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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Christopher Media. Let's make some noise from Asthma Core Studios
near Detroit, Michigan. It's the Weedsman Podcast. And now you
have smoked yourself for target. Here are the Weedsmen.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Get Welcome to the Weedsman Podcast. I'm Chris, I'm Aaron.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Welcome back. We just got this studio, h perring again.
We're gonna have to tear all this down.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Right in like six weeks.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Yeah, moving again, although I'm I'm convinced this room that
we're recording in his curse, so maybe it'll work even
better right in the new place.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, moving house, Yeah, moving out of the city, moving
like an hour.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
A lot of good moving songs, huh yeah, but they're not.
None of them are actually about moving, like moving your ship, right, They're.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
All bad company. Moving on, you know. He just he's
moving on from town to town. That's one. I think
that's one of those. I want I go from town
to town all the ladies.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yeah, the Rambling song. That's one of the best fucking
Man Show skits ever. The fu so the compilation of
songs for what is it just songs for.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Dudes retro rock and rock.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yeah, it's Ramblings. Witchy woman songs. Yeah, but I'm trying
to think like this. I know, I don't know if
you know this one, but from Swede, now the London Swede.
I guess there's some band named Swede here in the US.
But they have a song moving that always comes to mind.
(01:44):
What's the led Zeppelins? He says, moving on, But that's
not the name of the song. Isn't a m.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Ramble on?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yeah, that's the ultimate that's Lord of the Rings though,
because it's it's about the song.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah in the dark, that's mortar. I met a girl
so fair but gallum and the evil one crept up
and slipped away with her her her. Yeah. I think
that's first use of the word yeah in a pop culture.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Yeah, he does say.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Jet listen, black people, you stole one from the English people.
Robert Plant went, yeah, first.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Now that's Jay thing.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Well, why would you talk about John? We talk about
Lord of the Rings.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
I don't know what he's talking about. Half the time
he's talking about Lord of the Rings and the other
time he's talking about sex. You know, I do believe
that led Zeppelin is one of the sexiest bands in
the world.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
And I don't like you want to fuck them? Did they?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
They don't get a is it because it's out of
that time. I mean, I'm sure at the time they
would have been tops on the list of like if
you were no young girl or a guy. You know,
it was the seventies. One could slip in there.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
What called creed that's right. Yeah, well, to be fair,
Robert Plant wasn't exactly, but dude, he looked like a chick.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Yeah. Yeah. They had kind of a seventies version of androgyny.
Seventies androgyny.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah whatever. Gen Zen millennials been doing this ship for
fifty years. David Bowie, Robert Plant.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
It all comes back around again. I said to a
friend of mine, someone who I've known for many, many
years since back in my raver days, and I was
scrolling through Instagram and I came across a photo that
was at a fashion show. And it wasn't the people
on the runway. So this isn't how to couture or
(03:50):
however they say it. This isn't like, you know, stuff
that that isn't really meant to be worn out. It's
just runway pieces. This was the audience. I sent a
picture to her. I was like, this is current like
this weekend. These people were photographed at a fashion show
and they all look like ravers like tho, dude's got
(04:11):
a fat pants and the girl's got some like.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Like look straight out in nineteen ninety.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Eight, tight black and white, asymmetrical like Kitschy futuristic.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
By the way, we're officially in the doom loving top
with YouTube in my my ipids colors. By the way, kids,
there you go. If you want to know what it
takes how long it takes for an iPad to be
rendered useless by Apple when it still functions?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Is it one step away from a brick in the
man years?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Like this is a twenty twelve iPad and yeah, YouTube
just keeps telling me an update it needs to update,
and then it won't update. Yeah yeah, so yeah Apple products.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Kids, No, there are ways around it, like you can
just tell it. You can even keep a version that's compassive.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
This is an iPad that still has a number.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Put it that way. This is a four. This is
the last one they numbered. Is your uh you're lightening
to No, but it was not gonna make YouTube work
on the phone got in my USB C Yeah, it
said the new phone. Who that's my us new phone.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
I don't know this, Jack, Yeah, your phone's late Wronghold wrong.
Hold give me some juice on Channels three and four.
There music today.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I just don't get it. Hey, I'm Adam Corolla. You
know in my day we.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
See the picture from lately. He looks so young in
there compared how he looks now ours. So I have
not train into an old Jewish guy, the big glasses
and every.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
You're not going to find these lossure he's got. He's
got big glad find him here. Pure is he doing
with this side.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Show. It's still going strong, still having on people, people
you've heard of.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Yeah, it doesn't seem like it's running out of gas
or anything.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
You know. I just got a new partner. Like what
guy does m m A. He's like it sounds like
he's a Meatheadho's trying to learn stuff by working with Adam.
But they also have another podcast together and we're talking
over the.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Hard loving women.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Part of the Guy Tobe with this is all the
song title scrolling by.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Yeah, that's true, it's this is my favorite. Yeah, goodbye woman.
