October 14, 2025 • 27 mins
Episode Highlights With Linda
- Why she is so passionate about breast health after her mother and sister both got breast cancer six months apart and her doctor wanter her to have a double mastectomy
- This led to research for her and ways to protect and take care of breast health
- How she got a ND degree and began researching breast health and has done this for 18 years
- The surprising connection between oral health and breast health
- Importance of salt and how this connects to breast health
- How being low in minerals can lead to breast problems
- Minerals are one of the most important things in our bodies and nothing works without minerals
- WAVwatch - use code wellnessmama for a discount
- BRAS Thermography
- Heal your Body by Louise Hay
- Bream Minerals
- Eidon Minerals
- The Calcium Lie
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, and welcome to the Wellness Mama podcast. I'm Katie
Fromalnaessmama dot com and this episode, Round two with Linda
bember Olsen is all about breast health, salt, calcium, and
health strategies for protecting breast health. And we get to
go into some fascinating directions with this one today, including
her personal story and why this is such a passion
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for her, as well as some counterintuitive strategies that are
really helpful for as she talks about protecting breast health
ahead of their being problems, as well as some things
like the calcium myth and some things we've been told
that we're incorrect about salt, even about screening for breast cancer,
and so much more. There's a lot of links in
the show notes for this one. This is Round two
with Linda, who has a fascinating story and a wealth
(00:43):
of knowledge, so let's join her now. Linda, welcome back.
Thank you for being here again.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Well, thanks for having me again. It's very fun to
talk to you back and forth. I actually don't know
where you're located at, but I'm in Kansas City.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
So oh nice. I love.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I have some of my favorite memories in Kansas City
at a little children's museum with my kids when they
were little. I'm in Florida, and if you guys missed it,
Linda and I already got to have a fascinating conversation
about sound and frequencies and how those can be extremely
safe and incredibly effective and health supportive as well. I
will link to that in the show notes. If you
missed it, highly recommend it. And in this conversation, I
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wanted to go deep on something Linda, that you touched
on briefly in our first episode that I feel like
is really relevant to a lot of the female listeners,
which is the topic of breast health. And I know
this is a topic that is close to home for
you because of your personal experience with some of your
loved ones. So I would love for you to kind
of walk us deeper into that story of how did
you become interested in this, what you built because of
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your family's experience with this, and what you wish had
existed then that now does exist.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Things to you well.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I don't want to repeat too much, but basically, I'm
very passionate about women's breast health. I started a business
called BRA's Breast Research Awareness and support, and that was
directly a result of my mother and sister being diagnosed
with breast cancer about six months apart. And then my
medical doctors just wanted me to have a doubleness sectomy
and go on with my life.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
And I just thought it was ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
And I know there was a lot more words that
I was thinking in my mind when they told me
that I should do that, because they hadn't tested me
at all. I did not have anything wrong with me.
And so I chose to complete my teaching career at
that time and go ahead and get an Indie certification
and bought some different types of testing tools and begin
working with women's breast health. And so for the last
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eighteen years or so, I have worked with breast health
and try to educate women on some natural things that
they can do.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
To protect themselves.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
And the medical community is not telling us any of this.
All they are telling us is, you know, all kinds
of ideas. I don't want to go into that too much,
you know, I can't out if we need to.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
But I see so.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Many women who come in and they are in a
quandary because they have been told some of the same
vice and they are not quite sure what to do. Now,
I'm not necessarily talking about the C word. I'm just
talking about basic ideas, you know. I know when I
was eighteen, I came up with a lunth in my
breast and I went to the doctor and it was
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in a small country town, you know, in eastern Kansas.
And seriously, I was in the hospital that night having
that lump removed. Now, how scary is that, you know?
And that's the kind of thing that they still do
fifty years later. They do those kind of things to us,
and someone might come in and say, well, I have
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stage zero breast cancer, but they want me to do
again a double misectomy or whatever. So what are some
things that women could be doing? What are they not
teaching us? That's a huge component of what my business does.
And you can look us up online bras And then
there's one more word to it, thermography brosgraphy. And so
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what I learned those eighteen years ago is that there
is a different way for us to monitor our breast
health and it's called thermography. So it is a camera
system that's a heat seeking camera or you know, video
pictures images, that kind of thing. I got to stutter
there a little bit. But it is definitely heat seeking,
and it takes pictures that are definitely telling us information
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about your body without being invasive and without X rays.
So any woman that's ever had a mammogram knows how
scary a mammogram is. For instance, my mother had had
about thirty mammograms. My sister at the exact same age.
I shouldn't say that, who was a year and a
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half older than I was.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
I don't know where that came. Anyway, she'd had twenty.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Some mammograms and I had had one, and we were
so close together an agent, I'm going.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Why would you have all of those?
Speaker 2 (04:58):
You know, I went for my very first mammogram when
I was forty and said I would never do that again.
I did not like being squished, you know, to a
quarter of an inch thick. I intuitively knew that if
I had a tumor or something that it was going
to pop. You know, there isn't one woman who doesn't
think that instinctively. And then when you do that, it
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can spread all kinds of things. So the thermography is
a system that does not do that, and then doctors
can give you more and more information. So my business
actually takes those images, sends them to medical doctors to interpret,
and then they send them back for us to share
with you. So in the meantime, when somebody comes into
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my office, I'm giving them all kinds of things that
they can do to protect their breast health. So it's
very important and it doesn't take a lot of time
to do this particular idea. So I encourage you all
to look at thermography. I do have about twelve different
franchise around the US Bras Thermography, and it has the
different locations for those. But it is so important for
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us to learn several ideas about our breast health, and
I'm not sure if I should go on with those
yet or not.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Well, I'll definitely link to the things you're talking about
in the show notes for any of you guys listening
on the go if you're out walking, all those links
will be at Wellnessmama dot com. But yeah, I love
that thermography is an option. I'm at the age where
I have not yet gone through the age where they
would be pushing mammograms, but I had, through research already
decided when I get there, thermography is going to be
the direction I go, or like the non invasive options.
