S4 E11 - Stop the Count

Ritch Grove and @leebrown2 discuss Fulham home, Ange's comments on 2nd half and preview the Palace away game.

Episode Transcript

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You know, there's no place Iknow if I would, I wouldn't want
to be Ryan here. And youknow, in this minute of trying to
bring success to one of the biggestfootball clubs in the world, the basic
under the line principles that I wantmy team to play football that scares the
life out of every opposition. Mate, that's that's kind of the end game.

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Welcome to the Barside Spurs podcast onceagain and once again joining us.
He is rich the thread west ofthe podcast world. I leave you to
explain that one, buddy. Youknow, mate, you've thrown me under
a bus there, haven't you undera patio? I'm not the I'm not

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actually the thread west of the podcastingworld. But they have found a body
in the canal where I live.I could just lock it put on record
that I have not killed anybody,just to make that clear. I just
want to make that clear from theoutset. It was not me. Gov.
You can't fucking prove it, andnobody saw me anywhere here. Yeah,

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I set you up with that one, didn't I? Mate? Sorry?
Yeah, okay, I suppose youbetter just get straight into the match.
Actually, pre game, when Iwas walking I went with my wife.
Actually normally I go with my son, but he couldn't make it that
night. So but as we're walkingdown the road, i'd we come out
one of the tourneys near Northumbland Park. You know, there's a sort of

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some of the cars come down thatway, don't they in the park in
the park lane, and coming aroundone of the corners being stopped physically by
some of the sort of security downthere was a Fabio Paratichi. Yes,
yes, you men about this.I didn't know if you were trying to
wind me up or what. No, no, no, he was there

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and he's jumper and having argue andI saw him. I went BlimE me
and then my wife said what youknow, did and got a clue what
I was talking about? I said, that's the don that's that's Fabio Paratgy
there and she's still non plus noclue I'm talking about. And I couldn't
actually give him a wave and hegave a way back, and I thought,

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I think he wants me to goover there and say, this is
a Fabio Paratgy. He was thedirector of football here. Let him through,
you know, because the people werewere stopping the traffic hadn't clue who
he was. Huh, bizarre,bizarre but Italian nick. Yeah, yeah,

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exactly. But it's curious, isn'tit how he's still coming to the
games. Yeah? Yeah, veryvery strange, mind you I think is
he? Is he not still doingstuff for the club as some sort of
consultant or something. Didn't they havesome setting it all up at the end?
But I mean I heard recently someonewith someone said that, you know,
all of that had come to anend. But if that has,
well, you know, would beunusual, would it not for him to

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be still sort of come into thegames? You could watch you at home?
Yeah yeah, I mean, tobe honest with you, Tottenham was
an asshole of the place to getto it the best of times, involvement
in the club, Why would youfucking do it? Yeah, he's probably
or maybe he's probably come, youknow, trying to track Levy down in
the boardroom and and throw him aa ship ton of invoices that he's that

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just kept coming back to him inthe post tweet twists aren't to write his
final check? Yeah, very oddanyway, there you are? Yeah,
well, I mean he might havegot stopped by security, but I had
l zone game get into the gameon Monday. I'll tell you, yeah,
it took me that that last sortof quarter of a mile from his

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you know, down towards where youdrop off the North Circular. Wouldn't you
know that last quarter of a miletook me as long as the as the
one hundred and something miles before itput together. Yeah, I was actually
going to be in time for abeer before the game this time, and

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I missed the kickoff yet again.But you would bring your JCB, mate,
I mean, I would have thoughtit'd be fucking quicker because out in
the countryside, you put the yellowlights on and everybody gets out your fucking
way exactly. You can just scoopthe cars up and move them on any
difference. In London, they alljust ignore you. I'm gonna get me
one of them little mopads and pretendI'm a pizza delivery boy. I won't
get through then. Yeah, yeah, that's the way, and that is

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the way anyway. So we'll getto the game. So just as the
game started, actually trumpet sounded again. Maybe a little little moan for me
on that one. I thought I'mgonna sound like a Granddaddy here. I
thought it was a bit too loudthis time, and also too early.

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It felt like it just came alittle bit too early. And then we
got that bloody Star Wars music,which I you know, I just want
to see the back of that bloodythat song. I just I just thought
that the trumpet should be just asthe game's about to kick off, not
like three or four minutes before it. It just felt a little bit anticlimactic
afterwards for me. Well, Imean, you know, like I say,

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it don't make no difference to mebecause I'm normally still fucking running,
still running down to get to thefucking ground. So all of that,
I mean, you could be talkingin a foreign language as far as I'm
concerned, because I never get tosee any of that business anymore. Well,
I mean, to be fair,there were a few people around me.
In fact, guy sits next tome regularly. His family just had

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to jump out and come in,and he had to and it took him.
He didn't get in for the firstthirty minutes. He couldn't find anywhere
to park. He said. Itwas absolute chaos and a nightmare around the
ground. So you by the soundsof it. You definitely weren't the only
one. Mate. No, no, well I don't know whether or not.
Like I said, I don't wantto spend the entire podcast talking about
the North Circular, but there seemedto be a problem anyway because great guns
up until up until that last junction. But but anyway, yeah, it's

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a common it's it's a current commonoccurrence with me. Often I'm late because
of work, you know. Andthere's a standing joke in between my mate
Chris and myself that you know thatthey'll throw me a party if I ever
make fucking kick off. Oh well, you know, never mind. At

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least you got to the game.Anyway. It's a fair old troten it
for you to come there, soyou know, we weekday games are a
bit of a nightmare. But anyway, so yeah, I don't know anything
about all this trumpet business. Lastlast time, last thing. I remember
getting there early. It was stillRoger Lloyd Pack doing his flicks and tricks.
But anyway, so we we'll getstraight into the game then. So

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did you have any sort of kindof apprehensive feelings for this particular game.
I mean it should have been aformality, shouldn't That's what everyone was sort
of leading us to think. Buthow are you feeling vibe ways about it?
No, I thought this was goingto be a bit of a walkover.
In fact, I expected us toscore far more goals than we actually
did, especially after what happened inthe League Cup. Yeah. Yeah,

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I mean it felt like a bitof a revenge mission for that, didn't
it, Because we were dreadful inthat game. Well you know, I
mean, we've got what we deservefor making so many changes. Really,
but yeah, I didn't have anyconcerns coming into this game at all,
and you know that that feeling wasborn out. You know, I think
we controlled the whole thing from startingto finish, didn't we. It was

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It was an absolute sort of masterclassin how to sort of hold a team
off effectively. And that's pretty muchwhat I expected. I'm just not so,
I'm just sorry we didn't score more. Yeah, I mean, I
must admit, I just I justadd in the back of my mind at
the start of the game, thought, you know, what, it depends
on how we start out on theI mean, Fulham were known mugs,

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I mean the mid mid table,and and I was having one of those
little wobbly moments that you know whenyou kind of because you know, we've
been there seeing it and got thebloody T shirt and I was just thinking,
is this the time when the wheelscome off? So, I mean
I was generally, you know,positive overall, but I was hoping for
an early goal which didn't quite come. But we did it once again.

