Episode Highlights With Georgia
- How the inner critic turns off when we drink
- We think we have a drinking problem, yet it's often a thinking problem or a stress problem
- There's always an emotional reason for regular over-drinking
- Why some people drink to “become a better version of ourselves” if we believe we are more fun, relaxed, etc., when we drink
- How this also relates to food and eating
- Tools to train the deeper parts of the mind that it’s safe to be thin, attractive, etc.
- Addressing patterns like “I’ll do ___ when I lose the weight” and flipping the script
- A self-hypnosis technique you can try and use today for free at home right away
- How to use affirmations in the most powerful way including “it’s safe to be me”
- What the future technique is and how to use it
- Georgia's website - use code Katie001 for 25% off all progams (limited time!)
- Follow Georgia on Facebook, Instagram, and X.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, and welcome to the Mama's Mama Podcast. I'm Katie
from maamasmama dot com and I am back today with
Georgia Foster for round two, all about before taking that
first bite or sip, rewiring emotional habits around food, alcohol
and stress. And she is a leading voice in this work.
She's a clinical hypnotherapist and a voiced dialogue trainer who
(00:22):
is known as the go to expert in the UK
and Australia for everything related to food and alcohol issues
as well as inner critic and people please her work,
She's written many books developed courses around this and in
this episode she shares some immediately practical tools that you
can start doing today at home without taking a course
or learning anything additional. And I also link in the
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show notes to all of her resources that she has available,
so you can check those out there. But let's jump
in and join Georgia. Georgia, welcome back. Thank you for
being here again.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Thankitha having me well.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I'm so grateful to have you back, especially considering it
is late night where you are in Australia and we
had an amazing first episode together where you explained a
lot of things related to our inner critics, to people pleasing,
and to how hypnosis and even self hypnosis as a
tool can be really impactful, and especially for moms, how
we can use this to help kind of rewire our
inner critic and to build our own self esteem and resilience.
(01:19):
And in the second episode, I would love to go deeper,
especially on the topics of related to anything around emotional
eating or emotional drinking, because it seems like these can
be really important and relevant topics, especially for moms when
you touched on this in our first episode. But I
would love to kind of establish the foundation of how
these things kind of tie into those inner things that
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we talked about in the first episode, and especially how
they tie into stress. You mentioned in the first episode
it's the thinking before the drinking that's the problem, And
I would love to go deeper on that concept because
I don't I actually don't drink anymore, but I remember
when I did kind of those feelings that you touched
on in the first one, and I would love to
kind of really understand this topic and create some understanding
(02:01):
around impactful tools that can help if someone is in
that experience. Still.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Yeah, no, And I think it's a very taboo subject
drinking in particular, and you know, some people call it
mother's it'll helper that glass of wine. And in particular
talking about drinking is what's interesting about alcohol consumption and
food and sugar in particular as well. But just talking
about drinking for a moment is that when we drink alcohol,
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the inner critic goes away, right, So it's the chemical
reaction of alcohol. So I say to people, look, you
know what if your mom at home and the kids
are gone to bed, and that one glass of wine
tends to creep up to the second and the third
and before you know, like the bottle's nearly gone. Two
things are happening. The first thing is that you're through
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your day. Your mind and body have not had any
window of time to actually release the tension and the stress.
You've been on the goal all day. And because of
the lifestyle or you know, how you may manage your
life is after a period of time. As I said
in the first section, is that your mind is lazy.
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It works on default. So if you've changed your mind,
that a glass of wine or two or three is
the great way to relax, turn off from the day,
communicate because a lot of people drink to communicate, which
is not a good idea, which I'll talk about a
little bit more in a moment. That people just think
that they've got a drinking problem, they've got a thinking problem,
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they've got in a critic problem, they've got a stress
management tool issue. And these are all the points I'm saying.
Is you know that if you're drinking habitually more than
you really want to, there is absolutely nothing wrong with you.
I can assure you. It's just that you have got yourself.
You've literally your mind has trained itself that alcohol is
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your go to and it's great because it stops in
a critic, we relax. A lot of perfectionists will.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Be all nothing drink is. They can be really good
at staying.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
All week with alcohol free days, and then Friday hits
bang and they'll drink, you know, a bottle of wine,
whatever it is. And a lot of this drinking is
done in the home, so it's not like people around
in the bars, but most of this drinking is done
in the home, and so it goes under the radar
a lot. But the problem with the drinking because it's
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such a taboo subject and it's a very shameful subject
for a lot of people. That's why I want to
just stop all the shame and the girl, because that
causes the sneaky drinking. Okay, you know you know a story,
you know Klein, who had a second bottle going on
in the garage while when her husband is at home
and he was staying I think you're drinking. She likes,
She's like, I'm not drinking. Look a much as there,
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And then he found the second bottle and it was
all because she felt shamed and she was anxious.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
She was very fearful.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
She's in a high our job and all of a
sudden she was stay at home mum. She lost her
self esteem. She's feeling critical of herself and not have
any space for herself. So looking at the reasons why
people drink too much, there's always an emotional reason. People
don't want to drink too much. I mean, I'm not
saying that if you win the lottery tomorrow you're going
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to have too much champagne. But I'm talking about the
regular drinking that's causing the grief. And I think that's
why the subject. I like to keep it private. My
programs are all about you can use the programs in
your home. Nobody needs to know what you're doing. All
they'll see is that you are drinking less and you've
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actually improved your sense of self worth because underpending that
once again is if you're drinking to become a better
version of yourself, which a lot of people do, because
the critic whomen sober says you're boring, you need to drink.
