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Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. This is Eric Baumann, host
to the Uncommon Sense Democrat right here on NBC Radio
CACAA on a lovely Wednesday afternoon, and we got a
lot to talk about, and I'm not sure we can
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and of course by my always present engineer, eric O Sirio.
So let's hit it right off. Chris, what do you
think about these ultra conservatives arising up against Trump?
Speaker 11 (07:11):
It is fascinating to watch the implosion there. Yes, I'm here.
Can you hear me? I'm here? Like I got him,
I'm here, can you hear me? Eric? Hello? Hey, Chris,
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why don't you continue with your thought?
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And I'm going to fix Eric's hearing issue?
Speaker 11 (07:38):
Gotcha? Thank you? So, yes, the administration's having problems keeping
everyone in alignment because they have bullied people in the past.
Trump has always bullied people in the past to get
his way, and you know, always had various success on that.
The real issue is that how long is that going
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to work. We've got the midterm elections. That is where
everyone is focusing. Midterm elections, And so you have these
Republicans that are ultra conservative and want far far extreme
provisions in this big beautiful bill of prompts. But there's
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another contingency of Republicans that are in New York and
California specifically, but also across the country that are in
seats that could easily turn democratics and they're panicked about
losing because of the draconian cuts by this big beautiful bill.
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And so you have these ultraconservatives that want far far more,
and then you have the ones that are vulnerable who
want a little bit less, and there's a clash, and
the speaker is having a hell of the time trying
to balance all of these needs. And you know, here's
the thing, this is exactly how Congress is supposed to work.
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There's that old adage that politics is like making sausage,
and nobody wants to see it in action, as it's ugly.
But you know what, that's the beauty of the system.
And I get the people want things fast and easy,
you know, that's that's such an American culture thing. But
the truth is you don't want decisions to be made
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in a rush. That's how mistakes are made, that's how
things become devastating. And all you have to do is
look at the DOGE cuts in the way that they're
cutting the government with no plan. That is not good governance.
Good governance is taking your time and processing things and
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and more importantly, hearing from the public about what they
want and what they're willing to give up. So so so, so, Chris,
are you there, Yeah, I'm here.
Speaker 13 (10:16):
Oh, that's you talking, Okay, your your voice doesn't sound
like you usually do. So this whole thing is very
strange with these ultra conservatives rising up against Trump, you know,
he slept himself up to the hill yesterday. Try to
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convince them all to support him and his UH and
his nonsense. We'll just put it that way. And truth
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is the the the the ultra right wingers like the
Freedom Caucus, these guys don't care. They're not looking to
make Trump happy, period.
Speaker 11 (11:17):
No. No, Their their agenda is decimating government governments. And
then you know they're talking about eliminating any kind of debt.
The problem is that the uh three ends of dollars
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of additional debt that this bill would bring to the
governance and uh, the ultra conservatives they are, it's it's
a flash and burn mentality. There's nothing about helping people
in any of it. It's all about helping themself.
Speaker 13 (12:08):
Hm mm hmmm.
Speaker 11 (12:14):
Hello, mhmm.
Speaker 12 (12:17):
I think Eric Browlman's call drop, so he'll.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Be calling in shortly.
Speaker 11 (12:22):
Am I still on the Yeah, you're still on the air. Okay,
Well then I will fill in the best that I can. Yeah.
So you know, it's just it's it's an interesting thing
if if this is your your interest, it's it's an
interesting study on how minority groups in a legislative body
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can force the majority to their whims because in order
to past build you need to hit the you need
to hit the number of of votes, and it's always
counting votes. Everything is always counting votes. So it's interesting
to watch the holdouts and see how much they're accommodated.
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You know, it's ironic too, because it's the same problem
that Biden had in his first couple of years, and
there was one Senator that held out and prevented him
from getting his Build Back Better Bill. There's I guess
some synergy between the BBBS, the Big Beautiful Bill, and
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the Build Back Better build. It must be a reason
why they called a big Beautiful bill, and it was.
The Build Back Better was delayed a number of years,
which I think was problematic in terms of the economy.
People seeing the results of the economy and the implementation
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of a lot of that policy. And had that policy
been implemented sooner, I think people would have had a
better impression of Biden and the Biden administration going into
the election. Those delays caused a political problem. Hey, welcome back, Eric.
Speaker 13 (14:18):
Hey, guys, So the difference between Republicans and Democrats is
Republicans will just shut it down. Think about this for
a minute. The Republican tough guys in this case, like
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the Freedom concuss they'll just set it down. They don't care.
Democrats tend to be much softer than that. They tend
not to do that.
Speaker 11 (14:55):
So I think there's a almost a philosophical difference, and
it stems from what you believe the point of government is.
And Democrats believe that government's there to do good by
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the people. And it comes it comes from the FDR
era of government is help there to help people, and
that's the whole point of it. And I think Republican's
whole point is that government's in their way, right. This
is the whole Reagan era thing.
Speaker 13 (15:37):
And Reagan told them. Reagan told them that government is bad,
not good exactly.
Speaker 11 (15:48):
Government, government is the problem and and and Democrats never
pushed back on that, not in a successful way ever.
And I firmly believe the government is always a solution anything.
Big corporations, small corporations, government, big government, small government, can
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anything can be a problem. There's no there's nothing that's perfect,
but there are many times. The Space program is a
perfect example of where government and only government could lead
to the success, and that it benefited millions of people
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in the country. FDRs programs, social Security is one of
those and instead of focusing on the successes the Democrats,
focusing on those successes, we have seceded or seeded is
maybe the right word, the argument that somehow government's bad.
And I remember, having worked in the Clinton administration that
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although he was successful in taking on many of the
issues that the Republicans and he co opted them very successfully.
You know, there's a lot of pushback to the to
those policies today, especially by the progressive you know, they
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were popular at that time, but it did concede that
somehow there were problems with government, and I don't I
think there are numerous places that people can point to
to show that government works. And that argument we have lost.
And if we don't start pushing back on that argument
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in the holistic sense, then we're going to keep losing
to the minority registered group of Republicans because they do
not have they do not have the majority a voter
of this country.
Speaker 13 (18:05):
It's right, that's right. Well, look, I think the fact
that these three Republicans had a hutzpah to stand up
the Trump is in and of itself is amazing. I mean,
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they may give give in Tonight when they meet with
them at the Whitehouse, they might chip Roy is not
given in. I don't think, but you know, who knows
what the others.
Speaker 11 (18:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 13 (18:41):
I guess we'll see.
Speaker 11 (18:44):
Well. And when you were off the year for a second,
I brought up the point that they're they're the swing
district Republicans, some of some from Warren County that will
lose re seat if it's two konium. And if this
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small group of ultraconservatives get some of the things that
they want, there's going to be a problem for these
other Republicans and they're going to push back. So that's
the tap dance that Johnson's having to make seer well.
