KCAA: The Uncommon Sense Democrat with Eric Bauman (Wed, 11 Jun, 2025)

KCAA: The Uncommon Sense Democrat with Eric Bauman on Wed, 11 Jun, 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
For PCAA ten fifty AM, NBC News Radio and Express
one of six point five FM. The civil unrest in
Los Angeles has not spread to the Inland Empire, and
local authorities are offering assurance it will be dealt with
if it happens. In a statement issued by the Riverside
County Sheriff's Department, they said, we'll ensure every person's constitutional

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right to protest and will also exercise a zero tolerance
policy for any criminal activity. Any person breaking the law,
encouraging or inciting this behavior, or assaulted or obstructing law
enforcement will be arrested, jailed, and prosecuted. The Sheriff's Department
said is committed to the safety and security of our
Riverside County residents and their property. Protesting will be protected.

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twenty three, law enforcement sees one thousand, five hundred and
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The California Department of Justice reported Los Angeles County seized
a higher total of one thousand, nine hundred and fourteen,
but the per capita rate was far lower. Three San
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in the last three years, including Sergeant Dominic Vaka, who
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And now it's time for a brand new show on KCAA,
The Common Sense Democrats with your host, Eric Bauman, a
show about politics and contemporary issues. And now here's Eric Bauman.

Speaker 8 (06:11):
Good afternoon, Welcome the uncommon Sense Democrat. This is Michael Blitz.
I'm in for Eric Bauman here on NBC Radio KCAAAM
ten fifty and FM one O six point five in Redlands.
Before we get going with the discussions for today, Eric
usually does some kind of health report at the beginning

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of his show, and I'm going to give a non
health report. At the beginning of the show. I point
out that Secretary of Health and I use that term loosely,
Robert F. Kennedy Junior has removed the entire membership of
the Advisory Committee in Health Department that helps craft vaccine
policy and it makes recommendations for the CDC, the Center

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for Disease Control and Prevention.

Speaker 9 (06:57):
It's a critical.

Speaker 8 (06:59):
Critical advisory committee that has always worked transparently, drawing on
the best medical science out there to determine what vaccines
will prevent disease. The extent to which some of them
may have side effects are not the extent to which
they are recommended for adults, children, seniors, etc. So what

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Kennedy Junior did is he got rid of that committee.
He removed all the members, which is his legal right
to do so. He has a legal authority and he
can replace them. And he's going to replace these members
of what is called the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices
because he believes that he has to get rid of

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everybody so that there can be greater transparency in the committee.
Won't function as a rubber stamp for the industry profit
taking agendas. So he's what I want to point out
Number one, that committee is in no way responsive to
any profit taking agenda. Whatever you might think about the
Federal Health Department. The CDC's committees, advisory committees on vaccine

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health have nothing whatever to do with profit taking agendas
by pharmaceutical companies. They make recommendations, they're not paid off.

Speaker 9 (08:16):
There's no graft involved.

Speaker 8 (08:18):
The American Medical Association is saying that Kennedy's decision to
do this is going to upend, as the word they used,
this process that has saved millions of lives, and the
president of the Infectious Diseases Society of America said that

(08:38):
Kennedy's allegation about the corruption into this committee is completely unfounded. Kennedy,
of course, bases this and almost every one of his
decisions on his opinion. We've got a much brained, heroin
soaked imbecile making decisions about your health and mine. And

(09:01):
because he doesn't believe in his opinion that vaccines for
the most part, are effective preventers of disease, he would
like to get rid of most of them. He would
like to get rid of most of the vaccines that
will prevent your child, my child, your grandchildren, my grandchildren
from getting sick. This is now the non health report

(09:24):
about the state of the federal control of the health Department.
And one of the things that can be done is
for people that would normally want to get vaccines is
to demand them, simply demand them. We have to keep
up the demand for effective vaccination where they will disappear.

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That said, if I am speaking of science.

Speaker 9 (09:49):
If I could put a big bowl on a table.

Speaker 8 (09:52):
And mix in a singer, a Juilliard train pianist, a
former Seanana Griser, one of the musical features of Priests,
the TV game show hosts one of the original MTV
VJs in the very first year of that program of

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VJ where you have somebody announcing music on TV and
presenting music hits on TV. He's been on TV countfuls times.
He's the voice of characters. If you could also mix
in the fact that there's a group called Bowser and
the Stingery that has performed the wild audiences throughout the
country on chips and on land. If you could look

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at the Senior Votes count movement, and you could add
in the most important performing artists of the legislation I'm
aware of, and on top of all of it, finds
that you put in the president of the Social Security
Works pack, you would have my next at I guess,

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and that is John Bowman, who I'm happy to welcome.

Speaker 9 (11:04):
Johnny there, I'm here, Michael when I'm feeling less healthy already,
and yours from the intro. You're right, but wow, you
know it really gets away those of it.