It's a rambling thing. That's one of the songs song
(07:06):
titles that go buy is in brackets. I just got
the rock and then it's ramble on the rock their scale.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Sure retro rock if you're on the logo price of
Nuteen not niver CD told my never exists.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
What are now pure retro rock and rock? Because life's
too short? Screen motorcycle at the end. Yeah, so you're
gonna be You're gonna be rambling. You're gonna be rambling
on the on down the road about.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
An hour down the road. Yeah, moving to the country,
so you're gonna get it. Not eating a lot of peaches.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
You're gonna Oh yeah. The President's president.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yes, presidents of the United States of America, the Potus.
I think they like that name.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Now, I don't think they exist anymore.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I think they do. My girlfriend lives like two hours away.
We're meeting in the middle. It's gonna be interesting living
an our way from where I work and everything else.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Is Uh wasn't that Liz Lemon.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Benjamin Button, We're not meeting in the middle.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
No, not the age. No.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Doesn't she have a meet up with somebody that they
have like a rendezvous that's halfway in between?
Speaker 1 (08:22):
No?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
That was no, that was Jack doneghe and uh, Yes,
they met it.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Oh and because she was a Democrat, it was metaphorical.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah. Yeah, Well she was in d C. Yeah, he
was in New York.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
So they met in the middle.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Which was in Pennsylvania. See what they did there.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Yeah, So you're going to get a new area code, not.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Really a new area but yeah I'm moving.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
You will be in a new area code.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
But we take our area codes with us now, it's true. Yeah,
Detroit's getting a new area code.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I bet you.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
There's a lot of people up in arms.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Is that three three going away?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
No? Three on and three doesn't go away? But well it
they have to introduce a new area code for new numbers.
And Franklin the suburbs, Well this is another This is
another area where I blame the drug dealers eating up
all the three one three phone numbers with their burner phones.
(09:22):
That's what's going on. There's so many. But anyway, not
not that every burner is a bought by a drug
drug dealer. I've been in situations in my life where
I've had to buy a burner phone.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Scofflaw.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Divorce can be a bit gotcha. Yeah, I had a
I had a flip phone that I used for a while,
like after I owned a BlackBerry.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah, I want to flip phone the iPhone, like I
made the jump quick.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
I had about every kind of mobile phone that there was,
or the like backpack ones. My dad did have a
backpack my.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Dad bag phone that's plugged into the cigarette lighter.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I don't know. I think it was just like a
business fat at the time, and I don't know that
he ever used it, but he did have to. It
made sense for him to have it, But I think
maybe I just never saw it again.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Never had Zach Morris phone.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
He had a part of his job was going to
job sites and quoting their steel use so he could
bid on a job. So he'd have to go to
the site and look at Okay, here's how much steal
they're planning on using and blady blah.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
So that would make more like there's not going to
be a phone on a construction site that you can
just grab real quick. But the six what is it?
Six seven nine? Well that rolls off the tongue. You're
going from three to one three? Hey, yo, man, people
in three one three are from the six seven nine.
Be mad, you're you don't want to fuck with us?
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Your angers thirty year delayed.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
The rest of us had our three one threes yanked
decades ago.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
You know what zip code? You know zip code, you
know what area code you're in?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Buddy, I was telling somebody you're in the other day
seven nine, which, by the way, the other that means
don't fuck around. I was telling this to a young
person the other day, which, by the way, Boy, did
I get.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Smacked in the face the other day?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, because talking to this kid that works figuratively, yes,
because I call him a kid. He's twenty eight, and
I'm like, wait a minute, you were born in nineteen
ninety seven, weren't you.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Yup, I'm like, fucker, that's the year I graduated in
high school.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
That was just a kick to the nuts, Like, god damn,
this kid's gonna be thirty two years But yeah, forgot where?
Oh I was explained, I say, I was explaining to
him when I was little, like we had we got
Arie Co Benz in the nineties because I was it
was three one three, like the phone number I was
taught to memorize, and I was a little kid, started
with three and three, and then in the early nineties
(11:43):
they gave us eight one oh, and then after like
two or three years, all of a sudden eight went oh.
They went nope, we're carving up eight one oh, and
now we're giving you five eight six six.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Well, I mean there was two four eight was before then?
Speaker 4 (11:56):
No, two four eight is what?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Because one came after two? No eight one oh? Was?
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
People five eight six and two four eight came from
eight one to oh because they carved up eight one
oh for two four eight and five eight six.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Well, what this also means is this hot uh area
code talk here is that people who live in the
area code of three to one three and want to
call somebody else in the area code of three and three,
they will have to dial ten digits. They will have
to dial.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Come to how the rest of you wants have had
to call three one three for the last thirty years.
This makes own companies don't charge for long distance anymore
unless it's international. You'll be okay.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I'm guessing the people mad about this would be over
ninety because otherwise, I mean, the area code is just
in the phone.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Well, there's a news story I saw today and I
can tell you he was mad about it. But I
don't want to sound racist. It's a lot because they're blacks.
