October 8, 2025 • 47 mins
Episode Highlights With Nathalie
- What the latest research is saying about peptides and what she’s studying and trying
- Bioregulators and how they work so uniquely
- Peptides by definition are small proteins and often fragments of naturally occurring peptides in the body
- About 7,000 peptides have been identified
- Bioregulators are only 2-5 amino acids in length
- Her take on GLP-1s and important things to know if you try them
- What testing and data she looks at and considers most important
- Iron overload and why it isn’t talked about much
- Blood and microbiome testing and which ones are worth doing
- Her take on regenerative medicine and longevity
- Ovarian aging and how this ties to body aging
- Follow Nathalie on her website and on Instagram
- Her podcast Longevity with Nathalie Niddam
- Function Health
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my creatrians, and longevity and I'm here with my friend
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Nat Needham, who is such a wealth of knowledge. I
love following her on social media because she's always posting
like really deep dive practical tips with really actionable steps,
and I feel like she's so knowledgeable and a great
voice when it comes to all things peptides, longevity, supplements,
and so much more. She is a holistic nutritionist and
a longevity educator dedicated to helping us all live joyful
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and shell like I said, shares all kinds of strategies
from health tech to ancestral health, to peptides, to supplements
and more. And she also has a podcast called Longevity
Podcast with Nadaline Andem and she also speaks internationally especially
on topics like bioregulators, which don't get talked about that much,
and much more. You will, I know, learn a lot
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from this episode, So let's jump in. Nat.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Welcome.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I'm so excited to have you here. Thank you for
being here today, Katie.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
It is an absolute pleasure. Thank you so much for
having me. I think I'm here partly because Todd Shipman
reconnected us after I had him on the podcast and
he said, oh my god, do you know my friend Katie,
And I'm like, yeah, so here we are. Oh.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I love it. I love Todd, and I feel like
I've known you for a long time at least we've
We've seen each other at events quite a bit, and
I followed your work online for a long time. I've
always learning tips from you, even from just Instagram posts,
because you're so good at going deep and taking complex
topics and making them both simple and applicable, which I love.
I think that's a superpower. And I know that you
are knowledgeable on so so many topics that we can
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never cover all of them in one podcast episode. But
I definitely would love to hear from you kind of
state of the Union, updates of what you're finding most
interesting right now, and especially maybe in the peptide world,
because I feel like you're one of the leading voices
when it comes to peptides.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Thank you, Katie. And by the way, I feel the
exact same about you.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
You know, I think that, I mean, look, peptides are
definitely you know, over the last I guess I've been
really leaning into the peptide space for the last five
to six years, and there are people who've been in
it for a lot longer. But what we're seeing now
is it's starting to bubble up into I wouldn't call
it exactly the main mainstream, but the at least the
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early adopter mainstream where people are becoming aware of peptides.
They remain quite controversial because, of course, many of them
are not approved for human use. They're still categorized as
research chemicals. But you know, what's also happening is that
there's this race to make them bioavailable in ways other
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than sepcutaneous injections, which typically are classically is the way
that they're used most often. And then, of course, as
you probably know, I'm also extremely fascinated with a subgroup
of peptides called bioregulators, and we can talk about the
differences between what people think of as peptides and what
bioregulators are.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
And then in terms of other things.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
That I'm really lit up about in this space is
really there's really two areas. One is the regenerative medicine side,
where we're talking about stem cells and exosomes. I came
across I was introduced to a company the other day
that have actually taken exisomes and taken them to the
next level and have ten thousand clinical trials under their
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not trials, ten thousand cases under their belt, and have
done jaw dropping things for people using these little compounds.
So that whole regenerative space, and then I guess the
next thing is testing right.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Both at home and in clinic.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Like testing of helping people to get insight into what's
happening in their bodies. At really, for the most part,
affordable prices is just becoming. It's just growing by leaps
and bounds, Like I'm sure you're seeing this. Every time
you turn around. There's a new test. And you know
from doctor Jennifer Pearlman's QT scan, which is hopefully going
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to eradicate mammograms altogether with a better, safer option to
the area area tear test, where you're putting a piece
of paper in your eye. It's sampling your tears, and
it's looking for specific proteins that are expressed in tears,
and women who have breast cancer are more likely to
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express a couple of specific proteins. Now, it's not a
one hundred percent test in the sense that it's ninety
two percent accurate for detecting cancer, but there's also a
lot of false positives. So it's really one of those
tests that people would use to then say, Okay, it's
time for me to get checked out further. Anyway, I
could keep going on this, but those are the areas
right now.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I think that really jump to mine.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I love it. Yeah, I would love to kind of
dive into each of those in turn. And I know
we've gotten to talk about this a little bit in
the past, but maybe give us a little bit of
a primer on peptides and the bioregulator ones, what makes
them different, what makes them the same, and which ones
kind of are your common ones that you use often?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Great, thank you.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
So. Peptides, by definition are small proteins, So some people
will say the are proteins that are fifty amino acids
in length or less. Other people might say it's the
cutoff is that one hundred amino acids. Regardless, proteins can
be hundreds, if not more, amino acids. Everything in your
body obviously is made of protein, your enzymes, your hormones,
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all your bones, your muscle, all the things. But the
peptides are very often, especially the longer chain peptides we
talk about, are very often fragments of naturally occurring proteins
in the body that have very specific signaling qualities and properties. Sorry,
So for the most part, peptides will bind two receptors
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on the surface of cells, where they will initiate chemical
cascades that can result in repair of tissue. They can
result in the activation of certain parts of the immune system.
In other cases, they can help to enhance mitochondria functions.
So there's a myriad of these peptides. There's about seven
thousand that have been identified, and I'm sure that there
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are more. The bioregulator peptides are a subset, if you will,
of the longer chain peptides I just talked about, and
these are only two to four two to four maybe
five amino acids in length, and the bioregulators were really
discovered and tested and you know, have been researched by
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a doctor and researcher in Russia by the name of
doctor Vladimir Cavinson. And these the way that they are
different from the longer chain peptides is because they're so tiny,
they actually make their way into the nucleus of the
cell and are able to epigenetically influence the way that
our genes are expressing, so they can bind to DNA.
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So the bioregulator peptide is very much a regenerative compound,
if you will, like it induces regeneration at a cellular level,
and it is also innate to our bodies. And so
I'm kind of bifurcating here, but basically the the common
ground is that they're all just amino acid chains. The
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difference is that the bioregulator peptides also can absolutely be
taken orally because they are those sequences of amino acids
are recognized by the body, and they have specific transporters
that can get them through the lumine of the gut
and also to the cells and into the nucleus that
they need to get to for the longer chain peptides,
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some of them are bioavailable orally as well, and we're
seeing them come up a lot more in a lot
of supplements from a certain supplement companies. But traditionally, the
longer chain peptides are introduced into the body by septutaneous injection,
and that's like using a little insulin needle. It's basically
like an insulin shot, which, by the way, insulin is
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the peptide that everybody's heard of, which is administered obviously
in cases of people who have advanced stages of diabetes.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yeah, and definitely, I think you're right, we're hearing much
more about these in the main stretream. I feel like
even like two years ago, they were considered like more
fringe or like the biohackers were talking about it, but
if they weren't really in mainstream at all, and now
it might still be the bubble I live in. But
I feel like I'm hearing about them so widely, and
people are using them quite widely. I'd love to also
just touch briefly. I know you've covered this sum on
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social media as well, and I'll link to some of
your posts on that. But of course, like the GLP
one peptides are now, of course very popular. Even where
I live. I hear from so many people who are
on them and have had good results. I've also heard
some very specific cautions for people to be aware of
if they're going to consider those. So I would love
your take on this because I know you dive so
deep into the research and you probably have a much
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bigger or better grasp with this concept that a lot
of people who are just taking this because they saw commercial.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
For sure, thank you. So the GLP one so now,
of course we're talking about so the lab names of
the compounds would be semaglue tide and terzepetite, or the
two that are com commercially available right now.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Semi glue tide would be known as ozempic, and terzepetide
would be known as munjaro. And then there's oral forms
of ozempic, like wigov like. There's a couple of different
variations here. The GLP one agonists are remarkable because they
actually work right then, for in all the years that
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people have been talking about, you know, here's this supplement,
here's this thing that can help with fat loss and
help you to lose really lose, and we're talking about
people who have very are very resistant to fat loss
for any number of reasons. I mean, we have postmenopausal
women in this group, we have people who metabolism is
just destroyed from years of yo yo dieting, like for
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whatever reason. And the GLP ones really move the needle
for these people. And so what's fascinating about them is,
of course GLP one is a peptide that is secreted
naturally in our gut. The thing is that it is
there for seconds, right, But what's remarkable is that the
GLP ones and the reason I think why they're so
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effective and why so many people are so enamored with them,
and I'm talking about physicians here and researchers, is they
don't just work through one pathway. They don't just suppress appetite,
they don't just do one thing. They actually are very pleaotropic.
