March 11, 2025 • 46 mins
On this week show Chris and Aaron deal with problems with a new podcast computer and talk about: teching out the new studio setup, Zero Day, Chris’ visit to Dallas, Running Point, Daredevil: Born Again, and Gene Hackman. Please follow us on Twitter @TheWeedsmen420, Instagram @TheWeedsmenPotcast, and on Facebook at Facebook.com/TheWeedsmenPotcast/ Download the rest of our shows at ChristopherMedia.net
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Christopher Media. Let's make some noise from Asthma Corr Studios
near Detroit, Michigan. It's the Weedsman Podcast. And now you
have smoked yourself retarded, here are the Weedsmen.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
You want to get hot.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Welcome to the Weedsman Podcast.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
I'm Chris, I'm Aaron, but I didn't want to move
my mic. We were doing some folly work earlier. I
was capturing some of the sounds of this mic. Stand
it's getting it might need some w D forty little bit.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
I got like five cans of my truck. Yeah, make
that happen.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Yeah, I think we might just spray this thing down.
It's making a lot of noise. I tend to fidget
with my mic, so yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I'm hearing that. A little bit of delay in the recording.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
It's given it a kind of phazy sounding be all right,
yeah you can, you can tweak it. We got a
new computer, new recording software.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I feel like I'm doing stage announcing. Yeah, like I'm
about to bring Bad Company on stage at the County Front.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Are you're getting like a full slap back?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
I'm getting a slight slap It's probably because I know
what it is and I can. I can hear it
bothers me, but yeah, I'll be all right. Just listen.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
You can't hear this, yes, take comfort, Yes, take comfort
that the listeners won't hear any of it. But I
do hear what you're saying. And it's starting to bother
me too now. And I don't remember it being this
bad on on the old system. So maybe some tweaks are.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Just turning around the stage Ario speed wagons behind you,
setting their marks. They're opening up a ride the Storm.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Mountain Detroit I saw.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
I went to a show recently at Saint Andrews and
I got to see their new stage since the collapse.
Wasn't that last year on the stage at Saint Andrew's collapsed?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Oh, I think it was. I think it's more than
last year. We're just old and everything seems like last year.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
It wasn't that long ago. It was fairly recent history.
But it was the first show that I had been
to St. Andrews since since the stage collapse. Who was like,
people had.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
To have been on the stage at the time, right, Oh.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I know. It's if you're a rap band like that,
you win. You you you had a feather in your
cat you're a wrap or a metal act like you,
you you rocked. You either rocked the house down or
you fucking partied so hard.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
I think no matter what like you could take, you
would take pride in that. Even if you are a
pop act, You're like, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
You may not have torn so hard in the hip
hop community, you may not have torn the roof off,
but I think you're damn close. Yeah, if you collapse
the stage, we almost collapsed on the stage once, but
it was just far too small to have all of
us on it.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Well I'm getting Yeah, we're getting a lot of tops.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Did you ever play at the Third Street Saloon in Detroit? Hello,
everything sounds normal than our headphone testing.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
It sounds fantastic in that phone. Yes, check check check
check check check.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Chickeny check, chickeny China, the Chinese chicken.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Hello, chuck check check. M let's see is right around
like it seems to happen.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Two minutes into starting to record, it starts to crack all.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Woken Vegan Radio. We're talking about how sad we are
that they're killing cows. Vegan Emo Radio.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah, no, it'd be welcome to the Peda podcast. Yeah,
I'm your host.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Stefan and I could just go with Chris because it's
just androgynist if you go that way.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, but they don't know how you spell it.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
That's right, that's leave guessing a r y ske My
girlfriend's family calls her Chris when we go over there.
Oh my god, I am always so confused.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
You gotta get a nickname like I do at work.
They call me Red.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Tell them to call me Mike.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Hancho read the cad man.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Okay, maybe it's like an old car and it just
needs to settle into a groove. How come that waveform
is so much smaller on the audio track?
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I don't know, idk man I DeKay like it wouldn't.
Wasn't the volume of it controlled over there too?
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Totally take your head and it's gonna stands.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Yeah, right.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
You three minutes, I didn't hear any pops or crackles
or snaps or any breakfast cereal of any kind. I
didn't hear any count choculas or blueberries or no franken berries,
no frankin berries, check check check check, no kicks, no checks,
(06:32):
no life.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
No Chris picks, Chris pick. Remember they were like hexagonal
checks I fucking.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Loved Chris Picks. Something about the texture on well.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Yeah, because they got filled with milk. They were the best.
They held the milk. They held milk better than checks.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
That's that's probably it, isn't it. Yeah, it was the
it would get the milk would get trapped in that
they don't make crisis.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
It was like a milk net.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
There's some device I could tell us.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
And breakfast cereal is not very popular these days.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
No, because it is fucking terrible for you.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Yeah, people are catching up to that fact that like,
wait a minute.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Okay, totally still get Crisp Picks. By the way, I still.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Yeah, Like, I mean, my attitude is like a mother fucker.
It's it's like it knows, like, oh, you want to
start recording something. Oh you're not just fucking around check
one two? Are you gonna go totally robot on us?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
It doesn't matter. I can't live with us. It's gotta end.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Uh, let's just try this then be an episode recorded
in pieces and fits and starts.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
This delay is a bit much in the headphones, but
down here, oh it's back. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Yeah, you wouldn't hear it on on my voice. You'd
only hear it on your own. But them dropping support
for the direct monitoring software that device, there's no way
around it, have to monitor.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
They're like, listen, this is twenty years old. To stop
the madness.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Yeah, remember when there was another mixer that you had
to bring up connected directly into that. Yeah, that's what
that did, allowed you to direct monitor. And I think
that like computers have just gotten fast enough where they're like,
that's not a big enough concern for them to support anymore.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
So I'm watching on Netflix. They have the show with
Robert de Niro on it.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Is it called Zero Day?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Zero Day? Yeah, it's not bad. It's a pretty fun show.
I think you dig it.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I have heard it's good and I've heard it's terrible.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
It's both and here's why. So, like it's a pretty
good drama. It's an interesting story. They do a good
job of, like this is a story about like a
massive cyber attack that takes out everything in the US
at once, A good job about like I don't know,
(09:02):
like laying out what that would really look like in
real life. That feels real. I think what's really rubbing
people the wrong way?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
You got to get and it's not.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
All of it, But the first two episodes have a
couple parts where it feels like Robert de Niro wrote
the lines. He's like, you know, we just got to
get back to trusting each other and there's too much
disinformation and the the shit that he's been spouting lately,
where you're just like.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yes, like they went to his Twitter and yeah, wrote
some lines based on it. It was.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
It seems like it because it's a super political show.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Like de Niro plays an ex president who was brought
in to help with this crisis because he's seen as
like such a rock and it would be like, you know,
if a massive terrorist attack happened and Trump said, I
can't imagine this happening, But Trump said, hey, Obama, can
you come help us out and lead up a commission
to get to the bottom of it.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
In w Right, the guy was actually, yeah, president during
in terrorist That might be more feasible for Trump, but
less so for w I think, Man, I'm Peyton, Yeah, yeah, Peyton,
I'm texting Michelle trying to be retired over here.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
He's just having fun. Yeah, he is having fun too,
and good for him. Probably the best post president life
of any former president.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Jimmy Carter all went to work and stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yeah, I know he was too hard on himself, taking
it easy.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Reagan had no idea he wasn't president. Ragan probably just
thought he was president.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Lived to a ripe old age.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
He did just four weeks ago, but I imagine most
of that and time was pretty pretty ripe.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Philly owns a world record for longest hospice stay in
hospice for like three years.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
I you know, I'd like to live to one hundred,
but that doesn't mean I also wish to That's like
the monkeys paw, I wish right, like you will live
one hundred, but the last twenty years will be in
a lazy boy.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Keep think of the grandma's boy. The things you have seen,
World War one, world War two, I don't remember that,
the automobile toupakh. Yeah, that's right, but he saw all
those things. Actually, he also got to see the internet,
social media.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Wait, who Denario give me?
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Carter?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah, I was like, who are we talking about now?
