S4 E06 - Double Top

Today Ritch Grove, @PaulHitsheet and @leebrown2 discuss the Ange led club positivity, Bournemouth match, final week of the window and Fulham away cup game.

Episode Transcript

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Yeah, there's no place on ifI would, I wouldn't want to be
right here. And you know,in this winute of trying to bring success
to one of the biggest football clubsin the world, the basic under line
principles that, yeah, I wantmy team to play football that scares a
life out of every opposition. That'sthat's kind of the end game. Good

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afternoon, good evening whenever you're listeningto the Varside Spurs podcast, and today
I'm joined by our regular Rich Grove. How are you buddy? All right
mate? How are you getting on? Lee? Yeah? Good. I
just got back from Liverpool and Idid the usual. I went. I
went. I went to see somefamily I've never actually seen before. And

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it's a long story, so Iwon't go into it now, but but
it was lovely. It's really feltwelcome, you know, the very warm
people anyway, but this is sortof on my dad's side and my NaN's
extended family. She's long since passed, but I got to meet up with
them and it was just lovely.They brought photos, they talked about old

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stories, it was it was wonderful. Yeah, So that was exciting,
and then of course I did theusual sort of touristy things. I went
to the cavern and you know,went around all that area and some interesting
bars. But it was it wasgood. I enjoyed myself. And also
today actually we are joined by aguest, Paul Kramer. Hello, Paul,

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how are you? I'm great?Thank you. It's a business doing
pleasure with you. Well, we'llstill see about that anyway. Right,
So what I thought I actually we'lldo before we get into the game is
just to sort of say a fewwords about how you're feeling really about Spurs
right now, and you know,what's your what's your mood in relation to

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the club and the way things seemsto be going at the moment. Rich,
Well, I'm over the bloody moonat the minute. I've got to
be honest. I like the lasttwelve months are almost unrecognizable, don't they.
Really? You know, you wouldn'tbelieve that it's the same club.
I know, I heard, youknow, somebody said to me during the

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game on God, it seems likea long time ago. Already Saturday lunchtime,
it was only four people on thepitch that started the last league game
last season, I think, youknow, So it's been a bit of
a turnaround, and yeah, I'mI'm yeah, I'm overjoyed, you know.

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I mean, you know, thingsthat are going on on the pitch
can only sort of, you know, they can't sort of get away from
the wider problems as the club.But you know, let's not distract from
the fact that it's fun again,that's yeah, you know, Yeah,
the first time in about three orfour years, I felt like I'm actually
looking forward to a game. Sohow about you, Paul, were your
thoughts and feelings are just sort ofgenerally the mood environment around the club at

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the moment. Well, it gotto the point where we would only go
along to the games just to hangout with our mates rather than actually the
football was a inconvenience because so direand impossible, you know, to like
an idy However, where you lookat it, it was just the worst,
you know, I've been going forletting me that I've been going for

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fifty years and I've never known itas bad as the last two or three
years have been. And I don'tjust blame Conte, I blame Marino as
well. So I was never afan of either. They totally didn't understand
the Spurs way or the ethos ofwhat we are, and they threw everyone
under the bus, one part thebus and one through everyone else under it.

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So now it's it's like it wasin that you know, that spell
between when we qualified for the ChampionsLeague final and the actual final itself,
you know, but we're all walkingaround in a days and on cloud nine
because it's just it's just so good. The only thing that I would temper
that with is that the guy whowas the manager before the sup previous ones,

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whatever his name was, who knowsno, no, thank you,
it's senior moment. He won theManager of the Month awards for September,
when yeah, I would you know, like, let's just hop can yet
calm a bit? But I kindof agree with you on that point.
We shouldn't get too carried away.I mean, we're desperate to get carried

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away, right. The last threeor four years has just been so abject
and so miserable that we're just lookingfor any glimmer of hope. But it
does feel different, and I thinkwe are, you know, not silly
enough to to kind of get suckedinto something that I don't think is unrealistic.
It just the mood and vibe,which is why I want to to
start with this point really just feelsmarkedly different, and there's there's almost I

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mean, this is probably disingenuous,but there's almost in a sense that we're
prepared for the bumps and probably theodd loss in these early days as long
as we see some good football.I mean, in reality, if the
results start going south, you know, patients does wear out. But having

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said that, at the moment,it just feels like it's an exciting time
to be a Spurs fan again.The right things are being said, the
players look really enthused that it feelslike it's a bit less pressure on us
maybe since Caine's gone, and there'sthere's a real connection, isn't there between
the manager and the and the mediaand the manager and the fans, But

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also so much exactly the same withthe players. They seem to be going
out their way to make a connectionto us. Just something about that feels
like the start of an exciting newjourney to me. Yeah, we'd we'd
hit rock bottom, so we couldonly go up from where we were.
It couldn't have got any worse,could it really? And even the winds

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were a hard watch, so now. I think we're ready for some losses
along the way, and we shouldbe able to take them in the same
way as we take the winds,you know, good and bad. But
I think we're going to just befine in the end. It's a great
new era. We're even proud towhere the merch again. Yes, those

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new one Yeah, those listening in. Mister Kramer here has got number ten
James Madison on his back of thenew Blue Homes Our Way shirt. I
should say, by the way,I got those my birthday the other day,
and my wife bought me that shirtas well, so it's the best
shirt of all. Yeah, it'spasedone for a long time. Actually,
I really like it. I'm goingto be rocking that the next game.

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Yeah, I'm going tomorrow night,so obviously where it's cool. I don't
think that some would play tomorrow,So no, I think we'll get onto
that actually, but we'll look atwhat we feel about whether to be changes
a bit later on. Any anyother thoughts on what we've just been talking
about, Rich, Yeah, Iknow this is something that I've sort of
spoken about on our little group chatLee on the on the WhatsApp already Angie's

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tenure is reminding me in tone anda little bit in football wise and a
little bit in personality wise on hispart of my favorite. I mean,
I've been you know, I've beenlike a conscious Spurs supporter since the early
eighties, since you know, whenI could first really understand what it was

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I was watching, you know,was that nineteen eighty two Cup win.
Inside right, So I've sent afew come and go, not quite as
many as Paul, but you know, I'm not that far behind. And
my favorite time of all them yearswas Martin Yol Spurs. I bloody adored
my and y'all, and I adoredthe feeling of around the club while Martin

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Yol was the manager, and hegave us that bit of pride and that
bit of self belief. And andI know I bang on bang on about
this. You know, if anybody'sever unfortunate enough to get cornered by me
in a pub bowl, wax lyricalabout him. You know, the first
interview that he gave about Spurs makingthe air on your next stand up,
and you know, just the nameof the club and all that stuff that

