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September 3, 2025 33 mins
Episode Highlights With Katie
  • What the lymphatic system is and why it matters for immune health and detox
  • How the lymph system works (and why it needs your help to keep moving)
  • Surprising ways lymph stagnation can impact your health
  • How daily movement and walking support lymph flow
  • Why hydration and minerals are non-negotiable for detox
  • Simple self-lymphatic massage techniques you can do at home
  • The benefits of dry brushing and how to do it correctly
  • Pros and cons of vibration plates and how to use them wisely
  • How hot/cold therapy and breathwork can activate lymph movement
  • Natural herbs and supplements that support lymphatic drainage
  • Why consistent, gentle practices work better than aggressive detoxes
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welk on to My Body's podcast. This podcast is brought
to you by Element and this is a company you
might have heard me talk about before, and I really
love their products because proper hydration leads to better sleep,
it sharpens focus, it improves energy, and so much more.
But hydration is not about just drinking water, because being

(00:22):
optimally hydrated a state called U hydration, is about optimizing
your body's fluid ratios. And this fluid balance depends on
many factors, including the intake and excretion of electrolytes, which
many people don't get. The right amounts of electrolytes are
charged minerals that conduct electricity to power your nervous system.
I talk a lot about nervous system on this podcast.

(00:42):
They also regulate hydration status by balancing fluids inside and
outside of ourselves. Element was created with the science backed
electrolyte ratio of one hundred milligrams of sodium, two hundred
milligrams of potassium, and sixty milligrams of magnesium with no sugar.
Since electrolytes are a key component of hydration, here's what happens.
When we get our electrolytes dialed in, we have more

(01:02):
steady energy, improved cognitive function, suffer fewer headaches and muscle cramps.
We can perform better for longer and especially the support
fasting or low carb diet because when we stop eating carbs,
like during a fast, the absence of insulin allows the
kidneys to release sodium, So replacing that loss sodium with
electrolytes can help you feel good on the fast. Since
Element is zero sugar, it also doesn't break up fast.

(01:25):
Electrolytes are also important for maintaining blood pressure, regulating digestion,
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so much more. I feel like proper electrolytes is a
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Elements new canned drinks which are sparkling water with all
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(01:46):
they are delicious. You can check it out and learn
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at that link you will receive a free sample path
with any order. This podcast is brought to you by Optimizers,
and in particular their product that holds my heart, which

(02:07):
is their magnesium Breakthrough. My goal this year is to
continue to focus on my wellness and to create more
harmony and resonance. And we all know that the foundation
of health is a good night's sleep. I talk about
that so much on this podcast, and magnesium is the
one nutrient that helps my sleep so much, as well
as so many other aspects of my health, because magnesium
is vital for so many things within the body, and

(02:30):
it is nearly impossible to get enough from food anymore.
And magnesium breakthrough from Bioptimizers is in a category of
its own. They have seven different forms of magnesium in
one supplement, and since magnesium is involved in over six
hundred different biochemical reactions in the body, no other supplement
on the market offers all seven types of magnesium in

(02:50):
one bottle. Pretty Much every function of your body is
upgraded when you take magnesium regularly, from the quality of
your sleep to your brain function, from metabolism to stress
levels and so much more. This is one of the
few supplements that lives on my nightstand, and I'm a
little odd, but I take every morning because I actually
get energy from it, though most people notice that it's
better at night now. Studies point to a lot of

(03:13):
benefits of magnesium, including that it may help improve sleep quality,
especially by supporting healthy sleep onset and have more peaceful nights.
My Nuesium is also involved in stress management support, and
it may help maintain energy levels and positive mood while
also supporting mental clearness and relaxation. My museum is also
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(03:34):
building blocks to strong bones, and it promotes a balance
stress response, supports relaxation, and I feel much calmer when
I'm regularly taking magnesium, so Leo's basically, even if you're
twenty twenty five, resolution is not all about focusing on
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able to shave your goals in any area without enough
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(03:56):
make it part of your daily routine this year as
well for better sleep, better stress response, and much more.
They have a three hundred and sixty five day money
back guarantee and you can find it at to buy
optimizers dot com, Slash wellness Mama and use the code
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T I M I Z e r S dot com,

