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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Turn off them porch lights, and the kiddos will probably
pass you by. Thank God, you really don't get into Halloween.
It's not your favorite, what is it? I really don't.
I mean, it was all right when I had kids
that were young enough to go trick or treating. You know,
I cute they dress up as power Rangers or whatever.
You know, Uh, but I'm over it, passed it for
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the younger crowd. I guess. I know.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
These two women, they're kind of attractive, just friends of mine.
Not I don't mean to make this sound like it's
more than it is, but they're they're trying to think
of a costume they could both wear. One of them's
a blonde, one of them's a brunette. And they said,
you know what we're gonna do for Halloween. We're gonna
go as Lloyd and Harry. And I said, that's a waste.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
It's a waste. Yeah, you get what that is. Lloyd
and Harry's dumb and dumberum dumber.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah, you're two attractive women and you're gonna dress as
Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels for Halloween. Why even go out?
What's the point of that? Phil so they'll be slutty
Lloyd and Harry, right, that's what I said.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Well, of course, Halloween for women used to be slutty nurse,
slutty teacher, sludy nune. I mean, you know all of
that fun stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
That's what I said. You're gonna go sluts right. And
then they're like, well, how are you gonna do that?
If it's Lloyd and Harry, you got to wear the tuxedos.
And I was like, you're dead to me, Well, you
can just.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Wear the cumber bun and don't raise it up too high,
like as a bra kind of thing. Lower. Maybe it's
just two cumber bunds, just an open tuxedo jacket huh
and a cumber bunton. Yeah. And if they wear it
low enough, they don't even need pants.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
You know, it's interesting for a gay guy. He's some
pretty good ideas from Tyler.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Oh, I can slut it up with the best. Ally
he comes to Florida man, step back, It's Florida Man time,
brought to you by my pillow. You know they don't
get my pillow in prison. Huh. That's why they call
it prison. It's the hard lock, hard knock life Florida
man convicted of killing promo ca WJ. Yeah, oh yeah,
(02:00):
at MyPillow dot com because you want the good stuff, right, Yeah,
that's how we do. Florida man who was convicted of
killing two women whose body he drug out to a
pond out back of his house so that they could
drown to death, is scheduled to be executed tonight about
six o'clock Florida time. Huh. This man's name is Samuel Lee. Smithers.
(02:23):
Has to have three names because he's, you know, on
death row. Smithers. Mister Smithers is seventy two years old. Now,
he wasn't seventy two obviously when he killed these women.
It was nineteen ninety six, I believe when he did
(02:44):
his deed. According to the reports, he met Christy and
Denise on different dates in May of ninety six at
a Tampa motel and paid them for some sex. Really yeah,
Now this was almost thirty years ago, so you know,
he was what seventy he's what? Hello? Is he now?
(03:04):
He's seventy So yeah, he was in his forties. Why
I don't agree with that. And apparently he was doing
some landscape maintenance on a twenty seven acre property that
included three ponds, and the property owner came by one
day to see how things are going with mister Spithers there, who,
by the way, was a deacon at his Baptist church. Wow. Yeah,
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She noticed he was cleaning an axe in the carport
and she was curious, and he said he was using that,
you know, to trim some tree limbs. What's that big
pool of blood about there on the ground And he said, oh,
somebody must have killed an animal. She called law enforcement
because she wasn't buying that story. Sure, I didn't buy
it either, for not for a second. Sheriff's deputies come by.
(03:50):
They took a look. The blood had all been cleaned up,
but they did notice drag marks leading away from the
car port out towards one of the ponds, and that's
where they discovered the bodies of these two women. It's
just like Fargo, severely beaten, strangled and left to die. Wow.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Was there a wood shipper? No woodshipper? Okay, well it
wasn't just like far, not exactly. Do they talk like this, No,
that's too bad. I always like when they talk that way.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
It's so much fun. That makes it funny. Yeah, yeah. Yeah,
So anyway, they're gonna be dropping him off tonight about
six o'clock. And it is a record breaking Florida execution.
