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December 12, 2025 • 20 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So it's not a big deal. I don't care.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
In fact, I love when I have an obligation that
suddenly gets canceled.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
It sounds like you could probably care a little bit. Well,
something weird happened to me. That doesn't always Yeah, but
this weird stuff just falls in your lap.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
This isn't so much a thing that happened to me.
It's a thing that's happening to white guys that work
in the media. Oh lord, And again, it's not a
big deal. I'm happy to have a thing.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
You know.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
If there's a birthday party for someone I love and
I bought them a present and it suddenly gets canceled
at the last minute, I love not having to do
I love an obligation being canceled.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
I love that. I think we've all reached the age,
and people are reaching that age. I think sooner now
than they used to. When you make plans, it seems
like a good idea. Yeah, that'll be fun. Weeks or
months later, when the plans actually time to execute and
somebody goes, oh, yeah, we we can't make it's like,
oh thank god, why'd you make the plans? It's just

(00:57):
fun canceling. Well, I got canceled. Something I was supposed
to do this weekend got.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Canceled, and I don't want to get the guy in trouble,
so I'm gonna be careful about how I explain this.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
I like the guy that booked me. He's a producer
for don't tell us who it is, and I think
then he won't be able to get in trouble.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Let's just say a friend of mine who is a
producer at a national conservative cable news.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Network, Well, you're really starting to wear it, narrow it down.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Well there's a few, right, maybe there's a few booked
me to do an interview this weekend. I was supposed
to be on a panel to talk about Venezuela and
drug boats and it just got canceled.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
And I said, oh, why why do you get canceled?
Is there an event or something?

Speaker 2 (01:38):
He said no, they have temporarily canceled all interviews upcoming
with panelists who are conservative white men. They said there's
too many conservative white men on the upcoming panels.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
No white he's allowed. Now, how you feel about that? Wait,
put a sign up, say white he's No, you're not
allowed to pull take in this. You don't care for it.
Let's do you okay, So here's the thing. Didn't care.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
I would have it was an interview that was supposed
to take place at like seven in the morning Eastern
Time Sunday, which means it would have been five in
the morning here, some god awful hour. I wouldn't happy
to have it canceled.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
So there's that.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
But then also it's like, oh, wait a second, because
I'm a white guy.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Did you try to fight that at all with the
whole you know, your you're dusky, your Italian, you're you know,
you got some some melan. Oh my god, don't make
me show you the text. Do not make me show
you that. Now you have to show me the text.
Did they talk about the fact that or did you
bring it up? Hang on a second, you're not officially
all you know, well you are European white though.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
I'm not going to say the network, but let's just
say if you've been following me on social media, it's
a network I've been on a few times recently, so
you probably know blah blah blah just canceled you and
most of my other white males for the month of December.
There's a fatois against most white males except for the
ones who are national news people with millions of subscribers

(03:00):
or so. And I was like, that's fine, I said,
but I was just on this channel a couple of
days ago with a different person booked to me. They
didn't have an issue with me, He said, it's not
about you, it's about white men. They're trying to book
more lefty women. And we went back and forth a
little bit, and I said, well, it's fine. I'm tell

(03:20):
them I'm Italian and I have a large social media
following both technically true true.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
And he said, you do.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Have a large enough social media following, but Italian doesn't
count as boo and I said that I'm not white,
I'm Italian, all of tone.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
I see that, And he said.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
I agree that as a white guy, you're as an
Italian guy, you're not technically white, but you're white adjacent.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah, European white is still white.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
You know what screwed this up for me, mister O
nine to eleven. Oh yeah, back before nine to eleven,
Italians were not in Greeks, we were not considered white.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
We were considered something else. And then happened at Middle
Easterns also Olive toned, well, no, that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
We had to make room for the Middle Eastern guys
to get more discrimination and skepticism from here. So we
got moved out of the pile. And it was fun
until it wasn't. I'll tell you what, And now you're
having to live with this, and now I gotta live
with now. I don't get to get up at five
in the morning and talk about Venezuela and drug boats
on a Sunday, and so you.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Can stay up late and party hardy on Saturday night.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
I don't know if you noticed, but if you learned
anything from last night, that wouldn't stop me from it.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
You're staying up late and doing a broadcast the next day.
By the way, speaking of working, I just realized that
we were gonna have to work tomorrow, a rare Saturday
morning show. We'll have no choice. I just found out.
I'm sorry, what tomorrow? No we got we go to
sleep in tomorrow and go skiing. Ye. No, tomorrow is
Taylor Swift's birthday. You wouldn't want to miss the Taylor

