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And now it's time for a brand new show on
k c a A The Uncommon Sense Democrats with your host,
Eric Bauman, a show about politics and contemporary issues. And
now here's Eric.

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Bauman and you're live. Eric, You're back in there, you go,

(07:07):
you get.

Speaker 10 (07:18):
Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. This is Eric common host
of The Uncommon Sense Democrat, right here on NBC Radio
k c a A, coming to you from the beautiful
New Studios k c a A. We're gonna be all
goofed up today because although we had a well worked

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out plan for today's show, the UH fiscal numbers came
in A boy, did they screw everything up for us.
I'm joined today by Professor Ronald Blaker from Glendale College
and professor and influencer George Blake from Trade Tech Los Angeles.

(08:08):
And I guess we have to start off with those
morning financial reports from today. They were just stunning, don't
you think, guys?

Speaker 9 (08:20):
Yeah, not in are you all there?

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (08:28):
Yes, I said stunning. But I usually think of stunning.

Speaker 14 (08:31):
As Rona, George, where you're Eric, I always think of
the word stunning.

Speaker 10 (08:43):
I don't know what happened here. Just give me one
second to try to figure it out. Oh all right,

(09:25):
I couldn't hear you, but I guess you were there,
so throwing off our schedule. This morning was the release
of the gross domestic product numbers for the first quarter
of this year, and the numbers are dreadful rona. The

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gross domestic product was down thirty percent. Yes, Trump's popularity
was down between seven twelve percent, depending which poll you
look at. He's got to turn around and lash out
or try to make something up. Don't you agree? Question mark?

(10:15):
Why you like that? Question Mark?

Speaker 13 (10:17):
I always agree with you. I mean, somebody's got to
do something. He's going to last out in some way
because he can't stand to be unpopular, and of course
there's a direct correlation.

Speaker 10 (10:32):
All right, Well, maybe you guys can't hear me.

Speaker 14 (10:35):
Oh but we can.

Speaker 9 (10:37):
We can, we can hear you.

Speaker 13 (10:42):
What do you think.

Speaker 10 (10:43):
Can you hear me? I can?

Speaker 9 (10:45):
I can hear you, George, I can hear you.

Speaker 12 (10:49):
I'm going volume down.

Speaker 13 (11:10):
Pit numbers and the economic numbers.

Speaker 9 (11:14):
I related, Well, yes, because this guy's values herself on
the numbers. Even the main up one since the eighties
has always been fake wealth or real wealth and a
lot of pillars of post and so I know that
it's crashing around him, and even the interview that he
did with CBS, I think sort of lays bare as

(11:38):
the fact that he's unpursual what he's even wrought. I
think he's just as surprised as everyone else. And it
reminds me that years ago, someone who was doing a
profile and Trump said that he does not have what
he was just a businessman as such, and said that
he would never have a plan during the day, no agenda.
He liked to walk into the office and take on
whatever was on the top of his desk. And so

(12:00):
that's kind of terrible way to run the president in
a context.

Speaker 10 (12:05):
It speaks to the.

Speaker 9 (12:06):
Willing, milling nature of everything. But it also seems it
seems like that would be his comfort place, even though
it makes everybody else uncomfortable. Is to complete this ugh
that he enjoys, feeling that spontaneity the rest of us
really would dislike some Normalsy, we're not going to get it,
not during this term.

Speaker 13 (12:22):
No, it doesn't. There you are, and we're talking about
this term and people are talking about one hundred days,
and I just think, oh, my goodness, how many more
days we're just sitting here agreeing with you?

Speaker 9 (12:37):
Eric?

Speaker 10 (12:38):
Yeah, all right, So let's start off with what do
you guys think about this vastly diminished pros domestic product
and the vast diminishment of the popularity rating.

Speaker 13 (12:59):
We were just saying they're obviously correlated. I mean, he
ran on this this platform. Prices are going to go
down and you're going to be so rich. And that's
what the people who voted for him. That's why they
voted for him. I imagine, and and h I think

(13:20):
we're heading for a recession unless no, I can't imagine
who that's somebody is going to be because everybody in
his administration is just laughing up after him.

Speaker 10 (13:36):
Yeah, I agree with you. Well, I think this is
a big deal, this topic that we're talking about. No
matter what you feel about him, our economy is in
the in the dregs. Yes, I almost I almost forgot

(14:02):
for I was still on terrestrial radio.