Speaker 13 (19:24):
I mean personally, the more they fight with each other,
the happier I am. And no, I mean I mean
that seriously, and I don't mean that facetiously, but it's true.
You know, I try to be cautious about what I
say and how I say it. But these guys are
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off the clock, you know, particularly this group. So I
guess we're going to see what happens. But m hmm,
all right, well we'll be back with that. I'm sure
we'll have some more time for that. At the end.
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This is a little frightening to me. The Department of
Justice has ended all of its police reforms that it's
signed with Louisville in Minneapolis in the wake of the
tragedies that happened there, and there doesn't seem to be
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there doesn't seem to be much place for them to
go to. So I don't know what's going to happen
with that.
Speaker 11 (20:53):
Yeah, you know, this ends many more Department of Justice
Civil Rights Division initiatives. It's just a matter of time,
and they're just going to end all of these things,
regardless of the good that they have, the good outcomes
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that they've they've been pushing. It's just it's flat out racism.
But once again, the Trump speak that they're very good
at spending this and this whole reverse discrimination thing, people
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believe it and buy into it. And I've had a
regurgitated back from from back to me by many people
who believe that DEI is is bad policy, and then
when you question them, they don't even know what it
really means. They know the words, but that's it.
Speaker 13 (22:03):
And uh, you know, I used I used to.
Speaker 11 (22:06):
I used to.
Speaker 13 (22:09):
When I was working on the ACA which, by the way,
if you're interested, I have a signed copy of sitting
on my shelf, my bookshelf.
Speaker 11 (22:24):
You know.
Speaker 13 (22:24):
I would say to people, go.
Speaker 11 (22:27):
Ahead, no, no, no, I was interested in the book.
Oh continue, Yeah, So.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
I would say that.
Speaker 13 (22:47):
I used to ask the audience, so, how do you
feel about care, you know, care for kids with pre
existing conditions, kids and others. And I would always say, oh, yeah,
that's great. You know, how do you feel about us providing.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Care for.
Speaker 13 (23:15):
Whatever it was? And I would go through all the
parts of the ACA and people would say, oh, yeah,
that's great, that's just what we need. And I would say,
you realize you're supporting the ACA. People never integrated the
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two together.
Speaker 11 (23:40):
Now again, it's that we're terrible. Then. When I say we,
I mean Democrats were terrible at explaining things. There are
numerous incidences where people when when they come out of
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voting centers get interviewed and they asked them, you know,
to have your vote on this bill or proposition or whatever.
People will say, oh, I voted against that, and then
they said then people the reporter will explain what the
bill does and they'll say no, it doesn't, and they say, oh, yeah,
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it doesn't. They'll show it to them, right, and then
people say, oh, I didn't realize that. I said, yeah
that The reporter will say, yeah, it has an effect
on you. You get social Security, you get these benefits. Right,
oh yeah, yeah, well I didn't know that. Can I
go And then they'll say, can I go back in
and change my vote? People? Yeah, it's it's or welling
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in language right that they're very good at the at
the short language to explain things. People will People don't
look at anything deeper than what they see on the Instagram,
and they get sold to Bill Goods. Right. I mean
how many times have you and I have heard people say, well,
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I voted for Trump, but I didn't vote for this
with all these cuts, especially to two to the veterans
people did. People didn't expect all of them, and I don't.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Think we all we.
Speaker 13 (25:30):
Go ahead.
Speaker 11 (25:30):
I'm sorry, no, I was finished. It doesn't speak well
for me for people's interests in government. That you know,
people need to uh to educate themselves, but they don't
do it.
Speaker 13 (25:46):
So the things we have to worry about big picture,
so security funding, Medicare and Medicaid funding. Right, think of
about this. There was one more O veterans funding M.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Right.
Speaker 13 (26:11):
I mean you know here everybody's talking about, oh, we
honor the veterans and this, that and the other. No
we don't. We don't honor them, and in fact, in
a lot of ways we dishonor them. So we got
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a lot of stuff ahead of us. But I think
our job, and this is very odd, but I think
our job, Chris, is to make sure that Democrats understand
that we're not trying to be as people. We're trying
to make sure that people know what they're doing, what
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they're talking about. You know, when you listen to these
people who say, these people who say, oh, well you
know that that's the ACA. That's not something I want, Well,
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damn it, that is something that is something you want.
Speaker 11 (27:34):
Oh actually that that was one of the one of
the interviews that where the guy wanted to vote. He
was against Obamacare, right, That's exactly what it was now
that I remember. Yeah, he was against Obamacare. And then
they said that that was the Affordable Care Act and
do you get the benefits from him? And he says,
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oh yeah, and then realized that he was voting against
himself his own health interest. People don't know the distinction.
They just use these terms of derision and people don't
explore it any deeper. They're absolutely right, Eric.
Speaker 13 (28:18):
Yeah, well, we're gonna have some fun stuff in the
next segment. I think it's fun, especially when you hear
these morons try to explain away what they're doing. We're
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almost we're almost at break time. Well, I think we've
got a lot to cover still and and hopefully our
open discussion period at the end will give us time
to cover more of it. And this is Eric Bauman,
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Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. This is there a common
host of the uncommon sense Democrat right here at NBC Radio.
CACAA got quite an agenda today as our friends in
Washington seem to be running us around the track. So
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we just finished talking about having a brief conversation about
the Justice Department withdrawing from the police reform activity in
Louisville and Minneapolis. Now it's time to talk about the
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idiots running out our country. And you know that's not
a respect that's not a respectful way to say it,
but it is a fact. It is a fact. So
let me give you a few examples so you'll know
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what I'm talking about. Linda McMahon, who is this alleged
secretary of Education, says we need more a one in
our schools, as in like a one sauce. Trump says
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he can't find the congo. But my favorite of all
is our Homeland Security secretary known trying to explain a
habeas corpus a reporter and she says, this is a
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special law that gives the president the right to remove
people from the United States. Now, if you know anything
about habeas corpus, it's the exact opposite. It's what going
back to pre constitutional times gave people the right to
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gave people the right to break free from government coercion
and such. So this is where we land. And these
folks who are running our country are like totally out
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of it. They don't realize just how far off they are. So, Chris,
what are your thoughts about this whole thing?
Speaker 11 (36:08):
Well, I completely agree with you. They're incompetent. But this
isn't a surprise. During their hearings it was brought up
that they were incompetent. But in the first hundred days
has Trump had a lot of swaying Bush to get
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whatever he wanted. And you have to expect that most
of the senators, most of them these are you don't
get into the Senate because you're an idiot. You may
have differences of opinion on the point of government, but
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you were pretty much well invested in in an understanding
of what government does and how it works. So they
had to have held their noses to vote for these people.