Speaker 8 (11:18):
Well, I had to just name a few things. I
do want to jump in though, because time's short, and
I've been wanting to ask you this question for a
long time, which is kind of a second question on
the agenda I sent you. What is it about California
that drives Trump and the GOP so crazy?

Speaker 9 (11:37):
Oh, that's an easy one. What it really is is
that California is the fourth biggest economy in the world.
It's a fantastic place to live, you know. As you know,
I lived half my life in New York and half
my life in California, and they both are just wonderful
places to live. In my opinion. There's no question at

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the whether it's a little bit more more constant in California,
you know, and it does attract a lot of people.
And you know, California's biggest outside frankly is probably overall
is the cost. You know, it's a very offensive place

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to live because so many people want to live here now. Obviously,
in the past year or so, we have had a
disaster of epic proportions with these wildfires. It's always a

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danger here. But you know, to hear to hear the
dictator because I don't refer to him as the president,
but to hear the dictator go off on the wildfire
issue when everybody here knows I've only been here for
forty years. There is no one that I know here

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people I know people who have been here for ninety years.
And there have never been one hundred miles an hour
wins in the Los Angeles basein Ever, this is entirely
a function of climate change. This state has done really
a yeoman job of trying to deal with climate change

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on its own, and you know, has certainly diminished the
pollution in the area, et cetera, et cetera. But you know,
climate change is a worldwide issue. You can't do it
by yourself when you're just one state out of fifty
and one country out of hundreds. So you know, we
had a completely unprecedented, entirely climate change related event. And

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who has stopped the world from from dealing with climate
change in America has certainly been the Republican Party that
and once again this bozo that's in office there, the
furor the dictator, has uh rolled back everything. We were
about to go into another horrible period with regard to CLA.

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So that's just the negative here, right.

Speaker 8 (14:18):
Otherwise, what is it about California?

Speaker 10 (14:22):
Though?

Speaker 8 (14:22):
That gets so far under Trump's skin because clearly since
we've since he's hit the public political stage, he hates California.

Speaker 9 (14:31):
But you know what it is, Number one, it doesn't
vote for him in proves there we go. It rejects
him entirely, It rejects everything about him. It has less
than no interest in him. As I put as I
not that eloquently put it in a in a tweet yesterday,

(14:53):
I believe it was uh it. It is telling him
in the situation we're currently in in Los Angeles with
a very manageable protest that you know, which there are
some elements that shouldn't be happening, but local law enforcement
is more than capable of taking care of them. It's like,

(15:15):
we don't ef being watch you here, Donald trumb not
at all. None of your troops, none of your national guards,
you know, the poor slops that he that he's sticked
on on the situation. We have no idea what they're
doing there either, you know, obviously that's what's going on.
And and consequently, you know, he always needs a boogeyman,

(15:37):
you know.

Speaker 8 (15:37):
But well we'll talk, we'll talk. Well, hang on, we'll
talk about that. The boogie man need in a in
a little bit. But Number one, I want to find
out if our other guest is here, Rona Blaker, who's
a professor at College Arona. Are you with us?

Speaker 11 (15:51):
I am with you.

Speaker 8 (15:52):
Okay, great, welcome, great, great, So you'll you'll hop on
board in a second. But I'm just going to follow
off something out of John is saying, So, John, we
have Yeah, I agree completely that California is a thorn
and Trump's side for all the reasons that you say
and not believe that, which is what you started out
by saying, is the fourth largest economy in the world.
And I hope the listeners realize you don't mean in

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the country in the world. It's it's fourth largest economy
of all the countries in the world, and it and
it still gets under Trump's skin because he cannot control it,
at least so far. Now. So the National Guard, what.

Speaker 9 (16:34):
Doesn't get under its skin.

Speaker 8 (16:36):
Well, I don't want to speculate, because that's that that
gets me too close to his anatomy. But the National
Guard has been sent in to quell, as you said,
perfectly manageable protests, including some criminal activity. Newsom did not
request this, which actually is required by constitutional law he

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must request national Guard, but he did not, and he's
now filed a lawsuit with the federal court to stop
Trump from sending in marines and also invoking the actually
absent authority to have the military act as local state
police and enforced law. And there are laws I can

(17:19):
talk about in a little while, maybe later, but they're
quite interesting because Trump is basing he's justifying this on
the basis of some pretty obscure constitutional statutes which rest
assured he knows nothing about. He sent fellow more on,
hegseeth in to explain all this, and he could not

(17:39):
explain that he was clabbred by some three or four
Democratic senators. But one of the things that is going on,
and you alluded to the fact that these are kind
of distractions that Trump likes. The setup is you have
the beginnings in California, in Los Angeles of the possibility
of the declaration of the insurrection, and that will happen

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if the federal court were to even for five minutes
stop Trump from deploying more troops in Los Angeles, he
will invoke the Insurrection Act, which then allows him to
put the militaries throughout the country if he wants. And
that is why in a note I sent you earlier,
that is why I'm wondering, is this the precursor to

(18:25):
martial law? And Rona feel free to jump in at
any point here, but let's start with John responding, and
then we'll go over to Rona.