And he saw that shit. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Denio is good in it. If you buy, If you
buy that, Denio could be president.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Nobody. I don't want to say that.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
They don't do a good job of portraying politicians because
nobody does. I mean, the examples are few and far between,
and especially on television, like newscasters and politicians I think
are too close to what actors, directors and producers are
doing that they can't They're too close to it to
(11:58):
understand it right, you know, so they have a hard
time portraying.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Now like Dan which controversies noted, I think Spacey did
a good job on House of Cards.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Spacey did a great job that. No, yes, that is
a that is a great example, like.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
I used to Pete Holmes device there by the way.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Yes, yes, controversy noted. But I think in general that
whole show, like everybody felt real. Yeah, everybody felt like
a real politician, all the politicians, all these they do
have a They have a newscaster very like conspiracy theory
slinging independent newscasters, played by the brilliant Dan Stevens.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah, he's that type of guy. He's totally selling so.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
We know who he's supposed to be.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
No, well, he's not jacked, he's not like but he
you know, he's selling things like merchandising is.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
No, I'm talking about uh uh aj mister info wars himself.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Do the Bone Broth. Yeah, yeah, but that that type
of ship.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
But there's also there's this like mystery of like you
think that that de Niro's character is like, well, I
don't want to give.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Anything away if you want to watch in on it.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
No, he's just like he's having trouble, like he hears
things and he gets disoriented.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
I was getting old, he's yeah, but it's not. Oh no,
it's it's the dealing with it part, Like what I
guess what of my missing it.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Turns out to be an outside source that's like affecting
him that he's not getting seen Aisle, he's not hearing things,
he's not going.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Crazy gas lit.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Yeah, he's getting being gas lit with.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
In the first two episodes too, it tries, it tries
to bring in too much of like Ripped from the Headlines.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
I hate those shows.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
It doesn't lean on it for its story, and once
it gets past that, once you really get into like
the the mystery behind this cyber attack and all the
political intrigue and everybody's secrets, that stuff kind of washes away.
If you can get to episode three without like being
totally annoyed at it, then you'll probably have a decent
(14:12):
ride on your hands.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
It's fun.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
It does kind of illustrate to me, like de Niro
is considered like a good actor, right, one of the greats,
but he just doesn't have range.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Didn't you have to buy that DeNiro could be that guy?
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Right at this point? Robert de Niro just plays Robert
de Niro.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Got Jesse Plemmons in it, you know that is he's
the guy who he got famous on TV for shooting
a ten year old in Breaking Bad when they're big heist,
they're chemical train heist is spotted by a kid on
a BMX bike and they don't know what to do
with him and Jesse what was his character's name, I
(14:54):
can't remember, but yeah, he was just some guy that
they hired to help out with this and seemed a
little weird and he was the guy who shot the
ten year old.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Neat he's really good and he's jacked in this.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
He was all he was like, I's been kind of
a little pudgy and uh, I almost didn't recognize him
at first. He is not only just slimmed down, but
till they got Jack, Like, did somebody cast you in
a Marvel movie.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Right, I saw where they shot a thirty five year old.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
But there's a lot of places where it was yours
in Dallas.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
In Dallas, Oh, you saw the to d Lee plaz
You went to dh speaking of political intrigue, and I
felt weird attacking presidents.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Going to a tourist spot of where somebody died, if
that made any sense, Like going to it, you're like,
I'm going to see where somebody fucking died. But at
the same time, like you get there and you're thinking
about the historical significance, like this last time they took
out the king man, he was right here now and
to night and now I had had this stupid guns
(15:58):
and Roses lyric in my head the whole time the
Civil War really in my first in my first memories,
they shot Kennedy.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
There's like a million songs about John Kennedy. I picked
the guns and Roses one.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
I mean, you could have gone with we didn't start
the fire right right, because it just head like because
I would have been my head, My head would be
like do you have gate bone Away?
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Jack gate bone Away. Memories were sixteen years after Kennedy
got shot. Like he was long gone by the time
I showed up.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
What are you saying that you didn't start this fire?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Right?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Is that what your claim?
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Is?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
There?
Speaker 3 (16:36):
But the building's still there? That's crazy. It's still there.
It's been updated like it's still kept up the top floor.
All the windows are boarded up because I guess there's
a museum up there and ship.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Like Kennedy Museum.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
There's a museum in the sixth floor of the books repository.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Yes, but they don't want you. But they don't want
you looking out the window.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Well, if you can't have the experience of looking out
the window, right, then what is the museum there?
Speaker 3 (17:03):
First of all, I want to see if I can
made that shot. Second of all, exactly, Second of all,
why don't you want to sucking out the window? Well,
it's a Bill Hicks joke, right, so you can't go.
There's no fucking way, right.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
That would be great if they just had like an
arcade gun set up right, just like Carnival Carnival.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
It wouldn't even have to be a video. It would
just be.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Set up at a slight disc. Anything comes in the
stretch limbo. I remember Hogan TALLI was buy over over again.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Remember Hogan's ally that they flipped said, one comes by,
it looks like Kennedy. You gotta see if you can
hit it.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Yeah, but yeah, and also it would have to be
a video game because you'd have to steer the bullet
right like you have. It would do bullet You'd fire
the shot, and then it would go into like bullet
vision where you'd follow the bullets path go through Kennedy,
then back out and hit the guy that was hanging
(18:05):
off the back or whatever.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
And now, as far as grassy knolls are concerned, I'm
not sure if I was behind the one or if
I was looking across the street at it.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Yeah, there are too many grassy knolls to know for sure.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Well, because where the street now it's it's where it was.
It turns into an on ramp that goes onto a
freeway the stretch of street that he was on. So
I'm thinking I was like behind the knoll based on
where the books positor was, I'm thinking I was standing
on the street. I was standing behind the knoll.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
The legend nol you don't know what you got till
it's gone.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
They paved the grassy knoll and put up an on ramp.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
No, I think it's still there, because no, that street
is still like you look at that street, that's the
street from the Zuppruter film, Like, I think that street
is untouched. It now just ends in a different like
it continues on into a different spot.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Okay, So in Dallas, were you down.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
There convention for our business or electrical grid?
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Hold up while you're down there? Yes, be able to
get poorn direction?
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah, my girlfriends are there. You go, it was an issue.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Just check an a applicable for that one.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
How calm you? We scream cultural appropriation.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
When you orgasm.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
With everything, we scream cultural appropriation. But with cowboy cultural
culture go nuts.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
You can make fun of cowboys.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Every no, everybody, no no. Everyone can buy a cowboy hat.
Everyone can buy a set of cowboy boots. Everyone can
buy a fucking denim jacket, like everyone down there, Like
I refuse to take part in the cowboy cosplay that
everybody does when you go down to Texas. Like, I
don't get it.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
But that's like it's a regional taste kind of thing, right,
I mean I know it's a better associated with like
like trust.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Me, me and my lady wanted to there were many
stores we could have stopped in to, ran the credit
card and came out looking like fucking yeehaw.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Oh yeah, Like.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
There's stores here in Michigan where you can get all
that shit too, Like I just don't. I would go
full out, like all out Nudi suit with neon light,
like he would pull the chain and like light it up.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Be the guy walking around with a blow up horse.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Yes, Like, hey, if we're all gonna play drag, like,
let's do it. Let's be entertaining, right. My problem is
in the cowboy drag. It's how boring you are with it.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Hey, if we can all still play cowboys, can we
still play Indians?
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Because I just know because that was the oppressed ones,
Like you can play cowboy because cowboy is white male
American that's punching up.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Laying Indians is punching down.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
We'll see. Though. The restaurants centered around meat and booze.
Definitely enjoyed that one.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Bet you get it, like there was a steak, Oh yeah,
I had a d by that like a cow or
did they get into the like bison or anything.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
If it's if used to if it was on four
legs and you can kill it. It's down there. Alligator
not there, but I've had it. You can get alligat.
I've had alligator here. I've had alligator in Michigan. Yeah,
by our old house. Go up, Jefferson.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
What's the place called Fishbone? Yeah, Fishbones. I used to
go there for my birthday on a.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Some irregular basis. That was like the birthday spot. Some alligators.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
I had rid by that cheese sticks that were like,
oh yeah, they were thicker than your thumb.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
One place we went, first place we went to eat.
All they served was burgers and beer, but it was
craft beer and the burgers were all crazy. I mean yeah,
and the I don't know, maybe it's just the psychosomatic.
The meat down there just tasted different, like better.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yeah. Well, maybe it's more fresh. Don't they still have
like cattle ranches in Texas?
Speaker 3 (21:56):
I mean yes, We're most of our beef in this
country come from tech.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
So that probably has a lot to do with it.
They can get it deeper and fresher and less. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Saying if I did cocaine, I missed an opportunity when
I was down in Dallas.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
What if that was closer to the source.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Yeah, just so if I did cocaine. I missed an
opportunity when I went to Dallas being that close to
the source. A long way to go for a joke
that didn't land.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
I'm not following it at all. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (22:28):
A reference to something?
