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On this week's show Chris and Aaron talk about: messy pets, Everybody’s Live with John Mulaney, Dana Gould, streamers, The Studio, Xfinity, greatest TV spinoffs, recycling of disposable vape batteries, Stiiizy under investigation, and Bill Burr confronts media. Please follow us on Twitter @TheWeedsmen420, Instagram @TheWeedsmenPotcast, and on Facebook at Facebook.com/TheWeedsmenPotcast/ Download the rest of our shows at ChristopherMedia.net
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Christopher Media. Let's make some noise from Asthma CORR Studios
near Detroit, Michigan. It's the Weedsman Podcast. And now you
have smoked yourself retard. You're the Weedsmen.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Get hut.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Welcome to the Weedsman Podcast. I'm Chris, I'm Aaron. We're
back again. Of course I have to right.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
I also just burke, did you you're just you're just
better at hiding it.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
We're both open with a burn, no bullshitting. We missed
last week for a cat.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Illness likely excuse.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
My cat was sick. Well she was. She was recovering
by then, she had had her visit and all her medicine.
She was, but she was still she was still not
she was she was still in first gear.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
You were she was, uh, you were too observe her.
Probably take her home, keep an eye on her.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
Basic looked like she exploded all over my bedroom like
the previous Sunday, Like oh, just everything and just vomit,
oh just bile. Just at least I cleaned at least
a dozen spots between the stairs and in my room.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
It wasn't just like a hairball stuck in there or
something that was one of the theories that happens.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
But yeah, but no, but then too, she was like
lethargic and stuff, and.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
I can't like to lay all over my couch. But
then when they want to puke up a hairball, they
make sure to do it in my spot. I had
her train every single time.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
What sucks is I had her trained at the old
house to go in the basement. She would go. So
she started going. I'd be like going and she would
just run to do an the basement. Here. I try,
it didn't work. She's and she's got to do them all. No,
it's just it was just chased her towards the basement
and then but here's of course they all have to

(01:59):
be on the car the whole bottom level, you know,
vinyl linoleum tile. But she got to do it all
upstairs on the light carpet.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, I'm lucky that I have. I have all tile
and hardwood floor is in place. I'm renting right now.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Well the new owners are getting new carpet anyway, So
but I still cleaned it because it was bad.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
My cats aren't really messy. But the dog that I've
kind of adopted that stays with me off and on
has uht a dog couch. Yeah, that dog likes to
That dog is probably pooping on my kitchen floor as.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Right now, that dog is shitting on something I own, well.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
That I rent.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
You don't know, could be pooping on a T shirt.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
It's fairly good.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
She did.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
She has. She did once like like purposely peede on
one of my jacket.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Oh that was a message, yeah, sending a message.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
She was like looking at me.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
What was she mad about?

Speaker 2 (03:03):
I don't think she was mad. I think she just
loved me, actually, and that was her way of saying
now and then adored.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
She to rich too, just looked at him, just peeing
on his bed and was just mad. She was an
angry peer. She's like developed that, like as she's gotten older.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Maybe she wasn't mad. Who knows. No, she's like it's
a territorial thing.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
But with me it's clearly been if she's like trying
to get my attention and I don't like give her
the attention, like she'll just walk on my bed, look
at me and like pee on my comforter, Like yeah, bitch,
I told you getting your attention now are Yeah, I'm
saying I'm anger peer.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
I'm very lucky to have cats that like, every once
in a while they'll miss the litter box, but that's it.
They don't. I've never caught him like peeing in the
corners or anything. You know. That also probably comes from
not going not renting places that have carpet because if
you if you're if you have cats and you rent

(04:00):
places that have carpets, they're going to pee on it.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
There's no if standings. Never, she's not on the carpet.
It's just on my comforter. Really, yeah, she'll just look
at me. Pee on a comforter. I feel like the
look in her eyes is like yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah, that's very different than like going off and into
a corner somewhere. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
No, they were rich. It was on his blanket, like
I said, never on the carpet. Was on the carpet.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
But most cats, Yeah, they'll smell like at some point
some animal has defecated or peede on that carpet and
that's what they're and that's why they're doing it.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Oh, a dog lived here before I could smell it.
A dog lived here before when I moved in. Yeah,
I should say before I moved in. I think one's
going to live here again.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Dog was here when you moved in, right, it.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
Comes with dog dogs is sitting in the living room.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Hey you got a what do you call it? A squatter?

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Right, yeah, it's an Irish squatter.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
You go, folks as a artisanal, bespoke, handmade dad joke
in real time.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
The John Mulaney's show is back on Netflix's his live show. Yeah, yeah,
I'm a big fan. I love it. Him and Richard
Kind make a great team.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Richard Kind.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Richard Kind is like is Ed McMahon, which is kind.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
Like character actor from the eighties Richard Kin.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah, rich Richard Kin best friends with George Clooney. Richard Kind, Yeah,
no shit, Yeah, Richard Kind knows everybody.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
Whole bunch of lines and scrubs right now that you
would not know because he had an arc on there
where he had like everything he said was classic.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
He is, so he is one of the funniest out
there as far as like funny character actors.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
And also yeah, crazy how him and Clooney are boys.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah, I guess Clooney's gotta go back.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
I guess Kloon's got to have a best friend and
they are like the same age ish.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah, yeah, it reminded me of that because they they
pick a subject to kind of randomly talk about. In
the last subject was about squatters, and uh, you know,
they had some guy that Mulaney knows personally that has
like argued the most cases in front of the Supreme Court.
They brought him on to like, but mostly it's like,
you know, Fred Armison and uh, what's that Stavros Sky,