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instill in that belief. And I'mreally beginning to get a feeling of a
similar sort of vibe from Ange,you know, and I know we've sort
of bounced a couple of funny thingsbackwards and forwards on the chat about actually,
you know, his demeanor's quite yoldlike, and he looks the stame
stood on the testlock. I'm wasfolded and all that. But but you

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know, without wishing to be hyperbolic, you know, there's something about the
you know, we never expected MartinYol Spurs to win the Champions League.
We never expected Martin Yole Spurs reallyto get into it apart from that one
year, but we had some goodfun and it feels like, you know,
setting aside what's gone gone in thelast few years where we did reach
those positions, it feels like we'reback at that place again, you know,

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you know, like all said,we've been at a rock bottom for
a couple of years, you know, And and I feel like this is
it's just reminding me. The wholevibe is reminded me of that time It's
funk Watch. It's not you know, the guy whose name it costs us
a pound of time to mention waswas ruthless and his teams were were you

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know, were extremely professional and coldand they and they battered teams to death
in a really organized manner and we'renot seeing that, but we are seeing
a little bit more of that chaos. Just like, let's just get the
ball about and see what happens sortof, y'all. Or and that's my
my real takeaway at the minute.Three games in, you know, but
like we, like Paul just said, you know, Nuno had just one

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manager and a month this time inhis tenure and then you know he was
gone and Flater So yeah, yeah, but I mean I'm going to try
and sort of touch on why wayI think we should be excited soon.
I actually just building on that point. I got someone called Fixer twenty seventeen.
His name is Chris, messaged meon Twitter x or whatever it's called

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now, and yeah, he wassent a little video clip of Martin Jolt
on the sideline shouting during the NorthLondon derby play play play, which is
exactly well and says, you know, he just wants you to get the
ball and keep playing. He's likeabsolutely barking that out. You know,

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we just need to be on thefront fort and so those similarities go a
lot further than just the vibes tothink and the look, yeah, there's
some and and of course then youknow, with Martin yol we were at
the beginning of a of a newjourney. I mean many of us have
said you and I have said it, but we're not the only ones that
it felt like the beginning of thenew Spurs, the modern spurs that we

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know today. That he was prettypretty much the architect of us because you
know, the first time we've beenin Europe for ages as well under him,
and this almost feels like a stepup from that, but the similar
vibe because we've got the platform now. We are the huge club, no
doubt about it. Like we saidbefore in other pods that you know,
the manager keeps mentioning it. Weare a huge club. Madison said it

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the other day, actually didn't hetalking about you know, just the preseason
game against Shack Tar there was likefifty thousand plus. He says, when
you walk in this place, youfeel you know you've joined a huge club.
And I like that. I thinkwe need to keep that message going
all the time because because we arewe put us, we put ourselves down
for a long, long time,and everybody else puts us down as well.

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And it's about time now where Isuppose we kind of felt proud again
and started bigging ourselves up. Icouldn't give a ship where there's some fans
just think we're delusional. We're not. We are a huge club. Yeah
yeah, and even Robbie Williams wasproved that point yesterday. Paul, you're
going to sign Robbie Williams up?Well, I think we could share him

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with port Velle because we've given themHealthie Divine, so that could be a
straight swap, isn't it. Yeah, playing some dates at the stadium next
summer. That's definitely happened now,isn't it. Well, I'm ashamed to
me, I do have a coupleof friends who are Chelsea fans, and
so I shared that with them.They think it was the most cringe worthy,

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awful thing I've ever heard in theirlives, of course, because Pottuttino
gets a shoeing in it. Andyou know, I think it's absolutely bloody
brilliant. Yeah. I'm still gettingover Pottino leaving. I haven't quite recovered
from that yet, but you know, to me, it was everything.

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It was good about us because hewas he was proud of being our manager.
Yeah, and then he got shafted. I think he would have He
would have come back, wouldn't hewithout a doubt? Oh yeah, for
sure he would have come back.He was waiting by the phone, sitting
there in Hadley Wood, waiting forthe phone to ring, you know,
And now he has to shap allthe way to wherever it isn't sorry to

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go. And we've had two xChelsea managers ourselves have basically done us over
like Kippers, So maybe that's hisjob. Now he can be agent Spurs
Chelsea. I'd quite like him todo well there, just to you know,
but not better than us obviously.Yeah, yeah, no, I
hope he fails miserably. Sorry,Paul, I just don't be I mean,

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I don't get me wrong, youknow, I can't. You can't
take away what he was for us. And my wife used to say,
you love that man, don't youlook? Yes I do. Actually,
you know, he's just an incrediblewas amazing for the club. But now
he's public enemy number one. That'sjust the game, isn't it. You

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know he's joined that lot and youknow we've Anyway, let's not talk too
much about him. Let's get backon and talking about Spurs. He's gone,
you know, actually talking about sortof reasons to be cheerful. Let's
have a look at what matches theytweeted. They said are taught him about

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to enter an awesome vengor era asso Garth Crooks said, Spurs are starting
to look at that team not aone man show. I saw something similar
at Arsenal when everything was directed towardsian Wright and if he didn't score,
no one did. Then asked Meyercame along and transformed the Gunners into a
title winning team, basically saying likeit feels like now our talisman has gone,

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the team is better, and thetype of manager we've got is one
that can build a dynasty like hedid. Would he reckon to that?
I'm going to start with rich God. I mean, it's a it's an
our potato of a question. I'vejust thrown that hot one to you.
Yeah, yeah, don't. Imean, I know I've said in the

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past, you know the problem withwith Kine, certainly for the last few
years, has been that everybody hasbeen so heavily reliant upon him that it
has skewed. I think the waythat the rest of the side has played
at times. That's not to saythat I think it's a good thing that
we don't have Harry Kane anymore.You know, I don't want to give
that impression, but I get Iget that, you know, I mean,

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the whole, the whole focus ofthe team is going to be on
I mean, you've seen it atclubs where they've signed players of Kane's caliber
and they've come in for a bigfee and then you know, it's all
kind of you know, media attentionand crowd attention and all the stuff that

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all the workers that goes around withhaving a superstar in your side does sort
of detract away from that whole sortof club team mentality. And although we
didn't sign him, you know,he came through. He did become that
sort of that that that figure,and I know, you know, people
like Martin Samuel have written over thesummer about how Kane actually did become bigger

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than Spurs, you know, Andalthough I don't really agree with that entirely,
I think there is an element ofit. And I do think certainly
while our preferred center forward is havinga fail into it a barn door with
a blunderbus phase. The rest ofthe team's going to have to do Coasian,
aren't they. So we'll come onto Richie of it later on actually

