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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
You ever read a mainstream news story that explains a
cultural phenomenon and you just don't believe it.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I don't believe what I just read.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
There's a Wall Street Journal article today by Rachel Wolfe,
and she did what's from the other day, But you
know it's a recent article. It's gone viral, as you
can if it's from last weekend. It's under the Lifestyle,
Relationships and Saturday Essays section of the Wall Street Journal.
And as you could probably guess from the music playing
in the background, the wedding March from the flash Flash Gordon,
(00:48):
of course, that's Queen. The nineteen eighties was a very
different time. Well, you know what, why don't we start
the explanation there? In the nineteen eighties, I think it
was really the end of the nuclear family, right, we
were moving. It was post sexual revolution. The birth control
pill was quite common. Women were not uncommon in the workforce.
That was a regular phenomenon. Then Kenny Webster was but
(01:10):
a little toddler, and women had corporate jobs. Even if
I never found the shoulder pads that women wore in
the nineteen eighties and their business suits to be attractive,
I don't understand the point of that, but I do
know this a shift from that to this. The article
in the Wall Street Journal I want to react to
here is called American women are giving up on marriage.
Major demographic shifts have put men and women on divergent paths.
(01:33):
That's left more women resigned to being single. The numbers
aren't netting up. What they described in the article is
that because women are earning more money than men, they
no longer want to marry men. I don't believe this.
I don't believe that that's the real reason why. But
I'm willing to be objective here. I'm open minded to this.
My experience is as such. First of all, most of
(01:56):
the women, as you guys know if you listen to
the show, I recently became divorced. When not thrilled about it,
but look, it happens. It happens to about half of us.
Pretty common, right. So I'm dating again, and my experience
is A that women are not making more money than me.
But okay, that's you know, that's my experience. It's anecdotal.
And then B that women do want to get married.
(02:17):
Most women I meet immediately tell me they want to
get married, they want to have kids. Now, again, anecdotal,
that's just my experience. They're using raw data and statistics
here to explain how most women don't want to marry
men that earn less money than them. And I don't
even believe that. I don't believe that how many OnlyFans
models out there? Women generally control two industries, right, despite
(02:40):
what this article would suggest, Women generally tend to control
two industries, sex and beauty. Beauty and sex, those are
things women dominate in. It's true, right, models, cosmetics, fashion, whatever, porn?
What kind of women are those men dating? Unemployed losers?
May be handsome unemployed losers, but do you think that
most porn stars OnlyFans models, Instagram models, fashion designers, you know, pick,
(03:04):
you know, we push the domino away from there and
teeter into all the other little industries that women tend
to do. You think those women are all marrying men
that earn more than them. Now, created when it comes
to celebrities. There's some truth to that. You know, Taylor
Swift's not going to marry an unemployed loser other than
Dolly Parton, most female celebrities don't end up with a
(03:26):
guy that is less famous or wealthy or successful than them.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
But I digress that. Just I just don't believe this.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Call me skeptical, And again I'm basing this only entirely
on my own experience, and maybe I'm just different.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I don't know. I do know.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
My friend Austin Peterson is a student of culture. He's
a man who studies a lot of field research what
is happening in the zeitgeist of humanity here in the
western half of the world. Austin Peterson, you may be
familiar with from the Libertarian Republican, also runs the online
store for the Walton and Johnson Show. He's an author
media personality. Austin, you saw the story American women are
(04:05):
giving up on marriage? Do you buy it? Do you
think that that's why? Do you think this has to
do with income levels?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Yes, Kenny, I'm shocked at your point of view on
that one. I hope everybody out there on the Gulf
Coast beautiful Gulf of America is having a wonderful day.
Thanks for having me back. I don't know. You sound
like you got some cope. And I know a lot
of right wing conservative men who are in your situation, Kenny,
and a lot of them are coping. And this is
(04:33):
where the red pill came from. Originally, the red pill
community came out of these discussions of men sharing their notes.
You know, I've got a gay buddy, a gay guy,
and he says that if being gay were a choice,
it would be the right choice. And while that may
be funny, you and I we can't choose to be gay.
But it's hard out there for the men. It is
(04:54):
hard out there for the young men. I absolutely believe it.
