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code Wellness Mama for a discount. Hello and welcome to
the Wellness Mama podcast. I'm Katie from Wellnessmama dot com
and this episode will be a short solo episode that
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goes deep on a couple of things that I find
really helpful really all year, but especially this time of year.
And you might have heard me talk before about how
I don't do anything every single day and I often
cycle and rotate things that I take many fewer supplements
than I used to. But I'm going to talk today
about a couple compounds in particular that I take very
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regularly that I find very helpful for a lot of
different reasons and kind of delve into some of the
reasons why. So this is going to kind of I'm
calling this one my survival duo. The two things that
help a lot, especially this time of year, and I
find really help just keep me driving, an immune system bolstered,
and have energy in the busyness and craziness of this
time of year. Before we jump in. I just want
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to make sure that I say that nothing I ever
say on this podcast or anywhere is ever medical advice
or any kind of advice. You are your own primary
healthcare provider. Always do your own research, ask questions, question everything,
including and especially me. In this podcast and online, I
only share my personal experience, my personal research, and what
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I've learned along the way as a starting point and
for inspiration, never for comparison, and never ask prescription. It's
like I said, question everything, even and especially me. Perhaps
you have heard the phrase flu season or cold and
flu season, and I've still something recently online that I
loved to said, we don't have cold and blue season.
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We have a candy holiday, followed by a pie holiday,
followed by a cookies and candy holiday, followed by a
booze holiday. And there is some relevance to this because
we're moving into a time of year where it is darker.
We get less natural light, which I've talked so much
about the many benefits of and how it supports the
body in so many ways. We typically so we're spending
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less time outside, getting less sunlight. Sleep patterns could be disrupted.
We actually need more sleep in the winter, and we're
typically as population, on average, eating more processed food, more sugar,
a lot of things that can have an immune impact.
So the holidays are supposed to, of course be joyful
cause for celebration, but for moms especially, I feel like
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they can be a marathon of stress and sugar consumption
and sleep deprivation and all that going on between travel, family,
extra desserts. And it's no wonder our bodies sometimes need
a little bit of extra support this time of year.
And the good news is, I think there are some
small levers we can pull that make a big difference.
And I will link to some other podcasts because some
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of these I've talked a lot about really trying to
keep it consistent sleep schedule, trying to get enough natural
light exposure is huge, and all the things I would
normally talk about, But I want to talk about a
couple in particular today that I think are especially helpful
this time of year, and some things I've learned through
experimentation seem to actually make a noticeable difference. So the
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two overlooked keys that I'm going to talk about in
depth today are magnesium and enzymes, and specifically why they're
extra helpful this time of year, and all LinkedIn in
the show notes. There's a particular one that I use
for both of these actually, which is magnesium breakthrough, which
is a broad spectrum magnesium, as well as mass szymes,
which are the best enzymes I've found, and I use
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these in various ways all year. I'll explain what they do.
I'm actually going to do a whole separate episode that
goes really deep on the science of enzymes because I
find it so fascinating. But today I'm going to share
kind of what these both do, how they can work together,
and why I find them especially supportive. Before I jump
into that, just a little bit of an overview of
why this time of year can create so much havoc
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when our bodies, like I said, we're often eating more
calories than we need, often consuming fewer actual nutrients than
we need, even if we're getting a lot of calories,
reading rich foods on average, statistically more sugar and more alcohol,
and disrupted sleep. And the commonality is these things all
can't spike our stress hormones, especially cortisol, which you've probably
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heard a lot about. It's trending on the internet right now,
but this affects so many things in our body and
in our health. When our cortisol rises and stays elevated,
thought that cortisol in and of itself is the problem.
We actually want to see a cortisol spike in the morning,
We want to see a cortisol spike during times legitimate stress,
and we want it to be able to go back
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to baseline easily after. In the modern world, often it
stays elevated. So when cortisol rises and stays elevated, that's
when we see things like physiological changes involving less stomach acid,
which is important for digestion and absorption of food. Slower digestion,
we might see more cravings because the body sees this
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as a state of stress and not a state of safety,
and cortisol competes and disrupts melatonin patterns and sleep quality,
which if you've listened for a while, you've heard me
talk about a lot. So chronic stress plus poor digestion
this time of year especially, can lead to fatigue, bloating,
brain fog, and a lot more. It's an interesting data point.