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when we talk about the match,and we'll sort of have a little kind
of objective look at him. Butactually, Paul, if I ask you
this, I'm just going to sharethis message with you. First of all,
Henry Winter tweeted, I think hewas last night that he just loves
watching this bird side. He doesnothing to say too much positive about us,

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but it's something special happening at Spurs, you think, Paul, oh
very much. So yeah, Imean you've got to remember also last season,
between them, Kane and Richarlison didscore thirty one goals in the league,
even though thirty was scored by Harry. So yeah, I mean,

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it's what it is. I think, apart from all the signings who've just
hit the ground running, the newsignings, the fact that Star and Bissuma
playing like their new signings as well, and it's just jelling very well,
and everyone who's been signed, theVicario amazing, you know, your doogie
fantastic, and and then the midfieldobviously Madison is I think the best player

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in the team now along with Bissumer, and it just needs Charlison to get
that goal and then I'm sure itwill be fine. It just needs to
get in the right places. Butwe'll talk about him later. As you
say, I like him, youknow, and I think you know we're
winning. If we were losing,I could understand. Yeah, all the

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kind of dissing is getting right now. But I think that's one of the
things though, Paul, is thatthat you know, we we we're I
talked a little bit earlier about lesspressure, is that we were we were
told weren't we going to be arocky start, and actually it hasn't been.
It's been pleasantly the opposite to that. But equally, we've we've kind
of girded our loins for this tohappen, and and with with the view

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I suppose of hopefully at least we'llsee some kind of identity and some kind
of thing that we're aiming for.And we've had both, we've had the
results and that, so yeah,I think we're all kind of ready for
the ups and downs which have beentold, well, we'll get and I
think we'll be okay with that,but we are joy. I mean,

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you know, watching the game onBT Sport or two on CNC or whatever
they call it these days on Saturday, the fact we were going forward,
it's just you know, shocking itselfreally absolutely and looking for that second goal
when we were one new Ark insteadof them going into a low block.
So rich, how much of thispositivityy can we just put down to simply

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because of post Coglu's influence. Ithink it's I think it's all of it,
isn't it. I think I thinkhe's driving it. I mean,
I mean I say that because youknow that Paratachi has brought some really good
players. Actually it turns out theprevious guy didn't fucking use them. Yeah,
yeah, this is yeah. SoI mean, this is would we

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kind of have touched about in previouspods. I suppose just that he's man
management. But do you do youput most of this now, this kind
of change in dynamic down to potectAnd then he said the bound in the
jar there to post the Coglu.Yeah, I mean he's obviously. I
was thinking about this the other dayafter the game. Actually, you know

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about how often we heard from Conteabout you know, he used to us,
he had that lovely little turn ofturn of insult a club signing.
That player is a club signing,you know, and you know, why
wasn't he using this player and whywasn't you know, that player getting game
time and so on? And hewould, oh, well, these players

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are club signings, you know,and yet you know you pastor Koglu said.
I think it was in the prematch press conference about you know,
about looking in unlikely places for talentand about being open minded to using what
you've already got, and about youknow, approaching everything with a clean slate
and just taking things at face value. And I think you know, he's

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can you imagine, right, let'sjust sort of shift over into a slightly
parallel universe where we scraped through intoEurope last year and fucking Conte stayed at
the club, you know, right, Let's just like, let's just you
know, go into the misery,into the misery vaults for him. Minute.
Do you think, you know,like he would have already, like

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Sar, I think, played inthe Champions League and then was dropped immediately
afterwards, wasn't it. He playedin Moran and then we didn't see him
again did we was he made amistake in the game of it. Yeah,
But I mean apart from that,he's been, you know, incredible.
I mean Destiny who has gone wason loan, so he obviously didn't

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get a chance to play him.But you've got to wonder whether or not
he would have been played. JedSpence obviously was a man missing from from
the get go, you know,and so he got players like all the
way like this that that if hadthat guy stayed, they probably wouldn't be
in that side. Although we sawHoiberg on Saturday, we didn't see him
until later, you can imagine thathe would still be the anchor point in

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that midfield and teams would still bewalking through us like they were last year.
So I think you've got to say, going back to your question,
you know, yeah, he's comein and he's got on Yeah. God,
you know, these guys can reallyplay. And look what Sara is
doing already. I mean what aplayer that got you. Yeah, absolutely,
yeah, agree with there, Richand and I and I and I'd

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argue it just it goes. Hisinfluence goes beyond that. I just what
I really like to see is theway that he also is having fun with
the media's confidence with the media,the way that he sort of pulled Gary
Nettle down a peg, you know, just basically said the other day saying,
you know, and I just copypep mate, you know, and
then other stuff like we were tryingto put the mic on him and all

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this kind of stuff, and hewas joking about, you know, at
least just you know, get toknow you versed and that kind of stuff.
But it just seems to have thisyou know, rapport, I should
say, with the media very quicklyalso saying the right things to fans.
So beyond even just beyond the waythat we're playing, the man seems to

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really have worked out this club needsand how he can communicate that and how
important it is to communicate that toeveryone like within the club without the club,
you know, so and just actuallyprobably get into the match and just
do you want to chip in withanything there, Paul No. I just

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think that he's also obviously on acharm offensive and has won everyone over him.
But more and most important, he'sone over the players because they've been
quite skeptical and obviously Harry Kane wasa little bit skeptical about the whole thing.
Otherwise he would have stayed, you'dhope. But you know, I

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think this guy is the guy totake us forward and the squadron united.
There's no cliques. It seems they'reall together on the same page now and
it's just lovely to see. SoI think he's he's he's just you know,
an incredible manager. And you know, speaking to of Celtic, you
know, they say you haven't seenanything yet. M yeah, it's going

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to get even better. So it'slike, okay, well, it seems
to have united so many of us, including you know that generally the fan
base. Maybe you could argue theanti eni ones are just that that you
know, they're not against him,but they're still trying to find ways of,
you know, of making it miserableif they can. Yeah, anyway,
they Let's jump ahead to the match. So we played Bourne with away

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we want to nil with Goldson,Madison and Kilsewski. We had the Lions
share the possession again away from home, which is which is fantastic born with
the no mugs are they They're actuallya really good team. So just just
give us your general thoughts. Pawnon the first half. The first half

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was was just well, we hitthe ground, Ronnie, didn't we and
they went in the game at allBournemouth, although they we had chances to
make it too nil in the firsthalf and we didn't take them, and
and they had that one shot thatbrought out a good save from Ficario.
I thought we should have gone inat halftime at least two or three new
up. So that was my onlyworry going into the second half was that

