BBQ Beef - FRI 8.1

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Barbecue feud in central Texas. It ain't good, y'all know
where Lockhart is.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
You think it's just the barbecue capital of the state,
that's all.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
A barbecue dynasty's feud is rocking a Texas town. It's
the Black brothers of the famed Blacks Barbecue and Lockhart yep,
and they're feuding with Terry Black's Barbecue, the original Blacks Barbecue,
and Terry blackspat.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
These people do not get along with each other.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Well, it was a big split years ago at Crisis,
and it calls the ripples are still being filled to
this day. Critis was the thing, and then you know,
you know how families are. Sometimes they don't get along.
I've heard tell of other restaurant families of some you know,

(00:45):
pretty big names, but where things just didn't go well,
so they split up and then they compete against each other.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
It's in the Wall Street Journal. They say this feud
is even worse than the Hatfields and McCoy's.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Really, yeah, I wouldn't say that. No, not that bad,
not that bad. There wants a brisk at war bill. Yeah,
I get it, I get it. Alo Crisis was specially
known for their sausage some really good sausage.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
But see, some guys got the building and not the recipes,
and then some guys got the recipes but had to
go to a new building. What was more important? And
you know the recipes. But that's the tricky thing. You
need both. It's like nitro and glycer and neither one
of them is that, you know, big of a problem

(01:30):
by themselves. Put them together, though, who you got something?

Speaker 3 (01:34):
So wow, that's amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
So this has been going on for decades. Why has
it suddenly reached the height of national news?

Speaker 1 (01:44):
If I had to assume, I think it's probably because
it takes a while for information to get from Lockhart
to Wall Street.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Think it does because they're from Lockhart just to you know,
like new bondfuls.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
That's a good point. It's not that far. It's in
the It's in the Wall Street Journal. That's why I said,
it's an unusual Texas story to hear the Wall Street
Journal report on. And yet at the same time, everybody
I know has had an opinion about this for years.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Right, They're like, Oh, no, Terry, Terry Black's is the
way to go. Oh, Terry Black sucks, Black Brothers. That's
what you want.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, but then there's there's Smith's critches, there's all these
other ones, you know, So I mean it ain't like
the one and only. That's why Lockhart's known as barbecue
capital of Texas. You know, there's lots of good stuff.
Then you just go right down the road to Looling,
although you can stay in Houston and get looling because
it's right down the road from here too.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Bill. Yeah, this takes us back to a topic you
and I have probably spent hours discussing over the years
at bars and stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yeah. I could never be a food critic. I couldn't.
You know, you like too many things.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Do you think I would dislike any of those barbecue restaurants?

Speaker 2 (02:44):
No, you would just like, No, that's good. No, that's
good too. It's all good. Everything's good, even on their
worst day.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Even at the end of the day, there's nothing left
over but dry stuff and the you know, eh, still
better than what I got in Houston.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
And there you go.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Uh, although Houston's got a pretty good barbecue too, like
that looling. I just told you about you.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Because when I go to Memphis, my Memphis friends are like, oh,
this isn't like Texas, our barbecue is good, and I'm like, yeah,
I will see, And then an hour later, my gut
is sticking out here, and I'm like, no, no, you're right.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
And we go to.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Kansas City and they're like, this isn't like Memphis. Our
barbecue's gut. I'm like, we'll see. And then an hour
later you have to roll me out the door.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Huge again.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Charleston, South Carolina. Our barbecue is yellow, yellow barbecue. You're crazy.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
And then look at how cy big Kinney is.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
One hour later, I'm mailing jars of mustard back to Texas.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
And get the meat swips. It's a good thing, ain't it.
You know in Alabama they do white sauce on their barbecue.
Oh lord, I know it's good. It's not like white gravy.
That's different. It's different. You white gravy barbecue.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
That's fine. Keep something shipper, all right? If I shut
up with white gravy and barbecue. You're telling me you're
not gonna dip your brisket in the white gravy.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
I'm probably not. No, it's sitting right there.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
If your brisket sucks and it needs dipping, then I
don't want to eat but that's the thing, Dolly good brisket.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
How about that.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
It doesn't chocolate doesn't need peanut butter. It's just better
with it so better?

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Or is it just different? I love chocolate and peanut butter.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
In the meantime, other weird stuff's happened in places besides Texas.
We'll try to take the spotlight off of Lockhart for
a minute. I don't know if you've ever been to
the Ozarks area of Mossura many times who apparently it
gets a little rough over there.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
I know it. Well.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
You remember that Ozark show with Ruth and her family.
They were kind of rough. Yeah, absolutely, Well, maybe they're
related to these people. A man in the Ozarks area
of Missouri has been arrested now in charge with first
degree murder because he killed a woman with a gardening tool.
They don't go into the details, but that's what he
used to kill her.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
What kind of woman was she? Oh? That was his mom? Oh? No,
oh lord? What kind of gardening tool?