(04:17):
slash wellness Mama and the code wellness Mama for a discount.
Hello and welcome to the Wellness Mama podcast. I'm Katie
from Walnessmama dot com and this episode is all about
a topic I really love and it was the source
of a lot of questions from you guys, and I
love when I get to go deep on a topic
thanks to your request, and this one is all about

(04:38):
lymphatic support, lymphatic detox, what we've known about our lymphatic system,
and really simple, free things we can do to support
our lymphatic system in various ways. I think this is
such a fascinating topic personally. I love that you guys
asked about it. And before we jump into the how
to support the olymphatic system, feel like it's important to

(04:58):
define a little bit of one of the is and
how it works. So an oversimplified definition is that the
lymphatic system is the drainage system of the body, and
it is that, but it also is so much more
than that. I feel like it sort of gets overlooked
when it's just thought of as a drainage system. It's
also part of the immune system, and it transports limp fluid,

(05:21):
which is a fluid containing infection fighting white blood cells,
amongst other things. Interestingly, unlike the cardiovascular system, which a
lot of people are more familiar with, which of course
involves our heart, our blood, that all that, the lymphatic
system does not have a pump, so the heart pumps blood.
The lymphatic system doesn't have a corollary, so it relies

(05:43):
on movement breath and muscle contractions for movement of that
lymphatic fluid. And this will be important. We'll go into
that a little bit more later on. And the lymph
system also includes things like lymph nodes. You've probably heard
of those, or maybe you had them swollen in your
neck you sick, the spleen, tonsiles, and thymus. They're all

(06:04):
part of this system. And I unfortunately don't have my
tonsils since I was about five years old, and when
I learned about the lymphatic system and the tonsiles being
part of that, I realized that without tonsiles, this is
something I wanted to pay a little bit of extra
attention to and try to be as supportive as I
could as far as what the lymphatic system is important

(06:24):
for It is key for various detox mechanisms within the body,
as well as for our immune system, immune defense, and
for inflammation regulation. So this is why a lot of
people see positive changes in other areas when they start
supporting their lympatic system. I also think it's important to
touch on why understanding that the lympatic system does not

(06:47):
have a pump, it has to be pumped through movement,
why it tends to get stagnant, And when I go
through these you might notice that it seemingly our modern
lifestyle sets us up for a lot of limp stagnation
because things that tend to lead to stagnant lymph are
a sedentary lifestyle. Chronic dehydration, even very low level chronic dehydration,

(07:09):
can have a really dramatic impact on the lymbatic system.
Nutrient deficiencies, especially minerals, which you guys might be tired
of hearing we talk about by now, but they are
so important and we're so helpful to me that I
love anytime I get to explain yet another way that
minerals are supportive of the body. And then some that
are not maybe as intuitive, tight clothing, especially during working

(07:32):
out when many of us wear tight clothing, poor sleep,
high stress, and our environmental talks inload, which can include
anything from the products in our laundry detergent or laundry products,
air fresheners, cleaning products around the house, personal care products.
You've probably heard the many varying stats of the thousands

(07:52):
of chemicals that we encounter on a daily basis, and
how we encounter more than previous generations have by a lot.
So all of those factors combined, we have a lot
in our daily lives. It leads to our limph not
being as fluid and moving as it could be or
should be optimally. Now as far as what we can
do about it, this is something that I find extremely fascinating.

(08:14):
So I mentioned before, there's no pump for the lymphatic system,
so it's not circulating on its own unless we move.
So for it to move, we have to move, So,
as you would expect, one of the biggest factors here
is movement. And the good news here, like heavier, more
intense exercise is not necessarily better from a lymphatic perspective.