(06:17):
Big Fatmedians, Yeah something, Stavros. He was on there. Wanda
Sykes was on there, John Waters.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
I feel that I might know this Stavros guy based
on the people you've said.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
I think he might be. I'm not saying he's newer.
He's probably been doing it for a while, but I
think he's blown up relatively recently. I think I got
his last name right. I'm trying to remember what his
first name is. His h His musical performances have been
just out of this world too.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
Starvros hel Caius.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Let me see the sky? Yeah that did. Starvros is
his first name. Yes, Yeah, he's Greek as fuck, isn't he.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
Should? I know this guy.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
He's funny, he's kind of well. I didn't like. I
haven't seen any of his comedy but he was funny
on the show, and he seemed like he's a little
more like old school type of comedian.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Well he's if he's Greek, it's dissent because he was
born in Baltimore, Maryland.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah. No, he didn't talk with a Greek.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
He was like, you're like to choose, He's not that
guy am Arabic people cal him down. I can do it.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
His contemporaries are, according to the Google search, Shane Gillis,
Andrew Schulz, Theovon, Tim Dillon, Nate Bargatzi, Fammoral, Josh Johnson,
Jimmy Carr.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah. I don't really know much about him, but I
think he just seems like just one of these job
or comedians who has built up a successful following just
from sticking with it.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
He's just been doing it so long. Now he's got
a following.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah, now he's you know, can probably tourist decent sized venues.
I don't know, I don't know. He didn't come across
like a writer, right, He wasn't a Harvard grad Simpson's
writer type of comedian. There's anything wrong with that. Conan
very funny. There's some very funny people. Dana Gould Gould.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
To Harvard guy.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
I don't know, but he was Simpsons, but he's of
that ill.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
It always bums me out that Dana Guild was at
the held of the Simpsons when it started turning. I whispered,
I whispered. That's how bucked me out. I whispered it
like he was the head writer during the period where
I was like, I'm out of here.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Like I wouldn't. I wouldn't put that on him, right,
who's to say, But personally I've always found Dane Gold
to be hilarious.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
What's saying.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
I find he still is hilarious. I still lit on
a new stand up special out.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
I still every time he's on with Adam Carolla is
like the best episode of the year. Yes, I still
every now and then Hels Jewels, I haven't done that
in a minute.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yeah, but Stick has worn a little thing.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
I mean, his podcast still it's still it still gets
downloaded in my my podcatcher and every now.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yes, yeah, he's very Can I say it's.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Hard to listen to when it comes out like once
a quarter.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
I feel like he does a monthly thing and it's
usually up to a couple hours long, and he structures
it it's an interview. What really kills me is how
he breaks up his interviews, like every once in a
while there's just bongos. And it's just because it's not
like they shifted subjects. It wasn't even like a discernible edit.

(09:24):
It's like somebody would be saying, so, yeah, you know,
we were in New York and uh, you know, we
played a lot of the venues up there. We went
to Upstate New York and that was really good thinking,
good punk, good pink pin. So after that, you know,
went to Jersey and then uh, yeah, Jersey was cool.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
Is that him doing YadA YadA YadA.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
I guess I don't know. Maybe maybe maybe those are
the only edits. You know. Maybe it doesn't seem like
a like it's structure, but it's not like a severely
edited like. It's very conversational. It really feels free flowing.
It doesn't seem like they do a lot of editing.
All the editing is in like his story that he
tells in the middle of it. Usually. But let's see,

(10:08):
we went on a lot of tangents backed me up.
We went were musical performances on John Mulaney's show, A
first show, he had both on Kim Deal and Kim
Gordon separately to sing songs from their respective albums, and
then together to do a song off of Sonic used

(10:30):
Washing Machine.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
So he's just swinging right for gen X. Huh.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Yeah, Well he also had Mannequin Pussy was on after that,
so that's Gwen a little younger. They're more hip band.
I guess that was their debut and.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Well, I mean to just by it. Some of the
names you've mentioned is people who are on there.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yeah, well I think he knows his demo.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
I was really impressed with Mannequin Pussy's performance too. They
were really good. I'm interested in that band. Actually, the
last one that I saw, he had a spring Quintet
do a Vivaldi piece that I couldn't. I don't know
my name, but I definitely heard before and it was
just stunningly beautiful.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Four seasons.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
It might have been something off of the four season,
but I don't think it was. It wasn't. I don't
think it was that. But it's Yeah, it's kind of
a funny show because, like I guess it's it encapsulates
John Mulaney's personality, right, Like I feel like he puts
a lot of work into what he does, and he's
probably very serious about it, but his presentation is just

(11:36):
kind of dashed off, like he's not taking anything too seriously.
He's not the comedian he's gonna get. I've been thinking
about this for a lot. You know, he's not a
fucking George Carlin who's like, you feel like this is
stuff that he's like stewing over and he's just got
to get it out. He's much more flippant about his
comedy more like but like Seinfeldian, So I mean, I guess,

(12:00):
but yeah, it feels very loose in the way of
it's a talk show, but it feels very loose for
a talk show, and he like openly jokes about that
about how like, you know, sometimes they just pick ridiculous
subjects or you know, do skits that don't really work
but are funny just because they're not working anymore, and

(12:20):
I guess a Letterman style. But then he, you know,
he picks these guests and you can tell like he didn't.
It wasn't like, hey, Kim Deal's available this You felt like, oh,
he had a thing in mind, like he wants these people,
this band, he wants.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
So it sounds like he's still figuring out what he's
trying to be.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
You know, he may or may not. I don't know
if the show is going to evolve. I think it
might be exactly what he wants it to be, kind
of the perfect mix of like, like I said, his
personality of caring and not caring, right, caring but not
showing that you're really caring. Like that's very GENI and.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
It's probably because I had a few radio shows. Probably
was like, you know, all right, here's what we want
you to be season one, and it's it's starting to
fit more in Like you just said, how how would
a talk show fit into John Mulaney's personality.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
I get the feeling that way that he wanted to
keep it as loose as possible, and Netflix was pushing
him for more structure. So there's like more Yeah, there
were themes in the first season, but it was like
things about like what's going on in LA Today's theme
is homelessness. You knows theme would be like the fires

(13:31):
or something like that, and like this season it's more
random things and so it feels like they, you know,
Netflix might be going, Okay, we see what you're doing
now they might be giving them a little more way. Yeah,
and and kind of letting him breathe a little bit
and finding that that's where that's his sweet spot.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
I mean, hasn't he won a bunch of Emmys. Oh yeah,
he's gonna trust him, Like, wasn't that The thing about
Netflix initially is they were hands off.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Look, I'm I'm just this is all conjecture. I don't
know what you like. I'm just saying what it feels like.
But no, I think to your point, Netflix is definitely
going the other way. You know, they're they're the Netflix
were the ones that were reported to have said, uh, well,
I don't know. They're creators, the producers who are handling

(14:25):
created I don't know who would be the one to
issue this directive, but hey, let's let's talk. Let's let's
more talkie, less showy. Right, Yeah, that's the basic gist
of it. Like, you can't have just a scene where
a guy breaks into a house and finds the combination
for a safe and then goes in on lots of

(14:48):
safe He's got to have an earpiece in where he's
talking to somebody else and he's saying, okay, I'm in
the place, all right, I'm looking for the number while
I'm here, and I'm looking through the desk. Oh look,
what's this. Well, I found the numbers. Okay, now I'm
going to the safe because that way, the person on
their phone can also say that they've quote unquote watched
that television show.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
Or if you're listening to it when you're falling asleep,
you can still follow the plot.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yeah, and if you fall asleep before it ends, we'll
just email you the next day and tell you, hapes,
the president was dead the whole time. You go, oh yeah,
good good, and you go to work to the next day.
Hey you watch that? Oh yeah that was crazy. The
president was dead the whole time. Yeah, it was wild.
Alert nobody saw that.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
The one guy in the office who hadn't seen it,
like right in this in this let's talk, yeah, spoiler alerts.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Like checking the fuck up?

