The Thing Gets Stoned

On this show Chris and Aaron talk about: Groundhog Day, tariffs, Trump and Elon, cannabis regulations, Neil Gaiman, Fantastic Four, and the Companion movie. Please follow us on Twitter @TheWeedsmen420, Instagram @TheWeedsmenPotcast, and on Facebook at Facebook.com/TheWeedsmenPotcast/ Download the rest of our shows at ChristopherMedia.net

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Christopher Media. Let's make some noise from Asthma Corr Studios
near Detroit, Michigan. It's the Weedsman Podcast. And now you
have smoked yourself retarded.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
You're the Weedsmen.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Welcome to the Weedsman Podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
I'm Chris, I'm Aaron's Physics Physics Club. Well, excuse me,
what do you say? Physics club?

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Huh, it's a joke. I don't care.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
It's from the breakfast club.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
I guess I haven't seen it in a while.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
When uh oh wait, no Benders is going off about like, oh,
little Brian here who belongs to the math club, and
and he's he's like Anthony Michael, Yeah, it's physics club.
I belong to the physics Club. What the fuck?

Speaker 3 (01:01):
What the fuck is physics club?

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Couldn't make the elephant, it wouldn't turn on. Yeah, you're
saying it's cold outside.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
It's February.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
February. Yes, it's we had a nice little uh a
few days of like pushing forty together.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Michigan nice in January and February. It means we almost
saw forty.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, and a lot of the snow melted into one
big sheet of ice on the sidewalk.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Especially in front of my place. Yeah, super great about it.
When they replaced the side like when you like, you know,
my knowledge of the trades is only what I've picked
up in the last three years. Yeah, I know enough
to know when you do concrete, sure we're going for
smooth and level. I mean that they just went for
smooth in front of my place. Yeah, because never well
you could see it's frozen. Like whenever it rains, it's

(01:47):
just a puddle. Whenever it snows, it's just anything everything
that melted just right in front of my place. The
puddle just sits there and then freezes. Yeah. After I
throw a whole bag of saltm there a week ago,
you wouldn't fucking know.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
The squirrels are using it for seasoning problem. Yeah, I
mean you can. You can pour a nice, completely flat
and perfectly level on the bubble slab of concrete, but
it still has to be on a patch of dirt.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
And Yeah. The thing about concrete is it's news flash.
It's always gonna crack because the earth moves and concrete shifts.
But no, the thing is that the patch of dirt.
I have watched people do it. The patch of dirt
is supposed to be level. The patch of dirty level.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
You tamp it down, you level out there. Concrete you
take care of smooth, and then trees and everything else
that's underground.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
This is a year old.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
They did this last sum Did it last summer?

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yes, that's why I'm bitching. They did this last year.
So you you watched it move? Yes, I watched them
do it wrong. No, this isn't like this is twenty
year old piece of concrete and the earth is shues. No, yeah,
this was They busted it up and redid it last year.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Well, we're gonna be getting a lot more ice and
snow coming up. Winter is not over yet, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
Because that goddamn rodents saw a shadow? Right, Like, I
still don't get that. I feel we do this every year. Like,
if he sees the shadow, doesn't that mean the sun
is out? Sure, but then that's six more weeks of winter.
If he doesn't see a shadow, then we get an
early spring that means the sun is gone. I don't
understand that you would feel the appearance of the sun
means hey, cool spring's coming.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Yeah, he just doesn't trust it, I guess right.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Going back, Oh, is that supposed to be. It scares
him back in Oh hey, my shadow and getting the
fuck out of here. I'm going back in here for
six more weeks, I think.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah, he sees his shadow, right.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
And it scares him. Well.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Look, also, I believe his you read the artist on
the research, but this is all based in science.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Although yeah, his his, his, uh, his average is terrible.
I believe there is a groundhog here in Michigan that
nationally gets mentioned every year that is much more accurate.
I think her name is Susie. I can't tell you
what yeah fucking hic Michigan town she's in, but I
believe she is the most accurate groundhog.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Which is what I'm always looking for in my groundhogs.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Accuracy, Yes, in my weather, in my weather forecasting rodents,
I'm looking for accuracy.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
You know. I've seen them around. We had groundhogs in
Lavonia and then there was a a shipping container that
was in the backyard for some reason that was used
for storage, and there was groundhogs that lived underneath it,
and I'd see them scurry under there all the time,
and i'd you know, evaluate them. Nice shadows, nice ba

(04:38):
nice nice, you know, nice brown coat, good fat storage
has good speed, check the teeth, but if they're not accurate,
then they got to go. You know, if you can't,
if you can't predict the weather, then the weather get
the funk on. I mean, I'm breaking out the garden
weasel and we're clearing house from Bustin's calls. I don't

(05:05):
need no free loaders. I need somebody that when they
do pop out of their burrow, by the way, going
to tell me what fucking time it is.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Not trying to not trying to strain into the political here, yes,
but I feel there was an extra added Bill murrayish
element to this groundhog Day. How so of the media
freaking out about something Trump did that didn't matter two days.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Later, tariffs.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Yes, I was like, are we doing this? Okay, we
did this fucking eight years ago. He's gonna do something
crazy nine times out of ten, it's gonna be batted
down or like I thought the whole time, like it's
a negotiating tactic.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
It's a negotiating right. No, you're you're absolutely right. Look,
we know I didn't vote for the guy, but I
got a call it like I see it right, And
he threatened Canada with tariffs and what did they do.
They came to the table and wanted to talk about
fentanyl coming into the country, and.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
My first only after Trudeau went oh, yeah, but we're
going to do it too. But then after Mexico went, hey,
let's talk, right, Canada went maybe we'll talk to.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yes, yeah, because Canada and Mexico, I'm sure trade a lot.
And where does that trade go through? Exactly two borders
on the US.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Okay, are we all by the way, am I the
only one that's president of Mexico Claudia bomb Oh?

Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yes? How did they get a do in there?

Speaker 3 (06:32):
That sounds like what ay, Allen's mother in law or
some ship. No, wait, that's not as I mean his
actual mother, like his mom. It's like what mom's made me? Like,
there's like a Jewish chicken run in Mexico and everyone's like.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, that's yeah, called it Trudeau. What are you tariff
in the US for malone?

Speaker 3 (06:51):
Something like? Right? Trudeau?

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Right, yeah, a nice boy. Don't send him the fentanyl.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Canada's got like a French contingent.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
You're like, all right, you know Trudeau, Yeah that makes sense.
Mexican Jews zero, I'm coming up to zero. What was
the name again, Claudia Shinebomb shine bomb Au.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Yes, I can't be the only one who's notices the
names to get around.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
President of Mexico, names get around. I don't know. I
was gonna say, maybe she converted. But it's not a
it's not a race.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
It's like a husband's name.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Right.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Mexicans are some very traditional people, a lot of Catholics,
you know, not a lot of women's libers. Let's stay
down there.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Where did the shine bombs come from? Though? Like? Where
was that? What wed that name originate from? York?