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And I love your approach in talking about protection. I
think that's the perfect word for this, rather than waiting
till there's a problem, and rather than doing these kind
of invasive things that might actually lead to more problems
than they solve. So I have a feeling you were
about to jump into this. But what are some of
the often overlooked ways that we can support and protect
our breast health before there's a problem.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Well that is a big question because as I worked
with women, I was just blown away on all the
things that were in their lives, you know, just basic
day to day things that could cause a problem. So
I took some images of a woman and her breasts
were just bright red. They're not supposed to be They're
supposed to be light green or blue on our imaging system.
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And so just talking to her, I'm asking about her
daily life, you know, lifestyle. She was drinking eight cans
of diet pop a day, that's all she drank. Well
that's all I needed to know. It's like, oh, okay,
can you stop drinking that and you know, give it
a couple of weeks and come back in sure enough,
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she came back in two weeks and her breasts were
fairly normal looking with just two weeks of staying away
from aspar team. You know, that's that was That's a
huge problem that women are not realizing.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
A different example is a lady who was going through
a lot of trauma. She had lost her father, she
had lost some other people. There was all kinds of
emotional trauma, and her breasts were the same. They were
giving us clues that something was going on. And so
I was able to note this to the medical doctors
when they did her interpretation, and we were kind of
(08:14):
on a wait and see idea. And sure enough, once
she got through the trauma, you know, the overload with
losing someone special in her life, that problem went away.
But many women are not able to get over that trauma,
you know, and so they can you can see how
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our breasts do react to emotions, how that it just
gets worse and worse, and then we can have all
kinds of very very heavy problems with our breasts.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
We also have people who.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Do not realize anything is going on. Their breasts may
be sore and they come in and I do a
different kind of testing on them, which is some of
them that I was able to harness to put together
for the wave watch that we talked about earlier. But
I could see from my testing on a machine called
(09:10):
an MSA and you could look that up at iht
bio dot com and it is a tool that has
about fifty thousand frequencies on it. And one lady it
told me that she might have E. Coli in her system,
and I said, you know, that is really connected with
breast problems. So we actually had E. Coli as a
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selection on the wave watch at that particular point in time.
I could narrow it down. And she put the wave
watch on and she immediately felt it go, you know,
in her body, felt some energetic you know, connections kind
of went through her stomach and then it zipped up
into her left for or her breast that was giving
her trouble at that time. And then she said, it
(09:52):
just felt like a worm just kind of slowly just
you know, going all through her breast and then.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
It just zipped off.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Now what woman wouldn't think that something had changed, you know,
So something as different as a bacteria is connected with
breast cancer and they're not telling us that, so we're
not getting.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Rid of it.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
The same way with epstein bar virus. Women come in
all the time and they know sometimes that they have
epstein bar virus.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
So a couple of women used to.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Wave watch on epstein bar virus and definitely, you know,
felt something you know, moved through their body and then
into their breast area and seemed to their feeling was
that it seemed to have cleaned it out or changed something,
reacted with it, rebalanced it, whatever words you might want
to say. But the list goes on and on. I
had a woman come in who was bit by a horse,
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you know, and it didn't it didn't heal correctly.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
So she was having all kinds of problems.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
So the list is endless of things that we are
having trouble with. Now, the one that I find the most,
that is the most interesting to me because it's the
easiest to teach, is that they are eight teeth connected
with our breast health. There's two up and two down
on each side towards the back, and these teeth can
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drain down into our breast and be problematic.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Is that something you.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Knew only from like a reference in a book a
long time ago, and I had read this stat that
there's a link between root canals and certain teeth potentially
and breast cancer. So and I helped found an oral
health company.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I love.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
That's one of my pet research topics, and the oral
microbiome and the interplay between that and our whole body.
It's so fascinating to me. But I would love for
you to give us an in depth explanation of that,
because I feel like this is not talked about nearly enough.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
No, and so, like gear one of the you work
in the field, but like ninety nine point nine percent
of the women who come into my office have never
heard of that idea. So I had a younger lady,
seriously about twenty who came in and she had a
lunk in her breast. Well, all we had to do
was take one thermogram image of her and we could
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see that her tooth was white hot and that there
was a trail of white down to the breast slump.
Same thing with a man who came in, and he
came in because his wife had done thermography and he
now had a you know, something in his chest and
easy to see.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
You take a picture and.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
You can see that their teeth or one tooth is
infected and that is draining down to the chest area
for men. So so many times men do have breast
cancer because of their teeth.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
You know, it is.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Very amazing the materials that have been put in that
can drain down, whether it's mercury, or whether it's the ceramics,
or whether it's just an infection, and it can be
there for many, many years.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Now.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I had another gentleman whose wife had actually died of
breast cancer, and he said, oh, no, I don't say that.
He said she died of dental cancer. And he said
when they went to the dentist in the middle of
her breast treatment, which was, you know, a medical treatment,
she was doing the chemo and radiation whatever. But at
that point in time, she just went in. She wasn't
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having anything wrong with her teeth. She couldn't feel a
thing going on at all. But when they started looking
at it, he said, basically, pus shot out and hit
the ceiling with force from a tooth that she wasn't
even having any trouble with. And he told me, and
you know, he looked it up and it was the
one of the eight teeth that women can have trouble with.
