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I will Michael, I know how to do it. Ladies
and gentlemen. This is Eric Boum, a host of The
Uncommon Sense Democrat right here on NBC Radio Case. And
it's a pretty beautiful afternoon. I have to say. I'm
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joined today by Chris Roblis, who is a political consultant
and former longtime chair of the San Bernardino County Democratic Party.
We're going to cover a bunch of stuff today if
we get to it. So, Chris, how are you?
Speaker 11 (07:39):
I'm good. I'm enjoying this weather Too's it's a nice
day in the.
Speaker 10 (07:43):
I E you there, Powell.
Speaker 11 (07:50):
Yeah, can you hear me? Can you hear me? Eric?
Speaker 10 (07:55):
Is that that you hear? Chris?
Speaker 12 (07:58):
Hear me?
Speaker 11 (08:00):
I'm here, Hello, asked.
Speaker 10 (08:02):
For the question mark at the hand of that sentence.
Speaker 12 (08:11):
Hello, I'm here, Eric, Eric, Hello.
Speaker 13 (09:25):
Bo.
Speaker 14 (10:35):
In le coasting, basting, basting, basting.
Speaker 10 (11:57):
It's a stone Bill wouldn't following you? And uh, I
hear that. Chris is here. I don't know if Eric's
with us yet, But all right, Chris, I don't know
how far we got with that.
Speaker 11 (12:18):
You had introduced me and I was speaking, but you
couldn't hear me for some reason. I could hear you clear.
Speaker 10 (12:26):
Oh, maybe you should stop whispering.
Speaker 11 (12:32):
I've never been accused of whispering.
Speaker 10 (12:35):
That's all right, So let's get this going here. Trump
did another backflip this past week with all his talk about,
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you know, threatening Canada and what have you. All of
a sudden he went back to he backed off from that.
What do you think about that? Well?
Speaker 11 (13:15):
I think you said it in your in your opening
up the question, which is he's done that again. Every
indication is he's under pressure from his own inner circle
as well as all the major business people that at
least have some form of communication with him, that these
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tars were a bad idea. And now they're trying to
Now the White House. When I say they, I've not
the White House, but really it's Trump is they're trying
to figure out a way to gracefully get out of
this without admitting any wrongdoing. You know, of course he's
big on blaming other people, but this is all on
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his doorstep. And I'm ready to put a bumper sticker
saying paying high prices it's a Trump tax, because that's
what it is, Trump tack.
Speaker 10 (14:14):
Yeah. No, I know you sent me a copy of
your draft of that. Well I don't. I don't honestly
know what to make of this whole thing with Trump
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and taxes and you know, raising tariff tariffs on Canada.
I mean, I don't get it.
Speaker 11 (14:55):
Well, it's I have not read his book, The Art
of the Deal.
Speaker 10 (15:03):
Don't worry, don't worry.
Speaker 11 (15:08):
Yes, but but this is this seems to be his
his mo. You you attack, you put your opponent on
the defensive and force them into a weakened position to negotiate.
The problem is, and if any if anybody ever takes
international relations one oh one or or any kind of
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first level international government course, the the world does not
operate in the same way that the US operates internally
or businesses operate internally. So I was just waiting to
see this thing fall apart, and it already has it
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almost immediately. You cannot He is out of his league.
This is an internet national trade negotiations, and his bully
tactics are not working people. He's lied and said he's
gotten calls from China, and he's gotten calls from other countries,
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but every report has been there's been no calls, So
it hasn't worked. And if anything, it's thrown the international
market since it's busy up and down, back and forth.
Not that that's unusual in and of itself sometimes, but
it's unusually worse this time. And basically his style is
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inappropriate and does not work at a presidential level. It's
fine if you're in New York and negotiating construction of
a building, or you're in New Jersey trying to negotiate
a hotel. It does not work on the international stage.
He's out of his league and he's getting played. We
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all know he's being played by had been played by Putin,
and and he's come to some realization of that too.
That was the topic you talked about. But basically he
is in the net government leader. I won't say whether
he was a good business leader. I have my doubts,
but I don't have that experience. Ex I have him
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as a government leader, and he is.
Speaker 10 (17:30):
Wanting. Well, he's wanting in multiple ways. When you think
about that word, right, I mean he's.
Speaker 11 (17:40):
Just yeah, yeah, hmm.
Speaker 10 (17:48):
Well, I guess we'll see where this goes. But it's
really not working in his direction.
Speaker 11 (18:02):
But it's also interesting the results of the Canadian elections
and the Australian elections. What is it that the people
of those countries know that we didn't know about Trump
as the leader, or perhaps I'll be kind and say
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that they've at least seen him for the first hundred
days in action and decided that their countries did not
want that kind of chaos. Unfortunately, our voters, not the majority,
but enough to get him elected in certain states. I
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really believed that he was going to fix the economy. Well,
he fixed it right, he fixed it to the point
where it's going to take a lot to repair. It's
like it's like calling letting. I think there's that Let's
the TEP show everybody Loves Raymond where the where the
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father keeps coming in to fix the fix the washing
machine and the refrigerator and makes it worse and then
it costs that much more to get the expert to
come and fix it. That's the situation I think we're in.
Speaker 10 (19:21):
Yeah, I agree with you. I agree with you. I
think Trump is not having a good start to his
second term period. I just think he doesn't. You know,
everything is kind of going away from him.
Speaker 11 (19:46):
You know, part of me, I mean, it's it's total
another chaos. It's a lot of destruction of what Americans
have come to expect from government in spite of the
rhetoric anti government concepts and ideas. But everybody has has
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been comfortable and has relied on so security, medicare, safe
water to drink, safe air, many of these things, and
now people are starting to find out and it's one
of those you had to get a kick them in
the butt to realize you've had a good all these years.
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It wasn't bad in spite of what people told you,
and you might have believed, it's actually been good. And
now we're starting to feel the same. And you know,
it's one of those who it's going to get worse
before it gets better. And part of me is okay
with that. I wish we didn't have to go through it.
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But the only way people realize that we had some
fantastic government services and wonderful employees at the government level,
just for them to have to miss it. And that's
some think go ahead, I'm sorry, No, no, go ahead.
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I was going to say, I'm also glad, how inept? Well,
I'm you know this, this entire implementation of Project twenty
twenty five and DOGE in particular, has been so awful
that if we had somebody that was actually smart enough
to carry out those policies, it would be a lot scarier.