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we hadn't finished it off. Yeah, but I could see that we would.
We would still win because we wereso we was it was like men
against boys. We were streets aheadof the possession in every department, we
were the first to the ball.I mean, I say that you say
about man against boys. I agreeto the sense of, you know that

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our quality. But I actually thoughttheir Bournemouth, you know, put up
a good fight and I thought theyplayed pretty well. I mean they in
the first half. There was ashot I'd come from which player was now
I don't really know too many oftheir players, but it hit the side
netting. Didn't he look like ithad gone in? He he you know,

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he was quite lively and you know, and they seem to be pretty
organized. I remember saying the lastpart to Tom, I thought, you
know, this might be two one, because I you know, got the
sense that they're pretty well organized.Now. They brought pretty well and so
you know, I agree, Ifelt we had the opportunities to score more,

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but but we but we always didfeel like we were in control.
And when SA not that beautiful ballthrough to Madison to score, I mean
that was just top top drawer.That was both yeah, and that was
a classy move, and as wasthe second goal the lead up to the
second goal. But I think thatthere was only one spell in the second

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half where what looked like they mightget like yeah, absolutely, it was
all over once we went too nowup that was it I'm talking about together.
So I love that celebration, thedarts one from Madison I was good,
and then you know a lot ofthem are joining on that. Rich
What your sort of general impressions ofthe first half, Well, I thought

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they came out with an mentioned topress and try and see if they could
find a weakness. And what itwas lovely to see that we we appeared
to break their press from the firstminute and they just lost heart, didn't
they. You know, after afterten I can't remember how manute how long
it was when we was it seventeenminutes or something we scored it was it

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was reasonably early in the first Ithink by the time that goal had gone
in, all of the all ofthe belief that they had in their in
their their pressing organization appeared to havegone. And even before that goal went
in, we'd beaten them. Atthat point there was, like Paul said,

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sort of man again, boys,you know, we we we'd sort
of broken their plan immediately, andthere was a bit of me that was
sat watching it thinking, I wonderif their guys have like watched the end
of last season and gone, thisis how you beat Spurs, right,
You just put a bit of pressureon them and they will roll over and
they've come I'm going, yeah,we're gonna do this to Tottenham. And

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five minutes later they're also they're goingfucking out. We don't know what to
do about this. You know,we can't get any time on the ball.
They're everywhere. Every time we losethe ball in turnover there in our
eighteen yard box fifteen seconds later,you know, I mean, I thought
it was marvelous. I'm really impressedwith the new center half partnership, you

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know, vander Ven, you know, I mean a lot was made of
his speed, by the way,Yeah yeah, but he's whether he's quick
or not, doesn't appear to beI mean not Granted it wasn't the greatest
test at the weekend, but heappears to be in the right place,
you know, and that I thinkhe's far more important. He seems to
have a great head on him.And so even when they sort of stole

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possession when we were pressing up highup in the pitch and turned us around,
I didn't really have any I don'tever remember once thinking ship, we've
had it now. No, Iabsolutely agree. But actually we'll jump ahead
to the second half then and we'llget your sort of general thoughts on on
that. The goal came in thesecond half, the second one which basically

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killed the whole game off sunny lovelylittle touch to a doggie or doggie went
to the sort of byline just keptit in, didn't they, and passed
it back to Cooler, which wasagain that wasn't an easy finish. The
way he sort of knocked that inwas superb, and really that was that
was game over. Do you seethe fist pump by the ball boy from

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the ballmouth ball boy as well?I think he'll see kritty kis, won't
he check it out? I havea look on have a look on Twitter
that there's this their their ball boysitting there cooler set scores and he does
this little discreet, little sort oflittle fist pump kind of thing like Y's
kid in Brilliant. So so justgeneral, Paul, your your thoughts on

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the second half. Yeah, itwas just the same, apart from the
fifteen minutes when they were under thecost slightly because we're coming out looking for
that equalizer. But as soon asit went in to two, Neil and
I think once because when Charleston missedthat easy chance, slightly easy chance maybe

(30:17):
in the first half, and thenhe stumbled on the ball in the second
half and then they'd made the substitutionswe scored after that. I didn't wait
a second after after he'd gone off. But yeah, I just didn't.
I just didn't feel at any stagewe were in trouble or we would go
one or anything like. I justthought this is I was going to be

(30:38):
two new or three new, dependingon if we take our chances or not.
Absolutely, Yeah, the back fourlook looked great and Porrows coming and
done a great job as well.So it's just it's just lovely to watch
right now. Yeah, it is. It's a joy to behold, isn't
it. Rich Matt, I'm gonnato managing the game for the first time.

(31:04):
Not only we got two clean sheetson the bounce, but this wasn't
supposed to be the case, wasit. We were told that we were
going to be shipping a ton ofgoals, and yeah, why is this
happening? We seem to be managingthe game really well as well. Yeah,
I mean, he's very proactive withhis substitutions, isn't he. You
know, and you know they're they'rea bit earlier as well. We were

(31:26):
used to contact changing between seventy fiveseventy seventy five minutes. He would start
changing if things were going well,and then if things were going badly or
I don't know, he normally havefucking vanished or whatever he did, you
know, but he's changing them.He's changing them sooner. He's being more
proactive. We saw it at Brentfordwith the head injury, the possible concussion

(31:49):
with Romero that he doesn't fuck about. He just makes a decision and goes,
no, this is what we're goingto do. I mean, that's
really refreshing. I'm you know,Lee, you will know this, you
know, because we were sort ofcommunicating through the game. When the high
Bird came on, I just sortof went, I'll fuck you know,
here we go again. But thenyeah, yeah, I thought we sold

(32:14):
him, you know, But actuallyeven he seems to be a bit of
a month transformed, don't he.Actually that seems to have been that was
a really effective substitution in order tosort of first shore up that center.
I mean, we've alluded to themhaving that sort of fifteen twenty minutes where
they were a little bit more inthe ascension. I've had this very long

(32:37):
held theory about games of football thatare open. Games of football where both
teams are trying to win the gametend to go in twenty minute cycles.
I see, you know, Andteams that win trophies and teams that do
really well are the teams that capitalizein each twenty minute chunk. Yeah,
And our failure over years have alwaysbeen We'll play really well for twenty minutes,

(32:58):
but not score the goal we willconcede in there twenty minutes. And
what I noticed on Saturday was whenit came to their time to really sort
of throw everything at it and forthem to have in that second half,
that fifteen twenty minute cycle, apartfrom one or two hairy moments where they
were there was a lot of bodiesin the box or whatever. Yeah,
I don't actually think we were evenunder any pressure, were we? And