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Up to seventy percent of Americans report digestive discomfort during
the holidays and over half of us say that we
sleep worse during this time of year. So for any
of us who have ever felt wired and tired, or
bloated or sluggish after a big meal, we've seen this
connection firsthand. The good news is we're not at the
mercy of it. There are things we can do. I
also think it's important to delve into the sleep and
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stress link. Like I've said over and over on here,
I've never had one single expert in the over thousand
episodes of this podcast claim that sleep is not vitally
important for human health. We know it's important, yet many
of us are still really not dialing this in. But
this in light of the winter and in the holiday
season is especially relevant. So you've heard me talk a
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lot about the benefits of natural light exposure, spending time
in the sun, especially in the summer and the warm months.
I talk about this a lot. What I haven't talked
about as much yet is there are also tremendous benefits
to less light in the winter, to darkness. If we
understand how the human body was meant to be in
that time, more darkness means if we're living in in
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natural harmony with light cues, we are making more melotonin,
we will naturally sleep more, and traditionally we would eat
different kinds of foods. There will be more autophagy that
happens in the winter with potentially less access to food,
less access to carbohydrates, especially historically, and so like longer
sleep less food consumption. That's the opposite of what's happening
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in the modern world. But cortisol and melatonin in a
sense are kind of opposites. When one is high, the
other is low, and vice versa. So if cortisol's high
and melatonin can't do its job, and of course all
shoots big in the morning, we actually don't want melatonin
to be high. But for many of us this pattern.
For me, it was for years reverse where my cortisol
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wolds bike at night, I would have trouble falling asleep,
and I was having trouble making melatonin. So I'll get
back to those later. But chronic stress, even physiologic stress
from things like art, visual light, nextcess sugar consumption, things
we're interacting within our environment that aren't natural. Those things
can all keep cortisol elevated, so the body can't fully
relax at night, so we're not sleeping as deep so
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we're not making as much melotonin, and the cycle perpetuates.
And this is important because sleep is when our body repairs,
rebalances our hormones, and builds neurotransmitters like serotonin and dopamine,
which if you research those, you know how important those are.
And this is where magnesium comes into play. I have
been reading about and writing about the importance of magnesium
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now for almost twenty years, which is mind boggling, and
I love that this is now so much more mainstream
knowledge than it used to be. I feel like this
was much less talked about twenty years ago, but we
now are understanding more I don't think completely, but more
of how vital magnesium is and how many of us
are deficient some of the things that magnesium does in
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the body. It is a cofacture in literally hundreds of
ensomatic reactions. I used to hear three hundred insomatic reactions.
Now I've heard estimates upwards of six hundred. It's really
helpful for regulating our circadian rhythm and our stress hormones.
It supports gabba and latonin for deeper sleep, and low
magnesium is often correlated with anxiety, restless sleep, and muscle tension,
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and I'll go into more specifics later, but for this reason,
many people find that taking magnesium in the evening can
be really helpful. I learned through trial and error that
I inverse modulate certain things involving the GABA pathway, so
I actually take it in the morning, which makes unusual
and I'm in a very small percentage of people that
that's true for. However, I mentioned that just to say,
if you've ever taken magnesium at night I felt wired,
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you might also be in that small percentage and one
to experiment with taking it at lunchtime, for instance. So
for me, it took years literally to really dial in
through experimentation getting my magnesium levels optimal. And when I
was in the experience of having hushimotives and I had
a lot of inflammation going on in my body, actually
had some side effects from magnesium, especially certain forms back then,
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and I realized in hindsight that was my body actually
trying to heal into detox and to bring some of
these in somatic reactions back online. Because I was so deficient,
I needed to do that slowly and gradually to give
my body time to adjust. I used to even get
itchy from magnesium, even if I took it orally, not
even topical. And over time all of that thankfully has resolved,
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and now magnesium is very much a part of my routine.