These three that you just mentioned are are just the
three recent ones. This is an ongoing problem where many
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of the of the appointees, the Trump appointees that are
heading up departments, they're not there because they're experts in
there in the in the field that or department that
they're running. It's because they're loyalists and willing to dismantle
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the very agency for which they are running. And that's
the only reason. And I'm not going to apologize anymore
for bringing this up. It's precisely what Adolf Hitler did
as chancellor in the Weimar at that time, the Bymar
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Republic before it turned into a dictatorship, completely dismantling the
norms and the governance that was in place. This is
exactly the same thing. And the people he appointed. Hitler
appointed were loyalists, people that were willing to do whatever
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it took to move an agenda, not to And you know,
here's the thing, all of them, including Trump, take an
oath to the Constitution, not an oath to Trump. And
even just to round this out, Trump even said that
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he was unaware that he was supposed to uphold the Constitution.
It's in the darn oaths he took on inauguration day.
I will preserve, protecting, defend the Constitution of the United States.
It means nothing to these people. It's disgusting. And you know,
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these are funny things that aren't so funny as you
wointed out, Eric, and they do highlight the fact that
they're completely incompetent, But this is just a tiny fraction
of who they are that we get to see. And
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so that's why, you know, it gets highlighted because at
least it exposes the idiocy and the absurdity of their
running these departments. But it's sickening and disgusting that these
people are in charge. And most of these agencies are
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about are about, or had been up to this point,
about protecting citizens and of the United States, and now
they're dismantling it. And again, you know, going back to
the earlier segment, people the general population are oblivious to it,
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so that it's sad for all of us.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
Yeah, I don't know, there's there's a lot there's a
lot of talk about how.
Speaker 13 (40:36):
President Biden, or at least his people tried to cover
up his illness and how they went about it and
all this and that, and Jake Tapper's book. I mean,
Jake Capper is a great writer.
Speaker 7 (40:56):
But.
Speaker 13 (41:00):
There's a lot of conflicts in there, you know what
I mean, There's a lot of conflict in there.
Speaker 11 (41:08):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 13 (41:15):
Well, I guess we'll see what it really turns out
to be. But you know, now they're trying to blame
him for covering up Bose cancer, and.
Speaker 11 (41:27):
You know it, it's ridiculous, you know what I think?
Just people, go ahead, I'm sorry, go ahead, of.
Speaker 13 (41:35):
Course, just going to say, these people have no concept
of what's real or what's important.
Speaker 11 (41:44):
John Stewart amazes me so many times how intellectual the
man is. But he is very good at delivering breaking
things down and delivering a message that is easy to digest,
and quite honestly the person we need to turn to
for messaging. But anyway, watch last night's Daily Show because
(42:09):
he covers this, and you know, I used to respect
Jake Pepper. I may still respect Jake Pepper, but I
do not respect what he has done with this book.
And John Stewart just lays him out for the fact
that he keeps repeatedly pushing the book. Right, it's a
money making thing. I mean, that's what That's what people
(42:29):
need to realize is whatever the expos is, and through
or not through whatever it is, the whole point is
him publishing and selling a book. Jake Tapper. I'm sorry,
John Stewart keeps saying, well, if this is all news,
why do we have to buy your book? Shouldn't you,
(42:50):
as a newsperson have delivered this information and pull people
on the air and it. You know, it didn't even
occur to me about that, but he's absolutely right. If
you're commitmentis to the news and informing people, then you
should have done that. But instead he withheld to publish
(43:11):
a book to make money. And I think that's an
important context in all of this. That's that's part of it.
And of course the whole thing got derailed by the
announcement of Joe Biden's cancer, But bottom line is, why
are we why are we still talking about Joe Biden.
(43:32):
There is an obsession. Trump has an obsession, the same
one he had with Obama. Remember his first term, it
was all about comparing himself to Obama and making himself
look good. Any elementary school teacher will tell you that
people that put other people down is more saying more
(43:53):
about their frailties and insecurities than it is about whatever
they say. And so Trump is doing the very same thing.
I mean, it is a total obsession. Every time he
says something, it always is. And I'm better than Fite
in some way, shape or form, and I'm doing it
(44:16):
better than Biden. And every press release that comes out
of the White House is We're undoing the Biden administration XYZ,
whatever it was. They're obsessed by it. I don't know
how much tolerance. I guess people have a lot more
tolerance than I do for ridiculous comparisons like that. The
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poor man serves this country far better in a lifetime
than Donald Trump ever has or will, and he deserves
some peace. I don't want to hear any more about it, exactly.
(45:01):
The man should be left in teeth. He is definitely old,
and there are some health issues that he has, and
he and his family should be left alone. They have
been tormented, especially by Donald Trump and the set of
Republicans for decades. You know, the whole thing about his son.
(45:23):
I mean, it's ridiculous. It's the same thing of hey,
I'm sick of what was it said in one of
the debates. I'm tired of hearing about Hillary's emails. It's
the same thing. These people beat the stuff to beat
the dead worse, and there's nothing there. The chef is
but it's their rallying cry for their extremist supporters, I guess.
(45:50):
But it's such a disservice to human beings, let alone
a desservices of the country, which it absolutely is. It's
just a disservice to what it is to be human.
It's just the nastiest thing in the world. And you
know what I mean, Democrats, and maybe a couple of
Democrats would have done this, but I couldn't. I couldn't
(46:11):
tell you who. Democrats just don't do that. They just don't.
And maybe we lose because of that. But the bottom
line is that nasty rhetoric is evil and I'm just
tired of it. And I hope the general populace finally
(46:34):
gets sick of it too. It's like, who cares. The
man's not an office anymore, but I'm not here. Who cares?
Speaker 13 (46:46):
I think you're right, my friend trying. I think there
was something else I want to ask you before. Oh,
let's talk a little bit about the local stuff. Few
Kuiper residents and Ontario.
Speaker 11 (47:06):
Oh, the local Oh yeah, I could do a whole
show on that, but very quickly it so locally here
in the county of timber Dadino. The residents will talk
about Kaypa first. So there was a recall and it
was successful, and it was one person in particular in
(47:28):
one they have districts, so in one district seat, it's
the district I can't remember the number, but it's the
district that about the foothills, literally in the foothills. And
the city had this lofty plan and it's a very
complicated story, so I won't go into the details, but
(47:50):
they had a plan of putting some kind of vineyard thing.
They wanted to do a mini Tebencula out there, and
the residents were able to remove that council member and
put somebody else in. There seems to be some kind
of financial issue with the city and it's a it's
a you know, you would call it a bedroom community,
but it's not a bedroom community because it's more of
(48:11):
a retirement when a lot of people retire and buy
their's dream homes and and live there and are very engaged,
more than I've seen in any other community. And incredibly
hage And it's a predominantly Republican city and only Republicans
are sitting on the council. But this council seems to
(48:35):
be driven by the city manager and developed and so
they're pushing for warehouses in an in a belt of hills.