So plaotropic is a fancy word for saying they act
on many different pathways in the body.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
So to explain that.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
A little bit, the number one thing they do is
they act on the reward centers of the brain. And
what a lot of people report that they find so
amazing is that it shuts down what we call food noise,
that constant chatter in your head about well, what are
we going to eat next? And I really need a snack,
and I really love that kind of chocolate, and I
really want ice.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Cream right now.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
So that whole little chatter box that's going on in
your head suddenly gets quieted down.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
And for a lot of people, not only is.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
That enabled, not only does that enable them to eat less,
but it's almost like it you hear people.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Saying, oh my god, the food noise is gone. It's
like they're so relieved. Right.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
The other thing that they do is that they do
cause a little bump up in resting metabolic rate. So
in the biohacking community, you'll often hear people say, oh
my god, like my heart rate is higher at night
and my HRV has tanked, and that is because of
this effect, because it's kind of like turning up the furnace,
if you will, not dramatically, but it is turning it
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up a bit. Usually after a period of time, the
HRV will come back to normal or it'll least settle down.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
It shouldn't be a big deal.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Well, it is something that we always want to keep
an eye on we want to talk to our physicians
about for people who have some kind of issue.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
But for the most part, it's just.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Not that big. It's not a negative. It's not a
big negative.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
The next thing that.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
They do is they increase feelings of satiety, so they
make you feel fuller faster, So there is an appetite
suppressing effect. Now here's where we start to get into
the good news bad news. Right.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
The good news is when you eat a meal, you
eat all.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
You typically can eat a much smaller meal and get
much fuller. And one of the ways that that happens
is by slowing down the emptying of the stomach contents.
So imagine that, you know, for some people that got
you've got your stomach, you've got the passage down through
to the small intestine and onwards, and that transit time
is really fast right there, it's almost I don't think
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it's less fast, but imagine almost like as you're filling
the stomach, it's emptying out at the same time.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
So they seem to have this incredible capacity to just.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Eat neat But by slowing down that whole process, that
means that you're filling the stomach and it's you know
it's not going anywhere, and your stomach's not that big,
So basically you get this feeling of fullness much sooner,
and it does this by slowing down transit time. Now,
the dark side of that is that for many people
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it can drive constipation. Right, so we have to be
very mindful that we are staying hydrated, which is another
issue is people don't feel as thirsty, so you have
to remain hydrated. You got to get your fiber in,
you got to be you got to be watchful, right
because the last thing you want is to lose weight
and store toxins in your body. So we need to
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keep an eye on that and manage it. But it
is a remarkable way to just get people to start
to really become reacquainted with the concept of portion control. Now,
the next bad news on this one is that when
people eat a lot less, everything that they put into
their mouth becomes really important. So one of the big
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criticisms of the JLP one's is that, yes, people lose
a lot of weight, but they lose muscle and they
become less healthy. And that's because very often the choices
that they're making in their diet are not optimal. I mean,
imagine if you're a person who's kind of addicted to
sugar and you figure out that you can have all
the sweet things that you like, maybe not as much
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as you like, but you can still eat your sweets
and you can still lose weight. So for a lot
of these people, this is nirvana. It's like, oh my god,
this is amazing. I can eat my doughnuts and I
can still fit into my size six or four skinny genes.
The bad news is that if you choose to do that,
you're now robbing your body of the nutrients it needs,
and if you're not giving yourself enough protein, the chances
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of you losing too much muscle in the process of
this fat loss go way way up. And now the
dark side is that at the end of the day,
when you get to your target weight and you stop
using GLP ones, here you are kind of skinny fat.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
You have no muscle left.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
We know that muscle is massively important for metabolic health
on top of everything else, and your appetite is going
to come roaring back, and this is going to be
the worst version of THEO yo dieting you've ever experienced.
So the other thing that has to happen while you're
using glp ones to preserve that lean muscle. And this
is like a law of nature. If you don't use it,
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you're going to lose it. Is you have to lift weights,
you have to work out, you must exercise and keep moving.
So the caveats on the JLP ones prioritize protein and exercise.
You got to watch it basically do all the lifestyle things.
So I one of the things I say to people
when they're using glp ones is take this as your invitation,
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because now that the food noise is gone and the
cravings are gone, take this as your invitation to reboot
your taste buds, to reboot your diet, to relearn how
to eat real whole foods and to eat that protein,
to exercise, focus on your sleep, focus on your lifestyle.
All the good things we know, and so beyond that,
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I mean, there's other pathways that the glp ones are
celebrated for. And this is why they're being researched in
for Alzheimer's neurodegenerative diseases. They're being shown to be beneficial
for cardiovascular health. They're also being studied for kidney health.
Like they just have this satellite of benefits. Inflammation goes
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down in the body, which again is already a huge
benefit for people. People find that their pain goes down.
And there was one other thing I wanted to say,
it'll come back to me.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I mean, I can stop.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
But there's also there's black box warnings that should be
people should be aware of as well. So the black
box warnings on the GLP ones are for a rare
type of thyroid cancer which has only really been observed
in rats, but it remains a warning on the label.
There's a risk of gastroparesis, which is a problem that
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happens in the stomach, very painful, so again we need
to be very mindful of that and be working with
our practitioners. There's a risk of pancreatitis which can happen spontaneously,
which is extremely painful and really not good for you.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
And then the other things that we see in some people.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
They can get very very tired, and so sometimes there's
people who just don't tolerate these compounds. They're very sad
because all their friends are using them and getting great results.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
It can happen. Right as much as people will say this.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Is super safe, there's always caveasts, so there's no free lunch.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Right.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Oh, this is the thing I meant to say. It
also improves your insulin sensitivity, so it makes it easier
for your body, particularly scaltal muscle, to take up glucose
out of the and fuel out of the bloodstream into
the muscles. And this is why so many physicians who
are hearing people saying if you take a GLP one,
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your muscle's gonna melt, They're like, no, you're not. Actually, theoretically,
it will make it easier for you to work out.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
It's just that you need to do the work.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Ass that makes sense. I feel like that's the best
and most balanced, in depth kind of primer. I've heard
of those, and I think very important things for anyone
who might be considering it. I know also there is
a segment of our audience. A lot of us are moms,
and people might be in the pregnancy or breastfeeding stages
of life. I know from my understanding there's no safety
data on this in general, so this is almost beyond
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ask your doctor. This is more of a we really
don't know, so it's not safe kind of situation. But
knowing that those are available after those phases for recovery
probably can be very encouraging, which brings me to the
next topic. I'm excited to learn from you on because
I follow you on this and occasionally have done and
try to do things based on your recommendation, even just
on social media. But that is the topic of testing,
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and like you mentioned, there's now so much more testing
widely available than we've ever had before. I feel like
data and our own information about our own bodies is
more accessible than we've ever seen it throughout history. It
also feels like there can be a little bit of
overwhelmed because there are so many things available. It's like
the decision fatigue of what to actually prioritize and focus on,
especially if there's budget concerns, with which most of us
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have in some capacity. So I would love to hear
what kind of testing you consider most important, kind of
your own eighty twenty and what you personally do to
keep an eye on as this is all now available
so much more easily.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Look, the bottom line is the most important testing is
always going to be your blood work. It's just you know,
people sometimes get caught up and all the fancy stuff
and they forget the basics, and you can. If you're
working with a good practitioner, the basics will always give
them great information. But even the basics are not necessarily enough.
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So things like a full thyroid panel, which I'm sure
you've had guests talk about before, Like just getting a TSH.
It's never been good enough and there's no excuse for
it now, right, So we want our TSH. We want
our free T three three T four RT three. I mean,
if your free T three three, T four and TSH
are great, and you're having no symptoms and you're in
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great shape, you may not need to go as deep
as RT three. But anytime there's an issue or a
suspicion of an issue with a thyroid, we want to
make sure that we're digging deeper than the surface. Next,
the next one that I think is really important to
dig deep on is lipid panels.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
So this is cholesterol.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Just getting HDLDL on its own is generally not enough, right.
We want to get into the weeds with the LDL
with the blood lippets.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
And that's become really easy. Like I have a kit
in my bag.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Of course I can't get it in Canada, so I
had to order the kit from the States. I have
to wait till I'm in the States go for my
blood draws in the States. I think the company is
called Empower. So what happens is yourn Conventional doctors often
are very resistant to going deeper on these labs for
I'm not going to go into any of the reasons.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I don't know why people but for whatever reason.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
So the cool thing is you can go to this
I think the company's called them Power. They have an
in depth LIPT panel where you're going to get a
report on not just your hdl LDL, but it's going
to go deep into the VLDL like very low density lipoproteins.