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Well?

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah, but before then, like where does a I mean,
that's a Jewish name, right, Sure, I mean it's real,
it's Jewish, but like the Jews were from all over,
so it's I mean, it doesn't sound Polish, it doesn't
sound Israeli, it doesn't sound I don't know, but.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
I mean I get it. You know, the brown people generally,
you know, history's punching bags. You know, they found each other.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
You're saying society forced them into a relationship by limiting
their options.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Oh maybe some dude from New York who was at
a fucking resort and met this Claudia chick. We don't know.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Well, I hope DEI works out for Mexico.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
Right, Hey, we need a Jewish chick.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
I'm not going to try and get mad at Trump.
I'm not going to go out of my way to
be mad at him because it is what it is.
But I didn't well I didn't vote for Trump and
nobody voted for Elon. That's what really bothers me about
this administration.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
I get it. But at the same time, I mean,
it's just one of the donors pulling the strings that
we can see, whereas like.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
It's a fair point. At least it's being done in
the open.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
Yeah. Right, you don't think there was with anybody any
any administration. You don't think there's some a couple people
with the big pocketbooks behind the scenes going No. Absolutely,
isn't the blue boogeyman George Sorows?

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, I mean at least Trump uh invited him to
the inauguration and you know, gave him a platform.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
Well he didn't. Wasn't there a thing that day? Didn't
he like brush him back?

Speaker 2 (09:17):
I don't know, like something with those.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Like the Democrats are threatening some kind of revote and Trump.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Was saying Trump okay, yeah, I wonder if they have
that kind of relationship, you gotta figure that this has
got to be brief, right, There's an expiration date on
this relationship. Trump and Elon are just I mean, the
question of who's actually running things is going to be asked,
and just that the question is asked is going to

(09:44):
bother Trump. It won't bother Elon any because Elon knows
who's actually running things. If Trump will be bothered by
it and he will express it, and neither of the
These are two people with no filter, right, So how
long can they stay in this? Really?

Speaker 3 (10:00):
I mean, I say like, there's you know, I got
a couple of Illuminati friends and I'm like, really you
in this? In this conversation's come up?

Speaker 2 (10:08):
I say, members are believers, Okay, I said, if this existed,
think about who it actually would be and Musk would
be like.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Think about who moves money around on the globe?

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Do they believe in the Deep States?

Speaker 3 (10:21):
What would it really be? It would be like Elon,
it would be like Bill Gates, it would be Bezos,
it would be the tech bro, some oil person you've
never heard of, some bank guy you've never heard of.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
I'm curious, do you think that this is the age
of the tech bros. Or is this the end of
the beginning of the end of the tech bros. Because
once they actually are perceived to be in power, I
think it.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Aged tech bros. Do you think text going somewhere.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
I don't think text going anywhere, but being involved in
government is what I mean.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
As long as there's money to be had, they'll be involved.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah. I think it'll be more of the case of
they'll go back to the way things were and just
have it be dark money and suggestions rather than be
on the stage and you know, actually trying to run things. Oh,
I can agree with that because I think what Elon, Well,
I don't know, like.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Because I think I think what you're saying it is right.
But I think at some point Trump has a big
enough ego to be like, hey, motherfucker, I was elected,
not you. Yeah, calm the fuck down.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yeah, well, I just I mean, remember what happened with
him and Bannon and.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
Ban innocence proved to be nuts.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Right, But he was also he was thought to be
the mastermind of Trump's campaign, and probably accurately so. And
the assumption would be that he would be running things
in the what in the White House as well, which
he tried to and acted as if and then was
eventually kicked out because he got too big for his bridges,

(12:02):
And I how does it not happen the same way
with Elon? How do you avoid that with Elon? Other
than the fact that.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
His own department.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yeah, they did that for Bannon too.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Yeah, but Steve Bannon wasn't the richest man in the world.
There is that factor.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
And also Elon is coming into a job where the
default starting point is half of the voting population is
going to hate you, and you're going to work your
way and half automatically hates you, and the other half
is going to want to see you prove yourself. And
so I mean, I don't know, like, do they actually
track approval ratings for Elon Musk like they do other

(12:40):
people in the White House?

Speaker 3 (12:41):
I would ask you, given the man's history, do you
think he gives a fuck?

Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah? I think that's the only thing that saves him
as far as spiraling out is the fact that he
might not just give a fuck that he is at
ten percent approval ratings.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
He has the ultimate fuck me money. He is the
richest person in the world. He has enough money for
his reaction to be to everything can be like whatever,
fuck off, I just sold one hundred thousand more Teslas.
Eat shit.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
I just I know. One of his big initiatives is
regulation is bad, period, get rid of all of it,
and then as we find need for regulation, we'll make
them up. I don't think he understands how the.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
I feel that's one hundred and fifty years ago. I
feel there's.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
There's kind of a lot of proven regulation that in
order to reprove it we would have to let people
die unnecessarily. Right, we take the guardrails off the machinery,
and we let people get ground up, and then we go,
maybe we should put some guardrails up over this machinery
so people don't get ground up. I think that's costing
us a lot of money.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
I think somewhere between fuck it no regulations and the
state of California, the answer.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Lies, right, And I guess by Elon's method, you would
get there eventually. But do we want it to take
one hundred and fifty years to get back to that point,
that midpoint that we should be in.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
I think when it comes to plausible, rational, common sense
safety regulations, it is needed. Yeah, But when you get
into like the this esoteric shit of like we need
this regulation for like this one in a million thing.
But I will also tell you from my dealings in

(14:28):
the business world from the last few years, if there
is a regulation for it, it's because it happened. Like
I always joked with people, there is a fucking label
on the hair dryer that says, don't use it in
the tub because somebody fucking used it in the tub.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Ye like yeah, and they and we put the label
on it, and they still used it in the tub.
So we put a GFI on the outlet, right, and
now you're like, fine, use it in the tub. It'll
just stop working.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
Idiots.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
I don't know. Like, so we have we've got regulations
on cannabis. Right, There's a lot of regulations on cannabis,
and none of them at least here in Michigan. You know,
we know that California has problems with regulations across the board,
and cannabis is affected just like any other business. It's
overregulated and it allows the black market to thrive in Canada.