There's there's these hills that are close to the ten Freeway,
and they want to develop it because it's easy cash, right,
So when you have a developer come in, they'll they'll
(48:58):
pay for all these fees up front. Those it helps
cities that have some financial problems. But the key is
it's one time money. And then apparently this developer that
wanted to do the warehouses was also going to give
them some big dollar amount. I've seen that before in
other cities, especially for trash contracts. Oh well, we'll give
(49:18):
you a million dollars. Yeah, there's a reason why they're
given it to you. It's because it's worth far multimillions
to them, so they'll buy you off with a one
time check and the residents, at least in type are
smart enough to see through that. So there has been
a huge outcry by all residents, both Democrats and Republicans
(49:39):
against warehouses, which is interesting because it's it's been a
predominant issue in Fontana and Ontario, and it hadn't it
hadn't really happened in other enclaves, especially a place like
the Yukaipa. Now all of a sudden, they're in alignment
(50:00):
with some of the more liberal organizations and groups in
Sambergadino County that are fighting warehouses. I love it. It's
it should always be issued driven. It should always be
about issues bringing people together from from multiple camps. So
they were successful. They had They had such a massive
showing at their council meeting a couple of weeks ago
(50:22):
that the council uh didn't didn't take full action and
they're looking at other options. Uh. People aren't against developing
the area, they just don't want warehouses. And who's to
blame them? So that's you Kaipa uh, and it's were
And by the way, you know, the local what can
(50:43):
be called the local press, which is the Singer, I'm sorry,
the Southern California News Group which runs the Redlands Daily Facts.
You know, their coverage is is stathetic. They just they
just don't cover these issues. So there's not probably a
lot out there on the internet if you if you
want to look for it. But that's what's going on there. Ontario.
(51:05):
Full disclosure. I live in Ontario. Full disclosure. I sued
the city to make them go to district elections, so
I do want to say that upfront. Last night at
the council meeting, oh my gosh, this has been a consistent,
consistent thing, and I do speak at the council meetings.
Ontario has his policy. I guess you could say it's
(51:27):
unwritten that they will put the bulk of their dealings
on the consent calendar. Last night they allocated four hundred
and forty five million dollars of taxpayer money for a
sports complex in South Ontario. And you know, you can
(51:51):
argue pros and cons about having this sports complex, but
the bottom line is they spend four hundred and forty
five million dollars on a calendar. And let me explain
what a content calendar is uh, most cities, not all,
most most government jurisdictions, but not all. Most of them
have what's called a consent calendar. The kinds of things
(52:13):
that go on a consent calendar are innocuous, the minutes
of the previous meeting, proclamations, normal business, like the warrants,
which are the checks authorizing small simple things. That's pretty
standard our city, with major financial allocations, major decisions always
(52:43):
on consent calendar. And what happens is as a consent calendar,
it's one motion to vote on the whole the whole
list of things nineteen items last night on the consent calendar.
I mentioned the four hundred forty five million dollars that
was between two items. The total came to four hundred
(53:04):
and forty five million. They also signed or agreed to
a management contract for this same sports complex. In all
of that, normally, what's supposed to happen is, and this
is part of the Brown Act, is that they're supposed
to allow for public comments on items and debate openly
(53:31):
about these items so that the public can hear and
see what their positions are and why they're voting on things.
UNTILIO doesn't do that. So I put in for three
items on the consent calendar. The mayor refuses to allow
me to speak on three items and instead allocated me
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two minutes to speak on the full consent calendar of
nineteen items. So if you go to the video, you'll
hear me rapidly going through it. I always lodge my
objection to his interpretation of the Brown Act, but it
is somewhat of a gray area, but not completely. And
(54:13):
I'm looking if anybody's an attorney for some probono attorney
to take on the City of Ontario. I've done it before,
I'm willing to do it again because it's a ferocious
how they do this. And lastly, in Ontario, Jeff Burham
is a major developer. He was caught up in the
scandal with the colonies in the upland and he pushed back.
(54:37):
He's infamous for spending his money as he has a
right to, on campaigns and elections, usually doing nasty hit pieces.
A major supporter of the council and one of his
employees from a nonprofit that he started, is now on
the council in Ontario. Will say, out of fairness, she
(55:01):
refuses herself from things that are from items that are
he's on. But it's irrelevant because the votes are there
and she can certainly talk to her colleagues behind the scenes.
So a lot of good that does. But Jeff Burham,
his development company, is pushing a major six hundred room
(55:21):
hotel Unite Here Local eleven, which represents hotel workers mostly
in Los Angeles, but now at the Double Tree in Ontario.
They negotiated contract a couple of years ago, so applause
for that. They have put forward to referendums to put
(55:44):
the brakes on this Jeff Broom hotel. By the way,
it's at the Convention Center. All the referendums do is
put it to a vote of the residence of Ontario.
So I highly recommend that people, if they want to
vote whether to give away a ton of tax money
(56:09):
to this developer to build this hotel, if they want
to at least look at it and make the decision
whether to do it or not, they should sign this referendum.
And they traditionally you have thirty days. It's always less
than thirty days because by the time you get up
and running. So I believe it's June third, it's due.
(56:30):
So if anyone's listening in Ontario and you want to
sign this thing, go to your supermarkets. There are people
gathering signatures there. And at the same time before yes,
go ahead, I'm sorry.
Speaker 13 (56:46):
I was just going to say, before we totally run
out of time. There was a guy who was on
the council I want to say in Ontario, but I'm
not sure who owns an Agabi farm.
Speaker 5 (56:58):
Oh yeah, I think, yeah.
Speaker 13 (57:01):
He passed You know what I'm talking about, I do.
Speaker 11 (57:04):
He was Latino and I I'm blanking on his name
right now. I'm gonna do a quick Google search. But
he passed away a few years ago. Real nice guy
I've met and I met him years ago.
Speaker 13 (57:16):
Yeah, we're okay, Well I think we're we're We're almost
at the end of our time. Do you have anything
else you want to throw in?
Speaker 11 (57:34):
Yeah, the guy's name is Rudy Fabula. Rudy Fabula.
Speaker 13 (57:38):
That's right, Rudy, Rudy Fabula.
Speaker 11 (57:41):
Yeah, good guy. He passed away at sixty nine.
Speaker 13 (57:45):
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and of course by my always present engineer, eric O Sirio.
So let's hit it right off. Chris, what do you
think about these ultra conservatives arising up against Trump?
Speaker 11 (07:11):
It is fascinating to watch the implosion there. Yes, I'm here.