Speaker 3 (15:37):
Yeah, can we We're done? Like everything is instant Now
it's going to be online the next day, like if
you didn't watch to fucking shit.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
I think like people have gotten so sensitive and maybe
like I think a lot of this is just hack joke, right,
Like it's something that you can throw in every time
somebody's talking about a show. My opinion is if I
if you do a podcast and you're like, we're talking
talking about movie Alien right nineteen seventy nine, and you

(16:04):
at any point say spoil, you're fucking idiot. Forty six
years everybody who downloaded this show is what it's about. Yes,
if you're really interested in seeing you've had the time,
if you had, if I haven't had it spoiled for
you by now, which you probably already have even not
seeing the movie, you probably already know what it's about.
I mean, or Jaws, you know.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
For reference, that would be like in nineteen seventy nine,
when uh Alien came out, that'd been being like, hey,
no fucking give away the plot to Gone with the Wind.
I'd seen that shit yet, a movie that came out
in nineteen thirty five.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
But if you're if you're on a podcast and you're
talking about a bunch of different movies and you bring
up one that you saw this weekend and you're gonna
talk about it, Yeah, go ahead and throw a spoiler
alert out there. That's fine. I think where it really
comes in handy thow as social media posts you're scrolling
through shit and you can't even like your eyes can't resist,

(16:59):
like New Marvel movie ending and it says like so
and so, like I'm trying not to see it, like
but like, yeah, that shit, that's where the real spoilers
are happening. Mm hmm. Nobody's spoiling any shit on a podcast.
It was going to see that. No, you weren't cut up. Yeah.
I don't know how creator friendly uh Netflix is these days.

(17:22):
I feel like they just get lucky and have so
much money to throw around that they can attract, you know,
big town like Tayla Sheridan or somebody to make a.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
Show for you throw a million things at the wall.
If a thousand of them stick, your business, yep.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yeah. So they're just Ratio and this ship throwing all
the spaghetti at the wall, you know. I feel like
Max still has a good red, although they have a
branding issue like now it's black, so blacks, no, not no,
just black instead of a blue background black Max, it's black. Yeah.
So they went from HBO to HBO.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Max and Max sounds like a guy used to buy
drugs from.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Now they got rid of the blue background and now
it's just black.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Why I don't know, just because whoever themselves from Andy fired,
Like HBO is like an iconic brand, and you went
with Max what thirty what twenty eight year old made
that decision?

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Now? Oh, I mean like Warner Brothers just doesn't Have
you not heard anything?

Speaker 3 (18:19):
Have you not heard the brand equity? It's marketing class everybody.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
They're looking to sell Looney Tunes, the whole thing, lock
Stock and Barrel. Who wants it? Not just like, oh,
we're going to make a great fun movie with the
classic Luoney Tunes characters and not distribute it and sell
it to somebody else who has no money for advertising budget,
and so nobody knows that it's actually out, Like, let's

(18:45):
just get rid of this completely. Let's get rid of
I mean that's like so identifiably Warner Brothers. The Warner
Brothers logo used to fucking be behind the same fucking background.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
As the right that WB meant we're gonna see fucking
bugs bunny man.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Right. I don't know, Maybe Apple will buy it.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
Who came up with I guess like double doublewawb.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
I guess Apple doesn't really have much of a studio,
Like they don't really make their own shows. They're more
I mean, not that anybody's making them, like.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
How they developed their products.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Oh yeah, they they are just buying stuff.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
You know, they're to be fair. I'm sitting here with
an iPad, an iPhone. I have a Mac. But but
that's how Apple.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
About their hardware. I'm talking about their their streaming service.
But they do a really good job. But they've got
a lot of great shows on Apple probably. I mean
it's definitely the place where I get the most bang
from my buck, hands down, because it's well, I mean,
it's all bundled now because I have the like the
Apple music and all that shit, and I share it

(19:56):
with my family as well. But like the bass, cause
for me, it was like five bucks, you get Apple
TV and though the studio the new seth Rogan Joint.
That's fucking fantastic. Keep hearing that is just killer television,
Like unbelievably funny, so smartly written, exquisitely directed. I mean

(20:22):
it's great. Second episode, so like you know, the general premise.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
These guys promoted to studio head.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Yeah, he's he's the guy who's been working at the
same studio forever, just hoping that he's gonna get that chance,
and he just loves the fuck out of movies. But
he's not like he gets starstruck a lot when he's
so like he's not really good at his job, you know,
he's like intimidated. So he's kind of bumbling, but like

(20:51):
he goes to visit said, there's a movie that's being
filmed by Sarah Polly and she's doing this final scene
in her movie that it's going to take place at
sunset and it's going to be a wonner that takes
this actress through a building, back out into a car
and drive away one shot. And he's like, you know,
wanders are the classic Hollywood. You know, he's talking to

(21:13):
like think about Scorsese, think about you know, going through
the kitchen and casino and shit like that, these great shots,
and he wants to be there to see a little
bit of history being made, you know, because he's so
peeked about movies and all that. And of course all
this energy comes out in the wrong ways and ends
up fucking everything up. But also at the same time,

(21:33):
the whole episode is shot as a wanner and beautifully,
and it's so its form follows function, so it's married
so beautifully and sure there. I mean, like even I'm
sure they hid some things, because he even makes a
joke at some point he's like, you can just hide
in a swishpan. He's like, we're not hiding it in

(21:53):
a swishpan where they like move the camera really quick
and use that as a place where we can just
edit right here and it'll look like it's all one shot.
That's a common trick that they did, and maybe they
did some of that, but still it's one thing to
do a wonner where you've got all different actors that
have to hit their que at the exact same time,
be in the right place, you know, when the camera

(22:14):
comes to find them. All the extras have to be
out of the way. They have to constantly move around
so that they're not in the shot as the camera moves.
I mean, this is like a Swiss clock that has
to run to get shots like this. To do that
and then on top of it, film that process right
seamlessly is like almost more amazing, you know, And to