(08:35):
Of course, things like strength training excellent for building lean
muscle mass, and I've had many podcast guests explain how
that is beneficial for everything from metabolism to longevity and more.
But for strictly the lymphatic system. Perhaps the best exercise
we can do is walking. It's the easiest natural way
to move our limp, especially if we're walking naturally, shoulders

(08:58):
relaxed arms swing when we walk helps limp move throughout
the whole body. I've also talked before about simply walking
and how as humans we were meant to move a
lot more than we move in the modern in our
modern lifestyle, and this is not about just getting in
an exercise for an hour a day either. This is

(09:19):
why I love wearing my or ring because it shows
me my inactive time as well and gives me an
alert if I haven't moved an hour, which from a
lymphatic perspective, even small little bits of movement, whether it
be just going up and down some stairs, some squads,
a couple push ups, moving our arms, swinging our arms,
any kind of movement with every hour or half hour,

(09:41):
really beneficial from a lymphatic perspective. Another very gentle, easy
one that is very supportive of the lymphatic system is
rebounding or in other words, jumping on a little trampline.
If you don't have a little trampline, you can actually
even do this on soft ground to beyond grass or
assert something gentle, gently lifting the heels and then letting

(10:01):
the body fall, kind of creating that jump when we
go down. That helps lymphatic system move, as well as
does something else I've recommended before, which is at night,
for ten or fifteen minutes, laying with our feet straight
up against a wall. So back on the ground, laying
straight up against a wall, we make an L shape.

(10:22):
This also has the side effect of helping the body relax,
lowering cortisol, which is what we want at night. We
want high cortisol in the morning, low cortisol at night.
And this is beneficial for the lymbatic system, especially if
you combine it with something like dry brushing or lymbatic
massage while you are laying there. I'll talk more about
those in a little while. Not quite as effective, but

(10:43):
still of course beneficial, would be other movements like yoga,
stretching or mobility work as a side tangent. People who
do not just stretching but active mobility have some of
the best heart rate variability that i've ever seen, and
I feel like there's a nervous system connection here that's
also benefited from doing mobility work. Another one that is

(11:05):
not is commonly known but very helpful for the lymphatic
system is deep diaphematic breathing. The great thing about this
is we can pretty much all do this at any point,
even if we're at work where it's school or driving
kids around. We can take deep diafragmatic breaths with account
trying to extend them really fill the diaphragm. Limph is
moved by this breathing and by the pressure of our breath,

(11:29):
so a few minutes of this a few times a
day can be tremendously helpful. Another factor very very important
for the lymphatic system is hydration and especially minerals. And
I briefly touched on this already, but I feel like
this is worth a deep dive because even mild dehydration
causes lymphatic fluid too thicken and makes it more sticky.

(11:53):
But there's more to this than just water, and I
feel like this is very fascinating. Lymphatic fluid is think
of it almost like oh water. It's a mineral rich fluid.
It's very important part of the immune system and it
helps with inflammation and transport of many things throughout the body.
Limph is mostly water, as are we. We are mostly water.
Even my old dehydration thickens this limp fluid. It makes

(12:15):
it harder and slower when it does circulate. Structured water
or mineral rich water really helps limph flow. So I
have all put links in the show notes a structured
water device on my house on the main water line,
and then I have been doing a tremendous amount of
experimentation lately with different types of minerals and really dialing

(12:38):
my levels in now. One note here is there are not,
to my knowledge, very effective blood tests that give you
an accurate idea of what's going on with your mineral
status in your body. And this is partially because not
all of our minerals are stored in our blood and
the amounts that we need them in the rest of
our body. So there are things like hair mineral analysis,
which I have been researching and made do a podcast

(13:00):
on soon. However, what I have personally found is most
effective is simply experimentation a lot of minerals. For the
most part, check before you experiment, but a lot of them,
your body will simply flush any excess. So especially if
we start carefully and are very aware of our doses,
we can start and experiment with where we feel good.

(13:22):
And that's what's been most beneficial for me, especially focusing
on kind of the big minerals sodium, magnesium, and potassium,
as well as all of the others in smaller more
trace amounts now for me, both from alympbatic perspective and
a lot of other perspectives within my body and energy levels,
I have found really increasing my sodium really helpful. And

(13:46):
I will link to the episode I did all about
salt and how I feel salt was given very much
an unfair, bad rap, and our avoidance of salt, or
even our limiting of salt, has had, in my opinion,
some potentially harmful consequences across the board. So I sometimes
consume upwards of ten grams of salt, not zodium, but

(14:07):
salt per day. Not recommending that that's not medical advice.
I'm just saying anecdotally, I feel much better getting more salt,
plus taking enough magnesium and potassium, and I take that
in various forms. I take ionic minerals I take beam
bothahumic minerals. I take a lot of the Idon mineral
blends on a daily basis, add salt to my water,

(14:29):
antake magnesium and potassium. So I have really been experimenting
with the minerals. I find it adding even just a
little bit of different kinds of minerals to water also
seems to make it feel more satisfying for me. Now,
let me know if you want me to do a
video on this part, because it is hard to explain
via audio, but self lymphatic massage can be really effective.