Speaker 9 (18:33):
Right, And I was going to even, you know, segue
you into the underlying reality that we're dealing with, which
is just what you detailed. This is classic authoritarian playbook
one oh one. You have to create a crisis in
order to justify the crackdown. So you know, I saw

(18:56):
the opportunity here this did this fit the bill in
a thousand different ways, including the fact that yes, I
don't think this is the main thing, but yes, it
was a perfect distraction from last week. Last week's negative
events with regards to Trump, you know, the fight with
Musk and all that stuff. The big, the big ugly

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bill which is so disgusting that no one wants to pass.
So yes, it was able. He's able to change the
subject and seize the opportunity to create this crisis, justify
his crackdown, and and really now step foot in the
big experiment, the thing that he's wanted all along, which
is to be able to declare, to use the Insurrection Act,

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to send in troops and do his cosplay of being
the commander in chief. And you know, it's really dangerous,
There's no question about it. We're on the road to authoritarianism.
To none of our surprised.

Speaker 8 (19:54):
Roana, what are you hearing and seeing and observing both
from your students and your colleagues.

Speaker 11 (20:00):
Well, first of all, I agree with both of you.
I think that you're right. I think that that's why
he did this. I think, unfortunately, he might be even
a little bit smarter than we think he is, which
is maybe not very smart. What I'm hearing is I'm
getting frantic emails from my friends in New York and
my friends in Scotland, saying are you okay?

Speaker 8 (20:23):
Are you fine?

Speaker 11 (20:24):
Is everything okay? And I look around and I say, yeah,
I'm fine, because, as you said, this is absolutely a
created crisis. It is political theater, I think on both sides.
And what these emails tell me is that the international

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news media and the national news media that I have
been busy and haven't had time to watch, must be
portraying this as you know, as if we were back
in the nineteen ninety two riots, which were an actual crisis.
This is like, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 9 (21:07):
Good point. Rohno.

Speaker 8 (21:08):
I was going to ask you if you remember, and
obviously you both do that in ninety two, George H. W.
Bush invoked the Insurrection Act after right after the jury
acquitted the cops who beat up Rodney King, and then
there will riots and as you said, these were these
were riots that were threatening to you know, Flatten, big
parts of Los Angeles, and Bush called in the troops

(21:32):
and invoked the Insurrection Act. By the way, there there
have only been thirty times in the entire history of
the United States that the Insurrection Act has been invoked.
And when you think about it, you know how many
hundreds of years we're talking about. That means that this
is one of the rarest of constitutional acts that Trump

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hasn't plans to use from his pocket. And you mentioned,
you know, the the your friend is being fearful for
your health and safety, and people are saying, well, it's
confined mainly to Los Angeles. First of all, it won't
be confined to Los Angeles. But already, not only are
people being shot with rubber bullets, which by the way,

(22:14):
are not actually rubber, just letting you know, I have
experience with rubber bullets, but reporters are getting shot by
rubber bullets who happen to be trying to report on
the news.

Speaker 9 (22:25):
Rubber bullets.

Speaker 8 (22:26):
People may think, oh, that means that people don't get hurt,
but actually, first of all, they're not really rubber. They're
mostly metal. They have a rubber coating, but the less
the least ingredient is rubber. They can kill you if
you get hit in specific places. They can penetrate the skin,
and they hurt like hell. And even though they're typically

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only good within a range of about one hundred meters
or let one hundred yards or less. I was hit
by two rubber bullets at a range of eighty yards,
and one penetrated the skin of my chest and one
penetrated the skin on my leg, and it felt like
being punched by Goliath. So these rubber bullets. That are

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people are getting shot with for protesting, not for committing
crimes for protesting. These are real projectiles. So I think
people in the throughout the rest of the country think
that this is a kind of controlled, safe response by
the federal government by who John was thinking, by the

(23:31):
furor in response to protest and manageable levels of crime.
It's actually a very violent response. There are four hundred
National Guards been seven hundred marines more on the way,
and people are getting seriously hurt. Already seven cops have
been hospitalized, not because they've been hurt by protesters, but

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because they've been hit by rubber bullets.

Speaker 9 (23:56):
There are also popular We were not to discuss at
this juncture a time that the Interaction Act was not invoked.
Each other twenty twenty one, the in Direction Act was

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not invoked, and I think that all of us on
this call recognized that that was a real insurrection as
distinguished from what this is, which is basically a run
of the mill protest, you know, with with some unfortunate
stuff happened, happening in the overnight. But this kind of

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response to this kind of situation is so wildly out
of proportion to reality, history, tradition, any anything that's ever
happened in our country that there's no other way to
characterize it correctly other than it's a manufacturer. It's just
to justify this crackdown. And that's where we are.