Can you hear me? I'm here? Like I got him,
I'm here, can you hear me? Eric? Hello? Hey, Chris,
(07:32):
why don't you continue with your thought?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
And I'm going to fix Eric's hearing issue?
Speaker 11 (07:38):
Gotcha? Thank you? So, yes, the administration's having problems keeping
everyone in alignment because they have bullied people in the past.
Trump has always bullied people in the past to get
his way, and you know, always had various success on that.
The real issue is that how long is that going
(08:01):
to work. We've got the midterm elections. That is where
everyone is focusing. Midterm elections, And so you have these
Republicans that are ultra conservative and want far far extreme
provisions in this big beautiful bill of prompts. But there's
(08:23):
another contingency of Republicans that are in New York and
California specifically, but also across the country that are in
seats that could easily turn democratics and they're panicked about
losing because of the draconian cuts by this big beautiful bill.
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And so you have these ultraconservatives that want far far more,
and then you have the ones that are vulnerable who
want a little bit less, and there's a clash, and
the speaker is having a hell of the time trying
to balance all of these needs. And you know, here's
the thing, this is exactly how Congress is supposed to work.
(09:12):
There's that old adage that politics is like making sausage,
and nobody wants to see it in action, as it's ugly.
But you know what, that's the beauty of the system.
And I get the people want things fast and easy,
you know, that's that's such an American culture thing. But
the truth is you don't want decisions to be made
(09:35):
in a rush. That's how mistakes are made, that's how
things become devastating. And all you have to do is
look at the DOGE cuts in the way that they're
cutting the government with no plan. That is not good governance.
Good governance is taking your time and processing things and
(10:02):
and more importantly, hearing from the public about what they
want and what they're willing to give up. So so so, so, Chris,
are you there, Yeah, I'm here.
Speaker 13 (10:16):
Oh, that's you talking, Okay, your your voice doesn't sound
like you usually do. So this whole thing is very
strange with these ultra conservatives rising up against Trump, you know,
he slept himself up to the hill yesterday. Try to
(10:43):
convince them all to support him and his UH and
his nonsense. We'll just put it that way. And truth
(11:04):
is the the the the ultra right wingers like the
Freedom Caucus, these guys don't care. They're not looking to
make Trump happy, period.
Speaker 11 (11:17):
No. No, Their their agenda is decimating government governments. And
then you know they're talking about eliminating any kind of debt.
The problem is that the uh three ends of dollars
(11:39):
of additional debt that this bill would bring to the
governance and uh, the ultra conservatives they are, it's it's
a flash and burn mentality. There's nothing about helping people
in any of it. It's all about helping themself.
Speaker 13 (12:08):
Hm mm hmmm.
Speaker 11 (12:14):
Hello, mhmm.
Speaker 12 (12:17):
I think Eric Browlman's call drop, so he'll.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Be calling in shortly.
Speaker 11 (12:22):
Am I still on the Yeah, you're still on the air. Okay,
Well then I will fill in the best that I can. Yeah.
So you know, it's just it's it's an interesting thing
if if this is your your interest, it's it's an
interesting study on how minority groups in a legislative body
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can force the majority to their whims because in order
to past build you need to hit the you need
to hit the number of of votes, and it's always
counting votes. Everything is always counting votes. So it's interesting
to watch the holdouts and see how much they're accommodated.
(13:11):
You know, it's ironic too, because it's the same problem
that Biden had in his first couple of years, and
there was one Senator that held out and prevented him
from getting his Build Back Better Bill. There's I guess
some synergy between the BBBS, the Big Beautiful Bill, and
(13:33):
the Build Back Better build. It must be a reason
why they called a big Beautiful bill, and it was.
The Build Back Better was delayed a number of years,
which I think was problematic in terms of the economy.
People seeing the results of the economy and the implementation
(13:54):
of a lot of that policy. And had that policy
been implemented sooner, I think people would have had a
better impression of Biden and the Biden administration going into
the election. Those delays caused a political problem. Hey, welcome back, Eric.
Speaker 13 (14:18):
Hey, guys, So the difference between Republicans and Democrats is
Republicans will just shut it down. Think about this for
a minute. The Republican tough guys in this case, like
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the Freedom concuss they'll just set it down. They don't care.
Democrats tend to be much softer than that. They tend
not to do that.
Speaker 11 (14:55):
So I think there's a almost a philosophical difference, and
it stems from what you believe the point of government is.
And Democrats believe that government's there to do good by
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the people. And it comes it comes from the FDR
era of government is help there to help people, and
that's the whole point of it. And I think Republican's
whole point is that government's in their way, right. This
is the whole Reagan era thing.
Speaker 13 (15:37):
And Reagan told them. Reagan told them that government is bad,
not good exactly.
Speaker 11 (15:48):
Government, government is the problem and and and Democrats never
pushed back on that, not in a successful way ever.
And I firmly believe the government is always a solution anything.
Big corporations, small corporations, government, big government, small government, can
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anything can be a problem. There's no there's nothing that's perfect,
but there are many times. The Space program is a
perfect example of where government and only government could lead
to the success, and that it benefited millions of people
(16:37):
in the country. FDRs programs, social Security is one of
those and instead of focusing on the successes the Democrats,
focusing on those successes, we have seceded or seeded is
maybe the right word, the argument that somehow government's bad.
And I remember, having worked in the Clinton administration that
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although he was successful in taking on many of the
issues that the Republicans and he co opted them very successfully.
You know, there's a lot of pushback to the to
those policies today, especially by the progressive you know, they
(17:23):
were popular at that time, but it did concede that
somehow there were problems with government, and I don't I
think there are numerous places that people can point to
to show that government works. And that argument we have lost.
And if we don't start pushing back on that argument
(17:45):
in the holistic sense, then we're going to keep losing
to the minority registered group of Republicans because they do
not have they do not have the majority a voter
of this country.
Speaker 13 (18:05):
It's right, that's right. Well, look, I think the fact
that these three Republicans had a hutzpah to stand up
the Trump is in and of itself is amazing. I mean,
(18:25):
they may give give in Tonight when they meet with
them at the Whitehouse, they might chip Roy is not
given in. I don't think, but you know, who knows
what the others.
Speaker 11 (18:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 13 (18:41):
I guess we'll see.
Speaker 11 (18:44):
Well. And when you were off the year for a second,
I brought up the point that they're they're the swing
district Republicans, some of some from Warren County that will
lose re seat if it's two konium. And if this
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small group of ultraconservatives get some of the things that
they want, there's going to be a problem for these
other Republicans and they're going to push back. So that's
the tap dance that Johnson's having to make seer well.
Speaker 13 (19:24):
I mean personally, the more they fight with each other,
the happier I am. And no, I mean I mean
that seriously, and I don't mean that facetiously, but it's true.