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Most cocaine comes from Mexico. The good ship comes from
South America, Mexico, Right, I see, yes, yes, Texas. Do
I need to get a map.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
It's a source of sorts. It's not a source of cocaine,
but it's a yeah. It's like saying your faucet is
a source of water. Technically true, but not really how
I think about where my water comes from? Like, I
don't think it's generated at the faucet head, although I
wonder how many people that's a question that if we did,
(22:59):
like Man on the Street interviews, I would ask where
where does your water come from? And see how far
back people could get before they got to it an
actual physical body.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Of water on the planet that we're draining.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Right.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Netflix has a few very watchable TV shows running point.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
You know about this one?
Speaker 4 (23:20):
No, it is a fictional take on the family that
owns the Lakers. Is there a family that owns the
Lakers family. Yeah, so there's a family that owns I forget.
They have some stupid name for their team, but they're
based in La. Yeah, it's I was gonna say, Jennifer Hudson,
not that one, Jennifer Coolidge. No other Hudson. Kate Hudson,
(23:46):
Kate Hudson, Yes, Kate Hudson almost famous. Yeah, Kate Hudson
plays She is the daughter, the only daughter of the family,
and it's being run.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
By it being run by uh me, yes, her dad
and then he died.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
No, no, dad doesn't die. Dad's already out of the picture.
There's three other brothers. Justin Thureau is the eldest brother
and the one that's running it. I guess he's only
gonna be I spoiled it for myself and saw that
he was six in six out of ten episodes, I
only get sixty percent thorrow in this one, which is
uh the full Throw.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah, I like I like my shows to be thoroughly
thorough heard.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
The ladies like the Full Throw.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Yeah, you know the leftovers.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
I think there's maybe like one or two episodes where
he wasn't in that, but anyway, he is, Uh, he's
the eldest and he's got a drug problem and gets
in this horrible car accident.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
But it's it's a very light show.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
It's a very obviously it's like so like the daughter
has all these ideas, like she loves basketball, but nobody
takes her seriously because she's a woman and they don't
let her be involved. She's also kind of a fuck
up when she was younger, and so they let her
run a charity.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Basically, was that really more?
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Like I haven't even seen it? Is there maybe really
more why they didn't let her run it?
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Like I saw this video though, like this, I work
with a younger guy. He's like twenty five, and he
watch his TikTok every now and then at work, and
he was watched his TikTok video and this dude was
talking about the theme of his TikTok video was like
his experience at TSA because his name sounds very ethnic
and he looks very ethnic. Right, sounds like a good premise, right, Right,
(25:34):
here's the problem. Dude's got hair down to his fucking
belly button and a full beard. I'm like, no, dude,
if this is your experience at TSA all the time,
has nothing to do with your crazy ethnic name and
the fact that you, yeah, that you look like it
looks like you have a pound of heroin shoved in
your ass. You're gonna stab the pilot on the flight.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
But yeah, it's not because you're uh where was he from?
Speaker 3 (26:03):
It it was some Eastern European sounded name or some
shing like that, like you'd be related to Borat or
some shit.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Okay, not that you're from Kazakhstan. It's that you look
like the Charles Manson of Kazic Stan.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
And he's like some twenty something who's speaking English like
me and you. Yeah, so, But I guess my whole
saying that was like I get the point they're trying
to make. Oh she does no basketball, she's a girl,
And I'm like, really, it's twenty twenty five. Who really
treats anybody like that anymore? Is it really more? Because
like you said, she was a fuck up. She can't
be trusted to give her this.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
No it That was part of it that like rubbed
me a little bit, because like Kate Hudson is like
she's the main character of this and they do a
little flashback where she had her bottoming out drug problems,
whatever the fuck, and justin Throw comes to her and says,
you're gonna do You're gonna come work for us, you know,
(26:58):
so that you have something to do, some sense of purpose.
And they start a charity and they have her run it,
and she's like when when you see her, she's been
running the charity for a while and she's miffed that
nobody will let her, you know, get involved in the
real business.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
I guess, I guess My point is the real life
application would be like, no, you were not not listening
to you because we don't think you know shit about basketball.
Listen to you because you're not listening because you're driving.
Fuck up. That's how would go down in the real world.
Like yeah, but uh, And there's this judgment based on
these zero seconds of the show I've seen. By the way,
everybody the show's.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
It's entertaining enough, it's kind of funny. The cast is
all really good, nobody, no problems there. It's produced like
a network show, and there's this constant musical soundtrack that's
running through everything, and you're just like, you don't have
to mickey mouse that this could just be a quick
(27:55):
little banter between two adults.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
It doesn't have to be burrow up. I don't need
to be have my hand held through it.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
If every episode is going to be like this, though,
then I'm out because you know, at the end of
the first episode it's you know, there's some unsolvable problem
and then like she gets an idea and the little
music cue goes off, and you know she comes at
it from a aspect that nobody's thought of before because
(28:27):
they're not a woman.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
That tells to me, like a sitcom trope of the
last forty years, only the woman can solve it right.
All the men around her are too fucking dumb.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
And if I was a woman, I'd be offended because
this is fucking magical Negro shit all over again. You know,
this is the this is Bagger Vance shit. You know now,
it's the magic voodoo that women possess, that the female
touch that was missing from the sport that females don't play.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Right, you have your own league.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Yeah, maybe it would be.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
One of the big stories of last year was about
a woman basketball player.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
I mean, Kate Hudson is fun, I said, most of
the cast is pretty fun. There's a little twist at
the end of the first episode that one over zealous
I don't know, grunt worker, towel boy, you know, clean,
shut up runner or whatever the fuck. The lowest on
the totem pole workers for the organization turns out to
(29:31):
be an illegitimate child of the now deceased owner and
could possibly, I would imagine, inherit a controlling interest in
this mythical team so.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
They can turn it into succession with titties.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Yeah. I mean, if you're looking for secession, there's none
of that here.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
This is all very light. This is there's no it's
not going to get tense like the Bear. It's not
going to be outrageous. If you like most of what
Shonda Rhimes has shout out for the last twenty years,
you'll probably like this one too. One of the producers
is what's the guy from Mad TV.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
That's a very open ended question. Yeah, yeah, I know,
Will Sassoke Baronholt, Michael mc yes, yeah, Ike Baron Holtz.
I guess he's one of the I think he's one
of the show creators, like he wrote on it. I
don't know if he's a producer or whatever, but he's involved.
I mean, they were like, there were some decent jokes
(30:33):
in there. It's just a it's a little ham fisted,
but that's just from watching one episode. It wasn't so
bad that I'm not gonna go back and watch another
and decide. Definitely not as engaging as the newest season
of Daredevil. Daredevil Born Again dropped two episodes. How many
more times are they gonna push Daredevil on you people?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
He's so great.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
Daredevil is like one of the greatest heroes, and he
has an amazing legacy he has. Daredell has been written
by some of the greatest writers in comics, including Brian
Michael Bendis and Frank Miller. Chipsidarski's run was fantastic. There's
just been so many fucking great Daredevil runs. And it
(31:20):
was just one stupid movie that really didn't understand anything
about the character and really just made like that Ben
Affleck movie was just a generic superhero movie, you know,
it was really just a reskinned Batman film.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
But this is the same.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
I mean, really, we've only had I want to say,
there was definitely I think like a Daredevil that popped
up on Incredible Hulk.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
The TV show.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
But from my knowledge, there's only two people that have
played Daredevil, and this isn't a complete reboot. It's just
still Charlie Cox, the guy who played him in the
last series. So this is kind of picking up a
new story the same characters, and it's taking from taken
from a lot. But definitely I can't remember the name
(32:05):
of the storyline, but Wilson Wilson Fisk, the Kingpin, runs
for mayor of New York and wins.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
And I want to say that this in the comics.
Maybe it didn't.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
I want to say it happened before Trump became president,
but maybe it didn't. I think, I'm I think I
might be wrong on that, but I think honestly that
Zero Day Hour show could zero day, zero day hour,
zero hour, zero day what was it called zero.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Days whatever the de Niro.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Zero hour was in high school?