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So we need to be so very careful with our
teeth or our breast tell but for every organ in
our system, because every tooth will affect eight to ten
different organs as it drains through our body. So it
is a huge problem. And the more materials that they
put in our mouth, the worse it can be. So
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that is something that women need to be educated about.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
That's super fascinating and I feel like another one you
briefly mentioned that it seems very important to understand in
depth is the connection with emotions as well. I know
this is not as understood in maybe the Western world,
but I've heard that in Chinese medicine, for instance, there
seems to be a connection and an understanding of breast
health being connected to certain emotions and kind of like
I believe, I read ones like overgiving, like there's certain
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emotions connected to kind of struggles with breast health. Like
I said, that's not as common here in the West.
But from what you've researched on what you've seen, is
there an emotional connection as well that can show up
when women are having rest related issues.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Oh, I definitely think so. I don't know if any
of you have seen Louise Hayes. She you know, has
written several books and she basically has it listed in
her book, every area in your body and what if
you are having an acre pain with it? What emotion
it is tied to? And our breasts are tied to
being over you know, over carrying kind of like a
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type a personality. You know, a person who is very
minutely into every detail in their life plus other people's lives.
You know, they are so in that that they are
losing track of some of the things that they need
to be doing for their own health. So an overachiever
sometimes can be also in that area. But overcaring, overwhelming,
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you know, there's probably a couple of different other classifications.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
But I can't think of the exact wordon.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
That I want to say, but that definitely ties into
over nurturing. I think that was the word I wanted
to say, over nurturing. And then we think about it
with our breasts and how as a mother we're nurturing,
you know, but we don't let that go. Sometimes when
our kids start to grow up, we are still over
nurturing them and tied to too much and giving ourselves
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health problems.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah, it seems like we're also going to find just
like as we're learning more and more at how Einstein
said the future of medicine is frequencies, I think also
we're going to learn more about the really important connection
between our emotions and our kind of spiritual emotional mental
health and our physical health, and how those things are
not separate at all. And I love that you bring
this into the conversation as well. Another topic I love
to delve into anytime I get the chance that it
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sounds like we might be aligned on as well as
the topic of salt, especially like unrefined sea salt and
how this can be beneficial. I feel like this is
something that's gotten an completely undeserved bad rap from the
medical community in past decades, and if anything, from what
I've seen both in my own anecdotal experience and someone's
reading I've done, is we might be actually doing ourselves
a tremendous disservice by avoiding some things like salt like
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sunshine that I would love to really delve into the
salt topic today because I feel like a lot of
women have perhaps been told to keep their sodium low,
and it sounds like there's more to the story even
when it comes to protecting our breast health.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
I have a I think it's a sixteen page booklet
for breast health, and one page in there is all
for salt. It's all about salt because salt connects with
your breast health. So if you are low in minerals,
you're going to have some breast problems of some kind,
that's for sure. And we have not been taught where
our minerals should come from. Minerals are the most important
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thing in your body, if you ask me, because nothing
works unless we have those minerals in the correct balance.
So our ancient cultures knew about salt, my goodness. Why
did they have wars over salt? Why did they trade salt?
Why did they pay wages in salt? The list goes
on and on, and so today we have been taught
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that salt is bad, and we put better salt on
our highways then.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
We put in our body. You know.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
That's the kind of ideal I like to throw out,
you know. So in my office I teach women how
to muscle test or do kinesiology, and the product I
do it with is salt to prove to them how
low they are on basic minerals. Now, if you've ever
looked at Himalayan salt, you'll see it's a red color.
If you look at a Celtic or Celtic salt, it's gray.
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And if you look in these are my favorite three salts.
And another one is the Redman's Real Salt. It's kind
of a pinky, you know, sand color, little bit different.
And why are they different colored? We haven't even been
taught the basics. They are different colored because they have
mineral different mineral combinations. So, in my testing over thousands
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of women, and I've never seen this written anywhere else,
but the Himalayan salt seems to be the best for
women who are still having their cycle. Why because the red,
dark pinkish color is iron that we need. Okay, So
women my age, I developed my wave watch when I retired,
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you know, right during COVID, and when I retired, well,
so I'm seventy two.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I don't need that salt.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
I need the Red Men's Real Salt for the mineral
content in it. And so I've seen that correlation. Anyone
who is past their cycle needs the Red Men's Real Salt,
and men usually tend to need the Celtic Celtic salt
and so that is very important that they have the
right kind of salt for them, right proportion of minerals.
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Now today we're all in to take this mineral by
this mineral, you know, and you've got eighty bottles of
minerals right if you would listen to how they want
us to do it, and that is exactly wrong because
that puts something all out of proportion, you know. I
mean I even hate to take magnesium by itself because
I don't want to put something out of proportion. That's
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what we did with calcium. We decided that calcium was
a great mineral, and so we put calcium in anything.
So now calcium is what building up in our veins.
And so what are they testing for when they're doing
all this testing to see if there's calcium deposits in
your veins, in your heart, Because we have over compensated
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for calcium. So that's why the salt is so important.
And God gave it to us. He gave it to
us in correct proportions. And if you have muscle tested
and you know the salt that is the best for
you at that point in time. It could change, but
if you know that proportion, you are better off to
take a type of salt that has up to eighty
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minerals in it, rather than buy a mineral component that
might have five minerals in it. It's going to throw
something out of whack eventually, So be very careful with
just buying minerals here and there. Buy a multipurpose mineral
product that you believe in, that your body tests for,
and I just do it simpoly.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
I use salt.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
I use a quarter to a teaspoon of salt at
different times during the day.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
I love this.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah, I've talked before about how I feel like some
big missing pieces. When we started talking about calories and
macros is, we forgot about micronutrients and minerals. And I
think if we just switched our focus instead of like
trying to restrict calories, But how do I really, like
just like bombard my system load up on micronutrients and minerals.