Speaker 10 (21:41):
Yeah. Well, his uh, his boy who was running DOGE
just made a fool of themselves.
Speaker 11 (21:51):
Yeah, it's true, yep, yep. And they don't even agree
on the teriffs. It's comical. It's you know, if somebody
had written this as as a book in a movie
everyone ten years ago, everyone would have said this is
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so absurd it could never happen. That's how absurd and
ridiculous it is in real life.
Speaker 10 (22:21):
Yeah, no, I think you're right, Chris So one of
his critical important go forth was banning transgender people from
the military. Oh yeah, so he finally got a tentative
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approval from the Supreme Court yesterday. And it doesn't make
him I mean, it doesn't make sense. First of all,
it's not like they said, don't go forward. They wouldn't
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say that, you know, it's it's it's a tentative shame.
I don't know.
Speaker 15 (23:26):
Well, I'm I'm worried that the majority on the Supreme
Court is going to look at this as the president
is is the.
Speaker 11 (23:42):
I'm sorry, it's just blank in the term that the
head of military, that there's a specific term.
Speaker 10 (23:47):
In commander in chief command, commander.
Speaker 11 (23:50):
And yes, command, I guess the word commander in Trump
in the same sentence was not something my brain would connect.
But yeah, that's that's that. You're right, And I'm afraid
because the president does have commanded in chiefs, yeah, control
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that they're going to refer to that.
Speaker 10 (24:16):
Well, they may they they they they may, and they
may not.
Speaker 11 (24:22):
Well I hope not a report that it's like zero
point zero two percent of the of the population in
the military that are transgender, and many of them are outstanding.
Not that they're not all outstanding, but some are so outstanding, and.
Speaker 16 (24:45):
It would be a tragedy for the safety of.
Speaker 11 (24:49):
Our country if they were to be if they were
to be forced out. It's just absurd. It has you
know that they they want to eliminates the I and
DEI is is not pall. Not what they say is
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at all. They just use the acronym to mean other
people that that uh MEGA doesn't like.
Speaker 10 (25:18):
But well, I mean the problem, the problem is is
that people like you and me, we don't fit the
MAGA criteria. Yeah, you know your last name is Roldles.
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What do I say about that?
Speaker 13 (25:47):
You know?
Speaker 10 (25:48):
I mean, I don't know what to say.
Speaker 11 (25:52):
Yeah, yeah, I mean these people get that our transgender
and in the military currently have reached those positions because
they're outstanding at what they did.
Speaker 17 (26:07):
I would think so suggest otherwise, Yeah.
Speaker 11 (26:10):
To suggests, I mean, how do you. I believe there
was one and I cannot remember all the details, but
one is a fighter pilot and they there is no
way that the military would bend anything for a fighter pilot.
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They just wouldn't bend any rules. So obviously this person
is just highly qualified. And to suggest otherwise or to
kick them out a third right there, I say it's
Germany of the thirties, the thirties, early forties. I mean,
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if you can't parallel is there, you cannot avoid it.
Speaker 10 (26:58):
Well, this kind of goes along with how this guy thinks,
you know, let's be real.
Speaker 11 (27:05):
Yeah, well thinks or or or is using a scapegoat. Right,
the transgender population even of the United States is so minimal.
Speaker 10 (27:24):
Well, that's the thing, that's what always poses.
Speaker 11 (27:31):
Yeah, they pose no danger to any other person. They
certainly don't pose a danger to as and and this
is what they say, right the morality or or what
have you, of others, that they don't pose any danger
to anybody. If anything, they're always in danger as a minority,
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community or individuals. And for them to be singled out
like this.
Speaker 16 (28:01):
Is the opposite of what every religion, every religion teaches,
every religion.
Speaker 11 (28:13):
Does not teach. You attack a minority and you persecute
them all.
Speaker 10 (28:24):
And did you did you grow up Catholic?
Speaker 11 (28:27):
I did? I did, And I'm practicing I'll tell you
that Francis made it easier for me to return to
the church. I'll just say it that way made it
easier for me to return to the church. And just
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on the side note, if we don't get somebody similar,
I think I and many other people what was going
to considering, But that's not on your your topics today.
But since we saw black smoke earlier this afternoon, I
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Speaker 10 (29:12):
Well. Another another friend of mine is talking about becoming Episcopalian.
Speaker 11 (29:22):
Now, are there practicing Catholic right now?
Speaker 10 (29:29):
Yes?
Speaker 11 (29:31):
Hm, I don't. I don't know if I would do that.
I don't know what I'm I would do. I just
for for many years, many of my adult years, and
I went to Catholic school. I went to about high
school in Los Angeles, Loyola, and I just didn't practice.
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I just stayed away.
Speaker 10 (29:56):
Well, you know what they say, practice makes perfect ladies
and gentlemen, Oh no, you will come back, keep your thought. Yeah,
Pope Francis was a terrific guy, that's for sure. Miss
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Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. This is Eric Fowman, host
of The Uncommon Sense Democrat right here on NBC Radio CASECAA,
and I'm joined today by Chris Roebliss, who is a
political consultant and previously was multiple tours the chair of
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the San Bernardino County Democratic Party. So with all of
that aside, we kind of cut off in the middle
of a sentence. So Chris, did you want to finish
what you were about to say or did you get
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enough of it out?
Speaker 11 (35:28):
No, I got enough of it that we can move on.
I'm good.
Speaker 10 (35:33):
Well, that's the question I would have to ask your wife.
I don't know that she would agree. All of this
chaos that Trump has created. What kind of damage has
it done to us businesses already?
Speaker 11 (35:59):
Well, right now they're in the place of torture on
the limbo and you hear them speaking up and then yeah,
there maybe one or two industries businesses out there that
have said, oh, the tarriff is going to help me,
But I think the vast majority and you can hear
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them on NPR as long as it's still funded and
some of the more normal news outlets, these businesses are
talking about a massive impact that they're expected. And the
whole point, the big, big reason for doing these tariffs
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is to force really that's the words they're not using,
but it really is to force the economy, force the country,
force business people, investors to start production in the United
States the things that were done overseas. The problem with
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that is everyone has said slot out it. It takes
four years or more to bring some of these industries back,
if you even want to.
Speaker 10 (37:20):
As it or not.
Speaker 11 (37:21):
We have a global economy and I know a lot
of people don't like it. I get it, and a
lot of people, our friends and labor don't like it.