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I thought in the first half wekind of threw the kitchen syncome, didn't
We had it. We had aright good go at me in that first
half. And what your thoughts generallyon on on the first half, you
know, there are sort of impetusand the way we approached it, you
know, aside from some of theprofligate finishing, I thought it was.
It was a perfect forty five minutesof football, really, you know,

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I mean, I I mean,I might be reading a bit too much
into this because I sort of lookedat, you know, a couple of
those wasted chances, particularly the Kulezevskyone when he comes in, you know,
right up to the six yard boxfrom the right there and somehow,
you know, manages to try andpass it. I thought across the box

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to Richarlison, who was on theother side, of the goal. It
seemed to me that on one ortwo occasions they were trying very hard to
get the ball to Richardlison in scoringpositions. Yeah, and you know,
maybe, like I say, it'smaybe me being reading too much into it
and being aware of all the thingsthat's going around Richie at the moment and
all that, and thinking they're tryingto help him get a goal, get

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it off his back, get himinto the swing of it, which of
course is understandable. But you know, really and truly they should have been
fucking burying some of them themselves.And that Kole Sewsky one in particular.
Oh yeah, you know, Imean it was harder. I don't know,
I mean you could have he couldhave tripped and fallen and stumbled over
the fucking ball and still got itin the net from where he was.
You know. Yeah, well,I mean we might look at that one

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because I and obviously that was towardsthe end of the first half. I
honestly, you know, I can'tI couldn't stop talking about it. And
then then even the next day,I'm thinking, why did he just not
shoot? That was the game thatwas because it felt that way, didn't
I mean, I agree with you, but I sort of settled down quite
quickly once I saw the way wewere approaching it that first half in particular.
We'll come on to a second halfin a minute, but I just

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felt that we were you know,we we just had this game and I
thought, you know, one goalwas was good, but two goals there,
I thought that was it that youknow, we got the game wrapped
up, because they just didn't looklike they were you know, capable,
you know, really of you know, doing too much to us. I

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mean, William was the pantomime villain, wasn't he through it? And throughout
every time he touched the ball hegot booed and there were some lovely tackles
from Van Deven on him. Infact, there was one I think in
in that first half where he washe looked like he was about to get
through and vander n sort of likebelted it there and just took the ball

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off him. It's amazing. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I think I
think the thing with it was,you know, oddly enough, my neighbor
here is a Fulham fan, andI was talking to him about it after
the game, and I I hadn'trealized that Raoul Lemanez is coming back from
an injury, because I said theywere toothless. Really, I said,

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you appear to be relying an awfullot on William and he's a busted flush
now. I mean, he heruns around a lot, but he can't
you know, whether it's that he'slosing a bit of an edge, whether
it's the team around him, whetherit's the tactics, whether it's a combination
of all them things. But hejust seems to be this kind of busy

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nobody, you know, he sortof runs circles and didn't do anything with
it. And I said to Chrishere about it, you know, and
he said, oh well, hesaid, you know, he said,
I think you know they're having torely on him a lot, he said,
you know him and As has justcome back from injury, so he's
not properly fit, you know.And it kind of shows how threadbare they
are. And I think I thinkthe game sort of showed that because we

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were sort of holding them off effectively, weren't we. I mean that one
chance, you know, Mickey Vandervenrunning back, you know, that was
fucking beautiful, you know. Yeah, we were all sort of sat that
because I was up in the godsin the Paxton and and so we sort
of looked down over it as itas it as it came, and and
everybody around me went fucking hell.You know, you just think like how

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many other Spurs center hafts would havebeen caught flat footed from that and would
not have got anywhere near him.You know, He's not just rapid,
though, is he. He's likehe's a he's a really good footballer.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, reallyreally good. I mean and I think
you know, other people have saidthis as well before, but I think

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it shows how much confidence the othershave got in him already. You can
see how much Christian Romero is.Yeah, yeah, he seems to be
more assured. His game seems tobe more assured. And I'm sort of
looking at that and thinking it's becausehe's not constantly looking over his shoulder thinking
whether the is Eric Dyer or wherethe fuck is David Sanchez. You know,

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he knows that there's this other guy'shere who's going to sort of get
he's got his back, you know, yeah. Yeah, And and and
on that front, actually, Imean I thought I thought Romero had an
also an absolutely terrific game. Imean, there were some amazing sort of
tackles and headers and I thought heI thought he was imperious. So you
know, it feels like, youknow, we we've kind of somehow got

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ourselves back. Five include Vicario,who were light years ahead of what we
had last season. It's almost incomprehensiblehow how much better they all are than
last season. I mean obviously thata number of them a new players,
but what what a contrast considering like, you know, within that short space

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of time we're talking like nine gamesin a couple of pre seasons. H
you've got one of the best defensesin the Premier League. I mean not,
you know not. And that's notjust subjectivity that that's statistics. Mm
hmmm, yeah, I did.I was reflecting on this afterwards, actually
walking back to the car that youknow, and I should make this absolutely

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clear from the outset that I'm notdrawing a direct comparison in between the two
the two sort of defenses, butI remember that I was walking back to
the car thinking I've not been ascalm under under attack as as in the
sort of heyday of aldavra Eld andVertongan. You know, whatever happened,
you would sort of look at themand think Toby's got that. You know,

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there'd almost be a sort of nonchalancein it. As a spectator.
Well you know, they might turnone, but they might they ain't going
to get past the other one,you know. And I'm beginning to feel
a little bit like that now inthe respect that, like you say,
this time last year, I've allhad come over the top and you think,
fuck, you know, here wego. I mean, the only
weak link we've got in that wholesystem, you know, that whole back