It's going to talk to you about is your LDL
fluffy or is it little? Is it oxidized which is
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the damaging kind. It's ninety nine bucks. I think this
kit it's really I mean, it's really affordable for many
people and it's really important information. Now, staying on this theme,
and this has been a massive discussion recently in my
membership community, is getting a test called CIMT and then
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it's the.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Cardio intima medial something.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
It's basically the carotid artery and they image the carotid
arteries in the neck, and what they're looking for is
PLAQ and the amound. The percentage of plaque you have
happening in your carotid arteries is very indicative of your
potential risk for stroke and heart disease. Okay, if you
can get that imaging done, you now get real insight.
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Is your diet really working for you? Do you have
a risk of cardiovascular disease? Is it possible that you
might have to go into more advanced situation strategies to
make sure that that plaqu's not happening. Like this discussion
in the biohacking world of cholesterol is good, there's no
bad cholesterol. We need cholesterol is very It lacks nuance.
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We do need cholesterol. Obviously, there's cholesterol in every cell
membrane of your body. It's a critical component. But it's
oversimplifying to just send people out blindly thinking that they
can eat all the saturated fat in the world because
somebody's decided it's good. When you need to see, what
you need to see is how is my body responding
to this diet or this saturated fat, and that you know,
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also having a decent genetic tests done, you only need
to get it done once, but it's going to give
you insight into certain risk factors. Like for example, I
just recorded a podcast and released. I don't know if
you've met her, doctor Christy Sutton. She talks about iron
overload in the system, which many people don't talk about.
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Really flies under the radar, is wildly bad for you
and can cause no end to trouble, and doctors just
aren't paying attention to this. Well, if you have the
markers for iron overload, then at least you know to
keep an eye on these things. Right, If you have
an APO little A or if you're an apoe four
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to four, which you're at a higher risk for certain
for developing certain conditions, well if you have insight into that,
then you know where you need to lead your attention.
If I'm personally, like genetically at a much higher risk
of developing type two diabetes, which I could have told
you because everybody in my family develops type two ibetes
as they age, and so I know that I have
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to be really watchful of my blood sugar, my insulin levels,
like all of those things. And I can't afford to
even play with certain types of diets that other people can.
So genetic testing is really important. And then I think
the next one would be microbiome testing, getting insight into microbiome.
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I mean, everybody's running around throwing probiotics at themselves. You know.
They hear a podcast on how important acromancia is and
they go out and they buy the acromancia probiotic and
they load up on females. So here's the good news
bad news on acromancia. If you have no acromancia, you
have a much higher risk of being overweight. But if
you have too much acromancia, that acromancia can drive gut
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inflammation because what acromancia does is it feeds on the mucus,
on the on the lining of the gut. In good amounts,
that's a good thing. When you have too much, they're
just going to go to town and you're going to
get into trouble. So and that's just one example, right,
So there's lots of different we have. There's imaging for now,
(27:06):
there's imaging for cancer. There's a blood test that says
that they can and I haven't really dug into this one,
but this is a blood test that is saying that
they can detect cancer at stage zero, so before there's
even a tumor there. There's tests now, the THEEOM test.
I don't know if you've come across this. This is
(27:26):
a metabolo mix test, and so they're not only looking
at your genetics, but they're looking at twelve different areas
of the metabolum, which is essentially how your body is
expressing all everything that's going on in there. So they
can give you insight into your into your into your
micro nutrient status. So if you're if we have deficiencies
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in little things that we don't even realize that can
eventually drive problems down the road, but if we correct
those deficiencies, then all of a sudden, the body has
what it needs to do what it needs to do.
I could keep going, but I feel like I'm just talking.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
That was such a great list, and to your point,
like these are now so much more affordable. I remember
when I was first trying to figure out my own
thyroid stuff with hashimotos years ago, and I think it
was almost impossible to even find a doctor who would
order the test even though I wanted to pay for them.
And then it was a couple thousand dollars I think
to get a full thyroid panel, and like you said,
now you can get these even at like walk in labs,
often for under one hundred dollars in some cases. So
(28:25):
I'm so glad that there's now better consumer access to
things like this. I think your list was so helpful.
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also a great springboard into kind of the topic of
preventive regenerative medicine, which I know is something you've also
done a lot of research on. I'm forgetting the name
of it, but I know there's a very popular documentary
right now from someone who is spending an insane amount
of money per year to not age, and I have
not seen it yet, but from what I've heard of it,
I feel like I personally would maybe take a different
(31:17):
approach in some areas, especially things like sunlight. But I
would actually love your take because I think I respect
your voice in this area much more than his or
others that I've heard from on what do you consider
actually the most important things when it comes to longevity,
and not just not aging and how we look on
our face, but actually like what's happening sellularly and supporting
our body on a biological level.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Yeah, I think the person you're talking about or thinking
about is Brian Johnson. I have also not watched the document,
which you know, I guess maybe someday we should make
a date and watch it together. But you know, I
agree with you on I mean, Brian Johnson's a guy
who's taken this on as a project.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Right. Not only does he not only does he want
to I mean he.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Never wants to die obviously, or maybe he wants to
die in a really, really really long time, but he's
very focused on reversing his biological age, which obviously is
something we want to do, all of us to some degree.
We don't want to be living in a state of
accelerated aging at the very least, we want to be
aging at an appropriate rate. But it is entirely possible
(32:22):
that we can slow down aging at a foundational level.
And you know, there's all kinds of crazy things that
he's doing, right. He does this plasma exchange with his
son where he takes his son's plasma and has it
infused into his own veins. I'm not even clear on
all of the different things he's doing, but he's definitely
I think he takes what is it like one hundred
(32:43):
and twenty two hundred supplements a day, and he's monitoring
every single thing. Everything in his body is being monitored
and measured every minute of every hour of every day.
And like you, I do feel like I mean, this
is a man's living a science experiment.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
He's not.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
It doesn't sound I don't know him. It doesn't sound
like he's really living life to the fullest. And I
think that what's getting left off the table here is
the human piece of aging. Well, so obviously we want
to control for inflammation. We want to reduce systemic inflammation
as much as possible, because inflammating is fundamentally one of
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the key factors in that's driving accelerated aging. We want to,
of course, have a low glycemic diet. Now, whatever that
looks like for you, whether it's a keto diet or
a low carb diet, or for some people because of
their physiology and the way their body works, they can
still eat a relatively high carb diet. It's still going
to be whole food. But there's many different ways to
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skin this cat Like, I refuse to be told that
there's only.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
One way to do this.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
It just hasn't It hasn't played out, you know, avoiding
foods that are incredibly inflammatory, moving your body and exercising,
building strength, building your VO two max. All of these
things are critically important. But community connection, seeing the sun,
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leveraging natural light. Do we need to be laying out
in the sun and tanning all day long?
Speaker 1 (34:16):
One hundred percent?
Speaker 3 (34:17):
No, But do we need our skin to connect with
the sun on a daily basis if it's possible, Like
I mean, I live in a client where it's not.
Do we need to put our feet on the ground,
bare foot so that we can ground? One hundred percent.
These are all things that are going to feed our
bodies at a cellular and an energetic level. And then
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the other piece of it, which I haven't even mentioned,
is this whole aspect of community, quality of life, living
with joy, living with gratitude.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
These are all really, really, these are wildly.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Important factors that if we don't keep those in play,
if we live this highly stressed life at all times
and are disconnected, we're going to age badly. Like you know,
if you look at the blue zones, whatever you think
about the blue zones, and whatever we think about how
people figured out what these people we're eating, which may
(35:11):
or may not have been fully accurate, the thing that
is constant through these blue zones is this concept of
community and connection, physical movement, exposure, being outside, being in nature.
These are the common threads that unite every blue zone
to each other.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
I'm so glad you brought that up. My friend doctor
Lauren says often that humans are nutrients, and I love
that because I think it really like highlights, how that
is often intangible and it's not something we could lab
test for, but it really is built into our biology.