I get it. I think the biggest mistake over the
course of the last three or four presidencies, as this
global economy was ramping up, was that there was no
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investment in people. This is my personal opinion and as
a former vocational education teacher at Elie Unified, the big
mistake was not investing in people right, and what needed
to happen is as jobs disappeared, as industries changed, and yes,
some disappeared, but others showed up as these things happened,
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there needed to be an investment, the kind of which
we saw after World War Two, when people returned from
the war and needed to be trained into jobs or
given opportunities for education. That investment never happened. There were
piecemeal attempts, but in California, the entire vocational education program
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was decimated by a Democratic governor who decided that the
category what are called categorical funds. Basically, they are funds
that are set aside specifically for specific programs or a category.
Those categorical funds that had established since the seventies and
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into the eighties and carried us all the way in
the two thousands vocational training in California. Because the K
through twelve programs were hurting, they said, oh, just go
ahead and free those up. They'll just free them up. So,
of course, the K through twelve gobbled up all that
funding and all those categories, which ironically served the very
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parents of the kids who were in the K through
twelve programs. Right, So a lot of those kids who
would go home through empty refrigerators and cupboards because parents
were having problems making ends meet. Those parents could have
had great jobs and skilled jobs, had those programs continued
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and the failure to see how everything connects in which
is also the failure of people who don't see a
global economy, as there's no way around it at this point.
But failing to see how everything is interconnected and accepting
that and wanting to go back to what forties and
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fifties is ridiculous. And anyway, that's my take on the whole.
Speaker 10 (40:15):
You when you when you were talking about a Democrat
and you're thinking about Reagan.
Speaker 11 (40:21):
No no, no, no governor No Governor Brown, Jerry Brown.
It was in two thousand. It was two thousand and eight.
I understand, you know there was an economic downturn and
what have you. But he he allowed the and that
had never happened before. And we had other economic issues
in California. It's always been a roller coaster in California.
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But he was the first and only governor that freed
up the categorical funds and there was a fantastic there
were programs. I am in awe of what I participated in.
I'm in awe of the people who designed it. Basically
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at my parents' age. It's people that were twenty to
thirty years older than I who designed the system in
at least that I saw in Southern California between the
community colleges, LA Community Colleges and the LA Unified, And
I'm sure there were similar things here in the IV.
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And they put programs together that just it absorbed a
lot of the problems that could have been devastating when
the aerospace industry left Southern California, because that was about
the time I was in my twenties, that was about
the time that I started working for the district and
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I saw that and we had the programs. Albeit they
weren't big enough, but they were, but they were large
enough and they were in place that it did help
soften the blow of losing that industry. Yeah, and it
(42:10):
was and and that, but there was an investment. I mean,
whether it was purposeful for that problem, I would debate
it wasn't. It just happened to be in place. And
so if it worked and everybody focused on it, and right,
and I had opportunities for all of those displaced workers.
(42:31):
There's nothing now and so so go tying it back
to the the terroriffs aren't the answer for it. It's
it's ridiculous. The build back better is a better concept.
For better policy of investing money in getting businesses to
start manufacturing here then doing a tariff. It's absurd, it's
(42:56):
it's common sense. You don't even have to be an
economy or taken an economy class to realize that a
terror of which is attacked is not going to stimulate
new businesses to grow. If anything, it will steiny existing businesses.
The way you stimulate new businesses, which this country has
(43:17):
done since almost its founding, is you invest in the
infrastructure of it. I always love to point out the railroads,
regardless of the robber barons and all of that, the
structure of the railroads in this country, the stabilization of it,
because if anyone recalled their elementary school history, the early
(43:43):
railroads were all different ages. That's the width of the tracts.
It was the government that put in standards in place
that allowed for that industry and that infrastructure to grow,
and then in a widespread investment to have so across
the country and expand that. The model is practically what
(44:07):
they used for the Internet and for the interstate highway system.
That's investment. That's what you need, not what we're getting now.
Speaker 10 (44:20):
What we're getting, well, I think I think that there's
a whole bunch of bs and saying that charging the
tariffs is gonna bring in money to the country. It's
an absurdity.
Speaker 11 (44:39):
Absolutely.
Speaker 10 (44:41):
All right, well, let's let's move on to the next topic.
What about the cabinet changes and sub cabinet changes. And
we're starting to see all of a sudden, is that
unique to Trump? Is that something we normally fact.
Speaker 11 (45:04):
Not in the first hundred days, you don't expect it.
That definitely is unique to Trump and to the four
choices that were made.
Speaker 10 (45:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (45:16):
Usually usually it's the towards the the it might be
a mid change over after after the midterm elections. Usually
you want things you'll you'll see things are are stable.
As a president, you want things to be stable. So
even if somebody wants to leave or you want them
(45:38):
to leave, you don't let them do it until after
the mid terms, so that everything things bestin show kind
of look, and then then maybe you might make some
changes afterwards. But after the as you get closer to
the to the end of your first four years, that's
(46:00):
not necessarily the situation here, but this is this is
what you usually find is that at the end of
your your first term, and you want to go for
a second, you do the same thing. You you don't
want a lot of changes. When you see the shifts
and changes are immediately after the election and the and
the swearing in. Then you start to see people leaving,
(46:24):
replacements coming in, so on and so forth. Uh, there's
always exceptions, but but that's generally how it's been in
the modern presidency in my lifetime. What we're seeing here
is typical Trump incompetent people put in place no checks
(46:44):
and balances because the Republican Senate refuses to take that on.
And you get people that give away secrets, secret invasion
information on to reporters on a unauthorized on a flip drive. Yeah,
(47:08):
I mean, it's just it's it's insane. So uh, you know,
Trump will never admit any wrongdoing her mistakes. He can't.
It's not his personality show of weakness. What's really weak
is when you can't say you're you're making and you
continue to do to make the same mistake. So all
(47:31):
he's doing is rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
I waited for that one, just for an opening for
that one.
Speaker 10 (47:43):
What what about just just on a slight shift here
to an angle. What about Marjorie Taylor Greens saying she's
not gonna let Trump push her around anymore?
Speaker 11 (47:59):
That one, I haven't I hadn't heard that.
Speaker 10 (48:02):
Oh yeah, this was this is a big this is
a big announcement from last night.
Speaker 11 (48:12):
Uh, I missed that one.
Speaker 10 (48:15):
I wonder what that's all about. H I wonder what
that's all.