(04:52):
Swift Special Birthday broadcast, would you.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
I don't think that Taylor Swift's birthday is a national holiday.
And even if it was, we don't usually work on
the weekends.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
I still feel really, I just feel like we missed
out on so much if we're not here to celebrate
along with her.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Well, hang on, maybe we could use this controversy in
the cable news world to our advantage. Maybe only the
minorities should have to come in tomorrow and the white
guy should all get canceled.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Okay, well, it's also Morris Day's birthday. Morris Day in
the Time. I love Jungle Love in the Bird. Yes, bro,
I love Morris Day. You know, we'll just work tomorrow
for Morris Day in the Time.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Then, absolutely, dude, of all of Prince's backing bands, that
was definitely one of them.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
How about do this now since there's the weekend, we
come in late and leave early. How about that? Well,
I think that's what you're doing. Steve here the boss.
What do you think of that idea? Yeah? That's gonna fly. Okay, yeah,
all right, cool. That's so Dick Van Dyke's birthday. I
don't want to do the birthdays right now, but I
just noticed there's some big stars here. Old Dick van

(05:53):
Dyke is going to be if he wakes up tomorrow
morning and this morning he'll be one. You Well, no
you don't remember the Dick Van Dyke show.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
I'm aware of what it is. I also remember Mary Poppins.
Chim chimminy chim chim There was this It was bister.
Oh you should have seen this movie. It's so funny.
Their faces got all covered in dirt and sot and
then they danced around silly on a rooftop.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
They didn't blackface, Yeah, I guess sort of if you
want to right, No, I don't now you want to
celebrate that. Huh. No, No, no, they weren't doing blackface.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Their faces were just covered in a dark matter while
they were doing a blue collar work for other people's
entertainment and singing and dancing a jolly tune.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah, but it was like a hundred years ago, so yeah,
times were different than.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
They really were. Yeah. Here's what I don't get about
Dick Van Dyke. Did y'all know he's a commy. I mean,
he's a full book. He loves Zorhan Mom, Donnie, Bernie Sanders.
He's a full as old as he is, as rich
as he is. You would think this is a.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Guy who would have half a brain turns out.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
No, And of all the people to star in a
popular Hollywood film with a bad British accent, I gotta
think he's right at the top.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Well, yeah, Kevin Coffner too. Robin Hood, he tried to.
I don't know even know if he actually tried. I'm
not sure he gave it as all, but boy, people
did not care for him pretending to be for England.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
You know what I mostly remember about Robin Hood because
I was a little kid at the time.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
It was the legos.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Robinhood had written that when the movie came out, they
used it as a vehicle to sell legos, and I
had all the I really enjoyed the Robin and I
never thought much about the British accents.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
Hmmm, I never thought about the legos. Yeah, I get it. Yeah,
And then happy to say I don't have children, so
I don't have legos around the house. And then what
was the other thing?

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Sting Rod Stewart and Brian Adams all did a song
for the soundtrack that was a big hit that summer,
and that was how I learned who.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Those three guys were. The leg movie. Well, no, I
think it was for the regular Robin Hood, Robin Hood.
Yeah you remember, right, mister Kunneth, Not the one with
Kevin h No, the one with Kevin Costner. Been other ones.
He that's not the first time they've made a Robin
Hood movie, but that was.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
The first one that had like, were they all British
or just two of it? Is Brian Adams British?

Speaker 1 (08:10):
What is his?