And I think so many issues in modern the modern
world could be boiled down to what I call nature
deficit disorder and connection deficit disorder. Actually think like those
(35:51):
are maybe two of the most impactful things to focus on,
and thankfully, in most cases those things are free. Like
I know, you and I live in a world where
there's always the next like multi thousand dollars fancy device
or super expensive supplement, But at the end of the day,
going outside is free. Nature is free. Prioritizing time with
people we love.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
That's free. Getting good sleep.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Hopefully there's things we can buy to help with that,
but getting sleep is free. Like the things that really
matter don't have to be expensive or complicated, and I
feel like they can often get overlooked because the shiny
new thing is sometimes more exciting. But I know you
talk about this as well, and I see your post
on social too. It's like those things can be great,
and the foundational things without the foundational things that are
not going to be as impactful as they could. So
(36:32):
if you're going to spend all this money on the fancy,
expensive things, it's really helpful to get those foundational things
lined up first. You get the biggest bang for the
buck when you spend money on those things.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
I mean, look, there's no doubt that having a good
PMF matt, having a red light panel like having those
having acts. Even molecular hydrogen is another one. Like I
started out way back talking about molecular hydrogen to anyone
who sits still long enough to listen to me, and
I've circled back to it now. You know, like there
are certain things that are being made available to us
(37:06):
that can be real game changers. And I think part
of that is because of the world we live in, right,
the world we live in is becoming more difficult for
our physiology to adapt to. And so that's where the
tech and the supplements and all these advanced things come in,
because our bodies do need help coping with what we've
with what we're being faced with. The other thing is
(37:28):
I think that our expectations about how we age have changed.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Right, if you go back a.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Number of generations, people expected to feel and look old
and not move the same maybe in their sixties and
their seventies and their eighties, like there was this this
kind of how am I going to put it, This
acceptance of an aging process that we now no longer
accept And so this is in large part why hormone
(37:55):
therapy has become so discuss you know, it's such a
big deal. Like I would say that if we want
to age well, balancing, keeping our hormones balanced and optimizing
them at a reasonable degree is going to become really important,
both for mostly for women, because men have an easier
time hanging keeping their hormone levels high if they're playing
(38:18):
their cards right, right, Because you know, a guy who's
out drinking and partying, doesn't exercise, doesn't sleep, super stressed,
his testosterone levels are going to tank. And that'll happen
even in their thirties, even younger. Right, we're seeing that now.
But for a woman, once you get past menopause, the
factory shuts down, like the ovaries are done. They pass
(38:39):
the baton over to the adrenal glands, who already have
a lot to do, and they're like, all right, we'll
do what we can. But you know, so, as a result,
as our estrogen levels fall off a cliff, our bones
start to degrade, our brain doesn't work as well, obviously,
our skin, all of these different things start to go
with it.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
So keeping those.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
Horns hormones balanced, and I'm not saying let's take us
back to when we were twenty, but keeping the hormones
balanced is a critical piece of aging.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Well for a woman.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
I will say, though, that's what's really exciting in the
regenerative space that you asked about, is there's a lot
more people now really tackling this problem, well, this problem,
this fact of ovarian aging. So as our ovaries age,
so do we. And I interviewed a guy a couple
of years ago now or maybe a year ago. His
(39:31):
name is Zach Barcaris, and he's doing really interesting work
where they're doing stem cell injections into women's ovaries and
they're delaying menopauds. They're delaying and they're showing that these
women their rate of aging slows down dramatically. And there
are other people working on this exact strategy now in
(39:55):
his case, if it's the right woman and she's in
the right state of health and it's what you want,
they may even be able to keep.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Her fertile longer.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Now that brings up a whole list of other ethical
issues and whatever what have you, which I'm not even
going to touch. But the fact is that if we
can slow down the age, it turns out that if
we can slow down the aging process and the ovaries,
we can slow down our own aging process.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
That is fascinating and I have not heard that, but
I think I love that you brought that up as well.
It does seem like there's less tolerance for the natural
process of aging, and that like we also do have
a lot more things we can do to support the
body and kind of slow that down. But it's like
finding that balance of not like disallowing the natural and
wonderful parts of aging. And I read a quote once.
It was something along the lines of, like, we only
(40:43):
get this one life, Like I don't want to age gracefully.
I want to age with mischief, audacity, and a great
story to tell. And I kind of take that approach
of like, I don't want to like speed it up.
I've in no rush to age quickly. However, I don't
want to trade life experience and a hell of a
story for you know, not having frown lines or whatever
it may be people are so worried about. I think
to your point, I think you're right kind of the
best outcomes are when we get those foundational things, and
(41:06):
because of the number of negative inputs we're exposed to
in the modern world, we can strategically use all these
new tools to our advantage to help our body have
the best whether it be detox or recovery or whatever
it is that we're working with. I'd also love your
take briefly on things like minerals and micro nutrients, because
those are two categories I've been kind of deeply delving
into the last couple of years, and even kind of
(41:28):
reframed my nutritional approach much more away from macros or
calories and into micronutrient density, realizing that it seems like
the body, if it's not getting enough micronutrients, will always
keep craving food to attempt to get those nutrients, even
if it's had enough calories. And then for me personally,
it seems like dialing in my minerals has been a
game changer for my energy levels and how I feel.
(41:49):
So I love your take on those and what you
personally do. Kind of from a supplement strategy perspective, I
know that's different for everybody, but it seems like you
have a lot of great tools at your disposal there.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Yeah, that's such a really big it's such a huge
topic and I think it's not talked about nearly enough.
So at a foundational level, I use a product called
BEM minerals, and I use them because what they're doing
is they these are soil derived micro trace minerals that
are being delivered to the body. And people might say, well,
(42:20):
shouldn't you be able to get that from food? Yes,
we should be able to get it from food, But
the truth of the matter is that our soils are
incredibly depleted and unless you have access to all constant
access to and I'm not just talking organic here, I'm
talking about biodynamically farmed food where the farmer is actually
nourishing the soil so that the plant can uptake the
(42:43):
micronutrients in the minerals that you need for your body
that will then be synthesized by the plant. So at
a foundational level, I'm gonna use I use.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
Something that's what I use. I use Beam.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
I also have a product, really neat product, I think
they're from Australia called boy Buoy.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Have you come up across these. It's a really interesting
little it's a liquid. It's a little bottle.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
You can have it in your purse and you just
squirt a little bit into your water, your drink, and
super easy to take when you're on the go. I
think that getting minerals assessed is a good idea, especially
if you've got like weird symptoms that are kind of
very subtle. There's nothing that your doctor can do for you,
(43:25):
but something's off and you just don't know why. So
I'm a fan of hair tissue mineral analysis. Your blood
work is going to have some information about that as well.
But HTMA is also really fascinating because they're going to
look at the mineral balance in your body, and very
often the ratios between different minerals can be indicative of
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things like adrenal fatigue or a thyroid imbalance. Like what
we have to remember. And I think it's so your
approach is so great because it's the micronutrients and the minerals,
the vitamins, the minerals, the little trace elements that nobody
thinks about. Those are the cofactors for all of the
(44:07):
different processes in our body to happen. So there's this
thing called, for example, the CREB cycle, and this is
how your body makes ATP, which is the energy currency
of the cell. Well, for each of those steps in
the Creb cycle to take place, you need micronutrients. You
might need one step might need vitamin B six, it
might need copper, it might need zinc, it might need magnesium.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
And if we.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
Become massively deficient or imbalanced in any of those things,
it's going to impair our body's ability to make that.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
Energy.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
It's going to impair your body's ability to make ADP
if your cells don't have enough ATP energy your body's really.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
It will hack whatever it can.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
It'll do what it can to keep the lights on
and keep you going and keep you moving, but you
will accumulate deficits over time. Those eventually will show up
as either symptoms of fatigue or brain FuG or I
don't know anything, and or the eventual development of certain
types of diseases. And into those things, those little micronutrients,
(45:14):
the vitamins, the minerals, those are the things that we
don't think about that we have to keep an eye
on so that we can just keep that foundational function
happening in the body at a cellar level. Because if
we can keep that happy, so much unfold because we
now are your body's able to apply its wisdom that
(45:36):
we can't even begin to match.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
I love that. Yeah, definitely same team on that. What
the micro nutrients of the minerals, I think those can
be tremendously powerful lovers and ones they don't get enough
talk and so I love that we got to delve
it into those. And I know you have so many
resources available online and I will definitely link to those
in the show notes for anyone listening who wants to
keep learning from you or follow along with your work.
Where can they find you and where can they jump in?
(45:59):
Where would you suggest they start?
Speaker 3 (46:01):
Thanks Katie, So best place to start probably is just
the part I mean. I'm looking forward to hosting you
on my podcast. So I've got a podcast Longevity with
Natalie Nidam on Instagram at Natalie Nidam. That'll give you
a little bit of insight into a lot of the
things that we talked about today. I have a newsletter
that people can sign up for on natnim dot com
(46:21):
and when you sign up for my newsletter, you get.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
An eight part series email.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
Where I really talk about a lot of these basics
and foundations and I often get really cool messages back
from people who are just really loving that information. Just
out of again, it's a foundational it's foundational information, but
we go deep. We go deep on sleep and stress
and diet, all the things, and then beyond that, you know.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
For connecting in person.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
I do host a membership community and you can find
information about that natinidem dot com.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Amazing. All of those links will be in the show
notes for any of you guys listening on the go
and nott. This is so fun. I always love learning
from you. I'm excited to get to switch roles and
be on your podcast soon, but for today, thank you
so much for your time and for all the in
depth research you do and for everything that you shared.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
This was awesome. Thank you so much, Katie.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
It's always a pleasure, and like you said, I can't
wait to have you on the other side of the mic.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
And thank you as always for listening and sharing your
most valuable resources, your time, your energy, and your attention
with us today. We're both so grateful that you did
and I hope that you will join me again on
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I really appreciate your time and thanks as always for listening.