Speaker 11 (48:24):
Yeah, yeah, I'm just checking it out right now, see
if there's anything I can pick up on. But now
most of it has been her or she's the share
of a committee and she's just absolutely horrendous, rude, obnoxious, unprofessional.
(48:49):
What more could I say about about it? That's what's
predominantly all over the internet.
Speaker 10 (48:56):
Do you know what?
Speaker 11 (48:57):
The first question?
Speaker 10 (48:58):
Do you know what? The first question one passover is No,
I don't monish Tannah Elilah has Why is this night
different from all other knights? When you and when you
(49:18):
come to Marjorie Taylor and Green, she's as foss as
they get. But she and he are perfect mate and
I thought they'd probably end up getting married, you know.
Speaker 11 (49:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (49:43):
All right? Oh, now, cash Ftel says what Trump and
Republicans are planning to put in a budget for I
don't know if it's for the FBI or what the
hell is for. There's not enough money to run the SBI. No,
(50:07):
you guys, if you guys, wait a minute, you guys
are the ones who've cut the money.
Speaker 11 (50:13):
That's right, that's right, you know they the firings are
bad enough, but the financial cut and we still haven't
seen exactly what their final budget is going to be.
But they're taking all the money they robbins for and
(50:35):
given to the wrist. There's no other way to look
at it exactly what it's all about. I just hope
that there's enoughing from that right uprising the kind we've
seen before, not not to the.
Speaker 15 (50:47):
Point of the Civil war, but but to the.
Speaker 11 (50:50):
Point of the last time there was a progressive movement
in the country where all of the bank regulations went
in place, and the anti tar I'm sorry, anti ah,
I know what you mean. Terror Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no,
I no, I was. It's it's an archaic term. It's
(51:13):
it's anti monopoly, but it's uh, that's the word. Darn it.
Oh my gosh, these days I have I have trouble
picking up I know, I know the words, but I
can't remember these things anyway, that this was back in
the Teddy Roosevelt era and a lot of other reforms
(51:35):
that again we take for granted were put in place
because of it's similar in California too. The initiative, referendum
and recall process became constitutional because there had to be
a constitutional convention in California to fix the corruption. And
(51:58):
I'm thinking that what we're going to need to see
to fix all of this mess that's been caused as
much of a radical shake up that they're doing, there's
going to need to be a radical reinvention. So, you know,
I hate to say again, you know we're we're sitting
(52:20):
in a bunch of lemons, but I'm hoping there's an
opportunity to make real lemonade and make things even better
than they were in the before because it's been a
long erosion of the New Deal and it's been an aggressive,
(52:41):
aggressively thought after but you know, there's been resistance. But
this has undone the New Deal in so many ways,
and what we needed was a new new Deal and
new Vaue New Deal and Neo New Deal. I know
you heard it here first, but.
Speaker 10 (53:03):
Well we'll see. So what's the changes in the cabinet.
What about Trump's promise to protect to protect medicaid?
Speaker 11 (53:23):
What we already know is are not worth the paper
of the wristhot.
Speaker 10 (53:30):
Yeah, well, maybe maybe we should come on the show
and for this segment we should think promises, promises, all
the time, promises.
Speaker 11 (53:42):
There's another song. First to say you will, then you won't,
then you say you did, then you don't. It's an
old song. It wasn't my era.
Speaker 10 (53:51):
But what era? Wait a minute, what era is your era?
I don't know how old you.
Speaker 11 (54:02):
I'm sixty one, so so you're I'm the seventies baby.
I'm at the end of the baby boom. I'm and
I'm on the cusp of the baby boom, so at
the end. So even though they consider me baby boomer,
really my time period was the generation became after, which
(54:25):
is one act. Yeah, yeah, which which i'd like to
rename because of mister Rack. There is.
Speaker 10 (54:36):
There's that wonderful book, which unfortunately I don't have in
front of me, so of course I won't remember the
title of it. Well, the front page doesn't say Tory door.
Don't split on the floor, use the cuspit door. And
(54:59):
that's what it's for, you know, I wonder if I
should get I wonder if I should get extra money
for singing these songs. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 11 (55:18):
It'll be text it'll be if you get it. That
was the lyrics to the song I was quoting It's
Undecided by Elaphitzgerald.
Speaker 10 (55:29):
Oh, I didn't even know you're And you're trying to say,
and you're trying to say, that's your generation. Huh.
Speaker 11 (55:36):
And I know I'm trying to say, it's not my generation.
I don't even think that's my parents' generation.
Speaker 10 (55:43):
It would be, it would be, it would be, it
would be your parents what if?
Speaker 11 (55:50):
Okay, yeah, but it's a great song. It it really
is the Trump theme song if you if it goes
first you say you do, you don't, and then you
say you will, and then you won't. You're undecided now,
so what are you going to do? Now? You want
to play and it's and then it's no, and then
you and when you say you'll stay, that's when you
(56:13):
go you're undecided.
Speaker 5 (56:14):
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Speaker 11 (56:15):
I guess it's about a relationship, but it really it
really fits what we're going through right now. The unofficial
Trump themes song here. Well, okay, sorry, but I digress.
Speaker 10 (56:39):
No, he through me all. We were talking about medicaid, right,
well am about two to Strea minutes the left for
the show. Trump promised to protect medicaid. They're already picking
at it. Yeah, they are already picking at it. And
(57:04):
by the bye, just a side note social Security as well.
I don't know. I don't know from low income people
what they're going to do, you know, because if they
cut it, it's not like they're going to come to
(57:24):
California and say, hey, we're going to cut your medicaid.
They're going to cut it at the federal level. Right,
And in some ways you could say California is less
of a problem than other places, but the reality is
(57:50):
that's not true. Yeah, I don't know. It's the whole
thing is very scary, very scary, right, I mean, I
(58:18):
mean like, I'm very lucky. I haven't had a care.
I don't think you do yet, but maybe you do.
Speaker 11 (58:26):
And she just became eligible on that and getting it.
Speaker 10 (58:32):
And I get blue shield from you know, my retirement
from the state. You know, we had blue Cross for years,
but they switched us the blue Shield.
Speaker 17 (58:57):
Well, this will definitely affect, oh, for for certain Chris
and people.
Speaker 11 (59:10):
Who voted for the plas.
Speaker 10 (59:14):
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We're going to cover a bunch of stuff today if
we get to it. So, Chris, how are you?