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five is the fact that we don'thave any back up in case one of
those gets injured. That that's theonly weakness, because the whole lot of
them are absolutely incredible. I meanthey're they're you know, they're they're equally
brilliant. I mean Doggie Romero Vicariothat you know obviously Van der Ven I

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mean a Poro you know, hasbeen biggest surprise for me, the way
he's adapted. He's he's a realleader. I mean, you can I
mean when you see you don't reallysee it on the TV, when you're
at the games, you see himoff the ball like geeing up everyone and
you know, shoulder charge them.And he really takes his job, like
we said this in previous possible,he really takes his job as a defender

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very very seriously. And and andthat keeps everyone on their toes. You
know, it's very you know,we're a unit, and you know they
see that. You can say there'sa real identity there amongst them all that
they look like they're proud of doingthat role. Yeah, And it's funny,
isn't it to think that, youknow, so many of those players,

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Poro being a prime example, camein while Conte was still in charge
of the club. And you know, I mean obviously he sort of came
in at the end of January,so there's a very small sort of window
there and then it all sort ofwell, it had already gone to shit
in reality, hadn't it. Butthen of course all the managerial changes started.
But you know, he didn't fromthe outset. He didn't seem to

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look like he fitted anywhere. Hedidn't seem to look like he really wanted
to be there. You know,you know, we were all sort of
scratching our EDGs, wondering why webought him. He'd sort of looked like
he'd been scratching his head wondering howhe got there in the space of eight
or nine months, you know,a vastly improved player. And you sort
of go through the members of thatthat sort of first team that are still

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there from that time, and youthink there isn't one of them whose game
hasn't drastically improved, and you've gotto ask what the hell was going on
at the club at the start ofthe year. I think, I mean,
it's it's very, very difficult,isn't it. I think it also,
you know, speaks volumes about theimportance of a good man manager and

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motivator. Obviously tactically he's his ideasare different, but there's just something extra
as a dimension about the players themselves. They look taller, they grow,
and you know, and again i'mi'm you know, I'm I'm speaking generally
about the players, because a lotsome of those haven't weren't there under conteent.

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But but just something about the waythat we we feel about ourselves.
You know that I suppose it's difficultto really know what's gone on, but
you know, you're reading behind thelines, you know, based upon some
of the stuff we've read, we'veseen, and we've talked about before,

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but you feel that there's and youknow, there's this real element not just
of a you know, a collectivesense amongst them and they're talking about the
club like you know, you sawthat tweet that came out with James Madison.
He's got you know, that thespur up, the spurs behind him,
you know, and he's in thiskind of that he gets it kind
of vibe right like and gets it. Madison gets it. Son gets it.

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We haven't had that for ages.But one of the one of the
worst aspects about Conte and you know, let's a bit right. You know,
he has been a world class managerbefore, but some people just don't
fit. But was that was washe didn't get it and the fact that
he he always made us feel andthe players feel like we just weren't good

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enough. And you get the exactlythe opposite. I mean, you know,
there there's a lot of players therethat are quite not only in experience
in the league, but young players, and yet you wouldn't know it.
And that has to come down toAng and the way that he you know,
approaches the game and and and theway that he instills a belief and

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maybe we just got you know,maybe we've got lucky in terms of some
of that recruitment, but also withAnge and being this perfect motivative for the
type of player, maybe he needsthat kind of younger player to mold and
who will just completely trust in himbecause that style needs ultimately, you know,

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full on trust, doesn't it.But I just feel that, you
know, you know, we'll talkabout this later on. This could we
vib right that's going around at themoment, but it just but there's some
there's something happening. It feels,doesn't it. Or you know, maybe
I'm being a kind of optimistic here, but it feels like something's happening.

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Well, something is happening. We'reall enjoying football again. Well exactly,
if that's it, If that's allit is, it's amazing. And you
know, and all these celebration policethat are just telling us don't get over
exciting, fuck that. Yeah.Yeah, i'mentitled to bloody you know,
enjoy what I'm watching and get excited. And yeah, I've seen so much

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shit the last few years. Imean, I know I've said this before.
My reaction to all these people isalways the same, fuck off and
mind your own business. You know, it's kind nothing to do with anybody
else, how much we enjoy itor don't enjoy it, you know,
and you do you hear it?Oh yeah, you're fucking celebrating like you've
won some already empty trophy cabinet andall that, and I just think you
fucking lose us. Go and getinvolved in something important, you know,

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fu fuck off and leave me alone. Children. It's probably because they're scared,
do you know. I mean,to some degree, if we're honest,
we probably did a little bit thesame with Arsenal last year, did
we, You know, the factthat out there they've not played anyone yet
and all that kind of stuff.But you know, and ultimately they did
ship the bed, which was great. But yeah, but you know that

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there's there's there's just that real sensethat we all love each other again,
you know, love we love theplayers, the club, the manager,
the fans are ugging each other andthat kind of stuff. Is that that
does have an impact on on onon a direction of travel. I think,
yeah, yeah, of course itdoes. Of course it does.

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And you know, like we've sortof said before, the thing about Angizzi
seems to understand this, yeah,yeah, and he's mining it and good,
you know, and he's clever atdoing that. And I wonder if
that sort of antipothy and thing wherethey you know, obviously there their sports
are tending to be rugby and allthat kind of stuff. A lot of
that psychology is used in those games, and he's maybe brought some of that
to it, maybe perhaps well yeah, yeah, I mean it seems like

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a very astute managerial appointment now,doesn't it very much? So? And
and let's hope that that that continues, all right? Getting back to the
game, shall we. So Richiehas a side for effort that left me
shut and you prick on he justgoes wirde and I'm thinking, how did

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he miss that? I mean,come on, you've got to get that
on target? And he and helooked. I thought a little bit kind
of sorry for himself. That said. Afterwards, I thought he had a
bloody great game. You know,there was that that that moment that put
my head in my hands. Butafter that, I just thought, he
you know, he did start togrow into that that that position. But

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what do you make of him playingout on that left rich well, I
mean that, Yeah, we allhad a bit of a groan at that
chance, didn't we are said tothe bloke next to me that he couldn't
buy a dose of the clap ina brothel, could he? At the
minute? That bloke he's got,you know, he's got no look,
he's the shades of Soldado finishing abouthim at the minute, you know.
And it's because we be we tryto stick up for him, and't we.