(15:22):
But here in Michigan it's regulated, but it's not taxed
to the point where the black market thrives. So now
I can't find black market weed. I don't know who
to call. That's growing up. I would I wouldn't know
where to fucking start, and there'd be no reason for.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
Call the one guy I knew like ten years ago.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah you still yeah, yeah, no, that Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
That's the thing because in Michigan, like like I let
my medical card lapse, it's like it's not saving money
anymore because too the market prices came down to what
I was paying with medical. It's like what was already paying,
Like it's even with the medical money on it, it's
still the same amount of money.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
And the medical didn't fluctuate as much because there were
so many more regulations on the fact that it was medicinal.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
So yeah, you didn't see the same plunge in pricing
that you saw in the recreational market where you saw
vapes go from forty dollars to thirty dollars to twenty
five dollars to fifteen dollars now literally yeah, the same
Actually a stronger vape cartridge a gram that I can

(16:28):
get for fifteen to twenty dollars. I was happily paying
forty to forty five dollars for that same thing.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
I think I've read. I think it was somewhere in
the last year. Michigan is thinging of just killing the
medical program because they've seen enrollment just take a nose dive.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
They recently in Michigan recalled sixteen thousand, THHC vaping cartridges,
and I did have a picture up on here Platinum Vape.
You've probably bought a Platinum vaight product now recently, not recently, yes,
I have before it, not in a long time. I
found and they were your very traditional five ten thread

(17:12):
little bullet yep, you know nothing custom about it. Screw
it into any battery and fire it up, and uh.
I stopped buying them because it seemed like every third
one would get so gummed up that I couldn't finish
the cartridge. About halfway through, it would just it would
all that extra wax build up would just skunk up

(17:34):
for me.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
It was that, and I think too, I just started burning.
They started. They used to burn nice and slow, and
I think they changed the fluid and they started to me.
I started just flying through them. Yeah, maybe I'm just
a huge fucking stone.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
They thinned, they were watering it down a little bit.
Were they burning out like tasting bad?

Speaker 3 (17:50):
No, I mean it was just through like a gram
in like three days, like so I was going through
in like a week.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
This company, based out of Warren Be, subsidiary of Red
White and Bloom under the Platinum Vape brand name, tested
positive for medium chain triglyceride known as MCT oil.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
Right, it makes you're not hungry.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
MCT oil, commonly derived from coconut or palm oil, is
primarily using oral supplements and food products. That's how I
know MTC is MCT Right. Doctor Drew would talk about
putting in his coffee. So it seems like it's safe
to consume.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
You can't smoke it.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
I guess you can't vape it. I don't know if
let's see. However, when aerosolized and inhaled, MCT oil may
pose dangers to respiratory health. MCT oil was already banned
for use in Michigan marijuana products. Since it's not approved
by the FDA for inhalation safety testing, labs weren't previous

(19:00):
looking for it, so they were sliding in something that
what they weren't even testing for. Figuring oh mc MCT
oil is you know, it's a food add it is,
so it's safe and they're not testing for it, so
we can maybe that's what they were watering it down.
Maybe actually that was the difference in the cartridges. Was

(19:23):
that added oil.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
I mean we're talking years like pre COVID's probably the
last time I had a platinum eight.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Who knows how long they were doing this for. They've
been around for a while. Concerns over MCT oil stem
from a massive lung illness outbreak in twenty nineteen caused
by the use vitamin e acetate NOPE, which manufacturers thought
to be harmless.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
I call bullshit that we think that was covid because
that was remember that was the Yeah. Because remember too,
because it was it wasn't just in pot was in
fucking because remember they were trying to ban regular vapes too.
Remember in Michigan, like fruit flavored vapes were banned for
like two weeks, and shit, that was the vap This.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Is this popcorn lung shit?

Speaker 3 (20:13):
No, remember it was Remember it was the mystery vape
illness And it was like right before COVID shows, this is.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
The yeah, yeah, this is the black market products. Yeah,
that had it in there, the vitamin eacidy.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
But if you look back on those stories, all this
you read every everybody talked about how they died it
was that's COVID. They talked about how they felt like
they were drowning and all that shit, and it was
doctors didn't know what it was and they couldn't figure
it out well.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
According to this m Live article, it says proven sometimes
deadly and banned after being linked to nearly two eight
hundred hospitalizations and sixty eight destinationwide, including three in Michigan.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
But how how was that?

Speaker 2 (21:02):
I'm not saying it happen anything. No, I'm not trying
to integate your point with that. I'm just saying that's
the stitut.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
I understand, But I said, I'm not nice question you.
I'm asking to the article. Then how was it not
happening before then? If this was going on four years
all of a sudden, just COVID got here early. We
didn't know a bunch of people fucking got it.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Like, it's very possible. Yeah, because I don't give a
date twenty nineteen, so it could have been late twenty nineteen.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
No, it was, Remember it was in the fall of
twenty nineteen. I mem it was in like September. In
October that shit started happening. And when did COVID show
up in the United States? Wasn't it late January or
the first actual.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Well when I so, I used to just grab whatever
KRT was the cheapest, yes, saying, And but this was
also again when carts were still at a premium price,
and it was still a good day because you're essentially getting,
you know, the same if you pay like forty five
dollars for an eighth of good weed, and this concentrate

(22:10):
was equivalent to an eighth of weed in a little,
a little easy to conceal and consume device, then it
makes sense that yeah, you I'd still pay forty to
forty five dollars for that same product. You're just repackaging
it in a more convenient form for me. I might
even pay a little bit more for it. But now

(22:32):
it's so I started using Stizzy, and not only because
they were it was a proprietary cartridge that you needed
a certain battery for. So that right there, like you know,
I've got forty dollars in the battery. I'm not just
going to buy any old vape. I'm going to use
the one that that goes with my battery, my battery.

(22:56):
But also I noticed that the consistency of the product
was like spot On. Never had a problem with it
getting all gu gummed up, burning out, not working at all.
Uh you know, I had a platinum vapse with a
five to ten thread where they just forgot to drill

(23:18):
the air hole. So you thread it all the way
in and it's closed up, but it's really suck through it.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
It's really on the cart manufacturing.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Yes, it's the it's the manufacturer. But I've never had
a problem with these. These are much like muamds man. Yeah, yeah,
and you will. You went a different route where you
just like get all self contained battery and all. When
I'm done, I chuck it. Yeah, and it works until
it's done.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
Yeah. This is like twenty five bucks yeah, and it's
two grams.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah. No, it's a steal.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
So I don't know who's still using these five ten
cartridges and getting it because I mean they're dirt cheat
now kids.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
Yeah my nephew, yeah, like yeah, because he and his
buddies they're all broke, so they'll all go in on
the like because now with the five tens, they'll be like, hey,
get ten four hundred dollars. Yeah, so they'll like him
and his buddies will all like yeah, they'll pull their
phones and do that.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Ship makes sense. I mean that's what you did back
in the day. Everybody's got it with beer. Everybody's got
fifteen bucks.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
Oh yeah, all through it a big bag, yeah and
smoked all s.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Yeah, well you got it, because what are you gonna
do divvy up what's left?