(14:53):
I've gotten to learn some various lymbatic massage techniques from
different practitioners, and I've had guests like Kelly on this podcast.
I'll link to her episode, But you can work on
your own lymphatic system at home, and I find this
is very relaxing and a great part of my not
quite every day I wish it was, but my regular routine.

(15:14):
So again, let me know if you want me to
do a quick video on how I do this. But
it's the general idea is this is not deep tissue massage.
This is gentle movement massage, gentle touch. I was told
kind of the idea of the pressure you would use
to push honey out of a sponge, So not super hard,
gentle pressure that feels pleasant, but a little bit firm.

(15:37):
And starting with certain points, the one that's most often
recommended is the colorbones, which are considered kind of the
master point. I realize most of you are listening, not watching,
so I will try to explain this as I show
it on the video, but by using two fingers, one
on either side of the collarbone and pumping back and

(15:57):
forth about ten times on each and this is actually
something we can all do throughout the day to kind
of they say open the lymphatic system or prime lymphatic system,
and I've heard multiple practitioners say this is the point
to start with for any lymphatic work, and then there
are secondary points to those that we can then open.

(16:18):
Before then everything moves toward the heart. So this is
considered kind of those points on the collarbone of opening
the drain. Again, light pressure is the key here. This
is not deep tissue massage, and it can be done
daily or a few times a week. In line with
that is something else I've written about before, and I'll
link to that blog post in the show notes, where

(16:40):
you can google it. Then that is dry brushing, which
seemingly has beneficial effects potentially for circulation and also for
supporting lymph flow. This is something I often do before showering,
especially in the morning, because I tend to get a
rush of energy when I dry brush. Don't fully know

(17:00):
what the mechanism is there, other than perhaps that increase
in circulation and lymphatic flow, but I do get like
a really fun and pleasant burst of energy from dry brushing.
And notice my skin is softer, and this is said
to potentially support lymphatic flow as well, just like with
lymphatic self massage. The idea is you want to move

(17:22):
toward the heart always. Even when I dry brush, I
also open up those color going points with my fingers first,
and this is best before showering, not just in the
morning because it's energy giving, but also because it does
tend to remove dead skin cells. I've done this before
in front of a red light and you can actually
see the dead skin cells kind of coming off your body,

(17:42):
So it does help remove dead skin cells, which is
a great natural exfoliator for the skin as well, and
I'll link to what I use, but the key here
is to use a natural bristle brush and light pressure.
You're not trying to be abrasive. You're not trying to
deep exfoliate your skin. This should feel pleasant and invigorating,
not painful at all. Now, another kind of current hot

(18:04):
topic when it comes to supporting the lymphatic system are
these vibration plates. And you've probably seen these floating around
on social media perhaps, and I do think they have
their place. They can be beneficial. However, they also can
be pricey, and I will say walking is kind of
the gold standard. Hopefully we all have availability of walking
or at least gentle bouncing on the ground or bouncing

(18:27):
on a rebounder, which are both much more inexpensive options,
So I would say those are important first before we
are considering vibration plates, we want to make sure we
are getting normal basic movement like walking, and that we
are hydrated and have our minerals in a good point,
because if our limp is stagnant and sticky and thick,
getting on a vibration plate isn't necessarily going to be

(18:49):
that effective to begin with. And since lymphatic system is
involved in detox and immune system, if we aren't hydrated,
there is a potential this is not well study, but
there's a potential to things worse and that make us
feel less energetic, make us feel less lymphatic flow. So
I do think personally that vibration plates have their place,

(19:10):
I just don't consider them foundational. From the pros, they
do and can stimulate muscle contractions, especially some people use
them for working out or hold a squad or a
lunge on them. They do also seemingly stimulate passive limp movement,
which can be accentuated by our movement or spine movement,
or some kind of movement while on the vibration plate.