Speaker 4 (32:40):
Okay, whatever the What the Zero de Niro Show could
learn Zero de Niro is they could learn a thing
or two from the Daredevil Show and how to put
references to modern politics in your show without.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Without speechifying it.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
I always think of like, every time I get that feeling,
I think of the old monster movies I used to
watch in black and white, you know, on the Creature feature,
and it would be, you know, some giant ants that
popped out on the ground because they were doing some
nuclear testing and had buried material under there. And then
(33:19):
when they finally get eradicate the ants, there's always some
lab coated scientists. It was like it was man's hubrious
that caused this, and if we continue down this path,
who knows what horrors will await us. They just the
message that just comes. They just plastered across the screen.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
There's no missing it.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
If the meat had instinct in me kicks in that goes,
oh this is this school. Yeah, I'm out. I forget
what that's from, but that's like that's the exact word
for like the instinct that I get, like, oh, yeah,
I'm trying to be entertained here with there's a way
to do it, and there's a way to not do it,
and the way you're doing it is making me want
to leave.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Yeah, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
I didn't feel any of that, And maybe it's partly
because I'm so in the bag for this kind of
shit when it's done right, the superhero shit. And I'm
definitely I mean, Charlie Cox and Vincent Dianafrio are both
fantastic actors and they've proven this well, you know, outside
of any kind of superhero shit, and the show is
(34:25):
kind of stripped down, you know. There's a tragedy that
takes Matt out of his element and then a little
bit of a time jump, and so we don't have
his usual cast of characters Karen Page and Froggy Nelson.
It's Matt on his own and the Kingpin on his
own too. He's having problems with his relationship with his
wife Vanessa. I guess getting shot in the head had
(34:47):
a lot to do with that. It's two very strong
figures who have completely lost their support structure, you know,
the friends and the loved ones that were around them
to keep them in check. Because both of these, both
Kingpin and Daredevil, possess a lot of power and if
you know, they could do a lot of damage with it,
(35:09):
and that's you know they are, but they have this balance.
Part of that for also for Daredevil is his religion,
his belief in God, and there hasn't been any talk
of that in this which I'm I'm kind of surprised by,
but I don't know, I imagine it would come back
like he's going to you know, go back and rEFInd
(35:32):
his religion or be like Reborn.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
I mean, you're you're.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Making a show about a superhero who famously actually believes
in God, not thor but like a God that you know,
most Americans, well most Americans who believe in God would
recognize the man. And then and you call your show Reborn,
which has definite religious overtones, and just in that one
(35:57):
word there, and it.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Just came out, and it just came out. Yeah, you know,
like this week.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
But did the show just start this week?
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Yeah? Bet Tuesday that.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Wlent just started? Yeah, yesterday? So I mean yeah, Reborn.
Lent in the Catholic Church, l is the beginning of
the sea. Lent ends with Easter, which is the resurrection
of Jesus Christ. Reborn.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Okay, yeah, so the timing was probably yeah, yeah, yeah,
probably no coincidence because it's not like it was hot
on the heels of like some other show.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
They don't stitch.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
How many episodes are there?
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Did they tell you eight or ten?
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Eight would end the week of Easter?
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Yeah? Yeah, I bet you're right. I bet you're right.
It's interesting.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
So yeah, they can't completely ignore it, but I know
I was they dropped two episodes of it, and man,
it's really good.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Way haven't intense its, haven't regularly gone to church in
twenty seven years. I'm just an advertising take notes religion.
Just remember shit, I haven't regularly studied for.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
It's been at least that I watched a baseball game.
But I can still tell you about Alan Trammel and
Kurt Gibson.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Well, now I think we're getting into what's imprinted on
your mind when you're younger.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
No, I was just saying, hey, if you're in marketing,
take notes from religion. I haven't practiced longer than I practiced,
and I still remember.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
I think I think Apple's way ahead of you on that.
Right as we sit here with our many devices.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
Yeah, one, two, there's like four Apple devices. I can see.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
We each have an iPad and iPhone in front of us.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Yeah, my Apple laptops at work.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
Yeah, I'm seriously considered if if it's a new computer,
if computer problems persist, I've had very good luck with
my Apple.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
I mean, I got my beat here boats upstairs, like,
I mean, oh.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Yeah, those are Apple, aren't they now? Aren't they? Now?
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (37:56):
You know who else is in running point? Hanks yeah,
good old Chester. He is, like, there's there he is.
You can see him m hm thinking a selfie. He's
fucking jacked.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Man.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
He's pretty funny in it too. Does he have all
those tattoos in real life?
Speaker 3 (38:15):
I'm not sure, Like he just must.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
He's gotta be like the biggest chod in real life too,
because he plays him so well.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
He's not acting thanks.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
Plays Travis Bugs, heavily tattooed, aspiring rapper and top player
on the team. He actually raps on the show.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
In one scene, he made a go of trying to
be a actual rapper.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
In twenty fifteen, he spoke publicly about dealing with substance
abuse and apologize for.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
His use of the N word.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Sorry about that?
Speaker 2 (38:47):
He says that, yeah, oh my god, he.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
Admitted, I basically get to be a slightly exaggerated version
of myself.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Wow, because your character, uh what was his stupid name again?
Bugs is a huge asshole and douchebag.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Well, at least he's got a sense of humor about it.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Yeah, we see no misogynists.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
He's a giant tool.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
Here's another quote from I Know like my name's Ben
in the media about me like going missing or getting
kidnapped or something.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
I just want to let you know I've been in rehab.
I'm doing Oh yeah, damn good.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Oh yeah I remember that. Yeah, that's from like ten
years ago.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Yeah. That was from twenty fifteen when he apologized for
using the N word.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Yeah, it was like an Instagram post or some shit.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Other controversies followed since he's inexplicably spoke in a Jamaican
accent on the Golden Globes red carpet.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
In twenty twenty, he did the opposite of apologize for that.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
Really and released a rap single titled White Boy Summer,
both of which found him accused of cultural appropriation.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
I was White Boy Summer cultural appropriation.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
When your parents are Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson, Like, yeah, man,
are we.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Really still calling white people who wrap be culturally.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Because he was doing the uh, he was doing the
the No, he was doing the Jamaican accents. Yeah, And
he was doing the song and he was doing it
in interviews and stuff too.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
It was his thing. Like he went full on vanilla ice.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
He went yeah, like Adrian Brody on that episode of
SNL when he introduced what was it, shaggy or Sean Paul.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
Yeah, ship with Gene Hackman is weird. They still don't
know what's uh, what's happened to him?
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Right?
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Like this turns out no.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
Gas leak, Like there was maybe a little bit of
a trickle coming out of the oven, but they're like
nothing that would just like make all over?
Speaker 3 (40:49):
At what point do we think suicide packed?
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Yeah? But why like that?
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Why not? He was ninety five, she was in her
upper sixties. Maybe she was fucking done. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
I think there was one guy, like a corner who
just was just shooting from the hip on it. But
it made sense to me as far as like being
the closest to a reasonable explanation. One of them died
and the other one during the shock of finding the
(41:21):
other one dead and trying to get them help, they
died like their heart just gave on them. So like
maybe something happened with his wife and she like died
suddenly had a stroke or something, and Gene Hackman found
her and panicked and then had a heart doesn't explain
what happened to the dogs, Well, the dog was the
(41:41):
dog was created, the dog, the dogs starved to death.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
Yeah, then the other dogs were just wandering around. They
were fine, we're created dog.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
Couldn't bring the dog any food? Well that's what like
the created one. Yeah, maybe the dogs should have brought
the created one some food.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Well those dogs are like fuck that dog were Oh,
we made it. They're animals, so they rolled it like sorry, son, Yeah,
it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
I mean, I know, like he's been retired from acting,
so it's not like anything was stolen from us, the
people who don't know him but just appreciated his work.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
I brought it up to my girlfriend. She said, who
is that the hack man? I said, you heard me,
Coltrane probably.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
Like I can't think of who since him has gotten
so prominent, such prominent acting roles.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
Looking like an average dude, you know, I got that thing.
He wasn't handsome.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
He just looks like a yeah, he looks like a
regular dude who is kind of handsome, maybe a little tall.
But he wasn't like typical Hollywood good looks, chizzled face
type of guy. He was like, he looked like a
character actor, but he got to play Alex Luthor because
he was that good.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
Wasn't he the guy in the Posidon Adventure?
Speaker 4 (42:54):
Going?
Speaker 3 (42:55):
How many more?
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Lord, Yes, how many more? Yeah? Side an Adventure is great?
Have you ever seen that?
Speaker 3 (43:01):
Yeah, definitely makes me want to go on a cruise.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
Yeah yeah, the whole ship upside down and shit, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
Yeah me, we're all Tanne bombs end of list.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Oh yeah, he's fantastic on that.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
You heard me? Coltrane good for the famous jeans, right.
Gene wild was gone. He was gone when we were kids.
Jean Jean Wilder's dead. Jean Stadium. Well, no, I'm talking
about Gene like a dude.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Nail jeans.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
Well, Eugene lovey, but he don't go by Gene this.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Jean Clark still alive.
