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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, and welcome to the Wannessama podcast. I'm Katie from
wamaswama dot com and I am back today with my
real life friend Christy who. If you missed our first episode,
I'll link to it in the show notes. I learned
a lot about dry needling, which I've also gotten to
experience with her, and in this episode, we go deep
on the beliefs that burn us out and her four
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hidden beliefs that keep us exhausted. And I love this.
Some of this really really resonated for me. She and
I share a journey through hashimotos as well as she
had some other autoimmune things that she learned as well,
and all of the book like the layers of healing
that go into this physical, mental, emotional, and even spiritual,
and we get to go pretty deep in this one.
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I enjoyed this episode and I know you will as well,
So let's join Christy.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Christy, welcome back.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Thank you for being here again.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Oh I'm so happy to be here. This is so great, Katie,
Thanks for thanks for inviting me. You guys missed it.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
I will link to our first episode, which is how
I first connected with Christy, learning all about dry needling
and getting to experience it. That will be in the
show notes. In this one, I'm excited to go a
little bit deeper and even more vulnerable, because I have
a feeling we have at least some kind of high
level philosophical overlap in our journeys, and specifically, I want
to talk to you about the beliefs that burn us
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out and the kind of hidden things keeping us exhausted,
especially as women. And it sounds like you and I
have been on somewhat similar journeys in as far as
physical health challenges that led to like kind of deeper
levels of healing and all that came with that. So,
if you're willing, I know it's a little bit vulnerable
of a story, but you have such a powerful healing journey.
If you don't mind, can you share kind of your
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journey through breast implant illness and fibroids and autoimmune issues
and how this seemingly was a catalyst for incredible work
that you now do.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah, thanks gosh. Where do I start? Well? I want
to start by saying that the last time I saw
you was at the Biohacking conference here in Austin, Texas.
Before that, we would I think I remember you from
the Paleo Effects conference, and I was trying to remember,
like why I was so interested to go to those conferences.
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And sometimes I'm like not gonna look at the scream
because I'm really trying to remember my story. Let's see.
So the main reason I remember that I was into
the Paleo effects movement is before that, Let's see, I
have just been in this like journey of feeling free
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within myself and like just really getting into health and
well with and then and then you know, healing myself
in natural ways. I grew up an athlete. I was
in track and field gymnastics out a cheerleader. I just
love performing track and field with my favorite thing. I
tore my ACL. That led me to become a physical therapist.
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I also had like crazy amount of atrophy. So I
like always wonder like why did I have the most
atrophy from like my other because I had other friends
that had ACL injuries, and I don't understand why I
healed the slowest out of my friends. And so later
it seemed that I had the autoimmune challenges and that's
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why I was in a constant state of information. It's
one thing I discovered I'll tell you more about this
story later. But I was working as a physical therapist
in Las Vegas and I decided to do bodybuilding competition
and get into bodybuilding because I was just not feeling
well and I just really wanted to, like, I don't know,
take my athleticism to the next level. So I trained
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for a bodybuilding competition in two thousand eight. Wait your
top seven two thouven and seven, yeah, or two thousand
and eight. I'm not sure. There was a bodybuilder trainer
that worked at a physical therapy clinic I worked at.
I asked her if she could train for three months,
train me for three months, train me. This was the
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first time I ever did a diet. I had like
never done a diet. I'm from South Texas. I grew
up on Chaco's and Chidaba and pizza because you know,
my parents didn't have time to cook sometimes and fast food,
and I just thought that like having a subway sandwich
was like healthier than what I was eating, and oh
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my gosh, Like when I became a bodybuilder, I was like,
oh my gosh, I have to like cook my own
fish and make pancakes out of oat meal and only
eat eggs and like but I had such a doing that,
like clear diet actually made me feel better, and I
got super fretted, and I won my first first competition
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justining doing that training schedule for three months, which was amazing.
And then of course after you finish a competition, you
just like all right, time to eat all the pizza,
beer and cookies and all that stuff. And then I
get thick again. So then I'd train for another competition
and and I'd win, lose, whatever, whatever, and then I'd
get sick again. And so I was in this vicious
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cycle of like fraining really hard and also like maintaining
my physical therapy job, and now within a relationship, and
like then I had a pet, and then you know,
like doing family duties and I would just I just
burnt out. But I also discovered that I had leaky
gut and my adrenals were just out. And at that
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time I also was diagnosed with hashimoto And yeah, we
said the leaky gut and what else? I found out
I had celiac, So I had all these inflammatory things.