Well on through My Body's podcast.
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welcome to the Wellness Mama Podcast. I'm Katie from Waldnessmama
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my creatrians, and longevity and I'm here with my friend
(02:37):
Nat Needham, who is such a wealth of knowledge. I
love following her on social media because she's always posting
like really deep dive practical tips with really actionable steps,
and I feel like she's so knowledgeable and a great
voice when it comes to all things peptides, longevity, supplements,
and so much more. She is a holistic nutritionist and
a longevity educator dedicated to helping us all live joyful
(03:00):
and vibrant lives into our fifties, sixties and far beyond,
and shell like I said, shares all kinds of strategies
from health tech to ancestral health, to peptides, to supplements
and more. And she also has a podcast called Longevity
Podcast with Nadaline Andem and she also speaks internationally especially
on topics like bioregulators, which don't get talked about that much,
and much more. You will, I know, learn a lot
(03:22):
from this episode, So let's jump in. Nat.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Welcome.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I'm so excited to have you here. Thank you for
being here today, Katie.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
It is an absolute pleasure. Thank you so much for
having me. I think I'm here partly because Todd Shipman
reconnected us after I had him on the podcast and
he said, oh my god, do you know my friend Katie,
And I'm like, yeah, so here we are. Oh.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I love it. I love Todd, and I feel like
I've known you for a long time at least we've
We've seen each other at events quite a bit, and
I followed your work online for a long time. I've
always learning tips from you, even from just Instagram posts,
because you're so good at going deep and taking complex
topics and making them both simple and applicable, which I love.
I think that's a superpower. And I know that you
are knowledgeable on so so many topics that we can
(04:04):
never cover all of them in one podcast episode. But
I definitely would love to hear from you kind of
state of the Union, updates of what you're finding most
interesting right now, and especially maybe in the peptide world,
because I feel like you're one of the leading voices
when it comes to peptides.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Thank you, Katie. And by the way, I feel the
exact same about you.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
You know, I think that, I mean, look, peptides are
definitely you know, over the last I guess I've been
really leaning into the peptide space for the last five
to six years, and there are people who've been in
it for a lot longer. But what we're seeing now
is it's starting to bubble up into I wouldn't call
it exactly the main mainstream, but the at least the
(04:44):
early adopter mainstream where people are becoming aware of peptides.
They remain quite controversial because, of course, many of them
are not approved for human use. They're still categorized as
research chemicals. But you know, what's also happening is that
there's this race to make them bioavailable in ways other
(05:04):
than sepcutaneous injections, which typically are classically is the way
that they're used most often. And then, of course, as
you probably know, I'm also extremely fascinated with a subgroup
of peptides called bioregulators, and we can talk about the
differences between what people think of as peptides and what
bioregulators are.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
And then in terms of other things.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
That I'm really lit up about in this space is
really there's really two areas. One is the regenerative medicine side,
where we're talking about stem cells and exosomes. I came
across I was introduced to a company the other day
that have actually taken exisomes and taken them to the
next level and have ten thousand clinical trials under their
(05:44):
not trials, ten thousand cases under their belt, and have
done jaw dropping things for people using these little compounds.
So that whole regenerative space, and then I guess the
next thing is testing right.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Both at home and in clinic.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Like testing of helping people to get insight into what's
happening in their bodies. At really, for the most part,
affordable prices is just becoming. It's just growing by leaps
and bounds, Like I'm sure you're seeing this. Every time
you turn around. There's a new test. And you know
from doctor Jennifer Pearlman's QT scan, which is hopefully going
(06:25):
to eradicate mammograms altogether with a better, safer option to
the area area tear test, where you're putting a piece
of paper in your eye. It's sampling your tears, and
it's looking for specific proteins that are expressed in tears,
and women who have breast cancer are more likely to
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express a couple of specific proteins. Now, it's not a
one hundred percent test in the sense that it's ninety
two percent accurate for detecting cancer, but there's also a
lot of false positives. So it's really one of those
tests that people would use to then say, Okay, it's
time for me to get checked out further. Anyway, I
could keep going on this, but those are the areas
right now.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I think that really jump to mine.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I love it. Yeah, I would love to kind of
dive into each of those in turn. And I know
we've gotten to talk about this a little bit in
the past, but maybe give us a little bit of
a primer on peptides and the bioregulator ones, what makes
them different, what makes them the same, and which ones
kind of are your common ones that you use often?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Great, thank you.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
So. Peptides, by definition are small proteins, So some people
will say the are proteins that are fifty amino acids
in length or less. Other people might say it's the
cutoff is that one hundred amino acids. Regardless, proteins can
be hundreds, if not more, amino acids. Everything in your
body obviously is made of protein, your enzymes, your hormones,
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all your bones, your muscle, all the things. But the
peptides are very often, especially the longer chain peptides we
talk about, are very often fragments of naturally occurring proteins
in the body that have very specific signaling qualities and properties. Sorry,
So for the most part, peptides will bind two receptors
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on the surface of cells, where they will initiate chemical
cascades that can result in repair of tissue. They can
result in the activation of certain parts of the immune system.
In other cases, they can help to enhance mitochondria functions.
So there's a myriad of these peptides. There's about seven
thousand that have been identified, and I'm sure that there
(08:30):
are more. The bioregulator peptides are a subset, if you will,
of the longer chain peptides I just talked about, and
these are only two to four two to four maybe
five amino acids in length, and the bioregulators were really
discovered and tested and you know, have been researched by
(08:51):
a doctor and researcher in Russia by the name of
doctor Vladimir Cavinson. And these the way that they are
different from the longer chain peptides is because they're so tiny,
they actually make their way into the nucleus of the
cell and are able to epigenetically influence the way that
our genes are expressing, so they can bind to DNA.
(09:13):
So the bioregulator peptide is very much a regenerative compound,
if you will, like it induces regeneration at a cellular level,
and it is also innate to our bodies. And so
I'm kind of bifurcating here, but basically the the common
ground is that they're all just amino acid chains. The
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difference is that the bioregulator peptides also can absolutely be
taken orally because they are those sequences of amino acids
are recognized by the body, and they have specific transporters
that can get them through the lumine of the gut
and also to the cells and into the nucleus that
they need to get to for the longer chain peptides,
(09:57):
some of them are bioavailable orally as well, and we're
seeing them come up a lot more in a lot
of supplements from a certain supplement companies. But traditionally, the
longer chain peptides are introduced into the body by septutaneous injection,
and that's like using a little insulin needle. It's basically
like an insulin shot, which, by the way, insulin is
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the peptide that everybody's heard of, which is administered obviously
in cases of people who have advanced stages of diabetes.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yeah, and definitely, I think you're right, we're hearing much
more about these in the main stretream. I feel like
even like two years ago, they were considered like more
fringe or like the biohackers were talking about it, but
if they weren't really in mainstream at all, and now
it might still be the bubble I live in. But
I feel like I'm hearing about them so widely, and
people are using them quite widely. I'd love to also
just touch briefly. I know you've covered this sum on
(10:47):
social media as well, and I'll link to some of
your posts on that. But of course, like the GLP
one peptides are now, of course very popular. Even where
I live. I hear from so many people who are
on them and have had good results. I've also heard
some very specific cautions for people to be aware of
if they're going to consider those. So I would love
your take on this because I know you dive so
deep into the research and you probably have a much
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bigger or better grasp with this concept that a lot
of people who are just taking this because they saw commercial.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
For sure, thank you. So the GLP one so now,
of course we're talking about so the lab names of
the compounds would be semaglue tide and terzepetite, or the
two that are com commercially available right now.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Semi glue tide would be known as ozempic, and terzepetide
would be known as munjaro. And then there's oral forms
of ozempic, like wigov like. There's a couple of different
variations here. The GLP one agonists are remarkable because they
actually work right then, for in all the years that
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people have been talking about, you know, here's this supplement,
here's this thing that can help with fat loss and
help you to lose really lose, and we're talking about
people who have very are very resistant to fat loss
for any number of reasons. I mean, we have postmenopausal
women in this group, we have people who metabolism is
just destroyed from years of yo yo dieting, like for
(12:07):
whatever reason. And the GLP ones really move the needle
for these people. And so what's fascinating about them is,
of course GLP one is a peptide that is secreted
naturally in our gut. The thing is that it is
there for seconds, right, But what's remarkable is that the
GLP ones and the reason I think why they're so
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effective and why so many people are so enamored with them,
and I'm talking about physicians here and researchers, is they
don't just work through one pathway. They don't just suppress appetite,
they don't just do one thing. They actually are very pleaotropic.