Speaker 8 (25:01):
Well, you're talking about something that I would call a
toxic irony, John, and I'll define that in a second.
I just want to tell the listeners, if you're just
joining us, that this is the uncommon I'm Michael blitz
In for Eric Bauman, and my two guests are John
Bowser Bauman and Rona Blaker, and we are talking about

(25:21):
all things Democratic, Republican, all things California. But I want
to go back to this point that John just made
about the insurrection of January sixth that was never allowed
to be called an insurrection. There's an act, a constitutional
act called the Posse committed this act and it has

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one line. It has to do with forming originally a
forming a posse, you know, to enact law enforcement. But
there it's just one sentence. It says, whoever, accepting cases
under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress,
willfully use any part of the army or the Air
Force as a posse committedist or otherwise to execute the

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laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned, etc.

Speaker 9 (26:10):
Etc.

Speaker 8 (26:10):
And to break that down for those who you know,
don't know much about the Constitution, what this says is
you can't do what Trump has just done. You cannot
send the military in to enforce the law unless there
are express exceptions. Of What people need to know is
express authorization means it's written in the Constitution, not that

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somebody yells something loud. It has to be written. That's
what they mean by expression. And so there are no
exceptions to this, by the way, in the Constitution, and
the law allows only express exceptions that are in the Constitution,
and there aren't any, but the state that the Department
of Defense under Trump and under George W. Bush and

(26:56):
George H. W. Bush, I should add, they they still
claim that they're a constitutional exception to that law.

Speaker 9 (27:02):
Of course they would.

Speaker 8 (27:03):
They claim that the Constitution implicitly gives military commanders, and
of course we know that the president is the commander
in chief, is them that person emergency authority to unilaterally
use federal troops to quote quell large scale unexpected civil
disturbances when doing so is quote necessary. So there is

(27:26):
no actual constitutional exception to this. The Department of Defense
claims that that exception is implied. And Rona, this touches
on something you said a two minutes ago, that this
is to quell a large scale, a large scale disturbance
that threatens the government itself. The only insurrection that we

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have had in recent memory is the one John reminded
us of on January sixth. So the toxic irony is
that you have this attempt is scrambling by hag Seth
all the way down from Trump the GOP to invoke
an implied act that they would not even entertain when

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there really was an insurrection. That's this to me. That's
one of the scary things is that they can do
this in plain sight. This is not a hidden agenda.
This is a blatant agenda. And the answer to John's
implied question, well, what about January sixth? The answer is
what about it?

Speaker 9 (28:33):
What about it?

Speaker 8 (28:34):
Right?

Speaker 9 (28:34):
Because he here in Russia or Nazi Germany or wherever
we're we're currently living, the only quell disturbances that disturb us.
The January disturbance. Disturbance didn't disturb the Dictator one bit.
It was enjoyable. He just watched it on TV.

Speaker 8 (28:55):
So Rona in the minute or so before we take
a quick break, what do you think Nilsom should do?

Speaker 11 (29:03):
Oh? Well, he he he. Maybe he shouldn't have filed
that lawsuit because maybe that was playing directly into Trump fans.
I am not sport enough to know what he should do.
I'm I I wish I did know and could call.

Speaker 9 (29:25):
It what shouldn't he do? What shouldn't he do?

Speaker 8 (29:31):
I'm playing.

Speaker 9 (29:38):
Trump? Well, so that was good, and especially with the
you know, News has been putting himself in a little
bit of a difficult position lately by trying to strying
to run for president by closing up to step Bannon
and the far right in a lot of ways. His
response to this from a political standpoint, good.

Speaker 8 (30:02):
Yeah, I'm going I'm gonna interrupt you one second, jot,
We're gonna take a quick break. This is the uncommon
sense Democrat. Stay with us. We'll take a short break
and be back in eighty minutes.

Speaker 12 (30:15):
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I'm Brian Shook. Anti ice protests are set to take
place in cities across the country. It comes after an
overnight curfew was put in place in a one square
mile area of downtown Los Angeles, where most of the
violence and vandalism has taken place since the protests began
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Speaker 14 (30:56):
Some people apparently have the notion that California really is
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there is no sanctuary. Federal laws are applicable here and
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Speaker 13 (31:07):
Yesterday, President Trump called the protests violent and thanked the
National Guard and Marines who are being deployed to this city.
Harvey Weinstein has been found guilty on some counts in
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Speaker 8 (33:29):
This is Michel Boots. I'm in for Eric Bauman on
the Uncommon Sense Democrat on NBC Radio k C A
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And today I am joined and I am grateful for
it by John Bowser Bauman and by RONA Nutt Bowser Blaker,

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and we are talking about California and troops and Trump,
and I'm gonna shift a little bit, not too much.
But Ron, of course, you know, I like to put
you on the spot because you're I know that's because
you're a fast thinker, and we professors have to stick together.
So I'm going to ask you to pretend that you're
a dictator for a moment. And Trump and the GOP

(34:16):
they're there. They want to cut Medicaid and veterans benefits,
Social Security, something John knows very little about, and dozens
of other programs that benefit Americans. How as a dictator,
how are you going to get these catastrophic cuts past Americans?