A lot of a three to one three die hards
that tie, right, it's mostly it's it's a lot of
silly people who tie their area code to their fucking identity.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Yeah, well, I mean, dude, there's plenty of white people
who do that too.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I'm not out there screaming five eight six till I die.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
No, But I mean there's plenty of white people who
claim the three one three.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
And they're they're not those white people like, no, you're like,
you're clearly two four eight looking at how you dress.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
If you're three one three you live in gross Point.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
I know I know people very well, friends of mine,
who I would not want to be smirched. But so
I'll just let them go nameless that came from the suburbs,
lived in the city for a while, got a phone
while they were there, and then took that three to
one three number. And now'll live out of state and
you will have to pry that three to one three
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number from their cold dead hands.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
My cold dead Michigan hands. They'll be in mittens.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
So I don't know, like that's what twenty five thirty
percent more dialing, uh might be nothing to sneeze at.
If you already got the carpel tunnel fingers are already
going crooked.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Or I program it into your phone once and like
everybody's acting like they actually dial a number. I couldn't
tell you my girlfriend's number if.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Saying with the yeah, it's only going to be old people.
They don't have a cell phone.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Buddy, I've known you for for what over ten years?
Gone to my head, I could not tell you your
phone number? All airs, yes, exactly who still dials their phone?
Speaker 3 (14:30):
I mean like dialing when you.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Got a rotary, sheelp, people out there roll with the
rotaries you got to.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
That is when, like some of a lot of the
phone lingo is starting to change because of the way
that we use it, and it's combined with so many
other things. It's less about you.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Remember your children were mystified that the phone was attached
to the wall. It blew your kid's mind.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
But dialing seems to still persevere, even though it's like
directly it's telling you like, no, it's a dial right,
Like yeah, I know, the dial it's round. It goes
around in a circle, pushing dial right, dial.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Push these numbers.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
But I mean even having just the push button or
touch tone telephone. What what does touch tone exactly mean?
Speaker 4 (15:16):
I guess it just means that the right down the line.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
And dial, all right. So the dial is a mechanical thing,
and depending on where you stop it and let it
turn back, it's going to set off a certain number
of pulses, and that number of pulses is going to
tell the exchange computer what number has just been quote
unquote dialed. So the touch tone just means that you
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push a button and it makes that series of pulses.
And but you can mimic, so you can't do that anymore, right,
because the exchanges aren't the same. But whenever you could,
there is ways to get free call. People would have,
you know, a series of pulses recorded on a little
handheld recorder and you could just hold it up to
the receiver on a payphone. And because there is when
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you drop a quarter into a payphone, it sends a
certain number of pulses in an order to the exchange
to let them know, hey, open this line for a call.
So that's what they would do. They would just send
the pulses that the quarter would send, but directly over
the audio line.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
There's any payphones still left, but.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
You can find some in Detroit that is, like, I mean,
I don't know what's left of them. There are payphones
with like no receivers.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
No, I'm not functioning function phones.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
There's got to be functioning payphones out there.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
O ooh, the government will give you a free cell
phone at least in this country.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Gas stations in the middle of bf E.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Again the government. I guess what I'm getting at is
poor people have cell phones. Who are these payphones for?
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Yeah, but if you're out in the fucking desert, like
there's not cell service everywhere.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Well, they're not gonna be a fucking payphone either.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Think if you're it out in the middle of a desert.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
But I mean, if you're at it, you might be
at there's places where you could be at a gas
station that has a telephone but doesn't have good cell service, so.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
The phone lines go there, but the cell phones don't.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Yeah, totally, absolutely.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Maybe.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Well, I mean remember how many like when we first
started getting cell phones, you got service in the cities.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Oh yeah, because it's where the towers were.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
I couldn't get service in my own fucking home and
I lived in Ferndale at the time. I go inside
my house, I couldn't get service. I go outside the house,
travel just about anyway. But yeah, you get out like
twenty minutes outside the cities and you just it's just dead.
Speaking of a rambling man, Neil Young he likes to
get out there and tour.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Oh boy, he actually so.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
He made an announcement this week that he is ending
the what does uh ticketmaster call it for their like premium,
it's like platinum something or other. It's just platinum ticket
I think just buy tickets. Yeah, so they're platinum ticketing,
which I don't know if that's exclusively. Just like the
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premium seats, it's the good seeds have always costed costed good.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
That's how concert tickets worked, right.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
The good seeds have always cost more, but now they
just what the ticketmaster has done is labeled the good
seats platinum and made them exponentially more expensive than the
regular seats.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Used to be.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Like you're on the lawn, it's twenty bucks. You want
to be in a seat that's going to be thirty five.