Speaker 13 (14:08):
It is, and it's thinking, and it's there's no reason
it didn't. It didn't have to be like this, That's
what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 10 (14:20):
Right, Well, while you're right, it did not have to
be like this, right, And the worst and the worst
part is I was reading an article about what they've cut.
They've cut programs for black kids, They've cut programs for women,

(14:42):
They've cut programs for children, they've cut programs for LGBTQ people.

Speaker 9 (14:50):
The problem is is all the cutting is never getting
them to the magic number that they promised their wealthy
donors that they would get over a trillion dollars worth
the cut, and there is no way to do it.
They can keep cutting all these tiny programs through the
bare minimum and try to fire as many people. You
could fire the entire federal government and you will still

(15:11):
not get to that trillion dollars. If they promise them,
they're going to have to go after the third veil,
and they're going to go after Medicaid and that will
be the end of that.

Speaker 10 (15:21):
Sure, I agree with you. All right, Well we may
come back to that if I think of something. The
GOP's got a secret plan to destroy etiquette. We've talked
about some of it the last few minutes, starting with

(15:45):
they want to caught the federal match for Medicaid expansion.
And the thing that kills me about this is where
was the vast majority of Medicaid expansion? Can eaterview answer me?

Speaker 13 (16:01):
In Red states?

Speaker 10 (16:03):
Are in Red states? Yes?

Speaker 9 (16:11):
Crazy?

Speaker 13 (16:13):
I mean They talk so many times about people voting
against their own interests, and it's gonna become very real,
very soon.

Speaker 9 (16:21):
Yeah, yes, it will be about the.

Speaker 13 (16:26):
Cuts in the Department of Education. When people can't get
medicine and they and their children can't get an education,
certainly somebody's gonna start a.

Speaker 15 (16:40):
Revolution, right, No, well, you know, even even uh.

Speaker 10 (16:52):
Boy, I had to take medicine for my stomachs, I'm
a little bit off. Ah, well, it's all right, I'll
be fine, just two point five milligrams. Well when, uh,

(17:24):
you know, when when we did this, right when we
started looking at what our options with him were, people
were scared to death. People thought, oh, medical is gonna go,

(17:46):
maybe they'll cut medicare next, et cetera, et cetera. Right,
and frankly, I think it's pretty horrible. You know. So
we're down one hundred days. Is what's next up for
this clown? What's he gonna do?

Speaker 15 (18:07):
I mean, good, well, he's gonna have to backtrack.

Speaker 13 (18:12):
He's already shown that when his numbers stood down. He's backtracked.
He's backtracking on Ukraine. He just finds something this afternoon,
a deal with Ukraine. After talking to President Valinski at
the post funeral where he embarrassed America in front of
the entire world. I assume he's gonna have to backtrack,

(18:38):
and he finds a way that to say it in
a way that it's not backtracking, but it is that
Caroline Lennon is the Queen of news speak from nineteen
eighty four. He's hilario, yes, except that he's dangerous.

Speaker 9 (19:03):
Right.

Speaker 10 (19:06):
Yes, Well, we're gonna have to keep our eyes open, kids,
because we don't really know what's gonna happen. Oh and
I love yesterday. Trump says, I run the country and
the world. He thinks he's he thinks he's invincible, but

(19:28):
cracks are beginning to show.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
Yep, yes they are.

Speaker 7 (19:34):
God help us.

Speaker 9 (19:36):
M a nice big fisher. I would love a giant fisher.
Crack it all.

Speaker 10 (19:45):
Yes, Well, well, I think we're gonna have to make
do with what we have. But I don't know. I'm
not sure what to what to think, what to do?

(20:06):
You know? What do we say about this mess? M?
You know, tomorrow's May the first mm hmm, it's May day,
all right. I mean, I'm kenny, go ahead.

Speaker 13 (20:28):
What will there be strikes?

Speaker 10 (20:34):
I suspect there will be hm hmm, because you've got
a few strikes already going on. You know, the l A,
the LA County workers are striking as well.

Speaker 13 (20:46):
They should be m hm.

Speaker 10 (20:51):
I meant to say they're they're striking. I didn't mean
to say they worked.

Speaker 13 (20:56):
You said striking. I mean I have friends who has
been a staunt Trump's supporter, and now all of a sudden,
the city is making job cuts, and all of a
sudden she's getting in touch with her union.