I also got in allergy tests and I was allergic
to eighty of the hundred of the one hundred foods
on that panel. So I was just like, what the
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heck am I going to eat? So basically, I, I
don't know, it seemed like it was more like a
Candida diet because it was just like taking out all carved,
all gluten cheese, blah blah blah, and I got. I
did really well. Obviously I did. I was still doing
a little bit of fitness modeling gigs, but just training
for did not. I stopped training for bodybuilding things around
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twenty twelve. And yeah, I also got breast implants around
two thousand and nine, but I didn't put two and
two together. I was just like, oh, it's my gut,
it's my you know, I'm tired this and that, which
is true. I really had to like rewire my nervous system.
I had to you know, rest. I didn't know how
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to rest. I was in this like performative lifestyle, which
I thought winning bodybuilding contests and being pretty and shredded
would like make me a better person. That I really
thought that, But you know, in that in my twenties
and thirties, that's what we kind of saw as AC fests.
But I actually was like so tired that I couldn't
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go to the gym I could maybe go to a
pilates class. I didn't yoga, and I got into chigong
and chigong was one of the most restorative things for me.
I also got into breath work. There's a chigong breathwork
technique that we did and it was transformative. I could
talk more about spirituality because I feel like that was
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what really opened up my spirituality, my connection with God.
It was just like instead of like praying at church,
I could like feel God within me. And that's something
else I'll talk about. But I was also I learned
I worked with a nutritionist that was certified by Paul
Check and she was a holistic lifestyle coach and that
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got me thinking, like, Okay, I really want to learn
about holistic lifestyle coaching and defeating Under Pulpeck, I got
certified as a holistic lifestyle coach Level one, level two,
met those type of friends. Then just been doing deep
work like the physical, the hormonal, the nutritional, and even
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a spiritual work since and it helped me grow. And
I've done so much growth, so much work. It's all
about the nervous system and the gut and sleep. But
even then I was just still dealing with health issues,
like two years ago and I had a practitioner do
some kinesiology muscle tests where she kind of like muscle
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tests various points in my body, and she was like, yeah,
I think your breasts and plants are really like not
allowing you to heal. And so I decided to take
out my implants. And I feel like I've been talking
how long?
Speaker 1 (08:41):
That is more of your story than I had heard before.
In quite the incredible journey. We did have some like
definite overlap because I also used to have hashimotos and
that was a big catalyst for me learning about so
many things health and wellness or even learning that to
eventually finally figure out what was going on then eventually.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
To finally heal as well. And also the track and
field connection. My kids do track and field and I've
gotten into it in the now. It's crazy to say
out loud Master's Division as an adult that I realized
you had done track and field when you were younger
as well, and you brought in the breaston plants. Yeah,
oh good. I was going to say, your friends that
stayed at the way that we met, how your friend
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we got your friends to come stay at my place,
didn't they do pole vault? Yeah? I did pole vault
as when I tore my ACL. I wasn't like sprinting
pool out yet, so I decided to enter women's or
start the women's pole vault in South Texas and it
was a display event, so I was like one of
the first pole vaulters in South Texes. Its interesting, that's cool.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I did not know that.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
So, yeah, another connection.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
All my kids have full vaulted, and a lot of
them still do. But I love that you kind of
walked us through the layers of this because I feel
like this is a very common thing of like we
at first think it's a physical thing, and so we
do all the physical things to address it, and then
as we get a little bit more bandwidth from just
supporting our body a little bit more, then we get
to like these deeper layers and truly we're all on
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a journey that is life longer, perhaps longer than that.
But I love that you kind of touched on all
those different points. And you've talked about how like burnout
isn't necessarily about doing too much, but it's also about
our belief system and what we our mindset, our belief
around that. Can you walk us through a little bit
more of kind of what's going on with burnout and
women specifically, because I hear this so much and like
women especially who are burned out, overwhelmed, exhausted.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
All the time. Yeah, well there are, like I would
say that there's like four beliefs that actually can cause burnout.
And this whole like no pain, no gain just really
annoys me. Like, I don't know, I feel like success
is like measured by how far you're going you sleep
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when you're dead, and like all that kind of like mentality,
and we think that you know, I don't know, like
going to the gym and like lifting heavy is going
to help us develop like leaner physiques and stuff. But
if our nervous system is an overwhelm and we're just
so sympathetic, we're actually breaking down tissue instead of building tissue.