(19:31):
They're especially potentially beneficial for people who can't do a
lot of movement for whatever reason. However, they aren't suitable
for anyone for everyone. Anyone who is has a medical condition.
From my understanding, anyone who has joint replacements and or
is pregnant would definitely want to check with their healthcare
team before attempting vibration plate. There's also kind of two

(19:54):
separate categories of vibration plate. The ones that are kind
of circulating on social media and are less expensive are
going to be a bigger, stronger vibration. You're going to
feel them a lot more. There's also ones like juven
which I will link to in the show notes as well.
This one is more of a micro vibration, which makes
it especially beneficial for like bones, joints and ligaments and microcirculation.

(20:18):
So because this one is gentler, it seemingly is more
suitable for more use cases, and it's specifically studied for
use post injury for joint and bone recovery as well
as it seemingly has some beneficial hormone effects. And there's
a really fascinating interview Kelly Robin did with them about
how this mimics some of these same things we get

(20:40):
from walking, not that they're replacement for walking, but a
great supplement as well, So i'll link to that. That's
a much pricier option. But they're kind of are different
categories and they seemingly have different mechanisms. All that said,
if you're going to do that, start with short sessions
and work up. Make sure you are hydrated first, police,
please please, and start with walking. It's completely free. You

(21:02):
don't have to buy any fancy gadgets for it. Another
thing that is seemingly helpful for the lymphatic system in
a way we can support lymphatic flow is contrast therapy
or hot and cold therapy. And here's why that works.
Things like sauna and hot bath or hot tub increase circulation,
They vasodilate you. They are exercise in memetics, so other

(21:25):
than the strength aspects, you're getting a lot of the
same benefits of exercise, with your heart rate increasing, sweating,
detox pathways opening, kind of all those mechanisms. Cold exposure
is the other end of the spectrum. It's a vasoconstrictor,
so it causes constriction of the muscles and blood muscles,
and it creates seemingly as you might imagine a little

(21:45):
bit of a pump situation with the vasodilation, vasoconstriction, the
relaxation and the constriction of the muscles, and so contrast
therapy can be especially effective for people who can't do
a lot of movement but can handle being in a
sauna in a cold plunge, for instance. This is why
I personally enjoy it. Also tends to release a lot
of endorphins. I don't think again this is a foundational

(22:05):
part of lymphatic health. I think it's a very fun
one if you're able to add it on. But I
don't consider it foundational to supporting lambatic health. And again
go back to those simple things. Make sure we're walking
at a weight a best if we want to get
more bet of it from walking, And make sure we're hydrated,
getting enough minerals, getting enough sunshine, which also supports, as

(22:25):
it does with seemingly everything in the body seemingly supports
the immune system and the lymphatic system. And then do
free things like self lymphatic massage at home, opening up
those points, and get little mini movement snacks every hour
or so to keep our lymphatic system flowing. This podcast
is brought to you by Element and this is a

(22:47):
company you might have heard me talk about before, and
I really love their products because proper hydration leads to
better sleep, it sharpens focus, it improves energy, and so
much more. But hydration is not about just drinking water,
because being optimally hydrated, a state called U hydration, is
about optimizing your body's fluid ratios. And this fluid balance

(23:08):
depends on many factors, including the intake and excretion of electrolytes,
which many people don't get the right amounts of electrolytes
are charged minerals that conduct electricity to power your nervous system.
I talk a lot about nervous system on this podcast.
They also regulate hydration status by balancing fluids inside and
outside of ourselves. Element was created with the science backed

(23:28):
electrolyte ratio of one hundred milligrams of sodium, two hundred
milligrams of potassium, and sixty milligrams of magnesium with no sugar.
Since electrolytes are a key component of hydration, here's what happens.
When we get our electrolytes dialed in. We have more
steady energy, improved cognitive function, suffer fewer headaches and muscle cramps.
We can perform better for longer and especially the support

