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September 10, 2025 16 mins
Kenny Webster interviews journalist Laura Loomer.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, if you enjoy the Walton Johnson Show like we do,
then you might also enjoy the Pursuit of Happiness show
in the afternoon with oh Kinney Webster there.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
And as a matter of fact, I think, do we
have a clip? Can we play a clip?

Speaker 3 (00:16):
All right?

Speaker 2 (00:17):
So really exciting.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Apple just unveiled the new iPhone seventeen yesterday. Meanwhile, the
iPhone eighteen launch is scheduled for the day after you
buy the seventeen, so that's something to look forward to.
Welcome back from break kids. It's always interesting to me
to get to talk to some of the most controversial,
some of the most influential, some of the deepest thinkers
in America. I know that's bold talk. You know, there's
a regional radio show. We have some big journalists and

(00:41):
politicians and comedians on this show, but sometimes we get
to collaborate with people who have an audience bigger than ours.
And this next guest is a perfect example of that.
She actually ran for Congress a number of years ago
and then and lost right kind of like Rodney Dangerfield.
It was this amazing comeback where I don't know if
you know this about New Dangerfield. He failed at comedy

(01:01):
at a young age, and then came back a decade
later and became the biggest comedian of his lifetime. I
always thought that was an inspiring story. Laura Lumer not
quite as old as I think. She's younger than me.
She's a millennial. Ran for Congress and it didn't pay
off the way she wanted it to, and the neo
cons came after, the liberals came after. So she became
a journalist, and now a lot of people consider her

(01:23):
to be the most influential journalist in the White House.
Her stories often get credited for being the cause of
new policies. Donald Trump reads her work regularly, and so
I'm very excited that she's not a big fan of
John Cornyn.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
I mean, that makes me really happy.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
I know some of you mixed feelings about Ken Paxton,
but he's clearly vastly better than John is. The incumbent
candidate here is corrupt as a warmonger, He's really done
nothing for the border. Every time Joe Biden is in
office or some other Democrat, he does anything he can
to support any swampy bill that crosses the liberal president's desk.
And let's not forget a couple of years back, he

(01:59):
helped Joe Biden didn't pass a gun control bill.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Thanks a lot for that. Red Flag laws.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
By the way, Laura Lumer authored this piece that went
viral yesterday on social media, and I found this to
be fascinating. She talked about the ties between neo cons
like John Cornyn who support any corrupt war. You've ever
heard of any any swampy bill. We're gonna send money
to Burma to fund to transgender puppet show, you know,
whatever crazy thing it is, abortions in India, whatever it is,

(02:27):
John Cornyn wants to fund it. And it's interesting to
think this woman that got murdered on that light rail
in Charlotte, North Carolina, you've all seen the video. By
this point, she wouldn't even be in America if not
for the fact that people like John Cornyn fund wars overseas,
bring in refugees by the boatload, and then interesting a love. Amazingly,
this is the same neoliberal, neo con mentality that they

(02:50):
have is the reason why there's not enough police out
on the streets in places like Charlotte, North Carolina. But
rather than have me explain it to you, I wanted
her to explain it.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Laura.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
I'm sorry for being a little long in the tooth,
but it was excited to have you on the show today,
and I felt like there was a lot to be
said here, but you could probably explain it better than
I can. There is a tie between John Cornyan and
what we just witnessed in that video, isn't there.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Yeah, well, thanks so much for having me on. I've
been looking forward to coming on your show for a
while now. And yeah, look, I mean, just like you said,
what's ironic is that this poor young woman, Irena Zurutska,
this Ukrainian refugee, wouldn't have even been in the United
States had it not been for neocons and also open

(03:30):
borders Democrats who sent billions of our dollars, taxpayer dollars
overseas to fund a war in Ukraine. I mean, that's
how these refugees were created.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Both.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
What was even more sinister about this is the fact
that you know, you expect this topic of so called
racial injustice, right, and I use air quotes around racial
injustice because you know, we're eleven and twenty twenty five,
we've already had a mixed race president. I mean, you know, you,
you are pushed to the front of the line in

(04:01):
this country these days if you are a black lesbian,
or a black woman, or a black man, or a
Hispanic woman, or even an a legal alien right white
people are now permanently occupied at the back of the bus,
it seems. But I bring this up because you would
expect those types of talking points to come out of

(04:21):
the radical left. But when you try to make sense
of how something like this horrific stabbing of Arena Zarutzska
could take place in North Carolina in the middle of
people sitting on sitting on the light rail, their version
of the subway, you have to ask yourself, how did
we get to this point? And I think that a

(04:42):
lot of this normalization of hatred towards white people, anti
white racism, and also just the apathy expressed by the
blacks who were sitting next to her on the train
when she was stabbed. I mean, it's quite incredible for
people who are listening and haven't seen the full video
or they haven't seen the screenshots of the still frame.