Fifty set of women age eighteen to forty we're single
in twenty twenty three from forty one point eight percent,
so in the last twenty five years, an additional ten
percent of women choosing not to get marriage. College educated
single women unmet expectations is why they don't want to
(05:19):
get married. We're not meeting their expectations, because Kenny, what's
happening is it's we're still living in a time when
you know me, if the Titanic sinks, it's still women
and children first, and the men have to stay on
board the ship while the women and children get away
in the lifeboats. We still have a mentality from the
(05:41):
late eighteen hundreds that places standards and expectations on the
behavior of men while women are completely and totally liberated
from their old gender roles. Now, I don't hate women.
I love women, but we have to talk about a
society that says women are completely and totally free to
do as they please, to get as much education as
(06:01):
you want, get as many jobs as they want. But
men still have pay on the first date and provide
and be the main providers and make more than their wives.
Because here's the thing, Kenny, the statistics don't lie. If
your wife makes more than you, she's gonna cheat on you.
She's gonna leave you more often than not. It's that
doesn't happen in all cases. But if you are not
(06:21):
doing your job as a provider man, you are not
considered to be worthwhile. This is why men and Mike
Andrew Tate have been getting traction here in the United States,
because men have started to come to realize through the
red Pill, they've started these communities. They started to realize
that they're getting a raw deal, and it's not even
equality for women would be a step down in the
(06:44):
United States, Kenny. And if we can't have.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
It's true. Well, I'm not disagreeing with you. It's just
funny to hear someone explain it like that. I don't look, Austin.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
It's always everyone always assumes cause and effect. They see
something happening and they see how and what the result is,
so they assume there certainly is a correlation right between
modern day we're professional career standards.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
For women and the marriage rates being down. That's true.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
But is it possible that the actual cause and effect
is something else. Is it possible that part of the
reason why the marriage rates are down is simply because
for some people it's just fun to date, is you know,
it's convenient, it's fun. They like having a different person
they could be with every month or two. I mean,
we're all assuming that this has entirely to do with
(07:35):
income level, and I'm just not sure that our conclusion
is so accurate.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Have you asked the average college educated woman what her
opinion is on politics lately, Kenny? Have you? I mean,
if you can get past the mesmerizing effect of their beauty.
And many of them are quite stunny when they go
to college what happens to them? Right? The diverging world
views between men and women is why the gap between
(08:04):
our political views and our values, Kenny, between the values
that men hold and the women that the values that
women hold, have never been more divergent. Thirty nine percent
of women eighteen to twenty nine identified as liberal in
twenty twenty four versus twenty five percent of men. That's
a gap that's tripled since twenty fourteen. Only fifty eight
(08:25):
percent of young women see marriage is essential to the
American dream versus sixty six percent of men. Swipe left
if you voted for Trump, right, progressive women in conservative
regions actually go even harder to the left to resist
the values that you sspose and US thousand, I imagine
(08:46):
many of your listeners, especially the ten percenters, absolutely right.
The ideological divide between men and women has never been wider,
and you we didn't listen. People can have their opinions.
It's fine, it's free country rights, individual liberty. But you've
got to live with them, Kenny. You know, I had
a very prominent, very prominent celebrity one time turned to
(09:08):
me one time and of this this is the tuxedo
night dinner, and he said, whatever you do, Austin, Mary
a libertarian woman, he said, Mary, a woman who shares
your values. He's like, or your life will be hell.
Essentially I'm paraphrasing, he's like, your life will be hell.
And those women like I got the last helicopter flight
out of Saigon when I got my beautiful, redheaded libertarian
(09:29):
wifey Steffy. But you know, when she came along, I
was like, Austin, for forego all women before her, because
she They are rare as Hen's teeth, Kenny. So you
have to understand, you know, what I'm saying is true.
The values of these young women are so far left
that they would make Stalin blush.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Okay, but we're talking about a very specific group of
college educated women, you know, age twenty one to twenty
nine or thirty five and below. Generally, after women become
married in America, they don't they often leave the liberalism behind.
After women become married have a kid more often than out,
they're not like that anymore. And again totally anecdotal, right,
(10:09):
but my experience has been When I'm going out on
dates with women who tend to be very liberal, I
don't tell them what I do, Austin. It's I don't
tell them what I do for a living. On the
dating apps, I put down that I'm in advertising, which
is technically true, right, and generally I just wait, I
listen to them talk about politics. I sit it out.