How do I maximize the nutrient density of the foods
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I'm going to eat? Our body tends to respond really
well to that, at least in my experience. And one
tip I've found personally helpful is that I keep a
quart sized mason jar on my nightstand with some salt
in it so it dissolves completely overnight. And then first
thing in the morning, before I touch a screen, before
I drink caffeine, before I do anything else, I go
outside in the morning sunlight and drink that water and
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stand on the ground. And it is drastic how much
your hormones and your energy levels respond when you start
the day with natural light and minerals, and those are
essentially almost free because salt is so inexpensive. I love
that there's like simple tips like this that really do
make a profound difference. I even did a solo episode
recently on how there's evidence that even just a tiny
pinch of baking soda in that water as well, actually
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can have a really profound effect on the body. But
all of these things are not like really talked about
that much because there's not a lot of profit in them.
Nobody's going to become wealthy making a pharmaceutical to sell
you salt. But it's available to all of us.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Our ancient cultures and even our grandparents do all of this.
I mean, I keep looking at things that my mother
taught me, you know, and it's like, wow, how.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Did she learn that? You know?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I mean, shut an al vira plant, you know, fifty
years ago, and todds to you is it for burns?
Speaker 3 (22:01):
You know?
Speaker 2 (22:01):
And what did her grandparents teach her? You know? So
we have been taught different things. They use baking soda,
they use salt, they use vinegar, and we should go
back to all of those things.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Definitely agreed, And I love things even simple tips like
naturally fermented foods like saberkraut. There's a lot of great
salt in there along with some probiotics, and that's easy
to just add a teeny bit to every meal and
get that nutrient density. I love that you also brought
up calcium, because I feel like we've heard for too
long like, oh, calcium is so important for bones, and
it's actually seems much more nuanced than that. Like you said,
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it's not just calcium, it's actually calcium, collagen, silicoon, magnesium,
the interplay of all the minerals in the right balance.
So simply taking calcium alone is not going to protect
our bones to begin with. But from my understanding, you
read the book The Calcium Lie, which I have on
my list as well, and I'll link to in the
show notes. But I would love to just dispel the
calcium myth a little bit more, because I feel like
a lot of people are still being told more calcium
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is better.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Right, And just like I was mentioning, that book actually
probably was of the most prophetic and you know that
I've read for years because it really just went back
to the idea that we need to take balanced minerals.
So that's why, you know, the salt is definitely I
talk about frequencies and I talk about salt.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
It's for my two passionate subjects.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
But we have not been indoctrinated to the fact that
if our minerals are out of balance, then nothing works.
I mean, we have to have the right balance of
minerals to have our amino acids to work for everything
in our body. And we're not paying attention to that.
Kids are getting no salt today, No wonder they have allergies.
Guess what one of the worst things is when they're
allergic or they have problems with gluten intolerance salt. So
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if you give them more natural salt, they can sometimes
get over their gluten intolerance. It's a salt efficiency.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
How sad, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
So even if we are getting salt today in our
process foods, the own kind of salt. So one of
the best things to have on your table is the
unrefined sea salt, you know, and it's so huge. I
buy big bags of salt for different purposes. It is
very important that each child does know the difference in
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the salt and how they can take it. That they
should be very, very careful with the white salt that's
usually on tables in people's homes and especially at restaurants.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Agreed, And I'm putting links to post I've written, as
well as resources you have on a lot of these
things that we've talked about so people can dive in
and keep learning more. And I know over to the
end of our time, but I would love any last
minute tips you have that you feel like are really
effective that women can implement, simple like little lifestyle upgrades
like we talked about just adding salt to your water
being huge, or for women listening, if there were only
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a couple baby steps that women could take, where would
you have them start?
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Oh, I have so many, I'm not quite sure how
to simplify this to outt I really do like I'm
just going to go back to the wave watch, and
I know we haven't talked about it a lot, but
it is a product that I developed. And when I
was in the prototype stage, you know, and working with
women's breast health, nine women came in who just happened
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to have a breast slump and they wore the wave
Watch for.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Breast health.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Nine times, nine different women breast slumps went away in
about thirty minutes.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Now, I know that sounds over.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
The top, and it was over the top for me too.
I'm going, oh my goodness, the watch is working. This
was my prototype stage. So women, we need to be
very careful, but look around for some different things that
you can do for your breast health, and that would
be the easiest one. One of the ladies who was
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one of the nine was a nurse and she basically
said that her lump had been there for six months.
It was almond sized and again within the thirty minutes
it went down to tapioca sized. And so changes can
be made with new tools that we might not even
think about. So and then I also have some different
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tools called there's one called a biomat that women have
laid on and it's very important. It has infrared heat
and frequencies from amethyst crystals in it, and another idea
would be iodine. I suggest that women get luls iodine
and especially if they're having breast problems, rub it directly
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onto their breasts. You know, if you know that you
are not sensitive to iodine, that is a big you know,
make sure that you know that, And that would be
just some easy ideas right there. Look at different tools
they are out there, and then iodine would be one
to add with the salt amazing well.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
I will make sure those things are all linked in
the show notes. In both of our episodes together, I've
learned so much from you. All linked to our first one. Also,
if you guys missed that one, highly recommend it as well.
And I'm so glad that our paths crossed and that
I now have a wave watch that I've been using
almost constantly since I met you. And I'm so grateful
for your time today and for all that you shared,
for your obvious passionate about this, and all the wisdom
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that you have imparted. So thank you so much for
your time. Thank you, and thank you as always for
listening and for sharing your most valuable resources, your time,
your energy, and your attention with us today We're both
so grateful that you did, and I hope that you
will join me again on the next episode at the
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and thanks as always for listening.