But it has made a drastic difference in my sleep,
my recovery, my mood. Now I make an effort you've
heard me talk about before, to get a broad spectrum
of minerals, especially magnesium. I also make sure to get
enough salt in my food and sometimes in water and
other minor minerals as well. But I feel like magnesium
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is absolutely the juggernaut when it comes to minerals, and
that the high likelihood is many of us are not
getting enough. There's a lot of forms of magnesium. I
won't go into all of them what they do. I
can put a chart in the show notes. However, I
finally found one that has all seven main forms, and
each is absorbed differently by the body and does something
different within the body. So I find this broad spectrum
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one doesn't just help with relaxation, but it helps me
kind of across the board. I feel a difference in
digestion and stress, energy, kind of all of it. And
I'll link to that one of the show notes as well.
It's called magnesium breakthrough and it has seven forms. Okay,
I also want to talk about the digestion and energy
link specific to this. So digestion is an energy heavy,
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energy intensive process. It can take up to ten percent
of our total daily energy just to digest our food.
And this is where the other aspect of what I
take during some of year comes into play, which is enzymes,
Because this is fascinating. When enzyme levels are low, especially
from factors like stress or age, which both affect our
natural enzymes, food takes longer breakdown, which can lead to bloating, discomforts, sluggishness,
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tired andess after meals. Also, things aren't digested properly in
the right timeframe. Undigested proteins can ferment, which leads to gas, inflammation,
often even skin issues or fatigue. And if we don't
have correct enzymes and stomach as, we often aren't absorbing
the nutrients from our food that we could be. So
enzymes are to me kind of the tools the keys
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our body needs to unlock nutrients, and they fit into
several categories. This is, like I said, a big topic
and I'm going to do a separate episode just on this.
So there are several different categories of enzymes. There's proteases
which help break down proteins. There's life phases, which, as
the name suggests you might guess, help break down fats,
and there's amalases that help break down carbohydrates sys. So
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they all serve different functions. And I'll come back to this,
but there's a timing component as well. So when we
take enzymes with food, they help break down those various
components of food. When we take enzymes on an empty stomach,
they serve a different purpose, so they work in a
more protalytic role and help with things like cellular cleanup.
And I won't go deep on this in this episode.
I will in the enzyme as a episode, but I
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feel like this was a very helpful piece for me
when I was in recovery from autoimmunity and had a
lot of inflammation and cellular cleanup to do. So a
helpful analogy here is to think of enzymes like scissors.
They sort of snip your food into little absorbable pieces
so that our body can use them for energy for
muscles repair and brain function. I'll link to this in
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the show notes as well, and the enzymes I use
all the time are called mass symes, and this one
actually contains enough proteins to make a noticeable difference. This
is something I have found experimenting with other enzymes, is
that many of them don't have enough proteins to make
a difference, especially if you're eating enough protein, which I've
also talked about and can link to blog posts and
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podcasts about as well. But I find these enzymes especially
helpful when I'm hitting my protein goals, and it's like
giving your digestive system a little extra help. I also
notice when I'm consistent with this, I have more energy
after meals, and even after big meals, I don't get
that kind of energy dip while I'm digesting. I take them,
like I said, on an empty stomach and with meals.
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Stay tuned for a whole episode about enzymes and how
they work differently in those different situations. But I love
these two in particular. If I had to only pick
two things to take me with me when I travel
on holidays, these would be the ones that make the cut,
along with some high quality salt, because I'm a huge
fan of salt and occasionally also baking soda and water
in the morning, but those are very easy to find,
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even at grocery stores, so I always pre order and
make sure I have these particular supplements on hand. Totally anecdotally.
I don't know if there's any research on this, but
it is standard protocol in my house. If anybody feels
like they're starting to get sick, they will take enzymes
every few hours. And I don't understand the mechanism here,
but it does seem to really kind of ward off
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most illnesses when done early. And I wonder if it
has something to do with helping the like celllual cleanup
aspect of the body or digestion so things are more
easily usable by the body. But I've found that very
helpful as well. So back to my holiday survival duo,
kind of want to like connect all these pieces I've
been talking about for a sort of full body picture.
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What we often see in the holidays, I would guess
many of us listening have had this experience is more stress.
There's a lot going on. There's all the kids, school
activities and parties and just obligations this time of year,
plus sleep can take a hit even though it is darker.
So if we were living in harmony with nature. If
we weren't having nature deficit disorder, we would likely be
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sleeping more, sleeping earlier, getting the benefit of extra melotonin
for body healing and antophagy. But in the modern world
we're often not doing this reckon staying up late, going
to holiday parties or functions, or watching movies. Not that
any of those things are bad, they're just variables to
understand when navigating the modern world and trying to understand
doing that in a way that's in harmony with nature.