You want to be in the front row that's fifty, right,
or the first ten Yeah, the first ten rows, you're
like fifty bucks. And granted, you know that's generalizing, and
those are the prices at the time, and I know
that obviously it would go up, but it's not that
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same tiered pricing anymore.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Oh no, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
It's like if you went, like, I'm.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Still embarrassed to say what I spent on Metallica tickets most.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Fast food places, and I set in the lower board.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I set that was nowhere near the main floor.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
They're getting to the medium, right, because it just doesn't
make any fucking sense. People either want us a little
bit of soda, they want all the soda right, and
the pricing tends to go so that it's like you
might as well just get the large, you know, because
it's usually the difference is like fifty to sixty cents.
This would be like if you went to McDonald's and
they had a small and a large, and the small
was a dollar twenty five and the large was ten dollars.
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That's the different Like, well, we can sit, we can
have pay normal seats and be way back and see
the screen, see the artist on the screen, or we
can actually get close enough to see the artist and
have to take out another mortgage three thousand dollars per seats.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Indoor golf range. I go to the way they sell
their buckets. You can get a small bucket, which is
fifty balls for fourteen to fifty, or you can get
a large bucket, which is one hundred balls for sixteen
to fifty. What are you gonna?
Speaker 3 (19:52):
What do you get?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Exactly right? Oh, two dollars? Want to get double?
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Duh?
Speaker 3 (19:55):
The upsell is right there, yeah, price, And that's what
I mean. Those those deals always get me too. I
consider myself a deal shopper. But fourteen fifty, you can
how much you'd save if you just took two of
them home, And I'm like, wow, I.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Cannol for that. But in that other case, it's like
I'm already, I'm already, I'm already fourteen fifty pot committed
at least, right, might as well just now go to
sixteen fifteen and get double.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Like these pre rolls that I got twenty dollars for
the equivalent of an eight, But it's also they're infused,
they're rolled and Keith and all that shit. It's like
weile worth it. So I go in ask for one
of these for twenty dollars at like they're three for forty. Okay,
I ain't quitting tomorrow, so.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Let's tell a mean, right, I mean, I get it,
like I'm going to buy them anyway.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Yeah, for stuff like that, not like a TV. I'm like, wait,
I get fifty percent off of buy two TVs?
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Okay, No if this country does it to me all
the time talking about the other well, hey, what you're
buying are five for seventy five? I'm like, well, I'm
here with forty dollars, so I'm just buying what I'm buying. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
So another thing that I mean not illegal, and it's
not a moral per se. It's just business practice. But
I think it's bad business practice. So they rolled this
platinum ticketing stuff out in the cities where they have
the most scalpers, so they're not even it doesn't even
seem to be part of the plan to offer this
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platinum package to the people who can't afford it. This is,
let's gouge the scalpers. And that's how you get five
thousand dollars for a Taylor Swift ticket because it was
probably platinum pricing all in was like a grand or
twelve hundred dollars, but that was bought by a scalper
who's now going to get four or five times that.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Well, now they've made scalping legal with the secondary market though, Yeah,
exactly what. Let me guess Neil Young's not going to
do it anymore until it doesn't make any money, and
then he'll quietly start doing it again.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
No, he's he's going on tour. And he said, oh,
that's a quote from Robert Smith, so he actually it's
Robert Smith for being the one that not directly, but
he I think he read an article because Robert Smith
was very vocal about their tour and how they're not
going to I don't know if they were able to
do it without working with Ticketmaster at all, but they
(22:14):
were able to do it without having the extreme jump
in ticket prices.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
That's what that's not saying last week about Bill Burr, right, like,
put your money where your mouth is. You're big enough
to do it without him. Tell him the fuck off.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Yeah, well, I mean like kind of different. Like Bill
Burr could like go just about any city and he
might not get the venue that he would want, but
he could play at any venue. I mean, he could
find a venue in any city work.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Look at Louis the K's receipts from like twenty fourteen.
It works.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
I mean with with the act. If you want to
tour and you're the cure, you're not going to do
five fucking nights in Detroit at Saint Andrews so that
everybody can see your show. You're gonna come and do
one night and you're gonna at everybody there, and it's
going to be in a fucking arena. You don't have.
Who else are you gonna deal with? You've got to
deal with Ticketmaster at some point, or Live Nation or
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you know, these companies that have the lockdown on all
these huge venues. I mean, that's why Radio had just
flat out didn't tour the US forever. And even when
they did, it was like special, you know, a festival
where they could play out in the middle of a
fucking field and it didn't have to be run by
Ticketmaster Live Nation.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
But to be fair, like these are bands that are
comfortable enough they can do this. Like if you're a
young band trying to make it like you gotta be you,
you unfortunately got to be in that machine.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Well you don't. I think I think if you're in
a middle ground, if you're on your way up and
you're getting starting to get bigger venues. I mean, when
you're when you're starting out, you can play wherever the fuck.
You're not dealing with Ticketmaster. You're dealing with whatever venue
you're dealing with. But at a certain point in your growth,
you're gonna bump up against Ticketmaster. You're gonna have to,
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and it's not going to be at the arena level.