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And so one thing that I believe is that we
could do energy building exercises that can just improve them.
Blood flow to certain areas of the body, like you know,
the lower body in the pelvis, or the mid body
the shoulders, and then you know our upper body, And
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what was I gonna say? Yeah, So there's ways to
like bring blood flow to the muscle instead of just
like build bigger muscles, and we all think like, oh,
just exercising our abs and the French side of these
physique looking nice muscles is like good for us, but
we actually need to be training like the postera muscles
as well, past of the no paying, no game being
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in anabolic versus catabolic a thing. And then there's this
whole like be a good girl and like just do
what you're just do what you're told. You're a female,
like you can't get mad and you can't really express yourself,
and yeah, like girls have to have a certain reputation.
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I mean there's you know, there's not everyone is like this.
But I grew up Catholic. I grew up in a
very cultural like deep culture or part of Texas where
you know, just like who are your parents, Oh you're
doing this, you're doing that right wrong, And like I
feel like there's a lot of pressure for us to
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like be good girls and not have boundary and being
this like people pleasing, and I don't know, I feel
like sometimes we're not told to speak up or like
honor ourselves just because we're trying to follow the culture
and like follow what they're doing the right things, and
we have to stay quiet and submissive. But I just
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really I've been working out, working on honoring myself, honoring
my voice, speaking the truth, and just like staying alone
in line with my powers. And then I would say
number three is like women thinks that eating low calorie
diet and like just eating for a sexy body is
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like better than eating nutritious food that stabilizes our blood sugar.
A lot of us are in burnout because because our
blood sugar is dysregulated, we're just like eating, you know,
eating pretzels because yeah, like it's low calorie, but if
you like eat pretzels by themselves, your blood sugar is
just gonna bike and then drop. And yeah, we're just
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like not really eating to keep our blood sugar regulated.
And then I mean the big thing, the main thing
that is has held me back is just like this
happiness comes from success kind of mantred thing, and for me,
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it's been like this having this like inner freedom and
feeling like I'm stuck in my I don't know if
I'm feeling stuck and like in a cage all the
time because I'm like working for someone else and like
being trying to follow rules all the time. That to
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me is like burnout or has led to burnout because
I'm just always trying to like fit in a mold
that I don't really fit in, So that makes.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Sense, that doesn't make sense in it feels very resonant
for me, and I would guess to a lot of women,
especially who are listening, and especially as you talked about,
I've been through some similar things with that kind of
good girl conditioning and all of the shoods that get
put on us from such a young age. And I'll
eventually share more about the personal details of this, but
the last three months have been by far the hardest
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of my life, and I feel like some of that
has been going into those stories and into that work
and into kind of like the darkness and unraveling and
fully dissolving, and sometimes that work is excruciating. I also
really resonated with what you said about that, the kind
of I feel like these false stories we all have
about that. I'll be happy when stories like and it's
always tied to I'll be happy when I'm thin, I'll
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be happy when success, I'll be happy with this amount
of money or whatever it is. And that was something
I realized in my healing journey as well, was that
ironically I learned to choose to be happy with wherever
my body was, even if I wasn't healed or a
size two or any of these things. And then ironically
those things started shifting without the same effort and stress
as it was when that was what I was focused on.
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And so I love that you tied kind of all
of that. And I'm curious, are there any beliefs that
you've like totally let go of or new beliefs that
you live by now that have come from that journey.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah. Well, something else that I was going to tell
you is that asked me before, like what was a
book that I really liked? And I talked about The
Four Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz. It was all about
you know, it was like a personal development type book
that we can talk about later. But another another book,
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well he has several books. Or another wellness leader that
I that I really love and follow is Joe Dispenza.
And when I learned about like how we can make
our own frequencies, I was just like blown away and
that really like brought me to me hope because we
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can totally create our own little pharmacy of chemical by
using our mind. And again, and so you were saying like, yeah,
what are the limiting beliefs? And it was a lot
of like am I too much? Or am I not enough?