Hello, and welcome to the Wellness Mama podcast. I'm Katie
Fromalnaessmama dot com and this episode, Round two with Linda
bember Olsen is all about breast health, salt, calcium, and
health strategies for protecting breast health. And we get to
go into some fascinating directions with this one today, including
her personal story and why this is such a passion
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for her, as well as some counterintuitive strategies that are
really helpful for as she talks about protecting breast health
ahead of their being problems, as well as some things
like the calcium myth and some things we've been told
that we're incorrect about salt, even about screening for breast cancer,
and so much more. There's a lot of links in
the show notes for this one. This is Round two
with Linda, who has a fascinating story and a wealth
(00:43):
of knowledge, so let's join her now. Linda, welcome back.
Thank you for being here again.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Well, thanks for having me again. It's very fun to
talk to you back and forth. I actually don't know
where you're located at, but I'm in Kansas City.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
So oh nice. I love.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I have some of my favorite memories in Kansas City
at a little children's museum with my kids when they
were little. I'm in Florida, and if you guys missed it,
Linda and I already got to have a fascinating conversation
about sound and frequencies and how those can be extremely
safe and incredibly effective and health supportive as well. I
will link to that in the show notes. If you
missed it, highly recommend it. And in this conversation, I
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wanted to go deep on something Linda, that you touched
on briefly in our first episode that I feel like
is really relevant to a lot of the female listeners,
which is the topic of breast health. And I know
this is a topic that is close to home for
you because of your personal experience with some of your
loved ones. So I would love for you to kind
of walk us deeper into that story of how did
you become interested in this, what you built because of
(01:42):
your family's experience with this, and what you wish had
existed then that now does exist.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Things to you well.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I don't want to repeat too much, but basically, I'm
very passionate about women's breast health. I started a business
called BRA's Breast Research Awareness and support, and that was
directly a result of my mother and sister being diagnosed
with breast cancer about six months apart. And then my
medical doctors just wanted me to have a doubleness sectomy
and go on with my life.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
And I just thought it was ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
And I know there was a lot more words that
I was thinking in my mind when they told me
that I should do that, because they hadn't tested me
at all. I did not have anything wrong with me.
And so I chose to complete my teaching career at
that time and go ahead and get an Indie certification
and bought some different types of testing tools and begin
working with women's breast health. And so for the last
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eighteen years or so, I have worked with breast health
and try to educate women on some natural things that
they can do.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
To protect themselves.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
And the medical community is not telling us any of this.
All they are telling us is, you know, all kinds
of ideas. I don't want to go into that too much,
you know, I can't out if we need to.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
But I see so.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Many women who come in and they are in a
quandary because they have been told some of the same
vice and they are not quite sure what to do. Now,
I'm not necessarily talking about the C word. I'm just
talking about basic ideas, you know. I know when I
was eighteen, I came up with a lunth in my
breast and I went to the doctor and it was
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in a small country town, you know, in eastern Kansas.
And seriously, I was in the hospital that night having
that lump removed. Now, how scary is that, you know?
And that's the kind of thing that they still do
fifty years later. They do those kind of things to us,
and someone might come in and say, well, I have
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stage zero breast cancer, but they want me to do
again a double misectomy or whatever. So what are some
things that women could be doing? What are they not
teaching us? That's a huge component of what my business does.
And you can look us up online bras And then
there's one more word to it, thermography brosgraphy. And so
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what I learned those eighteen years ago is that there
is a different way for us to monitor our breast
health and it's called thermography. So it is a camera
system that's a heat seeking camera or you know, video
pictures images, that kind of thing. I got to stutter
there a little bit. But it is definitely heat seeking,
and it takes pictures that are definitely telling us information
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about your body without being invasive and without X rays.
So any woman that's ever had a mammogram knows how
scary a mammogram is. For instance, my mother had had
about thirty mammograms. My sister at the exact same age.
I shouldn't say that, who was a year and a
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half older than I was.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
I don't know where that came. Anyway, she'd had twenty.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Some mammograms and I had had one, and we were
so close together an agent, I'm going.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Why would you have all of those?
Speaker 2 (04:58):
You know, I went for my very first mammogram when
I was forty and said I would never do that again.
I did not like being squished, you know, to a
quarter of an inch thick. I intuitively knew that if
I had a tumor or something that it was going
to pop. You know, there isn't one woman who doesn't
think that instinctively. And then when you do that, it
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can spread all kinds of things. So the thermography is
a system that does not do that, and then doctors
can give you more and more information. So my business
actually takes those images, sends them to medical doctors to interpret,
and then they send them back for us to share
with you. So in the meantime, when somebody comes into
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my office, I'm giving them all kinds of things that
they can do to protect their breast health. So it's
very important and it doesn't take a lot of time
to do this particular idea. So I encourage you all
to look at thermography. I do have about twelve different
franchise around the US Bras Thermography, and it has the
different locations for those. But it is so important for
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us to learn several ideas about our breast health, and
I'm not sure if I should go on with those
yet or not.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Well, I'll definitely link to the things you're talking about
in the show notes for any of you guys listening
on the go if you're out walking, all those links
will be at Wellnessmama dot com. But yeah, I love
that thermography is an option. I'm at the age where
I have not yet gone through the age where they
would be pushing mammograms, but I had, through research already
decided when I get there, thermography is going to be
the direction I go, or like the non invasive options.
