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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Like the phillips a, sir to you and all of
the Catholics listening at the moment, if.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
You're just waking up.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Holy Week Lent are over, and Pope Francis, the first
Latin American pontiff, the first pope to ever be named
after Saint Francis of CC, has passed away.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
He is no longer alive.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
His condition remains unchanged for the last several hours room temperature.
They say, yeah, yeah, and you know this is for
Christians and Catholics. This is yes, of course they're different.
I know it's a touchy subject. But for the people
are already writing angry emails.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
One is another, one's the other, but the other's not the.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
One one's correct. The other is just like the light
version of the first. Anyway, I can't. Of course, it's
always bittersweet when someone dies, especially as religious leader, because
the whole point of our philosophy, of our religion is
that now he's with God, now he's with the other popes.
We went from one of the most conservative pope in
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modern history to one of the most progressive popes. And obviously,
let's say okay in terms like conservative and progressive and
the religious sense aren't quite what they mean in the
same framework as American politics. But as far as a
Catholic leader goes, he was pretty controversial. In fact, he
once criticized conservative saying that they're stuck in the old
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ways and that the world has to change. He was
pro gay, not pro gay marriage. He didn't think that
like he wasn't pro gay. He just didn't think homosexuality
should be criminalized. He thought we should have conversations about
women becoming priests. He didn't really change any policies. The
reason he was controversial is he wanted to talk about
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this stuff and very controversial of the Trump administration, which
is fascinating because, as Steve pointed out in the video,
we just posted on social media, the last person, the
last world leader that he met.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
With yesterday, jd Vance, a guy from a while. I Oh,
and it's odd because.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I'm not the only one that immediately thought that I
heard Pope died on the way into work earlier this morning,
and it's like jd Vance was just there.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Oh my god, I mean, that's just too obvious.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
And then I get to emails have already poured in,
uh litha.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Jd Vance killed the Pope.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Steve. Steve made this point when we were just unlocking
the door to come into the studio.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
He's like, did JD Vance kill the Pope?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
We look at the email, everybody thinks, so, well, then
it's obvious he did. Yeah, Patrick wrote in I'm glad
j D was able to make it look like natural causes.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Okay, obviously he was very sick. He was known as
Pope of the slums. All popes are basically popes of
the poor, but he was really a pope of the poor.
And one of the reasons they gave when people would
write these pre written biographies about him. You know, people
expected him to die. So you see all these articles
get published this morning.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Well, he was in the hospital for weeks, just a
little over a week ago, right, They thought he was
about to kick then, and then I think, you know,
your your mind has a power over death up to
a point if you're living for something, if there's something
really important in the near future. I think he wanted
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to be there for Easter. Yeah, he gave his big
Easter you know message to the folks. Did he drive
around the popemobile just yesterday?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
He did?
Speaker 1 (03:27):
I mean, he didn't drive it but obviously, yeah, he
was in it and people were looking at him. But
he's like, oh, he really recovered nicely. But I think
it's just that that power of positive I want to
live to this point he did.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
It's kind of like when you see these news stories
about married couples who were they were married for eighty
years and then they died an hour apart, Like, how
did that happen? Maybe very maybe there was something to it.
I don't know, but anyway, so he's passed on. He
was known as the Pope of the of the slums,
that's what they called him. And if you one of
the reasons why is because he rode public transit. He
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wouldn't drive around when he was a cardinal. He wouldn't
ride around in a private car. You'd see him on
the buses down in Argentina. Obviously he was into reform.
There was a lot of resistance to him, controversy among
conservatives for challenging capitalist systems, supporting climate action, loosening doctrinal rigidy,
on issues like divorce and same sex blessings.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
He thought that people.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
That got divorced should still be allowed to have their
second marriage in the church or I guess it's more
complicated than that.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
He thought we should talk about it.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
You know, we should talk about a lot of things, right, Yeah,
we should talk about Sure, let's have a conversation about
how you shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Do I kid, of course. Anyway, fascinating life.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
One of the first popes, the first pope to ever
go to Iraq, I think, born in Buenos Aires, Argentina
to Italian immigrants. So they say he was the first
Latin American pope, but he was still Italian. Well yeah, sure, yeah,
I guess we've had Polish popes too. You could be
Polish or you could be Italian. So now there's a
lot of people on cable news this morning asking will
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we finally get an African pope? And no one knows
who the next pope's gonna be, but probably won't.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Be a black guy, would be my guess. But it
has to be Monday morning. I feel pretty rough on
a Monday, You feel me. I feel It's great, not great?
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Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah, the latest from the Metroplex DFW over the weekend,
the Protect the Whites rally. A bunch of people that
are angry about Austin Metcalf getting murdered, and a bunch
of Antifa extremists got together in a parking lot somewhere
and they spent the afternoon macing each other.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Have you eased?
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Not really the best representation for I think what they
wanted to, what the message was that they wanted to
get across. It's usually the extremes on both sides that
show up and kind of embarrassed mainstream.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
It was Holy weekend, right, so.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Probably the kind of person that's going to make themselves
available for this from either side is not generally someone
that you'd want in front of a TV camera.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
You didn't see him in church yesterday. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
I wasn't there, but what I saw on the clips,
I mean I wasn't at the rally, Bobbies, but from
what I could see from the clips online, the people
at the protest in DFW were very colorful and interesting people.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
We'll leave it at that. Sound Mike's coming up in
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Also, besides the Pope having just passed, you have to wonder,
after yesterday's photo, how long before we have that breaking
news that maybe Joe Biden has left this mortal coil.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I don't know. I mean, he could still go on
for a while. But they photo shopped.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Him into the family Easter picture on the stairs of
their you know, beach home.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I guess it's not the first time we've seen this recently.