Women love when you let them talk. You probably have
(10:30):
figured this out. You're married. You've noticed that anyone really
likes talking about themselves. But women love to tell you
about their opinions. They love to opine. And once they've
run out of things to say, and I've heard all
their talking points, I start to form what my response
is going to be. And then more than once I've
read pilled to them. Now, these aren't women that I
remain in relationships with. It's probably a safe bet that
(10:53):
months afterwards they end up hating me. But at least
for that brief fleeting moment and time there, I feel like,
for lack of a better explanation, you can date the
liberal out of a woman. Maybe I'm maybe I'm an optimist, Austin.
That's just been my experience.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
It can be, it can happen. But they But but
I'll tell you that on a long enough curve, they're
going to buck you. They're going to they're eventually going
to revert back to the mean. And and here's the thing.
You're taking a sniper approach to this, which I can
I can respect, I can respect. I took the Genghis
Khan approach to it, where it was like cast wide,
(11:32):
nets wide and far day, lots of people, right, and
and put yourself out there, be exactly who you are,
because Kenny, it's obvious. You know, your position of power
that's elevated from a position of the media right that
give that platform is attractive to women. You could use
that to attract women. You say you don't choose to
do that. You tell them you're an advertiser and all
(11:52):
that kind of stuff. That's fine, But the problem is
is that you have to have volume to be able
to make the decisions of about You have to know
what is a good woman and what is not a
good woman. And by the time you get to about
our age is about the time you found out what
a good woman is and what's not. I mean, I'm
sure you had heartbreak. I had my heartbreak back in
(12:12):
my days. Right, you know, you know exits that cheated
on you or whatever. Right, but you had to have
those experiences until you and build those experiences up to
where you can know what's a good woman and what's
not a good woman. Kenny, you and I, I mean,
you'd be first to say it can be hard. You
can get into relationship with someone I think you know
them and then all of a sudden things change. Right,
(12:33):
So opening yourself up completely and totally for who you are. Yes,
it's going to attract the wrong, wrong type of women,
but it's also going to track the right type of woman,
and it's your job to sift them out. So I
think the Genghis con strategy is much better than the
Zilezetive sniper strategy my opinion.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Well, to your point, I am divorced, so.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I didn't want to. I didn't want to, like some
in your eye or No.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
You're right, No, you're correct about that.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
I live alone with a French bulldog named Milton Friedman.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
So to your point, I know it's in it.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
But one of my best friends is a physical trainer
in a gym. It's a pretty good job. His wife,
on the other hand, is a lawyer, you know what
I mean? I think that though the attractive business woman
hooking up with the muscular lumberjack type.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I think that's a thing, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
You will date a waitress, you, Kenny, You will date
I did. You will date a girl who scrapes barnacles
off the bottom of a ship that's that sales to
catch gull shrimp in the Gulf of America. Will women
say the same, Kenny. They won't. As a matter of fact,
they won't say the same thing. Women will not date
(13:43):
you or consider you unless you are at least as
good as them, if not more. And even if you
are at least making as much money as them or
have as much cloud as them, they still expect you
to pay on the first date, and they still expect
you to do all the chival chivalrous things. So my
question here is, and this is really the real question,
the centrality of this debate. Sure, and it's a challenge.
I don't know if you'll be able to answert or not,
(14:04):
But how can we function right? How could we possibly
possibly return back to what you know, a situation where
men and women need each other and rely on each other.
If women are liberated from their gender roles and men
are not.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
In order for society to continue to thrive, in the
population to continue to exist. Yeah, I mean obviously world
countries obviously.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Well right, but you know funny, But here's the thing,
the question women, American women don't want those people either, right,
They barely want white men that are that are average
and make a decent way.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Are liberal women are racist?
Speaker 3 (14:42):
You're saying of extremely, absolutely, but they'll they'll pay black
men if they make enough money and play football. But
the but the uh, the thing about the here's the thing.
The only liberation from gender roles that men experience is
either being gay or being transgender. So if if liberation
from male gender roles leads to homosexuality or to transgenderism,
(15:07):
well then you're not You're still not You're out of
the dating pool. Right, So if you want a heterosexual relationship,
women are entirely liberated from their gender roles. I mean,
they're constrained by biology nature if they want to have kids.
But they don't want to have kids, they don't want
to get married. So then what does liberation for heterosexual
men look like from gender roles? Well, it looks like
(15:28):
not paying for the first date, not being the provider.