(05:03):
When she's in shock, bleeding out of her necks profusely,
there's like four black people just sitting next to her,
doing nothing but sitting on their iPhones, and they're not
freaked out, they're not offering to help. She's bleeding out.
They clearly just witness this, you know, career criminal black
individual stab her three times in the jugular and none
of them offered her help. And when you examine a

(05:27):
scene like that, you really come to realize how mainstream
hatred her white people has become here in the United
States of America, and you have to ask yourself, why,
why did this happen? How did we get to this point? Well,
you look at the Black Lives Matter movement, which really
catapulted and became more mainstream in the aftermath of the
death of George Floyd, who did not die from police brutality.

(05:50):
And you know, he did not die from being suffocated
by a police officer with his knee on his neck.
The autopsy conclusively determined that he died from a sentinel
overdose and when he was resisting arrest, it obstructed his breathing,
which was caused an exacerbated by sentinel in his system. Yeah,

(06:12):
he has enough sel, He had enough. He had enough
sentinel in his system to kill a rhinoceros. Okay, and
I bring this up because you know, you look at
your own Senator John Cornyan, it's a bit of a ranch.
But these these details will matter to those listening. In
twenty twenty, Senator Cornyan delivered a speech from the Senate

(06:33):
floor in which he said that one of the biggest
issues in our country that we still need to combat
is racial injustice, and he blamed racism for the death
of George Floyd, who is a career criminal. And when
you think about it, George Floyd is very similar to
this unscrupulous individual to Carlos Brown Junior. Now, George Floyd died,

(06:53):
but Carlos Brown Junior is now facing federal charges. President
Trump is calling for the death penalty, and he's still alive.
But you look at Carlos Brown Junior, and he really
is a spinning image of a George Bloyd. He is
the twenty twenty five version of George Floyd. And you

(07:14):
see the media is refusing to mention the fact that
he's a blackmail a repeat offender. They almost want the
story to be buried. But it's people like John Cornyan
who gave a voice to this breed of career criminals,
mostly black and Hispanic individuals, who think that it's okay

(07:34):
to go around attacking, robbing, and murdering white people. And
so I encourage you to play the audio from the
Senate floor speech so that everybody listening knows what the
stakes are if they send John Cornyan, this uniparty, uniparty
rhino swant monster back to the United States Senate for
another term.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
All right, I got that audio right here. Let's have
a little listen at a president.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Ours is a nation.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
With the split screen of a battle on two fronts.
One is the pandemic that we've been fighting now for
many months, and the other is to continue the fight
to defeat racial injustice that has sadly divided our nation
since its very inception.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
One week ago.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
Today, George Floyd, a native Houstonian, was tragically died in
the custody of a law enforcement officer.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Has the gut wrenching.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
Video of his death spread, so has the passion and
the anger among all of us who wonder how can
something like that happen. Our constitution guarantees every American the
right to protest injustice, and I believe we all have
a responsibility to stand up for what's right and condemn

(08:51):
what is plainly wrong. People of all color, backgrounds and
ages are demanding that justice be served.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
I look, I think you raise a great point here.
George Floyd would still be alive if not for bad
decisions made by George Floyd. Maybe people don't like how
that police officer handled the situation, that's fine. But George
Floyd is still dead because the things that George Floyd did,
and that's terrible. But this Ukrainian refugee, who wouldn't be
even be in America if not for the fact that
we fund both sides of every single war on Earth,

(09:22):
would probably this is a complicated thing to say, Laura,
but I really believe this is true. I bet she'd
still be alive if she'd have stayed in Ukraine. Somebody
pointed this out to me the other day, and I
didn't believe it, so I had to look it up.
Since the war started, the death rate, the homicide rate
in Ukraine is still lower than what it is here
in the United States of America. And if we just
took into consideration the statistics full I don't.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
That's because I don't. I don't think they have a
lot of black people. I mean, we're going to be
honest about who's killing who's doing most of the killing.
I don't I don't really know what the population statistics
are at Ukraine, but I guarantee you their homicide rate
is low, if you know, when you talk about non
war related hume homicides, not talking about the death count
from this brutal war. But it's sad because they don't

(10:04):
have a lot of black people. And that might sound
very jarring to people to hear, but it's true. And
even President Trump I found a tweet that he posted
in twenty thirteen in which he said that most of
the crime in America is being committed by Blacks and Hispanics.
A tough conversation to have, but it must be had.
And he's right. Why aren't we going to talk about
the fact that most of the violent crime and homicides

(10:28):
committed in this country are committed by black youth and
Hispanic youth. It's not racist to say that, right. It's
an epidemic that derives from the destruction of the nuclear
family in America, the exceptionally high rate of fatherlessness and
black households, and you have all these young black men