Speaker 2 (04:52):
If they don't go into detail, they said a thirty
nine year old dude name of Derek is facing all
these charges now. The immediately were a little suspicious of
Derek when they arrived at the home of his mom,
who was sixty five, and mom was getting a welfare check.
They check on old people or people that are in

(05:13):
a situation where it looks like they might be in danger.
Deputies from the sheriff's officer. They came to the scene
about nine thirty one night after they got a call
from the husband, which is Derek's stepdad, not his real dad,
got it and he was concerned about his wife because
she wasn't answering the phone and she was over at
her at her son's house, I guess there. And so

(05:35):
they arrived and found Derek and they started asking him
a few questions. It don't take long for the police
because they got that nose for trouble, that sixth sense
about when people are you know, he just ain't right.
This guy's right. I just got a gut feeling and
this guy's wrong. You talked to dozens of people all
the time when one of them's lyned it.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
They asked some questions about his mom, and he said
his mom was in the guest house on the property there,
and they asked about her condition, is mama, is she
still you know, alive?

Speaker 3 (06:09):
And he said, I don't think so. Oh gross.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
So you know, of course they detained him while they
looked around, and they did in fact find mama in
the guest house where she had been brutally beaten to
death with a gardening.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Tool like that. That's not sound good.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah, Apparently Derek's problem was he was a little anxious
for his inheritance.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Oh lord, what could have inheritance have been? Yeah? How
much money can it?

Speaker 2 (06:40):
It was murdering a much, but it was like, Mama's
lived long enough, and you know, we got a stepdad
over there who don't count for nothing. He didn't care
for him at all. Uh So, yeah, mama, if you
just go ahead and let me kill you, I can
have your inheritance. Now the police are saying, maybe he's
not going to get that after all. Turns out his
own more complicated. I guess you can't just kill a

(07:02):
person and take their money, No, especially not if they
catch you at it.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
No.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
No, I guess the as horrible as that story is,
I guess we got justice looks that way eventually. Eventually, Well,
he's been arrested and certainly does what you say. It
looks like he's guilty. It doesn't look good. Hey, congratulations
to Cracker Barrel. On a lighter note, Cracker Barrel has
dumped the consulting firm Profit that was Smart after major
rebrand backlash from customers. Profit pr pH gt not pr

(07:31):
OT not like money, but yeah, you get it anyway.
They were the ones that recommended you should rebrand. How
should we do it?

Speaker 2 (07:38):
You should make it sterile, change everything about what made
you successful.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
That's what they were told. Did you know that name?
That the guy on the logo, the old man that
they removed? Did you know he had a name? I
did not? Uncle Herschel? Is that right? Yeah? Herschel?

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Huh?

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Does he look like a Herschel to you? Mister? Oh?
What do you think about that?

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Well?

Speaker 2 (07:56):
No, I've known Severalhearshals, and I still know some Hershels.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
One. I just I just called him harsh, you know,
because we tye him a patna.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
But herschel Walker, you know a lot of herdel and
what in herschel Walker? What's he famous for?

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Oh? Being black? Huh? Not? Can't think of one other thing? Well,
not not being that Herschel. I guess that's what you know.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
The Cracker Barrel man, he's not the Cracker Barrel man.
Sure absolutely, you think goncle Herschel is good at football?

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Oh yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
And by the way, Cracker Barrel is not sponsoring the
sports I was just looking at him for the last
month they've been they've been sluffering for the last two
and a half three months they've been sluffering, and announcing
that they're.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Going back to the old waves didn't actually help him much,
did it? Like I though it did not yet anyway.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
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over now because the Yankees beat the Red Sox and
gain three. Yankees move on and Boston season is over.
And for a certain group of people, especially in the Northeast,
that was all they were interested in. Also moving on
now the Cubs they won, Detroit they won, and La

(09:47):
was already moving on from the wild card brackets.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
So that's the four to move on from that.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
I know you don't want to be a Cubs fan,
but would you agree that you like the Cubs more
than you like these other teams?