(22:37):
just keep keeping on the compliments. Most of these runners
shots are like a person walking and talking right, and
you know, it's really just giving a lay of land
and setting, doing some some background story for you, and
so the characters are talking about like love them.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah, it's a walking talk type of thing. This is
walk and talk and trip and fall and yell and
have like straight like so many like it's so chaotic
what happens in there. It's not just like we have
to walk through the kitchen to make sure that guy
doesn't back up and run into us when we would
come past him. This is like, at some point, you know,

(23:19):
our lead character has to trip and fall over a
coffee table and break it and injure himself as well.
So it's it's more on the level of like nineteen
forty one, where it's like all one shot and it's
mostly action and people dying, but really really funny too.
Everybody's just dynamite it. Catherine Hahn is hilarious. She's the
person in charge of marketing. Oh and she's like always

(23:47):
dressed like like a twenty year old and like she's
got like ridiculous like she'll have like big puffy gold
jackets and her hair all done up weird, and you
know she supposed she's like Okay, this one's really lit.
It's full of riz and where you.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
Know, talking like someone half her age, but.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Melding that perfect like forty year old who's out of
touch but believes that she is in touch. Yeah, you know,
and just playing it without an ounce of like letting
us know that she knows like her her character believes
that she is powerful and cool and hip believes it
totally like barn Holtz is really great in it. But yeah,

(24:30):
hopefully the Apple TV thing is working out for them,
because they might never heard her time selling iPhones lately.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
Maybe I just got a new one, so good.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yeah, yeah, I'm I've been Actually I would have already
pulled the trigger on a new one if it wasn't
for the fact that Exfinity Mobiles website is so fucking jacked.
When you call tech support, what I've realized is they're
doing the exact same thing. You are right, They're going
to the exact same site. So, like, you know, I
have a technical issue, Like I'm trying to upgrade one phone,

(25:01):
but only the other phone on the account shows up
as upgradeable, and so I can't do it online. And
I call them, and the after like forty five minutes,
they're like, yeah, you're right, it's just not it doesn't
show up on a screen. I'm like, that's it. You have
no extra abilities or capability. You just have the website
in front of you and you just log into it
and do it. I mean, I'm I'm sure there's lots

(25:21):
of people who need that done for them who can't
navigate the website.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
But yeah, my mom her internet company, but the one
I fired from the house ten years ago, the one
I got rid of, Yeah, validating my decision. Like for
some reason they could not. They kept telling her like,
my dad's name was still on the account, and they
were and they're like, we're getting out of the cable business.
They're like, we're shutting down cables. So April first, you

(25:48):
gotta like figure out what you're doing, right, So she
had to just you know, essentially they're just regiving her
new you know, reissuing everything without because she had a
cable in bundle and all that. But count was telling
my dad's name and they were telling her she had
to talk to somebody to do that. I'm like, no,
you fucking don't. She's like, well, I don't have an email, dude.

(26:11):
Seventy seven, she does not have an email address. Good
for her. She's not in the matrix so but I
signed up. I'm like, give me cable bill, get the
account active. I'm like, names changed. She's like, well I
want to change the billing. They tell me I got
to call him. I'm like, no, you fucking don't change it.
Boom done. All right, if somebody calls you and tells

(26:32):
you they got to do that, tell them you handled
it online and then hang up.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
And are you able to actually update it from the website?
And yeah, story ended here. Yeah this sounds like the end.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
Yeah it should be the end, but it is not.
So somebody calls her, tell exactly what I predicted. Oh hey,
we got to do this because she set up an
appointment with somebody to call them. I'm like, when they
call you, tell them to get out an internet fuck it.
You know, don't need you. She tried to do that
and they're like, oh, our record show it's not changed.

(27:08):
So I wasn't there to I wasn't there to just
grab the phone and hang up, like this person's know
what they're fucking talking about. And then there is this whole rigamarole.
She ends up getting like double billed, like twice, and
all this dumb shit. It's all straightened out. Now. But yeah,
like I tried to explain to her, like I just

(27:29):
did what they're telling you. They nobody has to talk
to you to do like I even't showed her like, look,
I changed it from his name. I even said, hey,
his name. Then I changed it your name. So that's done, right,
And then like, fucking tech support is not tech support anymore.
It's some random they're paying to answer a phone and
walk through an app.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Yep, where are the nerds? That's what they were supposed
to be doing, right, They're out there going to comic
cons and getting laid and shit.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
Now they wrote the app.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Fucking nerd back the job done, get back to their phones.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
I saw an article. Now this is debatable, and you
might actually learn something. Yeah, the twelve greatest TV spinoffs
of all time. Again, I don't know why people do
the fucking the arbitrary random numbers. Whatever happened to ten
and five? Maybe even twenty if you wanted to get.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Crazy, that's a good number.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
No, but no, but this sight, well, I guess you
have to credit him slash film whatever.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Well, they would all be Norman lear right, right, But
my whole identity is not being Norman.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
But the site is guilty of like thirty three, the
twenty six best, like why do you owe all these
random numbers? One time I saw a list the seventy
two most blankety blank like seventy two, like but anyway,
the twelve best TV spinoffs of all time that I
did not know this one was spinoff? Did you Happy Days? Was?

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Uh? Vernon? Nope?

Speaker 3 (29:01):
That was a spin off of Happy Days.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
It's the other other way around. Yes, what would Happy
Days be?

Speaker 3 (29:09):
It? It's been off I when I was trying to
think of I never I was aware of this show,
the show you've heard of, but I never even like,
I didn't even know they were even related. Love American Style,
Love American Style. I have never seen a second of
that show.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Never have, No not one that niked Knight picked up.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
Yeah, well, only had four seasons. It didn't have a
It didn't have a giant catalog.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Kate was there? Was there a cross? Like did the
Fonds show up one day on Love American Style?

Speaker 3 (29:42):
Let me read about it? Kid's a star? How did it?
That's an effort?

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Did that shirt youew in a leather jacket?

Speaker 3 (29:50):
It was a failed pilot and it aired as a
segment on Love American Style, but because it was oh
so was.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Love American Silent Andthology Show.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
I'm not sure, but it says here because maybe that's
why we never see it. Pop culture was buzzing with
the fifties because American graffiti was out. Yeah, yeah, that
they chose to that. ABC went hey, let's take that,
let's try that pilot, and then.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Yeah, I think you don't see the anthology shows so
much pop up and reruns, like even the Classic Columbos,
because I think that I bet you they're just more
expensive and more complicated a license in that respect, right,
because if you give somebody friends, you're like, okay, well
most of it is six people, you know, right, Like

(30:40):
an anthology show, you've got like different actors every week,
and so it's probably harder not I don't know, I
bet you it's more expensive to license and anthology show
like that, Yeah, whereas like they could get my three dad,
my three dads, my three.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
Because you're paying different actors every week cheap, right, unless
they're all taking Yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Even to like, you know, for for syndication, you know,
for somebody like Nick and Knight, who was just scooping
up like mister ed and ship like that.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Well, it's a lot less checks to write, right if
you have a cast versus an anthology.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
That's what I'm thinking.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
This next one I think definitely belongs in this list.
The Jeffersons.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Yeah, the Jeffersons were a spin off All in the family.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
Yes, we moved next door to Archie Bunker, yes, before
they moved on up to the east Side.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Star Trek the Next Generation? Make it so number one?

