of people,
(53:58):
a lot of people really are stuck and going to
suffer even more through all of this. You know, I've
been compiling a set of videos, you know, for hearing
that we had that hot team Jefferies, you know, held
last week in Steering and Policy of people who who
(54:18):
whose testimony is that if Social Security gets cut, they
won't be able to pay their rent, They're going to
have to cut their meds in half. In one case,
a woman said she's going to be homeless. Uh, you know,
this is serious stuff. And I appreciate both viewpoints that
you of your friends that you just quoted, because no,
(54:43):
I don't care what happens to Trump. To me is
a scourge. But our country's going down the tubes here.
We can't really afford almost four more years of going
down the tubes in this way. And China's lurking, making
looking better and better to a lot of countries all
(55:05):
around the world. This is this is really problematic. For
this is not making America grade again. It's making China
grade again. And we've got and and.
Speaker 10 (55:16):
Jes and Finn. It's a lot smarter than Trump and he.
While Trump has got our tariffs on them up to
one hundred and forty, Jess and Finn's got it one hundred, he's.
Speaker 12 (55:36):
Not moving it right. And he's also kind of unaccountable
in a way. But like you say, to his to
his own population, but he has really fallen into into
good times here for him because Trump, like you say,
is he is so much smarter than Trump that he's
(55:59):
just a to revel in what Trump is doing completely
until you know all of this, the entire financial crisis
from from the our economy being the envy of the world,
was created by one person, Donald Trump, period, and Jiji
(56:22):
Ping is the beneficiary of his creation.
Speaker 10 (56:27):
Sad Yeah, yep, Well, I personally don't care if he
recovers and his administration recovers. I don't want our country
to go slamming.
Speaker 12 (56:44):
Down, right, and so many people suffering, so many people
suffering from it.
Speaker 10 (56:50):
You know, I listen, I listen, I listened, I listened there.
I listened to Congressman Raskin earlier today. And while I
don't know that he's presidential material, he is one of
the smartest, most coherent men I've ever encountered.
Speaker 12 (57:12):
Absolutely, you know a bad way. You know, you were
talking about you were talking about the the the apple,
the eaton. I mean, if we're going to talk about Adam,
let's talk about Adam Shipp's part two.
Speaker 10 (57:30):
Unquestionably so.
Speaker 12 (57:34):
And by the way, let me say one quick thing,
because I know we're coming to the end of our hour,
but one quick thing about Jamie Raskin. Let's say, and
Adam Ship, It's like, why is Jamie Raskin not presidential material?
You know, we're silly. Jamie Raskin should be presidential material,
you know. Yes, Jamie Raskin doesn't present, you know, in
(57:56):
the classic way that you might think of somebody as
being quote Eidential, whatever the heck that means.
Speaker 8 (58:02):
No.
Speaker 10 (58:03):
But still he still looks exhausted from his cancer.
Speaker 12 (58:07):
Right, He's right, right, And I think it may be
maybe a bigger job than he wants to take on,
but maybe not. Ye'll see. Look, let's see, let's let's
try to get the country through. As I've said over
and over again, but I'll stay one more time on
this show. Donald Trump has eighteen months from January twentieth
(58:28):
in which he's trying to destroy the institutions of the
United States of America. I do not think he's going
to be able to destroy elections. We are going to
destroy the Republican Party in these midterms, and then it's
a matter of getting ourselves to twenty twenty eighth, when
it's going to be a bruising but interesting Democratic primary
with a lot of talent out there.
Speaker 10 (58:49):
Right, I gotta I gotta stop you. This is Eric.
This is Eric Bauman, host of the Uncommon Sense Democrat,
right here in NBC Radio Case Seat Ay from our
new studios, and I look forward to seeing you all
next week again. Hopefully the weather will be a little warmer,
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