(23:49):
fasting or a low carb diet because when we stop
eating carbs, like during a fast, the absence of insulin
allows the kidneys to release sodium to Replacing that loss
sodium with electrolytes can help you feel good on the fast.
Since Element is zero sugar, it also doesn't break up fast.
Electrolytes are also important for maintaining blood pressure, regulating digestion,
and proper fluid balance, keeping skin hydrated, which is a

(24:11):
big one that I feel like often gets missed. And
so much more. I feel like Properer Electrolytes is a
missing piece for a lot of people. And I love
Elements new canned drinks which are sparkling water with all
the same ratios of minerals I just talked about, and
they are delicious. You can check it out and learn
more at drink Element dot com slash Wellness Mama. That's

(24:32):
dri nk l mnt dot com slash Wellness Mama, and
at that link you will receive a free sample pack
with any order. This podcast is brought to you by
Optimizers and in particular their product that holds my heart,
which is their magnesium Breakthrough. My goal this year is
to continue to focus on my wellness and to create

(24:52):
more harmony and resonance. And we all know that the
foundation of health is a good night's sleep. I talk
about that so much on this podcast, and magnesium is
the one nutrient that helps my sleep so much, as
well as so many other aspects of my health, because
magnesium is vital for so many things within the body,
and it is nearly impossible to get enough from food anymore,

(25:13):
and magnesium breakthrough from Bioptimizers is in a category of
its own. They have seven different forms of magnesium in
one supplement, and since magnesium is involved in over six
hundred different biochemical reactions in the body, no other supplement
on the market offers all seven types of magnesium in
one bottle. Pretty Much every function of your body is
upgraded when you take magnesium regularly, from the quality of

(25:36):
your sleep to your brain function, from metabolism to stress levels,
and so much more. This is one of the few
supplements that lives on my nightstand, and I'm a little odd,
but I take every morning because I actually get energy
from it, though most people notice that it's better at
night now. Studies point to a lot of benefits of magnesium,
including that it may help improve sleep quality, especially by

(25:56):
supporting healthy sleep onset and have more peaceful night my
Niesium is also involved in stress management support and it
may help maintain energy levels and positive mood while also
supporting mental clearness and relaxation. Museum is also important for healthy,
imbalanced muscle tone and providing the building blocks to strong bones,
and it promotes a balance stress response, supports relaxation, and

(26:19):
I feel much calmer when I'm regularly taking magnesium, So
let's face it, even if you're twenty twenty five. Resolution
is not all about focusing on your health like minus,
how are you going to be able to shave your
goals in any area without enough quality sleep and stress management.
Check out Magnesium Breakthrough and make it part of your
daily routine this year as well for better sleep, better
stress response, and much more. They have a three hundred

(26:42):
and sixty five day money back guarantee and you can
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use the code Wellness Mama for a discount. So that's
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discount if we want to get a little fancy beyond that,

(27:04):
if we're doing the foundational things, I have personally also
experimented with different herbs and supplements that seemingly are helpful. Again,
nothing I ever say on this podcast is medical advice.
This is only a starting place for your own research.
All of this has been self experimentation and research for me.
Always check with your doctor, especially if you have any

(27:25):
specific concerns or health challenges that you're working through. This
is what I have personally tried I have experimented with cleavers,
burdock root, and echanasia as traditional limp supporting herbs, as
well as various essential oils on the dry brush topically,
and some that I have loved there are rose and
lavender and occasionally peppermint. Another big one. Perhaps you've heard

(27:49):
me mentioned this in the Realm of getting rid of
my autoimmune disease. It is the very specific and targeted
use of enzymes. I did get a lot of questions
about this when I included it in a recent video
on Instagram, So I'm planning to do at least an episode,
if not a whole series on enzymes and how to
time them and use them for different effects. What I

(28:10):
have found is that when enzymes are taken on a
on an empty stomach, so like first thing in the
morning or before bed for me, that's more they work
more as a pertiolytic enzyme, which is helps with clearing
proteins and inflammation in the body, including in the limp.
And when they're taken with food they serve a more
digestive enzyme type purpose cattle Kainse and sarah pep today's