Speaker 3 (24:27):
Maybe my friends would have. Did you see the story?
I didn't click on it. What's that we talked about?
Dude got high, thought he could stop bullets and obviously
got shot.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Uh how did he's gonna send it into I did
not see it.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
But I was like, this can't be. It was real.
Dude got like so high. I thought he cold stop bullets,
had his friend shoot at him, and yeah, like stop
bullets like like he's fucking neo and ship.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Okay. I was gonna say stop bullets like Superman or
stop bullets like Neo, Like stop like bullet time. I can.
I'm so fast, I can dodge bullets Superman like I
just yeah, I just stand there and let him bounce
off of me. Did he have a vest? Too many questions?

Speaker 3 (25:21):
But it was from like a local TV station, so
I know it wasn't like bullshit. Yeah it wasn't. It
wasn't around here. It was from somewhere around the country.
But yeah, it wasn't from like, you know, Bill's blog
or some ship. It was actually it was an actual like.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
But he had a friend shoot him.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
You had a friend shoot fucking bullet at him.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
He didn't shoot himself. No, okay, I don't know why
that's not better or worse, but actually it's worse. He
just got an accomplice now and a lot more questions. No,
he asked me to shoot him. Yeah, because he said
he was bulletproof. Uh. Yeah, I was high enough to

(25:59):
believe him. It's not just that the.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
Good shit, I'm sorry enough to believe him. He was
high enough to come up with it.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Yes, he was high enough to believe it of himself,
but also not quite so high that he couldn't convince
his other very high friend that he was telling them.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
He's also he's able to operate a firearm, you know.
Good for him.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah, his aim was solid. You know, he could have
been so high that innocent bystanders were getting clipped. Oh shit,
sorry that dude's not bulletproof. Wait now, let me try again,
because I didn't hit you. Hold still, No, just be
one of you. There's two of you.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
He Let me hit that again.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Oh, let me hit the bong and close one eye. Okay,
there we go. Well, I guess that's it for Neil Gaiman.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah, everybody's favorite dark and brooding author anymore. Who's uh,
who's like his own commercial empire?

Speaker 3 (27:03):
Why has he been convicted of anything yet? Or does
it not look good? Is this like Bill Cosby where
it's like it doesn't look.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Good, it doesn't look good. Yeah, And there's a there's
a lawsuit filed now from a person who was in
the employee at the house of Gaiman who claims that
she was basically pimped out by Amanda Palmer Gayman's wife.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
Oh you went Epstein that.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Well, she he had an affair with her at the
behest of his wife. Like his wife procured this woman
for him.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
Well, that's what I'm saying. Like he went on Epstein
where he had a chick getting the Mother Chicks. Yeah,
well thanks for playing. Hope you invested well.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Yeah, I mean, I guess power corrupts ultimately there's no
way around it.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
Or if you're a shitty person, it just amplifies your
shitty qualities.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
That may be true, Yeah, that may be true. It's
just we all these stories are after he gets a
TV deal, after he writes Stardust, after he you know,
starts getting all these options on stuff on the on
his books and comics, when he's just writing the when

(28:32):
he's just writing The Sandman and getting paid scale for
it and appreciated but not world famous. Yeah, he just
these things don't happen. He was just a run of
the mill creep. I guess, just.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
A regular creep with no money.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Yeah, well, regular creep flying under the radar.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
He's an empty bag, or wasn't empty bag?

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Yeah, so his I mean we waited. Now I'm just
mad that it took so long, because we waited so
long for there to be an adaptation of The Sandman.
You know, his most well known work, the most popular
DC comic to come out of the well. I was

(29:17):
going to call it black Vertigo line and a classic.
I mean, it holds up. Hate Neil Gamon or do
whatever you want. But if you like comics and you
like him weird, read The Sandman because it's still it's.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
A great, great fuck in the Rock and Roll Part two.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
But we wait, it took so.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Long listen to Michael Jackson today.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
I mean since before the series wrapped at issue what's
seventy five, there were talks of adapting it into a movie,
and you know, eventually this whole TV renaissance that were
we experienced happened, and then it was like, oh, this
doesn't have to be a movie. Actually makes more sense

(30:09):
to make it into a TV show because the stories
are all sterialized in that fashion anyway, and everything's kind
of grouped into seasons where you know, you have a
six issue story arc that happens with certain characters, and
then the next story arc is completely different, different characters,

(30:30):
different locales. Yeah, so it's and it's almost not even
just like seasons. It's uh, oh, what do you call it?
When you do like a white lotus type of show
and it's a different cast each season. A word series, no,

(30:51):
a like Fargo. It's a continuing series with a different
there's this very specific word that's not coming up in
my vocab at the moment, but it's it's it was
all meant to.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
Happen, right, about TV nowadays.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Yeah, so, so TV has been doing the weirder shit
for a while now. I love TV so much and
what happened and movies are playing it safe now, and
so TV seems to be the natural place where this
this show can be developed now. And Alan Heimberg, the
showrunner and the person who developed it for Netflix, is fantastic.

(31:35):
He's a great writer and uh it's been involved in
a lot of shows. But I just I can't believe
him when he announces this week the week of well,
just the week after the Variety article, a couple of
days after the announcement of the lawsuit from the former
housekeeper of Neil Gaiman. He now says, we're ending The

(32:01):
Sandman was season two because we always planned it to
end at season two. That's as much story as we
had plotted out, and that was the natural conclusion, liar
to the series. And you're like, okay, so you season

(32:22):
one is basically the first sixth episode, the first six
issues of The Sandman, right issues one through six of
a seventy five issue series. You see where I'm going
with this. You didn't have to plot out shit, It's
all there if you just followed the series you would

(32:44):
have ten seasons of a television shows.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
You you have jammed issues seven through seventy five into
season two.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Yeah, boy, it's gonna go by fast. Nobody blink.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
Yeah, lot's going on on a pay attention kids.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Yeah, all right. So to pick up where we left off,
the same man has lost his uh, his scepter and
his bag of fairy dust, and he's sent a woman
to hell for not loving him. Oh, and he has
a baby and his family shows up, but not in
that order, and uh, and then he dies. That's what's