Speaker 11 (34:36):
Well, I might do something like sending the National Guard
something else. I might put it in a really large
bill that nobody, even the legislators who are supposed to
sign the bill, that they don't even read it because

(34:56):
it's so big and ugly. I would probably try to
find I don't know if I'm an expert at this,
I would I would hire people like Steven Miller, who
are really good at double set, people who have read
that book and know two things that.

Speaker 5 (35:17):
You can.

Speaker 11 (35:19):
You know, you and I both know.

Speaker 9 (35:20):
We all know that we can.

Speaker 11 (35:21):
Manipulate language in such a way that that, you know,
people will begin to think that somehow this is good
for them. Who was it that said, well, you know,
we're all going to die, dony Ernst, I guess in.
And now they're calling her dony Hurst, which I love.

(35:42):
I mean, she tried, but she didn't get away with it, so.

Speaker 9 (35:45):
That was good.

Speaker 11 (35:47):
I think people are smarter than the administration gives them
credit for. But I think they use a lot of doubles,
double talk. And the other thing that they know is
the same thing that advertisers know, is that the more
times you stay a phrase, the more likely people are

(36:07):
to believe it. It's simply a matter of repetition.

Speaker 8 (36:13):
Don't I don't want to lose a point you made
a minute ago about the way we define things and
frame things and phrase things. And we've talked about that
in the past, Rona, you and I on this show,
where the way things get framed is really what political
machines work hardest on is framing issues, framing people and candidacies.

(36:35):
And we currently have and John alluded to this earlier,
we have the framing of the events in Los Angeles
as being enormous, being lethal for the country, potentially being
a disaster and requiring this kind of response. That's a
framing process. Hegsaf jumped right on board at the hearing

(36:56):
in front of the Congress and he said, we're trying
to get a out of the problem so that if
there are other states where law enforcement is threatened, we
can surge national Guard there. That's his words. So he's
framing it as law enforcement is being threatened that's the given,
when in fact that's that's neither given nor true. So

(37:17):
the framing part is really interesting, and that's what you
touched on. So I'm gonna flip this over to John
for a second and make John the dictator and John,
how are we How are you going to get something
like cuts to social security via benefits and medicaid past
MAGA voters because they're.

Speaker 9 (37:39):
Also going to suffer, of course, But you know, my
only real role as the dictator is to show everybody
who's bought and in all fairness to the dictator, to
this particular dictator, he's not pushing the Social Security he
knows that they're unpopular. He pushes stuff that he thinks

(38:00):
is popular, so that so that you can swallow, so
that you the peasants, will swallow the stuff that he
really wants and that they collectively really want. Let me
put it to you this way, and I think this
is really the proper framing the Republican Party as a whole.

(38:23):
The dictator on down only really wants one thing, and
that's the tax cut for the donors. That's all it
really matters. Why was Elon Muskin there because he was
the biggest donor. He he popped two hundred and seventy
five million dollars into the election to elect Donald Trump. Well,
Donald Trump heared about was being elected and being put
in the position to be the dictator. And if I'm

(38:47):
playing the if I'm costplaying the dictator, I know exactly
what's going on in his feeble mind, which is, I'm
going to love this parade on Saturday, you know, because
I get to I get to pretend, you know, I
get to pass play that I control this entire military,

(39:07):
because you know what I do, control this entire military,
And you know what I'm really doing with all of
this stuff. I'm going to try to invoke martial law
because I'm going to try to show everybody whose boss.
Why is that important? Because I am the most malignant
narcissist in the world. You wouldn't really put it that way,
but I know how great I am. Everybody has to

(39:28):
recognize how great I am. If they don't recognize how
great I am, then there's something wrong with them. So
I must force them to recognize how great I am.
And that's all that all authoritarian lunatics do in every
country throughout history, all the time. This is no different
it's just that, uh, the population in America hasn't recognized

(39:52):
what's really going on fast enough.

Speaker 8 (39:55):
So what are the tasty What are the tasty treats
that you think something that aren't offering to cover.