You know, I try to be cautious about what I
say and how I say it. But these guys are
(19:48):
off the clock, you know, particularly this group. So I
guess we're going to see what happens. But m hmm,
all right, well we'll be back with that. I'm sure
we'll have some more time for that. At the end.
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This is a little frightening to me. The Department of
Justice has ended all of its police reforms that it's
signed with Louisville in Minneapolis in the wake of the
tragedies that happened there, and there doesn't seem to be
(20:36):
there doesn't seem to be much place for them to
go to. So I don't know what's going to happen
with that.
Speaker 11 (20:53):
Yeah, you know, this ends many more Department of Justice
Civil Rights Division initiatives. It's just a matter of time,
and they're just going to end all of these things,
regardless of the good that they have, the good outcomes
(21:17):
that they've they've been pushing. It's just it's flat out racism.
But once again, the Trump speak that they're very good
at spending this and this whole reverse discrimination thing, people
(21:39):
believe it and buy into it. And I've had a
regurgitated back from from back to me by many people
who believe that DEI is is bad policy, and then
when you question them, they don't even know what it
really means. They know the words, but that's it.
Speaker 13 (22:03):
And uh, you know, I used I used to.
Speaker 11 (22:06):
I used to.
Speaker 13 (22:09):
When I was working on the ACA which, by the way,
if you're interested, I have a signed copy of sitting
on my shelf, my bookshelf.
Speaker 11 (22:24):
You know.
Speaker 13 (22:24):
I would say to people, go.
Speaker 11 (22:27):
Ahead, no, no, no, I was interested in the book.
Oh continue, Yeah, So.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
I would say that.
Speaker 13 (22:47):
I used to ask the audience, so, how do you
feel about care, you know, care for kids with pre
existing conditions, kids and others. And I would always say, oh, yeah,
that's great. You know, how do you feel about us providing.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Care for.
Speaker 13 (23:15):
Whatever it was? And I would go through all the
parts of the ACA and people would say, oh, yeah,
that's great, that's just what we need. And I would say,
you realize you're supporting the ACA. People never integrated the
(23:37):
two together.
Speaker 11 (23:40):
Now again, it's that we're terrible. Then. When I say we,
I mean Democrats were terrible at explaining things. There are
numerous incidences where people when when they come out of
(24:01):
voting centers get interviewed and they asked them, you know,
to have your vote on this bill or proposition or whatever.
People will say, oh, I voted against that, and then
they said then people the reporter will explain what the
bill does and they'll say no, it doesn't, and they say, oh, yeah,
(24:22):
it doesn't. They'll show it to them, right, and then
people say, oh, I didn't realize that. I said, yeah
that The reporter will say, yeah, it has an effect
on you. You get social Security, you get these benefits. Right,
oh yeah, yeah, well I didn't know that. Can I
go And then they'll say, can I go back in
and change my vote? People? Yeah, it's it's or welling
(24:45):
in language right that they're very good at the at
the short language to explain things. People will People don't
look at anything deeper than what they see on the Instagram,
and they get sold to Bill Goods. Right. I mean
how many times have you and I have heard people say, well,
(25:09):
I voted for Trump, but I didn't vote for this
with all these cuts, especially to two to the veterans
people did. People didn't expect all of them, and I don't.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Think we all we.
Speaker 13 (25:30):
Go ahead.
Speaker 11 (25:30):
I'm sorry, no, I was finished. It doesn't speak well
for me for people's interests in government. That you know,
people need to uh to educate themselves, but they don't
do it.
Speaker 13 (25:46):
So the things we have to worry about big picture,
so security funding, Medicare and Medicaid funding. Right, think of
about this. There was one more O veterans funding M.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Right.
Speaker 13 (26:11):
I mean you know here everybody's talking about, oh, we
honor the veterans and this, that and the other. No
we don't. We don't honor them, and in fact, in
a lot of ways we dishonor them. So we got
(26:38):
a lot of stuff ahead of us. But I think
our job, and this is very odd, but I think
our job, Chris, is to make sure that Democrats understand
that we're not trying to be as people. We're trying
to make sure that people know what they're doing, what
(27:03):
they're talking about. You know, when you listen to these
people who say, these people who say, oh, well you
know that that's the ACA. That's not something I want, Well,
(27:29):
damn it, that is something that is something you want.
Speaker 11 (27:34):
Oh actually that that was one of the one of
the interviews that where the guy wanted to vote. He
was against Obamacare, right, That's exactly what it was now
that I remember. Yeah, he was against Obamacare. And then
they said that that was the Affordable Care Act and
do you get the benefits from him? And he says,
(27:55):
oh yeah, and then realized that he was voting against
himself his own health interest. People don't know the distinction.
They just use these terms of derision and people don't
explore it any deeper. They're absolutely right, Eric.
Speaker 13 (28:18):
Yeah, well, we're gonna have some fun stuff in the
next segment. I think it's fun, especially when you hear
these morons try to explain away what they're doing. We're
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almost we're almost at break time. Well, I think we've
got a lot to cover still and and hopefully our
open discussion period at the end will give us time
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Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. This is there a common
host of the uncommon sense Democrat right here at NBC Radio.
CACAA got quite an agenda today as our friends in
Washington seem to be running us around the track. So
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we just finished talking about having a brief conversation about
the Justice Department withdrawing from the police reform activity in
Louisville and Minneapolis. Now it's time to talk about the
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idiots running out our country. And you know that's not
a respect that's not a respectful way to say it,
but it is a fact. It is a fact. So
let me give you a few examples so you'll know
(34:20):
what I'm talking about. Linda McMahon, who is this alleged
secretary of Education, says we need more a one in
our schools, as in like a one sauce. Trump says
(34:43):
he can't find the congo. But my favorite of all
is our Homeland Security secretary known trying to explain a
habeas corpus a reporter and she says, this is a
(35:05):
special law that gives the president the right to remove
people from the United States. Now, if you know anything
about habeas corpus, it's the exact opposite. It's what going
back to pre constitutional times gave people the right to
(35:36):
gave people the right to break free from government coercion
and such. So this is where we land. And these
folks who are running our country are like totally out
(35:58):
of it. They don't realize just how far off they are. So, Chris,
what are your thoughts about this whole thing?
Speaker 11 (36:08):
Well, I completely agree with you. They're incompetent. But this
isn't a surprise. During their hearings it was brought up
that they were incompetent. But in the first hundred days
has Trump had a lot of swaying Bush to get
(36:28):
whatever he wanted. And you have to expect that most
of the senators, most of them these are you don't
get into the Senate because you're an idiot. You may
have differences of opinion on the point of government, but
(36:50):
you were pretty much well invested in in an understanding
of what government does and how it works. So they
had to have held their noses to vote for these people.