So plaotropic is a fancy word for saying they act
on many different pathways in the body.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
So to explain that.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
A little bit, the number one thing they do is
they act on the reward centers of the brain. And
what a lot of people report that they find so
amazing is that it shuts down what we call food noise,
that constant chatter in your head about well, what are
we going to eat next? And I really need a snack,
and I really love that kind of chocolate, and I
really want ice.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Cream right now.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
So that whole little chatter box that's going on in
your head suddenly gets quieted down.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
And for a lot of people, not only is.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
That enabled, not only does that enable them to eat less,
but it's almost like it you hear people.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Saying, oh my god, the food noise is gone. It's
like they're so relieved. Right.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
The other thing that they do is that they do
cause a little bump up in resting metabolic rate. So
in the biohacking community, you'll often hear people say, oh
my god, like my heart rate is higher at night
and my HRV has tanked, and that is because of
this effect, because it's kind of like turning up the furnace,
if you will, not dramatically, but it is turning it
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up a bit. Usually after a period of time, the
HRV will come back to normal or it'll least settle down.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
It shouldn't be a big deal.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Well, it is something that we always want to keep
an eye on we want to talk to our physicians
about for people who have some kind of issue.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
But for the most part, it's just.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Not that big. It's not a negative. It's not a
big negative.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
The next thing that.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
They do is they increase feelings of satiety, so they
make you feel fuller faster, So there is an appetite
suppressing effect. Now here's where we start to get into
the good news bad news. Right.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
The good news is when you eat a meal, you
eat all.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
You typically can eat a much smaller meal and get
much fuller. And one of the ways that that happens
is by slowing down the emptying of the stomach contents.
So imagine that, you know, for some people that got
you've got your stomach, you've got the passage down through
to the small intestine and onwards, and that transit time
is really fast right there, it's almost I don't think
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it's less fast, but imagine almost like as you're filling
the stomach, it's emptying out at the same time.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
So they seem to have this incredible capacity to just.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Eat neat But by slowing down that whole process, that
means that you're filling the stomach and it's you know
it's not going anywhere, and your stomach's not that big,
So basically you get this feeling of fullness much sooner,
and it does this by slowing down transit time. Now,
the dark side of that is that for many people
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it can drive constipation. Right, so we have to be
very mindful that we are staying hydrated, which is another
issue is people don't feel as thirsty, so you have
to remain hydrated. You got to get your fiber in,
you got to be you got to be watchful, right
because the last thing you want is to lose weight
and store toxins in your body. So we need to
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keep an eye on that and manage it. But it
is a remarkable way to just get people to start
to really become reacquainted with the concept of portion control. Now,
the next bad news on this one is that when
people eat a lot less, everything that they put into
their mouth becomes really important. So one of the big
(16:07):
criticisms of the JLP one's is that, yes, people lose
a lot of weight, but they lose muscle and they
become less healthy. And that's because very often the choices
that they're making in their diet are not optimal. I mean,
imagine if you're a person who's kind of addicted to
sugar and you figure out that you can have all
the sweet things that you like, maybe not as much
(16:27):
as you like, but you can still eat your sweets
and you can still lose weight. So for a lot
of these people, this is nirvana. It's like, oh my god,
this is amazing. I can eat my doughnuts and I
can still fit into my size six or four skinny genes.
The bad news is that if you choose to do that,
you're now robbing your body of the nutrients it needs,
and if you're not giving yourself enough protein, the chances
(16:50):
of you losing too much muscle in the process of
this fat loss go way way up. And now the
dark side is that at the end of the day,
when you get to your target weight and you stop
using GLP ones, here you are kind of skinny fat.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
You have no muscle left.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
We know that muscle is massively important for metabolic health
on top of everything else, and your appetite is going
to come roaring back, and this is going to be
the worst version of THEO yo dieting you've ever experienced.
So the other thing that has to happen while you're
using glp ones to preserve that lean muscle. And this
is like a law of nature. If you don't use it,
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you're going to lose it. Is you have to lift weights,
you have to work out, you must exercise and keep moving.
So the caveats on the JLP ones prioritize protein and exercise.
You got to watch it basically do all the lifestyle things.
So I one of the things I say to people
when they're using glp ones is take this as your invitation,
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because now that the food noise is gone and the
cravings are gone, take this as your invitation to reboot
your taste buds, to reboot your diet, to relearn how
to eat real whole foods and to eat that protein,
to exercise, focus on your sleep, focus on your lifestyle.
All the good things we know, and so beyond that,
(18:10):
I mean, there's other pathways that the glp ones are
celebrated for. And this is why they're being researched in
for Alzheimer's neurodegenerative diseases. They're being shown to be beneficial
for cardiovascular health. They're also being studied for kidney health.
Like they just have this satellite of benefits. Inflammation goes
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down in the body, which again is already a huge
benefit for people. People find that their pain goes down.
And there was one other thing I wanted to say,
it'll come back to me.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I mean, I can stop.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
But there's also there's black box warnings that should be
people should be aware of as well. So the black
box warnings on the GLP ones are for a rare
type of thyroid cancer which has only really been observed
in rats, but it remains a warning on the label.
There's a risk of gastroparesis, which is a problem that
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happens in the stomach, very painful, so again we need
to be very mindful of that and be working with
our practitioners. There's a risk of pancreatitis which can happen spontaneously,
which is extremely painful and really not good for you.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
And then the other things that we see in some people.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
They can get very very tired, and so sometimes there's
people who just don't tolerate these compounds. They're very sad
because all their friends are using them and getting great results.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
It can happen. Right as much as people will say this.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Is super safe, there's always caveasts, so there's no free lunch.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Right.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Oh, this is the thing I meant to say. It
also improves your insulin sensitivity, so it makes it easier
for your body, particularly scaltal muscle, to take up glucose
out of the and fuel out of the bloodstream into
the muscles. And this is why so many physicians who
are hearing people saying if you take a GLP one,
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your muscle's gonna melt, They're like, no, you're not. Actually, theoretically,
it will make it easier for you to work out.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
It's just that you need to do the work.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Ass that makes sense. I feel like that's the best
and most balanced, in depth kind of primer. I've heard
of those, and I think very important things for anyone
who might be considering it. I know also there is
a segment of our audience. A lot of us are moms,
and people might be in the pregnancy or breastfeeding stages
of life. I know from my understanding there's no safety
data on this in general, so this is almost beyond
(20:30):
ask your doctor. This is more of a we really
don't know, so it's not safe kind of situation. But
knowing that those are available after those phases for recovery
probably can be very encouraging, which brings me to the
next topic. I'm excited to learn from you on because
I follow you on this and occasionally have done and
try to do things based on your recommendation, even just
on social media. But that is the topic of testing,
(20:51):
and like you mentioned, there's now so much more testing
widely available than we've ever had before. I feel like
data and our own information about our own bodies is
more accessible than we've ever seen it throughout history. It
also feels like there can be a little bit of
overwhelmed because there are so many things available. It's like
the decision fatigue of what to actually prioritize and focus on,
especially if there's budget concerns, with which most of us
(21:13):
have in some capacity. So I would love to hear
what kind of testing you consider most important, kind of
your own eighty twenty and what you personally do to
keep an eye on as this is all now available
so much more easily.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Look, the bottom line is the most important testing is
always going to be your blood work. It's just you know,
people sometimes get caught up and all the fancy stuff
and they forget the basics, and you can. If you're
working with a good practitioner, the basics will always give
them great information. But even the basics are not necessarily enough.
(21:47):
So things like a full thyroid panel, which I'm sure
you've had guests talk about before, Like just getting a TSH.
It's never been good enough and there's no excuse for
it now, right, So we want our TSH. We want
our free T three three T four RT three. I mean,
if your free T three three, T four and TSH
are great, and you're having no symptoms and you're in
(22:08):
great shape, you may not need to go as deep
as RT three. But anytime there's an issue or a
suspicion of an issue with a thyroid, we want to
make sure that we're digging deeper than the surface. Next,
the next one that I think is really important to
dig deep on is lipid panels.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
So this is cholesterol.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Just getting HDLDL on its own is generally not enough, right.
We want to get into the weeds with the LDL
with the blood lippets.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
And that's become really easy. Like I have a kit
in my bag.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Of course I can't get it in Canada, so I
had to order the kit from the States. I have
to wait till I'm in the States go for my
blood draws in the States. I think the company is
called Empower. So what happens is yourn Conventional doctors often
are very resistant to going deeper on these labs for
I'm not going to go into any of the reasons.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I don't know why people but for whatever reason.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
So the cool thing is you can go to this
I think the company's called them Power. They have an
in depth LIPT panel where you're going to get a
report on not just your hdl LDL, but it's going
to go deep into the VLDL like very low density lipoproteins.
It's going to talk to you about is your LDL
fluffy or is it little? Is it oxidized which is
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the damaging kind. It's ninety nine bucks. I think this
kit it's really I mean, it's really affordable for many
people and it's really important information. Now, staying on this theme,
and this has been a massive discussion recently in my
membership community, is getting a test called CIMT and then
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it's the.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Cardio intima medial something.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
It's basically the carotid artery and they image the carotid
arteries in the neck, and what they're looking for is
PLAQ and the amound. The percentage of plaque you have
happening in your carotid arteries is very indicative of your
potential risk for stroke and heart disease. Okay, if you
can get that imaging done, you now get real insight.