But women can't accept that, so it's a catch. Twenty two, Kenny,
We're an impasse. What do we Either we can do
two things. We can either one liberate men from their
gender roles further, which women aren't going to allow. Or
two we put women out back into the kitchen and
they make the sandwiches again, which do you think is
(15:49):
more likely to happen? Right, So you can't have it
both ways. You can't go down the men, women and
children first, Like I said, equality being a step down.
You can't have women liberated from their gender roles and
then men not, and then men still be having to
live in the by the standards of chivalry in the
late eighteen hundred.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Ten hundreds, I would agree with that. Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Option three, we legalize sex work for women, thus making
uh right, Well, well, wouldn't they.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
There're plenty of jiglos. I knew plenty of jigilows, and
they made good money.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
And I was going I was going to the other
direction on this.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I think if your average guy could just legally pay
for an escort or a prostitute or a massage therapist
or he probably wouldn't care that much about you know,
the gender shock, right, the women making more shock.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
You know, people portly, people love to portray pornography as
some like, you know, an industry of men praying on women,
and there's certainly is an aspect for that. But if
you think that women don't, like leefully participate in a
lot of these acts a lot of times, you know,
the problem is, Kenny, is that, like we still have
this concept of this victimhood mentality of women men. They're
not victims now. As a matter of fact, many of them,
(17:03):
many of them since the nineteenth Amendment, Kenny, have become
our oppressors. Do you think that it's a is this
a causation correlation fallacy that the rise of authoritarianism in
the United States has come along with temp you know
what came along with women's with women's suffrage's temperance. Yeah, yeah,
that shall touch liquor, shall not touch urts. Where do
(17:24):
you think all of the restrictions? What do you think
it all comes from? Oh? Think of the children? Do
you it's the Where do you think the tyranny is
coming from? Who's voting for it? Who do you think
is voting to put the transgenders in the in the
in the girls' sports. Do you think it's men Kenny
voting for that?
Speaker 1 (17:40):
I mean, I I assume that it's people that are
absolutely nuts from both of the two genders.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
But I will tell you this, we.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Went a little This is that I could talk about
this for hours, but we did go a little along
on this segment.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
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And as a matter of fact, I think, do we
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You ever read a mainstream news story that explains a
cultural phenomenon and you just don't believe it.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I don't believe what I just read.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
There's a Wall Street Journal article today by Rachel Wolfe,
and she did what's from the other day, But you
know it's a recent article. It's gone viral, as you
can if it's from last weekend. It's under the Lifestyle,
Relationships and Saturday Essays section of the Wall Street Journal.
And as you could probably guess from the music playing
in the background, the wedding March from the flash Flash Gordon,
(00:48):
of course, that's Queen. The nineteen eighties was a very
different time. Well, you know what, why don't we start
the explanation there? In the nineteen eighties, I think it
was really the end of the nuclear family, right, we
were moving. It was post sexual revolution. The birth control
pill was quite common. Women were not uncommon in the workforce.
That was a regular phenomenon. Then Kenny Webster was but
(01:10):
a little toddler, and women had corporate jobs. Even if
I never found the shoulder pads that women wore in
the nineteen eighties and their business suits to be attractive,
I don't understand the point of that, but I do
know this a shift from that to this. The article
in the Wall Street Journal I want to react to
here is called American women are giving up on marriage.
Major demographic shifts have put men and women on divergent paths.
(01:33):
That's left more women resigned to being single. The numbers
aren't netting up. What they described in the article is
that because women are earning more money than men, they
no longer want to marry men. I don't believe this.
I don't believe that that's the real reason why. But
I'm willing to be objective here. I'm open minded to this.
My experience is as such. First of all, most of
(01:56):
the women, as you guys know if you listen to
the show, I recently became divorced. When not thrilled about it,
but look, it happens. It happens to about half of us.
Pretty common, right. So I'm dating again, and my experience
is A that women are not making more money than me.
But okay, that's you know, that's my experience. It's anecdotal.
And then B that women do want to get married.
(02:17):
Most women I meet immediately tell me they want to
get married, they want to have kids. Now, again, anecdotal,
that's just my experience. They're using raw data and statistics
here to explain how most women don't want to marry
men that earn less money than them. And I don't
even believe that. I don't believe that how many OnlyFans
models out there? Women generally control two industries, right, despite
(02:40):
what this article would suggest, Women generally tend to control
two industries, sex and beauty. Beauty and sex, those are
things women dominate in. It's true, right, models, cosmetics, fashion, whatever, porn?
