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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, if you enjoy the Walton Johnson Show like we do,
then you might also enjoy the Pursuit of Happiness show
in the afternoon with oh Kinney Webster there.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
And as a matter of fact, I think, do we
have a clip? Can we play a clip? Yeah, we're back.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
You got to admit whether or not you show you
whether or not you agree with Donald Trump's plan to
send the National Guard into Chicago or Illinois. It's indisputably
true that Chicago has a crime problem. I mean, that's
just absolutely true. Years ago, I moved from Chicago to Houston.
I lived most of my twenties in the Windy City,
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and I've spent most of my adult life outs after
that in Houston, right, pretty much all of it. And
I could tell you with great certainty that although the
two cities are very similar in terms of socioeconomic status,
working class, blue collar industry city surrounding a white collar metropolis,
the downtown area and international cities. No doubt, Chicago has
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a stock exchange. Houston is the energy capital of the world,
they claim. But that's kind of where the similarities end,
isn't it. Because Houston's very spread out, it's very warm, Chicago.
Everyone's kind of on top of each other. It's cold,
and for some reason that is what's caused the murder
rate to spike in Chicago. Okay, that's probably not true. Actually,
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it's probably this. If you live in the Windy City
and you throw a rock in any direction, what do
you usually hit?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
A homeless person?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
If you live in Houston and you throw a rock
in any direction, you hit a gun range, you hit
a gun store. In terms of crime, Chicago and Houston
are real similar, with one exception, right when it comes
to theft vandalism, you know, catalytic converter resale, that sort
of thing.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Neck and neck.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Very similar statistics when it comes to violent crime, turns out,
in a city where there's a lot of armed, law
abiding citizens around, people are a little more careful. When
you know your neighbor be packing some heat, you're a
little less likely to commit a violent crime. That's just
my opinion. That's something I've noticed. I've actually seen people
in Chicago get shot. I've never seen that in Houston.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Before.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I saw somebody in Chicago get stabbed once. I've never
witnessed anything like that in Houston. Mind you, Houston has
plenty of crime. When I first moved here, somebody broke
into my car first month I lived in this city.
Not exactly a crime free town by any means, but
certainly not the amount of rape, murder, kidnappings. That stuff
just doesn't happen in Houston at the rate that it
happens in a city like Chicago.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
So maybe there's something to be said about this.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I have a friend he's a little more libertarian than me,
although he's certainly a very similar libertarian nationalist belief. You've
probably read some of his articles or some of his
tweets online. He even runs the Walton and Johnson online story.
His name is Austin Peterson. Austin doesn't live in Chicago
or in Houston. He lives in Missouri. Austin, I would
assume you probably don't see this exactly how I see it.
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But what do you think about that theory?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Well, first of all, if the FEDS want to stop
shooting in this country, the first thing that they need
to do, Kenny, is they've got to shut down the
Helen Keller Memorial gun range because people are getting blasted
at that range. And you know, I don't know why
for you it's so popular because everybody who's been buying
the Helen Keller memorial gun shirts over at I love
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WJ dot com so but so apparently it's become a
freak thing. So if Trump could shut that down first,
that would reduce the number of shootings. But on a
more serious note, it's you know, I'm a libertarian. I
don't like the idea of sending the FEDS into our
cities or our states. But for Trump, you have to
look at the politics of this. For Trump, it's kind
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of a win win. If if he succeeds and things improve,
then he gets huge credit and people are going to realize,
you know, how terrible the things are managed. But if
he doesn't manage to even eke out, you know, a
big victory, then he gets to blame it on the
Democrats and say, well, your your cities are completely unmangeal.
You've completely destroyed that. So there's the politics of this.
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There's the law. And DC is not Chicago, and DC
is not it's not Baltimore. But I don't know if
you have ever ridden the train between say New York
and DC. I have. I used to live there, and
when I would go back and forth. You see Baltimore
passing by, it looks like be Root, it looks like
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Gaza after the IDF has had a go at it.
It just it looks to me like a third world nation,
and the crime rights crime rates reflect that. So it's like,
if you've lived there, you're not going to care if
the police officer that saves you or that you know,
the person who saves you from getting stabbed at the
local police officer or federal troop. All you want is
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to stop the crime in your neighborhoods. So it's an
experiment and we're going to see if it succeeds or not.