It's going to be a you know, oh, you're you're
big enough to fucking sell out.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
St Andrews Hall. Throw that one again, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Saint Andrew's Hall, it's fairly big. I'm sure they still
go through Ticketmaster. I don't know. I mean, I like,
I like seeing live music. I want to see more
of it, and I just keep bumping up against stuff
that is like this is just fucking out of my
price range, and not that not for affordability, for enjoyment, right,
it cannot for seventy five to one hundred dollars. There's
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got to be something else that elevates that experience other
than like, okay, it's two hours in this show, the
band's still really good with my back kind of hurts, right,
you know, and I'm bitter over the fact that this
doesn't feel like it was.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Worth I wish I spent seventy five to one hundred
dollars on Metallica ticket. Yeah, if I kin I would
have been in like the nosebleeds.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
I got Awtecher is doing their first North American tour
and over a decade the first time that I've had
a chance to see them playing Detroit since the nineties,
I believe, I don't know they've been back so oh no,
they were at the depth the Electronic Music Festival, like
the second or third one, so that would have been
two like early two thousand. So yeah, it's been probably
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twenty years since they played Detroit. And their live shows
are just a totally different things. They don't it's not
like they do their songs live, right. They do their
songs that go on their albums and that is the music,
and then their live shows are just fucking jams that
are crazy and go all over the place. And they've
(25:31):
released a lot of them, so I've heard them, but
I want to experience that live. So anyway, I was
prepared to like that was a show where I was
like well, if this ticket's going to be one hundred dollars,
it's going to be one hundred dollars. I'm not that
was any amount of money.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
That was the attitude I had for Paul McCartney when
I had a chance to give Pol McCarten tickets. I'm like, dude,
this is a beatle right, I'm going yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Like and all Attacker aren't that old, but who knows
how much longer they're going to be doing this electronic
music and especially touring on this vast of a scale. Yeah,
I was actually pleased to find that tickets are thirty
five dollars. Their Detroit venue is set up by packs Out,
which is they go back many many, like more than
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twenty years now. I believe in the Detroit party scene,
and they're used to you know, they get a lot
of like international acts and throw the big parties, especially
around the festival. I don't know if they're directly involved
with the festival, but they're like the big layer in
the in the Detroit market for those types of for
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those types of techno parties. And yeah, they said that
they were gonna I don't know if this was a
request from Autecher, if they decided, but they just said
that the pricing would be capped at thirty five dollars. Wow,
because that I mean it sold out. I was. I
got on their mailing list and got access to artist
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pre sale, and the artist presale sold out in like.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
A half hour.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
But I was able to grab a couple of tickets
from that. But anyway, I'm rambling, this is am I'm rambling.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
On the next town. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
So, and it's not in a it's at the Russell
Industrial Center, which is it's much different than back in
the day. Yeah, and they throw a lot of big
events over there, all kinds of different crazy shit goes
down that building always has. But it's not a traditional venue.
It's not a ticket Master venue. It's not They don't
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have to deal with Live Nation. There's no no one
really bigger than Paxow that they have to deal with
to organize this show. So, I mean, there are ways
to do it, but I like, on a level, like
the Cure, I think you gotta whip out your dick
and just be like they can. They can, but I
think but you have to if you're it, because there's
no other there's no other way. Like I think autechre
(27:55):
is about your limit for the type of crowd that
you expect to draw to be able to do this
still quote unquote somewhat independently.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
I think Robert Smith does his pubes in a crazy
way too. He teases them, it's got lipstick on it.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
I think they. I think his pubes just are out
of control naturally, and that was the inspiration. Looking down
his hair.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
His hair is a tribute to cubes.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
He's like, I can't do anything with this hair. It's
just awful. I look like Hitler when I calmb it down.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Day pubes.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
He's like, why can't be naturally full of life and
vigorous like you pubes.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
I got it.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
I'm gonna have pube hair. I'm gonna need the largest
kind of aqua nut.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Let's go to Sephora.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Smith says about it. We didn't allow dynamic pricing because
it's a scam that would disappear if every artist said
I don't want that. But most artists hide behind management.
Oh we didn't know, they say. They all know. If
they say they do not, they're either fucking stick, upid
or lying. It's just driven by greed. Guaranteed that these
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artists know how much people are paying for their tickets, right,
they know?
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Yeah, at some point it's a business. Yeah, And he's right,
unless you're stupid or want to be clueless, you're going
to pay attention.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
I think that. I'm sure there are some of them,
some artists out there that are upfront about it too,
and like, goddamn right, I charge a ship ton because
what else I'm going to do? Sell a record or
I'm going to sell two thousand LPs and then eat.