Speaker 10 (21:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (21:15):
I mean, one by one, these changes are going to happen,
and we absolutely have to figure out how to martiallette
energy for the midterms, which will be here fairly soon.

Speaker 15 (21:33):
That's what I think.

Speaker 10 (21:36):
I am not a big AOC fan generally. I think
she's kind of brilliant. I think she's exceptionally well spoken. Yeah,
and you know, it's like she's a whole different generation
of Bernie Sanders.

Speaker 9 (21:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (21:57):
No, I mean, I mean, that's it's true.

Speaker 13 (22:01):
It's been fun to see them together. I didn't used
to be as much as a fan of hers as
I am becoming because I think maybe she can't maybe
she is the key to try trying to speak to
young people. Yeah, in what I had to say as much.

Speaker 9 (22:22):
As I try, well, you know, it's it's sometimes a messenger,
not just a message exactly. She's streams, she plays video
games and streams and talks about politics. It's brilliant. Ye,
It's a really brilliant way to reach people. And as
much as we love those who have dedicated so many

(22:43):
years of their service to it, it's a modality they're
not going to understand, even be interested in, and nor
should they necessarily have to be. I think I'm certainly
appreciating what David Hogg is doing and that he's willing
to upset the cards and look forward, get rid of
the entrenchment and find new candidates, make it a fresh party,

(23:03):
this fresh voices, because that's where I see the Democratic
Party really being the winner. If we get the young
we used to always have the young vote. We need
that young vote.

Speaker 10 (23:13):
Again, you know. But the problem is what David Hog
is doing. And ladies and gentlemen, if you don't know
who David Hogg is, he was one of the kids
who was caught in the shooting at George which school was.

Speaker 9 (23:31):
At Marjorie Stellman Douglas right.

Speaker 10 (23:36):
He was one of the kids who was caught in that. Yeah,
and he got out and he became very political. Yeah,
and he's and he's very smart. Yep. But he also
thinks is my mother would have said, he thinks the

(23:57):
stomach is bigger than his mouth.

Speaker 9 (24:05):
Here is that, here's that useful thing. But honestly, the
party is not going to live fifty years on Nancy Pelosi.

Speaker 6 (24:13):
Get is.

Speaker 10 (24:15):
It's just I think I think Nancy. I think Nancy
Pelosi's pretty much had her day other than helping us
raise money.

Speaker 9 (24:24):
He has and they have. And so what we're looking
at is this is how I always know. It's not
my generation. I don't agree where you go, oh am,
I gone.

Speaker 14 (24:36):
I can hear you, I can hear you, can.

Speaker 13 (24:40):
Hear him, I can hear you, and and I can
hear George.

Speaker 10 (24:45):
And you know we might not well, I'm not sure.

Speaker 13 (24:52):
George George is right here.

Speaker 10 (24:55):
I'm not We have a femings left before our break, Rona,
you got anything to say?

Speaker 13 (25:03):
Yeah, I agree with what your grandmother might have said
that maybe David Hodge is brash. You know who else
is brushed you? And you know what you did.

Speaker 10 (25:13):
Okay, you were very.

Speaker 13 (25:15):
Very affective when the California Democratic Party, So so let
him be brash. What I really don't like. I heard
it out of the news the other night somebody one
of the one of the female Democratic senators, the one
who gave this.

Speaker 10 (25:37):
All right, ladies and gentlemen, So we we we've watched
what a really bad day for Trump can look like
today and the problem is that we were all at
the foot of it. Think about that, we are all

(25:59):
at the foot of it.

Speaker 13 (26:03):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 10 (26:06):
Hopefully we'll all get our X together and uh be
able to sorry, be able to do this show without

(26:33):
you know, falling apart. I mean, the truth is, there's
a lot of material here to cover, and I don't
like I said, I don't know what to cover next.
I think we're going to go Our next topic is
going to be the backlash that Trump is receiving from

(26:56):
his own people. So we're going to go to break.
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Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. This is Eric Bouman, host
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Everything is good for the show today, other than the

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fact that we keep dropping each other and I want
to know which if you can pick me up? So
all right, Rona. Trump is beginning to reap the backlash
of his own making. Tell us about that and what

(32:30):
you think about that.