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These factors can mean digestion slows, sleep suffers, energy crashes,
and we know statistically people get sick more often. I
find that magnesium and enzymes are my two big levers
to pull for kind of disrupting this cycle. So magnesium, personally,
I find I am much more relaxed, calm and ironically
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energetic during the day and have better sleep when I
am consistent about this. For most people, that means taking
it at night. For me this being an outlier, I
take it in the morning. But these are two supplements
I keep on my nightstand or in my bathroom, so
I actually see them as part of my routine. Because
that was for a lot of years. I also forgot
to take the supplements that we're both helpful for me,
and now I've made those a routine, the enzymes come
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into play. They actually help us absorb supplements better as well,
but they help with nutrient absorption and efficient digestion, and
if those things aren't compromised, it also makes us potentially
more likely to get sick because the body isn't running
at optimal capacity. So together, I feel like this is
a resilience combo for this time of year, especially if
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you are doing the other foundational things that make a
big difference, like trying to as much as possible while
still having a normal life, keep your sleep schedule consistent,
support your stress level, still getting morning sunlight. It's even
easier in the winter because the sun rises later, so
we get to sleep more and still get the benefit
of sunrise. I've said it before, it will say it
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any chance I get. I think watching the sunrise is
the perhaps most underrated free health tool that we have.
And I've met so many people We're doing these elaborate protocols,
doing all these things to support their health, and who
aren't watching the sun rise in the sunset. And I
would encourage you if you haven't at least experiment with that.
It has been absolutely transformative for me. I think it
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makes all these things we're talking about work so much
better when we get the correct natural light cues, and
I think we add from that will be more effective
when we are in harmony with natural light patterns together.
I find that magnesium and enzymes this time of year
helped me to have a lot more resilience. So, like
I said practical tips, I tend to take magnesium in
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the morning. However, most people benefit from taking it at
night before bed. For people who are deficient, it seems
like starting slow and working up is the way to go.
I have found that I do better kind of with
multiforms of all these things, and I ty traded up
my dose slowly after learning that the hard way, and
now take more than the recommended dose because I think
this is a very individualized thing and we all get
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to dial in what specifically works for us. But I'm
glad I did not just kind of give up on
magnesium years ago when I felt like I was reacting
to it, because it turns out I wasn't actually, of course,
allergic to magnesium. I wasn't even having a negative reaction
to the magnesium. The magnesium was actually helping things that
needed to happen in my body. It's just they were
happening quickly and it was overloading my body's natural detoks pathway.
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So in case that applies to you as well, I
also take the mass simes enzymes, which I will link
to in the show notes. I take them pretty often, actually,
and they have great protocols for this on their website
that I can link to as well. But they do
different things depending on when you take them, so I
take them with meals for better nutrient and absorption. I
also take them on an empty stomach in the morning
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and at night. And this is purely anecdotal, but I
really do think this helps with resilience. And I notice
I pretty much never get sick anymore, and I think
this plus a few other factors are probably the reason why.
But when taken on an empty stomach, they serve that
more protalytic role, which means that they're helping kind of
the body do it a natural job of cleaning itself.
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So my personal hack for this is I keep these
actually in my go bag that's always with me. It's
instead of a purse. It's like my work stuff, basic
supplement's hydration and throteenth snacks. I take magnesium in the
morning most people get't take it at night, and then
mass simes before with meals and in the morning of
the evening. This podcast is brought to you by Optimizers
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better at night now. Studies point to a lot of
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important for healthy imbalanced muscle tone and providing the building
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supports relaxation, and I feel much calmer when I'm regularly
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r s dot com, Slash Wellness Mama and the code
Wellness Mama for a discount. I want to also briefly
touch on some other holiday survival habits that I think
are really important, and I've briefly touched on them, but
I'm going to summarize them here. The first one being
even if you're traveling, even if it gets light later
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in the morning, try to get morning sunlight. For cir
Katie and Reseid, even five minutes makes a difference and
hours phenomenal if you can plu off. I try to
get fifteen to twenty minutes every single day. Try to
keep a regular sleep and wake cycle, and get natural
light throughout the day. I know this is hard on
the holidays, especially if we want to sleep in or
stay up late, but keeping a consistent sleep schedule is
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really helpful. I've had many sleep experts talk about this,
and I get that it's hard to do during the holidays.