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Ah Canadian? That's even worse than British. Gross yuck Canadians.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Speaking of movies, when we get back every year around
his time, we have to argue about whether it's a
Christmas movie or not, you know, and the first one
that comes up is die Hard. Honestly, it is everybody.
I think we've convinced everybody that that obviously is a
Christmas movie.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
And I came up with a good excuse for why
Bruce Willis is wrong about that, and frankly, it's kind
of mean should I say it?

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Anyways? His brain isn't working quite right now?

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Well, after all those years, I mean, no, you're onto
something here, After all those years of people speculating, he
finally weighed in on it. Right is his dementia is
kicking in? Yeah, and right is his dementia was kicking in.
He was like, no, it's not a Christmas movie. But
then like six months later he couldn't even figure out
where he was, you know, And I don't mean it's
a guy. I love Bruce Willis. He's one of my

(09:01):
favorite actors. But I do feel like he was wrong.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
About that one. Yeah, he was wrong about that him.
But I think we taught him. We educated him. Now
he probably agrees with us. So what do we do. Well,
when we get back, we'll have to take a look
at some of these other offerings and see if you
believe their Christmasy enough.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Now that says Christmas like mister Hanky, Merry Christmas.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Walton and Johnson Radio Network. It's not good.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Uh, but it wasn't the right we but we got
it wrong. We were thinking of a different movie. All right,
I got it wrong, Okay, you remember I always I
don't know. It's funny how I guess it's the Mandela effect.
Looking back on a seemingly mundane thing. My mind took
two terrible movies from that era, and that just smashed
them together. The memories we had, Oh god, no, that

(09:56):
was from the nineties. The Tree, some of the worst
movie's ever made well, hang on, Steve's Mike's not Onlads,
Mike's not on.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Mister Kenna's Mike's not on. Taking care of yourself?

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Oh, this is the Kinney Apology Tour. Okay, so we'll
all just sit back and listen. I'm sorry, everybody didn't
turn your MIC's on? Everyone is everyone?

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Mister? Ow? Is your mic on? Everybody? You you've turned
everybody else's microphone on because you got that little d
lee thing there in front of you, the controls. But
this time you didn't. Steve is your mic on? What
it's not on? That's fine. Steve's mike's not working. It's
fine anyway, we'll turn it on. You didn't turn nobody
his own. But you'll see we can't turn them all

(10:36):
on it once. It's too many buttons. That's gonna drain
the internet. I think no, the awful movie that that
song was from. Uh, Brian Adams, Well, now, okay, here
I am.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Brian Adams, Rod Stewart and Sting collaborated together on a
song called All for Love, which was from the Three
Musketeers movie.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Why did you bring it up when we were mentioning
the Robin Hood movie? Because I forgot which movie it was. Huh,
they were both bad, though pretty easy to mix them up.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
And which was a terrible movie, the Three Musketeers movie.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Who was in that movie?

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Uh, don't look at me, Charlie Sheen, Keifer Sutherland, Chris
O'Donnell and Tim Curry.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Again not the first three months gteers movie ever made either.
It is just the one that you're aware of.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
No, it was complete garbage though, I mean, just all horror.
And that was nineteen ninety three. Was a Walt Disney film,
and looking back on it, I gotta think Walt Disney
probably regrets hitching their wagon onto the Charlie Sheen brand.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
I'm not sure Walt Disney has any regrets, and if
they do, then that's probably down the list quite a way. Well.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yeah, now they're all in on trans kids, so I
guess a crack smoking guy with HIV is not the
worst thing they've ever been associated with.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
You talk about magic, no, Charlie Sheen, Oh jo, Okay,
I got you. Not. I didn't think magic was, didn't it. No?
I don't think that Charlie magic ever smoked crack. The
reason it all came up because somebody asked us about
Christmas movies. Rambo Go, is Rambo a Christmas movie? See
the movie they're talking about is called First Blood. I

(12:08):
didn't call it Rambo until after we met Rambo in
First Blood. The rest of the movies were Rambo movies. Okay,
Gremlins is a Christmas movie? Oh, definitely, that's on the
list to hook. Remember that Peter Pan movie.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
I guess it did have a Christmas tie in, didn't it.
But what about First Blood? I mean it was Christmas time.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Let me provide a little evidence with you. Who's that?