Speaker 2 (31:37):
We're considering that a spin off of Star Trek.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
Yeah, okay, it's yeah, it's the next Uh. Family Matters.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
Family Matters was a spin off? Do you know? I knew?

Speaker 3 (31:49):
I knew this so because I watched the original, So.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
I don't forgive me lemm Okay, we're talking the same show. Then,
Jelle Julil White, did he ever appear in a show?

Speaker 3 (32:04):
He was?

Speaker 2 (32:04):
He was like a second second season edition, wasn't he?

Speaker 3 (32:08):
He was like, yeah, he was like a character that
that tested really well that they kept bringing back and
then they went, hey, be part of the cast.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Right, So Family Matters were they like neighbors with like
the full house crew.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
No, I wonder if you'll get this because it probably
because if you put him next to each other, you'd
be like, how are these shows related? Well, maybe Perfect Strangers.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Perfect Strangers.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
The wife on Family Matters was the elevator operator in
the building where they were the newspaper that they worked.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
What it like. I'm I'm not bitching about I think
it's great, but like, how does this work? Like people
really want to see the life of the elevator operator
in Perfect Tree, that's what they're thinking. In Ollywood like this, it's.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
Because it's let's be honest.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
The eighties, she was more like, hey, we cast this person,
make it.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
She was the sassy black lady, and she tested well
and they gave her her own show and it worked well.
I guess too. Also, Carl Winslow apparently.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
I don't remember their DNA.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
I did not know this. Apparently Carl Winslow was also
on an episode of Perfect Strangers and they decided to
give them both show.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
I watched Perfect Strangers a lot. That was my show.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Well, then you have the elevator operator. Yeah, I don't
sassy black elevator operator. Once they got the job at
the newspaper, I don't remember that man after the drug store.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
I don't think it is this true. This is one
of those what you call it? This was one of
those Mandela moments.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
People always forget this was a spin off, but it was.
And after thirty thirty are we over thirty years now?

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Right?

Speaker 3 (33:53):
The Simpsons?

Speaker 2 (33:55):
No, I mean Tracy Allman Show, right, but that's not
a spin off?

Speaker 3 (34:00):
Is that they were on Tracy Oleman?

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (34:03):
The first time I saw Simpsons, I remember watching the skits.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
I guess that. Yeah, that counts, as if any of
these count, this counts. I guess you're right, yeah, Fraser Fraser. Yeah,
Cheers arguably more popular than Cheers. Yeah, I mean this
only made more money and syndication than Cheers did too,
because it like and.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
Then this one managed. The first one runs for twenty years,
and this one manages to eclipse it. Law and Order
SVU it's ran for longer than Yeah, the original came
in ninety night for like twenty five years. Yeah, original
orders only for like twenty oh only twenty.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Well, once you get the special Victims Unit, can you
really go back to the regular right? Is it even
gonna tickle your fancy? Like? Oh that's sweet, you were mugged?

Speaker 3 (34:48):
Now, this one's for you.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Call me when you've got a seaman swab. Okay, I'm
not interested unless you're scraping under the fingernails for skin, yes,
and talking about defensive wounds.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
So this one's for you, because to me, this is
the one of the this is the one of those things.
Does not belong here. Angel.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Oh, Angel's spin off of Buffy.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
But is it like Venerated? Was it on for a
long time?

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Like oh yeah, okay, oh yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
Okay, I did not know this.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Oh like looking back on Buffy, Like, I think Buffy
might still have more fans, but they also can look
back at and go, yeah, it was kind of dumb sometimes.
But Angel people think that show very seriously.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Okay, noted, so belongs on the list.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Might might be smaller fan base, but their fans are
rabbits like.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
Top twelve spinoffs of all time.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
I think, yeah, absolutely, all right, yeah, I think I
think I have.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
To take your word for it on this one.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Well, I think, you know, they stripped away a lot
of the teen silliness of the original show and kept
the emotional core of it, and I think they did
a really good job with that. I didn't watch all
the episodes, but I kind of followed it and and yeah, no,
it's definitely it's legit. This I actually liked David booryana

(36:11):
is more an Angel than I did as Angel and
Buffy because he was just the big, dumb, squarehead guy
an Angel.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
David boring Anus. Yes, mister bones, I did not know
this one was a spin off n CIS to spin
off of you have any ideas?

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Should just say it Jag? Yeah, actually I've read that
somewhere ah and I was like, what.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
Yeah, that's honestly what that's a spinoff?

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Yeah? No, I I can't remember, but I came across
that for some reason. I don't know why I be
like reading about n CIS at all. I've never I've
never seen an episode of n CIS that I know of.
I have seen a little bit of JAG because that
chick had an amazing rack.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
She had grandparents, No, no, dude, that brunette with the
short hair and the big right h she was so hot,
so hot that you didn't bother learn her name. Yeah,
this one, this now, this is my this is my Like,
we're a little loose with the spin off.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Okay, the Colbert rapport, yeah yeah, but the character appeared
on that character was on The Daily Show, so that
definitely counts. Okay, it's not like like John Oliver I
would say no, right, John Olier show doesn't count because
he was as himself, maybe playing a character, but he's
still But like Stephen Colbert was full on. Yes, he's

(37:37):
using his own name, but he's doing a character.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
All right. There's another one for you from twenty fourteen,
The Flash.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
That one doesn't count, so not top twelve. No, I
don't think it counts as a spinoff. Oh yeah, I
mean I know what they're going.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
After, green a Green Arrow.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
Green Arrow came out first. Flash was introduced for the
CW shows in Green Arrow first. But nah, I can't.
I can't count that because those are pre established characters.
That that's just how they could have just as easily
been the Flash. And then they introduced.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
Green Arrow, right, you know, next one. No qualms about
this one. Better call Saul.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Oh that's another one where like case could be made
better show than the original.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
Really, yeah, that's a bold statement.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
I love both, but only one has Michael McKeon in it,
so that kind of really heavily weights that on one side.
For me, I love him and he is so good
as Jimmy's older brother in Better Call Saul.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
Oh, I remember, I remember watching it. Yeah, I never
saw how it ended. I made it to every I
watched all seasons, the last season. I don't know how
it ended.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Well, you know how it ended in black and white
with his ass working at a cinnabon, because that was
the intros for the show. Remember, yeah, it would flash
forward to the so you know where he ended up.
But like, yeah, yeah, I think it's it was an
interesting show. But I don't know, you know, like someday
I'll probably go back and do another rewatch of Breaking

(39:11):
Bad and go, oh yeah, wait, I forgot how good
this is?