And at the end of the day, if more people's
lives are saved, it's probably a good thing. But I
do fear the precedent because we all know what we
do now that what the Republicans do now, the Democrats
are going to take later and they're going to point
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and say, well, here's where we got this, this authority,
You've got it from the previous administration, and any double
will quadruple down and make it worse. Which is I
to say we shouldn't do something, Kenny. I think a
lot of people, they look at people like ourselves, and
they think, well, you guys just say don't do anything. Well,
that's not true, because one of the biggest things that
we could do is enforce property rights. You have to know, Kenny,
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that like it's not legal to gentrify parts of Baltimore.
They you know why, because the Democrats have spawned this
narrative that these evil rich billionaires or white people moving
into our neighborhoods and purchasing properties and being able to
defend them appropriately with guns, you know, improve the neighborhoods,
but that we've been brainwashed against it. We've been brainwashed
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to believe that, you know, white people moving into a
neighborhood and making it and improving it is gentrification and
that that's a bad thing. We shouldn't do it. The
zoning laws, regulations, red tape, we could do a lot, Kenny,
who people who point fingers at people like us and say, well,
you guys are just saying don't do anything. The libertarian replus,
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don't intervene. Government doesn't do anything. No government can do
a lot right now to get out of the way
of letting people purchase property property at fair market values
and then defend that property with guns if need be,
but they can't. So these they we continue to see
our inner cities hollowed out because we don't respect property rights. Kenny.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Okay, So let's say hypothetically sends the National Guard in
and all they do is protect the streets while the
actual Chicago Police Department goes out and investigates the real crime.
We have the National Guard on the street to detur
run of the mill, vandalism, street thug stuff like that,
but they don't actually go out and do traditional police
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work like detective work and investigations.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
As a libertarian, does that bother you?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Yeah? It does. But again, at the end of the day,
what people are are going to see, if they're going
to see that when they're their ride home on the train,
that there's somebody there with the gun that's protecting them,
they're going to see, you know, they're going to see
those results. They're not going to see. You know, we
we sort of live in an ivory tower. You know,
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people who I'll even extend this, you know to the audience.
You know, some of the ten percenters who listen to
this show, right they know the theories, They've read the books,
they're with it. You know, they know exactly what we're
what we're saying. But they also they don't live in Chicago,
they don't live in Baltimore. They don't know what it's
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like to live in some of the areas that do
you see that I've seen, and I'll tell you the
people who are in those neighborhoods, they just they don't
care about our theories and our ivy league. And you
know how we feel about things or what the Constitution
says about that, whether we like it or not. Kimming,
to some extent, we are at a post constitutional society.
I I don't like it. I don't agree with it.
We need to get back to what the founding documents
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have said. But to some extent there is. It's what
people like Michael Malice would call an anarcho tyranny, where
if you are friends with the government, you will get protected,
you will be able to do as you please. But
if you're not friends with the government, if you don't,
if you can't afford to get on the list of
tariff exemptions for this administration, then you're screwed for the
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next few years until the Democrats take over, and then
you know, Mark Zuckerberg has to go play national the
Democrats and pay for their inauguration. And so it's it's
that the rich people the rich can protect themselves. They
can always be friends with the people in power. The
people who are poor, people who are middle class. You know,
we don't have access to that level of power, so
we don't we don't normally make the friends list. Uh.
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And it doesn't even necessarily help it when you have
your own party in power, because they're sure, they're sure
not helping the majority of people. They're helping their buddies,
they're helping their cronies, they're setting themselves up and enriching themselves.
Because we live under an anarchist tyrannical situation, the laws
apply only to the people who are the enemies of
the state, and for the friends of the state, the
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laws don't apply. You do as you please. You know.