(33:21):
I think the game management has gota lot to do with that, that
bringing those fresh legs in at theright time rather than waiting for players to
pick up tiresome injuries, you know, whether they're they're stretching for things,
or they're you know, you know, they're they're slow to react or whatever.
You So that's that's that's excellent analysis, mate, That's I'm really glad
you mentioned that about the subs.Actually, and I'll ask Paul in a

(33:44):
second, but that they really didimpress me. And in the past we
kind of looked at the manage andthought, why isn't he bringing someone on,
Why is he waiting another five tenminutes to see if it's going to
turn out or right? You know, the fact that he's this proactive and
bringing on these changes and using thesubs in a really pragmatic way and and

(34:05):
and thoughtful way, and not justshutting the game down. It's you know,
there's is real thought like thinking astep ahead. It feels like to
me, do you remember last seasonagainst Milan when Contact took off forward and
brought on Sanchez, you know,doing we're chasing the game? Yeah?
Yeah, that was the most bizarrething I'd ever seen in my life for
Neil. Neil the first leg andI think that's when you realized, you

(34:30):
know, and that and the performanceagainst Sheffield United away in the cup.
Yeah to me, when he whenhe when he did that in the Champions
League, that was his bringing LucasMore off against Man United moment you don't
know what you're doing. Yeah,yeah, so yeah, we uh basically
all agree. I supposed then thatthe substitutions were excellent. So Sara and

(34:52):
Richie went off and Parisitch and Hoibergcame on. Parisitch has been doing really
well recently and and I think itwould probably be that he will stay at
the club. Hoiberg is one ofthose I think it looks like he might
well be on his way out ofthe club. But like you say,
Rich, I think when he cameon, he really did a solid job,
a different job to that he normallydoes, that was proactive. And

(35:15):
then we had Madison and Basuma comeoff, and the Cells and Skip came
on, and it was strange actuallywatching the game. It whoever came on
picked up the same tempo, pickedup the same the patterns of play.
It didn't look like we were weakenedin any kind of way at all.
The only one worrior I did.Worry I had was when a Doggie went

(35:37):
off and he looked like he wasquite badly injured, and Davis came on
did a solid job. But doesanyone know anything about a doggie whether he's
he's okay or not. Yeah,well I've heard that it was fine,
okay. I think it was justa preat caution to take him off,
so very similar to I don't thinkhe left the ground on crutches like Madison
did the week before. So I'msure it good be fine for Saturday,

(36:00):
because he's he's been exceptional, youknow, from the off. I think
everyone sort of thought this lad assomething you know, really special about him,
and and he seems to be settingup a lot of the goals and
being really one of the sort ofcatalysts for our attack in play. So
I think we would be a majorloss if we lost him. Well,

(36:21):
we're gonna lose him, and Idon't know who are we going to lose
to the African Nations with assumer ins is it? Yeah? Pursuming Sar
Probably not your doggie, I'm notI'm not sure because your doggy. I
think he's the under twenty one forItaly. I believe, isn't he?
Is that right? Do you knowrich at all? We have to google.
Yeah, I'm pretty I'm pretty surehe plays for the under twenty lines

(36:42):
for Italy. I'm only on afucking Spurs podcast. I don't know anything
about our players may good laws,Well you reckon, we know anything about
We're just blagging it as well,mate. So should we actually trot through
if we can quickly then some ofthe teams? So I think the Caio,
like I last part, I holdmy hands up. I think I'm
wrong about him, although he's stillyou know, got a way to go

(37:05):
yet before we can consider him,you know, a brilliant acquisition. He
seems he seems to be settling intoit. I saw a stat saying he's
like save ninety three point three percentof all shots and only one from open
play, which is the best inthe Premier League. So you know,
he seems to be doing particularly well. Porrow. I'm going to sort of

(37:25):
eat my metaphorical hat on that oneas well, because in the last part
I said, I think he mightbe the flop of the season. I
mean, I know it's only acouple of games, but already, do
you know what I mean, maybehe's the one instead of instead of Emerson.
What do you think about that?Rich Well, I noticed I was
going to mention this actually because alot has been made of how Emerson Royal

(37:47):
has been coming inside and playing moreof a midfield, and I noticed that
that Porrow was doing a similar thingas well. They're obviously leaving space out
on that right hand side for Kulasewskito have as much room as possible.
I say, obviously, I'm guessingI'm not I'm not a coach, but

(38:07):
it looks like they're sort of invertingthat role a little bit more so maybe
maybe you know, he's having toadapt a little bit, you know,
And and so that's why it's perhapstaking a bit of time. I mean,
I'm encouraged by him. You know, obviously players in recent years in
that position. Well, I meanone of the things I've really liked.
And if you clock this, didyou watch the whole game? Actually yeah,

(38:30):
yeah, I mean this was justsomething I particularly like. But whenever
Porro or Porro and Romero made achallenge or a tackle, they were shoulder
charging each other, and like,really, I mean, this is high
fives. It's real aggression between them, and and there's and you know,
talking about Romero's I don't know whetherit's because the vice captains has been given

(38:52):
to him, but there's more ofa controlled aggression about him. Now.
He really looks the player that weknow, we really hope we'd get,
and he really impressed me. Anythoughts on him, Paul Romero? Yeah,
we're four out now and now he'sgot the number that he wanted.
He's he's a World Cup winner.What what'd you need? You know?

(39:14):
Yeah, yeah, he's going tobe there. Hopefully he'll stay for five
six years. Along with all theothers that have come in who were only
in early twenties. He's incredible andhe's a real leader. It seems to
me that everyone respects it, andhe's a great, great guy to having
the team. He'd rather have himon your team than playing against you,

(39:35):
especially with the dark arts. Thathe absolutely because the hair pulling has come
back into the public domain. Thathere because of the referee. That's John
Moss or whoever it was decided totalk about it. Personally, I thought
he should have got a certificate forthat myself, you know, I was
well happy with him. But actuallyVan Derven I was told by twin to

(40:00):
that he was the lesser of thetwo out of taps sober and was basically
not very good in the air.He was just a pace merchant. This
guy looks like he is. Imean, he's just twenty two, is
he something like that? He's hisbest years are ahead of him. But
he reads the game so well.What are your thoughts and that one,

(40:21):
Paul, Yeah. The funniest thingI'll tell you about him is it today
I was in the Spurst store andthey printed off first sure and the guy
did it put vander Van. Mywife said yesterday that Van der Van was
very good, as nearly as goodas Van Morrison. No One was as