(33:25):
gonna happen in season two. And there's gonna be a
new Sandman named Daniel, and he's gonna be all white
and not all black.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
He prefers to be called the dan Man.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yes, the dan Man. Carline musical scrapped. Oh well you're good?
Why Yeah, Carline's good.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Yeah, it's a very forgettable movie from fifteen.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Oh that's good. It's a good movie. It's a good book.
It's a good movie. I don't know that needs to
be a musical because there's no music in it a musical.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
So I don't know. Broadway the last twenty.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Years that ain't.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
Been stopping them. They've put music into a lot of
shit that hasn't had music in it.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Yeah, I think. I think part of the story wasn't
the Spider Man Turn Off the Dark, The much maligned
Broadway musical was thought to be canceled because nobody wanted
to go see it, and they're like, no, we were
sold out. It was just so expensive, And then people

(34:26):
kept hurting themselves, like everybody, our main character has to
fly around on ropes for half of the musical and
study yeah and behold, yeah, we ran exactly it, and
the insurance was too high on it, I think is
what happened. So it's not that nobody wanted to go
see a Spider Man musical. People will apparently want to

(34:47):
go see a musical of anything. They just want to
see a musical. They don't even care if it's as
long as it's used to be something else another property,
a book, a movie, a TV show, a reality show.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
What was it that Rock of Ages musical proved to
me like, oh, like this is Broadway. Now here's a
bunch of shitty eighties songs. We'll make a terrible story
sewing them all together, and dud it made him fucking millions. Now, Yeah,
it was so popular they made it. What was a movie?
It was? What was it? Baldwin, Tom Cruise? Who else

(35:20):
was in that movie? Who was it? There was a
female lead?

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Wait, which movie you were talking about?

Speaker 3 (35:25):
The Rock of Ages Rock.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Of Ages movie? Remember where Tom Cruise sang, I'm confusing
it with the Judas Priest movie.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
No, that was Mark.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
That was Mark Wahlberg.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
No, that was like ten years before.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, you're right, Yeah, I forgot about that.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
Baldwin was the club owner? Who was the female lead?

Speaker 2 (35:46):
And what about Vinyl? That was a musical TV show?

Speaker 3 (35:50):
Oh it was, I know it was musical. It was.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
It's not it's just a lot of musical perform but
it is, but no thing diegetic, Like people aren't breaking
into song in the middle of the street. It's all
like there were. There were just a lot of full
musical performances in it, where like this band is supposed
to be Iggy and the Stooges kind of sounds like him,

(36:17):
kind of looks like him, but we don't have the
license to any of that. So here's generic punk band.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
Here are Ziggy and the Scrooges. Yes, yes, Dickens Fritt
and Dickens theme punk band.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
And here's Richard Ginsu with his hit gold Cats. I
don't know, I'm trying to do it.

Speaker 4 (36:37):
David Bowie, gentlemen, the Live Kennedy Yes, the Kennedy's who
Weren't shot, Yes, with their song Holiday in Wait.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Oh not Cambodi Campus, Yes, Vacation and Camp Vacation in Hawaii.
We got the preview for the Fantastic Four movie to
be released this year. Third bite at the Apple.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
I saw this morning like Good Morning America. Made it
look like idiots were all lined up to see the
preview of this thing. Yeah, like holding signs outside like
I'm sinner, thinking like, hasn't every Fantastic Four movie been
what's the word terrible?

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (37:24):
Like I know enough to know that none of those
movies are anywhere near what you would call revered.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Well, not revered. The first ones boring, the second one
is interesting, but because everybody's so boring from the first movie,
it just taints it. And then you got the reboot
where they completely misunderstood the characters and tried to make

(37:57):
them into something different. They they tried, well, they thought that,
and it seems almost logical to go body horror because
what is the story of the Fantastic Four except for
pure body horror. You go into space, space radiates you,
you come back stretchy, invisible, made out of rock and

(38:21):
on fire.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
The Thing, Yeah, definitely, it's all yeah, body horror Like
a motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
The Thing is the epitome of body horror. And even
to the point where I mean, he's basically starting a
whole genre. Like David Cronenberg as a young child read
This Man, This Monster by Jack Kirby about this was
an early Fantastic Four comic. That center is completely on

(38:49):
Ben Grimm as the Thing and having to deal with
the fact that he is made out of rock and
can't operate in society.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
The way he used to.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
He used to be. He was not just a normal guy.
Ben Grimm was a jock. He was a jock and
a fucking astronaut. You know how much fucking real pussy
that guy was getting.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Get no pussy, there's no now, there's now he had.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Now he has to fuck blind people and aliens.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
Oh god.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
His wife is Alicia Masters, who's a blind sculptor. In
the comics, well, you know, because the comics are on
the nose's lid for every pot. I'm sorry. I love
blind people. My sister's blind. I'm sure she gets it

(39:45):
all the time.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
No, all right, wait, because she would know, right, she
would know like his wife, because we're not thinking like
a right, oh right, Yeah, she's married to a giant rock.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Oh she knows, she knows for sure, yes, but she
because she's blind. She sees the inner beauty of Ben
Grimm and the person that he is, and not judging
him just on how he looks his rocky exterior. Yes,
inside is a I don't know, soft guey magma.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
Probably. Probably that's how rocks work, Yeah, how earthworks?

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Like what's inside you? Like guts and stuff, all kinds
of black guns. What does Nelson say when he's talking
to Lisa on the date? Remember when Lisa thinks that
she likes Nelson the bully and they go on a
date together. Vaguely yes, and she's like trying to get

(40:51):
him to open up, and uh, she's like you know
something about like what's inside you? And he's like the burrita.
She's like, no, you know the stuff that's like inside
of your and he's like, I can't remember how she
puts it. And he's like Oh, I never thought about it.
I guess just all kinds of black stuff and guts.

(41:16):
That's what's inside me. I don't know. It's not a
joke the way I'm saying it. But Nelson isn't too deep, No,
he's skin deep. He's never thought about what's going on inside. So, yeah,
the Fantastic Four is a failed concept. Why do it again,
because it's an amazing concept that's just never been conceptualized

(41:41):
fully on screen.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
And stop picking terrible directors.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
And the I mean this is the Fantastic Four are
Marvel's first family. Literally, when Marvel becomes Marvel Comics. It
used to be Timely and Timeley had published the Human Torch,
not the Human Torch from the Fantastic Four. This was

(42:08):
an android that was able to set himself on fire.
It was the Human Torch, Captain America, Prince Naymour, the
sub Mariner, and I think that's it. Yeah, those were
They published three superheroes in the forties as Timely and

(42:30):
at the same time, not at the same exact time,
but during that same decade, National Comics publishes Superman, Batman,
Wonder Woman, than the Justice League, then Flash Bench.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
Right, just just taking it just right in a row.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Right, so the classics of the like. It doesn't even
matter if a wonder Woman movie fails, because wonder Woman
is not going to be less popular. Is a character
not more or less popular. It's just like these that
Holy Trinity from DC that they are holding onto those
copyrights for power is everything that they do. It's all.