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But yeah, no, don't doubtI mean, I mean there's two
things to say. The first thingis never ever be scared of hypocrisyly,
you know. And the other thingis I am still largely going to defend
him because I think he's fucking blindinggame. And if you look at some
of the chase him back and someof the some of the crucial critical tackles
in the in the middle of thepark and in and around our area,

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it was Richarlison, right. Imean, he never stops moving. And
the thing that you can say tohim is, yeah, you know what,
like he couldn't get the side ofa barn with a blunderbuss at the
minute when it comes to score inBut he sure as hell is contributing a
lot to the overall team and tothe game. So you can't say,

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even though he's not putting the ballin the net, you cannot say that
it's a wasted space in the startingeleven because he runs his fucking heart out.
He never stops. And yeah,you can see his head going down
when he hits Rose again, andyou can see that, you can hear
the jeers and the and everybody goesoff for fuck sake, but his shoulders
never drop. He gets up,and nine times out of ten after he's

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after he's really really missed something,he runs down the other end of the
pitch and kicks the shit out ofsomebody. And I love that. Well,
you know what I mean. Heis a skillful player and he years
obviously is a lot of people pointedout a confidence player. But one word
I think also characterizes him is industrious. Yeah, he just he just is
relentless. And I think and Ithink that role maybe we just have to

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readjust like thinking, Okay, wethought he would be the cane replacement that
strikes not like Somen deserves to bethere. And if he chips in you
know, seven eight nine goals inthe season, but he plays like that,
we just sort of loads of industryand you know, and sets up.
Because he set up, we getonto that goal now. But you
know, it was a bit abit of pressing by vander Ven. I

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must mention that because I thought thatwas exceptional. And then he passes it
to Richie. Richie finds a space. Richie then sets him up, so
it's a nice assist. And thenof course, you know when when when
you see son shape up like that, you you know he's going to cull
one in the top. Yeah,yeah, you know, it was it
was beautiful, and you know,yeah, I mean the question you originally

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asked me is how do I thinkhe's playing in that role on the left.
And I think, you know,on the balance of all the evidence,
I think he's doing a really goodjob. Yeah, yeah, you
know, yeah, that's it.Maybe, as I say, maybe we
just we just kind of readjust herthat instead about being on his case because
he's not scoring enough goals, thathe's actually contributing enough to the team.
That's that that's that's that's his benefit, that's he's that's his upside. Well,

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I think, you know, ifyou can say one thing about the
way the team is set up atthe moment, it seems to be deliberately
constructed around the idea that it's nobody'sresponsibility to put the ball in the It's
everybody's responsibility. And so, youknow, rather than having that Harry Kane
type focal point, as you know, Caine's going to get thirty of them
in a year and he's going toyou get it into him and he will

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stick it in the net. Thatyou know, Madison's already got a few
sons started to racker. I thinkhe's probably already scored more than he scored
last season. You know. Yeah, they're coming from defense, They're coming
from all over the pitch, youknow, and that collective responsibility of scoring
goals is probably the best way thatwe cannot only counter Richarlison's supposed drought,

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and like you say, if we'rethinking about him in a different role,
then we have to question whether itis actually a drought. But it's also
the best way for us to combatthe possible side effects of us not having
another center forward sitting on the benchto cover for injury. Mm hmmm,
yeah, yeah, good point.What about talking about our center forwards?

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I mean, maybe it looked differenton TV. I don't know, But
for me in the ground, Sonnylooked like he had been brought down for
a pen. But then it wasbrought and it was right on the edge
of the box. I was convincedthat was a pen. I was going
to VR but nothing. But didit seem like a pen to you or
well? I thought it was outsidethe box from from your own yeah,

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yeah, from where from where wherewe was at, which was sort of
was above the corner. I thoughtit, you know, tight, but
I didn't think it was inside.Yeah. Yeah. To be honest with
you, I've forgotten all about it. So now you mention it. Yeah
I do. I do remember,but I don't. It's not something that
was pivotal enough either way for itto be stuck in my memory that I

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thought that. You know, I'vemade a note to bring it to this
if you know what I mean.Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But if we if we look ata player that I thought had a good
game, but as a replacement forBursuma Hoiberg, what did you think about
him? Was he enabled deputy forthe game? Do you think? Yeah?
I think he. I think hedid a job, didn't he?

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I think the best thing that Ican say about him is that I don't
have anything to say about him eitherway, you know, apart from the
fact that he nearly did a pursumerand got sent off. Yeah, because
he had a dive in the box. Didn't he remember that? He was
like, he's got his yellow cardand then he's on that, and then
later on he sort of fell overin the box and I think the ref

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was going to get a yellow cardout and then he realized he'd given him
a yellow and he would be off, and he changed his mind. That
for this time, I thought,because we look at that the ref,
I thought he had a good gameand he used his intelligence there to think,
no, this not you know,that would that would spoil the game
and it would be a bit harsh, whereas the last game. Obviously the

(28:38):
refsent Bumer off with that one.But yeah, that was the only thing.
I thought he was going to repeatwhat Basuma did and nearly got,
you know, he nearly used thedaft arts as we called it last time.
Yeah. Yeah, I will sortof say on that though. I
think the referee, although I won'tpretend to have remembered if reinjured and that

(29:00):
I see. And obviously when youtalk about referee, there's always somebody on
the internet that goes, oh,well, actually, you know, there
was this obvious mistake that you haven'tremembered. But but I think in general
he handled a lot of the consideredyou know, talking about diving and simulation
throughout the game. I thought hehandled it really well on both sides,
because it just seemed to ignore it. Yeah, And it was a little

(29:22):
bit of play acting, wasn't there. Yeah, And as the game went
on, you notice that, youknow, players that go down and go
oh, you know, there's somuch My children are crying, you know,
and then they realized the game hasmoved on, and they suddenly go,
oh, fuck it, I'm allright, you know, and they
go. And I was sat therewatching that, thinking there needs to be
a lot more of this, youknow, just ignore it, you know,

(29:45):
don't be of course you're not injured, you know. And then you
know, the one time that itreally did need I think it was Papsar
wasn't It went down and he andhe and he did stop. I mean
obviously they played, they carried fora bit and then put the ball out
of play. But he did bringallowed the time then, so so I
think, you know, I justyou know, I wanted to make just

(30:07):
a note of it on it becauseI thought he did really well with that,
because I mean, we're not innocentof it by any streatedy imagination,
you know, obviously, which iswhy I presumer wasn't playing on Monday.
But but I think Fulham really didtry to sort of slow the game down
and get it stopped for niggling.Oh my god, he's he looked at
me, funny, I must beinjured. Yeah, And he wasn't having