Speaker 3 (43:35):
Now I'm going to look do Genes different? Jean Clark enough,
wasn't there Jean Jean the Dancing Machine.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
I guess it would just be in the birds. But
he had a solo yeh.
Speaker 4 (43:46):
He wrote most of the band's best known originals from
this period, including I Feel a Whole Lot Better If
you Don't Care about Time, eight Miles High, and Set
You Free This Time.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
I guess he didn't have much of a solo career.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
Blue Man Rep cover band. We're all gonna dress up
like various Gene Hackman characters. We're gonna call it blue jeans.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
They all be really sad.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
That'd be. It'd still be in the blue makeup. But
just as Gene Hackman characters wouldn't be like the guy
from Hoosiers.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
That's one I never seen, the.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Side adventure guy. We're all tannembaumb Is hoos Hoosiers.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Is it a basketball meving sports movie?
Speaker 3 (44:25):
Sports movie? Yes, okay, I mean I suppose they could
all be sad. Just depends how meta you want to
go on this blue jeans concept.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
I think, yeah, I think if you're gonna do it,
you need to go all the way.
Speaker 3 (44:34):
So they're wearing blue, they're wearing jeans as well, it's
part of their outfit.
Speaker 4 (44:38):
I think they should be blue. They should be wearing jeans.
They should be sad. They should all be jeans.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
And well they all have or so Geen Hackan character.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
One's Geen Autry, one's Gene Hackman, one's Gene Wilder.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
You know, well it's Gene Jeanie. You don't know if
it was a man or a woman, right, it's Bowie.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
You don't know.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Yeah, well, I don't have anything else for tonight. Good
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I went to a show recently at Saint Andrews and
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It wasn't that long ago. It was fairly recent history.
But it was the first show that I had been
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Yeah, no, it'd be welcome to the Peda podcast. Yeah,
I'm your host.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Stefan and I could just go with Chris because it's
just androgynist if you go that way.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, but they don't know how you spell it.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
That's right, that's leave guessing a r y ske My
girlfriend's family calls her Chris when we go over there.
Oh my god, I am always so confused.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
You gotta get a nickname like I do at work.
They call me Red.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Tell them to call me Mike.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Hancho read the cad man.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Okay, maybe it's like an old car and it just
needs to settle into a groove. How come that waveform
is so much smaller on the audio track?
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I don't know, idk man I DeKay like it wouldn't.
Wasn't the volume of it controlled over there too?
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Totally take your head and it's gonna stands.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Yeah, right.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
You three minutes, I didn't hear any pops or crackles
or snaps or any breakfast cereal of any kind. I
didn't hear any count choculas or blueberries or no franken berries,
no frankin berries, check check check check, no kicks, no checks,
(06:32):
no life.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
No Chris picks, Chris pick. Remember they were like hexagonal
checks I fucking.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Loved Chris Picks. Something about the texture on well.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Yeah, because they got filled with milk. They were the best.
They held the milk. They held milk better than checks.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
That's that's probably it, isn't it. Yeah, it was the
it would get the milk would get trapped in that
they don't make crisis.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
It was like a milk net.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
There's some device I could tell us.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
And breakfast cereal is not very popular these days.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
No, because it is fucking terrible for you.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Yeah, people are catching up to that fact that like,
wait a minute.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Okay, totally still get Crisp Picks. By the way, I still.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Yeah, Like, I mean, my attitude is like a mother fucker.
It's it's like it knows, like, oh, you want to
start recording something. Oh you're not just fucking around check
one two? Are you gonna go totally robot on us?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
It doesn't matter. I can't live with us. It's gotta end.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Uh, let's just try this then be an episode recorded
in pieces and fits and starts.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
This delay is a bit much in the headphones, but
down here, oh it's back. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Yeah, you wouldn't hear it on on my voice. You'd
only hear it on your own. But them dropping support
for the direct monitoring software that device, there's no way
around it, have to monitor.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
They're like, listen, this is twenty years old. To stop
the madness.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Yeah, remember when there was another mixer that you had
to bring up connected directly into that. Yeah, that's what
that did, allowed you to direct monitor. And I think
that like computers have just gotten fast enough where they're like,
that's not a big enough concern for them to support anymore.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
So I'm watching on Netflix. They have the show with
Robert de Niro on it.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Is it called Zero Day?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Zero Day? Yeah, it's not bad. It's a pretty fun show.
I think you dig it.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I have heard it's good and I've heard it's terrible.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
It's both and here's why. So, like it's a pretty
good drama. It's an interesting story. They do a good
job of, like this is a story about like a
massive cyber attack that takes out everything in the US
at once, A good job about like I don't know,
(09:02):
like laying out what that would really look like in
real life. That feels real. I think what's really rubbing
people the wrong way?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
You got to get and it's not.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
All of it, But the first two episodes have a
couple parts where it feels like Robert de Niro wrote
the lines. He's like, you know, we just got to
get back to trusting each other and there's too much
disinformation and the the shit that he's been spouting lately,
where you're just like.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yes, like they went to his Twitter and yeah, wrote
some lines based on it. It was.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
It seems like it because it's a super political show.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Like de Niro plays an ex president who was brought
in to help with this crisis because he's seen as
like such a rock and it would be like, you know,
if a massive terrorist attack happened and Trump said, I
can't imagine this happening, But Trump said, hey, Obama, can
you come help us out and lead up a commission
to get to the bottom of it.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
In w Right, the guy was actually, yeah, president during
in terrorist That might be more feasible for Trump, but
less so for w I think, Man, I'm Peyton, Yeah, yeah, Peyton,
I'm texting Michelle trying to be retired over here.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
He's just having fun. Yeah, he is having fun too,
and good for him. Probably the best post president life
of any former president.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Jimmy Carter all went to work and stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yeah, I know he was too hard on himself, taking
it easy.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Reagan had no idea he wasn't president. Ragan probably just
thought he was president.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Lived to a ripe old age.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
He did just four weeks ago, but I imagine most
of that and time was pretty pretty ripe.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Philly owns a world record for longest hospice stay in
hospice for like three years.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
I you know, I'd like to live to one hundred,
but that doesn't mean I also wish to That's like
the monkeys paw, I wish right, like you will live
one hundred, but the last twenty years will be in
a lazy boy.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Keep think of the grandma's boy. The things you have seen,
World War one, world War two, I don't remember that,
the automobile toupakh. Yeah, that's right, but he saw all
those things. Actually, he also got to see the internet,
social media.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Wait, who Denario give me?
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Carter?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah, I was like, who are we talking about now?
And he saw that shit. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Denio is good in it. If you buy, If you
buy that, Denio could be president.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Nobody. I don't want to say that.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
They don't do a good job of portraying politicians because
nobody does. I mean, the examples are few and far between,
and especially on television, like newscasters and politicians I think
are too close to what actors, directors and producers are
doing that they can't They're too close to it to
(11:58):
understand it right, you know, so they have a hard
time portraying.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Now like Dan which controversies noted, I think Spacey did
a good job on House of Cards.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Spacey did a great job that. No, yes, that is
a that is a great example, like.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
I used to Pete Holmes device there by the way.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Yes, yes, controversy noted. But I think in general that
whole show, like everybody felt real. Yeah, everybody felt like
a real politician, all the politicians, all these they do
have a They have a newscaster very like conspiracy theory
slinging independent newscasters, played by the brilliant Dan Stevens.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah, he's that type of guy. He's totally selling so.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
We know who he's supposed to be.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
No, well, he's not jacked, he's not like but he
you know, he's selling things like merchandising is.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
No, I'm talking about uh uh aj mister info wars himself.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Do the Bone Broth. Yeah, yeah, but that that type
of ship.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
But there's also there's this like mystery of like you
think that that de Niro's character is like, well, I
don't want to give.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Anything away if you want to watch in on it.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
No, he's just like he's having trouble, like he hears
things and he gets disoriented.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
I was getting old, he's yeah, but it's not. Oh no,
it's it's the dealing with it part, Like what I
guess what of my missing it.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Turns out to be an outside source that's like affecting
him that he's not getting seen Aisle, he's not hearing things,
he's not going.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Crazy gas lit.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Yeah, he's getting being gas lit with.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
In the first two episodes too, it tries, it tries
to bring in too much of like Ripped from the Headlines.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
I hate those shows.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
It doesn't lean on it for its story, and once
it gets past that, once you really get into like
the the mystery behind this cyber attack and all the
political intrigue and everybody's secrets, that stuff kind of washes away.