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, okay, that's who's that. That's Frank Stallone's brother. Frank
Stallone's brother follows me on Instagram. Okay, that's Rambo in
First Blood. What's that?

Speaker 1 (12:41):
That's a Christmas tree. Yeah, the town was decorated for
the inside of the police station where they took him
in to give him that whooping. I'm gonna allow it Christmas.
It's a Christmas movie. You can watch First Blood at
Christmas time. Man.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
If your wife says no, that's just because she hates Christmas, yeah, exactly,
don't let her ruin Christmas.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
No, absolutely not. That's Grimlins. I guess we all agree, right, Grimlins.
That's all around Christmas. Yeah, we already did that, Yeah
for sure. Yeah, Okay, Lethal Weapon Mel Gibson chases a
guy through a Christmas tree park, a lot, a saleslot,
you know, the grease.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
The thing I always liked about Lethal Weapon is it's
like a couple of white guys and a black eye
team up and they get the job done. It kind
of reminds me of us, you know, it's just like
this show. Yeah, and isn't this a Christmas episode?

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Right? It is?

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Then?

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Sure it's Christmas. Sure shouldn't somebody be wearing one of
them little red and white hat? I mean I brought one.
I'm sure you're dead. Yeah, I go get it in
a little while. But I have to deal with the stairs,
you know how they are. It's a lot. Yeah, it's
a lot of work going up these stairs. Trading places,
you know that one with Eddie Murphy and and Dan Aykroyd,
like swap places and stuff.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Absolutely Christmas, although to be fair, doesn't Christmas come and
go and then the story continues, Well, yeah it doesn't
end on Christmas.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah, that's a Christmas Eve movie. Yeah. I also could
qualify as a New Year's movie. Yeah, you're getting into
Rocky Land. Rocky is the most holiday movie ish the Besides,
look look at what you combined with with Rocky. You
get Thanksgiving right, Christmas, New Year's absolutely and punching. Yeah,

(14:12):
it's punching a lot of my favorite things.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah, okay, I think the thing that always pissed me
off about the first Rocky is that he wins because
he goes the distance, even though he didn't win.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
That always disappointed me. Yeah, that was kind of the
reason for you running a marathon. You don't have to
be the first to cross the finish line to be
a winner. You win if you finish, and then they
give you a medal because it's quite an accomplishment you did.
That was what what? Whatever happened to that metal?

Speaker 2 (14:42):
I threw it in the garbage And by the way,
watching me accomplish that that's not fun to watch. No, yeah,
my ex didn't even watch. She didn't care at all.
You know, it's well, I don't think most xers would No,
but wasn't an X then it's besides.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
The point.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
The point is it's boring to watch, you know, watching
somebody jog for four hours, that's you know, what's.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Really fun though, watching them trying to walk the next morning.
Oh god, yeah it was. And if you ever have
to do stairs to me, they did a marathon and
it was the first one and he had no idea
how it was gonna affect him. The next morning he
woke up, he couldn't. He couldn't put his the toes

(15:22):
and the heel of his foot on the floor flat
at the same time. And then he had to go
downstairs to the lobby of the hotel to get coffee.
He couldn't. He couldn't make it back up. It was
like you have to you have to kind of lean
sideways to get your legs to work. This was one
of your friends. Why didn't he just have his Latino
twink go get it for him? He was in the
room with me. Oh, now I get it.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Hey, Well, you know it's interesting you point this out.
Sometimes healthcare sometimes exercise is bad for.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
You, like running a marathon.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Sometimes healthcare could be bad for you, especially when it's
not really healthcare. A new study has identified a dramatic
rise in the mortality rate for quote unquote trans women
who use cross sex hormones. Yeah, it turns out injecting
yourself with an excessive amount of something your body probably
never should have had in the first place, can.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Be really unhealthy for you. Do the doctors have any
clue as to what might be killing them all?