You're not as interesting, you're not as funny, you're not
as sexy, you're not as relaxed. And if we believe
that proper and to be true, we will use alcohol
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as that crutch. But the problem is it can get
to be a bit of a problem. So I'm saying,
you know, let's get that in a critic in check
so that you can start to nurture yourself and start
to bring in those healthy coping strategies before you drink,
so that you're not using the alcohol as the solution
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to the emotional the emotional suppressing those emotions, because emotions
are there for a reason.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I mean, they're there. When you get your.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Inner critic in check, you realize that a lot of
what you've been doing and thinking and feeling has been
overtimed and overused, and that you can train the other
part of your mind, the prefront of cortex, to be
here so that you don't need that drink to relax.
You don't need I mean, a lot of people drink
to be intimate because they've got such you know, bad
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body dysmorphia, have low self esteem about themselves, feel they
can't relax. You know a lot of people, you know
won't go and have a coffee in the morning with
the moms after drop off because they feel so anxious,
so wait for the glass of wine. That's all social anxiety. Like,
social anxiety is such a big gig for so many people,
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and a lot of people will use alcohol as that
social crutch and have that wine sneaky glass while they're
getting ready and put their makeup on. And that said, Georgia,
you know, I'm really worried that if people knew what
I was doing. I'm like, you know what, there's nothing
wrong with you. You've just got yourself into a drinking
rut because of your negative state and too many stress
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chemicals in your body, and your brain has assumed that.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
This is the way, this is the solution.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
So I'm very proud of people who want to do
the sober root. I think it's fantastic, like yourself and
I think it's a fantastic idea.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
But a lot of people want the middle ground. You know,
they want to be.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Able to enjoy, you know, a glass of wine with
dinner and friends and you know, but feel that they're
managing it rather that the alcohol is managing.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Then, yeah, that makes so much sense. And I feel
like this also ties in to, or can to the
emotional eating component as well, especially when you talked about
the shame and the hiding it. It seems like this
is also a pattern that can show up when it
comes to eating food, especially certain foods that are considered
like not good for you or junk foods that people
can kind of have that similar reaction and pursue those
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things from an emotional place. In fact, this is something
that years ago, I also feel like I struggled with
and I got to like unpack over time, things related
to how certain foods were tied to comfort when I
was a kid, or to feelings of happiness or celebration
and things like that. It seems like there can be
also a lot of emotional ties when it comes to food,
and in some cases maybe this is even harder to
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address because at least like regular drinking in public at
least has some societal connotations that tend to make it
less you know, like less acceptable, whereas food is everywhere,
and it can be harder to address that, or at
least that was my experience. So can you explain how
this also can relate to food from people who maybe
don't drink but maybe feel that related to food or
certain foods.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah, no, very valid.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
The difference between drinking and food is you have to
eat to survive. And that's why a lot of people
who go on fast or those liquid shaped diets they
actually do really well because they don't have to think
about food. I have a reprieve from food, and I
often say that people who struggle with the weight or
struggle with emotional eating actually do live in fear of food.
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And they have this in a dialogue within a critic.
It's just going to make me thin, and it's just
going to make me fat. And so they you know,
on a week with their dieting and they're doing really well,
is then they have one extra almond or one extra
cookie or whatever, and then they go oh my god,
I've failed. And that's that perfections to all and nothing syndrome.
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But that once again is learnt behaviors are trained behavior
that food is about love and pleases love food. They're
very good at stretching one meal to five, friends can
drop over.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
They're always very accommodating, and pleases in.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Particular love food and they'll be there, may be great bakers.
They're very much into the decadence of food, and they're
very passionate about food, which is fantastic, but they often
use food as that way to retreat. But you know,
like drinking is, they're still especially with sugar high sugar
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content food is that will give a dopamine effect as well,
just like alcohol does. And the dopamine effect is what
people get hooked into. But the problem is the chemical
reaction of that high sugar food. We know, you get
the high and then you get the massive low and
then the depression can kick in. So what I train
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people to do with the the Weightless Mind program and
the Pajama dint, which is also more like about fitness,
is that what actually happens is when you become kinded
to yourself, like you said before, and it does take training.
When you're kinder to yourself, you make healthier choices, but
you also don't set things in stone as this is
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who I am for the rest of my life. That
you can go to a party and have birthday cake.
You can do what you want because you intuitively eat,
and intuitively eating means that food is something that you
see as an energy source of nutritional value, and that
you can eat whatever you want without worrying about you know,
(11:43):
I mean, meg on holiday, you might go to South
of France and have lots of cross ons.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
I don't know, put on a bit.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Of weight, but there's a balance to it and it's
not giving you that sense of shame or guilt. And
I think that a lot of people, and you know,
we really do have to look at the media and
how the diety industry has caused so much anxiety and
angst around being this perfect weight. And you know, I
(12:14):
think weight does fluctuate for people from time to time,
but it's really about honoring that food is there to
be nurtured and to be loved rather than to be
in fear of. And when people stop losing the fear
of what they're going to eat, which comes from training
them to tune out of the inner critic and being
present with what they eat. And a lot of people
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are not present when they eat. They're shoving it down.
They're shoving it down because of emotions. They're shoving it
down because they're trying to get this fix that they
look back and think, way was I when I had
that whole packet of cookies. They weren't even present. So
what I do is help people train to be present
when they're eating. And it may seem really silly, but
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bless your food, nurture it, give it lots of energy.