Speaker 11 (07:39):
I'm good. I'm enjoying this weather Too's it's a nice
day in the.
Speaker 10 (07:43):
I E you there, Powell.
Speaker 11 (07:50):
Yeah, can you hear me? Can you hear me? Eric?
Speaker 10 (07:55):
Is that that you hear? Chris?
Speaker 12 (07:58):
Hear me?
Speaker 11 (08:00):
I'm here, Hello, asked.
Speaker 10 (08:02):
For the question mark at the hand of that sentence.
Speaker 12 (08:11):
Hello, I'm here, Eric, Eric, Hello.
Speaker 13 (09:25):
Bo.
Speaker 14 (10:35):
In le coasting, basting, basting, basting.
Speaker 10 (11:57):
It's a stone Bill wouldn't following you? And uh, I
hear that. Chris is here. I don't know if Eric's
with us yet, But all right, Chris, I don't know
how far we got with that.
Speaker 11 (12:18):
You had introduced me and I was speaking, but you
couldn't hear me for some reason. I could hear you clear.
Speaker 10 (12:26):
Oh, maybe you should stop whispering.
Speaker 11 (12:32):
I've never been accused of whispering.
Speaker 10 (12:35):
That's all right, So let's get this going here. Trump
did another backflip this past week with all his talk about,
(12:55):
you know, threatening Canada and what have you. All of
a sudden he went back to he backed off from that.
What do you think about that? Well?
Speaker 11 (13:15):
I think you said it in your in your opening
up the question, which is he's done that again. Every
indication is he's under pressure from his own inner circle
as well as all the major business people that at
least have some form of communication with him, that these
(13:38):
tars were a bad idea. And now they're trying to
Now the White House. When I say they, I've not
the White House, but really it's Trump is they're trying
to figure out a way to gracefully get out of
this without admitting any wrongdoing. You know, of course he's
big on blaming other people, but this is all on
(13:59):
his doorstep. And I'm ready to put a bumper sticker
saying paying high prices it's a Trump tax, because that's
what it is, Trump tack.
Speaker 10 (14:14):
Yeah. No, I know you sent me a copy of
your draft of that. Well I don't. I don't honestly
know what to make of this whole thing with Trump
(14:37):
and taxes and you know, raising tariff tariffs on Canada.
I mean, I don't get it.
Speaker 11 (14:55):
Well, it's I have not read his book, The Art
of the Deal.
Speaker 10 (15:03):
Don't worry, don't worry.
Speaker 11 (15:08):
Yes, but but this is this seems to be his
his mo. You you attack, you put your opponent on
the defensive and force them into a weakened position to negotiate.
The problem is, and if any if anybody ever takes
international relations one oh one or or any kind of
(15:32):
first level international government course, the the world does not
operate in the same way that the US operates internally
or businesses operate internally. So I was just waiting to
see this thing fall apart, and it already has it
(15:54):
almost immediately. You cannot He is out of his league.
This is an internet national trade negotiations, and his bully
tactics are not working people. He's lied and said he's
gotten calls from China, and he's gotten calls from other countries,
(16:15):
but every report has been there's been no calls, So
it hasn't worked. And if anything, it's thrown the international
market since it's busy up and down, back and forth.
Not that that's unusual in and of itself sometimes, but
it's unusually worse this time. And basically his style is
(16:41):
inappropriate and does not work at a presidential level. It's
fine if you're in New York and negotiating construction of
a building, or you're in New Jersey trying to negotiate
a hotel. It does not work on the international stage.
He's out of his league and he's getting played. We
(17:02):
all know he's being played by had been played by Putin,
and and he's come to some realization of that too.
That was the topic you talked about. But basically he
is in the net government leader. I won't say whether
he was a good business leader. I have my doubts,
but I don't have that experience. Ex I have him
(17:25):
as a government leader, and he is.
Speaker 10 (17:30):
Wanting. Well, he's wanting in multiple ways. When you think
about that word, right, I mean he's.
Speaker 11 (17:40):
Just yeah, yeah, hmm.
Speaker 10 (17:48):
Well, I guess we'll see where this goes. But it's
really not working in his direction.
Speaker 11 (18:02):
But it's also interesting the results of the Canadian elections
and the Australian elections. What is it that the people
of those countries know that we didn't know about Trump
as the leader, or perhaps I'll be kind and say
(18:25):
that they've at least seen him for the first hundred
days in action and decided that their countries did not
want that kind of chaos. Unfortunately, our voters, not the majority,
but enough to get him elected in certain states. I
(18:47):
really believed that he was going to fix the economy. Well,
he fixed it right, he fixed it to the point
where it's going to take a lot to repair. It's
like it's like calling letting. I think there's that Let's
the TEP show everybody Loves Raymond where the where the
(19:08):
father keeps coming in to fix the fix the washing
machine and the refrigerator and makes it worse and then
it costs that much more to get the expert to
come and fix it. That's the situation I think we're in.
Speaker 10 (19:21):
Yeah, I agree with you. I agree with you. I
think Trump is not having a good start to his
second term period. I just think he doesn't. You know,
everything is kind of going away from him.
Speaker 11 (19:46):
You know, part of me, I mean, it's it's total
another chaos. It's a lot of destruction of what Americans
have come to expect from government in spite of the
rhetoric anti government concepts and ideas. But everybody has has
(20:08):
been comfortable and has relied on so security, medicare, safe
water to drink, safe air, many of these things, and
now people are starting to find out and it's one
of those you had to get a kick them in
the butt to realize you've had a good all these years.
(20:28):
It wasn't bad in spite of what people told you,
and you might have believed, it's actually been good. And
now we're starting to feel the same. And you know,
it's one of those who it's going to get worse
before it gets better. And part of me is okay
with that. I wish we didn't have to go through it.
(20:49):
But the only way people realize that we had some
fantastic government services and wonderful employees at the government level,
just for them to have to miss it. And that's
some think go ahead, I'm sorry, No, no, go ahead.
(21:13):
I was going to say, I'm also glad, how inept? Well,
I'm you know this, this entire implementation of Project twenty
twenty five and DOGE in particular, has been so awful
that if we had somebody that was actually smart enough
to carry out those policies, it would be a lot scarier.
Speaker 10 (21:41):
Yeah. Well, his uh, his boy who was running DOGE
just made a fool of themselves.