(06:33):
And I love your approach in talking about protection. I
think that's the perfect word for this, rather than waiting
till there's a problem, and rather than doing these kind
of invasive things that might actually lead to more problems
than they solve. So I have a feeling you were
about to jump into this. But what are some of
the often overlooked ways that we can support and protect
our breast health before there's a problem.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Well that is a big question because as I worked
with women, I was just blown away on all the
things that were in their lives, you know, just basic
day to day things that could cause a problem. So
I took some images of a woman and her breasts
were just bright red. They're not supposed to be They're
supposed to be light green or blue on our imaging system.
(07:16):
And so just talking to her, I'm asking about her
daily life, you know, lifestyle. She was drinking eight cans
of diet pop a day, that's all she drank. Well
that's all I needed to know. It's like, oh, okay,
can you stop drinking that and you know, give it
a couple of weeks and come back in sure enough,
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she came back in two weeks and her breasts were
fairly normal looking with just two weeks of staying away
from aspar team. You know, that's that was That's a
huge problem that women are not realizing.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
A different example is a lady who was going through
a lot of trauma. She had lost her father, she
had lost some other people. There was all kinds of
emotional trauma, and her breasts were the same. They were
giving us clues that something was going on. And so
I was able to note this to the medical doctors
when they did her interpretation, and we were kind of
(08:14):
on a wait and see idea. And sure enough, once
she got through the trauma, you know, the overload with
losing someone special in her life, that problem went away.
But many women are not able to get over that trauma,
you know, and so they can you can see how
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our breasts do react to emotions, how that it just
gets worse and worse, and then we can have all
kinds of very very heavy problems with our breasts.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
We also have people who.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Do not realize anything is going on. Their breasts may
be sore and they come in and I do a
different kind of testing on them, which is some of
them that I was able to harness to put together
for the wave watch that we talked about earlier. But
I could see from my testing on a machine called
(09:10):
an MSA and you could look that up at iht
bio dot com and it is a tool that has
about fifty thousand frequencies on it. And one lady it
told me that she might have E. Coli in her system,
and I said, you know, that is really connected with
breast problems. So we actually had E. Coli as a
(09:31):
selection on the wave watch at that particular point in time.
I could narrow it down. And she put the wave
watch on and she immediately felt it go, you know,
in her body, felt some energetic you know, connections kind
of went through her stomach and then it zipped up
into her left for or her breast that was giving
her trouble at that time. And then she said, it
(09:52):
just felt like a worm just kind of slowly just
you know, going all through her breast and then.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
It just zipped off.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Now what woman wouldn't think that something had changed, you know,
So something as different as a bacteria is connected with
breast cancer and they're not telling us that, so we're
not getting.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Rid of it.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
The same way with epstein bar virus. Women come in
all the time and they know sometimes that they have
epstein bar virus.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
So a couple of women used to.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Wave watch on epstein bar virus and definitely, you know,
felt something you know, moved through their body and then
into their breast area and seemed to their feeling was
that it seemed to have cleaned it out or changed something,
reacted with it, rebalanced it, whatever words you might want
to say. But the list goes on and on. I
had a woman come in who was bit by a horse,
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you know, and it didn't it didn't heal correctly.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
So she was having all kinds of problems.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
So the list is endless of things that we are
having trouble with. Now, the one that I find the most,
that is the most interesting to me because it's the
easiest to teach, is that they are eight teeth connected
with our breast health. There's two up and two down
on each side towards the back, and these teeth can
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drain down into our breast and be problematic.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Is that something you.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Knew only from like a reference in a book a
long time ago, and I had read this stat that
there's a link between root canals and certain teeth potentially
and breast cancer. So and I helped found an oral
health company.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I love.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
That's one of my pet research topics, and the oral
microbiome and the interplay between that and our whole body.
It's so fascinating to me. But I would love for
you to give us an in depth explanation of that,
because I feel like this is not talked about nearly enough.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
No, and so, like gear one of the you work
in the field, but like ninety nine point nine percent
of the women who come into my office have never
heard of that idea. So I had a younger lady,
seriously about twenty who came in and she had a
lunk in her breast. Well, all we had to do
was take one thermogram image of her and we could
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see that her tooth was white hot and that there
was a trail of white down to the breast slump.
Same thing with a man who came in, and he
came in because his wife had done thermography and he
now had a you know, something in his chest and
easy to see.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
You take a picture and.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
You can see that their teeth or one tooth is
infected and that is draining down to the chest area
for men. So so many times men do have breast
cancer because of their teeth.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
You know, it is.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Very amazing the materials that have been put in that
can drain down, whether it's mercury, or whether it's the ceramics,
or whether it's just an infection, and it can be
there for many, many years.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Now.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I had another gentleman whose wife had actually died of
breast cancer, and he said, oh, no, I don't say that.
He said she died of dental cancer. And he said
when they went to the dentist in the middle of
her breast treatment, which was, you know, a medical treatment,
she was doing the chemo and radiation whatever. But at
that point in time, she just went in. She wasn't
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having anything wrong with her teeth. She couldn't feel a
thing going on at all. But when they started looking
at it, he said, basically, pus shot out and hit
the ceiling with force from a tooth that she wasn't
even having any trouble with. And he told me, and
you know, he looked it up and it was the
one of the eight teeth that women can have trouble with.
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So we need to be so very careful with our
teeth or our breast tell but for every organ in
our system, because every tooth will affect eight to ten
different organs as it drains through our body. So it
is a huge problem. And the more materials that they
put in our mouth, the worse it can be. So
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that is something that women need to be educated about.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
That's super fascinating and I feel like another one you
briefly mentioned that it seems very important to understand in
depth is the connection with emotions as well. I know
this is not as understood in maybe the Western world,
but I've heard that in Chinese medicine, for instance, there
seems to be a connection and an understanding of breast
health being connected to certain emotions and kind of like
I believe, I read ones like overgiving, like there's certain
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emotions connected to kind of struggles with breast health. Like
I said, that's not as common here in the West.