(30:32):
any of it, and I thought, fair play to you. And when
when the ref plays like that,you then you don't really notice the ref
because he's not getting involved in everything. He's just letting it go. And
that's that, I think, whenyou know your ref done a good job,
when when you're barely having to talkabout the ref because it's not been
their show, if you know whatI mean. They've been splashing the cards

(30:53):
and sending people off and and pullingpeople back for things they probably shouldn't have
and you know it's just using thecommon sense. Yeah, yeah, very
much, so very much. So, I mean I was I was very
gratified to see. That's how itwas all being handled anyway. But yeah,
yeah, and then we I missedthis. I didn't realize they were

(31:15):
going to do it, but i'dgone out onto the concourse at halftime,
and then I saw your message thatthey did a lovely tribute to Pete Hayin.
Yeah, yeah, he did.He said a few words about Pete.
It was very nice, right atthe very start of the half time
break, so I think it wasright at the very start anyway, it

(31:36):
was. It was certainly before theywent on and did the whole Bobby Charlton,
but you know, so yeah,I was pleased that they did that.
You know, I think I thinkPete, Pete lived and breathed the
club, and I think it's onlyfitting that he should have had a mention
in dispatches. And Kite said that, you know that he knew Pete,

(32:00):
and Peter put his life and tollinto the club, and you know,
his sorts are with his family andwhat have you, and I thought it
was nicely done. So yeah,so yeah, yeah, that's good.
Well down the club, I thinksome people were trying to organize a round
applause in the sixty seventh minute,but I didn't notice that personally, but
where I was anyway, No,no, I can't say I didn't know

(32:21):
anything about it. So yeah,no, anyway, so we go,
we go on to the second half, and I thought, I'll get your
thoughts in general on it, butI just personally, I thought we kind
of took our foot off the gasa little bit, and Fulham grew in
confidence, and then we sort ofhad to see Vicario spring into action,
who I thought pulled off a coupleof absolutely amazing saves, one of them

(32:45):
from a header that I thought wasI absolutely nailed on. I think that
was actually coming with that was thefirst or the second half now, but
I know he had a couple ofgreat saves that he did. But I
just thought, overall, we Ithink we kind of It's not that we

(33:05):
weren't sort of, you know,working hard and pressing, but we'll come
on to this. But Ange commentedon it as well, But I just
felt that we kind of like outof possession, eased off a lot and
that sort of allowed the impetus toswing their way in at various points and
they could have scored and you knowthat, you know, it wouldn't have

(33:27):
been surprised if they if they wouldhave got one. But as I say,
the Carrio came to the rescue.What did you feel, did I
mean, did you feel that thesecond half contrasted with the first half?
To you, Yeah, I meanI thought, to be honest with your
I kind of expected it because ofcourse we play again on Friday night,
you know, I mean, interms of our season of fixtures, it's

(33:51):
quite a quick turnaround. Yeah,and you know so, so I wondered
if there was a little bit ofthe tactical about that. I expected it.
The one thing I will say is, yeah, you know, I
agree completely that I think there wasfar less impetus, especially after the second
goal. There were one or twowhat you might call hairy moments, but

(34:16):
of course they were. They wereplaying towards me where I was sat in
the second half, and although therewas one or two time, there were
actually one or two times when Ithought we'd have let that one in last
year. I wasn't overly concerned.Me arn't right, never really got going,
you know, even when you knowthey were sort of breaking, turning

(34:36):
us round and breaking over the topof us and what have you. You
know, it had sort of comedown to Willian or you know, they
very quickly covered with get back.So yeah, you know, they obviously
did have chances. But but Idon't remember being massively concerned about it.
But the one thing I will sayis that because they were we were attacking

(34:57):
away from where I was sitting.I didn't notice it so much in the
first half, but when they wereplaying towards the park lane, I noticed
how high our residual position is,how high we set that line where the
last man is, and where wecontrolled. We seemed to be controlling.

(35:20):
I just want to sort of coinan almost Mourinho phrase now, which is
resting, resting without the ball andrestling with the whether we were in or
out of possession, there seemed tobe an awful lot of holding them at
arm's length. And that I meanwe had a really high line for huge
periods of time when we were inpossession of the ball without any attacking outlets,

(35:43):
we seemed to channel it into theirright back zone, which seemed to
be like a real point of weaknessfor them, And that seemed to be
like a really really effective holding placefor us to have the ball while we
shaped and poured people about and triedto make space, and aside from that,
they were obviously trying to push andturn on the break and come over
the top of us, or comethrough us quickly to get, you know,

(36:07):
a goal, like I say,on the break. But what actually
happened, or what I could seefrom where I was sitting, or what
it looked like from where I wassitting, was because we were squeezing them
between these two thirds of the pitch. Their entire team seemed to sit in
a slither either side of the halfway line for huge periods of that second

(36:27):
half, and it was like theycouldn't fucking get the ball out from between
them. They were all in oneplace, and from where I was watching,
it just seemed like like you can'tlay a glove on us one way
or the other. You know,we're not breaking quickly to try and convert
opportunities into goals quickly, as we'vebeen known to do in years. We're

(36:50):
not playing total possession football and passingit around and try to bore you to
death by doing it, you know, the sort of Guardian all away or
whatever. You But but what wehave done is we've squeezed you, and
you've come here thinking you're going topack the midfield and then get hit us
on the brake. And what we'veactually done is use that against you because

(37:12):
you're player already operating in a tightspace and we're just making it slowly ever
tighter. Each time we turn youaround, that space gets a little bit
more and more squeezed, and theyget a little bit more compressed. And
I just thought, fucking and ifthat's what they're doing, that is that's
beautiful. It's really done, youknow, because they're exerting no effort in
the game. They're not having tochase at their goal to keep them almost

(37:36):
like a boxer kind of like abit of tactics, really just keep them
my arm's length and just sort ofjabbing away in that kind of stuff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, resta bit rest of it. You don't
have to be you don't have tobe directly pressing. You can press them
out of possession. You don't haveto be on the break all the time,
especially if you're already there, becausewhen that gap does open, as
we see for the second goal,you know, like it came over quite

(38:00):
quickly and it turned around and allof a sudden the space was there and
he was moving and it was inbut you know, it's it was.
I mean, I thought it wasgreat. It was great. I've not
seen us handle a game like thatin person in a long time. Yeah.
Yeah, no, no, Imean I agree. I'm not sure
Angel fully agree, but we'll comeon to that now. Yeah. Yeah,

(38:23):
yeah. So we then ended upscoring Madison put through by Son and
then Madison scores a lovely goal andwhich had me and the missus doing the
darts celebration in the crowd, whichwas everyone was like a few thank god.