And this is all what we do with the hypnosis
is training that mind to bring in that, you know,
starting to nurture yourself by pleasing you rather than the
food being.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
That quick fix.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
And you know, anybody can look at the history of
their relationship with food. You have struggle with yoyo dieting
or big weight fluctuations. You know, for example, somebody who
has a lot of weight to lose and they lose like,
you know, twenty thirty pounds and then a year later
they put it back on. The reason why they put
it back on is because the inner world they lost
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the weight consciously okay, But when they lost the weight,
the inner mind hadn't caught up. The inner mind didn't
know is safe to be that weight, and hypnosis is
a fantastic tool to train the deeper part of the
mind that it's safe to intuitively eat, there's safe to
be slim, that it's safe to be sexy, that it's
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safe to be attractive. A lot of people keep the
weight on because they feel that they people say, oh,
I'll do this in my life when I've lost the weight, right, Well,
let's flip it. Build the self esteem first and then
the weight will come away. So the weight can be
the biggest stumbling block to actually making that change, you know.
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And people say, oh, Georgia, I just procrastinate. No, there's
just fear, pure fear, fear of the unknown. But hypnosis
can train the mind to And there's a particular technique
which I'd love to share with the group, and it's
just a beautiful, simple self hypnosis technique and you can
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do it. It doesn't have to be with food or alcoholic,
can be with anything. But what's really powerful, and this
has been it's smiling because it's a technique that a
lot of people don't want people to know, but I
love to share it because everybody has the resources to
do that.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
I mean when I was in London used to try
a lot of actors, performers on stage, a lot of
people in the theater world, the classical music world, a
lot of people in the sports performance.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
And this technique is really.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Powerful when it comes to looking into your future because
a really big top tick, the inner critic cannot see
into your future, can only see into your past. And
what hypnosis can do, it can when your eyes are
closed and in that lovely relaxed state, you can train
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the mind to look into the future and seeing somebody
feeling happy, feeling calm before they eat, feeling calm before
they drink, feeling calm before they go for the job interview,
feeling calm for they go to the school gates. And
the more you practice that in hypnosis, the more the
mind thinks is real and bringing in lots of love
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positive emotions. But everybody is visual and I really respect
that could be more kenesthetic where you feel touchy, where
you can feel the warmth of the sun on your
skin as you're wearing a beautiful dress you love to
wear where you're feeling good about yourself, starting to imagine
all of these outcomes. But past the event, this is
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what's really important. It's a bit like a client of mine.
He said to be in Georgia, I want you to
help me find a husband. I'm like, well, I can't
help you do that, but I can help you be
in a more confident, charismatic space to attract the right person.
And she said to me, I can't marry plumber. My
sister's married a plumber. I've got to have a corporate guy.
I'm like, okay, that's fine. She's now married to a plumber.
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But the point is, the reason why was because we've
got to change the energy. And when you are in hypnosis,
you start to attract the right situations, the right people.
And this tool is going past the event and seeing
yourself looking back on reflection that you don't know how
you got there, but you just see the end result.
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Because sometimes the universe has a better picture for you
than you think. You know, like the plumber, you know
the universe has a lot more to offer you than
you may think at this point in time, whether it's
that you know you deserve to earn this amount of
money when you could building this amount of money or
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you could have you know, I mean, I use this
technique a lot with women who I was struggling with
having babies, for example, when there is more a psychological
block than anything else, and taking them through the experience
of trusting that the body knows how to get pregnant,
but getting to the point where the journey has already
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been sold. But you get to the other side and
look back. And it's a fantastic tool. And I've used
it just so many times with very well known people
in different industries, and it can be used by everybody,
including myself and people listening to this right now. And
all you need is just, you know, wake up in
the morning, set your line five minutes earlier, and just
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close your eyes and just imagine your day going by
really well and coming home and feeling calm and just saying,
you know, my day is going to go really well.
I don't know what's going to happen, but I just
trust and just having that lovely inner dialogue and any
in a critic comic just put it in a cloud
and blow it away, send its energy somewhere else, and
then bring in the calm But another thing is affirmations
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are really powerful because the mind listens, so post it notes,
phone alarms, just a lovely mancha. It's safe to be me.
I deserve to feel well, I deserve to like myself.
I don't have to be perfect to achieve my goals.
Just little manches make such a difference because the mind
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does listen. But this particular technique is called the future technique,
and I highly recommend it. A really good example of
this is when you can't see something being resolved, and
then what you see is you look past the event
and see yourself as that moment has passed and being
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in a good space. It's incredible how much that thought
process will help something evolve in a much better way
than maybe you think. Whether it's a difficult relationship with somebody,
whether it's you want to get out of a job
that you're not really happy, and you know, it could
be anything really from losing weight to drinking less. And
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also to do with anxiety, because anxiety is such a
you know, it's a curse, and I think that you know,
realizing anxiety is in a critic and being able to
train your mind to tune out of it and look
into your future, because anxiety is about the fear of
the future. You know what's going to happen if I
do this, this or this, and so it's beautiful technique
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to train the mind and body to trust in the
destination that isn't. It isn't where you've been, that your
past is not a true reflection of where you're going.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
I love that that's and I love that you're fumingly
sharing something people can try literally starting today at home,
without even needing to work with a therapist. I think
those are so impactful, and especially like you talked about
in the beginning, if these are areas where someone might
have shame or like struggle with even the idea that
they need to work on this, being able to do
that at home, especially at first, it feels like it
can be really helpful in taking those first steps toward
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moving in a more positive direction when it comes to this,
and I feel like, like I said, this has been
something very deeply impactful for me. And another thing that
you've talked about is the idea of presence and kind
of presence also being seemingly an antidote to some of
these like emotional escapes related to food or to alcohol,
and I feel like also something very relevant and tied
into motherhood in that I know a lot of us
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can feel guilt if we're not fully present with our
kids or around things related to our presence with our families.