Speaker 3 (39:15):
Dude? I mean that made Cranston who he Before that,
he was just the guy. He was the dad on
Malcolm in the Middle.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Now he plays he's got a brief role role in
the first uh, the first episode of that South Rogan show.
What is it called again? Do we even say what
it was called? The studio studio? Yes, yeah, he plays
the not that guy was running the studio, the guy
who owns the studio. Oh you hear that? In Michigan,
they're looking at these bat like that thing you have

(39:42):
in your hand. There that one the disposables, disposable vapes. Well,
they're finally starting to look into what a big issue
it is because a lot of batteries that are now
going into landfills, a lot more batteries than before we started.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
Do we mean all of them, not just the weed ones.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Yeah, I'm not sure about the car like like rich.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
And and I think we've even said breeze containers are
the new cigarette packs. Those are the things that are
all over the fucking ground.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Yeah. So I know that they've been looking into what
they can do about batteries in general. From that, it's
not being segregated into cannabis and nicotine as far as
that's concerned. But I did read a story that specifically
for the cannabis industry, because they are regulated differently, starting

(40:36):
to put together a recycle program.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
Fine, that's fine, Yeah, I just I gotta go cost
this or drop this off somewhere. Fine, just make it convenient,
right government, It'll remember, take a lesson from Apple. It's
about user experience.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
Here's what it will be. When you go to the
shop to get your ship, they'll have a been there
and it'll just chuck your old batteries.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
And that's what the rational solution should be. But the
government's going to be involved, so let's or is that
what they're proposing.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
No, I don't know. You're right, I don't, but they
could fuck it up the rules, and I guess it's
not as simple as like, you know, like at Mayer
now they got the boxes where you put your old
bags in to recycle your plastic bags. But a battery
is like, technically it's hazardous material, and especially if you

(41:27):
have now a whole been of these things and one
of them might leak or blow up even so, not.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
That fucking hand hazard if they let sixteen year old
stock them at Walmart and stick them in their mouth.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
Yeah, yeah, I get you, But there are regulations so
and there are things to think of, So yeah, maybe not.
It's not as simple as just let the dispensary stock bile.
I mean they already do stock bile millions of cheap
batteries right now.

Speaker 3 (41:59):
There's yeah, when I go To's full of batteries.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
So I don't Yeah, I don't know why they shouldn't
be able to just course, I don't know. Then you'll
probably have idiots like making explosives to look like expired
vape cartridges and then throwing them in there. You know,
some heist idea like it'll blow a hole in the
wall and then they'll go in and take all the weed.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
Well, now there will You just spoke it into existence.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
I just gave them ideas. But now I'm all for it.
And that's why I still I have that disposal. I
was still chucking these coils over and over again, but
I keep my batteries. As a matter of fact, I
had one of these stizzy batteries stop charging on me,
and I popped it open and saw that one of
the leads to the battery had broken, and so I

(42:47):
soldered it back into place and still working good. So
I'll make these fuckers work until they don't work anymore.
And as much as it's like convenient, and you could
even say as it might even be healthier, as far
as like you're just chucking it and getting a new device,
you know, and this is something that is that you're

(43:08):
like handling constantly and putting in your mouth. So I'm
sure my batteries that I'm using over and over again
are way more germy than your disposable that you've got
in your hand. But that. The big reason not to
go disposal is I just couldn't. I don't want to
either A chuck a bunch of batteries directly into the
trash that I know they're going to leak into a

(43:29):
landfill and destroy the ground water and just fuck up
the environment in general, or b I don't want to
have to hold on to a bunch of these fucking
things and go what do I do with them? I
get that it's like changing your own oil. You know, Hey,
you can do it on the cheap and if you're
not afraid to get your hands dirty. But that's what
you do with all that fucking oil that you took

(43:50):
out of your car.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
Right, can't dump it in the sewer? You get rusted?

Speaker 2 (43:54):
Yeah, you shouldn't dump it in the sewer.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
Brother, I'm in the water treatment business. You can turn
any water into clean, potable water. You just need the
right the right chemicals and the right filtration, the right tools.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
I guess my Brandtizzy is in some hot water. They're
and under investigation in New York or four possible marijuana
quote unquote inversion. You know what this is. I think
we talked about this before. It's basically a way to
like cook your books to make it look like you're
selling weed, but you're actually like like you're buying weed

(44:29):
but taking a loss on it, like me writing it
off like it all went like got moldy or some shit.
But you're actually instead of burning or disposing it properly,
you're just taking perfectly good weed and selling it illegally
on the second hand mark, on the illegal market. Oops,
your hand market. Can I get some used joints please?

(44:51):
We got roaches or blunts.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
Here's like six of them.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Yeah. The California based cannabis megabrand Dizzy with Three Eyes
is under investigation New York for allegedly smuggling smuggling marijuana
from out of state into licensed stores. New York Times
reported Monday, Sissy's one of several companies that the state's
Office of Cannabis Management is probing for possibly laundering product

(45:19):
into the state via licensed state processors. So they're kind
of doing the opposite of New York.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
Do you have to so what New York? You have
to grow it in New York if you're going to
sell it in New York?

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Well, I think that's all states, isn't it? As have
any of them actually opened up laws for interstate commerce.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
I mean they should, it would help.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Yeah, that's true, but I don't think that they that
they have because again, as soon as you cross the
state border, the FEDS are involved, and you don't want
the FEDS involved and regulating something that they deem to
be illegal.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
So hey, don't worry, Biden's going to take it off
schedule one. Oh wait, he's long gone and then never happened.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
Dizzey CEO James kimd I any inversion and claimed that
the audit of the facility found the operations to be
compliant with New York laws and regulations. Okay, so that's
why you're under an investigation allegations for inversion, a term
for inserting marijuana products produced outside of regulated channels into
the licensed supply chain. So I thought it was the opposite.

(46:19):
Maybe I was misinformed.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
So I get it. We don't know where it came from.
You can't sell it to people in our state.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
Now, how is that worth it to them taxes?