Speaker 13 (32:33):
I think it's correlated to the economic numbers. I think
that there are about forty percent of Republicans who don't
agree with what he's doing at the moment. They don't
think his priorities are right. This goes back to him
saying he was going to cut inflation on the first day.
You're just going to stop the war in Ukraine on

(32:55):
the first day. He And that's the number of Republicans
that will admit it.

Speaker 12 (33:05):
You know.

Speaker 13 (33:06):
That's why we have a ballot box, because honestly, I
think people are ready there, both than people who were
Stag's Republican. I just wish we didn't have to wait
four years, you know. I like the British system where
you can have a vote of no confidence. But his
own cabinet has had a backlash against him.

Speaker 10 (33:27):
And.

Speaker 13 (33:29):
I don't even know what to say about the backlash
against Pete Pegsath, who has become a laughing stock. And
I'm surprised that Trumps hasn't done something like that. It's
just because he's stubborn, I guess. But Trumps doesn't like it.
He doesn't like it when people don't like him, and
he really doesn't like it when people laugh at him.

(33:50):
And people are laughing except the ones who are terrified,
which is probably the same people about this man being
in charge of Mary.

Speaker 10 (34:02):
It's just ten yeah, towards your thoughts.

Speaker 9 (34:08):
Well, how do I say dittoh and put it on
repeat at everything? Lena said, it's spot on it, And
I think there's a certain delight saying some finally get
some of the justiceers that he's earned and work so
hard for over one hundred days. I think what's also

(34:29):
kind of interesting is the way that it's breaking down.
It's moving in the actually in the waves of the
tariffs that's starting with these the people at the port,
and now it's becoming truckers, and we know soon it
will become retail. And so as this continues to roll
like a tsunami across the country, and we happen on

(34:49):
the tariff turndown. I think it will become even worse
for him. And there's a guy again who makes the
whole identity based on money and wealth. So losing money
and things quat the opposite of what he once and
I honestly I couldn't happen to a better guy.

Speaker 10 (35:09):
All right. Well, one of them brought up Pete haggsas
I think it was growing up, And Pete Hagsis is
a mess. For those of you who don't know, folks,
Pete Haggsis is our defense secretur. And he's just out
of time with reality, seriously out of time with reality.

(35:34):
And he has belonged to, uh, several of these groups. George,
what are they called?

Speaker 9 (35:47):
Uh the group I'm signaled with that?

Speaker 10 (35:53):
I was thinking.

Speaker 9 (35:55):
That was social media basically.

Speaker 10 (35:58):
Right, Okay, So it's a group called Signal and he
belonged to three or four of them, and he was
texting people.

Speaker 15 (36:08):
He was texting.

Speaker 10 (36:09):
People about ultra confidential items from the White House. It's like,
are you serious, So George, take it away?

Speaker 9 (36:30):
Take it away. That would be a good way for
him for what they should do to him. They should
take him away. He's excess, I think has been a disaster,
and it is a perfect example of some cost fallacy,
which is essentially the idea that you've invested so much
already that you are now past the point of no
return and you are willing to risk and lose it

(36:53):
all on something that is sure to only brain you.
And I think he is a perfect example of that.
Trump has never been able to have admit a mistake
or even a correction, and because it could potentially a mistake,
maybe potentially it's a world bide mistake, he can never
admit it, and that work sucks. One of my TikTok
posts recently was how we're gonna have to get used

(37:14):
to the fact that this guy is here. They don't
want him to go, and he is exactly what you
would expect from the Trump administration and an entrench incomfident person
who is there to more undo things established over one
hundred and fifty or two hundred years than anything else.

Speaker 10 (37:34):
Think about that for a second, folks, Just think about that,
because it's actually dead on. It's dead on. I don't
know what the answer is, but we have to keep

(37:57):
our heads about us. And that's damn sure, hey, agsus
hegsis is a creepy. Let's start off. Yeah, let's start
off with that.

Speaker 9 (38:12):
Premise when your mother and has don't hire him exactly,
who can't get a letter of recommendation from their mother?

Speaker 13 (38:24):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 10 (38:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (38:30):
There was this terrible thing that happened where where these
two young men played a prank on the football player
who was going to who thought he was going to
be drafted, and they called him and they said, you're
going to be drafted, and it was a prank. Within
a week, the Atlanta Falcons were were find two hundred

(38:53):
and fifty thousand dollars. The boy's father was found with fank.
Oh god, I can't even speak sign one hundred thousand
dollars women in a week. There were extraordinary consequences for
the action for which these men apologize. It's not that hard.