So I'd love to talk a little bit more about
presence and specifically how we can nurture that more in
our lives, especially as women and as moms.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Well, I think it's really important. Perfections in particular are
not very good at being in the present. They don't
like standing still. They're either thinking about what they did
yesterday or they're planning their future, and so perfectionist will
often use photo alcohol to be that moment to stop
and be present. There's a bit of guilt around it
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about being present as well, because you have to be
doing all the time right. So you know, one of
the great ways to do that is to just to
take five minutes literally nip to the bathroom, like just
pretend that you you know, just go to the bathroom
five minutes and just to do some deep valley breath work,
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you know, box breathing. You know it's with it, which
is you breathe in for five seconds and you hold
that and then you out, and you hold that for
five seconds, and you repeat that three times, and that
will start to calm your central nervous system down. It's
called box breathing, and box breathing is about going into
that space where you calm your central nervous system down
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to the point that you feel safe to be present.
Because people who are anxious shallow breathe.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
That's a fact.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
So when you deep breathe, you actually are asking yourself
to be more present and to be more thoughtful, and
in that moment is then you know it may sound
b cliche, but you know, if you can take the
time to go to a park to see the beauty
of the world, to and I know as a mum,
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we have lots of videos these days don't be about children.
But often I promise myself, you know, through the years
of them developing and as they continue to grow into adulthood,
is that that being present is.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Really really important.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
And often you know critic or the please like we
should be doing this or doing that with the perfectionist
is we just need to part it and just make
a date with yourself to spend five minutes with yourself
just to recalibrate to breathe and decide to be present. Now,
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that does take practice, but the more you practice it,
the more your mind becomes familiar with it. And you know,
when things become overwhelming and you feel like you're not present,
it's a great practice just to take that little bit
of time out and look, five minutes is all you need,
not even that, but you know, it's a nice time
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to do that. And also another way to do that
is before you want to eat and you want to drink,
have that little five minute moment because that will recalibrate
and you think, oh, I don't need that drink, I
don't need that food. If you've given yourself the time
to pause, to retreat, to really have some big you know,
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graceful with yourself and take some time out to be present.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
And it's interesting.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
I call it the space between your thoughts, and it
is you need to create more space because one thought
bang bang bang Bang bank bank bany because where have
I been in this?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Well?
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Where have I been? But you have to Nobody can
do this for you, but you, nobody else can do it.
It's got to be you that can make this change.
So that a little bit of five minutes, taking that
breather and pausing and retreating and giving yourselves some space
between those negative thoughts of those driving thoughts or those
should be doing thing thoughts, it makes a massive difference.
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And when you do that, and even if you can,
like if you're in a situation in your mom at
home and before I pick the kids up from school,
is just after lunch, when you feeling a bit tired
after having some food, is have that siesta. Put some
lovely music on. Classical music mozart is very powerful and
it's been proven to be incredibly supportive to brainway for training,
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which means mind training, and just imagine yourself in beautiful
different situations where you're calm and confident. All these things
lead to the road of being more present. You know,
you don't need to have my hypnosis tracks. You can
do that yourself. If you wanted to put some lovely
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angel music on, or you know, some meditation music, just
to take a bit of time out will make a
huge difference. In actual fact that twenty minutes will give
you more time. That's what's been proven as well, because
you've given yourself time to recalibrate, to rejuvenate, to have
a clearer mind. And arrested body.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
I feel like you've shared so many immediately actionable and
helpful tips in this episode. And I'll of course link
to your work, and you've offered a discount on all
of your courses for people as well. But for anyone
listening on the go, where can be people find you
and keep learning from you?
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (26:03):
My website is Georgia Foster dot com. Georgia as in
the state of America, and I say Foster is in
the beer Georgafoster dot com and I'm based in Australia.
That I'm obviously, you can buy my programs anywhere in
the world.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
They're all very.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Private and they're all available online if anybody is interested
in my supplement as well. It's a fantastic liver supplement
for people who drink alcohol, which really puts back what
alcohol depletes the body of probotics or the vitamin B family, the.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Things actually make you anxious.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
So if you are worried about your drinking, obviously I'm
here to help you support to drink less and emotional
over eating. The program The Pajama Died and the Weightless
Mind are there, but I'm here. Any questions please dis
drop me an email and I will get back to
you within twenty four.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Hours amazing, and all of those links will be in
the show notes at one aswama dot com. If you
are listening on the go Georgia, this is been phenomenal.
You are just incredible and I'm so grateful for your time,
especially so late at night in your time zone. Thank
you so much for being here and for everything you
shared today well.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Thank you for having mede be an absolute pleasure.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
And thank you as always for listening and sharing your
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even more moms and families can benefit from the information.
I really appreciate your time and thanks as always for listening.