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Yeah? I could agree to that, or at least that
you hate them less.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
That seems fair, because yesterday we were having a taco
party here at the radio station for a lunch.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
A taco party, you say, and everybody agreed.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
You know, if you really love baseball and you just
want to have a team in the playoffs, the Cubs seems.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
Like a good way to go. They're lovable, losers.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
They've always been underdogs, and for a long time WGN
was able to reach places in the country where people
didn't have a baseball team. That's right, like sen Law
for example, sim Law. Now that's what we call Alexandria
in Pineville. Mister local, Yeah, those are my peeps. Anyway,
go Cubs, go, Hey, Chicago, what do you say.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
How they do it? The Cubs are going to win today.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
I know college football coming up tomorrow, a lot of
good games, but I'm gonna tell you right now, I'm
looking forward with old myths and the Texas agis. That's
that's gonna tear it up about six thirty tomorrow night. Now,
we got to look at Texas, Florida. Oklahoma got kill
all right, so they got a week off until Texas
next weekend.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
So that's gonna be fun.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
A lot of LSU or a lot of SEC teams
like LSU got a bye week Arkansas gotta buy unless
you uh no, Old Miss ain't. Oh wait agis Mississippi State?
I see, I thought they was playing Old miss Oh. Okay,
well that's different because Old miss uh you know, uh,
they ranked like fourth in the nation. I said, that's

(11:17):
gonna be a fight. Aggie's was six, but Mississippi State
they ain't rank well stell something old miss out stuph Football,
and Tennessee they got a bye week also, so oh,
I'm also making my prediction for the Saints game. I
predict the Saints Mike could possibly maybe.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Get a win this weekend. Uh.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
If they don't this weekend, I'm not sure it's ever
gonna happen because they got the Giants. They they ripe
for the picking ize as far as I'm concerned. And
the Texans going to Baltimore, now that would normally scare
some people, but a we don't know if Lamar is
gonna play or out. He ain't practiced all week. It'd
be Baltimore's got the same record as the Texas.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
They suck too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yeah, A lot of ourn listeners said it was a
bad idea for us to do a comedy show on
a Sunday, But considering how much the Saints of the
text had sucked this year.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
Good idea. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
University of Colorado, you're familiar with the University of Colorado.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Coach Prime home, Coach Prime all his people up there. Yeah,
they was fine last week.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Fifty thousand dollars racism inappropriate chance during the game against
Brigham Young, so the fans caused the team to get
the fans in the crowd. Was a chant and they
said it wasn't like so much racist as it was religious.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
Oh they didn't like Mormons. Oh that's not right.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Was this about soaking? Remember that time I told you
guys about soaking. They won't even tell you what the
chant was unless you was in the stands. You don't
know what they were chanting. But it was fifty thousand
dollars worth of mean is what it was. Wow, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
It's a lot of meanings.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
It is a lot of meanness. Soaking is so weird,
isn't it? Basically like your buddy jumps on the bed
and then you and this girl.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
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Speaker 1 (13:05):
During commercial break, we were just opining over how bizarre
it is that even with five and a half hours
of original content today, four and a half hours in
the morning, one in the afternoon, there are still hot
button national news stories.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
We have a lot of opinions about that. We just
never have time to discuss.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
There's so much happening, so much of it is just
so awful it's hard to get to all the awfulness.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
I don't think we ever talked about the illegal immigrant
superintendent from Des Moines, Iowa.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
Did we? I don't think we did. The guy is
an illegal immigrant.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
There's a two hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year
salary they gave to an illegal immigrant. And by the way,
not just an illegal immigrant, a gun wielding guy running
around the state criminal record. I and Andre Roberts resigned
a superintendent after ICE arrested him September twenty second on
accusations he was living in the US illegally and had
a prior weapons offense. Turns out he was registered to

(13:56):
vote in another state, Maryland, I think. And they catch
him running around. They found him with a gun, a
hunting knife, three thousand dollars in cash. He has been
in the country illegally from Guyana since nineteen ninety nine.
And here's how bad journalism is. I just read a
story where theyre like he's from Africa. No, Guyana is

(14:18):
in South America. I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
All you had to do is yes, are you sure?
I'm positive it's in South America? Did you look at it?
I'm looking at it right now. On my screen. It
is the capital not Africa.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Georgetown, Guyana is the largest city in goy That's where
he's shroud and he's from South America.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
And anyway, the point is how far south you know
in South America? Right at the very top the main
northern edge of South America near it.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
It's not Aruba. It's a little south of that's southeast
of there.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
How do we know it's not Central America? Just sat
far far far south central America instead of far north
South America.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
See, it's a gray area of what you would qualify
as because it's north of the equator.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
We're just confusing people. Now do you every think it's.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
Weird how Ecuador kind of looks like the word equator
and it's on the equator.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
Isn't that a coincidence?

Speaker 1 (15:03):
That weird?