Speaker 3 (46:29):
They didn't get the tax money from growing it. Dude.
If the government's doing anybody, it's because they're not getting
paid generally.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
But like they're growing it in California and then importing
it all the way over into New York. I mean
they have to be taxed on it in California. I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
Maybe it's the illegal grow up in California. We're stizzy.
I don't know you you know Stizzy, I don't. I
don't you board member, you have those meetings.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
If true, the allegations that came to light on Monday
would be the latest headache for Los Angeles Bace dizzy.
This is interesting. The company has been accused in recent
lawsuits of subscribing to the mjbizz fact book Exclusive industry debt.
Oh wait, that's the end of the article. It ends
on the company has been accused in recent lawsuits of
colon but there's nothing, and then it goes into subscribe

(47:21):
to the mg face fact book.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
There's the more below it. I found that seems to
be a trend lately. There's an article the other day
I thought was over. No, there was just a giant ad.
That's it. That's all she wrote. That's great to be continued,
sometimes pulling it up in all text mode. This is that.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
But aha, I found Yeah, if I go to the
actual web page, now I can see the bullet points
illegal business practices. That's your first bullet point illegal great
payoff illegal business practices. Yes, dude, yes, this is like

(48:02):
a fucking book report. Like Edgar Allen Poe has written
many great works such as books and poems. Let's see
the alstomate to use marketing. It's popular vaporize? Is there
oil cartridges to youth? I don't like really. I always
saw them as more of like it seemed like a

(48:24):
slightly more not that they're like a total upscale brand,
but they just seem to more stylized. Like none of
their products had wacky colors or characters on them. You know,
they didn't package their stuff is like lollipops or anything
and all. It's pretty above the board, like adult use
cannabis product selling hemp based products with excessive THC O. No, no, huh,

(48:48):
you're speaking of advertised Like I think it might be
getting a little out of control around here, the cannabis
billboards or it's just everywhere you look.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
Now, I think the City of Detroit sax about to
clamp down on them.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
Yeah, it's because and they should do the same for
the lawyers too, I think as well. Because it literally,
there's only two types of billboards in Detroit. Well, I'm sorry,
there's three. There's cannabis business, there's lawyer business, and then
there's every once in a while a memorial that somebody

(49:22):
threw up for somebody who got shots. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
Well Jesus, Jesus always has billboards.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Not so much. Yeah, but one of them. I was
passing one on coming home on a mile the other day,
and I forget what the name of the business was,
but they had I don't know if it was like
their mascot or they just thought it was a funny picture.
But it was like a cartoon ape who kind of
you know, looked all like slack job and eyes all

(49:49):
blurry and red. There's a stone dape. I'm like, that's
just fucking Joe Cammell all over again. Guys, Like, can
you please regulate yourselves before you get totally clean am
down on yeah, you know, and be reasonable, like can
we get past this, Like that's not your customer. Okay,
that's a customer that exists, but how many of your

(50:12):
customers are coming in going?

Speaker 3 (50:14):
Dude?

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Man ah, I just need to get some fucking weed, man, man,
I want to get stoned.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
Do you think of billboard, that's his free weed. No
cap is better. That's an actual billboard.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
That's a little better.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
Every time I joke to see it, I was like,
that place is not for me. They're definitely trying to
not get me to go in there places. Say, just
is your place just called young people weed? Because it's
essentially what that billboard saying.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Yeah, but those young people saying no cap are all
over twenty one, so younger me, young younger than you are.
Did you see the viral Bill Burr clip where he's
at some red carpet event thing he's promoting a movie
and he gets asked the stupid question and he just
ends up going off on two different reporters.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
No, okay, where were these reporters from?

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Are they just randoms like news organizations quote unquote, Yeah,
it's a you know, it's a fucking press event.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
So it's like not for It's not like he sat
down with a reporter.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
Is it for Glen Garry, Glenn Ross? I don't know,
it's him something else. It's him, Bob Odenkirk and Karen Colchan.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
Yeah, I know you don't want to go do that, right, No,
you know the lineups of like you know where they
usually ask you stuff like who you wearing and ship
like that, and this is what he got asked into.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
L is reading up?

Speaker 2 (51:41):
You know that perhaps you've been supportive of what he did.
What is your take on that?

Speaker 3 (51:45):
If you were.

Speaker 4 (51:45):
Reading up, I don't get you read up on it
because I said what I felt about it and I
said what a lot of.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
Things people took it that way? So could you parafy
how what you know?

Speaker 4 (51:53):
I'm not going to just have some controversial moments you
can get clicks.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
I'm not doing that. I mean, I'm here to for Conan.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
I'm not I'm not doing all this. What are you
gonna bring up next to the Middle East?

Speaker 4 (52:02):
I went to summer school three out of four years
in high school.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
Versus what you're warming.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
You said about Elon that he was ruining ear if
I saw in the view you're critical of him?

Speaker 3 (52:15):
What do you think of all the boycotts.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
I don't watch the news.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
I don't watch the news. I have no idea what's
going on. I watch Instagram.

Speaker 4 (52:22):
I watch people wipe out on motorcycles. I watch lions
and Hyaenus fight each other. This is the things that
I do, And I don't think you should be asking
a comedian.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Your garmedians are on top of current events.

Speaker 4 (52:34):
You're a no, no, that's that's weak. That you guys
passing the buck. You guys need to have balls again,
which you don't. You guys always goes should we be
thinking this? You guys present stuff like that. You you
guys used to have balls, You get your balls back?

Speaker 2 (52:50):
And it's not my job.

Speaker 3 (52:51):
I am a dancing clown. Oh man, I might need
to resubscribe to the Monday Morning podcast. That is I'm
brand for Bill.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
Yeah, I don't mind that being mean. I'm a dancing clown, right, Yeah, he's.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Not being mean, like he's being real. And yeah, could
he have pulled his punches and been more polite with
somebody in public? I guess most people would do that,
But then again, most people haven't been asked those same
two stupid questions fifty times a day everywhere they got
four years.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
Why are you asking me?

Speaker 2 (53:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (53:25):
Really?

Speaker 2 (53:26):
Well, like, he's totally allowed and it's totally legit for
him to have opinions, even uninformed opinions, about things that
are going on in the world. And I think he's
over exaggerating how uninformed he is as well, but his
point does stand. Please, I'm not the one to look
to for answers on this shit. What are we doing?