If you can get to episode three without like being
totally annoyed at it, then you'll probably have a decent
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ride on your hands.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
It's fun.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
It does kind of illustrate to me, like de Niro
is considered like a good actor, right, one of the greats,
but he just doesn't have range.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Didn't you have to buy that DeNiro could be that guy?
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Right at this point? Robert de Niro just plays Robert
de Niro.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Got Jesse Plemmons in it, you know that is he's
the guy who he got famous on TV for shooting
a ten year old in Breaking Bad when they're big heist,
they're chemical train heist is spotted by a kid on
a BMX bike and they don't know what to do
with him and Jesse what was his character's name, I
(14:54):
can't remember, but yeah, he was just some guy that
they hired to help out with this and seemed a
little weird and he was the guy who shot the
ten year old.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Neat he's really good and he's jacked in this.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
He was all he was like, I's been kind of
a little pudgy and uh, I almost didn't recognize him
at first. He is not only just slimmed down, but
till they got Jack, Like, did somebody cast you in
a Marvel movie.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Right, I saw where they shot a thirty five year old.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
But there's a lot of places where it was yours
in Dallas.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
In Dallas, Oh, you saw the to d Lee plaz
You went to dh speaking of political intrigue, and I
felt weird attacking presidents.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Going to a tourist spot of where somebody died, if
that made any sense, Like going to it, you're like,
I'm going to see where somebody fucking died. But at
the same time, like you get there and you're thinking
about the historical significance, like this last time they took
out the king man, he was right here now and
to night and now I had had this stupid guns
(15:58):
and Roses lyric in my head the whole time the
Civil War really in my first in my first memories,
they shot Kennedy.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
There's like a million songs about John Kennedy. I picked
the guns and Roses one.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
I mean, you could have gone with we didn't start
the fire right right, because it just head like because
I would have been my head, My head would be
like do you have gate bone Away?
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Jack gate bone Away. Memories were sixteen years after Kennedy
got shot. Like he was long gone by the time
I showed up.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
What are you saying that you didn't start this fire?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Right?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Is that what your claim?
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Is?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
There?
Speaker 3 (16:36):
But the building's still there? That's crazy. It's still there.
It's been updated like it's still kept up the top floor.
All the windows are boarded up because I guess there's
a museum up there and ship.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Like Kennedy Museum.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
There's a museum in the sixth floor of the books repository.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Yes, but they don't want you. But they don't want
you looking out the window.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Well, if you can't have the experience of looking out
the window, right, then what is the museum there?
Speaker 3 (17:03):
First of all, I want to see if I can
made that shot. Second of all, exactly, Second of all,
why don't you want to sucking out the window? Well,
it's a Bill Hicks joke, right, so you can't go.
There's no fucking way, right.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
That would be great if they just had like an
arcade gun set up right, just like Carnival Carnival.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
It wouldn't even have to be a video. It would
just be.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Set up at a slight disc. Anything comes in the
stretch limbo. I remember Hogan TALLI was buy over over again.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Remember Hogan's ally that they flipped said, one comes by,
it looks like Kennedy. You gotta see if you can
hit it.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Yeah, but yeah, and also it would have to be
a video game because you'd have to steer the bullet
right like you have. It would do bullet You'd fire
the shot, and then it would go into like bullet
vision where you'd follow the bullets path go through Kennedy,
then back out and hit the guy that was hanging
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off the back or whatever.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
And now, as far as grassy knolls are concerned, I'm
not sure if I was behind the one or if
I was looking across the street at it.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Yeah, there are too many grassy knolls to know for sure.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Well, because where the street now it's it's where it was.
It turns into an on ramp that goes onto a
freeway the stretch of street that he was on. So
I'm thinking I was like behind the knoll based on
where the books positor was, I'm thinking I was standing
on the street. I was standing behind the knoll.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
The legend nol you don't know what you got till
it's gone.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
They paved the grassy knoll and put up an on ramp.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
No, I think it's still there, because no, that street
is still like you look at that street, that's the
street from the Zuppruter film, Like, I think that street
is untouched. It now just ends in a different like
it continues on into a different spot.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Okay, So in Dallas, were you down.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
There convention for our business or electrical grid?
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Hold up while you're down there? Yes, be able to
get poorn direction?
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah, my girlfriends are there. You go, it was an issue.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Just check an a applicable for that one.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
How calm you? We scream cultural appropriation.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
When you orgasm.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
With everything, we scream cultural appropriation. But with cowboy cultural
culture go nuts.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
You can make fun of cowboys.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Every no, everybody, no no. Everyone can buy a cowboy hat.
Everyone can buy a set of cowboy boots. Everyone can
buy a fucking denim jacket, like everyone down there, Like
I refuse to take part in the cowboy cosplay that
everybody does when you go down to Texas. Like, I
don't get it.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
But that's like it's a regional taste kind of thing, right,
I mean I know it's a better associated with like
like trust.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Me, me and my lady wanted to there were many
stores we could have stopped in to, ran the credit
card and came out looking like fucking yeehaw.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Oh yeah, Like.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
There's stores here in Michigan where you can get all
that shit too, Like I just don't. I would go
full out, like all out Nudi suit with neon light,
like he would pull the chain and like light it up.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Be the guy walking around with a blow up horse.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Yes, Like, hey, if we're all gonna play drag, like,
let's do it. Let's be entertaining, right. My problem is
in the cowboy drag. It's how boring you are with it.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Hey, if we can all still play cowboys, can we
still play Indians?
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Because I just know because that was the oppressed ones,
Like you can play cowboy because cowboy is white male
American that's punching up.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Laying Indians is punching down.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
We'll see. Though. The restaurants centered around meat and booze.
Definitely enjoyed that one.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Bet you get it, like there was a steak, Oh yeah,
I had a d by that like a cow or
did they get into the like bison or anything.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
If it's if used to if it was on four
legs and you can kill it. It's down there. Alligator
not there, but I've had it. You can get alligat.
I've had alligator here. I've had alligator in Michigan. Yeah,
by our old house. Go up, Jefferson.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
What's the place called Fishbone? Yeah, Fishbones. I used to
go there for my birthday on a.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Some irregular basis. That was like the birthday spot. Some alligators.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
I had rid by that cheese sticks that were like,
oh yeah, they were thicker than your thumb.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
One place we went, first place we went to eat.
All they served was burgers and beer, but it was
craft beer and the burgers were all crazy. I mean yeah,
and the I don't know, maybe it's just the psychosomatic.
The meat down there just tasted different, like better.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yeah. Well, maybe it's more fresh. Don't they still have
like cattle ranches in Texas?
Speaker 3 (21:56):
I mean yes, We're most of our beef in this
country come from tech.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
So that probably has a lot to do with it.
They can get it deeper and fresher and less. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Saying if I did cocaine, I missed an opportunity when
I was down in Dallas.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
What if that was closer to the source.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Yeah, just so if I did cocaine. I missed an
opportunity when I went to Dallas being that close to
the source. A long way to go for a joke
that didn't land.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
I'm not following it at all. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (22:28):
A reference to something?
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Most cocaine comes from Mexico. The good ship comes from
South America, Mexico, Right, I see, yes, yes, Texas. Do
I need to get a map.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
It's a source of sorts. It's not a source of cocaine,
but it's a yeah. It's like saying your faucet is
a source of water. Technically true, but not really how
I think about where my water comes from? Like, I
don't think it's generated at the faucet head, although I
wonder how many people that's a question that if we did,
(22:59):
like Man on the Street interviews, I would ask where
where does your water come from? And see how far
back people could get before they got to it an
actual physical body.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Of water on the planet that we're draining.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Right.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Netflix has a few very watchable TV shows running point.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
You know about this one?
Speaker 4 (23:20):
No, it is a fictional take on the family that
owns the Lakers. Is there a family that owns the
Lakers family. Yeah, so there's a family that owns I forget.
They have some stupid name for their team, but they're
based in La. Yeah, it's I was gonna say, Jennifer Hudson,
not that one, Jennifer Coolidge. No other Hudson. Kate Hudson,
(23:46):
Kate Hudson, Yes, Kate Hudson almost famous. Yeah, Kate Hudson
plays She is the daughter, the only daughter of the family,
and it's being run.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
By it being run by uh me, yes, her dad
and then he died.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
No, no, dad doesn't die. Dad's already out of the picture.