(24:10):
Is your diet really working for you? Do you have
a risk of cardiovascular disease? Is it possible that you
might have to go into more advanced situation strategies to
make sure that that plaqu's not happening. Like this discussion
in the biohacking world of cholesterol is good, there's no
bad cholesterol. We need cholesterol is very It lacks nuance.
(24:34):
We do need cholesterol. Obviously, there's cholesterol in every cell
membrane of your body. It's a critical component. But it's
oversimplifying to just send people out blindly thinking that they
can eat all the saturated fat in the world because
somebody's decided it's good. When you need to see, what
you need to see is how is my body responding
to this diet or this saturated fat, and that you know,
(24:57):
also having a decent genetic tests done, you only need
to get it done once, but it's going to give
you insight into certain risk factors. Like for example, I
just recorded a podcast and released. I don't know if
you've met her, doctor Christy Sutton. She talks about iron
overload in the system, which many people don't talk about.
(25:18):
Really flies under the radar, is wildly bad for you
and can cause no end to trouble, and doctors just
aren't paying attention to this. Well, if you have the
markers for iron overload, then at least you know to
keep an eye on these things. Right, If you have
an APO little A or if you're an apoe four
(25:40):
to four, which you're at a higher risk for certain
for developing certain conditions, well if you have insight into that,
then you know where you need to lead your attention.
If I'm personally, like genetically at a much higher risk
of developing type two diabetes, which I could have told
you because everybody in my family develops type two ibetes
as they age, and so I know that I have
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to be really watchful of my blood sugar, my insulin levels,
like all of those things. And I can't afford to
even play with certain types of diets that other people can.
So genetic testing is really important. And then I think
the next one would be microbiome testing, getting insight into microbiome.
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I mean, everybody's running around throwing probiotics at themselves. You know.
They hear a podcast on how important acromancia is and
they go out and they buy the acromancia probiotic and
they load up on females. So here's the good news
bad news on acromancia. If you have no acromancia, you
have a much higher risk of being overweight. But if
you have too much acromancia, that acromancia can drive gut
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inflammation because what acromancia does is it feeds on the mucus,
on the on the lining of the gut. In good amounts,
that's a good thing. When you have too much, they're
just going to go to town and you're going to
get into trouble. So and that's just one example, right,
So there's lots of different we have. There's imaging for now,
(27:06):
there's imaging for cancer. There's a blood test that says
that they can and I haven't really dug into this one,
but this is a blood test that is saying that
they can detect cancer at stage zero, so before there's
even a tumor there. There's tests now, the THEEOM test.
I don't know if you've come across this. This is
(27:26):
a metabolo mix test, and so they're not only looking
at your genetics, but they're looking at twelve different areas
of the metabolum, which is essentially how your body is
expressing all everything that's going on in there. So they
can give you insight into your into your into your
micro nutrient status. So if you're if we have deficiencies
(27:47):
in little things that we don't even realize that can
eventually drive problems down the road, but if we correct
those deficiencies, then all of a sudden, the body has
what it needs to do what it needs to do.
I could keep going, but I feel like I'm just talking.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
That was such a great list, and to your point,
like these are now so much more affordable. I remember
when I was first trying to figure out my own
thyroid stuff with hashimotos years ago, and I think it
was almost impossible to even find a doctor who would
order the test even though I wanted to pay for them.
And then it was a couple thousand dollars I think
to get a full thyroid panel, and like you said,
now you can get these even at like walk in labs,
often for under one hundred dollars in some cases. So
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I'm so glad that there's now better consumer access to
things like this. I think your list was so helpful.
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done a lot of research on. I'm forgetting the name
of it, but I know there's a very popular documentary
right now from someone who is spending an insane amount
of money per year to not age, and I have
not seen it yet, but from what I've heard of it,
I feel like I personally would maybe take a different
(31:17):
approach in some areas, especially things like sunlight. But I
would actually love your take because I think I respect
your voice in this area much more than his or
others that I've heard from on what do you consider
actually the most important things when it comes to longevity,
and not just not aging and how we look on
our face, but actually like what's happening sellularly and supporting
our body on a biological level.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Yeah, I think the person you're talking about or thinking
about is Brian Johnson. I have also not watched the document,
which you know, I guess maybe someday we should make
a date and watch it together. But you know, I
agree with you on I mean, Brian Johnson's a guy
who's taken this on as a project.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Right. Not only does he not only does he want
to I mean he.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Never wants to die obviously, or maybe he wants to
die in a really, really really long time, but he's
very focused on reversing his biological age, which obviously is
something we want to do, all of us to some degree.
We don't want to be living in a state of
accelerated aging at the very least, we want to be
aging at an appropriate rate. But it is entirely possible
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that we can slow down aging at a foundational level.
And you know, there's all kinds of crazy things that
he's doing, right. He does this plasma exchange with his
son where he takes his son's plasma and has it
infused into his own veins. I'm not even clear on
all of the different things he's doing, but he's definitely
I think he takes what is it like one hundred
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and twenty two hundred supplements a day, and he's monitoring
every single thing. Everything in his body is being monitored
and measured every minute of every hour of every day.
And like you, I do feel like I mean, this
is a man's living a science experiment.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
He's not.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
It doesn't sound I don't know him. It doesn't sound
like he's really living life to the fullest. And I
think that what's getting left off the table here is
the human piece of aging. Well, so obviously we want
to control for inflammation. We want to reduce systemic inflammation
as much as possible, because inflammating is fundamentally one of
(33:23):
the key factors in that's driving accelerated aging. We want to,
of course, have a low glycemic diet. Now, whatever that
looks like for you, whether it's a keto diet or
a low carb diet, or for some people because of
their physiology and the way their body works, they can
still eat a relatively high carb diet. It's still going
to be whole food. But there's many different ways to
(33:46):
skin this cat Like, I refuse to be told that
there's only.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
One way to do this.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
It just hasn't It hasn't played out, you know, avoiding
foods that are incredibly inflammatory, moving your body and exercising,
building strength, building your VO two max. All of these
things are critically important. But community connection, seeing the sun,
(34:12):
leveraging natural light. Do we need to be laying out
in the sun and tanning all day long?
Speaker 1 (34:16):
One hundred percent?
Speaker 3 (34:17):
No, But do we need our skin to connect with
the sun on a daily basis if it's possible, Like
I mean, I live in a client where it's not.
Do we need to put our feet on the ground,
bare foot so that we can ground? One hundred percent.
These are all things that are going to feed our
bodies at a cellular and an energetic level. And then
(34:37):
the other piece of it, which I haven't even mentioned,
is this whole aspect of community, quality of life, living
with joy, living with gratitude.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
These are all really, really, these are wildly.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Important factors that if we don't keep those in play,
if we live this highly stressed life at all times
and are disconnected, we're going to age badly. Like you know,
if you look at the blue zones, whatever you think
about the blue zones, and whatever we think about how
people figured out what these people we're eating, which may
(35:11):
or may not have been fully accurate, the thing that
is constant through these blue zones is this concept of
community and connection, physical movement, exposure, being outside, being in nature.
These are the common threads that unite every blue zone
to each other.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
I'm so glad you brought that up. My friend doctor
Lauren says often that humans are nutrients, and I love
that because I think it really like highlights, how that
is often intangible and it's not something we could lab
test for, but it really is built into our biology.
And I think so many issues in modern the modern
world could be boiled down to what I call nature
deficit disorder and connection deficit disorder. Actually think like those
(35:51):
are maybe two of the most impactful things to focus on,
and thankfully, in most cases those things are free. Like
I know, you and I live in a world where
there's always the next like multi thousand dollars fancy device
or super expensive supplement, But at the end of the day,
going outside is free. Nature is free. Prioritizing time with
people we love.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
That's free. Getting good sleep.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Hopefully there's things we can buy to help with that,
but getting sleep is free. Like the things that really
matter don't have to be expensive or complicated, and I
feel like they can often get overlooked because the shiny
new thing is sometimes more exciting. But I know you
talk about this as well, and I see your post
on social too. It's like those things can be great,
and the foundational things without the foundational things that are
not going to be as impactful as they could. So
(36:32):
if you're going to spend all this money on the fancy,
expensive things, it's really helpful to get those foundational things
lined up first. You get the biggest bang for the
buck when you spend money on those things.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
I mean, look, there's no doubt that having a good
PMF matt, having a red light panel like having those
having acts. Even molecular hydrogen is another one. Like I
started out way back talking about molecular hydrogen to anyone
who sits still long enough to listen to me, and
I've circled back to it now. You know, like there
are certain things that are being made available to us
(37:06):
that can be real game changers. And I think part
of that is because of the world we live in, right,
the world we live in is becoming more difficult for
our physiology to adapt to. And so that's where the
tech and the supplements and all these advanced things come in,
because our bodies do need help coping with what we've
with what we're being faced with. The other thing is
(37:28):
I think that our expectations about how we age have changed.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Right, if you go back a.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Number of generations, people expected to feel and look old
and not move the same maybe in their sixties and
their seventies and their eighties, like there was this this
kind of how am I going to put it, This
acceptance of an aging process that we now no longer
accept And so this is in large part why hormone
(37:55):
therapy has become so discuss you know, it's such a
big deal. Like I would say that if we want
to age well, balancing, keeping our hormones balanced and optimizing
them at a reasonable degree is going to become really important,
both for mostly for women, because men have an easier
time hanging keeping their hormone levels high if they're playing
(38:18):
their cards right, right, Because you know, a guy who's
out drinking and partying, doesn't exercise, doesn't sleep, super stressed,
his testosterone levels are going to tank. And that'll happen
even in their thirties, even younger. Right, we're seeing that now.