(39:15):
Somebody has to be somebody has to be the the
half master. And Trump keeps apologizing for him, And you're right, George,
just because he doesn't ever want.

Speaker 9 (39:29):
To be wrong.

Speaker 13 (39:32):
But I still contend that he's going to continue to
be laughed at so much that that trouble gets tired
of him. But then, but then, what then, what are.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
We going to get?

Speaker 13 (39:39):
And I also, like what you said, George, I hadn't
really thought of it this way. They are not in
the in the business of doing. They are in the
business of undoing. Yeah, which I hope will be their
own undoing. But the terrible way to think about our government.

Speaker 10 (39:59):
This this is just a scary period, you know, think
about it.

Speaker 6 (40:07):
We have.

Speaker 10 (40:09):
Yeah, we we we have we have kids who are
you know, leaving college and what have you. Because the
president of the United States is a kook.

Speaker 13 (40:26):
Think about this, well, you know, speaking of colleges, Harvard,
Harvard is fighting back, and Harvard a kind of ford
to fight back, and Harvard b probably as every Harvard

(40:49):
law school educated lawyer helping them. So there's one little
pinpoint of life, a university that that's not afraid, as
opposed to Columbia, which seemed to fold every time Trump
looked at them. They're they're they're going to suffer from that,

(41:12):
that blow to their reputation for at least a generation.

Speaker 10 (41:18):
But let's be real, Harvard has five hundred billion dollars
in their trust funds exactly, so they can stand up
and tell Trump, go screw yourself.

Speaker 9 (41:35):
Yeah, what's important is that they lead a charge ethers
can come behind them, even those that might have a
subtle of money on the line. They can, so many
can follow in their footsteps and challenge the Trump administration.

Speaker 14 (41:57):
Yes, yes, I I don't know.

Speaker 10 (41:58):
It seems that no matter what I do, and keep
losing these two.

Speaker 13 (42:02):
Okay, it's okay, Eric, we're just still talking and we're
still agreeing with each other.

Speaker 10 (42:07):
And oh well, while we wait for them to come back.
Bill O'Reilly, the conservative communicator who's such.

Speaker 15 (42:16):
A pain in the behind, I think people said that.

Speaker 10 (42:19):
He thought Trump was caught totally by surprising the market
reaction to his plans. How could you be caught totally
by surprise? Do you have to be a total schmuck? Seriously,

(42:40):
how could you be surprised?

Speaker 15 (42:47):
I mean, I don't get it.

Speaker 10 (42:52):
My two guests apparently don't get it either, because they've
gone by Buck.

Speaker 13 (42:57):
We're here, and I think people can hear us. He
can be spried because he lives in a world of
his own. He has been insulated his entire life. I
was talking about consequences. He's been insulated from consequences. He
didn't have to go to Vietnam. His dad got him
a doctor to sign something for him, his dad gave

(43:20):
him money. He does not understand basic wouls of the
way the world works that the rest of us understand, well,
you know, lessons I learned in kindergarten. He's really living
in his own head, which is a sign, as you know,

(43:43):
of mental derangements.

Speaker 9 (43:48):
And yet we're supposed to be the ones all suffering
with Trump derangements. And I think exactly, I think there
is a lot of projection there because that's one of
the symptoms.

Speaker 6 (43:58):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 13 (43:59):
Absolutely.

Speaker 9 (44:00):
And also I think that society has pow powed to
him in the way that often does to men of
his kill, to the big too.

Speaker 10 (44:09):
Big, there he goes again.

Speaker 9 (44:12):
So I think it's a problematic before Trump becaus this
is the society has not corrected him. I think the
Supreme Court is certainly.

Speaker 10 (44:19):
We're getting down to their end here and he can't
figure it out to stay on the line.

Speaker 13 (44:25):
We're on the line, Herrick and people.

Speaker 10 (44:27):
I don't know what to make of it.

Speaker 13 (44:29):
I'm pretty sure people can hear us, even though even
though you can't. Yes, I wish this.

Speaker 10 (44:36):
I think it is amazing how these billionaires were so
foolish and lost so much money and lost so much
money in the market last a couple of weeks. I

(44:58):
mean it makes no sense.

Speaker 16 (45:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (45:05):
Well, also, you know, when when is there going to be.

