Mother Gives Daughter to Cartel to Pay For Debts - TUE 6.2

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's not not important, Billy, Telly, Tilly? What what are
guys giggling about that?

Speaker 2 (00:09):
I was just telling.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Billy, I don't know, you know how serious to take
you when you claim you're a baseball fan when the
Chicago Cubs are in the Baseball playoffs like they are now? Sure,
but I hope you didn't, you know, put a lot
of money on it, or have your your heart set
on them, you know, winning the whole thing.

Speaker 4 (00:24):
Oh, they're getting their asses kicked by one of their
art tribals, the Birds.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
I didn't know if you knew or not, but they're
not doing well?

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Are we doing?

Speaker 3 (00:31):
And I don't even keep up with that kind of stuff,
but I just heard from a friend who who said,
tell Kenny.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
This is Cubs suck. This is two segments in a row. Yeah,
they're not doing great. How uh you know? I hate
to bring it up, but the Braves, the Rangers, and
the Astros, how are they doing in the playoffs?

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (00:45):
They didn't make it? Oh okay, so but this isn't
a sports story. It's just something I wanted to say
good morning and find out if you had heard the
terrible news.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
But of all the people, you know, who don't get
upset when their team losers. Is there anybody you'd put
on that list, like list of anybody that'd be before
me on them?

Speaker 2 (01:02):
You're the least upset by any of this.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
I don't care. I mean, I enjoy when my teams win.
If they lose, I don't really care. It wasn't going
to get a trophy or anything. They're not going to
invite me to the celebration or new I like sports
as a novelty. I don't get emotionally invested. That's good
at all. I just I can't because, like yesterday, I
noticed a lot of people were arguing about Taylor Swift's

(01:26):
new album resembling the Jonas Brothers, or that there's a
song on the album where they make fun of gay
pop star Charlie XCX or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Or they talk about her boyfriend's penis.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
And when I hear that, I don't think our.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Young girls that are Taylor Swift fans need to hear
or singing about her boyfriend's junk, do you?

Speaker 4 (01:44):
And after getting that information into my brain, the only
thing I can think about is how there's a war
on every corner of the planet and I'm supposed to
care about this. Yeah, sorry, Cubs and Taylor Swift. Right,
I do care a little more about the Cubs than
Taylor Swift, but.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Well, sure, I would imagine. So, how do you feel
about child murder?

Speaker 4 (02:06):
I'm generally against child murder unless we are talking about
going back in time and killing Hitler, and then I'm
supposed to be for it.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yeah, but you're not really sure because you don't know
if that's just gonna make things worse.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Well, the reason I brought it up is because somebody
sent us an email about a story in Kentucky. I
don't know if you get to Kentucky much. It's at
a Louisville Huh. This actually happened in a well the
name of this in Versailles, Kentucky, which is over that way.
A man convicted in twenty eighteen of stabbing a six

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year old boy to death in twenty eighteen. Now he
stabbed him and killed him in twenty fifteen, I think,
And it got around of twenty eighteen before they got
his trial and gotting convicted in the early morning hours
of December of twenty fifteen. This guy, Ronald is his name,
stabbed six year old Logan Tipton to death and also

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attacked his family because they were trying to stop him
from killing their boy. So the jury sentenced him to
twenty years in prison in twenty eighteen. That's not twenty
years ago. By the way, they didn't find him guilty
of murder though, he was not guilty of murder by
reason of insanity, so they just convicted him of second
degree assault.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
He killed a six year old and he got second
degree of fault.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
But he did give him twenty years though, and so
they just they just released him.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
And did you hear what the dad said. He just
they called him a non violent murderer. The dad said,
if he sees this guy, he's gonna kill it.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Well, of course he is what you're supposed to do
as a father.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Even after he's you still about to protect the memory
of your son if you can't protect his actual life.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
I want to ask for a pre forget this year
from Ourcajun listeners before I mispronounced this guy's name. Is
it plouch or planchet, Ploche? Gary Ploche?

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Is that how you said? I think so, I remember Gary.
I think it was Ploche. For our younger listeners, you
won't remember.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
This was a little before my time, too long time
ago in Baton Rouge, there was a court case about
a child molester and he got a light sentence and
he was walking or got let off or something that
the father didn't get the justice.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
He was looking for it for the guy who raped
his son.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
And so as the man was walking through the Jody
Planchet was the child's name. I think, as he was
walking through the courthouse, the father, father of the year
in my humble opinion, was standing there pretending to use
a payphone, which is an antiquated term.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, but did. And then when he walked by, he
turned around and shot the guy in the head.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Now, we're not.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
Supposed to be happy about that, but I'm certainly not sad.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
And I know it.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Probably things didn't go well for Gary after that, but
you know, he had to do what he had to do.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
Dude, come on, Actually, funny you bring that up. Very
light sentence, didn't do any prison time. He was on
probation for a decade or still understood.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
You send that to a jury and any of those
jury members have kids, they're probably feeling you.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
Now, let's go back to this guy in the news
right now. I know the world's a different place now,
we're a little more sympathetic to criminals.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
But this guy murdered a child.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
If the dad killed this guy, and I am not
encouraging that for legal reasons, here are.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
If there's a lot of ifs, and you know, but
and you know, if they could be canned like nets,
I had to have a big ziller at Christmas.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
If they put you on the jury, would you send
that dad to prison?