Hello, and welcome to the Mama's Mama Podcast. I'm Katie
from maamasmama dot com and I am back today with
Georgia Foster for round two, all about before taking that
first bite or sip, rewiring emotional habits around food, alcohol
and stress. And she is a leading voice in this work.
She's a clinical hypnotherapist and a voiced dialogue trainer who
(00:22):
is known as the go to expert in the UK
and Australia for everything related to food and alcohol issues
as well as inner critic and people please her work,
She's written many books developed courses around this and in
this episode she shares some immediately practical tools that you
can start doing today at home without taking a course
or learning anything additional. And I also link in the
(00:44):
show notes to all of her resources that she has available,
so you can check those out there. But let's jump
in and join Georgia. Georgia, welcome back. Thank you for
being here again.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Thankitha having me well.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I'm so grateful to have you back, especially considering it
is late night where you are in Australia and we
had an amazing first episode together where you explained a
lot of things related to our inner critics, to people pleasing,
and to how hypnosis and even self hypnosis as a
tool can be really impactful, and especially for moms, how
we can use this to help kind of rewire our
inner critic and to build our own self esteem and resilience.
(01:19):
And in the second episode, I would love to go deeper,
especially on the topics of related to anything around emotional
eating or emotional drinking, because it seems like these can
be really important and relevant topics, especially for moms when
you touched on this in our first episode. But I
would love to kind of establish the foundation of how
these things kind of tie into those inner things that
(01:41):
we talked about in the first episode, and especially how
they tie into stress. You mentioned in the first episode
it's the thinking before the drinking that's the problem, And
I would love to go deeper on that concept because
I don't I actually don't drink anymore, but I remember
when I did kind of those feelings that you touched
on in the first one, and I would love to
kind of really understand this topic and create some understanding
(02:01):
around impactful tools that can help if someone is in
that experience. Still.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Yeah, no, And I think it's a very taboo subject
drinking in particular, and you know, some people call it
mother's it'll helper that glass of wine. And in particular
talking about drinking is what's interesting about alcohol consumption and
food and sugar in particular as well. But just talking
about drinking for a moment is that when we drink alcohol,
(02:29):
the inner critic goes away, right, So it's the chemical
reaction of alcohol. So I say to people, look, you
know what if your mom at home and the kids
are gone to bed, and that one glass of wine
tends to creep up to the second and the third
and before you know, like the bottle's nearly gone. Two
things are happening. The first thing is that you're through
(02:52):
your day. Your mind and body have not had any
window of time to actually release the tension and the stress.
You've been on the goal all day. And because of
the lifestyle or you know, how you may manage your
life is after a period of time. As I said
in the first section, is that your mind is lazy.
(03:15):
It works on default. So if you've changed your mind,
that a glass of wine or two or three is
the great way to relax, turn off from the day,
communicate because a lot of people drink to communicate, which
is not a good idea, which I'll talk about a
little bit more in a moment. That people just think
that they've got a drinking problem, they've got a thinking problem,
(03:35):
they've got in a critic problem, they've got a stress
management tool issue. And these are all the points I'm saying.
Is you know that if you're drinking habitually more than
you really want to, there is absolutely nothing wrong with you.
I can assure you. It's just that you have got yourself.
You've literally your mind has trained itself that alcohol is
(03:57):
your go to and it's great because it stops in
a critic, we relax. A lot of perfectionists will.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Be all nothing drink is. They can be really good
at staying.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
All week with alcohol free days, and then Friday hits
bang and they'll drink, you know, a bottle of wine,
whatever it is. And a lot of this drinking is
done in the home, so it's not like people around
in the bars, but most of this drinking is done
in the home, and so it goes under the radar
a lot. But the problem with the drinking because it's
(04:32):
such a taboo subject and it's a very shameful subject
for a lot of people. That's why I want to
just stop all the shame and the girl, because that
causes the sneaky drinking. Okay, you know you know a story,
you know Klein, who had a second bottle going on
in the garage while when her husband is at home
and he was staying I think you're drinking. She likes,
She's like, I'm not drinking. Look a much as there,
(04:53):
And then he found the second bottle and it was
all because she felt shamed and she was anxious.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
She was very fearful.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
She's in a high our job and all of a
sudden she was stay at home mum. She lost her
self esteem. She's feeling critical of herself and not have
any space for herself. So looking at the reasons why
people drink too much, there's always an emotional reason. People
don't want to drink too much. I mean, I'm not
saying that if you win the lottery tomorrow you're going
(05:19):
to have too much champagne. But I'm talking about the
regular drinking that's causing the grief. And I think that's
why the subject. I like to keep it private. My
programs are all about you can use the programs in
your home. Nobody needs to know what you're doing. All
they'll see is that you are drinking less and you've
(05:41):
actually improved your sense of self worth because underpending that
once again is if you're drinking to become a better
version of yourself, which a lot of people do, because
the critic whomen sober says you're boring, you need to drink.
You're not as interesting, you're not as funny, you're not
as sexy, you're not as relaxed. And if we believe
that proper and to be true, we will use alcohol
(06:02):
as that crutch. But the problem is it can get
to be a bit of a problem. So I'm saying,
you know, let's get that in a critic in check
so that you can start to nurture yourself and start
to bring in those healthy coping strategies before you drink,
so that you're not using the alcohol as the solution
(06:24):
to the emotional the emotional suppressing those emotions, because emotions
are there for a reason.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I mean, they're there. When you get your.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Inner critic in check, you realize that a lot of
what you've been doing and thinking and feeling has been
overtimed and overused, and that you can train the other
part of your mind, the prefront of cortex, to be
here so that you don't need that drink to relax.