Speaker 11 (21:51):
Yeah, it's true, yep, yep. And they don't even agree
on the teriffs. It's comical. It's you know, if somebody
had written this as as a book in a movie
everyone ten years ago, everyone would have said this is
(22:13):
so absurd it could never happen. That's how absurd and
ridiculous it is in real life.
Speaker 10 (22:21):
Yeah, no, I think you're right, Chris So one of
his critical important go forth was banning transgender people from
the military. Oh yeah, so he finally got a tentative
(22:45):
approval from the Supreme Court yesterday. And it doesn't make
him I mean, it doesn't make sense. First of all,
it's not like they said, don't go forward. They wouldn't
(23:08):
say that, you know, it's it's it's a tentative shame.
I don't know.
Speaker 15 (23:26):
Well, I'm I'm worried that the majority on the Supreme
Court is going to look at this as the president
is is the.
Speaker 11 (23:42):
I'm sorry, it's just blank in the term that the
head of military, that there's a specific term.
Speaker 10 (23:47):
In commander in chief command, commander.
Speaker 11 (23:50):
And yes, command, I guess the word commander in Trump
in the same sentence was not something my brain would connect.
But yeah, that's that's that. You're right, And I'm afraid
because the president does have commanded in chiefs, yeah, control
(24:11):
that they're going to refer to that.
Speaker 10 (24:16):
Well, they may they they they they may, and they
may not.
Speaker 11 (24:22):
Well I hope not a report that it's like zero
point zero two percent of the of the population in
the military that are transgender, and many of them are outstanding.
Not that they're not all outstanding, but some are so outstanding, and.
Speaker 16 (24:45):
It would be a tragedy for the safety of.
Speaker 11 (24:49):
Our country if they were to be if they were
to be forced out. It's just absurd. It has you
know that they they want to eliminates the I and
DEI is is not pall. Not what they say is
(25:11):
at all. They just use the acronym to mean other
people that that uh MEGA doesn't like.
Speaker 10 (25:18):
But well, I mean the problem, the problem is is
that people like you and me, we don't fit the
MAGA criteria. Yeah, you know your last name is Roldles.
(25:40):
What do I say about that?
Speaker 13 (25:47):
You know?
Speaker 10 (25:48):
I mean, I don't know what to say.
Speaker 11 (25:52):
Yeah, yeah, I mean these people get that our transgender
and in the military currently have reached those positions because
they're outstanding at what they did.
Speaker 17 (26:07):
I would think so suggest otherwise, Yeah.
Speaker 11 (26:10):
To suggests, I mean, how do you. I believe there
was one and I cannot remember all the details, but
one is a fighter pilot and they there is no
way that the military would bend anything for a fighter pilot.
(26:31):
They just wouldn't bend any rules. So obviously this person
is just highly qualified. And to suggest otherwise or to
kick them out a third right there, I say it's
Germany of the thirties, the thirties, early forties. I mean,
(26:52):
if you can't parallel is there, you cannot avoid it.
Speaker 10 (26:58):
Well, this kind of goes along with how this guy thinks,
you know, let's be real.
Speaker 11 (27:05):
Yeah, well thinks or or or is using a scapegoat. Right,
the transgender population even of the United States is so minimal.
Speaker 10 (27:24):
Well, that's the thing, that's what always poses.
Speaker 11 (27:31):
Yeah, they pose no danger to any other person. They
certainly don't pose a danger to as and and this
is what they say, right the morality or or what
have you, of others, that they don't pose any danger
to anybody. If anything, they're always in danger as a minority,
(27:53):
community or individuals. And for them to be singled out
like this.
Speaker 16 (28:01):
Is the opposite of what every religion, every religion teaches,
every religion.
Speaker 11 (28:13):
Does not teach. You attack a minority and you persecute
them all.
Speaker 10 (28:24):
And did you did you grow up Catholic?
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I did? I did, And I'm practicing I'll tell you
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(28:49):
on the side note, if we don't get somebody similar,
I think I and many other people what was going
to considering, But that's not on your your topics today.
But since we saw black smoke earlier this afternoon, I
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Speaker 10 (29:12):
Well. Another another friend of mine is talking about becoming Episcopalian.
Speaker 11 (29:22):
Now, are there practicing Catholic right now?
Speaker 10 (29:29):
Yes?
Speaker 11 (29:31):
Hm, I don't. I don't know if I would do that.
I don't know what I'm I would do. I just
for for many years, many of my adult years, and
I went to Catholic school. I went to about high
school in Los Angeles, Loyola, and I just didn't practice.
(29:53):
I just stayed away.
Speaker 10 (29:56):
Well, you know what they say, practice makes perfect ladies
and gentlemen, Oh no, you will come back, keep your thought. Yeah,
Pope Francis was a terrific guy, that's for sure. Miss
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Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. This is Eric Fowman, host
of The Uncommon Sense Democrat right here on NBC Radio CASECAA,
and I'm joined today by Chris Roebliss, who is a
political consultant and previously was multiple tours the chair of
(35:03):
the San Bernardino County Democratic Party. So with all of
that aside, we kind of cut off in the middle
of a sentence. So Chris, did you want to finish
what you were about to say or did you get
(35:26):
enough of it out?
Speaker 11 (35:28):
No, I got enough of it that we can move on.
I'm good.
Speaker 10 (35:33):
Well, that's the question I would have to ask your wife.
I don't know that she would agree. All of this
chaos that Trump has created. What kind of damage has
it done to us businesses already?
Speaker 11 (35:59):
Well, right now they're in the place of torture on
the limbo and you hear them speaking up and then yeah,
there maybe one or two industries businesses out there that
have said, oh, the tarriff is going to help me,
But I think the vast majority and you can hear
(36:21):
them on NPR as long as it's still funded and
some of the more normal news outlets, these businesses are
talking about a massive impact that they're expected. And the
whole point, the big, big reason for doing these tariffs
(36:45):
is to force really that's the words they're not using,
but it really is to force the economy, force the country,
force business people, investors to start production in the United
States the things that were done overseas. The problem with
(37:08):
that is everyone has said slot out it. It takes
four years or more to bring some of these industries back,
if you even want to.
Speaker 10 (37:20):
As it or not.
Speaker 11 (37:21):
We have a global economy and I know a lot
of people don't like it. I get it, and a
lot of people, our friends and labor don't like it.