What kind of women are those men dating? Unemployed losers?
May be handsome unemployed losers, but do you think that
most porn stars OnlyFans models, Instagram models, fashion designers, you know, pick,
(03:04):
you know, we push the domino away from there and
teeter into all the other little industries that women tend
to do. You think those women are all marrying men
that earn more than them. Now, created when it comes
to celebrities. There's some truth to that. You know, Taylor
Swift's not going to marry an unemployed loser other than
Dolly Parton, most female celebrities don't end up with a
(03:26):
guy that is less famous or wealthy or successful than them.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
But I digress that. Just I just don't believe this.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Call me skeptical, And again I'm basing this only entirely
on my own experience, and maybe I'm just different.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I don't know. I do know.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
My friend Austin Peterson is a student of culture. He's
a man who studies a lot of field research what
is happening in the zeitgeist of humanity here in the
western half of the world. Austin Peterson, you may be
familiar with from the Libertarian Republican, also runs the online
store for the Walton and Johnson Show. He's an author
media personality. Austin, you saw the story American women are
(04:05):
giving up on marriage? Do you buy it? Do you
think that that's why? Do you think this has to
do with income levels?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Yes, Kenny, I'm shocked at your point of view on
that one. I hope everybody out there on the Gulf
Coast beautiful Gulf of America is having a wonderful day.
Thanks for having me back. I don't know. You sound
like you got some cope. And I know a lot
of right wing conservative men who are in your situation, Kenny,
and a lot of them are coping. And this is
(04:33):
where the red pill came from. Originally, the red pill
community came out of these discussions of men sharing their notes.
You know, I've got a gay buddy, a gay guy,
and he says that if being gay were a choice,
it would be the right choice. And while that may
be funny, you and I we can't choose to be gay.
But it's hard out there for the men. It is
(04:54):
hard out there for the young men. I absolutely believe it.
Fifty set of women age eighteen to forty we're single
in twenty twenty three from forty one point eight percent,
so in the last twenty five years, an additional ten
percent of women choosing not to get marriage. College educated
single women unmet expectations is why they don't want to
(05:19):
get married. We're not meeting their expectations, because Kenny, what's
happening is it's we're still living in a time when
you know me, if the Titanic sinks, it's still women
and children first, and the men have to stay on
board the ship while the women and children get away
in the lifeboats. We still have a mentality from the
(05:41):
late eighteen hundreds that places standards and expectations on the
behavior of men while women are completely and totally liberated
from their old gender roles. Now, I don't hate women.
I love women, but we have to talk about a
society that says women are completely and totally free to
do as they please, to get as much education as
(06:01):
you want, get as many jobs as they want. But
men still have pay on the first date and provide
and be the main providers and make more than their wives.
Because here's the thing, Kenny, the statistics don't lie. If
your wife makes more than you, she's gonna cheat on you.
She's gonna leave you more often than not. It's that
doesn't happen in all cases. But if you are not
(06:21):
doing your job as a provider man, you are not
considered to be worthwhile. This is why men and Mike
Andrew Tate have been getting traction here in the United States,
because men have started to come to realize through the
red Pill, they've started these communities. They started to realize
that they're getting a raw deal, and it's not even
equality for women would be a step down in the
(06:44):
United States, Kenny. And if we can't have.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
It's true. Well, I'm not disagreeing with you. It's just
funny to hear someone explain it like that. I don't look, Austin.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
It's always everyone always assumes cause and effect. They see
something happening and they see how and what the result is,
so they assume there certainly is a correlation right between
modern day we're professional career standards.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
For women and the marriage rates being down. That's true.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
But is it possible that the actual cause and effect
is something else. Is it possible that part of the
reason why the marriage rates are down is simply because
for some people it's just fun to date, is you know,
it's convenient, it's fun. They like having a different person
they could be with every month or two. I mean,
we're all assuming that this has entirely to do with
(07:35):
income level, and I'm just not sure that our conclusion
is so accurate.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Have you asked the average college educated woman what her
opinion is on politics lately, Kenny? Have you? I mean,
if you can get past the mesmerizing effect of their beauty.