You don't need I mean, a lot of people drink
to be intimate because they've got such you know, bad
(06:55):
body dysmorphia, have low self esteem about themselves, feel they
can't relax. You know a lot of people, you know
won't go and have a coffee in the morning with
the moms after drop off because they feel so anxious,
so wait for the glass of wine. That's all social anxiety. Like,
social anxiety is such a big gig for so many people,
(07:16):
and a lot of people will use alcohol as that
social crutch and have that wine sneaky glass while they're
getting ready and put their makeup on. And that said, Georgia,
you know, I'm really worried that if people knew what
I was doing. I'm like, you know what, there's nothing
wrong with you. You've just got yourself into a drinking
rut because of your negative state and too many stress
(07:38):
chemicals in your body, and your brain has assumed that.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
This is the way, this is the solution.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
So I'm very proud of people who want to do
the sober root. I think it's fantastic, like yourself and
I think it's a fantastic idea.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
But a lot of people want the middle ground. You know,
they want to be.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Able to enjoy, you know, a glass of wine with
dinner and friends and you know, but feel that they're
managing it rather that the alcohol is managing.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Then, yeah, that makes so much sense. And I feel
like this also ties in to, or can to the
emotional eating component as well, especially when you talked about
the shame and the hiding it. It seems like this
is also a pattern that can show up when it
comes to eating food, especially certain foods that are considered
like not good for you or junk foods that people
can kind of have that similar reaction and pursue those
(08:30):
things from an emotional place. In fact, this is something
that years ago, I also feel like I struggled with
and I got to like unpack over time, things related
to how certain foods were tied to comfort when I
was a kid, or to feelings of happiness or celebration
and things like that. It seems like there can be
also a lot of emotional ties when it comes to food,
and in some cases maybe this is even harder to
(08:51):
address because at least like regular drinking in public at
least has some societal connotations that tend to make it
less you know, like less acceptable, whereas food is everywhere,
and it can be harder to address that, or at
least that was my experience. So can you explain how
this also can relate to food from people who maybe
don't drink but maybe feel that related to food or
certain foods.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah, no, very valid.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
The difference between drinking and food is you have to
eat to survive. And that's why a lot of people
who go on fast or those liquid shaped diets they
actually do really well because they don't have to think
about food. I have a reprieve from food, and I
often say that people who struggle with the weight or
struggle with emotional eating actually do live in fear of food.
(09:35):
And they have this in a dialogue within a critic.
It's just going to make me thin, and it's just
going to make me fat. And so they you know,
on a week with their dieting and they're doing really well,
is then they have one extra almond or one extra
cookie or whatever, and then they go oh my god,
I've failed. And that's that perfections to all and nothing syndrome.
(09:56):
But that once again is learnt behaviors are trained behavior
that food is about love and pleases love food. They're
very good at stretching one meal to five, friends can
drop over.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
They're always very accommodating, and pleases in.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Particular love food and they'll be there, may be great bakers.
They're very much into the decadence of food, and they're
very passionate about food, which is fantastic, but they often
use food as that way to retreat. But you know,
like drinking is, they're still especially with sugar high sugar
(10:36):
content food is that will give a dopamine effect as well,
just like alcohol does. And the dopamine effect is what
people get hooked into. But the problem is the chemical
reaction of that high sugar food. We know, you get
the high and then you get the massive low and
then the depression can kick in. So what I train
(10:58):
people to do with the the Weightless Mind program and
the Pajama dint, which is also more like about fitness,
is that what actually happens is when you become kinded
to yourself, like you said before, and it does take training.
When you're kinder to yourself, you make healthier choices, but
you also don't set things in stone as this is
(11:20):
who I am for the rest of my life. That
you can go to a party and have birthday cake.
You can do what you want because you intuitively eat,
and intuitively eating means that food is something that you
see as an energy source of nutritional value, and that
you can eat whatever you want without worrying about you know,
(11:43):
I mean, meg on holiday, you might go to South
of France and have lots of cross ons.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
I don't know, put on a bit.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Of weight, but there's a balance to it and it's
not giving you that sense of shame or guilt. And
I think that a lot of people, and you know,
we really do have to look at the media and
how the diety industry has caused so much anxiety and
angst around being this perfect weight. And you know, I
(12:14):
think weight does fluctuate for people from time to time,
but it's really about honoring that food is there to
be nurtured and to be loved rather than to be
in fear of. And when people stop losing the fear
of what they're going to eat, which comes from training
them to tune out of the inner critic and being
present with what they eat. And a lot of people
(12:35):
are not present when they eat. They're shoving it down.
They're shoving it down because of emotions. They're shoving it
down because they're trying to get this fix that they
look back and think, way was I when I had
that whole packet of cookies. They weren't even present. So
what I do is help people train to be present
when they're eating. And it may seem really silly, but
(12:56):
bless your food, nurture it, give it lots of energy.