But from what you've researched on what you've seen, is
there an emotional connection as well that can show up
when women are having rest related issues.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Oh, I definitely think so. I don't know if any
of you have seen Louise Hayes. She you know, has
written several books and she basically has it listed in
her book, every area in your body and what if
you are having an acre pain with it? What emotion
it is tied to? And our breasts are tied to
being over you know, over carrying kind of like a
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type a personality. You know, a person who is very
minutely into every detail in their life plus other people's lives.
You know, they are so in that that they are
losing track of some of the things that they need
to be doing for their own health. So an overachiever
sometimes can be also in that area. But overcaring, overwhelming,
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you know, there's probably a couple of different other classifications.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
But I can't think of the exact wordon.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
That I want to say, but that definitely ties into
over nurturing. I think that was the word I wanted
to say, over nurturing. And then we think about it
with our breasts and how as a mother we're nurturing,
you know, but we don't let that go. Sometimes when
our kids start to grow up, we are still over
nurturing them and tied to too much and giving ourselves
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health problems.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah, it seems like we're also going to find just
like as we're learning more and more at how Einstein
said the future of medicine is frequencies, I think also
we're going to learn more about the really important connection
between our emotions and our kind of spiritual emotional mental
health and our physical health, and how those things are
not separate at all. And I love that you bring
this into the conversation as well. Another topic I love
to delve into anytime I get the chance that it
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sounds like we might be aligned on as well as
the topic of salt, especially like unrefined sea salt and
how this can be beneficial. I feel like this is
something that's gotten an completely undeserved bad rap from the
medical community in past decades, and if anything, from what
I've seen both in my own anecdotal experience and someone's
reading I've done, is we might be actually doing ourselves
a tremendous disservice by avoiding some things like salt like
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sunshine that I would love to really delve into the
salt topic today because I feel like a lot of
women have perhaps been told to keep their sodium low,
and it sounds like there's more to the story even
when it comes to protecting our breast health.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
I have a I think it's a sixteen page booklet
for breast health, and one page in there is all
for salt. It's all about salt because salt connects with
your breast health. So if you are low in minerals,
you're going to have some breast problems of some kind,
that's for sure. And we have not been taught where
our minerals should come from. Minerals are the most important
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thing in your body, if you ask me, because nothing
works unless we have those minerals in the correct balance.
So our ancient cultures knew about salt, my goodness. Why
did they have wars over salt? Why did they trade salt?
Why did they pay wages in salt? The list goes
on and on, and so today we have been taught
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that salt is bad, and we put better salt on
our highways then.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
We put in our body. You know.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
That's the kind of ideal I like to throw out,
you know. So in my office I teach women how
to muscle test or do kinesiology, and the product I
do it with is salt to prove to them how
low they are on basic minerals. Now, if you've ever
looked at Himalayan salt, you'll see it's a red color.
If you look at a Celtic or Celtic salt, it's gray.
(17:52):
And if you look in these are my favorite three salts.
And another one is the Redman's Real Salt. It's kind
of a pinky, you know, sand color, little bit different.
And why are they different colored? We haven't even been
taught the basics. They are different colored because they have
mineral different mineral combinations. So, in my testing over thousands
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of women, and I've never seen this written anywhere else,
but the Himalayan salt seems to be the best for
women who are still having their cycle. Why because the red,
dark pinkish color is iron that we need. Okay, So
women my age, I developed my wave watch when I retired,
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you know, right during COVID, and when I retired, well,
so I'm seventy two.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I don't need that salt.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
I need the Red Men's Real Salt for the mineral
content in it. And so I've seen that correlation. Anyone
who is past their cycle needs the Red Men's Real Salt,
and men usually tend to need the Celtic Celtic salt
and so that is very important that they have the
right kind of salt for them, right proportion of minerals.
(19:01):
Now today we're all in to take this mineral by
this mineral, you know, and you've got eighty bottles of
minerals right if you would listen to how they want
us to do it, and that is exactly wrong because
that puts something all out of proportion, you know. I
mean I even hate to take magnesium by itself because
I don't want to put something out of proportion. That's
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what we did with calcium. We decided that calcium was
a great mineral, and so we put calcium in anything.
So now calcium is what building up in our veins.
And so what are they testing for when they're doing
all this testing to see if there's calcium deposits in
your veins, in your heart, Because we have over compensated
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for calcium. So that's why the salt is so important.
And God gave it to us. He gave it to
us in correct proportions. And if you have muscle tested
and you know the salt that is the best for
you at that point in time. It could change, but
if you know that proportion, you are better off to
take a type of salt that has up to eighty
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minerals in it, rather than buy a mineral component that
might have five minerals in it. It's going to throw
something out of whack eventually, So be very careful with
just buying minerals here and there. Buy a multipurpose mineral
product that you believe in, that your body tests for,
and I just do it simpoly.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
I use salt.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
I use a quarter to a teaspoon of salt at
different times during the day.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
I love this.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah, I've talked before about how I feel like some
big missing pieces. When we started talking about calories and
macros is, we forgot about micronutrients and minerals. And I
think if we just switched our focus instead of like
trying to restrict calories, But how do I really, like
just like bombard my system load up on micronutrients and minerals.