(38:44):
Yeah. I think we all realizedat that point. Then okay,
you know, that's that's that's game. And even though I think it was
what a fifty fifth minute or something, wasn't it. Yeah Yeah, But
then I you know, we,like you say, we go back to
that sort of last point. Ithink that was a sort of point well
made actually, how we sort ofkept my arm's length and kind of like
compressed him in that midfield area andthey just there was there, there were

(39:07):
you know that there was no wayfor them really to make much of an
impact. They have then passed,and I thought they had a you know,
a you know, they seemed tohave a reasonable amount of the ball
actually at certain points, but theyjust couldn't do much with it. And
but that that's what I think whenI was referring to what Ange was saying,

(39:28):
I'm not actually sure and is thinkingalong the same lines as we were
thinking when you were sort of mentioningabout what we were doing sort of tactically
in that midfield. Because he hesaid in his sort of various press conferences
that he thought we played well inthe first half, not so well in
the second half. And the reasonwhy he was very disappointed with the way

(39:51):
we played in the second half isbecause not not because we lacked industry,
you know, with the with theball, we thought we sort of pressed
sorry with the ball, we thoughtwe sort of were okay, but less
so without the ball, And hethought that at that point we maybe became
a bit complacent and wasn't what he'sbeen trying to get into them. And

(40:13):
I think you could see the kindof like frustration in his face. That's
because everyone was saying, you know, professional job, job well done.
You know, he got a gameon Friday, so you obviously you know
you've made the subs and all thatkind of stuff. With that in mind,
but he seemed to think, well, actually, that's not really the
way I like to play, youknow, because he's always famed for this
kind of you know, we neverstopped foot on you know, the foot

(40:37):
on their throat kind of stuff.And but I do wonder, like you
mentioned as well about the subs,whether that was one of the reasons,
because we we did make quite alot of subs, whether that was one
of the reasons for the change insort of impetus and you know that that
sort of changing dynamic in the game. Do you think or or maybe was
it just that we did become complacenta bit? Why it might have been

(40:59):
a common a combination of both reallymightn't. I mean, I think if
you look at the players, whenyou know, obviously you replaced that entire
free when you take Richardison off,you lose all of the industry. That
was probably the you know, betweenbetween Madison's passing and rich Arlison's generally just
being an absolute pain in the arsto everybody. Those are the two big

(41:22):
catalysts for for us, pushing theball forwards and you know, convert in
possession into scoring opportunities. And Ithink for you know, for him,
to replace that front line and forus to then expect to be able to
just transition to you know, differentpersonnel without any change in dynamic, especially

(41:43):
when it's those players. I thinkis optimistic in a game like that.
I mean, I think at thatpoint there was nothing riding on the game,
was there. I mean, hadscored. Even if they were you
know, if we were too oneup instead of two nil up, it
might have been different because as theremight have been more of a of an
obvious you know, need or requirementto push things on. But I don't

(42:07):
know, I mean, you know, it was it was getting on for
our past nine on Friday night,on Monday night by the sort of going
now. But I mean I supposethat's a difference. You know, we
we we see it as a sortof professional job, and sees it that's
you know, not you know,if you like, in line with statylistically,

(42:31):
how how he sees the game beingplayed. I like that. Actually
there's there's an element of that whichI think speaks volumes of his mentality.
You know that even though we've doneyou know, a bang up professional job,
they're still not good enough and it'sstill not where he wants us to
be and he's I think he's beenat pains. Doesn't it to state that

(42:52):
we are very early in all ofthis process, and you know, I'm
not telling fans how to think ofwhatever is, So get you know,
get carried away, enjoy yourself,but also know that you know, we
we we asked hell early in termsof the way I want us to play
consistently, and also in terms ofsquad development. So I mean there's a

(43:14):
lot of so much to be excitedabout in terms of if this is where
we are now, you know,and when he gets that fully into the
way we play, and then ofcourse you know where he rebuilds the next
you know, two or three transferwindows. I think he's going to be
very very exciting times. Yeah,yeah, And I mean on that,

(43:36):
I think if you know, howdo you have come out and gone,
yeah, that was job well done, that was exactly what we wanted,
then I think you'd be worried,wouldn't you, Because, like you say,
are only nine games, nine nineleague games into this into this first
season of his and you would expectthat, you know, there is still
a lot of improvement to come.So so I think it's all encouraging you

(43:58):
know. I mean I think,you know, I don't think there's any
playing politic in it from his perspective, is there. You know, he's
not sort of giving it the well, you know, it could be better,
you know, like some managers areall are never happy. I think
it's at assessment of the factor.Yeah, you know, there were one
or two opportunities that they had toscore that they shouldn't have been given.

(44:20):
Yeah, and yeah that he's kindof highlighting. That keeps us all grounded.
And I think it is it isa very positive way of looking at
it, that it'll do for now, but it's not it's not how we
want it. I mean, youknow, the reality is he might only
have been happy if we'd come runningout six nil winners, you know.
But if that's what he's expecting,then I'm all for that. Yeah,

(44:43):
yeah, exactly. Yeah, Imean, you know that it's only to
be admired, isn't it really?And you know, and I suppose what
he's just sending out a message toeveryone and to the players and through the
media and to everyone. Look,this is this is how we see the
game being played, you know.And to be fair, you know that
I suppose if you think about it, those top teams like Man City,

(45:05):
that's that's how they play that there'sno sympathy, there's no resting, there's
no let's just manage the game.They do put their throat foot on the
on the throat of the opposition,no matter what the standard, what the
team is. They all look hungry, don't they, you know, for
possession and for goals. And Ithink that the top top teams do.
They're they're there, they're they're they'rerelentless. And I think that's kind of

(45:30):
what he wants us to be,that relentless beast who just doesn't take any
pity on the opposition, just youyou know, as as what's it's called,
what's that game called Mortal Kombat.He wants you to go out there
and finish it. Yeah, Imean I I think the other thing about