I don't know if you're aware of this, but Florida
has executed more people on death row than anybody, even Texas.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Sure, Florida has become the new Texas. Texas become the
new Florida.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yep. At least eight other people are scheduled to be
put to death somewhere in this country. They've already We've
lopped off thirty five in states that have the death
penalty so far in the United States, and there's another
one going on tonight too, not in Florida, but since
we're talking death penalty, you know, might as well cover
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this situation in Missouri. They got a guy over there
they're gonna drop too. Wow, Missouri, it's what they call
it Missouri. Now Missouri thinks they're Texas. You ever meet
people from Missouri?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
No, Yeah, in Missouri they ride rodeo and they drive
pickup trucks and they think they have barbecue, but.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
It's just ribs. Yeah, they really don't.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
And the ribs aren't as good as Memphis as ribs,
I mean they're good, like I wouldn't say, no, you
ever been to Kansas City? Yeah, Kansas City is actually
in Missouri.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
That's what's so. Oh yeah, No, I hadn't been to
that part. That's it. That's why this guy, Lance Shockley
is forty eight and he is it to be executed
in Missouri. He fatally shocked a state trooper over twenty
years ago. And that's how long it takes to get
the get it all cooked up.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, it takes a long time. It costs a lot
of money. And that reminds me the case of Robert Robertson.
For those that haven't been following this, we were supposed
to execut you to dude in Texas this week who
probably did kill a child. The problem is the science
they used to convict him is no longer considered to
(06:12):
be legitimate science for conviction.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Technology is advanced in that world.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
But something called shaken baby syndrome shaking infants in it.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
That might not have been what happened. But he did
kill the child the way, pretty sure about that. It
certainly seems that way. It seems as though he did
kill Nikki, a little girl. But the problem is the
science they used to convict him. Shaken baby syndrome is
no longer allowed, but that doesn't mean he didn't do it.
So if you're a constitutional stickler, do you give him
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another trial? Well, I guess you have to still probably
be found guilty, probably, but you have to go through
the motion. Yeah, and get it done. It's gonna cost
a lot of money. The brother of the dead baby
wants this guy dead. Here's where this gets complicated.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
The original detective, the original detective him, who pushed the case,
who went out and you know, basically advocated for him
to get executed, now thinks he's innocent.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Huh. I know.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
I thought you were going to say he died. No,
it had been so long. No, No, he's very much alive.
This is from twenty years ago. It's from back in
the early two thousands, so most of these people are
still around. That's not really the problem. The problem is
everybody that used to have one opinion about it seems
to now have a different opinion.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
And that's why it takes over twenty years to get
people through the process of execution.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
On Friday, I had two state lawmakers on my afternoon show,
Brian Harrison and Mitch Little Both of these guys are
pro death penalty, both of them have almost the exact
same voting record, and both of them have two staunchly
different opinions about whether or not this guy is guilty.
(07:54):
And I let them both talk on my show for
about twenty minutes a pop, and at the end of
the whole thing, I did not still And by the way,
and a lot of my friends think this guy's guilty.
I have a lot of friends that think he should die.
What's confusing is the judge that's delaying the execution and
the state lawmaker that's advocating for another trial are working
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with a totally different set of facts than the Attorney
General Ken Paxton, than Mitch let All, the state lawmaker
advocating for the execution, and the brother of the dead
little baby. So there's a lot of people that I
respect that are close to this case, a lot of
people that are deeply involved with but this has affected
their whole life, family members, the detective, and they all
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have totally different opinions about it.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Oh yeah, So if you're just trying to look like.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Well, what do most people think, Well, what does the
family think, Well, what does the investigator think? It's all
something different, something different, So what do you do if
you're the judge and someone walks in? This stuff gets
really confusing when you start looking at forensic evidence and
some of it's been nullified and really disgusting. The diagnosis
of shaking baby syndrome is now widely discredited as being unreliable.
(09:02):
But and also Brian Harrison came out with photos of
the baby the moment it was brought into the hospital
and it doesn't look bruised. Here's where it gets complicated. Oh,
people will often point out, well, right after you get punched,
do you have a bruise?
Speaker 1 (09:14):
No shaken baby syndrome? If I remember it from back
in the day when they thought it was a thing,
now they think it's not. It kind of like that
woman that got hit with the board out in Salt
Lake City, you know, in the wind. They said, the
shaken baby thing doesn't bruise the baby's body so much.