Speaker 10 (45:10):
So As I was mentioning Bill O'Reilly said, I think
Trump was caught by surprise in the markets. Guys, what
do you think.

Speaker 13 (45:21):
I think when is there going to be an investigation
into the fact that Johnald Sun sent out its tweet
saying this would be or whatever it's calf, this would
be a good time to buy. I think this has
been stock market manipulation. I think maybe he did did
it on took his friends made money. I didn't. I

(45:44):
don't have stock. I just keep trying to go to
the grocery store. You know what I thought. I talked
to you that just before I went to the nursery,
and players were so expensive that I started buying, right,
me's just so expensive that I've started buying carsts. That's

(46:10):
gonna gonna be effected about. I mean, these are little
tiny things I'm talking about, and multiple needs, fifty million
women trying to feed their families. What do you think
is gonna happen?

Speaker 9 (46:23):
What do they think the solution is? Because I think
they're aware of what will happen. They're not afraid of that,
but there has to be a solution. And I think
that too often the wealthy in this country thinks that
they can buy or pay their way out of having
to think about the problems. But if the dollar fails

(46:44):
as the world's standard, being a billionaire with American dollars
just lost a lot of his meanings mm. And so
to let someone destroy the economy and the name of
trying to squeeze a few more million dollars away when
you already have literally, or we all know, more than
you could spend in a lifetime and your children's lifetime.

(47:04):
But since that's not enough, you would rather risk losing
the value of everything you have. Because it's a lot
of the fact that a lot of these billionaires are
billionaires on paper. They are not liquid, they're invested. They
own businesses that are directly being affected by this. Jeff Bezos,
we know, try to pipe up earlier by saying he

(47:25):
would put the information of how tariffs are affecting prices
on amazons, only to completely back down later when the
Trump administration said silence, m h. I think we're say
saying that. And ultimately, if they would have done that
they would find that people would be behind them. And
so that's really where their power is. A target right

(47:47):
now is experiencing.

Speaker 10 (47:48):
Exactly all right, as music plays behind us. We have
about eight minutes or left, and I don't know where
my two guests are. If you could, guys, can hear
them out there in radio land.

Speaker 13 (48:05):
But we're right here. Eric talking away.

Speaker 10 (48:10):
Between Trump and the backlash he's receiving because of his
chaos and hexit because of his exposing sensitive military plans,
which he claims were informally and unclassified. I don't know

(48:30):
what's going to happen. I think O'Reilly was funny when
I said when he said, I think Trump was caught
by surprising the markets. He thought the markets would just
bend over for him.

Speaker 9 (48:46):
And then he quickly found after the bond market is
nobody's mister. The bond market is what's really controlling the
whole thing. We discovered when China came back and said,
we'll just calling all one point seven billion dollars in
bonds United States. Your money will be worth nothing. And

(49:07):
that's really what made him move. That's why this entire
bars of a tariff war with China is doing nothing
but going to cause trouble. We are going to be
facing empty shelves in a couple of weeks because there's
nothing you can do to make up for the shortfall
at the docks right now. All of this is a
terrible whipple effect that does not seem to have an
end until this person decides who wants to maniacally and

(49:28):
whimsically move in another direction.

Speaker 10 (49:34):
Neil, I think you're right. I think you're right. All right,
So we got about five minutes left, so guys close
up the show.

Speaker 13 (49:53):
Well, I agree with you, but we're in. But we
don't know what's going to happen next, and I truly
fear that that is more dangerous than we might understand.

(50:14):
We have pet heads that's in charge of the Pentagon,
and lucky us, we haven't had anything, We haven't any
disasters yet. But I I fear that that who may
or may not be in ill health, it's probably plotting something.

Speaker 9 (50:42):
I think.

Speaker 13 (50:43):
I think we don't know what we don't know, and
that frightens me because what I do know is that
when something does happen, the people who are there right
now will not be qualified to protect us. So I'm frightened.

Speaker 9 (51:04):
Well, you know, I say, I have the strangest, oddest
way of having helped through this as a helicopter goes overhead,
go on. But that's a helicopter. My hope is really
in their idiocy because they're not smart people, they're not equipped,

(51:27):
and they're incompetent, and so trying to execute an nefarious
plan with a series of incompetence is basically the plot
of Despicable Need too. So I look at it like
that I am concerning. There will be damaged as a
results of what they're doing. There will not be as
a switch flip with China or with any country that
suddenly wants to do more than enough trade with us.