How do I maximize the nutrient density of the foods
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I'm going to eat? Our body tends to respond really
well to that, at least in my experience. And one
tip I've found personally helpful is that I keep a
quart sized mason jar on my nightstand with some salt
in it so it dissolves completely overnight. And then first
thing in the morning, before I touch a screen, before
I drink caffeine, before I do anything else, I go
outside in the morning sunlight and drink that water and
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stand on the ground. And it is drastic how much
your hormones and your energy levels respond when you start
the day with natural light and minerals, and those are
essentially almost free because salt is so inexpensive. I love
that there's like simple tips like this that really do
make a profound difference. I even did a solo episode
recently on how there's evidence that even just a tiny
pinch of baking soda in that water as well, actually
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can have a really profound effect on the body. But
all of these things are not like really talked about
that much because there's not a lot of profit in them.
Nobody's going to become wealthy making a pharmaceutical to sell
you salt. But it's available to all of us.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Our ancient cultures and even our grandparents do all of this.
I mean, I keep looking at things that my mother
taught me, you know, and it's like, wow, how.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Did she learn that? You know?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I mean, shut an al vira plant, you know, fifty
years ago, and todds to you is it for burns?
Speaker 3 (22:01):
You know?
Speaker 2 (22:01):
And what did her grandparents teach her? You know? So
we have been taught different things. They use baking soda,
they use salt, they use vinegar, and we should go
back to all of those things.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Definitely agreed, And I love things even simple tips like
naturally fermented foods like saberkraut. There's a lot of great
salt in there along with some probiotics, and that's easy
to just add a teeny bit to every meal and
get that nutrient density. I love that you also brought
up calcium, because I feel like we've heard for too
long like, oh, calcium is so important for bones, and
it's actually seems much more nuanced than that. Like you said,
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it's not just calcium, it's actually calcium, collagen, silicoon, magnesium,
the interplay of all the minerals in the right balance.
So simply taking calcium alone is not going to protect
our bones to begin with. But from my understanding, you
read the book The Calcium Lie, which I have on
my list as well, and I'll link to in the
show notes. But I would love to just dispel the
calcium myth a little bit more, because I feel like
a lot of people are still being told more calcium
(22:55):
is better.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Right, And just like I was mentioning, that book actually
probably was of the most prophetic and you know that
I've read for years because it really just went back
to the idea that we need to take balanced minerals.
So that's why, you know, the salt is definitely I
talk about frequencies and I talk about salt.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
It's for my two passionate subjects.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
But we have not been indoctrinated to the fact that
if our minerals are out of balance, then nothing works.
I mean, we have to have the right balance of
minerals to have our amino acids to work for everything
in our body. And we're not paying attention to that.
Kids are getting no salt today, No wonder they have allergies.
Guess what one of the worst things is when they're
allergic or they have problems with gluten intolerance salt. So
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if you give them more natural salt, they can sometimes
get over their gluten intolerance. It's a salt efficiency.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
How sad, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
So even if we are getting salt today in our
process foods, the own kind of salt. So one of
the best things to have on your table is the
unrefined sea salt, you know, and it's so huge. I
buy big bags of salt for different purposes. It is
very important that each child does know the difference in
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the salt and how they can take it. That they
should be very, very careful with the white salt that's
usually on tables in people's homes and especially at restaurants.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Agreed, And I'm putting links to post I've written, as
well as resources you have on a lot of these
things that we've talked about so people can dive in
and keep learning more. And I know over to the
end of our time, but I would love any last
minute tips you have that you feel like are really
effective that women can implement, simple like little lifestyle upgrades
like we talked about just adding salt to your water
being huge, or for women listening, if there were only
(24:50):
a couple baby steps that women could take, where would
you have them start?
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Oh, I have so many, I'm not quite sure how
to simplify this to outt I really do like I'm
just going to go back to the wave watch, and
I know we haven't talked about it a lot, but
it is a product that I developed. And when I
was in the prototype stage, you know, and working with
women's breast health, nine women came in who just happened
(25:14):
to have a breast slump and they wore the wave
Watch for.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Breast health.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Nine times, nine different women breast slumps went away in
about thirty minutes.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Now, I know that sounds over.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
The top, and it was over the top for me too.
I'm going, oh my goodness, the watch is working. This
was my prototype stage. So women, we need to be
very careful, but look around for some different things that
you can do for your breast health, and that would
be the easiest one. One of the ladies who was
(25:49):
one of the nine was a nurse and she basically
said that her lump had been there for six months.
It was almond sized and again within the thirty minutes
it went down to tapioca sized. And so changes can
be made with new tools that we might not even
think about. So and then I also have some different
(26:09):
tools called there's one called a biomat that women have
laid on and it's very important. It has infrared heat
and frequencies from amethyst crystals in it, and another idea
would be iodine. I suggest that women get luls iodine
and especially if they're having breast problems, rub it directly
(26:31):
onto their breasts. You know, if you know that you
are not sensitive to iodine, that is a big you know,
make sure that you know that, And that would be
just some easy ideas right there. Look at different tools
they are out there, and then iodine would be one
to add with the salt amazing well.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
I will make sure those things are all linked in
the show notes. In both of our episodes together, I've
learned so much from you. All linked to our first one. Also,
if you guys missed that one, highly recommend it as well.
And I'm so glad that our paths crossed and that
I now have a wave watch that I've been using
almost constantly since I met you. And I'm so grateful
for your time today and for all that you shared,
for your obvious passionate about this, and all the wisdom
(27:11):
that you have imparted. So thank you so much for
your time. Thank you, and thank you as always for
listening and for sharing your most valuable resources, your time,
your energy, and your attention with us today We're both
so grateful that you did, and I hope that you
will join me again on the next episode at the
Wellness MoMA podcast. If you're enjoying these interviews, would you
(27:33):
please take two minutes to leave a rating or review
on iTunes for me. Doing this helps more people to
find the podcast, which means even more moms and families
can benefit from the information. I really appreciate your time
and thanks as always for listening.
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