But for a woman, once you get past menopause, the
factory shuts down, like the ovaries are done. They pass
(38:39):
the baton over to the adrenal glands, who already have
a lot to do, and they're like, all right, we'll
do what we can. But you know, so, as a result,
as our estrogen levels fall off a cliff, our bones
start to degrade, our brain doesn't work as well, obviously,
our skin, all of these different things start to go
with it.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
So keeping those.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
Horns hormones balanced, and I'm not saying let's take us
back to when we were twenty, but keeping the hormones
balanced is a critical piece of aging.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Well for a woman.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
I will say, though, that's what's really exciting in the
regenerative space that you asked about, is there's a lot
more people now really tackling this problem, well, this problem,
this fact of ovarian aging. So as our ovaries age,
so do we. And I interviewed a guy a couple
of years ago now or maybe a year ago. His
(39:31):
name is Zach Barcaris, and he's doing really interesting work
where they're doing stem cell injections into women's ovaries and
they're delaying menopauds. They're delaying and they're showing that these
women their rate of aging slows down dramatically. And there
are other people working on this exact strategy now in
(39:55):
his case, if it's the right woman and she's in
the right state of health and it's what you want,
they may even be able to keep.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Her fertile longer.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Now that brings up a whole list of other ethical
issues and whatever what have you, which I'm not even
going to touch. But the fact is that if we
can slow down the age, it turns out that if
we can slow down the aging process and the ovaries,
we can slow down our own aging process.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
That is fascinating and I have not heard that, but
I think I love that you brought that up as well.
It does seem like there's less tolerance for the natural
process of aging, and that like we also do have
a lot more things we can do to support the
body and kind of slow that down. But it's like
finding that balance of not like disallowing the natural and
wonderful parts of aging. And I read a quote once.
It was something along the lines of, like, we only
(40:43):
get this one life, Like I don't want to age gracefully.
I want to age with mischief, audacity, and a great
story to tell. And I kind of take that approach
of like, I don't want to like speed it up.
I've in no rush to age quickly. However, I don't
want to trade life experience and a hell of a
story for you know, not having frown lines or whatever
it may be people are so worried about. I think
to your point, I think you're right kind of the
best outcomes are when we get those foundational things, and
(41:06):
because of the number of negative inputs we're exposed to
in the modern world, we can strategically use all these
new tools to our advantage to help our body have
the best whether it be detox or recovery or whatever
it is that we're working with. I'd also love your
take briefly on things like minerals and micro nutrients, because
those are two categories I've been kind of deeply delving
into the last couple of years, and even kind of
(41:28):
reframed my nutritional approach much more away from macros or
calories and into micronutrient density, realizing that it seems like
the body, if it's not getting enough micronutrients, will always
keep craving food to attempt to get those nutrients, even
if it's had enough calories. And then for me personally,
it seems like dialing in my minerals has been a
game changer for my energy levels and how I feel.
(41:49):
So I love your take on those and what you
personally do. Kind of from a supplement strategy perspective, I
know that's different for everybody, but it seems like you
have a lot of great tools at your disposal there.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Yeah, that's such a really big it's such a huge
topic and I think it's not talked about nearly enough.
So at a foundational level, I use a product called
BEM minerals, and I use them because what they're doing
is they these are soil derived micro trace minerals that
are being delivered to the body. And people might say, well,
(42:20):
shouldn't you be able to get that from food? Yes,
we should be able to get it from food, But
the truth of the matter is that our soils are
incredibly depleted and unless you have access to all constant
access to and I'm not just talking organic here, I'm
talking about biodynamically farmed food where the farmer is actually
nourishing the soil so that the plant can uptake the
(42:43):
micronutrients in the minerals that you need for your body
that will then be synthesized by the plant. So at
a foundational level, I'm gonna use I use.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
Something that's what I use. I use Beam.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
I also have a product, really neat product, I think
they're from Australia called boy Buoy.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Have you come up across these. It's a really interesting
little it's a liquid. It's a little bottle.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
You can have it in your purse and you just
squirt a little bit into your water, your drink, and
super easy to take when you're on the go. I
think that getting minerals assessed is a good idea, especially
if you've got like weird symptoms that are kind of
very subtle. There's nothing that your doctor can do for you,
(43:25):
but something's off and you just don't know why. So
I'm a fan of hair tissue mineral analysis. Your blood
work is going to have some information about that as well.
But HTMA is also really fascinating because they're going to
look at the mineral balance in your body, and very
often the ratios between different minerals can be indicative of
(43:46):
things like adrenal fatigue or a thyroid imbalance. Like what
we have to remember. And I think it's so your
approach is so great because it's the micronutrients and the minerals,
the vitamins, the minerals, the little trace elements that nobody
thinks about. Those are the cofactors for all of the
(44:07):
different processes in our body to happen. So there's this
thing called, for example, the CREB cycle, and this is
how your body makes ATP, which is the energy currency
of the cell. Well, for each of those steps in
the Creb cycle to take place, you need micronutrients. You
might need one step might need vitamin B six, it
might need copper, it might need zinc, it might need magnesium.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
And if we.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
Become massively deficient or imbalanced in any of those things,
it's going to impair our body's ability to make that.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
Energy.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
It's going to impair your body's ability to make ADP
if your cells don't have enough ATP energy your body's really.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
It will hack whatever it can.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
It'll do what it can to keep the lights on
and keep you going and keep you moving, but you
will accumulate deficits over time. Those eventually will show up
as either symptoms of fatigue or brain FuG or I
don't know anything, and or the eventual development of certain
types of diseases. And into those things, those little micronutrients,
(45:14):
the vitamins, the minerals, those are the things that we
don't think about that we have to keep an eye
on so that we can just keep that foundational function
happening in the body at a cellar level. Because if
we can keep that happy, so much unfold because we
now are your body's able to apply its wisdom that
(45:36):
we can't even begin to match.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
I love that. Yeah, definitely same team on that. What
the micro nutrients of the minerals, I think those can
be tremendously powerful lovers and ones they don't get enough
talk and so I love that we got to delve
it into those. And I know you have so many
resources available online and I will definitely link to those
in the show notes for anyone listening who wants to
keep learning from you or follow along with your work.
Where can they find you and where can they jump in?
(45:59):
Where would you suggest they start?
Speaker 3 (46:01):
Thanks Katie, So best place to start probably is just
the part I mean. I'm looking forward to hosting you
on my podcast. So I've got a podcast Longevity with
Natalie Nidam on Instagram at Natalie Nidam. That'll give you
a little bit of insight into a lot of the
things that we talked about today. I have a newsletter
that people can sign up for on natnim dot com
(46:21):
and when you sign up for my newsletter, you get.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
An eight part series email.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
Where I really talk about a lot of these basics
and foundations and I often get really cool messages back
from people who are just really loving that information. Just
out of again, it's a foundational it's foundational information, but
we go deep. We go deep on sleep and stress
and diet, all the things, and then beyond that, you know.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
For connecting in person.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
I do host a membership community and you can find
information about that natinidem dot com.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Amazing. All of those links will be in the show
notes for any of you guys listening on the go
and nott. This is so fun. I always love learning
from you. I'm excited to get to switch roles and
be on your podcast soon, but for today, thank you
so much for your time and for all the in
depth research you do and for everything that you shared.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
This was awesome. Thank you so much, Katie.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
It's always a pleasure, and like you said, I can't
wait to have you on the other side of the mic.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
And thank you as always for listening and sharing your
most valuable resources, your time, your energy, and your attention
with us today. We're both so grateful that you did
and I hope that you will join me again on
the next episode of the Wellness Mama podcast. If you're
enjoying these interviews, would you please take two minutes to
leave a rating or review on iTunes for me. Doing
(47:41):
this helps more people to find the podcast, which means
even more moms and families can benefit from the information.
I really appreciate your time and thanks as always for listening.
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