(53:48):
Like and that's and what he's really also doing And
he fully says it openly. They're in his rant. He's
I wouldn't even call it a rant. His terse reply
that you know, he's the whole them passing the buck right,
rather than actually have to talk to real people who
might get to the bottom of this issue and we

(54:09):
might have a story. It's so much easier to get
a famous person's sound bite opinion on this and people
will click all over the fuck on that thing.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
Yeah all ready for Bill.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
Yeah, and puff Post had a story about this. The
title reads, Bill Burr snaps that reporters for using him
for quote unquote clicks, and ironically it goes viral. Yeah, No,
it didn't ironically go viral. It wasn't viral because it
touched a nerve with so many people. Yeah, so many people,

(54:42):
whether they agreed with or even knew who the fuck
Bill Burr was, watched that and went, yeah, he's fucking right,
this is bullshit. Though I don't know like our ironically
goal viral.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
He didn't.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
Where's the irony in there? Do you understand what the
word irony means? Because he was like, it would be
one thing if Bill said, you know what, fuck you,
and I hope nobody sees this, and I hope this
video doesn't go viral on you because I don't want
anybody to see this bullshit, and then then that went viral.
That would owe the irony. Yeah, that it would be

(55:14):
rich rich irony. This is not He's railing not against
going viral, about journalists, people who consider themselves journalists, being
concerned with just going viral.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
You know what I noticed?

Speaker 2 (55:30):
The going viral for a comedian like Bill Burr is great.
That shouldn't be the objective of somebody who worked for
the New York Times.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
You don't, I know the other day, and I'm not
sure if we've talked about this on Mike's or not.
Like the news is no longer who, what, one, where
and why. I have read so many things lately that
are about things that might happen or could happen, Like
it's not about like you're called a.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
Reporter or the question headlines.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
Yeah, it's called a reporter you're supposed to report on
something and there's no reporting anymore.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
Yeah, yes, I think this gets back to some This
is a subject that I know we've butted heads on
many times before in the past. But this objective truth
thing that should somehow exist in journalism that I just
I don't think exists anywhere in life. I think that
what some of this is a fault of journalism as

(56:22):
an organization, and some of this is the fault of
what people expect from journalists. There is no objective truth.
There's no such thing as objective truth. There's certain things
like numbers and physics that are objective, but there's.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
No There's only like what happened.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
There's only greater opinion of what the truth appears to be,
and the story that you use to tell that with
that is what journalism is. No one journalist is going
to know the absolute truth about everything, or even one thing.

Speaker 3 (56:54):
You know, Again, it's based like it's supposed to be,
Like what your face can still be fatal, what happened
still be factual.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
Yes, it can still be factual, still be what happened,
but it still has to be at the end of
the day, a story that tells a narrative if there's
no narrative there, what I'm saying is there's no narrative,
and should we or shouldn't we there's no narrative, and
like is this going to happen or not going to happen?
You know? There and and people. So I think that

(57:23):
some people had this concept of like journalists should just
be facts and facts don't contain a narrative. And if
you don't have a narrative, you don't you're not actually
conveying an idea. Facts don't convey ideas. You could print
a bunch of facts and numbers and it doesn't come
across to a reader as the whole point. They don't
come away with anything.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
There's not supposed to be a narrative. That's my point.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
No, there has to be a narrative or there's no story.
You're not gonna without a narrative. You don't convey anything.
You're not conveying anything. You have to have a story
to tell them. And that story can be something that
they agree with or disagree with, but it has to
be a story. It has to be. There's no other
way for us to digest it if it isn't a
story of some sort. Now, that doesn't mean like a

(58:08):
hot like a story like you put together in a
movie where you're like, we can just move this around,
like maybe the phone call was made after this story
came out, and this and that happen and that makes
it better for our story. That's not what I'm saying.
Saying that the journalist has to have an opinion about
what the narrative is that he's looking at and give
that to us as his version of the narrative. It
can be as objective as one person can be, and

(58:30):
it's close to the truth as that person believes it
to be. But there's no such thing as an objective truth,
and there's no value in handing over just objective truths.
They have to be packaged for somebody to understand it,
not just not just pay attention to it, to fully
comprehend it and digest it.

Speaker 3 (58:49):
So anyway, sorry for the rant. I can understand the
fucking ran I can understand. I can understand that. I
just think the methods have gotten oh law, but should
say there's the standards are bye bye.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
Yeah, because because.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
I was reading a story about from the Hill was
talking about how lazy reporting is leading to junk science
just being spread like wildfire. Yeah, and it brought up
the guy from I think we maybe talked about it
over the years, the guy ten years ago, who he's
an actual, like noted scientist, but he put out a
fake study talking about chocolate could help you lose weight,

(59:27):
and the actual experiment was him putting out a fake
story to see what would happen, and sure as shit,
New York Times, New York Post, USA Today, the Today showed, Hey,
turns out you can eat chocolate and lose weight, and
he was His point was, like nobody vets anything, nobody
fact checks fucking anything.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Like no, I mean all that shit, I'm not.

Speaker 3 (59:50):
And his point was, this was ten years ago and
it's way worse now.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
Yeah, science is reporting I mean just the I mean
this new concept of the science that tells you just
in those two words alone, the science like what like
it's it's etched in stone so and and you told
me to write follows ounce that you weigh everything again
that lives in like fucking Sweden or wherever the fuck

(01:00:15):
it is, that it gets dusted off every year, and
like Rewagh to make sure it didn't lose any atoms,
like you told me that's the science.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
To follow the science, but to take off my mask
between bites. Yeah, well, if I'm following the science that
I was taught in fourth grade, that's that's not gonna
do ship Like yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
And that's I mean that phrase came hot on the
heels of like so much inaccurate reporting, and I'm not
even pointing the finger in that. Like early days of COVID,
people were panicking, We were reporting on all kinds of shit,
and we were all hungry for information. We all wanted
to have something that either just pulls that it was
going to be okay or that it wasn't as bad

(01:00:54):
as it was started coming out that were like, but
then to follow all that like, Okay, we were wrong
about this and we were wrong about that, and this
didn't work and that didn't help. But now we have
the science, so now you can believe it. It's not changing
from here. This is the science people. We found it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
I mean we it was there the whole time. Turn
your phrase against you. The science said mass didn't do shit. Yeah,
the science said it was killing old people. You didn't
need to close the schools in some states for three
fucking years. The science is now saying we fucked a
generation of kids up educationally. But you know whatever, I'm

(01:01:33):
a conspiracy theorist.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
So anyway we should wrap up. Yeah, there's too serious.

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
Yeah, two rants in a row and double rant. That's
how we're ending it. Double barrel. People at the Weason
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I'll be better.

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Oh man, if you would like to help us maintain
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Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
Know anyone out there giving us four starts. You better
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Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
Right, I'm kidding.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
I'm not threatening, right, but.

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
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