Speaker 9 (40:02):
Up the obvious? Yeah, I can tell you some fun
One of the funniest things that they do is and
they did this in Trump want you know Trump Trump
uh one point oho and not besides and what Trump
two point oh, which is you know you always give
like a te teen c ween. See. I think the
actually actual number in the House bill, the analysis was

(40:25):
like three hundred dollars a year to sort of the
average person to cover up the ninety thousand dollars a
year and that you're that your richard owners are getting,
so the average The whole idea is that the average
person goes like, well, I got a text cut two,
you know, and anyway, I hate brown people, so you know,
put trumps stewarts, you know. And of course the entire

(40:48):
the entire tax cut for the average person is stewed
up in the at the supermarket in like two seconds
with this stupid tariff. So that's how you do it.
There's an interesting article that dropped as we've been on
this show, which is called Senate. It's in the New
York Times. Senate Republicans want to trim some of Trump's
populist tax cuts. So this is going to be a

(41:12):
really funny conflict to watch. While Senate Republicans are beginning
to attack another Trump thing that you know that you're
asking me about, which is not taxing overtime, they're deciding that, no,
we can't afford not taxing overtime. And He's gonna have
a big, next damn drag at with them on that
because he likes it, because he thinks, you know, he

(41:34):
thinks the peons will like it, that's how right.

Speaker 8 (41:37):
And he may cut that three hundred dollars down to
two hundred and fifty.

Speaker 9 (41:41):
Dollars, absolutely absolutely, but he will be the one who
tries to make sure that there is that tax cut.
See this is the way in which you know, Rona
said this kind of before. He's not politically as dumb
as as sometimes we think he is. He's constantly throwing
these kinds of owns, you know, in these bills, and

(42:03):
he's the one who pushes the populace. He ran on
no cuts to Social Security, no cuts to Medicare and
no cuts to Medicaid. He said, Baylor's we had every
one of them, you know, to every senior in Pennsylvania
with that, with that message, just to get their votes.
He doesn't really care after he gets their votes, you
know what what what the legislation is, but he cares

(42:24):
a little bit like he'd rather have it. He'd rather
continue to try to fool them if he can, and
he will take other members of the Republican Party to
task if they don't do the fooling process properly.

Speaker 10 (42:41):
Right.

Speaker 8 (42:42):
So Rona back to this kind of sneakiness that John
is alluding to about how you sneak it. You sneak
big tax cuts to millionaire has passed past people by
offering them some gum drops and life savers. What do
you think is what do you think it's behind the

(43:03):
blatant efforts to cut things like medical research. Just I'm
not getting ready, I'm not getting anything wrong.

Speaker 11 (43:16):
You're not giving anything behind the cuts to medical research.
They want to use the money for something else. I guess,
maybe to build a border wall. Maybe they want people
who voted against them to die. I don't know what
they're what they're, well.

Speaker 9 (43:35):
That's true.

Speaker 8 (43:35):
We know that's true.

Speaker 9 (43:37):
We know that's true.

Speaker 11 (43:40):
But the level of hypocrisy is just so stunning to me. Earlier,
when we were talking about the National Guard, for me,
if you mentioned this before, because I know I came
in late. In twenty twenty four, Christinos said, if you
try to federalize the South Dakota National Guard, it's going

(44:03):
to be war. We have a war on our hands
because it would be a direct attack on the state's rights.
That's what he said in twenty twenty four. In twenty
twenty five, she said, send them in. We don't care
about the state's rights. The way that people will chalk
out to this man and just trying to sell their

(44:26):
souls to what they previously said they believed. And this
attack on sanctuary cities is making me very upset as well,
because people don't understand what the word even means. And
one of the things it means is that if a
person who is an immigrant and who might be here
legally but might also be paying taxes and contributing to

(44:49):
our economy, if a person thanks every city means that
person can go to the police station and report a
crime and they will not be deported when they walk
into the police station. Without that protection, other criminals can

(45:11):
prey on the immigrant population because of the threat of deportation.
And so a sanctuary city, if you look at the fact,
make for a safer city. And the idea of a
sanctuary city comes from the Bible. And how many of

(45:36):
those people wearing those red hats also declare themselves to
be not only Christians, but the kind of Christians who
take the word of the Bible as WHOA, what's the word?
I'm looking for absolute truths.

Speaker 8 (45:57):
The hypocrisy, well, we can be pretty that they haven't
read the Bible. Yeah, I mean we're talking earlier, Rona,
you said that Americans, you know, we're you know, we're smart, smart,
and you know we we we know what's we know
what's being sold to us. But I don't know there were,

(46:17):
you know, seventy million people that I can't really advocate
for their intelligence that in this in this past election.
I want to push you and John a little bit
on this this point because it's you know, I think
it's touches on a lot of things that the three
of us are concerned about. But with regard to things
like healthcare and medical research, food quality testing, workplace safety inspections.

(46:44):
With regard to these things, we're not They are expensive programs,
no doubt, but they are not the most expensive programs
out there. What is it about these programs in particular
that have become like, you know, eat fat that the
GOP is looking to cut away. They're not actually fat,
they're not actually draining the economy. So it is it really?

(47:10):
Is it really the case, Rona that we're trying to
that they're trying to kill their detractors. John is about
to have a conniption, so.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
I better let him talk, you know what.