Speaker 2 (05:34):
No, lot wouldn't hell.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
To the No, I wouldn't send him to prison. This
guy murdered a child. The government should have executed him.
A child. You killed a child. He's a non violent murderer,
kiss my hand.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Nonviolent murderer. Whoever strung those words together? And that is
the craziest thing ever.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
We should be investigating the judge and the the attorneys
that let this guy out of jail.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Where's the parole board that let.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
This guy go?

Speaker 2 (05:58):
I'm guessing in Kentucky.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
I want to know about them.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
We need to get up there. Yeah that stuff out.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Oh they got bourbon, you know what they do?

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yeah, the best bourbon get sent out of Kentucky to Texas.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Though where I get to drink it.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
I feel like i'd be a good prosecutor. Oh, I
think you would be. Like, First of all, just look
at this guy.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Look at him.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
Second of all, have you seen him look at that faith?
Third of all, I mean I've heard him talk.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Oh have y'all actually seen the picture of the Houston
woman that shot her four kids? Have you seen, like,
looked into those eyes? Don't look long. I think you
might get pulled into some kind of another dimension of
psychosis that you can't even begin to get out of.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
Would you say she looks dead behind her eyes a
little bit? They say that about Bonnie Blue as well,
the woman who goes around having sex with everyone in England.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Something wrong with these people, But what is it?

Speaker 4 (06:53):
Is it psychotropic drugs, or is it too much social media?

Speaker 3 (06:56):
Or sometimes people's brains just ain't right from the from
the get go. I don't know how they ended up
being an adult. They had the same brain the whole time.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
It is weird when a mom kills her kids, because
they say that very rarely, like pregnant women almost never
commit suicide because it's too important to them to protect
the baby, which is part of the reason why what's
this congressman down at the border there, Uvalda Tony Gonzalez.
They say this is all purported, alleged whatever, that his
mistress killed herself by lighting herself on fire.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Its people have claimed, because it's tough call, she got.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
Caught sleeping with the congressman and it ruined her marriage
or whatever.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
If you did feel like ending your own life out
of shame and degradation or whatever, do you think setting
yourself on fire would be your top ten choices of
ways to go?

Speaker 4 (07:46):
I don't know, probably not. No, that would not be that.
An electrocution, I'd hate that. But it was claimed that
she committed suicide because she got pregnant and her husband
was And I don't think that checks out for me.
I don't think a pregnant woman kills herself.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
You suspect someone else may have doused her with the
flammable liquid and lit the match.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Who would that be?

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Well? Good question.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
First of all, before I answer it, I need to
point out we don't know if she was pregnant, We don't.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Pure speculation on almost all of this, except for the
fact that she is dead and she did burn.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
And she did burn right.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
Some have claimed that because it's a border community, and
because the cartel groups like the golf car Towels and
a loo as Losada is because they have so much
control over law enforcement south of the border, it is
possible that they have some influence over law enforcement north
of the border. And some have speculated wild conspiracy theories
that maybe this congressman who's always been kind of soft

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on immigration at the border, that he's in bed with
the car towels. And some have speculated that because she is,
you know what, what would the word be, compromising his power? Yeah,
one way to get rid of her is to make
it look like she killed herself.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Now, I don't know if any of that's true. That's
just a thing people are saying.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
And you and me we might have a problem with, uh,
you know, setting a woman all fire. I would, and
I'd like to think you would.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
I wouldn't want to kill anyone if you know people
in the cartel guessing they're not going to have a
bigger problem with it. I don't think I'd ever want
to be in the cartel or even hang out with
those guys. I don't like anything about him except one thing. Yeah,
you ever noticed a lot of them at Pet Tiger's.
I think that'd be kind of cool.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Okay, yeah, about all this like evidence, this is the
Walton and Johnson Show.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
What our listeners just tipped me off to a story
that has ruined my breakfast? Oh no, but I am
glad the listener pointed it out to me.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
It sounds like he was mad at the listener. A
listener just ruined your breakfast. We'll just listener's name.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
No, we needed to know about this.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Email us too.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
If you have information, even if it will ruin her breakfast.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
Lisa, and thank you for sending this to me. I mean,
I don't like the news, but I'm glad Lisa An
tipped me off to it because people need to know
about This is about your clacking balls. No, my balls
aren't clacking that much. I saw a talk to her
about that.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
We got a lot of emails about clacking balls for
some reason. Uh, well, I guess you always talk about
that this morning, clackers. Uh now, I'm assuming you're talking
about the kids game and not what you're throwing around
downstairs in your pants.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Hey stop that you're not Taylor Swift. You know.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
I don't even remember having this conversation we talked about clackers. Oh,
I guess we did. Yeah, clacking balls? Yeah, yeah, how
about that. You know what I miss is a bag
of glass. When I was a little kid, you could
get a bag of chards.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Of glass, and it wasn't the safety glass like they
came out with later. These were a jagged, pointy rip
you to pieces glass.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
All right, before I tell you what happened an Orange Beach, Alabama?