(40:43):
good as Van Morrison hero. Uhyeah, he looks great, you know.
I know he had a bit ofa dodgy preseason possibly, I think
people weren't sure. But he he'ssetting in really nicely. It's big up
people for these guys. They've comefrom oh yeah, different country, differently,

(41:04):
different everything. I mean of theof the new acquisitions you know we've
got, you know, we've hadquite a pretty much a spine of the
team really and they've settled so wellso far. I mean, like we
said before, okay, let's notget carried away. It's early days,
but so far they've settled very veryquickly. That's you know that that's possibly

(41:24):
because we bought the right people andyou know, obviously a lot of credit
that goes to to and as well. But we've very strengths. Yeah they're
weaknesses playing to the team strengths andwell who would who would have thought?
Yeah? Yeah, and then obviouslywe've we've we've done all the eulogies for

(41:45):
a doggy. I think, youknow, he's just incredible. Sar really
looks, you know, a fantasticplayer. You know, he's he's still
very very young, but he's gotan eye for a pass rich. Yeah.
I've been a massive, massive fanof that this guy ever since I
first saw him. You know,I was, I was really really apprehensive

(42:06):
that the club we're going to lethim go was was that he would be
one of those by one of thoseyoung players they bought in just to turn
a few quid on, you know. And I'm so happy that he's in
the side because he is a seriousfucking footballer. Oh yeah, yeah.
And talking about serious footballers, Passumer. We found our den Bell at replacement,
do we think a lot of peoplesay, an't they? Yeah,

(42:30):
we've got the Beassumer that we wanted. Yeah, not them that ruined.
Yeah, exactly. We've also gota Madison that's even better than the one
that was at Leicster. I thinkhe just he just really seems to fit
this team like hand in glove andhe looks like a Spurs player. You
know, He's just got it,isn't he. He's got that midfield genius

(42:52):
that we have left. You know. The thing about James Madison, and
I know I've said this before,you know, I hated him before we
bought him. You know, Ithought he was all right a little prick
and I think that's probably you know, he's our prick now, yeah,
well that's you know, that's kindof a compliments. You know, if

(43:14):
you ate them when they play againstyou, that must be a bit of
a compliment. Yeah, and soactually you're right, like you just said,
there, he looks like a Spursplayer and I think inside, especially
in the absence of you know,the huge shadow that is Harry Kane,
like he has got the platform togrow into the international star that he's got

(43:37):
the talent to be. You know, he won't be constantly playing in Kane
shadow. He won't be linking upfor Kane. He won't be supplying Kane.
He won't be Yudyer. He cancome to Spurs and be Billy big
Bollocks and I reckon he's rebellishing it. Oh, he's up for that.
He's stroking him right now as wespeak. I'm sure, yeah, or
you wanted to say something, Ithink yeah, I think he might play

(44:00):
in the England squad. I'm surehe'll get a caller in such a good
form and then he can link upwith Harry Kane there, yeah, exactly,
Harry Kane is what is missing.And then Harry Kane that if he
wants to win trophies, he's gonnahave to come back to Spurs. Absolutely.
And then and then Kulisowski I thought, looked like much more close to
the player that we remember in hispomp. He's getting there. I mean,

(44:22):
you know, we talked about hisgoal, which was nicely taken,
but overall his player, I thoughtwas it just seems to be getting better
and better. Yeah, and itwould we feel do you any of you
agree? I should say, reallyhe hasn't quite regained the form that he
had, but you know, whenhe was playing with Benson core and the

(44:44):
team as well. I think he'smissing him. But that injury obviously was
worse than we thought it was becausehe's taken his time to get back up
to full speed. But he tookhis goal really nicely. There was the
time in the first half. Ithink it was when Madison put a ball
through to him, but it wason his right foot and so not someone
needs to tell Madison that has onlygot one foot, so it's not the

(45:06):
right let, it's the other one. Yeah. Well, do you know
what you mentioned Benton Court and hemight be back in about two and a
half weeks. Time can you imagine. Wow, wow, wow, Yeah,
Tony coming in in January. It'sall coming together. I love it
when a plan comes together. Sonas well. I thought he looks much

(45:28):
more like his old self as well. I didn't score, but you know,
but he's playing better. He's notquite there yet, but but you
know, it's it's starting. Becauseyou've got to remember, right that would
you take the one of the biggestfigure heads out of the club, that's
a wrench. He's got to changea whole dynamic there. You've got to
change a partnership which is, likeI said, Tommy the last pod,

(45:49):
you know, which has basically beenthe most prolific partnership in Premier League history.
And now you remake that. Andyeah, I think he's starting to
take shape in that position, andyou know, and figure it out.
We're recording this on the eighth anniversaryof his signing. Yeah, wow,
God, I can remember then eightyears ago when we just signed him,

(46:10):
all the who are on Twitter becauseeverybody on Twitter seemed to think we should
have bought Sido fucking Brahino instead.Do you remember that? Yes, yes,
yeah, I've got the shirt toprove it. Yeah. Now,
I mean I quite fantasied side Behino. I thought he was a decent bloody

(46:30):
player. But do you remember whenand it was like it was one of
those conspiracy things that came up,like, oh, the club are having
us over because they've listed some asa forward in the squad when he's actually
a winger and all this. Youknow, they're trying to get out of
buying a striker. Do you rememberit, Bo? Where are they now?
One of those? He was inTurkey, wasn't he? I think,

(46:52):
yeah, you're probably an Arabia somewhere. Yeah. Yeah. So then
I think we need to touch uponthis hot which everyone seems to have written
him off already. Is our boyRichie just okay, let's let's let's just
go through this ask. I'll askyou rich first, then I'll come to

(47:12):
you, Paul. Let's just getyour your hot takes. He's gonna be
fine, you know, he's gonnabe fine. He's a fucking international,
you know, a little Brazilian internationalgoal scoring striker, right, He's going
to be absolutely fine. If wecast our minds back to the August and

(47:36):
September of every Premier League year forthe last decade, our center forward didn't
normally score any goals. And mybirthday is in early October, right,
and Harry Kane's only normally just startedscoring before my birthday, So like like
he's all right, it's like andit's and this is a big role for

(47:57):
him to step into. The team'sbeen been completely transformed. I mean,
I said after the Brentford game,My only problem with him in the Brentford
game was that he plays off theshoulder of the center arms, you know,
and he likes to run in whereasKane used to move the center arms
about and create space for people.And I think this touches a little bit

(48:19):
on what you were saying about Sunbeginning to change and to adapt and to
fit into this new side. Isthe Sun now needs to create his own
space instead of running into space hasbeing created for him. And so the
two of them, two guys upfront, are having to work out how
to play together in a new world. And it's only been three games and