(43:13):
It's kind of crazy because wonder Woman's the least popular
of the three, right. I mean, just you look at
any statistic of comics, merchandise movies, look at any of
the numbers from those, and you'll see how popular Batman is,
how Superman's a close second, and wonder Woman's down at

(43:37):
the bottom.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
Deep.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
It's a drop off of a cliff in terms of
money generated by the character, but it's still money, and
DC doesn't Actually, they have a licensing deal with the
Marsden estate. That the what's his name, I want to say,

(44:00):
James Marson, that's the actor Marsden, the creator of wonder Woman,
has long since passed, but as a state still exists
and they get residuals from the sale of any wonder
Woman product. You know, they get a little piece of
the movie. They get it, you know, I want to
say they get a piece of the comics, but I
don't know what that is because the comics don't make money,

(44:22):
Like they literally do not make money, so they don't
get any piece of that. But DCA has a licensing
deal with the Marston estate that allows them to hold
the copyright for wonder Woman as long as they continue
to publish a wonder Woman comic in some form. So
every month a wonder Woman comic has to be published,

(44:46):
or I shouldn't even say every month, probably every year
they have to keep. You know, they can skip a
month if a book's late, doesn't mean like, oh we
you know, now we get the rights back. If they
probably go more than a year of not publishing wonder Woman,
they lose the rights to that character completely and it

(45:07):
goes back to the Martsian estate.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
Oh wow.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Yeah, it's just kind of interesting because you know, you
wonder why, Like I want who.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
Negotiated that deal.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Like when you see the if you look at the
numbers on comics sales and you see how Wonder Woman sells,
you'd think, why is it? Why isn't it canceled? Why
are they on issue one thousand plus of a book
that never sells because it doesn't need to. It never
needs to make money. It's just a placeholder. It's just

(45:40):
a way to hold on to a copyright so that
they can sell birthday candles and Halloween costumes and make
movies and put her in animated stuff and sell costumes
and all of it. Everything that Wonder Woman's ever been on.
DC is getting the majority of that, Marsden Estate's getting

(46:01):
a little bit of it. And if they stop publishing
the comics, then Marsden, a state, gets all that money.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
But I think what Marsden is doing is DC has
the infrastructure to keep the money train.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Rolling, possibly, but at this point, better deal for them
to do that. Like if they were to own the
character outright like Disney does, Disney doesn't have to do
anything with Mickey, and they don't. When's the last time
they made a Mickey Mouse movie? When's the last time
you saw Mickey Mouse comic book?

Speaker 3 (46:36):
There are actually Mickey Mouse like keys shows, yes, cartoons,
four kids that nobody sees except for a certain demographic
between three and six years old, and then they grow outgrow.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
It and then they move on. But that is important
to them because that cements Disney as a brand in
that young mind. Yeah, and they carry that throughout their lives.
They grow up and they take their kids to Disneyland
because they remember how much fun they had watching Mickey
Mouse cartoons as a kid with their family. All that

(47:09):
to say, Wonder Woman is as strong a brand as
Mickey Mouse, almost not quite. She doesn't have her own
theme park, and she couldn't sustain it, But I think
she's strong enough brand that she wouldn't go anywhere that
if they stop publishing Wonder Woman comics, nobody would fucking
notice because one percent of the reading of the comic

(47:30):
reading population is actively reading Wonder Woman comics. That means
point zero zero nothing of the actual world is aware
that they even make Wonder Woman comics. If I wasn't
telling you this right now, you wouldn't know it because
you wouldn't see them. And also, it's a self fulfilling prophecy.

(47:52):
If you don't put good artists and good writers onto
a book, nobody's going to buy it. If Scott Snyder
and Jock decide they want to do One Woman now,
Wonder Woman's a top seller, But that's only a twelve
issue limited series because those people have to go on
to make Batman and Superman comics as well, because that
is actually.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
Sell Yeah, they know it keeps the lights on.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
Yes, so Fantastic four. Why are they making a Fantastic
Four movie? I got off on a tangent. But the
point I was making is when they decided to go
all in on superheroes and become Marvel Comics, they had essentially,
I mean Timely essentially failed and Marvel was born out

(48:37):
of the ashes of But there are a lot of
people that were involved in Timely Comics that went on
to Marvel. Stanley Liebert's or stan Lee Jack Kirby, the
guy who created Spider Man.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
God, what the fuck is his name? That stan Lee.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
No, it'll come to me at some point when I'm
driving home tonight, Stanley Stanley tell us about you and Stanley. Well,
Stanley was great, you know, he was there the whole
time that we were.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
I was making love to joke purely for people in Detroit.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
When, yeah, when Stanley was in the room, I was
making love to Stanley, and I was looking at Stanley
and he was making love to me. Stanley, and then
he started coming on to me. That's a whole other.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
Podcasting for two people in Detroit and you're old, you
get it.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
No, but you know what people might know that outside
of Detroit. They just played it over and over again.
They didn't edit that. I mean they selectively edit. It's
taken out of context. But that's what he said. Oh yeah,
Tom Cruise was talking about fucking his wife on camera
like Stanley was a third person in that manajatoire. That's

(49:58):
what he was talking about that he was. It felt
like I was making love to Stanley. But it's the
it's the calling, like everybody else calls him Kubrick and
you're on a first name basis with them. I guess
if anybody is it's the guy who fucked his wife
in front of him. You get to be you get

(50:20):
to call me Stanley. Now, can it be stan No?
Do you see fucking stan Kubrick on on that poster? Stanley?
And if you test me again, it's stan Lee Burt's
that's my full name. Someday I'm gonna run Mexico.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
But he's a vice president, Vice president Stanley President Claudia
Shinebum of where.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
Mexico, Mexico, New York. Right, Yeah, it's a neighborhood, a
new neighborhood in New York is that in Long Island.
I think The Fantastic For it looks great. Though they
are I keep not making my point. They're They're Marvel's
first family. When they decided that they were going to
go all in and make superhero comics, they made The Fantastic.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
For Take us a spirit, which it is intended.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
Yes, any of these movies, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
Did they ever just find a hardcore group of nerds
show it to him and be like, what do you think?