I'm going to sell fifteen hundred CDs and then pay
my mortgage. The Tracy Morgan pukin I heard. I have
(29:36):
not at the next game.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
I've heard all about there. Actually I've seen all the stuff,
but what happened, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
All of the He says it was food poisoning and
he went to the hospital. There's a picture that he
posted on social media from the hospital. Says he's doing
fine now, but he, I guess had some nasty food poisoning.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
So it wasn't like it was not like twenty ninth
draft beer footage.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
And I don't not like there's no reports of him
like acting weird or anything like that. The shirt was on, Yeah,
he wasn't playing his belly like a drum, which, by
the way.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
I read that Tracy Jordan was supposed to be a
parody of him on how he acted on Saturday Night Live. Right.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Yeah, the footage that I saw was just him. He's
sitting courtside and he's got his head down. It doesn't
look so good, and he just pukes kind of like
a baby does where they just open their mouth and
then they're just like the like he just like, it's
not a he doesn't like heave. He doesn't like try
and go anywhere like oh, I got it run. He's
(30:40):
just like, oh, this is gonna happen, and pukes all
over the court. He has held the game up on Tracy,
I'm doing okay now, and the doctor say it was
food poisoning. Appreciate my MST family for taking such good
care of me. And I need to shout out the
crew that had to clean that up.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Appreciate you, my bad boy, he says, which, by the way,
I saw Black Jeopardy the fifteenth that was so that
was hilarious.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Really good. A lot of people mad at Hank's on
that one. He also says, more importantly, the Knicks are
one and on now when I throw up on the court,
so maybe I'll have to break it out to get playoffs.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
Which I don't know why Hank Scott shipped for that, because.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
He was portraying a mega dude who was you know
it was, which.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
He's supposed to.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Hold on, I'll show you something.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
He portrays a man who is ignorant, but he's not
an asshole about it, right, He's just ignorant.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
And people were mad at his depiction of.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
But he's got a red hat and he's got a
flannel shirt.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
And we're gonna play a game here. Let's see. I
gotta go back to my washing Washington, Dallas. Oh I
fuck it hurt wait? Hold on, oh I deleted it. Dude.
There was a guy that was on Fox News that
looked just like Tom Hanks's character. I was like, why
people had his depiction he looks just like.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
This guy, because that's why, because he looks just like him,
and the people understood who he was lampooning, the American
ignorant hicck. He portrayed an American ignorant hick. You know
who were offended, the American ignorant hick. Because I thought
it was fun culturally inapproached people, that's my culture that he's.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
His hand and he went whoa, whoa, and he's like no, no,
people had beef with him doing that. I thought that
was funny.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Yeah, well you thought I met people like that.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Yeah, exactly there. I'm sure there are a lot of
people with fucking maga hats and flannel shirts. They were
watching that and maybe they aren't racist, and they're like
that ain't me. I ain't racist. Okay, that ain't you. Then,
but nobody in this fucking country can't argue that that
person doesn't exist.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Also, can we just all can we go back to
having a sense of humor about ourselves? Yeah? Not everyone
who whereas a mega hat is racist? Like stop acting
like that's the thing. Like there's only a sense of
humor about ourselves.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
There's only two people left in the whole country that
are allowed to make.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Race like, it's not everybody on the left has like
pink hair and wants you to call them them and like, yeah, like.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
It's there's two people.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
It's comedy.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
The host of Weekend Update, Jay and Jost. They're the
only two people left in America that are allowed to
do any kind of racist humor.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
I love when they were right the racist jokes for
each other.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
It's the only way, like racist jokes have to be
told in an environment where you have somebody of that
race that you can immediately look to and they nod
and say that one was okay.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Oh there's a comedy sketch in there. Yeah, that's a
black person follows you around and nods, yeah, it's okay.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
It gives you the creaky hand on one that's borderline
but really funny, but borderline.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
I saw Neil Brennan clip the day he was like,
the problem is you're never liberal enough. He's a case
of point. He's like, you have to conservative people and go,
hey I'm conservative. You go, hey, how you doing. You know,
they welcome you in. He's like, you go up to
a bunch of liberal people, go hey, I'm liberal. They
go we'll see.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Yeah. They pull out the litmus paper and they're like, yeah,
let's do a little dip test and we'll find out
just how liberal you are. And also, don't call this liberal.
Yeah Allapaluza announced their lineup. This is a far cry
from back in the day.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Oh boys, means it's going to be not great.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
But it's not not great. I just don't know that
it reflects like what Lolla Pluza was supposed to be about.
But Sabrina Carpenter, okay, and we're done ASoP.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Rocky, They're in ace, They're in make money mode.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Olivia Rodrigo, Luke Colms the K pop group twice.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
This is all about money now, this is not about
exposing new artists.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
High the creator who I like, but it is not
like an artist who needs experience.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Everybody you've named is multi platinum artists.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Corn. I mean like the original Lollapaloos was like they
would headline with acts that could have sold out the
stadium on their own, somebody like at the time, Smashing Pumpkins,
Sound Garden, Rage Against the Machine. These are bands that
if they came and played the Pine Knob here they
people they could fill it up. So that was the draw.