And this is all what we do with the hypnosis
is training that mind to bring in that, you know,
starting to nurture yourself by pleasing you rather than the
food being.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
That quick fix.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
And you know, anybody can look at the history of
their relationship with food. You have struggle with yoyo dieting
or big weight fluctuations. You know, for example, somebody who
has a lot of weight to lose and they lose like,
you know, twenty thirty pounds and then a year later
they put it back on. The reason why they put
it back on is because the inner world they lost
(13:37):
the weight consciously okay, But when they lost the weight,
the inner mind hadn't caught up. The inner mind didn't
know is safe to be that weight, and hypnosis is
a fantastic tool to train the deeper part of the
mind that it's safe to intuitively eat, there's safe to
be slim, that it's safe to be sexy, that it's
(13:59):
safe to be attractive. A lot of people keep the
weight on because they feel that they people say, oh,
I'll do this in my life when I've lost the weight, right, Well,
let's flip it. Build the self esteem first and then
the weight will come away. So the weight can be
the biggest stumbling block to actually making that change, you know.
(14:23):
And people say, oh, Georgia, I just procrastinate. No, there's
just fear, pure fear, fear of the unknown. But hypnosis
can train the mind to And there's a particular technique
which I'd love to share with the group, and it's
just a beautiful, simple self hypnosis technique and you can
(14:44):
do it. It doesn't have to be with food or alcoholic,
can be with anything. But what's really powerful, and this
has been it's smiling because it's a technique that a
lot of people don't want people to know, but I
love to share it because everybody has the resources to
do that.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
I mean when I was in London used to try
a lot of actors, performers on stage, a lot of
people in the theater world, the classical music world, a
lot of people in the sports performance.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
And this technique is really.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Powerful when it comes to looking into your future because
a really big top tick, the inner critic cannot see
into your future, can only see into your past. And
what hypnosis can do, it can when your eyes are
closed and in that lovely relaxed state, you can train
(15:35):
the mind to look into the future and seeing somebody
feeling happy, feeling calm before they eat, feeling calm before
they drink, feeling calm before they go for the job interview,
feeling calm for they go to the school gates. And
the more you practice that in hypnosis, the more the
mind thinks is real and bringing in lots of love
(15:57):
positive emotions. But everybody is visual and I really respect
that could be more kenesthetic where you feel touchy, where
you can feel the warmth of the sun on your
skin as you're wearing a beautiful dress you love to
wear where you're feeling good about yourself, starting to imagine
all of these outcomes. But past the event, this is
(16:17):
what's really important. It's a bit like a client of mine.
He said to be in Georgia, I want you to
help me find a husband. I'm like, well, I can't
help you do that, but I can help you be
in a more confident, charismatic space to attract the right person.
And she said to me, I can't marry plumber. My
sister's married a plumber. I've got to have a corporate guy.
I'm like, okay, that's fine. She's now married to a plumber.
(16:40):
But the point is, the reason why was because we've
got to change the energy. And when you are in hypnosis,
you start to attract the right situations, the right people.
And this tool is going past the event and seeing
yourself looking back on reflection that you don't know how
you got there, but you just see the end result.
(17:03):
Because sometimes the universe has a better picture for you
than you think. You know, like the plumber, you know
the universe has a lot more to offer you than
you may think at this point in time, whether it's
that you know you deserve to earn this amount of
money when you could building this amount of money or
(17:24):
you could have you know, I mean, I use this
technique a lot with women who I was struggling with
having babies, for example, when there is more a psychological
block than anything else, and taking them through the experience
of trusting that the body knows how to get pregnant,
but getting to the point where the journey has already
(17:45):
been sold. But you get to the other side and
look back. And it's a fantastic tool. And I've used
it just so many times with very well known people
in different industries, and it can be used by everybody,
including myself and people listening to this right now. And
all you need is just, you know, wake up in
the morning, set your line five minutes earlier, and just
(18:09):
close your eyes and just imagine your day going by
really well and coming home and feeling calm and just saying,
you know, my day is going to go really well.
I don't know what's going to happen, but I just
trust and just having that lovely inner dialogue and any
in a critic comic just put it in a cloud
and blow it away, send its energy somewhere else, and
then bring in the calm But another thing is affirmations
(18:32):
are really powerful because the mind listens, so post it notes,
phone alarms, just a lovely mancha. It's safe to be me.
I deserve to feel well, I deserve to like myself.
I don't have to be perfect to achieve my goals.
Just little manches make such a difference because the mind
(18:54):
does listen. But this particular technique is called the future technique,
and I highly recommend it. A really good example of
this is when you can't see something being resolved, and
then what you see is you look past the event
and see yourself as that moment has passed and being
(19:14):
in a good space. It's incredible how much that thought
process will help something evolve in a much better way
than maybe you think. Whether it's a difficult relationship with somebody,
whether it's you want to get out of a job
that you're not really happy, and you know, it could
be anything really from losing weight to drinking less. And
(19:38):
also to do with anxiety, because anxiety is such a
you know, it's a curse, and I think that you know,
realizing anxiety is in a critic and being able to
train your mind to tune out of it and look
into your future, because anxiety is about the fear of
the future. You know what's going to happen if I
do this, this or this, and so it's beautiful technique
(20:01):
to train the mind and body to trust in the
destination that isn't. It isn't where you've been, that your
past is not a true reflection of where you're going.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
I love that that's and I love that you're fumingly
sharing something people can try literally starting today at home,
without even needing to work with a therapist. I think
those are so impactful, and especially like you talked about
in the beginning, if these are areas where someone might
have shame or like struggle with even the idea that
they need to work on this, being able to do
that at home, especially at first, it feels like it
can be really helpful in taking those first steps toward
(20:35):
moving in a more positive direction when it comes to this,
and I feel like, like I said, this has been
something very deeply impactful for me. And another thing that
you've talked about is the idea of presence and kind
of presence also being seemingly an antidote to some of
these like emotional escapes related to food or to alcohol,
and I feel like also something very relevant and tied
into motherhood in that I know a lot of us
(20:57):
can feel guilt if we're not fully present with our
kids or around things related to our presence with our families.