Speaker 3 (15:04):
Wow? Yeah, no reason to know why that happened. There's
no way to know.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Nobody knows what they in Africa, and that's what we
know full of fact. Yeah, no, he's right, it's not
in Africa. If you say so, yeah, Hey, a black
man just said it, leave it alone, and the map
also says it.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
So there's that.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
And then way north of there is this place called Bermuda.
And by the way, Cocomon not a real place.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
I don't know. I've really I've tried many times to
buy tickets, so I know.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
And Bermuda, if I'm not mistaken, aren't they getting a
hurricane or some similar type action going on?

Speaker 1 (15:36):
They're getting some inclement weather right oh in Clemate Okay? Yeah, yeah,
it is a British island territory in the North Atlantic
where right now there is a little wind.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
It's a little gusty there, but they're fine. They've been
hitting with a.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
One hundred mile per hour wind and don't worry about
them though. And Melda is the name of the hurricane.
We only got to eye this year. What happened all
the climate change? What happened all that blessing and ice
rock yesterday?

Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (16:01):
And not one storm a hurricane has had the nerve
to set foot in the Gulf of America.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
It's never happened. Golf America has never had a hurricane,
not around here. A Norwegian cruise headed to Bermuda instead
has had to dock in Boston. Boy, that's disappointing America.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Because she's currently blowing at about like seventy five mile
hour just barely a hurricane. I mean, gusting up to
around ninety but still barely sustained enough winds to be
called a hurricane. And Amilda is moving rather swiftly off
to the northeast. And the other day you were talking
about the fact that, you know, Ireland never seems to
get hurricanes. It won't be a hurricane by the time

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it gets there, but the track sends it straight towards Ireland.
Right now, in about three more days, the winds are
going to be down. These experts, they know these things,
down to around fifty to fifty five miles an hour.
It won't be a hurricane anymore, but a tropical storm
as it approaches the coast of huland LODs and losses.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
And then there's the hurricane that just d Kentucky. Huh
what what was that?

Speaker 2 (17:10):
I don't see nothing on the radar.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
She wanted her sauce, and she wanted it free, Billy
ed huh oh. A big girl went into a little
Caesar's pizza.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
Oh boy, and I bet she tore it up like
a bull in a china cabinet. She was charged one
dollar for extra sauce, but she was given no sauce.
I'll tell you what it's the tale is oldest time.
This girl.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
She a big, old girl too. I'm wondering what made
her mad? You ain't mad or didn't get the sauce
at all? What effect that they was gonna charge you
a dollar for it in the first place.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Shaniqua Haynes asked for extra sauce with her order and
employee said it would cost one dollar.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Now, looking at Shanika, just a picture of her, I'm thinking,
shouldn't the employee working there have realized she was gonna
need extra sauce. I mean, just looking at it, I
mean she's extracise sister sauce seems appropriate.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Police said that Haines created a disturbance in the store
and again knocking things off the counter.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
I guess Haines wanted to have it her way. I
bet so.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
There was a custom, custom made computer, and they added
it was like one of those things where you order
your own pizza with a touchscreen. I always feel weird
about touching those because it's covered in germs. Should be anyway.
They say she did over one thousand dollars in damage
because she didn't get one dollar worth of saying she
left the store, but employees were able to provide the
Louisville Police with their name after comparing video surveillance with

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a known picture.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
Get this. The incident happened back in January, but Haines
was allowed to remain free, even with a charge of
criminal mischief hanging overhead, until she was arrested for a
separate incident about a week ago.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
So I was gonna say, by remaining allowing her to
remain free, then they put everybody else working in any
fast food restaurants especially at risk.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
You mean, a person that did thousands of dollars worth
of damage for one dollar worth of Marin aerosauce has
created problems elsewhere.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
I am a guest. It is surprising. I am shocked
at this news by this story has everything.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Guy's rampaging, black lady, fast food, a single mom, a
black dad fleeing town.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
Don't forget a racist white dude. They said, this black woman,
don't get no sauce. I'll just take her dollar. And
you know, it was a dude. It could have been
a racist white girl. It kind of a hispanic they
them for all, you know, but it was definitely a
white person. Let's go with non black. I know a
lot of people are just liking to use the non
black thing.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
Now.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
Haines got arrested for throwing a brick at the father
of her child's car because he wanted to move back
to Since.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Okay, did that stop him from wanting to move?

Speaker 3 (19:37):
I mean if someone was throwing bricks at me while
I was considering moving, I think I would. I'm thinking
it would have just the opposite, opposite effect. Yeah, would
probably move even faster.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
Do you think we're all gonna jump out of bed
in the morning and have a big, hot steaming cup.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
Walking in Johnson