I mean maybe where you're gripping it, but it the
(09:37):
baby's head and connection with the brainstem and the spine
and all. It's not real strong, and if you shake
the baby, it can just separate that connection back there
at the base of the skull.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
So you're saying, don't shake a baby, don't Oh, weon't
shake it. Wow, you gay guys really know a lot
about taking care of children.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Yes, yes, you have stolen my dreams. My childhood was
your empty woods. Stay tuned for more Walton and Johnson,
these guys tomorrow night with a meal and the sniffers.
I assumed you were probably interested in seeing them or
something because of the way you were jerking your body
all around when you started playing that stuff. Dude, that's
a good drummer. Listen to that. Oh is he any?
(10:17):
Is he Neil Peart? No? Well, I mean, I hate
to rub it in, but is he He's alive? Is he?
Buddy Guy? Buddy Guy plays drums or some somebody named
Buddy played drums. I don't know who are you talking about.
There is a drummer named Buddy. Who is it? Who
is the drummer that you're think Buddy Rich? Yeah, that's
(10:37):
why Buddy Rich. The The reason I even know that
is because I remember this is a weird thing to
remember way back when I was just a little kid
watching TV. Rich Little remember him the question?
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Now?
Speaker 1 (10:49):
He told a story on the Tonight Show once about Ed,
was it Ed Sullivan that did that show where he
talked funny and he introduced people right hair on the
smurry Street, he said Avis, and of course he was
doing an Ed Sullivan impression. But as soon he said
it was a highlight of his career. He was on
the Ed Sullivan Show and he was a young man
(11:10):
and and Ed introduced him to come out on stage.
She says, here he is everybody, and this is Rich
little coming out. He says here he is Buddy Rich
and uh, you know, Rich didn't say anything because he's
a young kid, and that said Sullivan. But still he
got the name wrong. That is hilarious, that's funny. Back
jokes were different back then. Lenny Bruce used to be
(11:32):
a comedian. Uh uh yeah, I know. Well, the reason
I Buddy Guy was on my mind is because, uh,
somebody emailed from the app. They didn't sign their name,
So I got a bone to pick with Kenny here.
Apparently yesterday you said Buddy Guy was pretending to.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Be from the South. Do you remember saying something like that.
We've addressed this before on the show. He was born
in the South, but he's lived in Chicago most of
his adult life.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
His career. You know, blossomed in Chicago. But he's from
South Louisiana, so he wouldn't pretending to be from the South.
He's from the South. That's all they wanted to say.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
The listener yesterday that heard the brief part of the
conversation didn't know that. We've already explained that in other
episodes at the Walk and Johnson Show.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Imagine that somebody missed one of our Yeah, how many
shows do you think we've done in forty two and
a half years.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
We're only on the air five and a half hours
a day. I know, I don't understand why you don't
listen to all of it.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I don't know why people can't make the time.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
You know, it's important to us. Why can't it be
important to you?
Speaker 1 (12:31):
You know? That's all I want to know.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
All right, So, if you haven't heard yet, it's an
important day today for Charlie Kirk that we are going
to be honoring his life today, and at the same time, similarly,
today the left will be denying the existence of Antifa.
I have a montage of both. What would you rather hear?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Oh that Antifa thing? I I was just don't understand
how it is that the Democrats just get it, and
isn't isn't he about the nastiest person in politics, And
there's a lot of nasty people in politics, but I
think he's He's just the nastiest, most disgusting person, And
(13:12):
maybe he was leading the charge. The Democrats all seem
to get the same email every morning, and then they
are just charged with going out and acting like they're
saying it in their own words. But they all use
the same words. It's so obvious and transparent what they're
up to.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Chuck Schumer was recently on Al Sharpton's MSNBC show. Now,
to our younger listeners, that won't mean much to you,
But for our older listeners who remember Robert Downey Junior.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Remember well Shopton, way way back in the day, boy
in New York City.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Boy did he hate the Jews among other things. There
were two things he hated, Diets and Jews. And then
now the truth and don't forget the truth.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Sure of the truth.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yeah, but anyway he'll make an exception, he'll take a
break from hating the Jews to like Schumer, deny the
existence of Antifa.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Libal conservative moderate people should be forcefully rising up against this,
speaking out against it, and making it clear how inimical
this is to what our democracy has been for so
I stood for for you know, more than two centuries.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
There's no Antifa. This is an entirely imaginary organization. There
is not an.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Antifa like I don't even know what Antifa is.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
There is no group. It's not even like for our
right groups like the Proud Boys and Oathkeepers.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Compared to right wing extremists, Antifa linked violence is rare
and limited.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
It isn't an organization. It is a it is in
many ways mythology. It's not like the Proud Boys oath
Keepers defined terrorist organizations with leadership that let that you know,
leads violence. It's not a highly organized movement. It's a
monikers and it's it's it's not a unified moment like
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the Proud Boys are things. Antifa are things that are
thought of. It's all of the guys of going after
in you know, you.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Know who doesn't agree that Antifa is not real Antifa
Antifa they're rioting in Portland every night.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
I asked them, what more proof do you need that
they exist?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
They have shirts that say Antifa on them, and then
They'll they'll tell you in one hand, well, we're anti fascist.