(51:49):
In fact, it looks like that the longer this padle
goes on with China, the more likely is the other
trading partners will start to have more leverage against them
because we will have empty shell and they don't have
to cowtow for the American dollar. And I think we're
going to see those things as the results of it.

Speaker 10 (52:05):
So I don't know if you guys are still there
or what's going on here.

Speaker 13 (52:10):
George is making excellent points about the economy.

Speaker 10 (52:16):
All right, Well, we're almost at the end of the show.

Speaker 13 (52:25):
The other person who scares me is the sense or
best sense, however to pronounce that, who's in charge of
the Treasury Department, who seems to know nothing and all
of his words are empty.

Speaker 9 (52:40):
Every time I look at the man, I think Gebbels.
He's He's the worst, cruelest enabla, who freakiously enjoys standing
to the side as he in his woodstump nose, is
the destruction of the American economy. But he feels like
many of them do, but they have a way out.

(53:01):
They're just going to find out very quickly that there
is no way out if the American dollar means nothing,
if the American worker is not behind it, and if
the American buyer doesn't have confidence in hurting, it just
won't matter. So totally doesn't have a job, you know.

(53:23):
I wish if Trump had any sense, he fired some
of these people. But he doesn't have any sense. And
the only thing that we'll usually get them fired is
that they get into so much trouble that he needs escapegoats.
So that's why I don't think Hecces will be into
the entire four years, but he will be in for
a while. Longer. And I think the same thing can
be said for the sense, because if we remember the
first Trump administration, he was only too happy to get

(53:44):
rid of people that made him look bad or that
he could blame for making him look bad.

Speaker 13 (53:49):
Yeah, that's true. He's so much more confident now though,
than he was the first time around, which I also frightening.

Speaker 9 (54:02):
Right, he's knowledge, he become more.

Speaker 13 (54:05):
Savage about how how some of it?

Speaker 9 (54:15):
Do you know what I think it is? I think
I don't think he became any kind of constitutional scholar
of any language, or or even knowledgeable about laws to
any depth. But what I do think he discovered was
that the United States is held together by paper clips
and spits. And he discovered that while we think we
have all these ironclad laws allowed them are based on

(54:38):
gentlemanly agreements in the assumption of a person having good
moral for America. And here he is with none of
those things and realizes that, oh, I could really bully
from the pulpit, because there's no one that can ever
correct the president from abusing the people of the United
States if his political party decides that they're too afraid

(54:58):
to move after him. There's a soul mechanism, and they're
never the founding fathers, for all their brilliants, never ever
considered a Donald Trump. Yeah, here we are, here, we are, here,

(55:18):
we are. Although I will say I have no faith
in the falsity that he will somehow remain in power
outside of doing something the faerious with the pads or
something with war. I don't imagine. Because the Republicans want
to stay in power, and he's given them access to
the power. They're not going to want to give up
the power. But they want to give him up because

(55:40):
he's the problem. They're losing money, hold over the stituent,
and Eastern Pam Bondi is charged with scientist steal the
next election. They know that's not really an easily done
Then you can't storm all the states and take all.

Speaker 10 (55:55):
The voting machines.

Speaker 9 (55:56):
You can't, right, And so I think they're I think
they're facing what is going to be probably their end.
But if self preservation means anything, and most of them
are only concerned about their own areas to cover, hopefully
that means that they will also, in the name of
self preservation, bring them to the Senate floor and do
what they did to Caesar.

Speaker 13 (56:19):
Yes, yes, you know you talked about George. Last time
we were on, you talked about you know, truck such
humor and said, you know, get out of the way,
Grandpa and I and I wasn't sure I agreed with you,
but but I'm much more on the same page this day.

(56:40):
With this time after after looking at such humor. You know,
somebody asked him, what are you going to do? And
he said, well, well we sent we sent the president
a strongly worded letter.

Speaker 10 (56:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (56:54):
Well, I've done a lot. I don't think it's ever
gotten me very far.

Speaker 10 (57:04):
Now, well, I think we're about the end of the show. Now,
this is sure A common host of the Uncommon Sense Democrat, writer.

Speaker 15 (57:12):
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Speaker 10 (57:17):
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forward to talking with you next week. And I want
to thank Eric Osirio, our engineer, for keeping things running,
especially since we've been having phone trouble. And Eric is

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always We'll see you next week.

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