(28:32):
seemingly are very effective, at least for me. They were
with clearing the inflammation from autoimmunity, and I consider that's
a big part of the complete reversal of my hashimotos
and do find them lymphatically supportive as well. And on
that same note, pectisol and then other binders. You do
want to be careful with these because they can be
very powerful. But I feel like pectasol was also a

(28:54):
big part in my autoimmune reversal and also lymphatically supportive
if you're not familiar with that supplement. I did that
whole episode with doctor Isaac Elias, who wrote The Survival Paradox,
all about understanding pectusol and how it specifically targets and
binds to and removes and inflammatory approaching in the body
called collectin three, which is potentially implicated in a lot

(29:15):
of cancers. However, it's also implicated in a lot of
inflammation throughout the body, including potentially with things like autoimmunity
or LIMP stagnation. So I don't have any data from
lab testing to support this, but my anecdotal data, I
believe that enzymes and pecticol were really helpful in the
automuniversal for me, and I now still take them to

(29:35):
support healthy levels of inflammation, and there's low levels of
inflammation and supporting my lympatic system. So I wanted to
try to keep these solo episodes a little shorter, and
so before I get too long winded, I wanted to
wrap up by just kind of summarizing some of the
key points and key takeaways into easy implementable action steps

(29:58):
in case this is a topic you are interested in
and you want to do your own end of one
experiment and see what works for you. At a high level,
your lymphatic system needs movement, hydration, and basic care. It's
not super complicated. It responds very quickly, and if you
take care of it even a little, it will take
care of you a lot. Gentle, small daily habits go

(30:20):
a tremendously long way in lympbatic support. No extreme detoxes needed.
In fact, I would say in most cases seemingly like
extreme detoxes can be uncomfortable and might potentially do more
harm than good. Lymbatic system responds really well to the
basic human things that we're just simply not doing in
our As I've talked about, nature deficit and movement deficit disorders,

(30:42):
start with the symbol either free or almost free things, sunlight, walking,
hydrating with minerals, and then dry brushing our self massage
if you went to at home. I've used castor oil
at times with central oils for the self massage part
is there also seemingly benefit effects of castor oil outside
of the lymphatic system. But these little, simple daily practices

(31:04):
make a big difference. This will be a topic of
another podcast. But seemingly supporting a secondary or our other
primary detox organs like the liver and the kidneys and
the skin can also help when doing lymphatic support because
as things move around the body might be eliminating quite
a lot. Also, the same things that are helpful for

(31:25):
the lymphatic system are helpful here, including hydration. I've also
done things like liver flushes personally, I've done herbs and
supplements to support my liver and kidneys. I've done detox baths.
I can talk about all of those in other episodes
if you guys are interested when it comes to lymphatic system.
When in doubt, keep it simple and consistent. Consistent, tiny

(31:47):
baby steps will have a bigger payoff than one time
massive actions when it comes to the lymphatic system. So
if I simplify it, and distilled this down to some
simple action steps. It would be dese start walking every day,
even for just fifteen to twenty minutes. Bonus points if
it's at sunrise or sunset, or you're outside at all
getting natural light during that time. Drink enough water and

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add minerals to your water, a pinch of salt, fullvic minerals,
ionic minerals, whatever kind of minerals your body loves best,
add those and hydrate. Be intentional about it from there.
Once the foundational things are done, we can add in
if we want to, things like dry brushing or self
massage a few times a week, or learn a basic
limp routine and prioritize daily movement over fancy supplemans or

(32:35):
intense detoxes. If you have any follow up questions, I
would love to hear them. I read every comment and
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me directly on Instagram. I always love to hear from
you about future topics. You would love for me to
talk about future guests, You would love for me to
talk to you, or any other feedback that you have.

(32:57):
If you have thirty seconds, I would also be tremendously
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much for sharing your time, your energy, and your attention

(33:19):
with me today. I know those are your most valuable resources,
and I don't take it lightly that you chose to
be here. I'm very grateful that you did, and I
hope that you will join me again on the next
episode of the Wellness Mama podcast. If you're enjoying these interviews,
would you please take two minutes to leave a rating
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people to find the podcast, which means even more moms
and families can benefit from the information. I really appreciate
your time and thanks as always for listening.
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