(45:54):
it in context is as well,is is that without even looking to to
recent champions like Man City and Liverpoolare also a team that will do it
to you. You know, theydon't sort of sit back at wan to
tune it up and go right,that's the job done. That's one thing
you look at those who are ourbiggest challengers for placement in the table at

(46:17):
the end of the year. Newcastleare routinely putting off of dozen goals past
people. It's going to be agood season and if it's going to be
tight, it might come down togoal difference, you know, a Champions
League or anything else, you know, And so I think it's only right
that we go out there and putthese sides to the swords sort if we

(46:37):
can, because you know, ifwe miss out, let's say, if
we have you know, going backto our expectations before the season kicked off
and us all saying, well,it'd be good to get into the Champions
League spaces again. And if weended up missing out on a Champions League
spot next year on goal difference,because you know we've taken our foot off

(46:58):
the pedal two or three matches usthis season, then fucking I we'll all
be kicking ourselves. So I thinkit's right that that's how he looks at
it. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And just going back to me saying
that they know we made quite anumber of subs. With the Palace game
in mind, let's jump ahead thento the Palace game on Friday, which
is we're recording this on the Wednesday. It's pretty soon, so I believe

(47:27):
they have two key players missing.I can't remember the second one, but
I think as one of them.So that goes in our favor. We
should have Bis back, assume itshould be back. Yeah. Yeah,
and maybe even Benton Cook could makethe bench to Reckon. Yeah. I
mean, I was just going tosay, he's getting really close now,
isn't it. And it'll be interestingto see how they integrate him, you

(47:51):
know. I mean, it's nicethat we're not desperate for him to come
back, because one of the thingsthat we've been guilty of doing over the
last few years is rushing key playersback from injury, and then they've never
really been the same ever since.You know, I mean, whose place
does he take though the men ifhe comes in. I'm assuming Sar,
but that would be pretty harsh.Well, I mean, Soar looked like
he was carrying a bit of anot, didn't he when he went off.

(48:14):
Yeah, I think he was.Yeah, I mean, I don't
know. It'd be interesting to seehow he plays in a fully functional midfield
alongside Persumer, because I mean,you know, before he got injured,
we were all wowed at his technicalability. I mean, we'd have two
beautiful ball playing midfielders in the centerof the park. If they can pare
her up, well, maybe they'llneed to rotate. Maybe they will just

(48:37):
offer, you know, different thingsto a game, and that'll allow us
to have a little bit of varietyin the way that we set up.
I don't know, but I wouldbe really pleased for us, while we
are not desperate for to be playinghim, to see him phase back in
in a really careful way, becausethat was a nasty injury and it could
change the way that he plays ifwe don't manage it well, which you

(48:58):
know we'd like. I say,we've been famous for doing it badly in
the past. I mean, asfor Palace, they're having a rare old
time at the minute, and anyway, I mean they've had a few bad
results, haven't They played off thepark at Newcastle recently? And I think
you said you owed me a bollocking, Is that right? Well? I

(49:20):
was going to bring this up becauseyou said you went into this game full
of nerves and I thought, thisis this is on the weekend. Yeah,
because I said, yeah, Idon't make the fucking rules right.
You don't go on to a publicforum like a WhatsApp chat and say things

(49:43):
like we're going to be five pointsclear by the weekend. Come in because
it's us. We're realists, youknow, we know that they're attempted too
much fun. Yeah, I didfor the benefit of the listeners. I
got right royally bullied on my WhatsAppthree for these guys who were just telling
me shut the fuck up. Youknow, don't say that. Don't say

(50:06):
uh yeah, no, I youknow, to be honest, it was
tongue in cheek. I keep expectinga banana skin as well, which is
why I was a bit nervous onMonday. I'll be nervous again a little
bit on Friday, even though logictells me we'll have too much for them.
But but yeah, we rich wecould go five points fucking clear after

(50:30):
playing ten games. I mean,okay, that's you know, the still
a long long way to go.But you know, already we've got a
manager who is the best ever inthe Premier League as a new manager in
terms of starts, the best everin the history of the Premier League.

(50:51):
That's nothing to be sniffed at already, that that is the case. If
we go five points clear on Friday, which we could. Hm, that's
that that that feels to me likea little bit of a sort of moment
for us in terms of self belief. Yeah, I mean, I think
it's a pivotal game, isn't it? Away at Cellurst is never it's never

(51:14):
gonna depending, you know, regardlessof their form. They are a little
bit toothless because of injuries. They'rein a run, in a bad run
of form. But you know,let's not let's not grant them too many
plaudits. They are, from whatI've seen of them this year, fucking
woeful, you know. I mean, they've gone back to Roy Rogerson,

(51:37):
who we've all got a lot oftime for because he appears to be a
gentleman and he's and he's an ambassadorof the game and and all of these
things. But you know, Imean, they're not a team that's evolving.
They're a team that's in a holdingpattern. You know, they're losing,
They're losing pivotal players year on year. They don't really appear to have
a huge amount of identity, andwe should be taking them. You know,

(52:00):
I expect it will be far tightto the Monday's game, But I
do expect that we'll come away,and even if we come away from that
with a point, that means wego into the weekend three points clear of
the second place team, which means, you know, depending on how many
goals are scored and conceded in anyof their games, you know, you

(52:21):
know, I mean, it's unlikelythat both of them will lose over the
over the weekend. But you know, well, and I think we're it's
wonderful because we're straight ahead of wherewe thought we were going to be,
absolutely mate, Yeah, that's it, and that should take the pressure off
us. Really, you know,we're and just been that pains to play
down expectations, and I think,you know, we're seeing good football and

(52:44):
we're not really getting too carried away, although you know, some somehow we'll
come on to that to finish offwith. But yeah, I mean,
I think I think that that game, we would in previous seasons be expecting
a certain person metaphorical to turn upto that game, wouldn't we whose whose

(53:07):
first name is prefixed with the doctor? Yeah it's not me? Yeah,
yeah, yeah, But I don'tfeel that. I don't feel that naively,
I don't know how. I justdon't. I don't feel comfortable with
how I feel about the way we'replaying at the moment. Rich helped me.