(35:30):
And then you book acts like Lush who like you know,
ten percent of that crowd might know. And then but
you might gain some fans. I'm sure they did. I'm
sure like Lush, even a band like Susie in the
band Cheese, who had been around forever, gained fans Lollapalooza.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
It was more about the bands that weren't the main
stage bands.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Tool. I don't know if they would have blown up
as fast as they did, they might still just be
a weird cult band if it wasn't for La Paloza.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Which, by the way, do you hear the Tools and
some little bit of shit.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Oh what now? Tool or Maynard Tool the band Tool.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
They put on they had their little desert festival or
whatever a couple of weeks ago. They played the same
set both nights.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Was it was it an anniversary? No, it was that
we're gonna play undertow And it's.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
No they put together it's they've put together anemia. They
got into the music festival business and put together their
own music festival, right, and they played the same set
both nights. People were pissed. There's actually a class action
lawsuit being put together against them right.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Now because it's it's not like, uh, it's not like
they booked two nights because like like Metallica, right played
two nights here in Detroit, But.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Their stick on that tour is no repeat, like you're
gonna see a different right.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
They specifically didn't do that, but they they could have right.
They could have played the same show and people would
have just got a ticket for one night or the other.
But a festival, you're there.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Yeah, yeah, it was like a two day thing, like
people camped and shit.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Yeah, and I can imagine that. I mean imagine. Tools
are great live. I've seen them live. They are a
great band to see live. I think they're better live
than they are on their albums. I think if I think,
if you're at all the Tool fan, you need to
see them live at least once. They're just fantastic and
amazingly tight. But I can like imagine just being blown
(37:26):
away by a set from Tool, knowing that they're gonna
play again tomorrow, Like whoa what are they gonna do
for the Saturday night? Like, man, that Friday night show
is so wild. They're gonna pull all the stops and
you just have Oh, they're gonna open them the same song.
That's an interesting choice. Okay song too, I'm gonna go
grab a burger. Yeah, Like what the fuck?
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (37:48):
I can totally see being pissed.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
You've been around for thirty fucking years and you're gonna
play the same set two nights in a row. What
the fuck? I'd be. I'm pissed right now. I don't
even go to be fair. I been out on them
since like the mid two thousands anyway. I was a
huge tool fit.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
So what was I I mean? But I just know
every song I'm not still.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Have to be fifteen minutes like that.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Yeah, there's some great ideas in there.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Let's edit. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
So here's some weird science for you before we cut
out of here. Have you ever heard of the term
micro lightning?
Speaker 2 (38:24):
This is I mean, I was gonna say it sounds
like a good nickname for my penis, but it doesn't.
Sounds like a terrible nickname for my penis.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
You know, just say it. It's only micro compared to
the real thing. That's how I tell you.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Goes, look, hey give it, give me a second, it'll
be macro lightning.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
When they find out I call it little Elvis, they're
like little Han. I'm like, only compared to the real thing?
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Is die in the toilet?
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Yeah? Uh, I guess in the fifties, Elvis is time
nineteen fifty two. There is a hypothesis that they tested
and were able to confirm. And what they're trying to
do is figure out where life comes from. How do
(39:13):
you get a planet fucking full of rocks and water
and gases and all these elements and it's like that,
it's like a missing link.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
I think my answer chemistry, Yes.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
That is the answer. But how what chemistry can create light?
Speaker 2 (39:34):
I mean, I know, just if you leave organic matter
and water, life's going to show up at some point.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Yeah, but it comes from somewhere, right, It's not generated,
it's not the spontaneous creation. It's traveling from somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
True.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
So there's a theory that they were able to test.
They basically took like a lot of the gases that
were in the early stages of Earth's development and mix
it in with in some water, so some methane, some ammonia,
some hydrogen. They infuse some water with it, and then
(40:15):
they applied an electrical current.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
So like when Frankenstein like had the lightning hit the thing.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
So they're trying to make components like uracil, which is
in DNA and RNA, and glycine, which is in amino
acids or is it an amino acid they make? Yeah,
it does that. They make up enzymes, proteins, nucleic acids,
all the things that are the building blocks of living organisms.
(40:48):
They were apparently able to create this uh just like
like I said, you know these early gases and mix
it in water and apply some electrical current and that's
the chemistry. But it was kind of tossed out because
there would have to be so much electrical activity and it.
(41:09):
You know, they were theorizing like maybe lightning strike in
the water and that's what sparks it. But you kind
of I think what they found is it needs to
be more of a sustained environment. It's not like zap
and they're you know, some some cells are born.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Conditions probably have to be right.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Right, so but the yeah, and the conditions can't be
like as instantaneous as a lightning strike, but it is
still part of that. And hey, doctor Frankenstein was right, huh,
like that was the misty ingredient to zap it with
some electricity. So what they found now is that they're
going back to this theory and looking at it again
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as a possibility for where life started that spark. And
that's where the term micro lightning comes in because what
they found is that water, like everything everything has a
bit of a charge to it. And what happens with
(42:13):
big bodies of water. You have waves crashing up on
the shores and everything, and water is spraying all over
the place, and there's lots of droplets, and they've discovered
that depending on the size of the droplet, it will
have a different charge to it. A very small droplet
(42:33):
will have a negative charge, where a larger droplet will
have a positive charge to it, and that causes an interaction.