Speaker 9 (47:22):
I We can talk this stuff around forever, but we
should just really go to the heart of it. Republicans,
wealthy Republican corporate donors don't like regulation of any kind.
So after things you just mentioned, are two thirds or
three quarters of the things you just mentioned are basically regulatory.

Speaker 8 (47:46):
That's right, right, Yeah, and yeah, so they're willing to
sack Yeah, they had runna well.

Speaker 11 (47:53):
Workplace safety is one of the ones that you mentioned,
and of course.

Speaker 9 (47:56):
Brooks money bus money, but doesn't.

Speaker 8 (48:03):
Yeah, but it doesn't cost nearly as much as some
of the programs that were you know that are the big,
the big expenditures.

Speaker 9 (48:08):
This is.

Speaker 8 (48:11):
Free business. Every good business operates from time to time
at a deficit, every business. And so it's not as
if this is news that these things are expensive. It
just seems to me. And and yes, I know it
has to do with regulatory foe, regulation phobia, but the
fact is that they're even the wealthy, even the corporate chiefs,

(48:35):
they're still affected to buy some of these cuts. They're
still affected by the fact that if there's no.

Speaker 9 (48:43):
I'm sorry, regulation phobia is just money. It's not actually
regulation phobia. It's just money, right somehow or another.

Speaker 8 (48:52):
You know.

Speaker 9 (48:53):
The most salient statistic still is that in the nineteen
fifties and sixties, the CEO of a big company made
twenty five to thirty times the salary of the average
worker in that company. That money. Now is the CEO
of a major company corporation makes three hundred and fifty times.

(49:16):
There was a new study that just came out this
way that confronted that the actual numbers three hundred and
fifty times the salary of the average worker in that company.
And the whole goal here is to figure out how
to get your myths on that money. I don't think
it's any more complex than any of that. Medical research
is probably the hardest one to bring up, that you

(49:38):
to justify that you brought up. But the other ones
are all functions of how do we how do we
trim costs so that we can take more money out
of you know, in CEO pay golden parachutes if we
screw up the company, how do we figure out how
to how to come out more than com legally whole anyway?

(50:02):
And that's where the story has gone for a long time.

Speaker 8 (50:05):
The food quality testing is another one of those things,
though that defies any kind of logic. Yes, you know,
it's another costly program, but again, it affects everybody. There's
nobody that's immune to bad food.

Speaker 9 (50:20):
I don't think that was that hard to explain, because
you know, if enough people in the food industry are
funneling you massive amounts of money, you know it's all
short term gain. It's like, give me the campaign contributions
because it costs too much to run, and I want
the campaign contributions, so and and and you know the

(50:40):
lobbyists are going to give you the money now. They
don't really care about long term, long term safety. It
costs money.

Speaker 8 (50:51):
Yes, that's as a long not caring about long term
safety or anything. Long term seems to be the you know,
the MO right now, the GOP, there's no foresight at all.
It's now now now. You'd be the power and the
money now if you're just joining us, If you're just
joining us, this is the uncommon sense Democrat. I'm Michael Blitz.

(51:12):
I'm in for Eric Bauman, and my guests are John
Bowser Bauman and Roona Blaker, and I do want to
say a few words. I want to hear a few
words too, from John and Rona. Eric is facing some
very serious health issues and that's why he hasn't been
on for a couple of weeks. And I want them
to have a little brief conversation about the work that
he has done, some of his achievements, his work for

(51:33):
democracy and the Democratic Party. And I think Rona and
John know much more than I do even about these things.
So Rona, why don't you start with some of you know,
what are some of the things that Eric has done
that we that our listeners should know about.

Speaker 11 (51:47):
Eric has been the most inclusive leader that the California
Democratic Party has ever had. He listens to everyone, He
cares about everyone. He is the most I know John

(52:08):
knows more about his his actual you know, legislative achievements.
I know he did amazing things for all of us
in California about insurance. But when I think about Eric,
I think about the way he listens to people and
always has and cares so deeply. I had seen him
in tears when he sees people being treated unjustly. And

(52:33):
California has been lucky, continues to be lucky to have
Eric as as as as part of our life.

Speaker 8 (52:44):
Well said you, John.

Speaker 9 (52:48):
And I too think that even beyond you know, legislative achievements,
the thing that I think that distinguished Eric the most
in the history of chairs of the country party chairs
as the state party.

Speaker 14 (53:09):
Is his.