I get it. I think the biggest mistake over the
course of the last three or four presidencies, as this
global economy was ramping up, was that there was no
(37:44):
investment in people. This is my personal opinion and as
a former vocational education teacher at Elie Unified, the big
mistake was not investing in people right, and what needed
to happen is as jobs disappeared, as industries changed, and yes,
some disappeared, but others showed up as these things happened,
(38:07):
there needed to be an investment, the kind of which
we saw after World War Two, when people returned from
the war and needed to be trained into jobs or
given opportunities for education. That investment never happened. There were
piecemeal attempts, but in California, the entire vocational education program
(38:35):
was decimated by a Democratic governor who decided that the
category what are called categorical funds. Basically, they are funds
that are set aside specifically for specific programs or a category.
Those categorical funds that had established since the seventies and
(38:57):
into the eighties and carried us all the way in
the two thousands vocational training in California. Because the K
through twelve programs were hurting, they said, oh, just go
ahead and free those up. They'll just free them up. So,
of course, the K through twelve gobbled up all that
funding and all those categories, which ironically served the very
(39:21):
parents of the kids who were in the K through
twelve programs. Right, So a lot of those kids who
would go home through empty refrigerators and cupboards because parents
were having problems making ends meet. Those parents could have
had great jobs and skilled jobs, had those programs continued
(39:46):
and the failure to see how everything connects in which
is also the failure of people who don't see a
global economy, as there's no way around it at this point.
But failing to see how everything is interconnected and accepting
that and wanting to go back to what forties and
(40:07):
fifties is ridiculous. And anyway, that's my take on the whole.
Speaker 10 (40:15):
You when you when you were talking about a Democrat
and you're thinking about Reagan.
Speaker 11 (40:21):
No no, no, no governor No Governor Brown, Jerry Brown.
It was in two thousand. It was two thousand and eight.
I understand, you know there was an economic downturn and
what have you. But he he allowed the and that
had never happened before. And we had other economic issues
in California. It's always been a roller coaster in California.
(40:45):
But he was the first and only governor that freed
up the categorical funds and there was a fantastic there
were programs. I am in awe of what I participated in.
I'm in awe of the people who designed it. Basically
(41:06):
at my parents' age. It's people that were twenty to
thirty years older than I who designed the system in
at least that I saw in Southern California between the
community colleges, LA Community Colleges and the LA Unified, And
I'm sure there were similar things here in the IV.
(41:28):
And they put programs together that just it absorbed a
lot of the problems that could have been devastating when
the aerospace industry left Southern California, because that was about
the time I was in my twenties, that was about
the time that I started working for the district and
(41:49):
I saw that and we had the programs. Albeit they
weren't big enough, but they were, but they were large
enough and they were in place that it did help
soften the blow of losing that industry. Yeah, and it
(42:10):
was and and that, but there was an investment. I mean,
whether it was purposeful for that problem, I would debate
it wasn't. It just happened to be in place. And
so if it worked and everybody focused on it, and right,
and I had opportunities for all of those displaced workers.
(42:31):
There's nothing now and so so go tying it back
to the the terroriffs aren't the answer for it. It's
it's ridiculous. The build back better is a better concept.
For better policy of investing money in getting businesses to
start manufacturing here then doing a tariff. It's absurd, it's
(42:56):
it's common sense. You don't even have to be an
economy or taken an economy class to realize that a
terror of which is attacked is not going to stimulate
new businesses to grow. If anything, it will steiny existing businesses.
The way you stimulate new businesses, which this country has
(43:17):
done since almost its founding, is you invest in the
infrastructure of it. I always love to point out the railroads,
regardless of the robber barons and all of that, the
structure of the railroads in this country, the stabilization of it,
because if anyone recalled their elementary school history, the early
(43:43):
railroads were all different ages. That's the width of the tracts.
It was the government that put in standards in place
that allowed for that industry and that infrastructure to grow,
and then in a widespread investment to have so across
the country and expand that. The model is practically what
(44:07):
they used for the Internet and for the interstate highway system.
That's investment. That's what you need, not what we're getting now.
Speaker 10 (44:20):
What we're getting, well, I think I think that there's
a whole bunch of bs and saying that charging the
tariffs is gonna bring in money to the country. It's
an absurdity.
Speaker 11 (44:39):
Absolutely.
Speaker 10 (44:41):
All right, well, let's let's move on to the next topic.
What about the cabinet changes and sub cabinet changes. And
we're starting to see all of a sudden, is that
unique to Trump? Is that something we normally fact.
Speaker 11 (45:04):
Not in the first hundred days, you don't expect it.
That definitely is unique to Trump and to the four
choices that were made.
Speaker 10 (45:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (45:16):
Usually usually it's the towards the the it might be
a mid change over after after the midterm elections. Usually
you want things you'll you'll see things are are stable.
As a president, you want things to be stable. So
even if somebody wants to leave or you want them
(45:38):
to leave, you don't let them do it until after
the mid terms, so that everything things bestin show kind
of look, and then then maybe you might make some
changes afterwards. But after the as you get closer to
the to the end of your first four years, that's
(46:00):
not necessarily the situation here, but this is this is
what you usually find is that at the end of
your your first term, and you want to go for
a second, you do the same thing. You you don't
want a lot of changes. When you see the shifts
and changes are immediately after the election and the and
the swearing in. Then you start to see people leaving,
(46:24):
replacements coming in, so on and so forth. Uh, there's
always exceptions, but but that's generally how it's been in
the modern presidency in my lifetime. What we're seeing here
is typical Trump incompetent people put in place no checks
(46:44):
and balances because the Republican Senate refuses to take that on.
And you get people that give away secrets, secret invasion
information on to reporters on a unauthorized on a flip drive. Yeah,
(47:08):
I mean, it's just it's it's insane. So uh, you know,
Trump will never admit any wrongdoing her mistakes. He can't.
It's not his personality show of weakness. What's really weak
is when you can't say you're you're making and you
continue to do to make the same mistake. So all
(47:31):
he's doing is rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
I waited for that one, just for an opening for
that one.
Speaker 10 (47:43):
What what about just just on a slight shift here
to an angle. What about Marjorie Taylor Greens saying she's
not gonna let Trump push her around anymore?
Speaker 11 (47:59):
That one, I haven't I hadn't heard that.
Speaker 10 (48:02):
Oh yeah, this was this is a big this is
a big announcement from last night.
Speaker 11 (48:12):
Uh, I missed that one.
Speaker 10 (48:15):
I wonder what that's all about. H I wonder what
that's all.