There's three other brothers. Justin Thureau is the eldest brother
and the one that's running it. I guess he's only
gonna be I spoiled it for myself and saw that
he was six in six out of ten episodes, I
only get sixty percent thorrow in this one, which is
uh the full Throw.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah, I like I like my shows to be thoroughly
thorough heard.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
The ladies like the Full Throw.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Yeah, you know the leftovers.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
I think there's maybe like one or two episodes where
he wasn't in that, but anyway, he is, Uh, he's
the eldest and he's got a drug problem and gets
in this horrible car accident.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
But it's it's a very light show.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
It's a very obviously it's like so like the daughter
has all these ideas, like she loves basketball, but nobody
takes her seriously because she's a woman and they don't
let her be involved. She's also kind of a fuck
up when she was younger, and so they let her
run a charity.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Basically, was that really more?
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Like I haven't even seen it? Is there maybe really
more why they didn't let her run it?
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Like I saw this video though, like this, I work
with a younger guy. He's like twenty five, and he
watch his TikTok every now and then at work, and
he was watched his TikTok video and this dude was
talking about the theme of his TikTok video was like
his experience at TSA because his name sounds very ethnic
and he looks very ethnic. Right, sounds like a good premise, right, Right,
(25:34):
here's the problem. Dude's got hair down to his fucking
belly button and a full beard. I'm like, no, dude,
if this is your experience at TSA all the time,
has nothing to do with your crazy ethnic name and
the fact that you, yeah, that you look like it
looks like you have a pound of heroin shoved in
your ass. You're gonna stab the pilot on the flight.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
But yeah, it's not because you're uh where was he from?
Speaker 3 (26:03):
It it was some Eastern European sounded name or some
shing like that, like you'd be related to Borat or
some shit.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Okay, not that you're from Kazakhstan. It's that you look
like the Charles Manson of Kazic Stan.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
And he's like some twenty something who's speaking English like
me and you. Yeah, so, But I guess my whole
saying that was like I get the point they're trying
to make. Oh she does no basketball, she's a girl,
And I'm like, really, it's twenty twenty five. Who really
treats anybody like that anymore? Is it really more? Because
like you said, she was a fuck up. She can't
be trusted to give her this.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
No it That was part of it that like rubbed
me a little bit, because like Kate Hudson is like
she's the main character of this and they do a
little flashback where she had her bottoming out drug problems,
whatever the fuck, and justin Throw comes to her and says,
you're gonna do You're gonna come work for us, you know,
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so that you have something to do, some sense of purpose.
And they start a charity and they have her run it,
and she's like when when you see her, she's been
running the charity for a while and she's miffed that
nobody will let her, you know, get involved in the
real business.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
I guess, I guess My point is the real life
application would be like, no, you were not not listening
to you because we don't think you know shit about basketball.
Listen to you because you're not listening because you're driving.
Fuck up. That's how would go down in the real world.
Like yeah, but uh, And there's this judgment based on
these zero seconds of the show I've seen. By the way,
everybody the show's.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
It's entertaining enough, it's kind of funny. The cast is
all really good, nobody, no problems there. It's produced like
a network show, and there's this constant musical soundtrack that's
running through everything, and you're just like, you don't have
to mickey mouse that this could just be a quick
(27:55):
little banter between two adults.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
It doesn't have to be burrow up. I don't need
to be have my hand held through it.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
If every episode is going to be like this, though,
then I'm out because you know, at the end of
the first episode it's you know, there's some unsolvable problem
and then like she gets an idea and the little
music cue goes off, and you know she comes at
it from a aspect that nobody's thought of before because
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they're not a woman.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
That tells to me, like a sitcom trope of the
last forty years, only the woman can solve it right.
All the men around her are too fucking dumb.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
And if I was a woman, I'd be offended because
this is fucking magical Negro shit all over again. You know,
this is the this is Bagger Vance shit. You know now,
it's the magic voodoo that women possess, that the female
touch that was missing from the sport that females don't play.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Right, you have your own league.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Yeah, maybe it would be.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
One of the big stories of last year was about
a woman basketball player.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
I mean, Kate Hudson is fun, I said, most of
the cast is pretty fun. There's a little twist at
the end of the first episode that one over zealous
I don't know, grunt worker, towel boy, you know, clean,
shut up runner or whatever the fuck. The lowest on
the totem pole workers for the organization turns out to
(29:31):
be an illegitimate child of the now deceased owner and
could possibly, I would imagine, inherit a controlling interest in
this mythical team so.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
They can turn it into succession with titties.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Yeah. I mean, if you're looking for secession, there's none
of that here.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
This is all very light. This is there's no it's
not going to get tense like the Bear. It's not
going to be outrageous. If you like most of what
Shonda Rhimes has shout out for the last twenty years,
you'll probably like this one too. One of the producers
is what's the guy from Mad TV.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
That's a very open ended question. Yeah, yeah, I know,
Will Sassoke Baronholt, Michael mc yes, yeah, Ike Baron Holtz.
I guess he's one of the I think he's one
of the show creators, like he wrote on it. I
don't know if he's a producer or whatever, but he's involved.
I mean, they were like, there were some decent jokes
(30:33):
in there. It's just a it's a little ham fisted,
but that's just from watching one episode. It wasn't so
bad that I'm not gonna go back and watch another
and decide. Definitely not as engaging as the newest season
of Daredevil. Daredevil Born Again dropped two episodes. How many
more times are they gonna push Daredevil on you people?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
He's so great.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
Daredevil is like one of the greatest heroes, and he
has an amazing legacy he has. Daredell has been written
by some of the greatest writers in comics, including Brian
Michael Bendis and Frank Miller. Chipsidarski's run was fantastic. There's
just been so many fucking great Daredevil runs. And it
(31:20):
was just one stupid movie that really didn't understand anything
about the character and really just made like that Ben
Affleck movie was just a generic superhero movie, you know,
it was really just a reskinned Batman film.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
But this is the same.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
I mean, really, we've only had I want to say,
there was definitely I think like a Daredevil that popped
up on Incredible Hulk.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
The TV show.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
But from my knowledge, there's only two people that have
played Daredevil, and this isn't a complete reboot. It's just
still Charlie Cox, the guy who played him in the
last series. So this is kind of picking up a
new story the same characters, and it's taking from taken
from a lot. But definitely I can't remember the name
(32:05):
of the storyline, but Wilson Wilson Fisk, the Kingpin, runs
for mayor of New York and wins.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
And I want to say that this in the comics.
Maybe it didn't.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
I want to say it happened before Trump became president,
but maybe it didn't. I think, I'm I think I
might be wrong on that, but I think honestly that
Zero Day Hour show could zero day, zero day hour,
zero hour, zero day what was it called zero.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Days whatever the de Niro.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Zero hour was in high school?
Speaker 4 (32:40):
Okay, whatever the What the Zero de Niro Show could
learn Zero de Niro is they could learn a thing
or two from the Daredevil Show and how to put
references to modern politics in your show without.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Without speechifying it.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
I always think of like, every time I get that feeling,
I think of the old monster movies I used to
watch in black and white, you know, on the Creature feature,
and it would be, you know, some giant ants that
popped out on the ground because they were doing some
nuclear testing and had buried material under there. And then
(33:19):
when they finally get eradicate the ants, there's always some
lab coated scientists. It was like it was man's hubrious
that caused this, and if we continue down this path,
who knows what horrors will await us. They just the
message that just comes. They just plastered across the screen.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
There's no missing it.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
If the meat had instinct in me kicks in that goes,
oh this is this school. Yeah, I'm out. I forget
what that's from, but that's like that's the exact word
for like the instinct that I get, like, oh, yeah,
I'm trying to be entertained here with there's a way
to do it, and there's a way to not do it,
and the way you're doing it is making me want
to leave.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Yeah, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
I didn't feel any of that, And maybe it's partly
because I'm so in the bag for this kind of
shit when it's done right, the superhero shit. And I'm
definitely I mean, Charlie Cox and Vincent Dianafrio are both
fantastic actors and they've proven this well, you know, outside
of any kind of superhero shit, and the show is
(34:25):
kind of stripped down, you know. There's a tragedy that
takes Matt out of his element and then a little
bit of a time jump, and so we don't have
his usual cast of characters Karen Page and Froggy Nelson.
It's Matt on his own and the Kingpin on his
own too. He's having problems with his relationship with his
wife Vanessa. I guess getting shot in the head had
(34:47):
a lot to do with that. It's two very strong
figures who have completely lost their support structure, you know,
the friends and the loved ones that were around them
to keep them in check. Because both of these, both
Kingpin and Daredevil, possess a lot of power and if
you know, they could do a lot of damage with it,
(35:09):
and that's you know they are, but they have this balance.