And many of them are quite stunny when they go
to college what happens to them? Right? The diverging world
views between men and women is why the gap between
(08:04):
our political views and our values, Kenny, between the values
that men hold and the women that the values that
women hold, have never been more divergent. Thirty nine percent
of women eighteen to twenty nine identified as liberal in
twenty twenty four versus twenty five percent of men. That's
a gap that's tripled since twenty fourteen. Only fifty eight
(08:25):
percent of young women see marriage is essential to the
American dream versus sixty six percent of men. Swipe left
if you voted for Trump, right, progressive women in conservative
regions actually go even harder to the left to resist
the values that you sspose and US thousand, I imagine
(08:46):
many of your listeners, especially the ten percenters, absolutely right.
The ideological divide between men and women has never been wider,
and you we didn't listen. People can have their opinions.
It's fine, it's free country rights, individual liberty. But you've
got to live with them, Kenny. You know, I had
a very prominent, very prominent celebrity one time turned to
(09:08):
me one time and of this this is the tuxedo
night dinner, and he said, whatever you do, Austin, Mary
a libertarian woman, he said, Mary, a woman who shares
your values. He's like, or your life will be hell.
Essentially I'm paraphrasing, he's like, your life will be hell.
And those women like I got the last helicopter flight
out of Saigon when I got my beautiful, redheaded libertarian
(09:29):
wifey Steffy. But you know, when she came along, I
was like, Austin, for forego all women before her, because
she They are rare as Hen's teeth, Kenny. So you
have to understand, you know, what I'm saying is true.
The values of these young women are so far left
that they would make Stalin blush.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Okay, but we're talking about a very specific group of
college educated women, you know, age twenty one to twenty
nine or thirty five and below. Generally, after women become
married in America, they don't they often leave the liberalism behind.
After women become married have a kid more often than out,
they're not like that anymore. And again totally anecdotal, right,
(10:09):
but my experience has been When I'm going out on
dates with women who tend to be very liberal, I
don't tell them what I do, Austin. It's I don't
tell them what I do for a living. On the
dating apps, I put down that I'm in advertising, which
is technically true, right, and generally I just wait, I
listen to them talk about politics. I sit it out.
Women love when you let them talk. You probably have
(10:30):
figured this out. You're married. You've noticed that anyone really
likes talking about themselves. But women love to tell you
about their opinions. They love to opine. And once they've
run out of things to say, and I've heard all
their talking points, I start to form what my response
is going to be. And then more than once I've
read pilled to them. Now, these aren't women that I
remain in relationships with. It's probably a safe bet that
(10:53):
months afterwards they end up hating me. But at least
for that brief fleeting moment and time there, I feel like,
for lack of a better explanation, you can date the
liberal out of a woman. Maybe I'm maybe I'm an optimist, Austin.
That's just been my experience.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
It can be, it can happen. But they But but
I'll tell you that on a long enough curve, they're
going to buck you. They're going to they're eventually going
to revert back to the mean. And and here's the thing.
You're taking a sniper approach to this, which I can
I can respect, I can respect. I took the Genghis
Khan approach to it, where it was like cast wide,
(11:32):
nets wide and far day, lots of people, right, and
and put yourself out there, be exactly who you are,
because Kenny, it's obvious. You know, your position of power
that's elevated from a position of the media right that
give that platform is attractive to women. You could use
that to attract women. You say you don't choose to
do that. You tell them you're an advertiser and all
(11:52):
that kind of stuff. That's fine, But the problem is
is that you have to have volume to be able
to make the decisions of about You have to know
what is a good woman and what is not a
good woman. And by the time you get to about
our age is about the time you found out what
a good woman is and what's not. I mean, I'm
sure you had heartbreak. I had my heartbreak back in
(12:12):
my days. Right, you know, you know exits that cheated
on you or whatever. Right, but you had to have
those experiences until you and build those experiences up to
where you can know what's a good woman and what's
not a good woman. Kenny, you and I, I mean,
you'd be first to say it can be hard. You
can get into relationship with someone I think you know
them and then all of a sudden things change. Right,
(12:33):
So opening yourself up completely and totally for who you are. Yes,
it's going to attract the wrong, wrong type of women,
but it's also going to track the right type of woman,
and it's your job to sift them out. So I
think the Genghis con strategy is much better than the
Zilezetive sniper strategy my opinion.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Well, to your point, I am divorced, so.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I didn't want to. I didn't want to, like some
in your eye or No.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
You're right, No, you're correct about that.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
I live alone with a French bulldog named Milton Friedman.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
So to your point, I know it's in it.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
But one of my best friends is a physical trainer
in a gym. It's a pretty good job. His wife,
on the other hand, is a lawyer, you know what
I mean? I think that though the attractive business woman
hooking up with the muscular lumberjack type.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I think that's a thing, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
You will date a waitress, you, Kenny, You will date
I did. You will date a girl who scrapes barnacles
off the bottom of a ship that's that sales to
catch gull shrimp in the Gulf of America. Will women
say the same, Kenny. They won't. As a matter of fact,
they won't say the same thing. Women will not date
(13:43):
you or consider you unless you are at least as
good as them, if not more. And even if you
are at least making as much money as them or
have as much cloud as them, they still expect you
to pay on the first date, and they still expect
you to do all the chival chivalrous things. So my
question here is, and this is really the real question,
the centrality of this debate. Sure, and it's a challenge.