So I'd love to talk a little bit more about
presence and specifically how we can nurture that more in
our lives, especially as women and as moms.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Well, I think it's really important. Perfections in particular are
not very good at being in the present. They don't
like standing still. They're either thinking about what they did
yesterday or they're planning their future, and so perfectionist will
often use photo alcohol to be that moment to stop
and be present. There's a bit of guilt around it
(21:31):
about being present as well, because you have to be
doing all the time right. So you know, one of
the great ways to do that is to just to
take five minutes literally nip to the bathroom, like just
pretend that you you know, just go to the bathroom
five minutes and just to do some deep valley breath work,
(21:53):
you know, box breathing. You know it's with it, which
is you breathe in for five seconds and you hold
that and then you out, and you hold that for
five seconds, and you repeat that three times, and that
will start to calm your central nervous system down. It's
called box breathing, and box breathing is about going into
that space where you calm your central nervous system down
(22:15):
to the point that you feel safe to be present.
Because people who are anxious shallow breathe.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
That's a fact.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
So when you deep breathe, you actually are asking yourself
to be more present and to be more thoughtful, and
in that moment is then you know it may sound
b cliche, but you know, if you can take the
time to go to a park to see the beauty
of the world, to and I know as a mum,
(22:43):
we have lots of videos these days don't be about children.
But often I promise myself, you know, through the years
of them developing and as they continue to grow into adulthood,
is that that being present is.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Really really important.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
And often you know critic or the please like we
should be doing this or doing that with the perfectionist
is we just need to part it and just make
a date with yourself to spend five minutes with yourself
just to recalibrate to breathe and decide to be present. Now,
(23:17):
that does take practice, but the more you practice it,
the more your mind becomes familiar with it. And you know,
when things become overwhelming and you feel like you're not present,
it's a great practice just to take that little bit
of time out and look, five minutes is all you need,
not even that, but you know, it's a nice time
(23:39):
to do that. And also another way to do that
is before you want to eat and you want to drink,
have that little five minute moment because that will recalibrate
and you think, oh, I don't need that drink, I
don't need that food. If you've given yourself the time
to pause, to retreat, to really have some big you know,
(24:02):
graceful with yourself and take some time out to be present.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
And it's interesting.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
I call it the space between your thoughts, and it
is you need to create more space because one thought
bang bang bang Bang bank bank bany because where have
I been in this?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Well?
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Where have I been? But you have to Nobody can
do this for you, but you, nobody else can do it.
It's got to be you that can make this change.
So that a little bit of five minutes, taking that
breather and pausing and retreating and giving yourselves some space
between those negative thoughts of those driving thoughts or those
should be doing thing thoughts, it makes a massive difference.
(24:42):
And when you do that, and even if you can,
like if you're in a situation in your mom at
home and before I pick the kids up from school,
is just after lunch, when you feeling a bit tired
after having some food, is have that siesta. Put some
lovely music on. Classical music mozart is very powerful and
it's been proven to be incredibly supportive to brainway for training,
(25:06):
which means mind training, and just imagine yourself in beautiful
different situations where you're calm and confident. All these things
lead to the road of being more present. You know,
you don't need to have my hypnosis tracks. You can
do that yourself. If you wanted to put some lovely
(25:28):
angel music on, or you know, some meditation music, just
to take a bit of time out will make a
huge difference. In actual fact that twenty minutes will give
you more time. That's what's been proven as well, because
you've given yourself time to recalibrate, to rejuvenate, to have
a clearer mind. And arrested body.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
I feel like you've shared so many immediately actionable and
helpful tips in this episode. And I'll of course link
to your work, and you've offered a discount on all
of your courses for people as well. But for anyone
listening on the go, where can be people find you
and keep learning from you?
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (26:03):
My website is Georgia Foster dot com. Georgia as in
the state of America, and I say Foster is in
the beer Georgafoster dot com and I'm based in Australia.
That I'm obviously, you can buy my programs anywhere in
the world.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
They're all very.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Private and they're all available online if anybody is interested
in my supplement as well. It's a fantastic liver supplement
for people who drink alcohol, which really puts back what
alcohol depletes the body of probotics or the vitamin B family, the.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Things actually make you anxious.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
So if you are worried about your drinking, obviously I'm
here to help you support to drink less and emotional
over eating. The program The Pajama Died and the Weightless
Mind are there, but I'm here. Any questions please dis
drop me an email and I will get back to
you within twenty four.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Hours amazing, and all of those links will be in
the show notes at one aswama dot com. If you
are listening on the go Georgia, this is been phenomenal.
You are just incredible and I'm so grateful for your time,
especially so late at night in your time zone. Thank
you so much for being here and for everything you
shared today well.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Thank you for having mede be an absolute pleasure.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
And thank you as always for listening and sharing your
most valuable resources, your time, your energy, and your attention
with us today. We're both so grateful that you did
and I hope that you will join me again on
the next episode of the Wellness Mama podcast. If you're
enjoying these interviews, would you please take two minutes to
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(27:34):
this helps more people to find the podcast, which means
even more moms and families can benefit from the information.
I really appreciate your time and thanks as always for listening.
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