(48:40):
it will be all right. Yeah, he's going to fucking fight And I'll
tell you what, I'll give hima season because I think he's a bloody
wonderful bloke and he's a hell ofan athlete and He clearly wants to be
at the club, and he clearlywants to get it right. You can
see how much it's getting him.He's frustrated. He's not there counting his

(49:01):
money. He's you know, he'sgonna be fine. It's just it's just
it's just in his head at themoment. Isn't an ass all. He's
done it for He's done it forEverton, he's done it for Brazil.
He just needs to do it forSpurs, and I'm sure he will.
Given a run of things, hewill come good. I mean, he
scored two great goals in the WorldCup, which was only last summer,
last winter, and before that,he's you know, and he scored two

(49:23):
great goals in the Champions League forUS those two headers when he came on
and scored. Okay, I meanhe's you know, he's Brazil number number
nine. He's not there because youknow, he's fine, because he owes
money as someone or someone knows moneyhim in Brazil or something. You know,
he's he's a top player. He'strying too hard. Like I said,

(49:45):
it's in it's in his head atthe moment. Needs to sure,
yeah, yeah, and it willcome to me just it just needs a
probably one one going off his assand you know something like that. Yeah,
yeah, well, I mean,yeah, well I'll take your word
for that. But it's a bigBrazilian ars, big Brazilian ars. Yeah,

(50:05):
and it's and it's been fully waxed, so it just it will slip
off that nice and easy anyway tomorrownight and if played, he will score.
So he I mean, you've gota hat trick. Didn't forget in
the preseason. He's not a bloodydonkey. You know, you've got to
give him. You can't write himoff after three games. Yes, he

(50:25):
should have done much better. Andyou know everybody, you know, even
if you're rational and objective, wouldhave been screaming and you know, almost
putting the foot in the TV whenhe didn't score that one that he should
have made more of. But youknow, he's there's a lot of pressure
on his shoulders replacing Harry Kane.And also he knows he needs to succeed,

(50:49):
you know, he's he's he's oneof our record buyers. But it
will, it will happen. Hejust needs he just needs to feel the
love. And I like one thingthat he said, don't I get Yeah,
it's a freudent slip, I'm sure, but the fact that he said
to him, like, you know, yeah, he's I won't play him
if I don't think he's doing welland if I think he can help the

(51:10):
team he plays. In other words, I'm going to keep playing him because
the guy is really good for theteam. And you know, so he's
basically you know, I know somepeople try to interpret that as like,
you know, they need to heneeds to drop him. That's not what
I think he means. He says, I'm not just playing him out of
sympathy. M He's good. He'sexactly. He wants to win. You

(51:34):
know, his rule play is verygood. Yeah, and yeah, this
is this is the thing, isn'tit. He's he's also sort of saying
he is more than his goals,far more than his goals, you know.
And I think we will have abit of a season of this.
You know, we're going to getgoals from all over the team. And
that's no bad thing because you know, you we're gonna have to have a

(51:58):
fucking Harry Kaine sware Jar as well. Yeah, okay, this is gonna
we're gonna have a right, I'llpiss up at the end of the season,
mate. Yeah, oh, we'renot giving it a charity. Oh
yeah, sorry, they're gonna bepiss up. Yeah, Well I've lost
my train of thought now, youknow the year. Yeah, the last
few years, like we've been soreliant on Kane's goals and Son's goals,

(52:22):
you know, and great, youknow they've been they've been there, and
he's done it routinely and all ofthat stuff. But when he was injured,
it fucking terrified us all because weevery didn't we would go we're done
when we seasons over seasons over right. So if we're now building a team
where the goals are going to comefrom from, you know, we've had

(52:42):
Romero score already, Madison's already scored. You know, we've got they're coming
from Klazevski. You know, they'recoming from We've We've had scored against United,
wasn't it. You know, we'vehad it can only be good for
us to take the pressure off offRichardlison, you know. And and finally

(53:04):
talking about things to around this gameup that were good for us. The
Goons drew to Fulham, Yes,and they were and Fulham Wood down to
ten men. I know, yeah, and they still drew. Am I
getting carried away here? But Idon't think they're going to be as good
as they were last season. They'veshot their bolt that lot. Yeah.
Yeah. If they won it lastyear, they'd have been fucking they'd have

(53:28):
gone in. I think they wouldhave gone to be intolerable. Yeah.
But as being as they shot theirbolt to early last year, I think
they fucked it. Yeah. Ithink they shot their nappies. I think
they're gonna you know, they're notgoing to basically, I think this season
they'll have an okay season, butI don't think it'll be anything like last
season. My way beating Burnley thisweekend they'll be at home to Man United
struggling, so it would be great, yes, yes, yes, yes,

(53:53):
Okay. Let's talk about the finalweek of the window because it shuts
on on Friday, or as theysay, it's slammed shut on Friday.
So who do you think be coldthis week and any surprises even Paul no,
I reckon. We've got about thirtyseven players and I think the ones

(54:13):
that will go will be Reggie andand Ganga and and Don bell At hopefully
dire Laris and road on and Divinealready gone. So that's a lot this
week. Yeah, do you thinkwe can manage it this week though?
I mean that's a that's a lotto get out of the door. Well,

(54:34):
you've got five players there who areso comfortable being in Spurs and don't
want to take a drop down togo anywhere else because they're you know,
they've got the life of luxury,haven't they. Would you want to go
if you were a Spurs player exactly? You know it's hard to get these
players out. They're under contract unlessthey're contracts run out. You're starting with
them, aren't you. And noone's going to pay indoor belly three grand

(54:55):
a week or wherever it is,So we are you know what we can
do is cancel their contracts and buythem out and write them off. Did
you see any surprises Richard an outgointo or not? Now? I think
pulls it the nail on the headthere. I mean, I would personally
have liked to have seen Geo Lacelsogot out of the club as well.
But you know, he seems tobe getting a chance as a sub.

(55:17):
I don't know, maybe he willget an opportunity to be the player that
we all thought we were buy himwhen we got in. Because there is
a player in't there. He's justnever never done it for Spurs. I
can't see any any other huge surprises. I wouldn't be at all surprised if
they did just end up canceling thecontracts. We know they've done it before.
You know, they did it withsergeory A, they did it with

(55:40):
Matt Dougherty, you know. Imean, although they weren't such big contracts.
So but it could happen for Dyer. I think that might happen for
him. Yeah, And to behonest, you know, I think to
be fair to Eric Dire, itwouldn't be such a bad thing. You
know if they just said, look, you know, thanks for the memories,
mate. You know you've I mean, we've gone over Eric Dyer before.