Speaker 9 (53:11):
Ability to inspire people and move people to action. This
is something that really has been lacking before Eric, and
it's lacking after Eric. You know, no one has been
like Eric in wanting being able to make people get
up out there but and do something to try to

(53:35):
improve everyone's life. And you know, I think of things
like twenty eighteen when we flipped a lot of seats nationwide,
but the Delphi for that tremendous cycle and the House
of Representatives really was here in California, and Eric just

(53:58):
had so much to do with getting that done. Especially
as we approach another year like that, I firmly believe
that Project twenty twenty six is flip the House in
that same kind of situation where he's got to stop
the bed legislating. We've got to do it now. It's
coming right up, and we need we need Eric. We

(54:20):
need a voice like Eric to again inspire people, move people,
care about people, and create the kind of action that
is going to get the results we want.

Speaker 11 (54:34):
And that Eric has to do that, and especially in
twenty eighteen is Eric has always been able to inspire
young people the light of flame under them. And George Flake,
a friend of ours who is often on the show
with Eric, is his idea. I don't want to take

(54:55):
his idea. His idea is that that is absolutely what
the Democratic Party needs to be doing now, is inspiring
and teaching young people. And Eric has always been so
good as that because of what I said before, because
of the way that he listens and he shows respect.
He's had people he says, he said a teenager on

(55:18):
this show several times and I'm sorry, I don't know
the young man's name, but Eric affords him the same
respect as everybody else and doesn't say, oh, you don't
know what you're talking about, you're in high school. He
really listens to what this young man has to say
and we need that right now.

Speaker 9 (55:37):
And you know, Ronad, that's such a brilliant point because
as both of you know, I work on senior issues,
you know, twenty four to seven and and seniors. Yet
seniors are always voters and always volunteers, and seniors really
aren't that hard to motivate because we're all, you know,
very conscious of our legacies and the did we lose

(56:05):
you there?

Speaker 11 (56:05):
John, did we lose him? We can't lose him. We
need any people.

Speaker 8 (56:14):
Hopefully he'll be back, but he may have lost his.

Speaker 11 (56:16):
Connection trying to say, let it completely agreed with me,
so yes.

Speaker 8 (56:22):
Which is always good what John Bauman completely agrees with you. Yeah,
But but pursue to your point, Rohna, and I think
it's it's the key point about democratic politics now is
that without the rising youth in the in the democratic movement,
you've got people in the Democratic Party that have been

(56:43):
in so long it's not even clear that they're strictly
speaking Democrats, they're they're kind of wobbling their way through
their political work. And so without young people and young ideas,
and there are some young people now in the party,
you have the stagnant sense of business as usual, which

(57:06):
is not very different from you know, whether you're on
the right or the left. We need you know, very
very powerful, I should say, passionate, committed young people. John,
are you back with us?

Speaker 13 (57:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (57:19):
I don't know what happened. Very it looks like I
dropped the call or something. I don't know how much
of what I have said you actually heard. But I
think like a bolstering rotor's point about that, Yeah.

Speaker 8 (57:35):
I think that the transmitter shut off when you fully agreed.

Speaker 9 (57:38):
With Ronan Donald Trump.

Speaker 11 (57:40):
They have intervened there because you know, you know, I'm
a woman, right.

Speaker 9 (57:45):
Yeah, I don't know. I think Trump just got in
and said, don't do that. You know, I've got young
men now, you know, they all want to sitcoin and
they all want to they just want to better on
bet on sports and go on Joe Rogan anyway.

Speaker 8 (57:59):
All right, so my last question to both of you,
and feel free to answer it any way, you like it.
You can each to take about half a minute, which
is all right. So the most important thing to do
in terms of activism for the Democratic Party, for folks
like us and John, I know you're, you.

Speaker 9 (58:14):
Know you're, you couldn't be more active than you are.

Speaker 8 (58:16):
But for the hypothetical folks like us, the most important
thing to do now is what Ronald, let's start with you,
is what do we have to do right now?

Speaker 11 (58:26):
We have to talk to people. We individually have to
talk to everyone we know, and we have to explain
what the truth is and why the truth is so important.
And we just have to keep doing it because when
we do it, it'll it'll last on somewhere and then
that person will do it the only way, John, You know, John,

(58:49):
you know, the only way of play sells is by
word of mouth. People go to the theater, they get reviews,
blah blah blah. The only way it sells is word
of mouth. We have to be selling by word of mouth.
Every single day. Every personally interact with great.

Speaker 8 (59:09):
That's no, that's great, John, You've got thirty seconds.

Speaker 9 (59:12):
I think that's all true. But I'm gonna stick with
Project twenty twenty six. But the House. That is the
most important thing we can do. What Rona said is
the way that we do it. We have some other
good messenger. Donald Trump is a very good messenger for us.
So we're going into this cycle in pretty good shape
and within the sound of our voices. Today is the

(59:36):
forty first district and Calvert's district. Time for him to go.
So so it's so so good night, A right ye
work every day.

Speaker 8 (59:48):
Thank you so much to John Bowser, Bauman and Rona Blaker.
My guest here, I'm Michael blitz Fillian for Eric Bauman,
here on the Uncommon Sense Democrat. Here on Casey AAA
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