These three that you just mentioned are are just the
three recent ones. This is an ongoing problem where many
(37:15):
of the of the appointees, the Trump appointees that are
heading up departments, they're not there because they're experts in
there in the in the field that or department that
they're running. It's because they're loyalists and willing to dismantle
(37:36):
the very agency for which they are running. And that's
the only reason. And I'm not going to apologize anymore
for bringing this up. It's precisely what Adolf Hitler did
as chancellor in the Weimar at that time, the Bymar
(37:59):
Republic before it turned into a dictatorship, completely dismantling the
norms and the governance that was in place. This is
exactly the same thing. And the people he appointed. Hitler
appointed were loyalists, people that were willing to do whatever
(38:22):
it took to move an agenda, not to And you know,
here's the thing, all of them, including Trump, take an
oath to the Constitution, not an oath to Trump. And
even just to round this out, Trump even said that
(38:44):
he was unaware that he was supposed to uphold the Constitution.
It's in the darn oaths he took on inauguration day.
I will preserve, protecting, defend the Constitution of the United States.
It means nothing to these people. It's disgusting. And you know,
(39:07):
these are funny things that aren't so funny as you
wointed out, Eric, and they do highlight the fact that
they're completely incompetent, But this is just a tiny fraction
of who they are that we get to see. And
(39:28):
so that's why, you know, it gets highlighted because at
least it exposes the idiocy and the absurdity of their
running these departments. But it's sickening and disgusting that these
people are in charge. And most of these agencies are
(39:51):
about are about, or had been up to this point,
about protecting citizens and of the United States, and now
they're dismantling it. And again, you know, going back to
the earlier segment, people the general population are oblivious to it,
(40:15):
so that it's sad for all of us.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
Yeah, I don't know, there's there's a lot there's a
lot of talk about how.
Speaker 13 (40:36):
President Biden, or at least his people tried to cover
up his illness and how they went about it and
all this and that, and Jake Tapper's book. I mean,
Jake Capper is a great writer.
Speaker 7 (40:56):
But.
Speaker 13 (41:00):
There's a lot of conflicts in there, you know what
I mean, There's a lot of conflict in there.
Speaker 11 (41:08):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 13 (41:15):
Well, I guess we'll see what it really turns out
to be. But you know, now they're trying to blame
him for covering up Bose cancer, and.
Speaker 11 (41:27):
You know it, it's ridiculous, you know what I think?
Just people, go ahead, I'm sorry, go ahead, of.
Speaker 13 (41:35):
Course, just going to say, these people have no concept
of what's real or what's important.
Speaker 11 (41:44):
John Stewart amazes me so many times how intellectual the
man is. But he is very good at delivering breaking
things down and delivering a message that is easy to digest,
and quite honestly the person we need to turn to
for messaging. But anyway, watch last night's Daily Show because
(42:09):
he covers this, and you know, I used to respect
Jake Pepper. I may still respect Jake Pepper, but I
do not respect what he has done with this book.
And John Stewart just lays him out for the fact
that he keeps repeatedly pushing the book. Right, it's a
money making thing. I mean, that's what That's what people
(42:29):
need to realize is whatever the expos is, and through
or not through whatever it is, the whole point is
him publishing and selling a book. Jake Tapper. I'm sorry,
John Stewart keeps saying, well, if this is all news,
why do we have to buy your book? Shouldn't you,
(42:50):
as a newsperson have delivered this information and pull people
on the air and it. You know, it didn't even
occur to me about that, but he's absolutely right. If
you're commitmentis to the news and informing people, then you
should have done that. But instead he withheld to publish
(43:11):
a book to make money. And I think that's an
important context in all of this. That's that's part of it.
And of course the whole thing got derailed by the
announcement of Joe Biden's cancer, But bottom line is, why
are we why are we still talking about Joe Biden.
(43:32):
There is an obsession. Trump has an obsession, the same
one he had with Obama. Remember his first term, it
was all about comparing himself to Obama and making himself
look good. Any elementary school teacher will tell you that
people that put other people down is more saying more
(43:53):
about their frailties and insecurities than it is about whatever
they say. And so Trump is doing the very same thing.
I mean, it is a total obsession. Every time he
says something, it always is. And I'm better than Fite
in some way, shape or form, and I'm doing it
(44:16):
better than Biden. And every press release that comes out
of the White House is We're undoing the Biden administration XYZ,
whatever it was. They're obsessed by it. I don't know
how much tolerance. I guess people have a lot more
tolerance than I do for ridiculous comparisons like that. The
(44:39):
poor man serves this country far better in a lifetime
than Donald Trump ever has or will, and he deserves
some peace. I don't want to hear any more about it, exactly.
(45:01):
The man should be left in teeth. He is definitely old,
and there are some health issues that he has, and
he and his family should be left alone. They have
been tormented, especially by Donald Trump and the set of
Republicans for decades. You know, the whole thing about his son.
(45:23):
I mean, it's ridiculous. It's the same thing of hey,
I'm sick of what was it said in one of
the debates. I'm tired of hearing about Hillary's emails. It's
the same thing. These people beat the stuff to beat
the dead worse, and there's nothing there. The chef is
but it's their rallying cry for their extremist supporters, I guess.
(45:50):
But it's such a disservice to human beings, let alone
a desservices of the country, which it absolutely is. It's
just a disservice to what it is to be human.
It's just the nastiest thing in the world. And you
know what I mean, Democrats, and maybe a couple of
Democrats would have done this, but I couldn't. I couldn't
(46:11):
tell you who. Democrats just don't do that. They just don't.
And maybe we lose because of that. But the bottom
line is that nasty rhetoric is evil and I'm just
tired of it. And I hope the general populace finally
(46:34):
gets sick of it too. It's like, who cares. The
man's not an office anymore, but I'm not here. Who cares?
Speaker 13 (46:46):
I think you're right, my friend trying. I think there
was something else I want to ask you before. Oh,
let's talk a little bit about the local stuff. Few
Kuiper residents and Ontario.
Speaker 11 (47:06):
Oh, the local Oh yeah, I could do a whole
show on that, but very quickly it so locally here
in the county of timber Dadino. The residents will talk
about Kaypa first. So there was a recall and it
was successful, and it was one person in particular in
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one they have districts, so in one district seat, it's
the district I can't remember the number, but it's the
district that about the foothills, literally in the foothills. And
the city had this lofty plan and it's a very
complicated story, so I won't go into the details, but
(47:50):
they had a plan of putting some kind of vineyard thing.