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Because I feel like so, I think they did.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
And that's those are the ones that got through, are
the ones everybody hates.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
I think that's how you get Zack Snyder's Justice League
is Yeah, you pull the fans, and the fans go,
we want something that looks like the Dark Knight. We
want something that looks like the grim and gritty comics
that we grew up with in the eighties. And I
mean that's what Zack Snyder does is fans service, and

(51:57):
he does it well. I'm not even dissing it. I
think actually his extended cut of the Justice League is
the superior version. If you're gonna watch any vert, don't
watch the two hour movie that was in the in
the theaters, it doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 3 (52:17):
They're change dot org petition to make the official version.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
Uh yeah, and it should be, honestly, I mean, in
as much as like anything should be. It's a fucking movie.
So it doesn't matter whether it is or isn't. I
could give a fuck ultimately if the Justice League movie
exists in any form. But if it's going to exist
and it's going to be available on a platform where

(52:41):
I can stream it, I'm gonna watch the full four
hour version of it because that's where all that's where
the story actually makes sense. If you cut out everything
that makes it make sense, then you got the Joss
Whedon version that they put in the theaters. So uh yeah.
I mean that's where they go is they asked the
fans what do you want to see in a comic movie?

(53:04):
And they go, well, I don't know what are my
favorite comics? I like The Dark Night, I like Watchmen,
I like V for Vendetta. That's the same guy, Okay,
not really branching out here. Oh I like that Daredevil run.
Oh that was Frank Miller too, While these are all
like really dark.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
Hmm.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
I guess that's what I like, I like really dark stuff,
and they go, Okay, we'll make a really dark movie.
The problem with that process is people don't know what
they like. They need to be surprised, and that surprise
is what puts that experience from Oh. I went in
expecting it to be dark and gritty. I didn't expect

(53:44):
it to be so fucking funny as well. You know,
it had all the characters from the comics and a
fucking talking raccoon that actually was entertaining. I wasn't expecting
any of that. Nobody knew what to expect from the
Guardians of the Galaxy because there were no expectations for
the Guardians of the Galaxy movie. There are expectations for

(54:07):
what a Batman movie should look like, what a Superman
movie should look like. Nobody knew. Even those people who
knew the Guardians of the Galaxy were like, what version.
There's so many different ones. There's not like one set
team of the Guardians of the Galaxy. They cherry picked
the best characters, gave them full personalities, gave them a
story arc. Each one of them had the things that

(54:29):
they do make sense, and people loved it. Those are
the core elements of storytelling, not what do you want
to see out of a movie? So asking the fans
now it's a fool's errand you can't ask the fans.
You asked the fans afterwards what they thought, and see
if you get it right. You ask the fans beforehand,

(54:50):
and now you just got them poisoning your brain about
what you should be doing.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
You sound like one of those guys people don't know
what they want until you tell them.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Yes, they don't. They're kids. It's another Simpsons reference when
they're like, that's why you'll always be dumb. And they're
testing the Itchy and Scratchy and they've got the two
way the one way mirror, and the kids are all
in the room and they're turning the dial to like
I like this and I like that, I don't like that,

(55:20):
and they're all over the place. They're like, yeah, I
want it to be this. I wanted to be fresh
and new. I wanted to be familiar and comfortable. You
can't have it both ways, right, And so finally the
producer drops the the two way mirror and he's like
talking directly to the kids and he's like, you don't
know what you want, That's why your kids, and Ralph

(55:45):
starts crying and just turns his dial to bad.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
I don't like it.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
Because he thinks he's still watching the TV. So I
don't know. We got a few months until that fantastic
horror movie comes out, but I guarante fucking to you
I will wait in line to watch it if I
have to. I am so looking forward to that thing,
and what a great cast.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
I fear you won't be waiting in line.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
I won't be waiting. I'll just be watching fantastic for
making sure that I grab my tickets on the app
call I.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
Feel in this day and age, Yeah, what you in
line for? Movie? What are? Is your cell phone broken?

Speaker 2 (56:25):
Actually? If I want to see it at a time
that's reasonable, and I want to see it on an
Imax screen, I'm probably gonna have to buy my tickets
at least two to three weeks in.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
I feel. The last time I actually bought a hard
ticket was the twenty eighteen Star Wars movie. After that,
it's all been on.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
Yeah, I went and saw a Companion. We'll wrap up
real quick. But I went to the theater this weekend
and saw a Companion with Jack Quaid and oh the
guy who plays Giermo on what we do in the showdos.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
I think it Jimmy Kimmel's Psychic.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
Yeah, that movie was great. You know Jack Quaid is
he was in He's Hueye and the Boys. He's the one,
the one normal dude in the team of crazy superheroes. Yeah,
I didn't know if you like saw a preview or.

Speaker 3 (57:20):
Something, show me a picture. Wait, hold on.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
I don't know. Take Jesse Eisenberg and stretch them out
like silly putty and then punch him in the nose.

Speaker 3 (57:30):
That's dude.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Yeah, he was really good in it. I was that
movie is. It's one of those movies where it's kind
of based on a twist, so you can't really say
anything about it in the preview. They only had the
one preview for it, ever, and it doesn't give anything

(57:54):
away as far as other than this is clearly a
fucked up relationship where this man appears to have complete
power over his girlfriend to the point where she's willing
to stick her hand into a flame and burn herself
at his command. Right, So you're thinking, like some Stepford

(58:17):
wife shit, you know these like she's totally brainwashed. It's
actually kind of it's I was gonna say, it's not
a murder mystery, like murder happens in it, but it's
more like murder and then see if we can get
away with it movie. But yeah, just very clever. Like

(58:41):
I said, there's not much I can say about it
except for the cast is great. It's an hour and
a half long. It's not a big investment.

Speaker 3 (58:49):
It's an easy watch.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
It's a super easy watch. It's not It's not the
type of twist where you're like, oh, I got to
think about like, okay, so he was that person all along,
and so well what does that make him?

Speaker 1 (59:05):
Yah?

Speaker 3 (59:07):
Take notes?

Speaker 2 (59:08):
Right, It's not like a spy thriller where they're like
they reveal that he's this person all along and you're like,
so what does that mean? Like I gotta go back
and watch the last hour of the movie and figure
out who this guy actually is. This is a it's
a it's it's the perfect twist in the way that,
in my idea, a perfect twist is obvious. Right, something

(59:32):
in this movie that you're watching for the last half
hour has not made any sense and I can't quite
put my finger on it. But these people aren't acting
normal or they're not reacting in normal ways to the environment.
Something is off, this relationship isn't right, and then that
thing happens and you're like, Okay, now it makes sense

(59:56):
everything that all these questions that I had for the
last half hour have snapped into place, and now I
understand the story fully. That's the type of twist it is.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
There, you go.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
It's not one that's adding in another complex layer. It's revealing.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
It's not like the end of Inception. I fucking hate
it's not I know it is that. I know it
is universally loved. I fucking hate the end of that movie.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Oh like Inception, ish fun your story. I like the
end of Inception quite a bit. I like the movie
quite a bit. It's all kind of vibes, though you know,
there's no real meal. I'm not watching it because I
really feel for Leonardo DiCaprio or his dead ex wife
or any of the people flying around in the van.