Does everybody remember I think it was a year ago
Kate Middleton's Easter family photo. I think it was or
Mother's Day photo, the Princess Kate or Duchess Kate or whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I don't know, I don't care about. And she was
fighting cancer.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Right before we found out she had cancer, they did
an AI generated photo of her with the children, and
if you didn't really know what AI was supposed to
look like, you would have thought that was just a
normal photo. The difference between that and this is night
and day. Yeah, this doesn't look real at it. It looks
so they didn't even really make an effort. It's him standing,
it's him wearing a suit. No one else is dressed
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like that. And then the way they edited it, it
almost looks like he's inside the porch, his legs would
be underground. It's very bizarre looking. It doesn't look real
at all. Who would look at that fuight? And then
like the pixelation. The resolution of him is so different
from the rest of the photo.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
It just didn't match up at all.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
It looks like they tried to make it funny. So
did he Did he just sleep through Easter? Is he unavailable?
Was he on an important phone call?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Uh? No, you know something happened there? Yeah, yeah, something's
up with old Joe.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I mean, we obviously knew for years something was up
with him, but now they're they're not even letting him
in the picture.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Did they have to wheel him out? They could have
stood around the chair to hide it if that was
an embarrassment.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
I don't know a lot of interesting changes happening overnight,
because clearly something's wrong with Biden, But who knows, that's
just speculation.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
The Pope died and.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Now we learn this The executive chairman of the World
Economic Forum is Claus schwab Boo. I mean, not someone
anyone on this radio show or any of our homies
or big fans of He is resigning from the World
Economic Forum. Probably not a coincidence that at the same
time this is happening, there is a delegate, a diplomat
for China, traveling around the Far East right now, warning
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countries who are renegotiating their trade deals with US. If
you have a friend your trade deal with the United
States and then you have with China, we're gonna cut
you off.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah, I'd say more than a warning. Sounds like they're
going around threatening the other Asian nations. Really interesting, how
that's where?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
So is that?
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Why cause Schwab stepping down? Who knows he's old? I mean,
he's almost as old as the pope is. But still
you the timing of it is fascinating. There's a massive
economic disturbance happening globally this weekend, and this weekend is when.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
He chooses to step down.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Yeah, Zelenski still sending a diplomat around to follow US
leaders as they travel around Europe. And the big changes
are coming in the weeks here as world powers are changing.
And I don't know what it means, but I will
tell you. There's this book in the Bible. I don't
know if you've ever checked that out, called Book inside
of a Book. Yeah right, it's called the Revelations. What
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I know, it's really fascinating stuff.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Man. Well, there's a resident Catholic expert here on the
show guide us through the timing and the procedural aspects
of select the new pope. Here real quick, canny, you
you know, just the cliff notes on how that's going
to work out.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
I'm happy to talk about it because I find the
process to be fascinating.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
So everybody travels to the Vatican.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Obviously it's the cardinals, the cardinals from the world, Africa, Australia, America,
the whole shebang. And you'll be told that this isn't political.
It is a lot of them have never met each
other before. Roughly two thirds of the cardinals in the
world right now were put into their position of authority
by the pope who just died. The Pope who just
died is very progressive, but to be fair, a lot
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of you know, Catholic experts will tell you that doesn't
necessarily mean the next pope is going to be a progressive. Generally,
they try to choose the most dynamic person.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
What are they going to start the fire where we see,
you know, the smoke, the different colored smokes for different messages.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
It's going to happen very rapidly.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
So first they all get there and for the first
couple of days they're all getting to know each other
and you know, there's a lot of like the black
guys don't like the Canadians obviously, and so there's that
tension there always, right, But then after a day or
two they start to vote, and it's so interesting.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
They do it all on paper, right, paper ballots, because there's.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Not thousands of them. There's I don't know, dozens or
a dozen, there's not that many. So it's all on
paper ballots. And then the black smoke means we haven't
picked a guy yet. White smoke means we black is bad.
Black's really bad. Black according to Catholic doctrine.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
According to Catholic chimneys.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Black smoke bad, white smoke lovely to celebrate.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Ye, if you see black, that's that means we don't
make the roles. Okay, So that's gonna happen probably in
the next week. I would think it's gonna there's gonna
be a lot of talk about Catholics over the next week.
And again, not to keep beating out a dead pope here,
but how interesting.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
That will they all have any trands being voted on
for the possibility of being the first trands pope?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Boy, I really hope. So that's so black obviously, we
gotta have the first black pope.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
At least the candidate who gets close if he doesn't win,
you know, I want to get him get up up
their second or third place.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
One of the things I've been told is that they
in the Catholic community, they usually don't want it to
be someone from the United States. Part of the reason
why it was a pope from Argentina is because technically
still Italian, right, We've had a Polish pope during our lifetime. Obviously,
historically there's been a lot of people from Italy to.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
The foreign to all the different countries. Did they you know,
like kind of get behind the there guy. If Germany
had a pope, you know, candidate, you know, the just
like cheering sections do the different countries all come out
and go.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Whooh Germany get the German pope, and you know the
other countries. Italy is like, no, Italy must.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Be it that, you know, I mean, there's no way
to know because it's always anonymous. But one thing that
will differ this time from previous pope selections that that's
is this time they'll be doing all of the vote
counting with dominion voting machines, so that hell, yeah, it's
starting Monday.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Thank god. It's Monday again. Monday, Monday, Monday. Thank god.
T g I am Walton and Johnson Radio Network,