Speaker 1 (10:40):
What what? What did the emailers say there?

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (10:43):
This one says the clacking balls. Mine were made out
of a heavy plastic resin so they didn't break or fragment.
Mama took them when my brothers decided to use them
as nunchucks. Oh yeah, that that'll put hurting on you
right there, somebody starts a wall like that in a

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clacky upside your head.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
I was a child in the eighties and nineties, so
I remember the ninja turtles. I think they still Ninja
turtles still thing. And we had nunchucks back then. Yeah,
and they weren't even safety nunchucks either, you get real
wooden ones.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
They were fun.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
And we're yours tied together with a rope or chain
or definitely a rope. Yeah, I didn't have access to
a chain.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Then the chain was a little more uh unwieldy and noisy.
And I like the fact that the nunchucks were, you know,
pretty quiet right up until you hit yourself in the
hip with them r right on that point of that
hip right there when you were doing the down thing like,
and then you started cursing a blue streak and people
could hear you for blocks away.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
Yeah. I missed those days, a day when a child
was given an actual weapon as a toy. Can I just.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Butt in here if you don't mind and ask for sure?
You and you in the rear, go ahead?

Speaker 2 (11:53):
What was it that ruined your breakfast?

Speaker 3 (11:55):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (11:56):
So in South Alabama, there's this woman as a country boy. Yeah,
well no, there wasn't a country house South Alabama.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Become a country boy. No, this is a new story,
but for a man named Jim.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
No, this is a.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
Story about an illegal immigrant Willie McCoy. There's no country
boy in the story.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
I'm McCoy's anyway.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
I'm telling you it's an illegal immigrant from Mexico is
in South Alabama at Orange Beach, and he had a
girlfriend and they owed money to the cartel. So in
order to protect her illegal immigrant boyfriend. This twenty three
year old woman took a baby that she her baby
down to Mexico and gave it to the cartels as payment.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
No bit, no what.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
A young girl from South Alabama has been rescued and
returned home after being kidnapped in September from Orange Beach.
She was kidnapped by her mother's taken to Mexico three
years old. What's going ready on a three year old
down southeast days?

Speaker 1 (12:50):
It's a great question.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
Haley Harris, age twenty three, took keone Hoggin, age three,
to be handed off as a debt payment owing to
a cartel.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
You can tell o. Wait, she don't really love her baby.
She named it Kioni Keoni.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
Yeah, there's a little white girl in case you're carriers,
because I didn't know what's keoni?

Speaker 2 (13:07):
What is that Hawaiian?

Speaker 4 (13:08):
Or The debt was reportedly not the mother's but her
current boyfriends, who was allegedly an illegal alien. Even worse,
and the illegal alien boyfriend has a record a child
molestation and ties to organized crime in Mexico.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
It makes this he probably knows what a three year
old child is worth, and he's like yeah, you take
the three year old dead there and they'll take that
as payment.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
Yeah, interesting, was the three year old the ex value?
Is that the exact amount of money or was there change?
How much did she twenty five two and fifty thousand?
Was it millions? And they just erase your debt if
you give them a child, if the kid's worth more
than you owed, do they give you like.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
An older, uglier kid has changed or what have you?
They send her back when she's seven?

Speaker 1 (13:51):
I don't know, and what do they? And I hate
to ask, but what do they do with her?

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Good question? Yeah, what a wife?

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Because I know what they do. I just don't want
to say it out loud.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
You think it's slave labor, obviously, I.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Don't know if that stops.

Speaker 4 (14:05):
I don't know if that phrase goes far enough to
describe what was probably gonna happen to that little girl. Anyway,
she got rescued, and so the I mean, what happens next?

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Who knows?

Speaker 4 (14:16):
It's just an ugly news story, this little girl's poor life.
Imagine being born into that. I don't like it. Your
mom gave you to the Cartalis payment.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
For her boyfriends that she was tracked through her digital
footped from Orange Beach to California and later to Mexico
by the Sheriff's digital forensics team. Now, this is a
woman who lives in or did live in the Walton
Johnson listening area. But I guarantee you not a listener.
Oh no, she's not a listener, not a fan of
this year's show.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
I'm gonna have to agree with you. I don't think
she's a ten percent.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
Right now, if you had twenty four hours with me
and I couldn't say no, what would we do? Well,
young and we go fishing, and you and I'd have
a talk about your goals in life

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Walton and Johnson