(53:28):
I might need a doctor. It'srarefied air, isn't it. At
the minute. It's the difference we'renot used to. We're not used to
being to being you know this good. I said to you, my neighbor,
here is a Fulham phone and hesaid to me, you must have
a fucking nosebleed. Being up atthe top of the table. I said,
I said, well, we werefor a bit, you know,

(53:50):
previously. But yeah, I meanif we can, if we can pull
off a winner Friday on Friday night, and I think we should be winning
this one on Friday, all thingscan considered the bigger tests to come.
We know that, you know,Yeah, I mean this is it.
I mean I've seen a lot ofdiscourse about this. You know, Spurs
haven't played anybody of note yet.You know, Well, we've played Liverpool,
Arsenal and Man United. Yeah,and and those teams that we've played

(54:15):
also have done and will take pointsof other teams that you know, apart
from one or two of them,none of them are mugs, are they?
No? No? Absolutely, youknow I mean Willwich were with the
Champions elect last year until they shitthe bed. So I mean, I
think, you know, as faras tough tests go, if we can

(54:36):
go to the go to the swampand come away with a point, there's
no reason why we can't go toa car park in South London and come
back with all three. And youknow, I think we all know we
could have won that game at them Rus as well. But you know,
some some of those other games thatwe played, you know there were
tough games, you know, Brentfordand teams like that, and you know,
no easy teams to play away andI know we've got we've got the

(55:00):
point there, but other teams aregoing to go there and lose, bigger
teams, you know, big teamsanyway, just to finish off on there
seems to be this thing going aroundthat it started on one pod and seems
to have gone to lots and lotsof other pods. I thought we maybe
it'd be remiss if we didn't sayit, but could we of course we

(55:23):
could. Yeah, whether we willor not, I don't know whether it's
cringe or whether it's actually just asI said, just let them enjoy it.
Well, yeah, I mean Ijust as Andy said at the start
of the season, all we wantedwas to enjoy the football again, and

(55:45):
without being too puppy about it,I'm enjoying the football. So as far
as I'm in cern, we've alreadywon, you know, yeah, yeah,
yeah, and yeah. It'd belovely to think that if this winning
run continues, and if will itdrop a couple of points here and there,
and Man City've been stuttering, They'vealready lost twice a season, you

(56:07):
know. I if we can keepinjury free, we've actually got a big
advantage. The fact that we don'tplay midweek. Well, I mean,
you think about Conti's Chelsea team thatwon the league. They work in the
Champions League or that all the euroyou wave a cup that year. They
played thirty eight games in the leaguethat season and they won the league,
you know. I mean, granted, they cheated their way to it because

(56:30):
it was when they had cost Herupfront, who you only had to look
at him and he would fall overand get a penalty and you know,
but you know, the point stands. I think that that could be a
huge advantage. I think I expectus to make a couple of really clever
signings in January. I honestly expectus to do good business this January.
Yeah, and I think if we'restill in and amongst that top three or

(56:52):
four after at the end of thatwindow, then the pressure begins to build
on Arsenal, Manchester City and onLiverpool in the Champions League, you know,
in whatever competition they're in then,you know, I mean it'd be
great if if still you know,they dropped down into the way for a
couple or something and they have toplay fifteen hundred games in a month or

(57:14):
however it is to get to thefinal. Yeah, and they all have
to go off and play twice aweek and fly here, there and everywhere.
The pleasure pressure builds on them.Newcastle are in there, back in
Europe for the first time really inyears. That's you know, beginning,
that's going to By the way,Tali has been banned for ten months.
Yeah, yes, he's a keyplayer for them many Yeah. Yeah.

(57:38):
I mean, if there's any ifthere's any justice in the world this time
next year, already I will beteaching Pe in a secondary store because or
the England manager, which is worse, I don't know. Yeah, that
would be a good way getting ridof him, wouldn't it get in the
England job. Yeah, to behonest, England to watch if he managed

(57:59):
to maybe would yeah, yeah,yeah exactly. But it looks like that's
on the card, doesn't it.Anyway? So in terms of you know,
Southgate moving on, Yeah, well, at least we're not in a
position where he'll be touting for ourjob like he has been in the past.
Yeah. Thanks, fun But yeah, I mean, you know,
I don't know. I I thinkwe're more likely to lift an f A

(58:20):
Cup and win a league. Butand I'd love that. I think I
think we look in in good shapefor a top five finish. I'd be
happy with that in an FA Cupthat you know, that's uh, that'll
still be dreamland for me, doyou know? I think there's an and
And you know, I'm very dangerouslytowards doing the thing that I told you
are for on the WhatsApp group.But to me, you know, I

(58:45):
tend to you know, I'm aI'm write and I'm a storyteller, and
I write these things for academically andall that. So I have a mind
that looks at narratives. Yeah,and to my mind, there is an
inevitable narrative about Harry Kane leaving Spursand the season after us some of us
winning, some It just it's just, you know, it's Alanis Morrissett would
have written a song about it inthe early nineties, you know. It's

(59:07):
except for most of the things sheput in that song weren't actually ironic.
Yeah, isn't that the irony ofthe song? Though? I don't know,
is it or is that what she'sjust said afterwards just to kind of
uh face, Yeah, great,Yeah, but it's you know that with
an eye on that narrative, Ijust sort of think, fucking hell,

(59:30):
it's it's like it's like destiny init. Yeah. He plays all them
years, scores all them goals,you know, fails to show up in
any of the finals, leaves leavesempty handed the minute is back turns.
I mean, I'd fucking love it, don't get me wrong, you know,
love the guy, Tottenham legend andall that. But I just think
that would be just make it wouldjust make the perfect narrative arc. Yeah,

(59:52):
yeah, absolutely agree. Yeah,and I still think we should name
the rename that being one of herown snake oil instead of Anyway, on
that note, we'll bring it toan end. And thanks for joining us
again, Rich, been a pleasure. Yeah, looking forward to Friday,

(01:00:15):
right, yeah, Friday night.Then I'm going to nip out and see
whether or not the police are stillshot the tow path, whether they found
any more bodies or found any evidencetrailing back to your boat. Anyway,
I shouldn't joke about it. Well, I don't know what's happened or not

(01:00:35):
somebody, whether it's been in anaccident or lost their life anyway. Yeah,
anyway, thoughts are with them,and yeah, let's let's it's to
is to you not tempting fake toomuch and to us going five points cleer,
Yeah, come on, you Spurs. You know there's no place on

(01:01:01):
earth I would I wouldn't want tobe right here, you know, in
this minute of trying to bring successto one of the biggest football clubs in
the world. The basic underlet lineprinciples that yell on my team to play
football that scares the life out ofevery opposition. Like that's that's kind of

(01:01:22):
the end game. Yeah,