You must just not like us because you're a fascist.
And then in the other hand they'll say, antiva is
not real. Well wait, you just told us it's anti fascist, right, No, no,
it's a myth.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
But how did they all manage to come up with
the comparison of the Oathkeepers and Proud Boys that it's
their marching orders that they get from on high.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Most people don't even know what the Oathkeepers are, much
less the Proud Boys.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Not really the oath Keeper. How often do you come
in contact with the oath Keeper? They're just always up
to something, aren't they. They're in the news every day, right.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
I've never know I've never met the oath Keepers. I've
never met him. I've met the Proud Boys, and I
will tell you when I met the Proud Boys, it
wasn't what I was expecting. We were told they were
white supremacists. Most of the Proud Boys I met were
black guys or Hispanic guys. What black guys are Hispanic guys?
Speaker 1 (16:08):
And they calling them white? No, they call him the
Proud Boys. They ain't white.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
No, They're like a drinking club that shows up at
left wing riots. They go out when there's a left
wing demonstration and then if there's a fight, they'll participate.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Or I can see there might be some white Hispanics involved,
but they some white black folks do. Okay. Again, the
Proud Boys are not.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
You can dislike the Proud Boys, but to call them
white supremacist wouldn't be really intellectually accurate.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
It would be they do. It would be a lie.
But they do. They call them that. We met one
like two weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
There was a black guy at our comedy show who
claimed to be a member of the Proud Boys. And uh, look,
I'm not a member myself. I'm not endorsing everything the
Proud Boys ever did, but I'll tell you one thing.
Just haven't talked to that guy for five minutes. He
didn't seem like a white supremacist to me.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
And they ain't Antifa, are they now?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
No, But him and his buddies did get into a
fight with Antifa, so they must have gotten a fight
with someone.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Well it was all made up. Is make believe they
were fighting invisible people.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Well, if they were fighting invisible people, then you can't
arrest them for fighting.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
And who set all those buildings and cars on fire
during the last Antifa protests, and who was breaking all
those windows out at the stores? Must have been the wind.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Tell the people in downtown Kenosha that there's no such
thing as Antifa, and they'll say, well, they lit a
car dealership on fire, and then the church next door
burned out.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
But the police station that got lit up a couple
of those Saint Louis Ferguson, right, Oh yeah, who did that?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Must have been the wind. I've met Antifa. I will
tell you here's my favorite Antifa story.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Very rare. You know. I'm I get along with everyone
here in the city.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I get along with the gays and the Straits, and
the whites and the Spades. I get along with all
of them, right, And it's the lyrics to a South parts.
But I don't have a problem with gay people. But
I will tell you who does have a problem with
gay people, Antifa. And the reason why I say that
is because the couple of times I've interact with them,
they shouted homophobic slurs at me.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Oh did it hurt?
Speaker 2 (18:10):
You know, I'm very comfortable with offensive language, and that.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Can really hurt. Well, it's just weird to hear a.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Bunch of people who claim to be defending gay rights
shout the word that rhymes with bagat at You by
the go ahead.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Call me in.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
I don't care what you call me. You know, you
guys are unemployed and you have a septum piercing. I
don't care if you like me or not, but it's
weird to have you say in one hand that gay rights.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Are your Bob Sagett, Yes, Billy, yeah, that is weird.
You don't look that much like him. I mean, I
guess a little bit if it was late at night.
Why do I feel like he never understands the point
of any story? I tell I don't think that's just
your feeling. You are so woke. Walton and Johnson Radio Network,