(01:00:42):
I I just like, I think that it's one of
the rare movies where it really is just about the
story structure, and that's what I appreciate the most about it.
Interstellar is similar, but is a ten out of ten
because everybody that is acting in that movie is perfect,

(01:01:05):
and I actually care about them. I actually care about
Like that scene on the planet on the gravity planet
where they lose thirty five years or something like that,
for being stuck on the planet for an hour is
devastating because of what it means to that character. That

(01:01:26):
guy went, he went on a quick mission. We'll get
down there, grab the test samples, and get back up
and we'll lose a couple years, but it'll be worth it.
And instead he is now as old as his daughter.
Imagine that. Imagine being a father and not through being
absent through circumstances beyond your control, you are out of

(01:01:49):
your kid's life for their entire life. That's fucking devastating. Yeah,
And to have it happen so easily in the course
of an hour, for a whole lifetime, to slip away
that way, it gives me chills just thinking.

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
About time travel.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Time travel, Well, he does time travel, right, he goes back.
He's the one pushing the books off the shelf. Okay,
so he goes into the black hole at the end
of it, right, he gets stuck, and they figure, well,
we might have a chance of getting you back before

(01:02:29):
time expires on Earth and everybody that you ever knew
was gone. But we'd have to like basically slingshot you
through this black hole. And when he does that, he
gets sucked inside and he experiences five dimensional space flattened
into a three dimensional world, meaning that the aliens who

(01:02:52):
are able to PRESI perceive and control five dimensions crew
fold two of those dimensions in to another to create
a faux three dimensional world that he so he can
at least perceive reality for what it appears to be.
And when he's in that black hole, that's when he

(01:03:13):
sees his daughter's room. Right, it's a cyclical movie. He
goes into space because of a sign from his daughter's room.
The books on the wall start falling and they fall
in a pattern that they decode as a location, and

(01:03:34):
that location is the hidden place where NASA went underground
when they thought when the whole world thought that NASA dissolved,
they went underground and continue to develop ways to get
off planet, and he ends up being the one guy
that they're looking for to pilot this crazy experimental ship
through a black hole. Through a wormhole, I should say,

(01:03:56):
to get to another galaxy, to look for another planet,
to live on. So he I know, follow out, dude,
Like he sent himself to follow He sent himself right
when he was in the black hole. He's the one
who gave the signal for the coordinates.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
Like, hey, come get me, No, like you gotta go. Oh,
It's like the sign is him just telling him he's
got to go.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
Yeah, you got to leave your daughter. Your daughter is
like eight years old and you got to go out
into space. Who knows if you'll ever come back. And
you got to say goodbye to And that was like,
who's going to tell you to do that except for yourself?
And it's a it's code for pride, right, it's code

(01:04:48):
for the things that we tell ourself in order to
do the things that we know we shouldn't do, what
we feel we must. When the person when a father
enlists with a family at home and decides to spend
two years in a desert and possibly die over there,
what makes a man make that decision other than himself

(01:05:09):
telling himself that this is what he must do right,
Nobody else can convince him of that. You have to
be convinced yourself that you're doing the right thing. Otherwise,
why would you leave your family? And risk your life
and you probably have no other option, but you have
to tell yourself. So that's essential. That's the metaphor that
I always took away from that movie was that, like,
you have to be the one to tell yourself. You

(01:05:30):
have to convince yourself that you are so great and
that you are the person that's needed for this mission,
because why else would you abandon your family, Why else
would you do things that would possibly destroy the thing
that you claim to love.

Speaker 3 (01:05:46):
It's about how ego can destroy your life.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
Yes, it's death. It is one percent about ego because
they don't save shit. Oh spoiler alert, nobody gets saved.
So anyway, watch Interstellar. It's a great movie. I went
and saw it in Imax recently and it was fantastic.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
Well, it sounds like they at least finish the story.
They do finish, and you got into something real quick.
You got into something exactly with Interstellar. I don't care
about those characters. I care about it. Did story finish?
That's really that's really my beef with the movie. Then
finished story?

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
Yeah, Well, I mean Tenant's the same way, right, Tenant
is circular.

Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
It sounds like me Christopher Nolan just won't get along. Yeah,
I'd just be upset at the end of all of
his movies. Yep, hey, don't be upset at the end
of this podcast, but yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
Christopher Nolan likes like structure as art, like story structures
art right, because like Inception starts on the outside and
spirals in and in and in and in until it
gets to a point in the center, Interstellar eats its
own tail. I want to say that Tenant does the same,

(01:06:54):
but it almost is linear, where it goes one way
and then comes back and stops at the midpoint. And uh,
Oppenheimer is a mountain. It goes up to a peak
and then goes down the other side. Everything's downhill. From
the last half of that movie. It's all senate hearings
and why did you do this? And self doubt and

(01:07:18):
leading up to it, it's all we must do this,
we do it for our country, and you know we
you know, Hey.

Speaker 3 (01:07:25):
There's a double period on the end of a sentence.
I'll tell you that one.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
Yes, full stop.

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
We went, hey, we did it twice, do we have
to do it a third time? And they went, no,
you do not point made.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
Did you not hear me? The first two times.

Speaker 3 (01:07:43):
Yes, like we no, it wasn't. It wasn't Tokyo, but
there was a third city plan that never. They were
like no, you know, no, nope, okay, we got it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
Yeah, all right, it just got two black eyes.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
Hey, Pan got froggy. We had to let him know.
We had to let him know.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
You could have had one.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
You came up in here.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
That's horrible.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
We were just chilling. You just came up in here,
came up into our house, right, fun, got loud in
our living room and shit, drug us into your ship.
And then finally we had enough, after like five years,
we were like, all right, enough of this ship.

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and I was like that price is going up. I
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Right, I do. I do always wonder how long the
clock is running, Like Apple podcasts being like free or
any any way to listen to podcasts being free.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
Well, the their newest thing is the Apple invites, which
I'm like, okay, in the Patreon No, it's just a
thing you can do, but I'm sure it costs money.
I mean, the same way you set up an event
on Facebook, you can now do that with Apple to share.
I don't know what. I imagine you can share it outside

(01:09:27):
of just the iPhone environment.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
It's another way to segment us from the android population.

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to his party. He sent me a green Bubble invite.
Yeah fuck yeah, send me blue Bubble invites or I
ain't coming.

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