(10:48):
who grew up to be thugs and gangbangers. And there's
a reason why over fifty people are getting shot and
killed on Labor Day weekend in Chicago. Right. It's not
because white he's going around putting his putting his knee
on the back of black men, right, selling drugs or
doing drugs. It's because all these black men are killing
each other.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
I grew up in the north suburbs of Chicago, and
I know this is going to sound crazy to hear
me say this out loud, but it's true. I've watched
people get shot before, and I watched somebody get stabbed once,
and I lived in pretty relatively safe parts of the city.
I moved from there to a red state, Texas, Houston.
I've never seen anything like that as an adult in
the city of Houston, Texas. And Houston ain't perfect, but

(11:28):
at least it's not that I do wonder this, Laura.
We've been told over and over again, if we criticize
black people killing each other.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
In Chicago, we're racist.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
If we criticize a white person getting stabbed to death
on a light rail in Charlotte, North Carolina, that's also racist.
Is it ever okay to call out violence and be
critical of it? This doesn't seem like it should have
to be political. How is it political?

Speaker 3 (11:50):
Yeah, I think it's important that we're able to speak
for violence, but we also have to be able to
speak freely about the cause of violence. And we need
to start addressing the the proliferation of anti white racism
and black on black crime or the black crime right
in America. Race is real and we are living through

(12:11):
Obama's race war right now. This is the legacy of
Barack Whussein Obama and we need to come to terms
with it. Barack who say Obama started a race war
and it's time for us to finish this race war.
I'm not advocating for violence, but what I'm saying is that,
you know, he created a race war in our country.
All of this racial animosity began with Barack Whussein Obama,
and look at what it's done. Look at what it's done.

(12:34):
And so it's time for our politicians to stand up
and say white lives matter, just like they stood up
or actually they took a knee forgive me. They kneeled
and said black lives matter in the halls of Congress,
and they erected all of these statues and had a
gold casket for this, you know, career drug addict, you know,

(12:55):
convicted fellon George Floyd. It's time for our paiticians, especially
our Republican senators, to reaffirm that white lives matter. I
know people will say, well, all lives matter. Okay, Well,
if everybody believes that all lives matter, you wouldn't be
seeing black career criminals stab a white woman on a

(13:16):
train and then say, yeah, I got that white bitch.
I mean, that's what the audio said. Go listen to
the audio yourself. Sorry, I don't know what I'm allowed
to say that word on the radio.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
You're okay, Yeah, it's okay.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
This is this is the same radio station as Jesse Kelly.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
That is a hate crime. That is a hate crime. Hey,
y I get that white bitch. Go listen, go listen
to it. But you they're not going to show that
on TV. Right, So uh, it's it's an a bombation.
And this is the result of eight years of Barack
Hussein Obama justifying violence against white people and saying things like, oh,

(13:51):
if I had a son, he would look like Trayvon Martin.
You know, this is this is the result of Obama's
race war and It's time for politicians, especially those seek reelection,
to end the race war that Barack Hussein Obama started.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
It's hard to disagree with anything you just said. It's
just objective truth. You have been criticized for doing this
kind of journalism, and you know, you run an operation
with a relatively small team. It's pretty much you and
a couple of people that help you out. It is
your stories. The work that you do have a bigger
audience than most mainstream news outlets right now, and there's
a lot of pressure on you and people doing similar

(14:26):
work as you, some of your friends, to stop doing
what you're doing. But I got to think, Lauren, you
know I just call balls and strikes here. The work
that you did played a really big role in helping
Donald Trump to get over the finish line in twenty
twenty four. I know there's a lot of people out
there that want you to stop doing this kind of journalism.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
What would you say to those people?

Speaker 3 (14:47):
Well, I better get used to me, right, I'm not
going anywhere anytime soon. I think it's really important that
people fight for what's right. And you know, I guess
I'm blessed to have the platform I have as an
independent journalist, and yeah, it's a lot harder because I
don't have the type of funding that a lot of
these other more mainstream media outlets have. But I like
to say that I will know when I am no

(15:10):
longer wanted or needed as an independent journalist because the
funding will dry up, and that will tell me that
the people no longer find value or an interest in
my reporting, because that's how I'm funded. I'm funded by
grassroots donations and everyday Americans supporting my work with either
subscriptions online or with donations to my website. So I

(15:30):
will know when it's my time to, you know, go
away and fete into darkness and no longer be a
reporter anymore when I can't, you know, raise the funds
needed to do my work on a daily basis. But
I think that, you know, I'm doing a service to
the country. I'm doing a service for the American people,
many of whom are still silenced in a sense because

(15:51):
not everybody can speak out freely. They feel like there's
going to be retribution, professional social retribution for saying the
things that I'm saying, or you know, you see it too,
saying the things that you say on your radio show
on a daily basis. So it's important that the independent
media is able to operate freely and unrestricted.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Laura Lumer.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
You can find her on ex at Laura Lumer, investigative journalist,
host of Lumer on Leash. She writes tweets that have
a bigger audience than CNN and The New York Times. Laura,
thank you so much for your time this afternoon. We're
always grateful to talk to you.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Oh thanks for having me on. I really appreciate it.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
If you can hear my voice, you're still above ground
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