Speaker 2 (16:16):
One of the most yeah, one of the most frustrating
things for opponents of alphabet ideology is that the entire
intellectual framework is based on a lie and multiple eyes
at that. A lot of the support for treating so
called gender dysphoria medically instead of through psychology is based
on a belief that these so called experts and sketchy

(16:37):
physicians are authority figures whom we should trust, and not
just people that are trying to make money off the
fact that you have a mental health.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Problem or any other kind of health problem. I'm a clue,
y'all all in on a little thought something here in
case y'all didn't know suck. I don't if you call
it Obamacare, you know, affordable healthcare, or you just call
it blue crawl, blue shie, or whatever you got, uh.
I'm telling you and nobody in the medical industry of
these trying to make you healthy. They they coming up

(17:04):
with all kinds of things that they can do to
treat your illness of whatever's wrong with you. Don't come
up with no cuels. If you cure people, you can't
make no more money off of Absolutely, they want to
sell you the treatment, not to cure. That's what the
population a little unhealthy and dependent upon the government. That's
why I'm into peptides these days. But good, now, that's

(17:25):
a way to go. You can take care of yourself.
You got to look out for you. You got to
go and do where you get your peptizes. I go
to the Timeless Clinic dot com. That's a way to
take care. You'll sell yeah, it's and they'll mail it
to you.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
But they have brick and mortar medspots in both Metai
and Comington. Hey, you brought up Obamacare. A second ago.
The Senate had these dual healthcare bills, both two different
ways of looking at Obamacare subsidies. Because the Obamacare subsidies
are about to expire. They say that one of them
was already rejected. But you know, I was thinking to
be kind of funny here, wouldn't it be funny if

(17:56):
the two bills, if people got confused about which is which,
and they both passed the Senate On December eleventh rejected
a pair of competing healthcare measures aimed at addressing expiring
Affordable Care Act subsidies. Both procedural votes ran largely along
party lines.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
That's what to shut down the government.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Neither were able to gain sixty votes needed to advance
in the chamber.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Okay, so we're gonna shut down the government again after
the first of the year.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
And Senator Ran Paul was the lone Republican who voted
against both of them.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
He's always that guy. Yeah, but I think that's kind
of cool.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Anyway, Even if he did vote yes, they still wouldn't
have the sixty votes they needed, so it didn't matter.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Get mad at him, Okay with it? I like a
no vote vote, no to everything. Do you see the
government shutting down again for the same reasons right after
the first of the year. Because this temporary everybody get
back to work till the end of the year thing.
It's gonna end up about three weeks. We're gonna be there. Okay.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Your understanding of this is pretty close mine. Maybe I misunderstood.
I thought the Obamacare subsidies were going to expire and
then we'd have another budget bill at the end of January.
So it's not one but two things here that could
be happening soon that will cause gridlock in.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Washington, d C. Well, I think this is a obviously
divided country now, and I don't think anybody could argue
it ain't not maybe not quite ready for the Civil
War yet, but we're we're sure getting close. Why can't
we have the Republican's bill for Republican voters, and the
Democrats can have their own healthcare bill for Democrat voters,

(19:24):
and then the guys that don't have a voting record
or a preference and they can just pick whichever one
they like. You know, it's an interesting theory you've got there.
They tried this one.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
So what if we cut a country in half and
half of the country was communist and the other half
the country was like a version of capitalism. That's pretty
similar to what we do here in the United States.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
You're saying that has been done before.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, on the Korean Peninsula, And as it turned out,
half of the island of peninsula is pretty much completely
blacked out.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
No lights at night, no an just darkness is what. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
They don't have electricity, no food, no water, no medicine.
In fact, there's so much malnutrition that, after over half
a century of this happening, roughly most of the population
is on average six inch inches shorter than people at
the other side of the peninsula.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Generationally, they become less and less healthy and less in stature.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
But don't worries, Norhan, Mom, Donnie, I'm sure this time
Marxism will work.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
It's bound to this time. Oh, it's so good.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
It's like Christmas in my mouth, meat Christmas.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
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