They wanted to do a mini Tebencula out there, and
the residents were able to remove that council member and
put somebody else in. There seems to be some kind
of financial issue with the city and it's a it's
a you know, you would call it a bedroom community,
but it's not a bedroom community because it's more of
(48:11):
a retirement when a lot of people retire and buy
their's dream homes and and live there and are very engaged,
more than I've seen in any other community. And incredibly
hage And it's a predominantly Republican city and only Republicans
are sitting on the council. But this council seems to
(48:35):
be driven by the city manager and developed and so
they're pushing for warehouses in an in a belt of hills.
There's there's these hills that are close to the ten Freeway,
and they want to develop it because it's easy cash, right,
So when you have a developer come in, they'll they'll
(48:58):
pay for all these fees up front. Those it helps
cities that have some financial problems. But the key is
it's one time money. And then apparently this developer that
wanted to do the warehouses was also going to give
them some big dollar amount. I've seen that before in
other cities, especially for trash contracts. Oh well, we'll give
(49:18):
you a million dollars. Yeah, there's a reason why they're
given it to you. It's because it's worth far multimillions
to them, so they'll buy you off with a one
time check and the residents, at least in type are
smart enough to see through that. So there has been
a huge outcry by all residents, both Democrats and Republicans
(49:39):
against warehouses, which is interesting because it's it's been a
predominant issue in Fontana and Ontario, and it hadn't it
hadn't really happened in other enclaves, especially a place like
the Yukaipa. Now all of a sudden, they're in alignment
(50:00):
with some of the more liberal organizations and groups in
Sambergadino County that are fighting warehouses. I love it. It's
it should always be issued driven. It should always be
about issues bringing people together from from multiple camps. So
they were successful. They had They had such a massive
showing at their council meeting a couple of weeks ago
(50:22):
that the council uh didn't didn't take full action and
they're looking at other options. Uh. People aren't against developing
the area, they just don't want warehouses. And who's to
blame them? So that's you Kaipa uh, and it's were
And by the way, you know, the local what can
(50:43):
be called the local press, which is the Singer, I'm sorry,
the Southern California News Group which runs the Redlands Daily Facts.
You know, their coverage is is stathetic. They just they
just don't cover these issues. So there's not probably a
lot out there on the internet if you if you
want to look for it. But that's what's going on there. Ontario.
(51:05):
Full disclosure. I live in Ontario. Full disclosure. I sued
the city to make them go to district elections, so
I do want to say that upfront. Last night at
the council meeting, oh my gosh, this has been a consistent,
consistent thing, and I do speak at the council meetings.
Ontario has his policy. I guess you could say it's
(51:27):
unwritten that they will put the bulk of their dealings
on the consent calendar. Last night they allocated four hundred
and forty five million dollars of taxpayer money for a
sports complex in South Ontario. And you know, you can
(51:51):
argue pros and cons about having this sports complex, but
the bottom line is they spend four hundred and forty
five million dollars on a calendar. And let me explain
what a content calendar is uh, most cities, not all,
most most government jurisdictions, but not all. Most of them
have what's called a consent calendar. The kinds of things
(52:13):
that go on a consent calendar are innocuous, the minutes
of the previous meeting, proclamations, normal business, like the warrants,
which are the checks authorizing small simple things. That's pretty
standard our city, with major financial allocations, major decisions always
(52:43):
on consent calendar. And what happens is as a consent calendar,
it's one motion to vote on the whole the whole
list of things nineteen items last night on the consent calendar.
I mentioned the four hundred forty five million dollars that
was between two items. The total came to four hundred
(53:04):
and forty five million. They also signed or agreed to
a management contract for this same sports complex. In all
of that, normally, what's supposed to happen is, and this
is part of the Brown Act, is that they're supposed
to allow for public comments on items and debate openly
(53:31):
about these items so that the public can hear and
see what their positions are and why they're voting on things.
UNTILIO doesn't do that. So I put in for three
items on the consent calendar. The mayor refuses to allow
me to speak on three items and instead allocated me
(53:52):
two minutes to speak on the full consent calendar of
nineteen items. So if you go to the video, you'll
hear me rapidly going through it. I always lodge my
objection to his interpretation of the Brown Act, but it
is somewhat of a gray area, but not completely. And
(54:13):
I'm looking if anybody's an attorney for some probono attorney
to take on the City of Ontario. I've done it before,
I'm willing to do it again because it's a ferocious
how they do this. And lastly, in Ontario, Jeff Burham
is a major developer. He was caught up in the
scandal with the colonies in the upland and he pushed back.
(54:37):
He's infamous for spending his money as he has a
right to, on campaigns and elections, usually doing nasty hit pieces.
A major supporter of the council and one of his
employees from a nonprofit that he started, is now on
the council in Ontario. Will say, out of fairness, she
(55:01):
refuses herself from things that are from items that are
he's on. But it's irrelevant because the votes are there
and she can certainly talk to her colleagues behind the scenes.
So a lot of good that does. But Jeff Burham,
his development company, is pushing a major six hundred room
(55:21):
hotel Unite Here Local eleven, which represents hotel workers mostly
in Los Angeles, but now at the Double Tree in Ontario.
They negotiated contract a couple of years ago, so applause
for that. They have put forward to referendums to put
(55:44):
the brakes on this Jeff Broom hotel. By the way,
it's at the Convention Center. All the referendums do is
put it to a vote of the residence of Ontario.
So I highly recommend that people, if they want to
vote whether to give away a ton of tax money
(56:09):
to this developer to build this hotel, if they want
to at least look at it and make the decision
whether to do it or not, they should sign this referendum.
And they traditionally you have thirty days. It's always less
than thirty days because by the time you get up
and running. So I believe it's June third, it's due.
(56:30):
So if anyone's listening in Ontario and you want to
sign this thing, go to your supermarkets. There are people
gathering signatures there. And at the same time before yes,
go ahead, I'm sorry.
Speaker 13 (56:46):
I was just going to say, before we totally run
out of time. There was a guy who was on
the council I want to say in Ontario, but I'm
not sure who owns an Agabi farm.
Speaker 5 (56:58):
Oh yeah, I think, yeah.
Speaker 13 (57:01):
He passed You know what I'm talking about, I do.
Speaker 11 (57:04):
He was Latino and I I'm blanking on his name
right now. I'm gonna do a quick Google search. But
he passed away a few years ago. Real nice guy
I've met and I met him years ago.
Speaker 13 (57:16):
Yeah, we're okay, Well I think we're we're We're almost
at the end of our time. Do you have anything
else you want to throw in?
Speaker 11 (57:34):
Yeah, the guy's name is Rudy Fabula. Rudy Fabula.
Speaker 13 (57:38):
That's right, Rudy, Rudy Fabula.
Speaker 11 (57:41):
Yeah, good guy. He passed away at sixty nine.
Speaker 13 (57:45):
All right, all right, my friend, that's been good doing
the show with you. As always. This is Eric common
hosts of The Uncommon Sense Democrat right here in NBC
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