Part of that for also for Daredevil is his religion,
his belief in God, and there hasn't been any talk
of that in this which I'm I'm kind of surprised by,
but I don't know, I imagine it would come back
like he's going to you know, go back and rEFInd
(35:32):
his religion or be like Reborn.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
I mean, you're you're.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Making a show about a superhero who famously actually believes
in God, not thor but like a God that you know,
most Americans, well most Americans who believe in God would
recognize the man. And then and you call your show Reborn,
which has definite religious overtones, and just in that one
(35:57):
word there, and it.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Just came out, and it just came out. Yeah, you know,
like this week.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
But did the show just start this week?
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Yeah? Bet Tuesday that.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Wlent just started? Yeah, yesterday? So I mean yeah, Reborn.
Lent in the Catholic Church, l is the beginning of
the sea. Lent ends with Easter, which is the resurrection
of Jesus Christ. Reborn.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Okay, yeah, so the timing was probably yeah, yeah, yeah,
probably no coincidence because it's not like it was hot
on the heels of like some other show.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
They don't stitch.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
How many episodes are there?
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Did they tell you eight or ten?
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Eight would end the week of Easter?
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Yeah? Yeah, I bet you're right. I bet you're right.
It's interesting.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
So yeah, they can't completely ignore it, but I know
I was they dropped two episodes of it, and man,
it's really good.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Way haven't intense its, haven't regularly gone to church in
twenty seven years. I'm just an advertising take notes religion.
Just remember shit, I haven't regularly studied for.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
It's been at least that I watched a baseball game.
But I can still tell you about Alan Trammel and
Kurt Gibson.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Well, now I think we're getting into what's imprinted on
your mind when you're younger.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
No, I was just saying, hey, if you're in marketing,
take notes from religion. I haven't practiced longer than I practiced,
and I still remember.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
I think I think Apple's way ahead of you on that.
Right as we sit here with our many devices.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
Yeah, one, two, there's like four Apple devices. I can see.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
We each have an iPad and iPhone in front of us.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Yeah, my Apple laptops at work.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
Yeah, I'm seriously considered if if it's a new computer,
if computer problems persist, I've had very good luck with
my Apple.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
I mean, I got my beat here boats upstairs, like,
I mean, oh.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Yeah, those are Apple, aren't they now? Aren't they? Now?
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (37:56):
You know who else is in running point? Hanks yeah,
good old Chester. He is, like, there's there he is.
You can see him m hm thinking a selfie. He's
fucking jacked.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Man.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
He's pretty funny in it too. Does he have all
those tattoos in real life?
Speaker 3 (38:15):
I'm not sure, Like he just must.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
He's gotta be like the biggest chod in real life too,
because he plays him so well.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
He's not acting thanks.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
Plays Travis Bugs, heavily tattooed, aspiring rapper and top player
on the team. He actually raps on the show.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
In one scene, he made a go of trying to
be a actual rapper.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
In twenty fifteen, he spoke publicly about dealing with substance
abuse and apologize for.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
His use of the N word.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Sorry about that?
Speaker 2 (38:47):
He says that, yeah, oh my god, he.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
Admitted, I basically get to be a slightly exaggerated version
of myself.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Wow, because your character, uh what was his stupid name again?
Bugs is a huge asshole and douchebag.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Well, at least he's got a sense of humor about it.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Yeah, we see no misogynists.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
He's a giant tool.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
Here's another quote from I Know like my name's Ben
in the media about me like going missing or getting
kidnapped or something.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
I just want to let you know I've been in rehab.
I'm doing Oh yeah, damn good.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Oh yeah I remember that. Yeah, that's from like ten
years ago.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Yeah. That was from twenty fifteen when he apologized for
using the N word.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Yeah, it was like an Instagram post or some shit.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Other controversies followed since he's inexplicably spoke in a Jamaican
accent on the Golden Globes red carpet.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
In twenty twenty, he did the opposite of apologize for that.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
Really and released a rap single titled White Boy Summer,
both of which found him accused of cultural appropriation.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
I was White Boy Summer cultural appropriation.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
When your parents are Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson, Like, yeah, man,
are we.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Really still calling white people who wrap be culturally.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Because he was doing the uh, he was doing the
the No, he was doing the Jamaican accents. Yeah, And
he was doing the song and he was doing it
in interviews and stuff too.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
It was his thing. Like he went full on vanilla ice.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
He went yeah, like Adrian Brody on that episode of
SNL when he introduced what was it, shaggy or Sean Paul.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
Yeah, ship with Gene Hackman is weird. They still don't
know what's uh, what's happened to him?
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Right?
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Like this turns out no.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
Gas leak, Like there was maybe a little bit of
a trickle coming out of the oven, but they're like
nothing that would just like make all over?
Speaker 3 (40:49):
At what point do we think suicide packed?
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Yeah? But why like that?
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Why not? He was ninety five, she was in her
upper sixties. Maybe she was fucking done. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
I think there was one guy, like a corner who
just was just shooting from the hip on it. But
it made sense to me as far as like being
the closest to a reasonable explanation. One of them died
and the other one during the shock of finding the
(41:21):
other one dead and trying to get them help, they
died like their heart just gave on them. So like
maybe something happened with his wife and she like died
suddenly had a stroke or something, and Gene Hackman found
her and panicked and then had a heart doesn't explain
what happened to the dogs, Well, the dog was the
(41:41):
dog was created, the dog, the dogs starved to death.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
Yeah, then the other dogs were just wandering around. They
were fine, we're created dog.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
Couldn't bring the dog any food? Well that's what like
the created one. Yeah, maybe the dogs should have brought
the created one some food.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Well those dogs are like fuck that dog were Oh,
we made it. They're animals, so they rolled it like sorry, son, Yeah,
it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
I mean, I know, like he's been retired from acting,
so it's not like anything was stolen from us, the
people who don't know him but just appreciated his work.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
I brought it up to my girlfriend. She said, who
is that the hack man? I said, you heard me,
Coltrane probably.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
Like I can't think of who since him has gotten
so prominent, such prominent acting roles.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
Looking like an average dude, you know, I got that thing.
He wasn't handsome.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
He just looks like a yeah, he looks like a
regular dude who is kind of handsome, maybe a little tall.
But he wasn't like typical Hollywood good looks, chizzled face
type of guy. He was like, he looked like a
character actor, but he got to play Alex Luthor because
he was that good.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
Wasn't he the guy in the Posidon Adventure?
Speaker 4 (42:54):
Going?
Speaker 3 (42:55):
How many more?
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Lord, Yes, how many more? Yeah? Side an Adventure is great?
Have you ever seen that?
Speaker 3 (43:01):
Yeah, definitely makes me want to go on a cruise.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
Yeah yeah, the whole ship upside down and shit, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
Yeah me, we're all Tanne bombs end of list.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Oh yeah, he's fantastic on that.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
You heard me? Coltrane good for the famous jeans, right.
Gene wild was gone. He was gone when we were kids.
Jean Jean Wilder's dead. Jean Stadium. Well, no, I'm talking
about Gene like a dude.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Nail jeans.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
Well, Eugene lovey, but he don't go by Gene this.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Jean Clark still alive.
Speaker 3 (43:35):
Now I'm going to look do Genes different? Jean Clark enough,
wasn't there Jean Jean the Dancing Machine.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
I guess it would just be in the birds. But
he had a solo yeh.
Speaker 4 (43:46):
He wrote most of the band's best known originals from
this period, including I Feel a Whole Lot Better If
you Don't Care about Time, eight Miles High, and Set
You Free This Time.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
I guess he didn't have much of a solo career.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
Blue Man Rep cover band. We're all gonna dress up
like various Gene Hackman characters. We're gonna call it blue jeans.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
They all be really sad.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
That'd be. It'd still be in the blue makeup. But
just as Gene Hackman characters wouldn't be like the guy
from Hoosiers.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
That's one I never seen, the.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Side adventure guy. We're all tannembaumb Is hoos Hoosiers.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Is it a basketball meving sports movie?
Speaker 3 (44:25):
Sports movie? Yes, okay, I mean I suppose they could
all be sad. Just depends how meta you want to
go on this blue jeans concept.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
I think, yeah, I think if you're gonna do it,
you need to go all the way.
Speaker 3 (44:34):
So they're wearing blue, they're wearing jeans as well, it's
part of their outfit.
Speaker 4 (44:38):
I think they should be blue. They should be wearing jeans.
They should be sad. They should all be jeans.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
And well they all have or so Geen Hackan character.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
One's Geen Autry, one's Gene Hackman, one's Gene Wilder.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
You know, well it's Gene Jeanie. You don't know if
it was a man or a woman, right, it's Bowie.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
You don't know.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Yeah, well, I don't have anything else for tonight. Good
computer stopped crackling.
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