(56:01):
I don't think we need to doit again. You know, he's
a player that's blown on and cold. But I think as a player that
that formed an identity of of thatParttino sign side. Then you know,
I've got fund memories of him.But I do think it's time that you
know, he was off, somaybe they just go, look, thanks

(56:21):
for the memories. You've done yourbit. You know, you're a free
agent. There's your bonus. Oh, how surprised with Lauris because he's been
a ten years you know, theleast he was a testimonials. Yeah,
he's been He's been amazing in thatten years. He fell away a bit
at the end, but you know, do we think something went on in

(56:43):
that, you know, that sortof game against Newcastle where it all sort
of imploded and then he was takenoff at halftime. You know, I
want to do something more than roomfor sure. I mean, who will
never know we start coming out thekissing tells so rich do you think we
lack at depth at all? I'dlike to see another another striker on the

(57:07):
bench, you know, just becauseSon and Richarlison are both prone to picking
up knocks. I mean, aswe know, Richarlison spent a huge part
of last season injured, didn't heSo even if it's a young player,
you know, I would like tosee somebody else coming up front. Well
the Twitter Twitter, Matthew, Ithink it has to be Gift Orban.

(57:29):
None of us have heard of himabout a month ago, you know,
or so, but but and he'she is pulling up trees in the Belgian
League. But let's not forget VincentJansen is pulling up trees in the in
the Belgian League, so he doesstill feel like a somewhat of a punt
if we if he went for him, and so I don't know. I
mean, I think we'll probably stickwith Richarlison. We don't really have any

(57:52):
natural backup for him. Maybe Soncould do that job. We've got vellies.
I think it's going to take alittle bit of time before he's ready,
So I wouldn't be surprised if somethingcame something, something happened around that
area. Brandon Johnson is the onethey're talking about now, isn't it.
Yeah, he doesn't play that rolethough. Does he play a sort of
more sort of sun position, isit? M hmm, Well, I

(58:15):
can see a swap happening there withone of the two with Sanchez maybe yeah.
So okay, yeah, so BrennanJohnson's apparently you know, and just
said get him at all costs.We'll see, we'll see what happens before
the end of the window. Andwe trust absolutely absolutely. So we're round
up with the preview then of theFulham game. Do we think we're going

(58:37):
to field a full strength side,or we're going to sort of make a
number of changes. Paul, You'renot shaking your head there, would would
you feel? I think. Ithink we're going to see our B team
versus their B team. Actually yeah, I mean I can see Forster being
in goal. Uh, and thenI can see whole b a Davis Royale
skip Parasitula celso solemn it gets thestill playing. Yeah, I'm sure Madison

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and the others will get arrest.I think we see some changes. I
mean, Postcoglu was saying today,I love winning. I don't care what
it is. I love winning,and player in the players know that we've
got a game on Tuesday and Iwant to win it. That's all I'm
thinking about. I don't care ifit's a cup competition or whatever it is,
playing in the car park or onthe roof. We just need to

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go out there and try to winbecause I love winning. And that will
be the message, which is greatto hear, right. I mean,
but no manager's ever going to sayI want to lose. I get that.
But but the fact is is thatgiven that message that he said so
strongly, I suspect that he's goingto go with a fairly strong side,
but make a few key changes thatmaybe let's sell so for Madison, not

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take any chances on him. Maybe. I think it'll probably keep Richie in
there, possibly Vicario, but becauseit's you know, it's been quite a
tight turnaround and it's from Saturday too. But I don't think it' pleat wholesale
changes. I wouldn't because if wedo go out on that one, I
think it will you know, Idon't think that would be a good look.
Let's keep the momentum, don't we? Yeah, so far? What

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about you? Rich? Would youwould you feel we need to win both
domestic cups this year? Yeah?They need? And the league and the
league? Rich? Yeah, Imean I think, honestly, I think
that's what he'll be thinking. Ithink, you know, he's going to
take it seriously enough. You know, they are Premier League opposition, and

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yeah, I think Paul's right.I think, you know, I reckon
they might be more inclined to fielda more defined beat team than us because
they've got bigger priorities this year,haven't Yeah. Yeah, I think they
did likewise last year, didn't they? And you know, I think they're
they're priorities that you say are reallygoing to be staying in the league.
I can see them doing a numberof changes and us doing some changes.

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Yeah, and don't forget that he'sstill you know, he's because he is
changing. And I mean whether it'swith his substitutions in gay or with his
you know, starting lineup, heis still trying things out. You know,
he's he's getting the field of hisside. So we're not going to
see an unchanged or nearly unchanged eleven. I would like to see Fraser force
to get in reasonable about a gametime because if Vicario has a bit of

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wobble or picks up a bit ofan injury, he needs to be ready
to go. And I'm a massivefan of Fraser Forster. I think,
you know, he should be playingif he's still at the club. I
mean, I know he's I know, he's nearly as old as me,
which is which is fucking old.But you know, like I think,
you know, what I know isif I have too many days off work,

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I get really creaky if I haveto go back, you know the
next day. So they've got tokeep him going, him on the field,
you know, because I think he'dbe another player to keep at the
club in retirement. Oh absolutely,But you know he could join the coaching
team as well, couldn't he know? So yeah, so we'll start with
the man that's actually going. Sowhat would you say, Paul in terms

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of match prediction, give us yourgive us your prediction. I think they're
gonna win two one, okay,and Richie boy, Yeah, I was
going to say to one as well. Yeah, yeah, I think they're
going to have a bit of ago at us early on, and they
might, they might nick a goal, but I fancy them to fancy us
to grind them down and then smashthem to You know that seeing in Game

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of Thrones where he punches his teethout and then squashes his head. That's
what the second ass gonna look like. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna say,
actually, I'm gonna put my nutson the line here and say for
one, and I think Richie isgoing to get a brace. Yeah yeah,
yeah. Anyway, on that,we'll round up. I'll do my

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usual plug for redemption. If youhaven't been get along. The next home
game, which I think is inabout three and a half year's time.
The next home game. It seemsto be a long way off at the
moment and it's just yeah, howthey've fallen. But anyway, so thank
you very much for joining US Boysand kois one you Spurs, thanks for

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inviting me on. You know,there's no place on it. If I
wouldn't, I wouldn't want to beRyan here. And you know, in
this winner of trying to bring successto one of the biggest football clubs in
the world, the basic underly lineprinciples that yea, I want my team

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to play football that scares the lifeout of every opposition. That's that's kind
of the endgame.