Another easy hack is to prioritize a protein rich breakfast
for blood sugar stability. So even if we are attending
more holiday parties eating things we might not normally eat,
we can try to keep breakfast very nutrient dents and
high am protein I aim for personally, I aim for
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forty grams of protein with breakfast whenever possible. That seems
to be a safety signal for the body and kind
of give the body energy and blood sugar stability throughout
the day. Another easy one, especially if we are just
going to eat more treats and indulge this time a year,
which again no judgment, I do also, but go for
a walk after meals, which I've also done a podcast about.
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I can link to that as well. This has so
many benefits. Humans were designed to walk, and this aid's
limp flow and digestion. The movement, if I guess a
motion is lotion. That movement helps with so many things
in the body, and it makes a noticeable blood sugar
difference as well. Stay hydrated and mineralized, especially with travel.
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Even minor dehydration could have a big impact on the body,
and this is an easy and overlooked one to make
sure we really get dialed in. So I now travel
with a gallon water bottle that I add various minerals
to and that I make sure to take minerals like
magnesium and salt to keep hydrated and cellularly hydrated, not
just with water but with minerals as well. And then
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simple breath work or even cold exposure could calm the
nervous system when they are circadian appropriate and seasonally aligned.
So just like the summer and the heat and the
light have benefits, so do the winter and the darkness
and the cold. I know that cold plunging, especially for women,
as a controversial topic. I'm not advocating necessarily for that.
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I'm saying when it's cold outside, our body is meant
to interact with that as well. So I try to
still go for walks in the winter outside, not to
let myself get super cold, but just to get exposure
to different temperatures than are perfectly controlled sixty to seventy
two degree indoor temperatures that we often interact with, and
that little bit of cold can be hormonic and actually
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really good for the body, so we can lean into
the natural benefits of fall and winter by leaning into
more darkness, trying to avoid artificial light at night, getting
exposure to the natural temperature and natural light outside, still
watching the sunrise and the sunset, and sleeping more in
the time of year when we can make more melatonin
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and when the body tends to be primed for deep
heeling cycles and autophagy. These things are all benefits of winter,
which I also don't think get talked about enough. Also
very individualized and personalized, and do your own research and
work with your our own practitioners. But I have found
when I was healing, especially for me and only me
personal opinion, but fasting in the winter was easier and
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more effective I think because of some of these things,
sort of priming us for that deep healing and autoplogy
that can happen in the winter. So in closing, so
quick heat takeaways as we head into the holidays, remember
our bodies are always on our side. They're incredibly intelligent.
They just need the right tools to do their jobs.
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Anytimes something is off, it's a perfect invitation and opportunity
to ask what the body needs that it's not getting
or what it's getting too much of that it doesn't need,
and to use that data to develop a better relationship
with our body and support it better things that I
find helpful, especially by nesium and enzymes this time a
year for supporting our digestion, our sleep, and stress. And
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I find that this gives me more resilience than I
can actually enjoy the season, and we tend to not
have as much holiday illness going around with this as
well at the endother component to this that might be
its own episode is the simplification of life and saying
no to more things this time of year, simplifying the
kind of consumption aspects of the holidays. So that's its
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own topic from a physiological perspective, supporting the body in
some of these areas I'm talking about today to me
or like I said, some very powerful levers that it
made a big difference for me personally. And I also
wanted to not talk about products without making them even
more accessible to you guys, because I know it's in
budgeting there's always you have to prioritize, and I wanted
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to make these as easy as possible. So if you
want to try the combination I use, which is Maneasy
and Breakthrough and Mass Signs, which are both from by Optimizers.
I have gotten a twenty five percent off site wide
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third to December third, So depending on when you're listening
to this, you can find that at bioptimizers dot com
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slash Wellness Mama and use the code Wellness Mama to
say if I want. Also, of course link to that in
the show notes. But again that's b IO P T
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Walllness Bama, by optimizers dot com, slash Wellness BAM and
the code Wellness Bama. And as always, it is an
absolute pleasure to share time with you in the form
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of a podcast. I'm so grateful and honored that you
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