That's why people who are in Silicon Valley can get
away with things, Kenny. They can move fast, and they
can break things because one they can afford to pay
for it fix something. If they broke it. Think someone
like you know, committing suicide for using AI. Okay, well
they'll just pay off the person. Right, they can afford
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to do that and take those risks. But for the
rest of us, we have to ask permission. We have
to ask are we allowed to do something right? And
you know, only the greatest you know understand that the
rules and laws are really only meant for the middle
and lower classes. That's the truth. It's sad truth, but
that's the reality.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
We live in.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
The Wall Street Journal just ran a pole and what
they found is that a majority of Americans have lost
faith in the American Dream. I feel like and I
feel like that I've seen this poll before, Like we
see this every few years. It's just a different news
outlet running the news story. I think what differs to
me about this. Usually it's a liberal outlet during a
Republican regime telling you during a Republican administration that people
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lost faith in the American dream. And then when there's
a Democrat in power, you know, a right wing news
outlet Fox News for example, will run a similar poll
get similar results. What's different here is Wall Street Journal
is considered to be a you know, It's news corps
right Rupert Murdoch. It's considered to be a conservative news outlet,
and they're running the poll while Trump is in charge.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
What's your take on this.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I'm going to get conspiratorial. If you ever heard the term
doom scrolling. Maybe some people who are out there again,
the ten percenters, they're all over it. But you know,
this is what people. What do people do? Boredom doesn't
even exist anymore. When was the last time that you
were bored? And what are we doing when we're not
bored when we otherwise would have been bored, We're scrolling
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on our phones. And I absolutely believe that these social
media institutions like TikTok and others have got foreign operations
that we call them psyops in Russia, their intelligence agencies
they call them active measures. This kind of stuff has
been going on for years, but ever since it's been
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a lot more difficult to spread the well, I guess
the disenfranchisement amongst the American people with their institutions and
with their futures, disenfranchising people from believing that the future
in the United States is something look forward to. We
see this widespread on social media. We'd see it in
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the legacy media where I saw a CEO was talking
about Generation Z and how these zoomers they they don't
believe that they have a future. They're not really working
that hard, and they're not trying, and they're quiet quitting
and they're you know, the their school and TikTok's there,
and what are they saying on TikTok? They're saying some
They'll have a video juxtaposed of how Baltimore is a
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is full of you know, crack. They'll show people in
the United States where a police shooting a black woman
running at them with a knife. And then the next
video is a young Chinese girl sitting at the piano
playing a masterful you know piece that she wrote herself
at just seven years old. And that's a syop, right,
It's to show you how terrible things are in the
United States and it and to show you how great
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things are overseas. And you know what, people, I think
people are buying it. I think people are doom scrolling
on their phones. I think they're I think they're I
think that the psychological warfare that's going that's being conducted,
you know, both domestically by the democratic institutions, the George
Soros institutions, but also foreign ssyops are are being propagated.
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There's a reason why TikTok was voted by the Congress
overwhelmingly to be banned. You know, whether you like, you know,
agree with the ban or not doesn't change the fact that,
you know, maybe you believe that Chinese propaganda is free
speech and should be allowed here in the United States.
The Congress didn't believe that. And you know a lot
of conservatives think that they should ban TikTok. You know,
we could debate that later, but the point is that
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it is a psyop. It is there are psychological manipulative
manipulation campaigns that are being engaged. It's en mass. Ask
yourself this, Kenny, this is really sad. And this is
non attack on anybody who's listening from this generation. But
if you were to kind of if you were to
take the average AI video that's that looks really good
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and show it to a boomer, what do you think
the percentage rate of them believing that it's real would be.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Shocked shockingly high. Austin, I've I've done this experiment before.
My mom and her friends. They do not know the
difference between AI and real content. It's terrifying, it is.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
And and they they they create whole fake news reports,
They create all these institute and then a video that
backs up the statement of the fake a fake video
from a fake person that backs up the statement. And
it even is you know, sometimes will fool me. I'll
have to look twice and be like, wait a minute,
was that was that? Really? Was that a ch If
it seems too good to be real, you know it
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probably is is not real. The problem is that there's
no way to separate the American people from their devices.
We whether we like it or not, the most addictive,
the most addictive thing in the United States, it's not
crack cocaine, it's not fentanyl. It's not sugar, it's not
it's not food. The number one most addictive thing is
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that device in our pockets, which lies to us every day,
all day. Kenny, it is full of lies. You're gonna
you have to search to get the truth. But everything
that's in your feed is a lie. Uh And and
if if you're not being manipulated by the by foreign governments,
you're being manipulated by our own government or the Democratic
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Party or the Republican Party. You know, the these influencer
campaigns that Russia did with the you know, American conservatives,
I'm sure pale in comparison to the amount of money
and time and energy that China is spending, you know,
trying to get their words in the mouths of American influencers,
and it's a siop. So I think a lot of
this disconnect with our future, the disenfranchisement that people feel
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that they don't feel like they have a future, I
think a lot of a lot of it is a siop.
Because I'll tell you what, Kenny, there are people making
the American dream happen. There are people in the United States,
and they tend to be the people who don't use
phones as much or who are really good at blocking
it out or being able to separate fact from fiction.
Maybe if we have to have public education, you know,
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maybe a media literacy course, or you're being able to
tell fact from fiction in you know, AI and things
like that, maybe that needs to be a part of
the core curriculum going forward. Because I'll tell you what,
right now, I think a lot of people are being
led like off a cliff because they're not able to
tell fact from fiction, and that there's a lot of
George Orwell going on right now, a lot of nineteen
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eighty four happening as we speak.
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