I don't know if you'll be able to answert or not,
(14:04):
But how can we function right? How could we possibly
possibly return back to what you know, a situation where
men and women need each other and rely on each other.
If women are liberated from their gender roles and men
are not.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
In order for society to continue to thrive, in the
population to continue to exist. Yeah, I mean obviously world
countries obviously.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Well right, but you know funny, But here's the thing,
the question women, American women don't want those people either, right,
They barely want white men that are that are average
and make a decent way.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Are liberal women are racist?
Speaker 3 (14:42):
You're saying of extremely, absolutely, but they'll they'll pay black
men if they make enough money and play football. But
the but the uh, the thing about the here's the thing.
The only liberation from gender roles that men experience is
either being gay or being transgender. So if if liberation
from male gender roles leads to homosexuality or to transgenderism,
(15:07):
well then you're not You're still not You're out of
the dating pool. Right, So if you want a heterosexual relationship,
women are entirely liberated from their gender roles. I mean,
they're constrained by biology nature if they want to have kids.
But they don't want to have kids, they don't want
to get married. So then what does liberation for heterosexual
men look like from gender roles? Well, it looks like
(15:28):
not paying for the first date, not being the provider.
But women can't accept that, so it's a catch. Twenty two, Kenny,
We're an impasse. What do we Either we can do
two things. We can either one liberate men from their
gender roles further, which women aren't going to allow. Or
two we put women out back into the kitchen and
they make the sandwiches again, which do you think is
(15:49):
more likely to happen? Right, So you can't have it
both ways. You can't go down the men, women and
children first, Like I said, equality being a step down.
You can't have women liberated from their gender roles and
then men not, and then men still be having to
live in the by the standards of chivalry in the
late eighteen hundred.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Ten hundreds, I would agree with that. Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Option three, we legalize sex work for women, thus making
uh right, Well, well, wouldn't they.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
There're plenty of jiglos. I knew plenty of jigilows, and
they made good money.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
And I was going I was going to the other
direction on this.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I think if your average guy could just legally pay
for an escort or a prostitute or a massage therapist
or he probably wouldn't care that much about you know,
the gender shock, right, the women making more shock.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
You know, people portly, people love to portray pornography as
some like, you know, an industry of men praying on women,
and there's certainly is an aspect for that. But if
you think that women don't, like leefully participate in a
lot of these acts a lot of times, you know,
the problem is, Kenny, is that, like we still have
this concept of this victimhood mentality of women men. They're
not victims now. As a matter of fact, many of them,
(17:03):
many of them since the nineteenth Amendment, Kenny, have become
our oppressors. Do you think that it's a is this
a causation correlation fallacy that the rise of authoritarianism in
the United States has come along with temp you know
what came along with women's with women's suffrage's temperance. Yeah, yeah,
that shall touch liquor, shall not touch urts. Where do
(17:24):
you think all of the restrictions? What do you think
it all comes from? Oh? Think of the children? Do
you it's the Where do you think the tyranny is
coming from? Who's voting for it? Who do you think
is voting to put the transgenders in the in the
in the girls' sports. Do you think it's men Kenny
voting for that?
Speaker 1 (17:40):
I mean, I I assume that it's people that are
absolutely nuts from both of the two genders.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
But I will tell you this, we.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Went a little This is that I could talk about
this for hours, but we did go a little along
on this segment.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
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