And so there's lots of little invisible transfers of energy
of electricity happening, the stage of electrons that are happening
(42:55):
as these waves crash up on the shore over and
over again. So that's more of a sustained environment where
you have might have all the gases there, you have
the water there, and you have this constant electric electrical
activity that could produce these compounds that eventually you know.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
To water giver of life.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
Literally, yeah, I mean it all, it all kind of
makes sense.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
So the secret of life is in water.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
It's in the water. But it's in water, I mean,
like what like we're made up of water and electricity
and these like I mean, I don't know, kind of crazy,
maybe it's all bullshit, but it's one of those science
things where you're like it sounds wild. At first, you're, Okay,
(43:48):
there's micro lightning and that's what made but when you
explain it, like, yeah, actually it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
It was like the.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
I was reading about how well some scientists think that
we might be inside of a black hole. Again, sounds wild,
But the more I think about it, the more it
actually makes sense. Is what we found with our expanding
ability to visually and sensorially explore the universe with the
(44:22):
different instruments and telescopes, is that almost all the galaxies
are spinning in the same direction. And we used to
think that this was just because of our perspective of
where we're seated and we can kind of see the galaxy,
the Milky Way galaxy spin around us in a certain way.
But yeah, the more the more we explore other galaxies,
(44:44):
we're finding, Wow, more often than not, they're all spinning
in the same direction. So hmm, I don't. I mean,
and there's there's more science to it beyond that, but like,
what if we are in a black hole?
Speaker 2 (45:00):
And what if? So what right? Like we're we're just
like yeah, so.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
What no exactly, But I used to believe in and
I still kind of do like the the expanding and
contracting universe. The Big Bang happens, but that's just one
part in a continuous cycle. That's just you know, the
natier of this cycle. And then the other side of
(45:25):
it is it expands so much that it can't contain itself,
and then it collapses again, and then it collapses so
much that it can't contain itself, and it blows up
and expands again. Well, what if it's just a series
of like a series of expanding black holes. Right, It's
almost like a if you took like a Russian nesting doll,
(45:46):
but it just kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger.
There was constantly like new dolls being born inside of
it as it expands. So you know, maybe this is
just one version, one layer of this universal onion. And
eventually one of the black holes that are currently in
(46:08):
the universe is going to gain so much mass that
it's going to expand enough to just pop into the
New York and that's how the new Universe will be born.
Speaker 4 (46:20):
Right, I am, I am to the end of the show.
I am too high for this conversation.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
And you know, everything else that's in the years would
just kind of be like, I mean, at that point,
the universe will expand at at a fast enough rate
that we will just be stretched out. I mean I'm
talking like billions of years in the future. Like if
if we were able to live that long. It's not
that we couldn't live, but like literally we would be
(46:45):
like stretched. Everything would be stretched out in that future universe.
But yeah, it's just an idea. Wow, I didn't say
that any of that shit. The second part in this
paper that I was reading about that was just my
own conjecture of like, yeah, what if it's just an
endless cycle of the black holes all the way down?
Speaker 2 (47:07):
I feel like, as a weed podcast, this is where
you like drop the mic the go stoners, because we
don't feel about that.
Speaker 3 (47:13):
We don't We know that information goes into a black hole,
but we don't know what happens beyond that because nothing
because nothing can escape a black hole, not even light.
There's no way to get any information out of it,
you know, observation, there's no sound, no light, So there's
no way for us currently to know. If we sent
(47:34):
a probe in, it wouldn't be able to commutate. So
there's lots of things that we're assuming, like because of
the extreme conditions that must have must be going on
in a black hole, we assume that everything that goes
in there gets what they call spaghettified, So you get
stretched out to the point where you just kind of
(47:55):
disintegrate into your you know, not even just particles, just information, nothingness.
Speaker 4 (48:03):
But so she just made my brain feel like it.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
But that's just where our ability to measure and conceptualize
breaks down. We don't know what happens beyond there. It
could be that whatever goes into it is preserved. Maybe
it's there's some people that believe that whatever goes into
a black hole is just frozen in time. You know,
(48:30):
like if we were slipping into a black hole at
that moment, we would just I mean, it would feel
like we would cease to exist, not like frozen time,
Like we're just frozen and like we can look at
each other like we're starting this room for the yeah,
but literally just like everything stops and we're just frozen
in that moment. We don't know. Maybe everything is rebuilt
(48:52):
or maybe it maybe it saves all that all this
information it's going to use to like build its own
universe inside. Think about that and it'll have black jack
and hooks better than this one.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
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Speaker 3 (49:26):
It's a that's our real brain twister, isn't it.
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