And it was too much not enough, and so again
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like that's where the people pleasing thing came up. So
and then there was another thing that I would also
I got into with the perfectionism, and so I don't
really think of, oh, this is so perfect. I just
think about, hey, I'm going to show up in my
excellent How can I show up in my excellence? And
another thing that I kind of broke through was, you know,
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it's not what I do, it's how I be, which
is so important. And sometimes I go through this competing
compare with other women in my industry or other wellness
entrepreneurs that are like, you know, this much more successful,
and I turn it around with like, you know, there's
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like so many steps that you could take to like
become more successful, but still like your ways of being
are also going to possible or probably going to get
you to the success that you want to be at
because this like competing compare doesn't get us anywhere. It's
actually the gratitude and the frequency and the chemistry that
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that gratitude frequency does for us is to me, the
most I could call it successful. I could call it
just like a goal to be because like how far
do you have to go to find and feel gratitude?
You could just be gratite, grateful for little things like
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having a room from your head and you know, just
like your health right now. So yeah, I would say
gratitude is like one of the things that I strive for,
and the things that I've let go are comparing and
the judgment. I love that.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
I think that's such a powerful reframe and like letting
go of kind of those stories and redefining success is
more of like joy. And my friend or even reminded
me yesterday of like that concept of like what do I.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Want to feel like?
Speaker 1 (18:53):
What do I like? How do I move toward that
and realizing it's like it might be something like ease
or I think gratitude's a phenomen one because that's some
movie we can choose and work on in like little moments.
And even the neurobiology of that is so fascinatingly done studies.
It's funny that we needed studies for this, but how
even finding little moments of gratitude literally change our brain.
And I know Joe's Sinson talks about that as well,
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and all link to some of his books and the
show notes funn I feel like that is such a
powerful reframe and one that requires a little bit of practice.
Like it didn't for me, I still in a journey.
It did not happen overnight, but it's been very powerful
as you go. And I know we're running out of
time and that you have a patience, so I want
to respect that. But lastly, before we wrap up briefly,
what role if any, do you feel like things like
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somatic healing and inner child work play in the kind
of the deeper levels of this healing once we've addressed
kind of the basic physiologic needs.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yeah, I feel like that is still important. I was
a all check practitioner who you believed in the four doctors,
which was doctor diet, doctor movement, doctor quiet, and doctor happy.
And you know, there's so many things that we could
do to get those parts of our wellness in alignment,
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but the happiness is the one that we're going to
work on for a long long time, and there is
a lot of semantic practices. I think Brett breathwork is amazing.
But I actually did some workshops called Journeys or Wisdom
by John McMullen, and what he did or what we did,
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is we revisited you know, childhood instances or events where
we felt abandoned by a parent or sad about this,
or you know, they call it trauma, and I wouldn't
like call it trauma, but with an event where you
know it really likes shape your beliefs in the future.
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And there are so many practitioners around the world where
you can go revisit these these events and go back
to it with understanding, compassion and yeah, and like reframe,
reframe the event and like let it go and heal it.
There's ways to cut cord. There's so many ways to
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do it. I did do some plant medicine. I don't
recommend doing many of these ceremonies, but it was very
impactful for me. It's impactful when you do it in
an intentional way with a very like professional practitioner. But
those those things really helped. And I continue to surround
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myself with other people that are doing the same work.
So that we could just be constant mirrors for each
other and show up with vulnerability and openness and perspective
and invitation to just like revisit you know, these like
limiting beliefs. So most of my friends you know, just
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have done this work as well, and we can just
look at each other with neutrality and curiosity in seeing
what deeper reasoning we have for how we're feeling at
the moment. I love that well.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I will put some links for people who want to
kind of go down those rabbit holes of learning about
somatic work. In her child work, I've also gotten to
experience those and found them really profoundly helpful as well.
And I hope we get to have more conversations in
the future. And I know that you have such a
passion for helping people and that you have a patient
so I don't want to take any more of your
time for this episode, but Christy, it is an absolute
joy to talk to you. Thank you so much for
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being here, for sharing so vulnerably and for everything today.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Thank you so much, Jaane, this was so fun, and
I yes, if anybody wants to reach out, I just
like love having these conversations help and wellness is a
multi factorial feel. And yeah, if we don't take care
of all the parts of our wellness, we are going
to pay for it later. Yeah. So anyway, goodness, see
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you and I hope we have another conversation soon.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Amazing what I will put your links as well. If
anybody in the area, I highly recommend go see Christy
tried digondoling. It was amazing. More conversations to come, but
for today, thank you Christy, and thanks to all of
you for listening, and I hope you will join me
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