Speaker 11 (48:24):
Yeah, yeah, I'm just checking it out right now, see
if there's anything I can pick up on. But now
most of it has been her or she's the share
of a committee and she's just absolutely horrendous, rude, obnoxious, unprofessional.
(48:49):
What more could I say about about it? That's what's
predominantly all over the internet.
Speaker 10 (48:56):
Do you know what?
Speaker 11 (48:57):
The first question?
Speaker 10 (48:58):
Do you know what? The first question one passover is No,
I don't monish Tannah Elilah has Why is this night
different from all other knights? When you and when you
(49:18):
come to Marjorie Taylor and Green, she's as foss as
they get. But she and he are perfect mate and
I thought they'd probably end up getting married, you know.
Speaker 11 (49:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (49:43):
All right? Oh, now, cash Ftel says what Trump and
Republicans are planning to put in a budget for I
don't know if it's for the FBI or what the
hell is for. There's not enough money to run the SBI. No,
(50:07):
you guys, if you guys, wait a minute, you guys
are the ones who've cut the money.
Speaker 11 (50:13):
That's right, that's right, you know they the firings are
bad enough, but the financial cut and we still haven't
seen exactly what their final budget is going to be.
But they're taking all the money they robbins for and
(50:35):
given to the wrist. There's no other way to look
at it exactly what it's all about. I just hope
that there's enoughing from that right uprising the kind we've
seen before, not not to the.
Speaker 15 (50:47):
Point of the Civil war, but but to the.
Speaker 11 (50:50):
Point of the last time there was a progressive movement
in the country where all of the bank regulations went
in place, and the anti tar I'm sorry, anti ah,
I know what you mean. Terror Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no,
I no, I was. It's it's an archaic term. It's
(51:13):
it's anti monopoly, but it's uh, that's the word. Darn it.
Oh my gosh, these days I have I have trouble
picking up I know, I know the words, but I
can't remember these things anyway, that this was back in
the Teddy Roosevelt era and a lot of other reforms
(51:35):
that again we take for granted were put in place
because of it's similar in California too. The initiative, referendum
and recall process became constitutional because there had to be
a constitutional convention in California to fix the corruption. And
(51:58):
I'm thinking that what we're going to need to see
to fix all of this mess that's been caused as
much of a radical shake up that they're doing, there's
going to need to be a radical reinvention. So, you know,
I hate to say again, you know we're we're sitting
(52:20):
in a bunch of lemons, but I'm hoping there's an
opportunity to make real lemonade and make things even better
than they were in the before because it's been a
long erosion of the New Deal and it's been an aggressive,
(52:41):
aggressively thought after but you know, there's been resistance. But
this has undone the New Deal in so many ways,
and what we needed was a new new Deal and
new Vaue New Deal and Neo New Deal. I know
you heard it here first, but.
Speaker 10 (53:03):
Well we'll see. So what's the changes in the cabinet.
What about Trump's promise to protect to protect medicaid?
Speaker 11 (53:23):
What we already know is are not worth the paper
of the wristhot.
Speaker 10 (53:30):
Yeah, well, maybe maybe we should come on the show
and for this segment we should think promises, promises, all
the time, promises.
Speaker 11 (53:42):
There's another song. First to say you will, then you won't,
then you say you did, then you don't. It's an
old song. It wasn't my era.
Speaker 10 (53:51):
But what era? Wait a minute, what era is your era?
I don't know how old you.
Speaker 11 (54:02):
I'm sixty one, so so you're I'm the seventies baby.
I'm at the end of the baby boom. I'm and
I'm on the cusp of the baby boom, so at
the end. So even though they consider me baby boomer,
really my time period was the generation became after, which
(54:25):
is one act. Yeah, yeah, which which i'd like to
rename because of mister Rack. There is.
Speaker 10 (54:36):
There's that wonderful book, which unfortunately I don't have in
front of me, so of course I won't remember the
title of it. Well, the front page doesn't say Tory door.
Don't split on the floor, use the cuspit door. And
(54:59):
that's what it's for, you know, I wonder if I
should get I wonder if I should get extra money
for singing these songs. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 11 (55:18):
It'll be text it'll be if you get it. That
was the lyrics to the song I was quoting It's
Undecided by Elaphitzgerald.
Speaker 10 (55:29):
Oh, I didn't even know you're And you're trying to say,
and you're trying to say, that's your generation. Huh.
Speaker 11 (55:36):
And I know I'm trying to say, it's not my generation.
I don't even think that's my parents' generation.
Speaker 10 (55:43):
It would be, it would be, it would be, it
would be your parents what if?
Speaker 11 (55:50):
Okay, yeah, but it's a great song. It it really
is the Trump theme song if you if it goes
first you say you do, you don't, and then you
say you will, and then you won't. You're undecided now,
so what are you going to do? Now? You want
to play and it's and then it's no, and then
you and when you say you'll stay, that's when you
(56:13):
go you're undecided.
Speaker 5 (56:14):
Now.
Speaker 11 (56:15):
I guess it's about a relationship, but it really it
really fits what we're going through right now. The unofficial
Trump themes song here. Well, okay, sorry, but I digress.
Speaker 10 (56:39):
No, he through me all. We were talking about medicaid, right,
well am about two to Strea minutes the left for
the show. Trump promised to protect medicaid. They're already picking
at it. Yeah, they are already picking at it. And
(57:04):
by the bye, just a side note social Security as well.
I don't know. I don't know from low income people
what they're going to do, you know, because if they
cut it, it's not like they're going to come to
(57:24):
California and say, hey, we're going to cut your medicaid.
They're going to cut it at the federal level. Right,
And in some ways you could say California is less
of a problem than other places, but the reality is
(57:50):
that's not true. Yeah, I don't know. It's the whole
thing is very scary, very scary, right, I mean, I
(58:18):
mean like, I'm very lucky. I haven't had a care.
I don't think you do yet, but maybe you do.
Speaker 11 (58:26):
And she just became eligible on that and getting it.
Speaker 10 (58:32):
And I get blue shield from you know, my retirement
from the state. You know, we had blue Cross for years,
but they switched us the blue Shield.
Speaker 17 (58:57):
Well, this will definitely affect, oh, for for certain Chris
and people.
Speaker 11 (59:10):
Who voted for the plas.
Speaker 10 (59:14):
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Democrat right here on NBC Radio KPAA. We hope you
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